Why does Notre Dame CONTINUOUSLY get to play by their ‘OWN RULES?!’ 👀 | The Matt Barrie Show
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- Matt Barrie and Dan Mullen are on The Matt Barrie Show to try to explain why Notre Dame gets to play with their “own rules” when it comes to being independent.
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In the words of Lou Holtz: “it’s not that complicated, we’re Notre Dame, and you ain’t”
ND takes less money in TV revenue in order to remain independent. They value college football tradition. Whereas other football powerhouses value money above all else. It's not an ND problem. It's a broader college football problem and folks want to punish ND for what they say they actually love about the sport. The traditions.
That's all fine and good. But Notre Dame should not get to have a representative who has an equal vote alongside the commissioners of entire conferences. No other independent team gets that. No other team period gets that. They are just one team. Even the Alabamas, Ohio States, Texas's, and Southern Cals of the world have to share their rep with a bunch of other schools.
I don't hate the way ND does things or want to "punish" them. I want them to be equal to everyone else.
@DanielChannel89 ok. Great. Let's make it even. All those other programs have to bring their academic standards wayyyyy up to match notre dame. Then it would be fair right?
Ok dumbasses Notre Dame gets 60 million for tv rights - a lot more than other schools.
Because - they are the only team with a truly national audience !!!
Geez !!!! 😮😮😮😮
They value money Big East then ACC to prey on week conferences that would give them a sweetheart deal money wise on their other sports for them agreeing to play a linted number of fball games against their conference.
@@joshuafinn6038 Lol..the last time ND won anything was 1988 & their star QB Tony Rice was an academic non qualifier, didn't meet the NCAA standards to play Freshmen year at any school. Lou Holtz in the 80's/90's recruited a bunch of kids that were academic non qualifiers....Bettis, Zoric, etc... Essentially some of their best players of that era. Former players like Golic, Ismail, Brown, etc.. admit their application would be immediately filed in the garbage bin as a normal applicant. They currently still recruit prop 48 kids & had a massive cheating scandal with the Fball team. They also recruit morons like Manti Teo & his fake girlfriend that fake died..lol. The notion ND doesn't take morons if they are good at fball is folklore. The standard is will you fail out, if you won't will take you. C's and D's are okay.
You all are looking at the world wrong. The answer really is more teams should be independent, not the other way around.
Answer this, if the people that made the decisions for Miami and Penn State could go back in time and undo it? Of course they would! They were waaaaay better off as independants.
College football was at its peak when there were MORE Independents, not the other way around.
This Sir, is exactly correct.
Also, nobody seems to mention, in this discussion, how easy it was to see one of these power conferences completely fold over a cpl days.
What is the use in joining one of these conferences if everyone can just "independently" jump ship any time?
Notre Dame will just keep sending players either to the NFL or Wall Street.
Independence is a good thing...
One word: INDEPENDENCE
ND is the ONLY football factory that makes its players go to class and graduate. People still respect tradition and doing things the right away.
Lol..the last time ND won anything was 1988 & their star QB Tony Rice was an academic non qualifier, didn't meet the NCAA standards to play Freshmen year at any school. Lou Holtz in the 80's/90's recruited a bunch of kids that were academic non qualifiers....Bettis, Zorich, etc... Essentially some of their best players of that era. Former players like Golic, Ismail, Brown, etc.. admit their application would be immediately filed in the garbage bin as a normal applicant. They currently still recruit prop 48 kids & had a massive cheating scandal with the Fball team. They also recruit morons like Manti Teo & his fake girlfriend that fake died..lol. The notion ND doesn't take morons if they are good at fball is folklore. The standard is will you fail out, if you won't will take you. C's and D's are okay.
Isn’t this the same team who got in trouble for tutors doing players homework? Yeah doing things the “right” way.
@mayafreeman2197 no program is perfect when you deal with human beings. Which high standard program do you follow?
@mayafreeman2197 yes. It's the same team that has one issue like that for every 100 at the big factories.
Yes, and ND self reported the incident when they could have covered it up, like they do at the other schools...
Notre Dame's standard for doing it the right way is widely recognized, and your comment is laughable and revealing about your knowledge of college football...
