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Many thanks for this great video - my dad was flight engineer on AH530 and I have his log book that ties up with his Catalina relieving the first one on site. They should make a movie about this story - so much intrigue
That was fascinating. Your research, editing, images, and narration are top tier. Thank you for sharing this piece of history. ps- I never understood why Hollywood chose to butcher and US-wash this British victory. The US has its own capture they could have related, that of the _U-505._ I've toured her four times since I was a kid, and if they had wanted they could have related that battle without being so thoroughly dishonest. I've also toured the _USS Pampanito_ twice. The differences were astonishing, especially in terms of being cramped. The US sub is small, but German sub is positively _tiny_ in comparison (and the _U-505_ is large by German standards of the day).
Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it. I've never been in a sub and don't think I'd like it too much. They all must have been very brave men to endure that!
The lieutenant was in a no win situation. The sub had already been surrendered when he was placed in temporary command, and any actions he took to attempt an evasion or scuttle her would have been contrary to the rules of war. At that point his duty was to safeguard the crew in accordance with the captains orders. Once in custody he was free of such obligations and it was his duty to attempt to escape, so I can’t fault him there, but he really should have accepted that the first attempt had failed and just gone back into captivity.
Can you imagine what these Brits would have thought if they knew what would happen to the country they were fighting for? Today crowds of foreigners threaten the ceremony to remember those Brits,unbelievable! We have let them down to our shame.
Seriously? The people actually threatening he ceremony looked overwhelmingly British to me. As regards the people marching in favour of armistice on Armistice Day (something you are welcome to disagree with, it still being a free country and all), I couldn’t really speak to their nationalities. There were quite a lot of them, after all.
Great video. I really love your work. The tone is excellent. It’s respectful and honest and not mawkish or that awful voyeuristic carnage seeking crap either. History as it’s supposed to be.
18:34 That weapon is a fully automatic Thompson submachine-gun. My older brother had one long ago. It fires the .45 ACP ROUND, a pistol cartridge. Not the .303, which is a more powerful rifle cartridge. This sort of mistake is very unmilitary. 😉
I think your remark is pointless , tasteless and stupid. For every Uboat or ship sunk by Coastal Command cost three aircraft lost. Night patrols were only possible with the advent of better Radar . Day patrols the crews would probably see a great deal that they would be unable to action. Lifeboats full of dead and dying . It wasn't until the Liberator came into service that C.C could become more offensive . The role of the Cats and Sunderlands was Convoy protection , spotting and reporting UBoats shadowing the convoy . Working as a team with the Navy , it led to the destruction of the UBoat arm.
Very fine, much obliged! at age 65(+), first WW2 history book Shirer's, first WW2 vid WatW w/ Sir Larry Olive, love WW2 info w/ Brit anglais - & images w/ corona type face docs
Fascinating, almost incredible story. Great research, thank you for bringing it to us. We can forgive the occasional mismatching of images and text. No need for pedantry :)
Two things strike me when it comes to the Hudson (a) they are insanely underrated compared to so many other RAF aircraft of the War and (b) they did this - and am I right in think some Hudson's also shot down Luftwaffe aircraft too?
Great video - well-researched and factual. Two small pedantic points: submarines are boats, not ships, and the Hudson had a dorsal gun, not a belly one. Keep it up!
Hey Phil, I used to watch your niche site content, glad you’re getting success with this channel. What microphone are you using? The sound is really good 👍🏻
Cheers! It's taken a while, right? 😀 I'm using a Rode Procaster and I plug it directly into a Zoom H5 audio recorder. Apart from my microphone technique, I'm pretty happy with the set up.
@@CalibanRising cool, thank you. Think you made a sensible decision to pivot to YT. I’m trying to do the same, I have a niche site, it did do £10k a year, then £8k last year and probs £5k this year. I think it’s an industry in decline and will soon be even more hammered by AI. If you still watch the likes of Income School, they never show case studies anymore like they used to which kinda hints they aren’t really making any new sites successfully . It’s all about video info now 👍🏻
@@Jd7172g yeah those HCUs just killed my sites. Definitely much harder to build sites than it was even 2 years ago. Hope you make a success of whatever your next project is. 😀
Y’know, from the thumbnail and title alone, I honestly thought for a good few seconds there that this video might be about the events of the Laconia Incident, where a u-boat was preforming humanitarian aid for a ship it sunk and being attacked by an American bomber.
