@Jezus nadchodzi I politely say, you're wrong. Your assumption is that the Kingdom of God is all of heaven. It is not. The Kingdom of God is the new Jerusalem that will descend out of heaven to earth. Jesus being the light inside the city where there is no shadow is what Jesus spoke of when he said Matthew 8:12 But the unfaithful heirs of that kingdom will be thrown into the darkness outside. . You cannot lose your eternal life because you are in Jesus and The Father's hands. But if you become a child of God, you can lose the heavenly inheritance through things you practice. . Galatians 5:19-21 International Standard Version (ISV) 19 Now the actions of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, promiscuity, 20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, rivalry, jealously, outbursts of anger, quarrels, conflicts, factions, 21 envy, murder, drunkenness, wild partying, and things like that. I am telling you now, as I have told you in the past, that people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
@@Quake1983 Sorry bro this is majorly inaccurate and a mishandling of scripture, outer darkness is Hell and Christians still go to Hell all of the time, we can lose salvation. We must Flee from sin and kill it, the Bible says sin litterally wages war against our souls.
1 John 2:1 “ My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And IF anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
@@dlove9034 absolutely. it shouldn't be the norm but If we do, we are dependant and stand on Christ's righteousness, not our own. People might try to make an excuse to sin, but this shows their heart is not right with God. Luke 5:32 " I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."- Jesus calls us to repent-to turn away from our sin
There’s a reason the Bible doesn’t give us black and white answers like, “Here’s the line of how much you can sin before you’re no longer considered being a Christian” or “How far can I go before it’s sinful?” The Bible says FLEE from it, not get as close as you can to the fire without getting burned. We (and close godly brothers and sisters in Christ) are to keep ourselves accountable for our own actions. We are to test ourselves to see if we are truly in the Faith. It is so easy to deceive ourselves into professing Christ or living a “Christian life” while not at all being a Christian. And Lord knows we love to toe those lines the moment they are drawn for us. God knows our wicked hearts and selfish desires.
Indeed , He knows we are but Dust . Temptations are a fantastic tool to show us the Lusts that are within us . The Father knows already, but he wants us to see them and hand them over to Him to deal with . We must let God build the house and not strive in our own strength to overcome these Issues. After all , it's God who has begun a good work in us and it's God who will finish it .
@@jordandthornburg The flesh is very irritating to contend we need to let God know we are sorry for our sins daily and repent it's a constant struggle with the flesh but Jesus is mighty to save and his will is that no one would parish not one person but we should strive to be Holy with the help of the Holy Spirit as it's impossible without the Holy Spirit
Hey man! Have you gotten help for overcoming that sin? If not, let's talk about and pray over it:) if, of course, you'd like to. Nonetheless, may God bless you and help you overcome whatever it is
@@nrai4210 Pray for me! I know Jesus save and haves the keys to Heaven and Hell and is LITERALLY THE ONLY WAY! Stuck with lust. Online mainly. I pray but help me. My name is Daniel Morales. Thanks!
Remember to follow and listen to the Word instead of feelings as feelings are deceptive, I think I've spent a lot of precious minutes asking for forgiveness just because I didn't feel what I wanted to feel
The real question is. "Is someone who still live in sin truly saved ?". Not that when we become Christian, we become perfect. But the effort we put in trying, knowing that we can't even be perfect is what show we are saved.
Saved people can live in sin, they just wouldn’t enjoy life. The marks of a true Christian isn’t whether or not they live in sin but is do they hate it and love God? The natural unsaved person doesn’t care, the Christian who lives in sin does.
i been struggling alot with sin and been feeling like god does not love me any more because of it and I cried out for a sign that I was doing something right. then this came up in my recommended, now granted I watch Christian videos so that would explain why but I watched a bit of this then clicked off and something just kept telling me to come back to watch it and I 100% believe it was god telling me that I need to listen to this
i think "struggling with vs accommodating sin" is the important distinction...i know people who fully embrace a sinful lifestyle while saying how much they "love Jesus"- it's deeply troubling to see both of these things coming out of the same person...I also find it very interesting that we used to be so concerned about being labeled a "hypocrite" as believers, but now we're more concerned about being called "un-loving"...
Amen. John 10:27 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
Thank you my brethren for your services and fellowship on topics we have questions for! Keep on pressing for the LORD in Jesus' name, have a blessed one
Paul did not say that he was a carnal Christian. He said, "Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. Romans 7:20. In Romans 7: 21-25, Paul describes the spiritual warfare that goes on in the lives of all believers. He concludes that "God delivers" him through "Jesus Christ". Which is another way of saying that in the war with the "flesh" he is being victorious over sin in his flesh. So in truth, there is no such thing as a "carnal Christian"! I believe many have been confused or deceived into thinking that since there are those who sin most of the time, and still claim to be Christians, that they are "carnal Christians". 1John 3:4-9 makes it clear that those who sin most of the time or practice lives of sin are not "carnal Christians" but no Christian AT ALL.
Agreed. Good points man, and there’s a very good case to be made that Paul is referring to one under conviction of the law preconversion. It’s actually very unlikely he is referring to a present believers life for several contextual reasons
Every day is a new struggle. If our hearts are sincere and like king David, are always after God's heart, then what else can we do or be. In the end God knows our hearts and we are judged accordingly. Don't assume you are saved, but live as if you are not.
Don't know if that is a sufficient enough answer for this tough question. It still leaves a lot of room for the hyper grace believers. The word tells us to search the scriptures. How many of us search the scriptures and meditate on them in order to know our God better and in turn become more Christlike. Very easy to skim over them and miss this opportunity for God's spirit to work in us. Yes, we will always struggle with sin but if you don't allow yourself to be convicted you deceive yourself. You can't rely just on preachers. A lot of them today don't preach to convict like preachers of old did. Their pay packets don't allow that. Just my thought on this topic.
Couldn't agree more. When I was in sin and searching for truth and guidance through preachers and teachers. If I came across teachings such as this I would be remained longer in sin because such teaching is too blurred on the subject.
Great points made by the gentleman. Who is he? Jesus said, 'If you love Me keep My comnands' John 14:15 We can fool one another, we can fool ourselves but we cannot fool God. He sees through all of our motivations. 🙏
Allen Parr is deceived and he will other lead you further astray. You cannot live in sin and still be saved. There is only one truth from God and the rest is all lies that are being fabricated by the many who are lost and deceived. The vast majority of believers are so deceived in their beliefs that they foolishly believe that scripture is relating that they can never stop sinning. They clearly have no idea that God commanded us to live a holy and righteous life which can only be achieved by no longer sinning. Since we are all born in sin and in ignorance of God’s word and truth this is the reason why Jesus came into this world. Jesus came to forgive us of the sins that we have already committed and He came to teach us how to stop sinning through His Holy Spirit. Jesus certainly did not come to forgive our past, present and future sins as many of the deceived desire to believe and there are no such scriptures that even back up that nonsense. This spoken untruth is having people believe that they can continue to sin and then simply repent and God will just forgive them over and over. This twisted reasoning would mean that you can steal and then repent, you can lie and then repent, you can murder and simply repent. You can keep committing whatever sin you desire and just repent afterwards and you will always be forgiven. Jesus came to call sinners to repentance which meant for them to no longer sin. So to try and justify why they still sin many deceived believers will twist the meaning of scriptures like 1 John 1:8-1O or Romans 3:10, 3:23 and 7. For some foolish reason these lost souls desire to believe that Paul and the apostles continued to sin and they will often twist the Romans 7 scripture to try and back up their lies. These deceived believers fail to realize that we have all been sinners at one time in our lives and Paul was simply relating how he was a sinner until he was freed by knowing Christ. They clearly overlook how Paul related that he had died to sin and he was no longer a slave to sin in Romans 6. Many also love to twist what the I John 1:8-10 is relating in order to justify their sin. This scripture is simply relating that everyone is born a sinner since we are all born in sin and ignorance of truth. It is saying that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. It is also stating that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere is this scripture ever relating that a believer will always sin as those who follow the devil and his lies desire to believe. The Romans 3:10 is relating that none of us are righteous since we are all born in sin and this is why we needed a savior to teach us how to stop sinning. Romans 3:23 is actually stating the same thing since we are all born in sin and we all fall short of the glory of God. Many believers who are lost and deceived try to justify their sin by claiming that the apostles were sinners themselves and they will often use the scripture where Peter denied Jesus as their justification. When they do this nonsense they are clearly revealing their complete ignorance of scripture and they prove how they are being guided by a demon spirit and not the Holy Spirit. So did the apostles all sin at some time in their lives? They most definitely did since everyone is born in sin and in ignorance of truth. Now did Peter sin when he denied Christ? He most certainly did but many overlook how this occurred before Peter was sanctified in truth. Next, did Peter sin when Paul corrected him in Galatians 2? No he did not since Peter was following the Old Covenant laws that he was raised under and Paul was simply revealing how their old custom traditions should no longer apply under God’s New Covenant. Many believers are so lost and deceived that they are not comprehending what scripture is relating and they do not understand that the apostles were originally sinful disciples who allowed Jesus to sanctify their heart in God’s truth. This meant that the apostles were sinners who willingly followed the teachings of Jesus and they allowed Jesus to teach them how to overcome their sins. This is why God then used them as His messengers and He gave them His power to heal. Read John 17:6-19 where Jesus prayed for His disciples sanctification to prove what I relate. Another thing that the many deceived believers clearly overlook is how scripture relates that God does not listen to the prayers of sinners. God’s word never lies so this alone proves that the apostles could never have performed healing miracles if they were still sinners themselves. Jesus could work healing miracles because He was sinless and so God then answered His prayers. The apostles then reached the place where they overcame their sins as well and so this is why God then answered their healing prayers. “Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him.” John 9:31 NKJV “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV Scripture relates that anyone who is born of God does not sin and because they can no longer sin this is why they can no longer get sick since sickness only comes from sin and the devil. So if you can still sin and you can still get sick then that certainly proves that you are not BORN AGAIN. This is why many believers who live in sin and sickness will try and justify their afflictions by twisting the meaning of various scripture like claiming that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. Many lost and ignorant souls desire to believe that Paul was always sick or that Paul was someone who had bad eyesight so allow me to reveal just how deceived these believers truly are since I will explain what Paul was relating in the 2 Corinthians 12:7-10 scripture. First, what does a thorn in the flesh do? Well it causes pain and suffering. So just as Jesus suffered in the wilderness by being tempted by Satan, Jesus then allowed a messenger of Satan to tempt Paul in order to make him stronger in the Holy Spirit. “And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.” II Corinthians 12:7-10 NKJV If Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him then what could possibly make anyone believe that he was someone who had sickness in his own life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that Paul was someone who could then get sick himself? “Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” I John 3:4-9 NKJV So scripture clearly states that whoever sins does not know God and whoever sins is of the devil. Scripture also clearly relates that whoever abides in God and is born of God cannot sin and does not sin. So anyone who sins or anyone who believes that they can never stop sinning is simply a deceived believer who cannot comprehend what scripture is relating since they are blinded to truth. They are being influenced by the lies of a demon spirit and they certainly are not being guided by the Holy Spirit. There is no sin and sickness with God and there is no sin and sickness for the true children of God. So if you are someone who can still get sick then that alone proves that you have not overcome sin. You are deceived in your beliefs and you certainly do not understand the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind.
1 John 3:6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. (ESV) 1 John 3:9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 1 John 5:18 We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him. Pretty clear
@Sonship edification Process I know this causes a lot of fights. I’m not trying to do that, but with sincerity how do John’s scripture contradict Paul’s? I just really want to know in case I’m ever asked. I really believe Paul’s gospel. Thanks.
@Sonship edification Process There's only one Church, One Lord, one faith, one baptism. There isn't one faith for the Jew, and a different faith for the Gentile. John taught the same gospel as Paul. John wrote to the same church as Paul. John was definitely not under the law and he preached to Jew and Gentile. He was also an elder of the church in Ephesus, which was a Gentile city in Asia Minor(Turkey). Everything that John taught applies to Gentile believers as well as Jewish believers. Remember, in Christ there is neither Jew or Gentile. "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."-Galatians 3:27-28.