@@mayafreeman2197yes the same team the suspended their starting qb for cheating as well
The only reason people are mad at ND is because of jealousy. ND is not a national brand, it’s international. They are the only team that can successfully be independent and relevant on an international scale. They sellout games in Ireland, not just the US. The more other teams hate and cry, the more it proves ND’s relevance. Bunch a Snow Flakes, Go Irish!!
Any big college program can sell out a game in Europe tbh. They love the novelty of football there.
@@openthinker1251not true at all
@@openthinker1251if they scheduled a georgia alabama game in eiurope i guarantee the stadium is gonna be just as filled as a wnba stadium
You answered your own question. Notre dame is big enough that they can be their own brand. Conferences need Notre Dame Notre Dame doesn’t need a conference
Pretty much all of the comments capture many valid reasons WHY Notre Dame gets to function as it wishes (I refuse to embrace the canard that they supposedly "play by their own rules" because they don't -- they play the same rules and restrictions as everyone else ... they simply do it as an independent). But here are others in a brief nutshell: ND is VERY good for college football and is actually the MODEL by which any decent program should aspire. They insist their student-athletes are GENUINE students first and foremost. They actually CARE that their players EARN their degree so that they can be productive in society and earn a living when/if "pro" sports fails to work out for any of many different reasons (e.g., injury, a numbers crunch, etc.) They already play a national schedule. They are LEADERS (recall that it was because of ND's INDEPENDENCE that they were the first team of stature and relevance who said "we intend to play football" during COVID despite most every other conference attempting to shut football down; it was ND's leadership and "pull" that SAVED College Football for the 2020 season because once ND showed that leadership, the conferences caved and allowed its teams to play a delayed schedule.
Bravo!
ND has always been a national brand and plays a national schedule of Power 5 teams and has their own TV deal. They play by the rules and their students actually go to class and take real tests!
Notre Dame already has a great deal with NBC, and the only real reason for them joining a conference would be for a crazy amount of money. Plus, their schedule is already a consistently good one!
Isn't this the last year for the deal?
IF Notre Dame was to join a conference it would be the ACC brings how many of their sports already are
Notre Dame administrators have yet to fall to this idiotic idea that having more TV money is the only way to go. Nebraska, Miami, soon to be Florida State are getting drug through the mud so much so that just winning 10 games people jump around saying they're back. The school presidents don't care how football programs or any sports programs for that matter are effected by any of this. Just so long as they got more money to spend. Kudos to Notre Dame for succumbing to this yet. I'm won't be surprised if one day they will but that's why they don't have to dance to the beat of anyone else's drum.
Why do you care if ND joins a conference?!?! They always play one of the toughest schedules as is... They dont play FBS teams like alabama and all the others. It sounds like you just want a conference championship requitement to force ND to join a conference.
ND is one of only 6 programs to be to 2 college football playoffs.
Chip Kelly has it right. Major College Football powers should all be independent. The Conferences are the ones ruining college football.
There needs to be one top decision maker in charge of College Football. Not Conference Commissioners looking out for themselves. Get more bigger matchups and structure the schedule like the NFL. You play four annual rivals every year and the rest of your schedule rotates amongst the other power teams.
I like that idea
College football fans don't want to see the sport be "like the NFL".
@@TheJasonJackson84that is what it will be like tho. Eventually Clemson or Florida st will leave crumbling the acc and the same will happen to big 12. It will end up being two major conferences in the end
@ponagesports5447 there is no guarantee that it has to happen. There is no good reason why that should happen. But only because a few people think that is a better way when in actuality it isn't. All of this is happening for corporate greed. College sports are different than professional sports.
The reason this is really happening is because the corporations know the ball is slowing on the NFL. The XFL, USFL and the other spring football league have been experimentations to figure out what changes can be implemented into the NFL to make it more interesting. Football at the college level is a better onfield product. But a few people feel there are too many teams to keep up with and that it is too regionally based. That's not how the majority of college football fans see things.
CFB fans don't want a corporate takeover like the NFL has gone through. And trust and believe that when the overwhelming majority of CFB bows to the dollar and implement a 2 major league system the soul is going to leave the game.
Notre Dame never needs to be in conference. Not even a fan of them but face the facts they’re always crazy good every year and have plenty of money. They would literally only go to a different conference I feel if they caught tunnel vision on just wanting to build up national championships and nothing else
They're over-hyped every year. Their last national championship was in 1988. ND was crushed every time they went to the playoffs.