Given the circumstances, I think the commander made the correct decision. The crew was was inexperienced and the boat had too many mechanical problems for its initial patrol. It seems like the panic and damage started so quickly that the breakdown of discipline happened immediately. Even skuttleing wasn’t an option. At least they got it together enough to destroy sensitive documents and information before being picked up. The political and propaganda value of the sub’s capture is noteworthy. Churchill wanting to gift it to the Americans in exchange for continued support, but the military arguing that it would give a shot in the arm to morale to those who suffered the most from the “U-boat menace.” Had the boat not been so close to Iceland it may not have made to port before sinking.
So senior German officers who had already surrendered had the impertinence to sit in judgement of a young front line officer who had been placed in an impossible situation that had been created by other senior German officers who were operating safely, way behind the front line!
When you try to imagine what these young guy's, early 20's mostly, on both sides went through you do wonder what they would think of today's times where the biggest battles are what you should have the right to identify as.
Fascinating account, very interesting being given whole overview picture: court marshal, vessels future us and possible use, prisoner of war camp info and the mention of the much underrated Homeguard, who's actions were spot on.
That’s about the sad truth. My late uncle was a pilot with Coastal Command and flew Sunderlands and Catalinas. Twice he flew Churchill in the Mediterranean.
G'day, Welcome to Jingoistic Nationalistic Patriotic Propaganda... And the Corrosive Effect Such BULLSHIT Ideology Hath Wrought. All War is Always All BULLSHIT. Which is why 20 years after they stop trying to Kill each other..., The Surviving Veterans Begin Sniffing each other out. Writing, Swapping Xmas Cards. After 30 years they start congregating together on the Field of Battle, on the anniversaries, commemorating the Scariest dayze of their youth. After 40 years, the B-52 Aircrew & the NVA SAM Crew Veterans met in Hanoi, for a Dinner Dance in 1992...; remembering the Xmas Bombing, during Vietnam's AmeriKan Waaauughhh(!). And in 1993 the US 8th Air Force Aircrew Veterans and the German Luftwaffe Jagdwaffe Aircrew & FliegerAbwehrKannon ("Flak') Veterans, their wives, children, & grandchildren ; all got together on a Rhine River Barge, to Commemorate 50 years Since "Big Week" In 1943. All the Veterans told Each other's Grandchildren That they never had Any Good reason to have been trying to Kill each other. They all blamed their Parents, Neighbours, Teachers, Clergy, Newspaper Editors & Journalists, Radio Programming & Movie Newsreels. Why Wait Till 20 years after the Killing Stops..., to Recognise the Bullshit Content of Waaauughhh(!) ? Stop NOW...; You stupid 8 Billion Sheeples. Wake up to yourselves. Such is Life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
Just imagine how did go today. Not much dropped our deep charges. Strafed a u boat a couple of times and then took its white flag .you know just a ho.hum day in the cockpit..😂😂
Lol, well they caused their own undoing by continuing on with a faulty submarine, it was a lemon !!!. Go back home for warranty repairs. btw The brits captured an Argentine submarine using helicopters, early on in the "Falklands" war ( but it was some distance away at another island the Argentines captured as a distraction for the Falklands invasion. )
ARA Santa Fe, ex USS Catfish, a WWII Balao class submarine. It wasn't captured by helicopters, rather during the recapture of South Georgia an RN helicopter depth charged it, forcing it to stay on the surface where other RN helicopters shot it up with GPMG's and light anti ship missiles. It limped back into Grytviken where it sank at its mooring with just the shot up conning tower/sail above water.
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Many thanks for this great video - my dad was flight engineer on AH530 and I have his log book that ties up with his Catalina relieving the first one on site. They should make a movie about this story - so much intrigue
Thank you, I really enjoyed your video.
Thank you for watching.
@CalibanRising >>> Great video...👍
Another interesting Aircraft vs Sub story is of Lloyd Trigg, awarded a Victoria Cross based solely on the U-boat captains testimony
Great comment 👍
That was fascinating. Your research, editing, images, and narration are top tier.
Thank you for sharing this piece of history.
ps- I never understood why Hollywood chose to butcher and US-wash this British victory. The US has its own capture they could have related, that of the _U-505._ I've toured her four times since I was a kid, and if they had wanted they could have related that battle without being so thoroughly dishonest.
I've also toured the _USS Pampanito_ twice. The differences were astonishing, especially in terms of being cramped. The US sub is small, but German sub is positively _tiny_ in comparison (and the _U-505_ is large by German standards of the day).
Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it. I've never been in a sub and don't think I'd like it too much. They all must have been very brave men to endure that!