Go back a Chapter to 1 John 2:1 "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And IF anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" A Christian will not live and dwell in sin, but if we do sin, We have an Advocate with the Father on our behalf. We stand on the Righteousness of Jesus Christ, not of our own righteousness. We don't abuse the Grace of Christ by habitually practicing unrepentant sin. If so, you may have not truly been born again. But If a Christian sins, Jesius is there on our behalf. The Spirit given you will know you have sinned and will be repentant of if. Thank God for the righteousness of Jesus Christ. I could not stand before him on my own righteousness. I throw myself at the foot of the cross and am fully dependant on His finished work.
I’ve been feeling defeated lately falling back into my old sin even though I accepted Christ. I feel like a failure I probably blocked all my blessings. What a battle it is. I use to be stronger a couple years back I don’t know what happened to me.
What happened is that you lost sight and focus, the narrow path began to seem burdensome and you stumbled. I speak this as one who has experienced this very same thing myself. You feel weary and that feeling of defeat is taking a toll driving you to continue falling back and returning to "Egypt." So I tell you, do not feel defeated, do not succumb to it, stand up seek the Lord and be cleansed, don't hide your sins. Forsake them, flee from them then hold fast to God and consider him daily in prayer and thoughts that you wither not away and become unfruitful. God will prune every branch that bears forth good fruit, build up your faith and add to your faith all the things Peter mentions... (2 Peter 1:5-7)
@Desire Of All Nations MacArthur is a heretic who claims 2 false doctrines: 1. That one can take the Mark of the Beast and still enter heaven. 2. That there are allowances for divorce and that remarriage after said divorce to another while the original Covenant spouse is alive is not Adultery. These are False, heretical beliefs. Pray for his Repentance and that his followers turn to Christ and away from his false teaching
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Those are interesting, but John is actually correct about if you could lose salvation, you would. It's a gift, and Romans 11:29 says, "His gifts are irrevocable." That means taken back, and that's the only way for a believer to lose salvation, is if God took it back, just like he gave it. But he doesn't. None of us are strong enough to hold onto it by ourselves. If you could lose salvation, it would become based on works to keep from losing it. It wouldn't be by his grace (Romans 11:6).
@@all_mine1233 Maybe "lose" is indeed the wrong terminology. I think walk away from is a better phrase. James 5:19-20 clearly states a Believer can wander from the Faith and if a brother brings him back he saves a soul from death. That's not physical death, but SPIRITUAL death.
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. [1 John 1:8-11]
Jesus said: "go and sin no more" (John 8:11) "Sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you" (John 13:15) “See, you have been made well. Stop sinning, or something worse may happen to you.” (John 5:14)
So what is the answer that this channel is proposing? I’m still not clear. Allen seems to be saying that if you make a plan to sin, then no, you aren’t saved. However, if you sin, but didn’t plan to or maybe, just couldn’t seem to help yourself, then you are. Then Alisa wraps up by seemingly contradicting everything Allen said by basically saying that we can’t sin our way out of salvation, to which he says, Amen?? I do like how Allen mentions that he always wants to see what the scriptures have to say, but where does scripture make a distinction between planned and unplanned sin?
Hi Alisa and Pastor Parr, thank you both for such great content. I have learnt so much through your teachings and apologetic discussions. I have even signed up to Pastor Parr's online Bible studies. God bless you both. I have a little criticism concerning Pastor Parr's approach around this subject. I am not sure if Pastor Parr is aware of how he come across when handling the subject matter of believers practising sin in general. Your question was 'Can a Christian live in sin and go to heaven? It seem like a Yes or No answer to me, then Pastor Parr would buildup his answer base on scriptures. But, I have listened to a few of his videos on similar topic & I always walk away thinking he's tender on believers practising sin.. I am certainly not suggesting that he should start betting people up, because for many believers that are living in sin and struggling. They need to know that the the Lord loves them regardless of their sins plus they also need to see that love being demonstrated through brother's & sister's in Christ Jesus. The Lord delivered me from my cage of sin about a year ago, but I must say that if I was watching some of Pastor Parr's videos on sin whilst I was still living in sin, I would have remained longer in sin. I say this because there is no urgency to stop sining in his teachings.. That's not what I get as the listener any ways!! I was struggling in the sin but I was still doing it and it felt like I was trapped. So, Alisa & Pastor Parr, if I had dead mins after the sins or during the sin, or the rapture occurred at that point, would I still enter heaven?.. God knows I love him, but I was still practising the sin even though my soul was ripped up inside, but I was still practicing sin. The Bible is pretty black and white on believers practising sin Revelation 22:15, 1Cor 6:9 & Gal 5:19-21all are describing those who will not enter heaven. We know that some believers still practice these things all the whilst struggling. I see Pastor Parr as a confident & assertive teacher/ preacher but on this subject, there is a lot of apprehension and blur. As a listener, there is no sense of urgency in his teaching when it comes to believer struggling yet practising sin. What I got from tonight is, as long as we give our lives to Christ, no matter what sin we are commiting, as long as there is a spiritual internal struggle & we want to stop. If we died in that state or if the Lord should returns at that point; we will still enter heaven into heaven with that sin stain. Plus, isn't true repentance by definition to admit the sin before God, ask forgiveness and turn away?.. We all sin, so this isn't about any perfect sinless human being. I am looking for clarity as his answers in my opinion seen vague and without urgency especially on such a crucial subject. I stumbled into a preacher online that preached with such urgency on letting go of sin.. That word gave me to courage and urgent to really repent so that the grace of God would deliver me. God bless you. 💜🙏🏾
Openly practice. Such as (but not limited to) being divorced and remarried while your original Covenant spouse is still alive (Adultery), being in a homosexual relationship/lifestyle and defending it, stealing regularly (from work, others, getting Netflix free from another's account, etc. Any outright sinful lifestyle that contradicts scripture and you've been warned to stop.
“Living in sin” you know you’re sinning but you don’t care what God thinks-unrepentant. And if you do it’s not enough for you to stop you just keep on without asking Christ for help continually. “Not living in Sin” is the opposite you’re repentant surrendered to Christ’s will you trust Christ and call on Him when you’re tempted and when you’re not tempted. You live to please God above all-anything. It’s a process called sanctification we act on our faith in Christ and His power to overcome no matter how long it takes. 2 Corinthians 5:7 “For we walk by faith, not by sight”
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 it is not a sin to be remarried while your original partner is alive, if the original partner committed unrepentant adultery on you and /or if they abused you. There are grounds in scripture for divorce.
Following Jesus a understanding Christianty is pretty simple , living a righteous Holy life as he did is most difficult . But if we could do such , he need not come so we cant he did and its up to all of us to accept his gift or reject him . ❤️❤️🙏🙏
This is why purgatory, there will come a time when you die in friendship to God, but still caught in sin, nothing unclean can enter Heaven. We must be purged of our sin and the consequences of it not the Eternal consequences the temporal consequences, after whatever time it takes we enter Heaven. CS Lewis wrote a book called the great divide. It paints a picture of how that might look.
The biggest question now is: will willful, habitual sin that also causes a repentant heart and anguish even though it's done daily (as it is a bad addiction) be something that prevents a true Christian from being taken in the Rapture? Are there qualifiers for the Rapture, or is it simply by Grace, to those who believe in Jesus's work, as is salvation? Or are there rewards in Heaven that will be lost to a carnal Christian for their habitual sin? Doesn't being born again (in the Spirit) automatically separate our flesh's evil deeds from our spirit which is said to already be Holy and Righteous because of the Blood of Christ? If our flesh cannot earn our place in Heaven, how can it take our place away FROM Heaven?
You all are great Allen Alisa.There is none that are righteous no not one. (Save Jesus Christ) people beat each other up as hypocrites and that is opposite of what the bible tells us to do. Further more if we trust in our own understanding that rabble will be brought to rubble.
Christianity is not just about avoiding sin. But i believe it is also about growing and bearing the fruits of the holy spirit. When the holy spirit comes into you it will be like the smallest seed but would grow to be the tallest tree. The fact that youre still alive means God wills that you would keep bearing much fruit (love joy peace forgiveness patience kindness gentleness etc). For me instead of focusing on sin, lets analyze ourselves if we are bearing much fruit with the holy spirit. Jesus said those who do not bear fruit is cut off like branches and thrown into the fire... seems like focusing on sin wont be the culprit of losing your salvation. And if youre really serious about christianity... even though youre not perfect and you may still be doing sin... i doubt you wont bear fruit... or atleast people would notice a continous improvement as they relate to you specially your closest relationships. John 1 4:18 there is no fear in love but perfect love drives out fear. Because fear involves the expectation of divine punishment, so the one who is afraid is not perfected in love.
Here's how I see it, we are naturally sinners so it's easier and seems more desirable for us to sin. But when you get saved and become born again and know Jesus and have a relationship with him, you'll hate the things he hates. Will temptations come? Of course. Jesus was tempted too but Jesus also fled when the devil tried to tempt and in the same way we should too. When you feel that you're getting tempted or you have a weakness and makes you fall into temptation, we are to pray and flee from it. What I found when I was a baby Christian, is that I linger on the sinful things my flesh wants to do, therefore gave in. But as I further in my journey with God, I discovered that if I question that specific temptation it's easier for me to flee from it. Questions like " Does me giving in to his sin worth more than my love for God?". Sorry if some things don't make sense, just look past the grammatical errors.
@@RainDropDrop22 As believers we are declared righteous by God by faith. Romans 5:1 says, "Therefore since we have been justified (aka made righteous) by faith, we have peace with God through our lord Jesus Christ." We're still going to slip up and make mistakes, but the bible never once calls you a sinner, but rather a saint. You are being perfected every day in Christ and becoming stronger in him. As Children of God, it's important that we understand this. Labeling yourself a sinner is a lie from the enemy. He loves nothing more than to trap us into thinking we are hopeless and will always struggle with sin. God sees you as a believer without blemish or fault, so you should see yourself that way too.
@@all_mine1233 OH, I see. Thanks for elaborating, I didn't know that myself. I'm a new Christian, so I haven't read the whole Bible yet ( still on Exodus) so thanks for clarifying.
Great discussion. There's an interesting dichotomy that exist within scripture between the willful sinner and the willing Christian. The willful sinner can be summarized by the passage in 2timothy 3:2, where people ''will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient t _o their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God-and then there is the willing Christian who can be summarized in Romans 7, which highlights Paul's own struggle, and also his true and only hope in this matter: For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!. We can see a deep awareness of sin and an even deeper despising of its power, but with that knowledge we can see a deep awareness of the one who conquers it continuously on our behalf and an even deeper love for Christ because of His richness of mercy towards us when we do fall short--His kindness will lead the true Christian to repentance. Allan touched on this point of struggling very well. Its an issue of humility vs pride. “God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble.” 1Peter 5::5-6
We are no longer in the flesh if we are in the spirit. We can still walk after the flesh but no believer can lose his salvation once he’s been purchased.
If you're truly Protestant about this, then there's only one issue - what is salvation? According to Paul in Romans 4, it's God justifying the ungodly. According to Jesus, it was the man who wouldn't even enter the temple, but asked God to be merciful to him that went home justified. Why do we so often seek to work our way around the clear message of the gospel as spelled out in Romans 3, and what possible certainty can there be for anyone when we do? This is the truth by which Christianity stands or falls.
Yes, salvation means God justifying the ungodly. It is deliverance from sin and it's consequences based on faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross, a preservation from harm, ruin, or loss, the process of crossing from death to life (spiritually), as said in John 5:24. "Truly truly I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me will not be judged but has crossed from death to life." As a saved individual, your crossing from "death to life" begins the moment you become saved, as Jesus lives inside you and gives you his eternal life. You are being preserved on Earth right now until you get to Heaven.