ND supposed greatness in football is based on them being reallly food when Army was considered a football power. They haven't won a Championship since 1988. Haven't won a major bowl game in 20+ years, They have been absolutely embarrassed when they were in BCS games or the CFP games. They are the most over rated team every year. ND knows if they joined a conf like B10 or SEC, they would be an also ran if they had to play a gauntlet of games like those conferences.
@@thundergato84 ND's supposed greatness is based on them being a power when Army was also considered a football power.
They ain’t crazy good 😂😂
@@thundergato84ND played Clemson and Bama in the playoff closer than the team they played in the championship did. ND has done as much as Michigan so I guess every team that isn’t Ohio st, Clemson, lsu, Georgia, and Bama is overrated then
Because they are Notre Dame and you are not.
People watch and they have a following like no other. That helps them.
Because it is a national brand... Because they were the first to go national with their schedule .
Because they have a brand that allows them to do it and they are willing to accept the negative consequences from being on their own because they are making bank which is more important than winning to them
They win plenty. They are not going to sell whom they are just to win national title. Competing on national level, with serious academic standards, no jock dorms, And they have more sports then 99% of all the other schools do. Beautiful campus in a dump city.Hard winters.Kelly knew his hands are tied in South Bend so he took easy route out and split.Wait,they did win a title in Lacrosse.A smart kids sport. They have a long history of bouncing kids that break rules,jocks included.A true class program. No I am not a grad, I went to a specialized school,a Maritime College. We competed our way too.
Completely false. Notre Dame would very definitely make more money in a conference.
Because they're their own conference. And if other teams in the P5 were offered the same deal, they would be allowed to take it. They're literally playing by the same rules as everyone else.
Bc .... We're Notre Dame.
Only a few teams have had success in the CFP.
And Notre Dame is not one of them.
@@ld4974 Mich st, Oklahoma, Mich, list goes on.. we all can't be bama fans
@@ld4974😂
@@ld4974I guess everyone who isn’t LSU, Bama, Georgia, or Ohio st isn’t relevant than. It’s not like ND has beaten Clemson and Michigan 2/3 of the last times we played them
@@ponagesports5447 Yes, for 2023-2024 Only LSU, Bama, Georgia, Ohio St and Michigan are relevant.
Sounds like all these teams should be independent and they are pissed cause nd didn’t cave like them. I’m think nd is going to get some big time money from their new nbc still especially now their new ad is to brass from there.
Because they have a national following due to nostalgia, history, Catholics watching, and large wealthy alumni unlike any other school.!
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Why does Notre Dame CONTINUOUSLY get to play by their ‘OWN RULES? Because they CAN!!!! Notre Dame has not changed it's stance, ever, why should they do it now?
As espn circles the toilet...
Using The great Notre Dame name for clicks.
It’s not like it’s helping or hurting so who cares
Wait continuously? Own rules? Like what?
64 teams, terrible.
Being INDEPENDENT,
THEE JSU IS THEE STANDARD ❤️ THEEILOVE
ND isn’t the one leaving a conference for more money. Maybe instead of bashing ND other programs should be more ND like.
Notre has a lot of clout partly becouse of their large fan base and alumni network.
Matt you’re not a Nd fan. Stop it bro. Every chance you get, you take subtle shots.
Don’t panic
So Bama and Georgia and OSU don’t? Gothcha
Hate Notre dame, but of course they won’t mention those other 3 because those are espn and finebums babies
ESPN/FOX/CBS could simply refuse to air away games for ND per conference Grant of Media Rights deals ... but miss out on that sweet, sweet $$$.
Why would they do that though? Both the networks and the conferences make plenty of $$ off of Notre Dame, as they schedule/play teams from all conferences. 🤷🏽♂️
Think ACC to tell Notre Dame join fully or hit the street. And rest of Power 4 Conference say join a conference or be left out of CFP every year..
The ONLY reason that the ACC is still a conference is their affiliation with ND. There is no conference football team that can manipulate the rest of the conference to do things like grab a bigger piece of the pie with threats of leaving, etc.and ND is one of the reasons for that. If the big 3 or 4 ACC football teams, or even one of them, were to leave, the team(s) that leaves would lose that periodic game with the national brand team, the recruiting gains that comes with periodically playing ND. Do not kid yourself, ND is a secret weapon for all ACC teams, and they know it. Heck, you don’t have that much complaining from them about ND independence any more, even Dabo has tuned it down.