@@all_mine1233 It is indeed a deliverance from sin, death and judgement, but we live in the tension between the now and the not yet (See Paul in Romans 7). Objectively, we have BEEN buried and raised with Christ in baptism (Romans 6), but the true manifestation of this is yet to be seen in the coming renewal (Romans 8). In this, the Apostle is eager to show Chist has become 'all in all' to us and for us - that's the Gospel.
saul was a liar. God doe not justify the wicked. he was very clear on this. read Psalms and Proverbs . he also never said it is ok for you to not keep the 10
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 The ones not justified are those who will not repent and believe - "He that is often reproved continues to harden his heart shall be cut off and that without remedy" (Proverbs 29:1). It is the man who KNOWS he cannot be justified because of his own sin but asks the Lord for mercy that God WILL justify, as Jesus declares in Matthew 18:13. Paul shows that unless you are able to keep the Law perfectly, it will only condemn you - that is why we can only be justified by faith in God's grace, given to us in the redeeming death of His Son.
When David murdered Urriah, God dealt with him as a believer. His salvation was never on the line. God promised to punish David and He did punish the latter quite severely. David's own household would turn against each other. This resulted in a civil war between claimants to the throne and all from the same family. David also lost his son through Bathsheba. God made the punishment hurt, but salvation was a gift he would never take from David.
Interesting exchange. Two observations: First sin is not bad behavior and is not doing wrong or not doing right. Sin is wrong believing. Jesus referenced this in John 16:9. Bad behavior can be a symptom of sin but it is not sin. And second, there seems to be a focus on "sinful" behavior or lifestyle. Determining whether something is right or wrong, good or evil. This is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which always brings death. This would be sin consciousness and a person walking in the Spirit is no longer sin conscious. Once we realize that we are clean, we are righteous and we are pure, we begin to live like we we actually are in Christ. Whatever we focus our attention on, we empower and tend to become what we focus on. Think on heavenly things.
sin is not bad behavior? what the hell is wrong with you? murder, adultery, lying, stealing, idolatry, breaking Sabbath, is not doing wrong? Have you ever read psalms or Proverbs? sin is the breaking of god's commandments. the lawless and the wicked go to hell. get out of any religion or church you are in. eccl 12.13
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 you should do a word study on sin to see what it actually means. All the things you listed are symptoms of sin. Sin is simply missing the mark of who we are in Christ and who we were created to be. What you described could be described as iniquity. I find it interesting that people get all riled up about things that they really don't understand and rather than having been diligent to study to understand why they believe what they believe, they just take the word of someone else. Sin is not, never was, and never will be behavior. It has to do with our thinking, belief and perception concerning truth.
Galatians 5:16-21 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
If there is one thing that CS Lewis gets credit for is saying that there is a such thing as one having a "besetting sin." Like if someone who manages to come to Christ through faith in Him alone naturally has a paraphilia in their wiring that because of that is hard to resist. Like if one even to a light degree has pedophilia tendencies, homosexual tendencies, or always has any kind of a hypersexual condition and is addicted to opportunities that turn them on sexually and that they can even take to their private rooms to masturbate even to orgasm over, and even conditions like that. To add to what any of that kind of a tendency is a symptom of, how about one that easily gets drawn and distracted by fetishes? I have always wondered spiritually what one can assume about how strong their walk with Christ against Satan can always be able to be when they have such besetting tendencies that also seems hard to properly treat when they realize what is harmful to themselves and others not to mention the order of God's Natural Law about having any of these kinds of conditions. When we feel remorse for what perversion we have and more so the more unnatural we can see and feel that it is, if any amount of any of these are our issue, but at the same time can't resist the urge sometimes, it would be nice to know how much God can continue to forgive it and how we can always be able to stay pure from the devil's steps of victory over us every time we fail to resist it. The same goes for if a Christian has the right kind of physical conditions that constitute acquiring an addictive personality, and if when you do get addicted to and physically dependent on substances (not to be confused with when it is a proper treatment that maybe we need for that time and can be managed right if it is ever possible to be able to get independent of treatment), and can't seem to shake it even if it's causing complications in your life and in your friends and family's lives as well. Something as monstrous as the infamous sin of pride seems easier to resist spiritually after being convicted and repenting of it than some of these other dangerous tendency sin producing conditions. A good question goes the same for the kind of stuff mentioned above here that are harder for some of us to resist than others, even as born-again believers. What do you do about it?
I walked away from the faith for a few years because I was tired of all of the combative theology and frustration over how to interpret scripture. During my time following my own path, I met an amazing person woman and her 12 year old son and have been seeing her now for 2 years. We own a home together. Now I’m coming back to my walk with Jesus and find myself in an uncomfortable place. I don’t see how it would be Christ like to abandon them just because they don’t want to be saved at the moment. But if I stay and continue to be unequally yoked while living together and intimate, I don’t want to offend God.
Praise God you ca e back to the faith!! This is happening toy friend now. She's living with a man who's not a Christian but has no conviction about it. She says she's still saved and we all in sin. Well yes but there are great consequences for our sin and disobedience. I tried to tell her the truth before she's been with him too long but she won't listen. Even though its really hard, I pray the Lord will help you to do the right thing and He will bless you for it. 🙏❤️
I would like to remarry as I am only 55 and have wanted to have an exchange of love in a relationship that is healthy and mature. But........according to scripture I cannot. It saddens my heart but I must follow God's will
@@cavelleardiel Have you tried reconciling with your husband? I should point out to you in Christian love that it's never The Father's will that a couple divorce. Genesis 2:24 Mark 10:7-9 Ephesians 5:31-33. I will be praying for you 🙏
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 I have moments where I think about tit. He is a good man but I can't live with him. He is not interested in the teachings of the Bible and there are other things that are incompatible.
@@cavelleardiel well friend, I encourage you to be his prayer warrior. Anyone can be changed by the Lord. Bring your husband before God in prayer and put your requests before Him. With man, it seems hopeless, with God, all things are possible (Luke 1:37)
And when you have a unclean thought you have to cast it down to the dust of the ground this is a very good way to conquer your sin be mindful of your thoughts and your words cast out all unclean thoughts and words and bind them with chains of darkness and cast down to the ground
GAL3:03 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? EPH1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, EPH1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. We can be out of fellowship and lose blessings that God wanted to give us, but if you think you can sin your way out of salvation, your good is too small. Beware though. His correction is coming.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:15 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9
It's so simple. But man has to make it so hard because they just don't want to admit that there is nothing good that dwells in them, that they are totally guilty before God, that they need a Saviour whom God has graciously provided-Jesus Christ.
How to handle sin that you have a hard time stopping you have to ask for deliverance and ask forgiveness get help with that sin but always confess to one another
Ask and you will be given. In concord other Father will. Ask that you should not be tempted by the sin. Go ran to God, if you feel like you are going to sin. If you fail and sin, go to God, and apologize if you wrong someone else. Then forgive yourself, and continued to walk close to Christ Jesus.
The way to stay out of sin is by not projecting it out upon others. That's covered in Matt 6.14-15 14 “If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. 15 But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins. Actually, you will 'think' your Father will not forgive your sins. If you think of others as sinful, you will think of yourself the same way, but it may be hidden in the subconscious. People who think they are sinful will fear retribution from God or the world if they don't believe in God. "Judge not or you will be judged." That's judgement by yourself because God sees us as He created us, innocent, and in truth, we cannot override God's perfect creation, but the prodigal son thinks he can by making up his own world.
But there are levels of sin. For example if I routinely murder people or sleep with people that a is higher level of sin than if I, say, get irritated with people on a daily basis. I routinely repent of sin but I am unsure of where I really stand with God. So could I lose salvation because of irritation? And some things , I don't know if they are sin or not. e.g. Must I consult with God with every small decision in my life? If I don't, is that sin? I am unsure. Certainly I struggle with sin. But on an every day basis, I am not living in sin. Nothing is said here about unforgiveness. A few people in my family are alcoholics (I am not) and with 3 members I am estranged. I do forgive them but currently for my sanity, I dont relate to them. I find it difficult to know for sure I have done the right thing. Recently I reread parts of the Gospels and realised Jesus has something to say. about the situation. Sometimes you are the sinner, but sometimes you are sinned against. Jesus addresses both parts, so there is something for me to do. I am autistic and alexithymic and they cause a significant amount of inner uncertainty in my life. I am now 63. I have never slept with anyone or had a single relationship ever because of A&A. Then again I never hear from God either. And I have been a Christian since 1982.
We have to make a distinction. There is a difference between someone who professed to be a Christian but never truly made that honest decision. This might be a spouse who says, yes I am saved because they want to get married or be accepted by a spouse. But they never were saved. Profession salvation is only part of this process. This is different from someone who made a life change in the heart and had true salvation and is now struggling with sin. You CAN'T lose your salvation if you were ever truly saved.
I married a divorced man who left his first wife in an unbiblical divorce. The marriage was emotional misery and I left him (divorce) 27 years ago. I have been remarried (happily) for 25 years and have two kids. Am I living in sin?
Here are the two sermons to you help understand when you are trusting your faith in Christ, you are forgiven all trespasses and you are complete in Him colossians 2:10-13 and here is an illustration. Christ is the white envelope and you are a penny. When you are in the white envelope, no matter what you do and you seal and forgive all sins. 1. Amazing & Eternal grace 2. Faith, which kind do you have
not sure where he's getting the fourth category in 1 corinthians, looking at the passage I'm only seeing 3: unvelievers, mature christians, and newer believers who are addressed as closer to unbelievers because they're not spiritually mature yet. Also, why does NO one EVER go to 1 John on this subject? the second half of chapter 1 and entirety of chapter 3 makes it incredibly clear, especially with the beginning of chapter 2 in mind. 3:9 sums it up pretty well if translated correctly to include the ongoing aspect that the Greek portrays
FYI Any time a Christian is conscious of his sin, judges the sin and takes sides against it with a penitent heart, then he has a perfect right to trust the Lord for instant, complete forgiveness and for perfect cleansing. JOHN R. RICE, Hindrances to Prayer
Jesus Christ went to the cross and now lives to set sinful you free from death and hell. Repent and turn your heart to Him before it’s too late. If He calls your heart, say yes!
The bible makes it clear, "You cannot live in sin and still be saved." 2 Timothy 2:19 says, “The Lord knows those who are His.” And yet Jesus said, “Every branch IN ME that does not bear fruit He takes away;... “If anyone does not abide IN ME, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned." Therefore, a branch that is IN HIM can be removed from the vine and cast into the fire, and burned (John 15:1-8).
I love the lord and hate sin and theres a sin i want to get out of i ask our father every day some times i have to even say to my self if im seperated from jesus through known my sin thats the way it had to be im sick of living in fear and even become sin phobia in the past.
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome. For whoever has been born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world: our faith." 1 John 5:3-4 NASB2020 Don't let anyone tell you that you can live in sin and be saved. The desires of your flesh are your sacrifice to God. They are not holy and never have been. Anyone who tells you that you can still be saved if you live in sin is a liar. Would you forgive someone who stole from you and then apologized only to steal from you again? Eventually you will realize that this person is not really sorry that they stole from you they are simply apologizing to avoid consequences. God is no fool. He will not be mocked. You mock Him when you repent and go and do the same sin over and over. How are you truly sorry if you repent for having sex with someone you are not married to only to get up with the plan of doing the same thing the next day? You are not repentant. You are mocking God and believing He's a fool who will forgive your blatant disregard for His commandments as if you could outsmart your Creator. You don't truly have faith and you are only deceiving yourself. "But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not just hearers who deceive themselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. But one who has looked intently at the perfect law, the law of freedom, and has continued in it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an active doer, this person will be blessed in what he does." James 1:22-25 NASB2020
If we are DOING the certain sins mentioned as in Gal. 5 we will NOT enter the kingdom. Whether we feel....bad about it or not. Unless of course we turn back to Christ.
I think its not a matter of "can a Christian struggle with Sin as if its some exceptional situation, but rather of course Christians struggle with sin"
Towards the end, did Allen mean that we will have to face the consequences of our sin in the after life, or that those sins have earthly, physical consequences? A bit of clarity there would be awesome if anyone can answer this for me
Please help me im in a really bad situatin im realy struggling and doing really bad descustinf sins please help me ive tryed my best to repent of all my descusting sins and descusting thoughts please forgive me father i know ive been doing descusting sins and im so sorry jesus my impure thoughts my lies my stealing fraud drug abuse please help me clairex
Can you claim to be a Christian (saved) and live a life of continuous sin or practice sin? I'm referring to someone who has been "saved" for a long time. If so, what then is the purpose of death of Jesus on the cross.
No, you can't live in sin and still be a Christian. You have to pick a side. God said that he rather for you to be hot or cold. Revelation 3:15-16. When you become a Christian there will be times when you fall but when you do you have to get back up and follow God! Repent and follow GOD.
I would say no, but it is unwise and it isn't God will. You body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, therefore anything that destroy's the temple is unwise and isn't in the will of the Lord.
Please keep me in your prayers. I have Asked Jesus to save a sinner like me. I know i am not a good person and the only way to heaven is through Jesus. I need prayer bc i keep falling back into the same sin. I have. a couple days where im really into the Word and then i go back into the sin :/ lust is bad and i need Jesus to change my heart. I feel so bad after i fall back into sin.
You must truly repent by putting to death the deeds of the body (Romans 8:13), by cleansing your hands & purifying your heart (James 4:8). You can put the flesh to death through true repentance/godly sorrow (worldly sorrow leads to a sin/repent cycle). You can be free from sin if you abide in Christ & walk in the light (I John 1). God's grace will instruct and teach you how to deny ungodliness & worldly lusts and help you live soberly, righteously, and godly (Titus 2:11-14). Seek Him with the whole heart, my friend, and you will find Him and know the truth. I am a testimony to that!
@@johntrevett2944 Hi John, yes a believer can quench/grieve the Holy Spirit but when we do we must turn to God and ask for help to not do that. If you are a true believer you will hate to sin because you have the holy spirit in you. Believers are not perfect! Only God is. When you do fall, God wants us to get back up and run to Him. PROVERBS 24:16 What I've said is straight from the word of God. Romans 8:8, Romans 6:23,1 Corinthians 6:9-11
100% NO those who belong to Christ have crucified their flesh with its passions and desires Gal 5:24 the soul that sins it shall die Ezek. For if you live according to the flesh you will die Roman’s 8:13. Jesus has the power to release you from the power of sun that satan has put on you. Who the Son sets free shall be free indeed. John 8:32. If you care about your life go on your knees and pray to Jesus tell Him you are a sinner before Him and that you believe that He is the Christ and He will make you born again of the Holy Spirit which is the only way to be freed from sin and to enter heaven Jesus is the Way, the truth, and the life. John 14:6
-no one who sins has an indwelling Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit will not dwell in a defiled temple. YAHweh's born again saints cannot sin because they are born of YAHweh -1 John 3:9 1 Peter 4:1 tells us all of YAHweh's born again saints have ceased from sinning. the children of satan and his ministers continue to sin and try to convince you that you cannot stop sinning -1 John 3:8 salvation truth for you
Between the two of you I feel you really muddied up the waters. Allen attempts to bring the question within Scriptural context, but I've noticed that the same people that say "You cannot live in sin and still be saved" are the same people are preaching "Eternal Security." It doesn't seem like that's where Allen Par is going, but the Alisa Childers shoots the whole thing down repeating something she's heard, "If you could sin your way out of salvation we all would have dodne it a long time ago." With that remark in the air where is the answer to the question, "Can you live in sin and remain a Christian?" I ask because her statement says "Yes," but I'm pretty sure that's not what Allen said. If you don't know say so.
The bible makes it clear, "You cannot live in sin and still be saved." Paul said to the Corinthians: "No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? DO NOT BE DECEIVED. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." It's nonsense for so-called pastors to say that Christians cannot turn back to these things. Yes, they can! And, the branch can be removed from the vine and cast into the fire John 15:1-8.
@@MFaith777 Is there a chapter and verse with that? Lots of people claim faith in something, but even if their faith is placed right does it mean they recognize their own sin? There must be some sort of standard to judge things on correct?
Sin is the opposite of Gods nature. God is perfect and holy, the standard of all good and bad. Sin is basically just evil. We can discern it somewhat what our intellect but we test it with the word of God. If you want to know if something is a sin, pray and see if you can find a scripture that talks about it
@@elijahmcgrath5918 That's the thing, if God is perfect and holy wouldn't He have conveyed that to His people? Where in the Word of God would someone find that?
@@hanzschaggi4254 1 Samuel 2:2 1 peter 1:15-16 Isaiah 57:15 Isaiah 6:3 Psalm 96:6 Exodus 15:11 Revelation 4:8 Psalm 103:1-22 1 john 1:7 Matthew 5:48 Revelation 15:4 1 chronicles 16:29 Isaiah 40:25 Ezekiel 36:23 1 john 1:5 Just to name a few
We're concerned because there's so many scriptures that are specific to Chrsitians are not to sin again or else you never knew Him, that just can't be ignored . The struggle Paul had is highly debated that it is pretense and not past tense salvation wise. Your either in or out, it seems. Everything any one tries to quote is either twisted or mis understood as the usual fail is that either they do not read before and after chapters or its pre salvation.. Just like the famous " Any one who says they do not sin ......". I'd love to hear all evidence on both sides humbly studied like Mike winger usually does. He usually had the answer to all these controversial questions but this is one he admits he doesn't know...... everyone wants to knit pick what fits and ignore the other side???? Why??? What are you scared of?
There is a shame that comes from the spirit and there is a shame of the world, I would say many in the world have shame at times depending on how far they fall down the hole, Unsaved drug addicts, Prostitute, Sometimes abortions or adultery can cause shame among the unsaved, But if we run to God, Its possible its the shame or sorrow that leads to repentance but there is a sorrow that does not lead to repentance also
The only way to overcome sin is by the power of the Holy Spirit which we recieve when we are Born Again. Scripture says: Colossians 2:11: "and in Him (Jesus) you were also circumcised with a circumcision performed without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ," Jesus removes the flesh nature and we lose sinful desires. Not many people believe in the power of the Holy Spirit to enable them to be righteous and to live righteous. If one is not born again they cannot enter God's kingdom. Ezekiel ch 44-9 "This is what the Sovereign LORD says: No foreigner uncircumcised in heart and flesh is to enter my sanctuary, not even the foreigners who live among the Israelites." Those who struggle with sin do not have the Holy Spirit. They are still under the law and they will be judged by the law. They are trying to control their sins on their own because they don't believe that Jesus removes the flesh nature when he baptises us with the Holy Spirit. They deny that the we can live without sin through the power of the Holy Spirit. It is their unbelief in the power of God to deliver them that keeps them from receiving true salvation.
I would say that not only can a Christian struggle with sin but that in fact EVERY human being struggles with sin. Jesus is the only one who struggled with temptation and was without sin and if we accept His sacrifice then that perfection is applied to us. What matters most is the reaction to sin. I believe a Christian can sin so bad that God will take them out before they can cause more disgrace to the Body of Christ. That is how I read Paul’s exhortation to the Corinthians to stop taking the Lord’s Supper in an unworthy manner. That is the consequence of persistent unrepentant sin for the Christian.
Please help me,I had a dream that rapture took place and I did not make it to heaven I have been trying my best to live a righteous life but I keep going back to sin of telling lies etc
Praying for you. Just remember that God is always with you. He is always by your side. This verse has helped me when I felt the same as you. I know how you feel. I'm still battling things too, we all are, but God has led through a lot of things that I thought I couldn't beat and I believe He will keep doing it as long as I am here. And I believe He will and is doing the same for you. God bless. "No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation, he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it." 1 Corinthians 10:13 ESV
I understand the struggle. We are not righteous by our own deeds but our righteousness is in Jesus Christ. What I did to overcome the beast of sin through God's grace is I fasting for 7 days and presented it onto the Lord, day and night, night and day and I trusted Christ to do it without a shadow of a doubt. Sining is funny at the time but truly there is not true or peace in sin. Read the Bible regularly and watch out for the things that trigger you to sin and obtain from them. He will delivered you when you become sick of the sin A regular lifestyle or fasting and prayer will strengthen you spiritual against that beast of sin. Jesus is able.
You must crucify the flesh with it's passions and desires through a real repentance/godly sorrow and then God's grace will teach you to deny ungodliness & worldy lusts & help you live righteously and godly in this present world...as in NOW. Please search these things out. There is freedom in the truth to those whom seek God with a pure heart.
Answers can always be found in Gods word. “He that overcometh,👈 (sin) the same shall be *clothed* in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.” {Revelation 3:5} -->Jesus does not cloth us in *his* righteousness over our filthy rags. And hereby we do know that we know him, *if* we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is *the love of God* perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. {1 John 2:3-6} Here is the preserverance of the saints, here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith *of* Jesus. {Revelation 14:12}
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. {Romans 7:12-14} The law is like a mirror to a Christian, which the unbeliever doesn't have, because they are not guided by the Holy Spirit.
Sin sucks... . The joy out of me... But it affirms my need for a Saviour.. Praise God for Jesus Christ
@Jezus nadchodzi I politely say, you're wrong.
Your assumption is that the Kingdom of God is all of heaven. It is not. The Kingdom of God is the new Jerusalem that will descend out of heaven to earth.
Jesus being the light inside the city where there is no shadow is what Jesus spoke of when he said
Matthew 8:12
But the unfaithful heirs of that kingdom will be thrown into the darkness outside.
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You cannot lose your eternal life because you are in Jesus and The Father's hands. But if you become a child of God, you can lose the heavenly inheritance through things you practice.
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Galatians 5:19-21 International Standard Version (ISV)
19 Now the actions of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, promiscuity,
20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, rivalry, jealously, outbursts of anger, quarrels, conflicts, factions,
21 envy, murder, drunkenness, wild partying, and things like that. I am telling you now, as I have told you in the past, that people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
@@Quake1983 Sorry bro this is majorly inaccurate and a mishandling of scripture, outer darkness is Hell and Christians still go to Hell all of the time, we can lose salvation. We must Flee from sin and kill it, the Bible says sin litterally wages war against our souls.
1 John 2:1 “ My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And IF anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
Exactly, ppl try to say WHEN but Paul clearly say IF.
@@dlove9034 Actually, that was John who wrote that.
@@dlove9034 absolutely. it shouldn't be the norm but If we do, we are dependant and stand on Christ's righteousness, not our own.
People might try to make an excuse to sin, but this shows their heart is not right with God.
Luke 5:32
" I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."- Jesus calls us to repent-to turn away from our sin
@@nicklandry8019 It's the difference between Relationship with God and Fellowship with God.
@@jamestrotter3162 lol my bad, always get that mixed up
There’s a reason the Bible doesn’t give us black and white answers like, “Here’s the line of how much you can sin before you’re no longer considered being a Christian” or “How far can I go before it’s sinful?” The Bible says FLEE from it, not get as close as you can to the fire without getting burned. We (and close godly brothers and sisters in Christ) are to keep ourselves accountable for our own actions. We are to test ourselves to see if we are truly in the Faith. It is so easy to deceive ourselves into professing Christ or living a “Christian life” while not at all being a Christian. And Lord knows we love to toe those lines the moment they are drawn for us. God knows our wicked hearts and selfish desires.
Indeed , He knows we are but Dust .
Temptations are a fantastic tool to show us the Lusts that are within us . The Father knows already, but he wants us to see them and hand them over to Him to deal with . We must let God build the house and not strive in our own strength to overcome these Issues.
After all , it's God who has begun a good work in us and it's God who will finish it .
@Jezus nadchodzi Sorry, but those verses don't support losing salvation.
Amen!!
WTF??? THE BIBLE GAVE YOU THE 10 COMMANDMENTS!
really? ever heard of the 10 commandments?? oh yea I forgot. you are a christian so of course you do not know what they are
A believer will fall into sin, an unbeliever will dive into sin.
A believer MAY fall into sin. We don’t have to and should not. 1 cor 10:13, 1 John 3:7
@@jordandthornburg The flesh is very irritating to contend we need to let God know we are sorry for our sins daily and repent it's a constant struggle with the flesh but Jesus is mighty to save and his will is that no one would parish not one person but we should strive to be Holy with the help of the Holy Spirit as it's impossible without the Holy Spirit
Very well summarized.
@@markhall6306 We need to walk in the spirit bro and we won’t fulfill the desires of the flesh Gal 5:16.
@@jordandthornburg Like Jerry Falwell, Jr?