They don’t wanna play Michigan anymore cause we own them 🤣🤣
I guess you forgot about 31-0
ND has beat them 2/3 of the last times they played and Michigan once refused to play us for 33 years
@@ponagesports5447 nice lie
@@countryman625 and that time Notre dame lost to Brady hoke
@@YooperHatesOhioState it's no a lie it our coach was a hated Catholics so much he wouldn't play them. He was actually a pretty terrible guy
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They are literally holding the ACC together with their BS .. It would implode if they’d join the other 7 teams and end that stupid league.
ND is only as powerful as the teams willing to play them. If the BIG 10 cut them off they have to join the ACC they can’t have a legitimate schedule with 5 ACC schools and the military academies.
BIG 10 hardly plays ND anymore. I think Ohio State was the only one on this and last year's schedule. The rest of Big 10 is garbage with the exception of Michigan when it cheats.
Cry about it 😭 12 million a year plus another 6 million if they reach the CFP under the new finalized update for 2026-2032. 😆😂🤣😂🤣 😭😭😭😭
Its because we all allow it. Just like how we allowed the ncaa to do what they want
It’s an excuse to pick their schedule carefully instead of being obligated to difficult conference play and when they win & they sneak into the playoffs where they always fail because they can’t compete against other powerhouses.
Yeah you are right that's why according to the experts they play 3 top 10 teams
They might beat an SEC team eventually.
They beat an SEC team last year
@@chicksdigthestutterthat was depleted both their dbs were out for the draft the had their 1 and 3rd leading rusher out...and they were down the second third fourth leading recievers. That sec team had no reserves and also before hall time they lost the only te on the roster....game started changing big then. factual Evedince not anecdotal evidence. Peace
No way,S.E.C. has almost zero academic standards,Vandy is the exception. And S.E.C. schools do not come close to offering the number of sports the Irish do.Besides N.D. is a member of a conference right now. The BIG 10, Ice Hockey. Have won Conference Titles. Till the Too BIG near 20 Conference turned into whores for that money and let lesser academic schools in U.S.C.. and U.C.L.A. and Maryland and Nebraska, Irish was considering joining. In 2024 they join BIG 10 in lacrosse.M and W..
They've beaten plenty of SEC teams
@@jameycockrell5481so no matter what if ND beat them then they’d have an excuse. Oh please. We beat a ranked SEC team that beat Tennessee. ND doesn’t play SEC teams that much because they’re too afraid of the cold
Even tho we are catholics.. We go by our own rules like convicts.. We dont give a dam about anybody else we are gonna do us!!
Who really cares about Notre Dame?
ND is one of the few cfb teams that has a WORLDWIDE fanbase
apparently you do. You watched this video and made a comment about Notre Dame.
🤔🤔
SEC & BIG 10 should not play the frightening Irish
Well Notre dame doesn’t wanna play Michigan hence why they ended our yearly series
@@YooperHatesOhioStateMichigan once refused to play nd for 33 years because and hurt their feelings
@@ponagesports5447 again, nice lie
Historic media hype. Its such an arrogant program. Join a conference or no CFP!
Guess Ohio st shouldn’t have made it last year cuz they only played 12 games
They've used their history and "independence" to generate excitement and interest for the last 20 years. Honestly they have had a couple decent teams but they continue to be one of the most BORING programs to watch and follow. It took a long time for Michigan to get with the times but they're trending up and back to national relevance. What they had done previously was no longer working. Go Blue
It’s easy for someone who doesn’t like ND to say they are boring to watch. They are very fun to watch
@@ponagesports5447 Dude, I love Notre Dame. It's good for college football when they are doing well. They need to find a way to generate excitement and buzz around that program though. It's been flat.
Yeah because UM is just an exciting brand of football give me a break.
@@MrJessejames317 Lol. You still mad at Denard Robinson?!?
The BIG ten now has every rival ND play besides Stanford ND could join the BIG if it values tradition lmao 🤣 ND you look silly right now SEC and BIG ten should leave you out of the conference championship playoffs and not schedule you lmao 🤣 they could do that tomorrow if they wanted too
God i HATE Notre Dame
Why because they stand for tradition?
😮 hates a strong word drippy
At what point does independence start to look like obstinance and arrogance?
Uh ... never.
Because: capitalism. :)
Anyone can go independent.