Lately, I've been falling back to a sin that I suffered from before I was saved. I started looking like my old self.
I thank God for this video.
Hey man! Have you gotten help for overcoming that sin? If not, let's talk about and pray over it:) if, of course, you'd like to.
Nonetheless, may God bless you and help you overcome whatever it is
@@nrai4210 Pray for me! I know Jesus save and haves the keys to Heaven and Hell and is LITERALLY THE ONLY WAY! Stuck with lust. Online mainly. I pray but help me. My name is Daniel Morales. Thanks!
Alf, always remember just confess, ask the Lord to forgive, and go on! That's it! Praise Him!!!
Praying 🙏 for you
Remember to follow and listen to the Word instead of feelings as feelings are deceptive, I think I've spent a lot of precious minutes asking for forgiveness just because I didn't feel what I wanted to feel
The real question is. "Is someone who still live in sin truly saved ?". Not that when we become Christian, we become perfect. But the effort we put in trying, knowing that we can't even be perfect is what show we are saved.
Amen!
Difference between living in sin and struggling with sin
But even if ur living in sin don’t mean u not saved and that’s facts read ur Bible
Saved people can live in sin, they just wouldn’t enjoy life. The marks of a true Christian isn’t whether or not they live in sin but is do they hate it and love God? The natural unsaved person doesn’t care, the Christian who lives in sin does.
i been struggling alot with sin and been feeling like god does not love me any more because of it and I cried out for a sign that I was doing something right. then this came up in my recommended, now granted I watch Christian videos so that would explain why but I watched a bit of this then clicked off and something just kept telling me to come back to watch it and I 100% believe it was god telling me that I need to listen to this
i think "struggling with vs accommodating sin" is the important distinction...i know people who fully embrace a sinful lifestyle while saying how much they "love Jesus"- it's deeply troubling to see both of these things coming out of the same person...I also find it very interesting that we used to be so concerned about being labeled a "hypocrite" as believers, but now we're more concerned about being called "un-loving"...
I'm assuming a saved person can't sin without being bothered by it.
Amen.
John 10:27
"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me"
Revelation 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
Thank you my brethren for your services and fellowship on topics we have questions for! Keep on pressing for the LORD in Jesus' name, have a blessed one
Paul did not say that he was a carnal Christian. He said, "Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. Romans 7:20. In Romans 7: 21-25, Paul describes the spiritual warfare that goes on in the lives of all believers. He concludes that "God delivers" him through "Jesus Christ". Which is another way of saying that in the war with the "flesh" he is being victorious over sin in his flesh. So in truth, there is no such thing as a "carnal Christian"! I believe many have been confused or deceived into thinking that since there are those who sin most of the time, and still claim to be Christians, that they are "carnal Christians".
1John 3:4-9 makes it clear that those who sin most of the time or practice lives of sin are not "carnal Christians" but no Christian AT ALL.
Agreed. Good points man, and there’s a very good case to be made that Paul is referring to one under conviction of the law preconversion. It’s actually very unlikely he is referring to a present believers life for several contextual reasons
Agreed
Amen!
@Sonship edification Process yes he does. That framework is completely invented, with all respect.
1 Cor 3:1 “And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.”
Every day is a new struggle. If our hearts are sincere and like king David, are always after God's heart, then what else can we do or be. In the end God knows our hearts and we are judged accordingly. Don't assume you are saved, but live as if you are not.
Allen Parr , what a wonderfully balanced Man of God .
Don't know if that is a sufficient enough answer for this tough question. It still leaves a lot of room for the hyper grace believers. The word tells us to search the scriptures. How many of us search the scriptures and meditate on them in order to know our God better and in turn become more Christlike. Very easy to skim over them and miss this opportunity for God's spirit to work in us. Yes, we will always struggle with sin but if you don't allow yourself to be convicted you deceive yourself. You can't rely just on preachers. A lot of them today don't preach to convict like preachers of old did. Their pay packets don't allow that. Just my thought on this topic.
Couldn't agree more. When I was in sin and searching for truth and guidance through preachers and teachers. If I came across teachings such as this I would be remained longer in sin because such teaching is too blurred on the subject.
Agreed
Great points made by the gentleman. Who is he?
Jesus said, 'If you love Me keep My comnands'
John 14:15
We can fool one another, we can fool ourselves but we cannot fool God. He sees through all of our motivations. 🙏
Allen Parr
@theBeat
Hi Lina, that would be Allen Parr. He also has a youtube channel that is super helpful. cheers! :-)
justme & ALBERTINA, Thank you! 💓Always looking 4dedicated servants of the Most High!
@@linak7155 I can recommend some more:
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Melissa Dougherty
Mike Winger
Steven Bancarz
Ruslan KD
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Allen Parr is deceived and he will other lead you further astray. You cannot live in sin and still be saved.
There is only one truth from God and the rest is all lies that are being fabricated by the many who are lost and deceived. The vast majority of believers are so deceived in their beliefs that they foolishly believe that scripture is relating that they can never stop sinning. They clearly have no idea that God commanded us to live a holy and righteous life which can only be achieved by no longer sinning. Since we are all born in sin and in ignorance of God’s word and truth this is the reason why Jesus came into this world. Jesus came to forgive us of the sins that we have already committed and He came to teach us how to stop sinning through His Holy Spirit.
Jesus certainly did not come to forgive our past, present and future sins as many of the deceived desire to believe and there are no such scriptures that even back up that nonsense. This spoken untruth is having people believe that they can continue to sin and then simply repent and God will just forgive them over and over. This twisted reasoning would mean that you can steal and then repent, you can lie and then repent, you can murder and simply repent. You can keep committing whatever sin you desire and just repent afterwards and you will always be forgiven. Jesus came to call sinners to repentance which meant for them to no longer sin.
So to try and justify why they still sin many deceived believers will twist the meaning of scriptures like 1 John 1:8-1O or Romans 3:10, 3:23 and 7. For some foolish reason these lost souls desire to believe that Paul and the apostles continued to sin and they will often twist the Romans 7 scripture to try and back up their lies. These deceived believers fail to realize that we have all been sinners at one time in our lives and Paul was simply relating how he was a sinner until he was freed by knowing Christ. They clearly overlook how Paul related that he had died to sin and he was no longer a slave to sin in Romans 6.
Many also love to twist what the I John 1:8-10 is relating in order to justify their sin. This scripture is simply relating that everyone is born a sinner since we are all born in sin and ignorance of truth. It is saying that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. It is also stating that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere is this scripture ever relating that a believer will always sin as those who follow the devil and his lies desire to believe.
The Romans 3:10 is relating that none of us are righteous since we are all born in sin and this is why we needed a savior to teach us how to stop sinning. Romans 3:23 is actually stating the same thing since we are all born in sin and we all fall short of the glory of God.
Many believers who are lost and deceived try to justify their sin by claiming that the apostles were sinners themselves and they will often use the scripture where Peter denied Jesus as their justification. When they do this nonsense they are clearly revealing their complete ignorance of scripture and they prove how they are being guided by a demon spirit and not the Holy Spirit. So did the apostles all sin at some time in their lives? They most definitely did since everyone is born in sin and in ignorance of truth. Now did Peter sin when he denied Christ? He most certainly did but many overlook how this occurred before Peter was sanctified in truth. Next, did Peter sin when Paul corrected him in Galatians 2? No he did not since Peter was following the Old Covenant laws that he was raised under and Paul was simply revealing how their old custom traditions should no longer apply under God’s New Covenant.
Many believers are so lost and deceived that they are not comprehending what scripture is relating and they do not understand that the apostles were originally sinful disciples who allowed Jesus to sanctify their heart in God’s truth. This meant that the apostles were sinners who willingly followed the teachings of Jesus and they allowed Jesus to teach them how to overcome their sins. This is why God then used them as His messengers and He gave them His power to heal. Read John 17:6-19 where Jesus prayed for His disciples sanctification to prove what I relate.
Another thing that the many deceived believers clearly overlook is how scripture relates that God does not listen to the prayers of sinners. God’s word never lies so this alone proves that the apostles could never have performed healing miracles if they were still sinners themselves. Jesus could work healing miracles because He was sinless and so God then answered His prayers. The apostles then reached the place where they overcame their sins as well and so this is why God then answered their healing prayers.
“Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him.”
John 9:31 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
Scripture relates that anyone who is born of God does not sin and because they can no longer sin this is why they can no longer get sick since sickness only comes from sin and the devil. So if you can still sin and you can still get sick then that certainly proves that you are not BORN AGAIN. This is why many believers who live in sin and sickness will try and justify their afflictions by twisting the meaning of various scripture like claiming that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. Many lost and ignorant souls desire to believe that Paul was always sick or that Paul was someone who had bad eyesight so allow me to reveal just how deceived these believers truly are since I will explain what Paul was relating in the 2 Corinthians 12:7-10 scripture. First, what does a thorn in the flesh do? Well it causes pain and suffering. So just as Jesus suffered in the wilderness by being tempted by Satan, Jesus then allowed a messenger of Satan to tempt Paul in order to make him stronger in the Holy Spirit.
“And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.”
II Corinthians 12:7-10 NKJV
If Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him then what could possibly make anyone believe that he was someone who had sickness in his own life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that Paul was someone who could then get sick himself?
“Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:4-9 NKJV
So scripture clearly states that whoever sins does not know God and whoever sins is of the devil. Scripture also clearly relates that whoever abides in God and is born of God cannot sin and does not sin. So anyone who sins or anyone who believes that they can never stop sinning is simply a deceived believer who cannot comprehend what scripture is relating since they are blinded to truth. They are being influenced by the lies of a demon spirit and they certainly are not being guided by the Holy Spirit. There is no sin and sickness with God and there is no sin and sickness for the true children of God. So if you are someone who can still get sick then that alone proves that you have not overcome sin. You are deceived in your beliefs and you certainly do not understand the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind.
1 John 3:6
No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. (ESV)
1 John 3:9
No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
1 John 5:18
We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him.
Pretty clear
Wow, please pray for my friend Josh, he is straying away from what these scriptures reflect. 🙏
@Sonship edification Process I know this causes a lot of fights. I’m not trying to do that, but with sincerity how do John’s scripture contradict Paul’s? I just really want to know in case I’m ever asked. I really believe Paul’s gospel. Thanks.
@Sonship edification Process There's only one Church, One Lord, one faith, one baptism. There isn't one faith for the Jew, and a different faith for the Gentile. John taught the same gospel as Paul. John wrote to the same church as Paul. John was definitely not under the law and he preached to Jew and Gentile. He was also an elder of the church in Ephesus, which was a Gentile city in Asia Minor(Turkey). Everything that John taught applies to Gentile believers as well as Jewish believers. Remember, in Christ there is neither Jew or Gentile. "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."-Galatians 3:27-28.
@@jamestrotter3162 amen
Go back a Chapter to 1 John 2:1 "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And IF anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous"
A Christian will not live and dwell in sin, but if we do sin, We have an Advocate with the Father on our behalf. We stand on the Righteousness of Jesus Christ, not of our own righteousness.
We don't abuse the Grace of Christ by habitually practicing unrepentant sin. If so, you may have not truly been born again. But If a Christian sins, Jesius is there on our behalf. The Spirit given you will know you have sinned and will be repentant of if.
Thank God for the righteousness of Jesus Christ. I could not stand before him on my own righteousness. I throw myself at the foot of the cross and am fully dependant on His finished work.
The quote Alisa referred to has been attributed to John MacArthur. I saw it on a meme and saved it because it was such a powerful statement.
That's where I first heard it too.
I didn't feel this answer was sufficient, respectfully
I’ve been feeling defeated lately falling back into my old sin even though I accepted Christ. I feel like a failure I probably blocked all my blessings. What a battle it is. I use to be stronger a couple years back I don’t know what happened to me.
How are you doing now?
What happened is that you lost sight and focus, the narrow path began to seem burdensome and you stumbled. I speak this as one who has experienced this very same thing myself. You feel weary and that feeling of defeat is taking a toll driving you to continue falling back and returning to "Egypt." So I tell you, do not feel defeated, do not succumb to it, stand up seek the Lord and be cleansed, don't hide your sins. Forsake them, flee from them then hold fast to God and consider him daily in prayer and thoughts that you wither not away and become unfruitful. God will prune every branch that bears forth good fruit, build up your faith and add to your faith all the things Peter mentions... (2 Peter 1:5-7)
John McArthur said it. If you could lose your salvation you would.
Love that! Love from Va. Maranatha!
You can. MacArthur is wrong
@Desire Of All Nations MacArthur is a heretic who claims 2 false doctrines:
1. That one can take the Mark of the Beast and still enter heaven.
2. That there are allowances for divorce and that remarriage after said divorce to another while the original Covenant spouse is alive is not Adultery.
These are False, heretical beliefs. Pray for his Repentance and that his followers turn to Christ and away from his false teaching
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Those are interesting, but John is actually correct about if you could lose salvation, you would. It's a gift, and Romans 11:29 says, "His gifts are irrevocable." That means taken back, and that's the only way for a believer to lose salvation, is if God took it back, just like he gave it. But he doesn't. None of us are strong enough to hold onto it by ourselves. If you could lose salvation, it would become based on works to keep from losing it. It wouldn't be by his grace (Romans 11:6).
@@all_mine1233 Maybe "lose" is indeed the wrong terminology. I think walk away from is a better phrase. James 5:19-20 clearly states a Believer can wander from the Faith and if a brother brings him back he saves a soul from death. That's not physical death, but SPIRITUAL death.
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. [1 John 1:8-11]
In order for someone to live in sin, they have to reject the holy spirit, the only sin that's not forgiven.
Great discussion!
Jesus said: "go and sin no more" (John 8:11)
"Sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you" (John 13:15)
“See, you have been made well. Stop sinning, or something worse may happen to you.” (John 5:14)
@Jezus nadchodzi so i can deny the trinity and go to heaven. cool. thanks for letting me know
@Jezus nadchodzi since you and Paul claim i am not under the law I do not have to keep the 1st commandment
@Jezus nadchodzi so you have to keep the 10 to enter life?
@Jezus nadchodzi so your bs answer is no. so for the record you are saying that one does not have to keep the 1st commandment.
"If you could lose your salvation, you would." -Dr John MacArthur
Amen!
So what is the answer that this channel is proposing? I’m still not clear. Allen seems to be saying that if you make a plan to sin, then no, you aren’t saved. However, if you sin, but didn’t plan to or maybe, just couldn’t seem to help yourself, then you are. Then Alisa wraps up by seemingly contradicting everything Allen said by basically saying that we can’t sin our way out of salvation, to which he says, Amen??
I do like how Allen mentions that he always wants to see what the scriptures have to say, but where does scripture make a distinction between planned and unplanned sin?
Hi Alisa and Pastor Parr, thank you both for such great content. I have learnt so much through your teachings and apologetic discussions. I have even signed up to Pastor Parr's online Bible studies. God bless you both. I have a little criticism concerning Pastor Parr's approach around this subject. I am not sure if Pastor Parr is aware of how he come across when handling the subject matter of believers practising sin in general. Your question was 'Can a Christian live in sin and go to heaven? It seem like a Yes or No answer to me, then Pastor Parr would buildup his answer base on scriptures. But, I have listened to a few of his videos on similar topic & I always walk away thinking he's tender on believers practising sin.. I am certainly not suggesting that he should start betting people up, because for many believers that are living in sin and struggling. They need to know that the the Lord loves them regardless of their sins plus they also need to see that love being demonstrated through brother's & sister's in Christ Jesus.
The Lord delivered me from my cage of sin about a year ago, but I must say that if I was watching some of Pastor Parr's videos on sin whilst I was still living in sin, I would have remained longer in sin. I say this because there is no urgency to stop sining in his teachings.. That's not what I get as the listener any ways!! I was struggling in the sin but I was still doing it and it felt like I was trapped. So, Alisa & Pastor Parr, if I had dead mins after the sins or during the sin, or the rapture occurred at that point, would I still enter heaven?.. God knows I love him, but I was still practising the sin even though my soul was ripped up inside, but I was still practicing sin. The Bible is pretty black and white on believers practising sin Revelation 22:15, 1Cor 6:9 & Gal 5:19-21all are describing those who will not enter heaven. We know that some believers still practice these things all the whilst struggling. I see Pastor Parr as a confident & assertive teacher/ preacher but on this subject, there is a lot of apprehension and blur. As a listener, there is no sense of urgency in his teaching when it comes to believer struggling yet practising sin. What I got from tonight is, as long as we give our lives to Christ, no matter what sin we are commiting, as long as there is a spiritual internal struggle & we want to stop. If we died in that state or if the Lord should returns at that point; we will still enter heaven into heaven with that sin stain. Plus, isn't true repentance by definition to admit the sin before God, ask forgiveness and turn away?.. We all sin, so this isn't about any perfect sinless human being. I am looking for clarity as his answers in my opinion seen vague and without urgency especially on such a crucial subject. I stumbled into a preacher online that preached with such urgency on letting go of sin.. That word gave me to courage and urgent to really repent so that the grace of God would deliver me. God bless you. 💜🙏🏾
what pastor online preached with urgency on letting go of sin?
Alisa's quote at the end.
💯% F A C T S .
Please define "live in sin". We all live in sin.
Openly practice. Such as (but not limited to) being divorced and remarried while your original Covenant spouse is still alive (Adultery), being in a homosexual relationship/lifestyle and defending it, stealing regularly (from work, others, getting Netflix free from another's account, etc. Any outright sinful lifestyle that contradicts scripture and you've been warned to stop.
read Psalms and Proverbs. see those 10 commandments? they are not suggestions. eccl 12.13
@UC-VT6kBHPg-_I4ZyE3r0m6g no. it is called keeping sabbath and the other 9 commandments
“Living in sin” you know you’re sinning but you don’t care what God thinks-unrepentant. And if you do it’s not enough for you to stop you just keep on without asking Christ for help continually. “Not living in Sin” is the opposite you’re repentant surrendered to Christ’s will you trust Christ and call on Him when you’re tempted and when you’re not tempted. You live to please God above all-anything. It’s a process called sanctification we act on our faith in Christ and His power to overcome no matter how long it takes.
2 Corinthians 5:7 “For we walk by faith, not by sight”
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 it is not a sin to be remarried while your original partner is alive, if the original partner committed unrepentant adultery on you and /or if they abused you. There are grounds in scripture for divorce.
Following Jesus a understanding Christianty is pretty simple , living a righteous Holy life as he did is most difficult . But if we could do such , he need not come so we cant he did and its up to all of us to accept his gift or reject him . ❤️❤️🙏🙏
John Macarthur however you spell his last name is the one who was quoted saying her last statement incase anyone wanted to know. God bless!
This is why purgatory, there will come a time when you die in friendship to God, but still caught in sin, nothing unclean can enter Heaven. We must be purged of our sin and the consequences of it not the Eternal consequences the temporal consequences, after whatever time it takes we enter Heaven. CS Lewis wrote a book called the great divide. It paints a picture of how that might look.
purgatory is nowhere in sin. Christ is the one who FULLY took away our sin
I don't see Purgatory anywhere in the Bible.
The biggest question now is: will willful, habitual sin that also causes a repentant heart and anguish even though it's done daily (as it is a bad addiction) be something that prevents a true Christian from being taken in the Rapture? Are there qualifiers for the Rapture, or is it simply by Grace, to those who believe in Jesus's work, as is salvation? Or are there rewards in Heaven that will be lost to a carnal Christian for their habitual sin? Doesn't being born again (in the Spirit) automatically separate our flesh's evil deeds from our spirit which is said to already be Holy and Righteous because of the Blood of Christ? If our flesh cannot earn our place in Heaven, how can it take our place away FROM Heaven?
You all are great Allen Alisa.There is none that are righteous no not one. (Save Jesus Christ) people beat each other up as hypocrites and that is opposite of what the bible tells us to do. Further more if we trust in our own understanding that rabble will be brought to rubble.
Christianity is not just about avoiding sin. But i believe it is also about growing and bearing the fruits of the holy spirit. When the holy spirit comes into you it will be like the smallest seed but would grow to be the tallest tree. The fact that youre still alive means God wills that you would keep bearing much fruit (love joy peace forgiveness patience kindness gentleness etc). For me instead of focusing on sin, lets analyze ourselves if we are bearing much fruit with the holy spirit. Jesus said those who do not bear fruit is cut off like branches and thrown into the fire... seems like focusing on sin wont be the culprit of losing your salvation.
And if youre really serious about christianity... even though youre not perfect and you may still be doing sin... i doubt you wont bear fruit... or atleast people would notice a continous improvement as they relate to you specially your closest relationships.
John 1 4:18 there is no fear in love but perfect love drives out fear. Because fear involves the expectation of divine punishment, so the one who is afraid is not perfected in love.
Here's how I see it, we are naturally sinners so it's easier and seems more desirable for us to sin. But when you get saved and become born again and know Jesus and have a relationship with him, you'll hate the things he hates. Will temptations come? Of course. Jesus was tempted too but Jesus also fled when the devil tried to tempt and in the same way we should too. When you feel that you're getting tempted or you have a weakness and makes you fall into temptation, we are to pray and flee from it. What I found when I was a baby Christian, is that I linger on the sinful things my flesh wants to do, therefore gave in. But as I further in my journey with God, I discovered that if I question that specific temptation it's easier for me to flee from it. Questions like " Does me giving in to his sin worth more than my love for God?".
Sorry if some things don't make sense, just look past the grammatical errors.
That's a very good explanation. But the bible says that we are the righteousness of Christ as believers, so we are no longer sinners.
@@all_mine1233 Can you further explain what you mean by " we are no longer sinners"?
@@RainDropDrop22 As believers we are declared righteous by God by faith. Romans 5:1 says, "Therefore since we have been justified (aka made righteous) by faith, we have peace with God through our lord Jesus Christ." We're still going to slip up and make mistakes, but the bible never once calls you a sinner, but rather a saint. You are being perfected every day in Christ and becoming stronger in him. As Children of God, it's important that we understand this. Labeling yourself a sinner is a lie from the enemy. He loves nothing more than to trap us into thinking we are hopeless and will always struggle with sin. God sees you as a believer without blemish or fault, so you should see yourself that way too.
@@all_mine1233 OH, I see. Thanks for elaborating, I didn't know that myself. I'm a new Christian, so I haven't read the whole Bible yet ( still on Exodus) so thanks for clarifying.
@@RainDropDrop22 You are most welcome!
Paul said, Do we continue in sin no we don’t, but if we do sin and we repent God is faithful and just to forgive us. You must repent
A good article on TGC (The Gospel Coalition) "God Forgave My Sins. Why Do I Need To Keep Asking For Forgiveness?" ☺
Thanks so much! I'm going to read that right now
@@dingotomtom Your welcome! 😊👍🙏
Tgc is garbage but it is a good article
@@joem1633 what do you mean by garbage?
Great discussion. There's an interesting dichotomy that exist within scripture between the willful sinner and the willing Christian. The willful sinner can be summarized by the passage in 2timothy 3:2, where people ''will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient t _o their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God-and then there is the willing Christian who can be summarized in Romans 7, which highlights Paul's own struggle, and also his true and only hope in this matter:
For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!.
We can see a deep awareness of sin and an even deeper despising of its power, but with that knowledge we can see a deep awareness of the one who conquers it continuously on our behalf and an even deeper love for Christ because of His richness of mercy towards us when we do fall short--His kindness will lead the true Christian to repentance. Allan touched on this point of struggling very well. Its an issue of humility vs pride.
“God resists the proud,
But gives grace to the humble.” 1Peter 5::5-6
We are no longer in the flesh if we are in the spirit. We can still walk after the flesh but no believer can lose his salvation once he’s been purchased.
No one is perfect but believing in Jesus Christ Yeshua our Savior and our Lord makes us perfect 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻☦️☦️☦️
praise the Lord and God bless you
If you're truly Protestant about this, then there's only one issue - what is salvation? According to Paul in Romans 4, it's God justifying the ungodly. According to Jesus, it was the man who wouldn't even enter the temple, but asked God to be merciful to him that went home justified. Why do we so often seek to work our way around the clear message of the gospel as spelled out in Romans 3, and what possible certainty can there be for anyone when we do? This is the truth by which Christianity stands or falls.
Yes, salvation means God justifying the ungodly. It is deliverance from sin and it's consequences based on faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross, a preservation from harm, ruin, or loss, the process of crossing from death to life (spiritually), as said in John 5:24. "Truly truly I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me will not be judged but has crossed from death to life." As a saved individual, your crossing from "death to life" begins the moment you become saved, as Jesus lives inside you and gives you his eternal life. You are being preserved on Earth right now until you get to Heaven.
@@all_mine1233 It is indeed a deliverance from sin, death and judgement, but we live in the tension between the now and the not yet (See Paul in Romans 7). Objectively, we have BEEN buried and raised with Christ in baptism (Romans 6), but the true manifestation of this is yet to be seen in the coming renewal (Romans 8). In this, the Apostle is eager to show Chist has become 'all in all' to us and for us - that's the Gospel.
@@howardbabcom Spot on.
saul was a liar. God doe not justify the wicked. he was very clear on this. read Psalms and Proverbs . he also never said it is ok for you to not keep the 10
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 The ones not justified are those who will not repent and believe - "He that is often reproved continues to harden his heart shall be cut off and that without remedy" (Proverbs 29:1). It is the man who KNOWS he cannot be justified because of his own sin but asks the Lord for mercy that God WILL justify, as Jesus declares in Matthew 18:13. Paul shows that unless you are able to keep the Law perfectly, it will only condemn you - that is why we can only be justified by faith in God's grace, given to us in the redeeming death of His Son.
When David murdered Urriah, God dealt with him as a believer. His salvation was never on the line. God promised to punish David and He did punish the latter quite severely. David's own household would turn against each other. This resulted in a civil war between claimants to the throne and all from the same family. David also lost his son through Bathsheba. God made the punishment hurt, but salvation was a gift he would never take from David.
Amen. Thank you for reminding us of Gods grace for all.
Interesting exchange. Two observations: First sin is not bad behavior and is not doing wrong or not doing right. Sin is wrong believing. Jesus referenced this in John 16:9. Bad behavior can be a symptom of sin but it is not sin. And second, there seems to be a focus on "sinful" behavior or lifestyle. Determining whether something is right or wrong, good or evil. This is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which always brings death. This would be sin consciousness and a person walking in the Spirit is no longer sin conscious. Once we realize that we are clean, we are righteous and we are pure, we begin to live like we we actually are in Christ. Whatever we focus our attention on, we empower and tend to become what we focus on. Think on heavenly things.
sin is not bad behavior? what the hell is wrong with you? murder, adultery, lying, stealing, idolatry, breaking Sabbath, is not doing wrong? Have you ever read psalms or Proverbs? sin is the breaking of god's commandments. the lawless and the wicked go to hell. get out of any religion or church you are in. eccl 12.13
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 you should do a word study on sin to see what it actually means. All the things you listed are symptoms of sin. Sin is simply missing the mark of who we are in Christ and who we were created to be. What you described could be described as iniquity. I find it interesting that people get all riled up about things that they really don't understand and rather than having been diligent to study to understand why they believe what they believe, they just take the word of someone else. Sin is not, never was, and never will be behavior. It has to do with our thinking, belief and perception concerning truth.
@@bradharford6052 so it is not a sin to break Sabbath?
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 Romans 14:5
@@bradharford6052 antichrist Saul says the opposite. tell me something I don't know
Galatians 5:16-21
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
If there is one thing that CS Lewis gets credit for is saying that there is a such thing as one having a "besetting sin." Like if someone who manages to come to Christ through faith in Him alone naturally has a paraphilia in their wiring that because of that is hard to resist. Like if one even to a light degree has pedophilia tendencies, homosexual tendencies, or always has any kind of a hypersexual condition and is addicted to opportunities that turn them on sexually and that they can even take to their private rooms to masturbate even to orgasm over, and even conditions like that. To add to what any of that kind of a tendency is a symptom of, how about one that easily gets drawn and distracted by fetishes?
I have always wondered spiritually what one can assume about how strong their walk with Christ against Satan can always be able to be when they have such besetting tendencies that also seems hard to properly treat when they realize what is harmful to themselves and others not to mention the order of God's Natural Law about having any of these kinds of conditions.
When we feel remorse for what perversion we have and more so the more unnatural we can see and feel that it is, if any amount of any of these are our issue, but at the same time can't resist the urge sometimes, it would be nice to know how much God can continue to forgive it and how we can always be able to stay pure from the devil's steps of victory over us every time we fail to resist it.
The same goes for if a Christian has the right kind of physical conditions that constitute acquiring an addictive personality, and if when you do get addicted to and physically dependent on substances (not to be confused with when it is a proper treatment that maybe we need for that time and can be managed right if it is ever possible to be able to get independent of treatment), and can't seem to shake it even if it's causing complications in your life and in your friends and family's lives as well. Something as monstrous as the infamous sin of pride seems easier to resist spiritually after being convicted and repenting of it than some of these other dangerous tendency sin producing conditions.
A good question goes the same for the kind of stuff mentioned above here that are harder for some of us to resist than others, even as born-again believers. What do you do about it?
I walked away from the faith for a few years because I was tired of all of the combative theology and frustration over how to interpret scripture. During my time following my own path, I met an amazing person woman and her 12 year old son and have been seeing her now for 2 years. We own a home together. Now I’m coming back to my walk with Jesus and find myself in an uncomfortable place. I don’t see how it would be Christ like to abandon them just because they don’t want to be saved at the moment. But if I stay and continue to be unequally yoked while living together and intimate, I don’t want to offend God.
Praise God you ca e back to the faith!! This is happening toy friend now. She's living with a man who's not a Christian but has no conviction about it. She says she's still saved and we all in sin. Well yes but there are great consequences for our sin and disobedience. I tried to tell her the truth before she's been with him too long but she won't listen. Even though its really hard, I pray the Lord will help you to do the right thing and He will bless you for it. 🙏❤️
I would like to remarry as I am only 55 and have wanted to have an exchange of love in a relationship that is healthy and mature. But........according to scripture I cannot. It saddens my heart but I must follow God's will
Are you divorced and your original Covenant husband is still alive?
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Correct. I have been separated for 10 years but not divorced as of yet.
@@cavelleardiel Have you tried reconciling with your husband? I should point out to you in Christian love that it's never The Father's will that a couple divorce.
Genesis 2:24
Mark 10:7-9
Ephesians 5:31-33.
I will be praying for you 🙏
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 I have moments where I think about tit. He is a good man but I can't live with him. He is not interested in the teachings of the Bible and there are other things that are incompatible.
@@cavelleardiel well friend, I encourage you to be his prayer warrior. Anyone can be changed by the Lord. Bring your husband before God in prayer and put your requests before Him. With man, it seems hopeless, with God, all things are possible (Luke 1:37)
And when you have a unclean thought you have to cast it down to the dust of the ground this is a very good way to conquer your sin be mindful of your thoughts and your words cast out all unclean thoughts and words and bind them with chains of darkness and cast down to the ground
What about planning to get High and not wanting to repent from it ?
GAL3:03 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
EPH1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, EPH1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
We can be out of fellowship and lose blessings that God wanted to give us, but if you think you can sin your way out of salvation, your good is too small. Beware though. His correction is coming.
Read book of 1st John and find out.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1 Corinthians 3:15
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 1:13
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9
It's so simple. But man has to make it so hard because they just don't want to admit that there is nothing good that dwells in them, that they are totally guilty before God, that they need a Saviour whom God has graciously provided-Jesus Christ.
I cast all my wicked sins down
4:15 what’s he mean?
How to handle sin that you have a hard time stopping you have to ask for deliverance and ask forgiveness get help with that sin but always confess to one another
Ask and you will be given. In concord other Father will. Ask that you should not be tempted by the sin. Go ran to God, if you feel like you are going to sin. If you fail and sin, go to God, and apologize if you wrong someone else. Then forgive yourself, and continued to walk close to Christ Jesus.
Not according to 1 John.
The way to stay out of sin is by not projecting it out upon others. That's covered in Matt 6.14-15
14 “If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. 15 But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Actually, you will 'think' your Father will not forgive your sins.
If you think of others as sinful, you will think of yourself the same way, but it may be hidden in the subconscious. People who think they are sinful will fear retribution from God or the world if they don't believe in God.
"Judge not or you will be judged." That's judgement by yourself because God sees us as He created us, innocent, and in truth, we cannot override God's perfect creation, but the prodigal son thinks he can by making up his own world.
But there are levels of sin.
For example if I routinely murder people or sleep with people that a is higher level of sin than if I, say, get irritated with people on a daily basis. I routinely repent of sin but I am unsure of where I really stand with God. So could I lose salvation because of irritation?
And some things , I don't know if they are sin or not. e.g. Must I consult with God with every small decision in my life? If I don't, is that sin? I am unsure.
Certainly I struggle with sin. But on an every day basis, I am not living in sin.
Nothing is said here about unforgiveness. A few people in my family are alcoholics (I am not) and with 3 members I am estranged. I do forgive them but currently for my sanity, I dont relate to them. I find it difficult to know for sure I have done the right thing. Recently I reread parts of the Gospels and realised Jesus has something to say. about the situation. Sometimes you are the sinner, but sometimes you are sinned against. Jesus addresses both parts, so there is something for me to do.
I am autistic and alexithymic and they cause a significant amount of inner uncertainty in my life. I am now 63. I have never slept with anyone or had a single relationship ever because of A&A. Then again I never hear from God either. And I have been a Christian since 1982.
We have to make a distinction. There is a difference between someone who professed to be a Christian but never truly made that honest decision. This might be a spouse who says, yes I am saved because they want to get married or be accepted by a spouse. But they never were saved. Profession salvation is only part of this process. This is different from someone who made a life change in the heart and had true salvation and is now struggling with sin. You CAN'T lose your salvation if you were ever truly saved.
I married a divorced man who left his first wife in an unbiblical divorce. The marriage was emotional misery and I left him (divorce) 27 years ago. I have been remarried (happily) for 25 years and have two kids. Am I living in sin?
Here are the two sermons to you help understand when you are trusting your faith in Christ, you are forgiven all trespasses and you are complete in Him colossians 2:10-13 and here is an illustration. Christ is the white envelope and you are a penny. When you are in the white envelope, no matter what you do and you seal and forgive all sins.
1. Amazing & Eternal grace 2. Faith, which kind do you have
nope. just keep the 10 commandments and leave christianity
not sure where he's getting the fourth category in 1 corinthians, looking at the passage I'm only seeing 3: unvelievers, mature christians, and newer believers who are addressed as closer to unbelievers because they're not spiritually mature yet. Also, why does NO one EVER go to 1 John on this subject? the second half of chapter 1 and entirety of chapter 3 makes it incredibly clear, especially with the beginning of chapter 2 in mind. 3:9 sums it up pretty well if translated correctly to include the ongoing aspect that the Greek portrays
FYI
Any time a Christian is conscious of his sin, judges the sin and takes sides against it with a penitent heart, then he has a perfect right to trust the Lord for instant, complete forgiveness and for perfect cleansing.
JOHN R. RICE, Hindrances to Prayer
Jesus Christ went to the cross and now lives to set sinful you free from death and hell. Repent and turn your heart to Him before it’s too late. If He calls your heart, say yes!
what did allen mean by disipline actions for the sin that was already committed???
The bible makes it clear, "You cannot live in sin and still be saved." 2 Timothy 2:19 says, “The Lord knows those who are His.” And yet Jesus said, “Every branch IN ME that does not bear fruit He takes away;... “If anyone does not abide IN ME, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned." Therefore, a branch that is IN HIM can be removed from the vine and cast into the fire, and burned (John 15:1-8).
Stop preaching a false Gospel through legalistic interpretation. Broad of viper
Love Alan Parr. I’d say there are 2 types: unbelievers, and Christians who struggle with sin. But don’t use your struggling to justify unrepentance.
I love the lord and hate sin and theres a sin i want to get out of i ask our father every day some times i have to even say to my self if im seperated from jesus through known my sin thats the way it had to be im sick of living in fear and even become sin phobia in the past.
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome. For whoever has been born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world: our faith."
1 John 5:3-4 NASB2020
Don't let anyone tell you that you can live in sin and be saved. The desires of your flesh are your sacrifice to God. They are not holy and never have been. Anyone who tells you that you can still be saved if you live in sin is a liar. Would you forgive someone who stole from you and then apologized only to steal from you again? Eventually you will realize that this person is not really sorry that they stole from you they are simply apologizing to avoid consequences. God is no fool. He will not be mocked. You mock Him when you repent and go and do the same sin over and over. How are you truly sorry if you repent for having sex with someone you are not married to only to get up with the plan of doing the same thing the next day? You are not repentant. You are mocking God and believing He's a fool who will forgive your blatant disregard for His commandments as if you could outsmart your Creator. You don't truly have faith and you are only deceiving yourself.
"But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not just hearers who deceive themselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. But one who has looked intently at the perfect law, the law of freedom, and has continued in it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an active doer, this person will be blessed in what he does."
James 1:22-25 NASB2020
If we are DOING the certain sins mentioned as in Gal. 5 we will NOT enter the kingdom. Whether we feel....bad about it or not. Unless of course we turn back to Christ.
I think its not a matter of "can a Christian struggle with Sin as if its some exceptional situation, but rather of course Christians struggle with sin"
Towards the end, did Allen mean that we will have to face the consequences of our sin in the after life, or that those sins have earthly, physical consequences? A bit of clarity there would be awesome if anyone can answer this for me
if we’re true believers then there’s no condemnation in the after life, but our sin can have consequences on earth
Please help me im in a really bad situatin im realy struggling and doing really bad descustinf sins please help me ive tryed my best to repent of all my descusting sins and descusting thoughts please forgive me father i know ive been doing descusting sins and im so sorry jesus my impure thoughts my lies my stealing fraud drug abuse please help me clairex
Can you claim to be a Christian (saved) and live a life of continuous sin or practice sin? I'm referring to someone who has been "saved" for a long time. If so, what then is the purpose of death of Jesus on the cross.
No, you can't live in sin and still be a Christian. You have to pick a side. God said that he rather for you to be hot or cold. Revelation 3:15-16. When you become a Christian there will be times when you fall but when you do you have to get back up and follow God! Repent and follow GOD.
No, you cant.
If we could loss our salvation we all would .. the end. Please end your legalism
I HATE SIN .
Is smoking a sin?
I would say no, but it is unwise and it isn't God will. You body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, therefore anything that destroy's the temple is unwise and isn't in the will of the Lord.
no. breaking Sabbath and the other 9 is the definition of sin.
Please keep me in your prayers. I have Asked Jesus to save a sinner like me. I know i am not a good person and the only way to heaven is through Jesus. I need prayer bc i keep falling back into the same sin. I have. a couple days where im really into the Word and then i go back into the sin :/ lust is bad and i need Jesus to change my heart. I feel so bad after i fall back into sin.
You must truly repent by putting to death the deeds of the body (Romans 8:13), by cleansing your hands & purifying your heart (James 4:8). You can put the flesh to death through true repentance/godly sorrow (worldly sorrow leads to a sin/repent cycle). You can be free from sin if you abide in Christ & walk in the light (I John 1). God's grace will instruct and teach you how to deny ungodliness & worldly lusts and help you live soberly, righteously, and godly (Titus 2:11-14). Seek Him with the whole heart, my friend, and you will find Him and know the truth. I am a testimony to that!
🤣 Jonathan Kirsch.
A History of the End of the World: How the Most Controversial Book in the Bible Changed the Course of Western Civilization
You can't live in sin and still go to heaven. The wages of sin is death. When you fulfilled the flesh you can't please God.
A believer can quench/grieve the Spirit and even be taken home early for the destruction of the flesh. What you claim is unbiblical.
@@johntrevett2944 Hi John, yes a believer can quench/grieve the Holy Spirit but when we do we must turn to God and ask for help to not do that. If you are a true believer you will hate to sin because you have the holy spirit in you. Believers are not perfect! Only God is. When you do fall, God wants us to get back up and run to Him. PROVERBS 24:16
What I've said is straight from the word of God.
Romans 8:8, Romans 6:23,1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Agreed, those who live in sin will not enter into the kingdom of Heaven and the works of the flesh are manifest
@@ahkilnalls2451 Amen thank you and God bless
@@awillingvessel238 Must or should?
100% NO those who belong to Christ have crucified their flesh with its passions and desires Gal 5:24 the soul that sins it shall die Ezek. For if you live according to the flesh you will die Roman’s 8:13. Jesus has the power to release you from the power of sun that satan has put on you. Who the Son sets free shall be free indeed. John 8:32. If you care about your life go on your knees and pray to Jesus tell Him you are a sinner before Him and that you believe that He is the Christ and He will make you born again of the Holy Spirit which is the only way to be freed from sin and to enter heaven Jesus is the Way, the truth, and the life. John 14:6
-no one who sins has an indwelling Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit will not dwell in a defiled temple.
YAHweh's born again saints cannot sin because they are born of YAHweh -1 John 3:9
1 Peter 4:1 tells us all of YAHweh's born again saints have ceased from sinning.
the children of satan and his ministers continue to sin and try to convince you that you cannot stop sinning -1 John 3:8
salvation truth for you
We don't practice sin, but we can fail..
Lol.
why dose mrs alisa put out these videos that are like 3 or 4 mins long? is this some kind of promotion or something?
Between the two of you I feel you really muddied up the waters. Allen attempts to bring the question within Scriptural context, but I've noticed that the same people that say "You cannot live in sin and still be saved" are the same people are preaching "Eternal Security." It doesn't seem like that's where Allen Par is going, but the Alisa Childers shoots the whole thing down repeating something she's heard, "If you could sin your way out of salvation we all would have dodne it a long time ago." With that remark in the air where is the answer to the question, "Can you live in sin and remain a Christian?" I ask because her statement says "Yes," but I'm pretty sure that's not what Allen said. If you don't know say so.
The bible makes it clear, "You cannot live in sin and still be saved." Paul said to the Corinthians:
"No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? DO NOT BE DECEIVED. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." It's nonsense for so-called pastors to say that Christians cannot turn back to these things. Yes, they can! And, the branch can be removed from the vine and cast into the fire John 15:1-8.
@@aidanmcmanus2752 I agree with you. I'm just wondering why Alisa felt it necessary to make the comment.
@@rockandsandapologetics7254 l think they are both in agreement that a Christian can't lose their salvation.
What is sin?
Anything not of faith is sin.
@@MFaith777 Is there a chapter and verse with that? Lots of people claim faith in something, but even if their faith is placed right does it mean they recognize their own sin? There must be some sort of standard to judge things on correct?
Sin is the opposite of Gods nature. God is perfect and holy, the standard of all good and bad. Sin is basically just evil. We can discern it somewhat what our intellect but we test it with the word of God. If you want to know if something is a sin, pray and see if you can find a scripture that talks about it
@@elijahmcgrath5918 That's the thing, if God is perfect and holy wouldn't He have conveyed that to His people? Where in the Word of God would someone find that?
@@hanzschaggi4254
1 Samuel 2:2
1 peter 1:15-16
Isaiah 57:15
Isaiah 6:3
Psalm 96:6
Exodus 15:11
Revelation 4:8
Psalm 103:1-22
1 john 1:7
Matthew 5:48
Revelation 15:4
1 chronicles 16:29
Isaiah 40:25
Ezekiel 36:23
1 john 1:5
Just to name a few
We're concerned because there's so many scriptures that are specific to Chrsitians are not to sin again or else you never knew Him, that just can't be ignored . The struggle Paul had is highly debated that it is pretense and not past tense salvation wise.
Your either in or out, it seems.
Everything any one tries to quote is either twisted or mis understood as the usual fail is that either they do not read before and after chapters or its pre salvation..
Just like the famous " Any one who says they do not sin ......".
I'd love to hear all evidence on both sides humbly studied like Mike winger usually does. He usually had the answer to all these controversial questions but this is one he admits he doesn't know...... everyone wants to knit pick what fits and ignore the other side???? Why??? What are you scared of?
Ask the thief on the cross.
You focus more on sin than spiritual growth.
Jesus is the way,thru a personal relationship...
There is a shame that comes from the spirit and there is a shame of the world, I would say many in the world have shame at times depending on how far they fall down the hole, Unsaved drug addicts, Prostitute, Sometimes abortions or adultery can cause shame among the unsaved, But if we run to God, Its possible its the shame or sorrow that leads to repentance but there is a sorrow that does not lead to repentance also
Yes. The answer is yes.
Question: If the Bible says not to complain or argue, then are we allowed to argue with people?
Thanks.
we should try to refrain
The only way to overcome sin is by the power of the Holy Spirit which we recieve when we are Born Again.
Scripture says:
Colossians 2:11: "and in Him (Jesus) you were also circumcised with a circumcision performed without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ,"
Jesus removes the flesh nature and we lose sinful desires. Not many people believe in the power of the Holy Spirit to enable them to be righteous and to live righteous. If one is not born again they cannot enter God's kingdom.
Ezekiel ch 44-9
"This is what the Sovereign LORD says: No foreigner uncircumcised in heart and flesh is to enter my sanctuary, not even the foreigners who live among the Israelites."
Those who struggle with sin do not have the Holy Spirit. They are still under the law and they will be judged by the law. They are trying to control their sins on their own because they don't believe that Jesus removes the flesh nature when he baptises us with the Holy Spirit. They deny that the we can live without sin through the power of the Holy Spirit. It is their unbelief in the power of God to deliver them that keeps them from receiving true salvation.
I would say that not only can a Christian struggle with sin but that in fact EVERY human being struggles with sin. Jesus is the only one who struggled with temptation and was without sin and if we accept His sacrifice then that perfection is applied to us.
What matters most is the reaction to sin. I believe a Christian can sin so bad that God will take them out before they can cause more disgrace to the Body of Christ. That is how I read Paul’s exhortation to the Corinthians to stop taking the Lord’s Supper in an unworthy manner. That is the consequence of persistent unrepentant sin for the Christian.
Jonathan Kirsch. The Harlot by the Side of the Road
Please help me,I had a dream that rapture took place and I did not make it to heaven
I have been trying my best to live a righteous life but I keep going back to sin of telling lies etc
Praying for you. Just remember that God is always with you. He is always by your side. This verse has helped me when I felt the same as you. I know how you feel. I'm still battling things too, we all are, but God has led through a lot of things that I thought I couldn't beat and I believe He will keep doing it as long as I am here. And I believe He will and is doing the same for you. God bless.
"No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation, he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it."
1 Corinthians 10:13 ESV
I understand the struggle. We are not righteous by our own deeds but our righteousness is in Jesus Christ. What I did to overcome the beast of sin through God's grace is I fasting for 7 days and presented it onto the Lord, day and night, night and day and I trusted Christ to do it without a shadow of a doubt. Sining is funny at the time but truly there is not true or peace in sin. Read the Bible regularly and watch out for the things that trigger you to sin and obtain from them. He will delivered you when you become sick of the sin A regular lifestyle or fasting and prayer will strengthen you spiritual against that beast of sin. Jesus is able.
You must crucify the flesh with it's passions and desires through a real repentance/godly sorrow and then God's grace will teach you to deny ungodliness & worldy lusts & help you live righteously and godly in this present world...as in NOW. Please search these things out. There is freedom in the truth to those whom seek God with a pure heart.
You didn’t answer the question, you defined sin but not the consequence of unrepentant wilful sin - heaven or hell?
Answers can always be found in Gods word.
“He that overcometh,👈 (sin) the same shall be *clothed* in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.”
{Revelation 3:5}
-->Jesus does not cloth us in *his* righteousness over our filthy rags.
And hereby we do know that we know him, *if* we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is *the love of God* perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
{1 John 2:3-6}
Here is the preserverance of the saints, here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith *of* Jesus.
{Revelation 14:12}
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
{Romans 7:12-14}
The law is like a mirror to a Christian, which the unbeliever doesn't have, because they are not guided by the Holy Spirit.