The lieutenant was in a no win situation. The sub had already been surrendered when he was placed in temporary command, and any actions he took to attempt an evasion or scuttle her would have been contrary to the rules of war. At that point his duty was to safeguard the crew in accordance with the captains orders. Once in custody he was free of such obligations and it was his duty to attempt to escape, so I can’t fault him there, but he really should have accepted that the first attempt had failed and just gone back into captivity.
Unfortunately I don't have all the details about his court of honour. He may very well have been facing the death sentence anyway. Poor bloke.
Very well done, well researched and nicely narrated.
Thanks for listening Peter
Can you imagine what these Brits would have thought if they knew what would happen to the country they were fighting for? Today crowds of foreigners threaten the ceremony to remember those Brits,unbelievable! We have let them down to our shame.
The same in australia!!--gutless polititions,-we have "commo's"in power now ! and are we paying for it !
Hear hear!
Seriously? The people actually threatening he ceremony looked overwhelmingly British to me. As regards the people marching in favour of armistice on Armistice Day (something you are welcome to disagree with, it still being a free country and all), I couldn’t really speak to their nationalities. There were quite a lot of them, after all.
Great video. I really love your work. The tone is excellent. It’s respectful and honest and not mawkish or that awful voyeuristic carnage seeking crap either. History as it’s supposed to be.
Thank you for this lovely comment, I really appreciate it.
Vaguely heard of this in a “Warlord” annual.
My uncle was the photograher on the Catalina that escorted the U boat back to Iceland
My Dad was the Engineer on AH530 - was that the Cat you meant ?
18:34
That weapon is a fully automatic Thompson submachine-gun.
My older brother had one long ago.
It fires the .45 ACP ROUND, a pistol cartridge.
Not the .303, which is a more powerful rifle cartridge.
This sort of mistake is very unmilitary. 😉
I just couldn't find a picture of Corporal Jones standing in the right position. I know, I'm a STUPID boy....
Very thankless job generally being in coastal command, I've got a lot of respect for those crews who spent hours without seeing a thing
Hear Hear!
I think your remark is pointless , tasteless and stupid. For every Uboat or ship sunk by Coastal Command cost three aircraft lost. Night patrols were only possible with the advent of better Radar . Day patrols the crews would probably see a great deal that they would be unable to action. Lifeboats full of dead and dying . It wasn't until the Liberator came into service that C.C could become more offensive . The role of the Cats and Sunderlands was Convoy protection , spotting and reporting UBoats shadowing the convoy . Working as a team with the Navy , it led to the destruction of the UBoat arm.
I think you misread the intent of the OP’s comment.
Great story.
Thanks for listening
Excellent!!
Many thanks!
I believe there is a James Follett Saturday night theatre radio play based on this story..".the U-boat that lost its nerve",was the title, I think
Very fine, much obliged! at age 65(+), first WW2 history book Shirer's, first WW2 vid WatW w/ Sir Larry Olive, love WW2 info w/ Brit anglais - & images w/ corona type face docs
Fascinating, almost incredible story. Great research, thank you for bringing it to us. We can forgive the occasional mismatching of images and text. No need for pedantry :)
Thanks for watching!
Two things strike me when it comes to the Hudson (a) they are insanely underrated compared to so many other RAF aircraft of the War and (b) they did this - and am I right in think some Hudson's also shot down Luftwaffe aircraft too?
A very vital fighting machine to be sure.
Great video - well-researched and factual. Two small pedantic points: submarines are boats, not ships, and the Hudson had a dorsal gun, not a belly one. Keep it up!
Thanks for the corrections. I'm definitely not a naval man and I think I was running out of nouns by this point. Good to know.
The 428 Mk lll Hudsons had a retractable ventral gun.
nice..glad i found this...new2U
Thanks for watching.
What a story. Squadron Leader Thompson was my Great Uncle!
You should be very proud of that!
The navigator Jack Coleman was my uncle
Hey Phil, I used to watch your niche site content, glad you’re getting success with this channel. What microphone are you using? The sound is really good 👍🏻
Cheers! It's taken a while, right? 😀 I'm using a Rode Procaster and I plug it directly into a Zoom H5 audio recorder. Apart from my microphone technique, I'm pretty happy with the set up.
@@CalibanRising cool, thank you. Think you made a sensible decision to pivot to YT. I’m trying to do the same, I have a niche site, it did do £10k a year, then £8k last year and probs £5k this year. I think it’s an industry in decline and will soon be even more hammered by AI. If you still watch the likes of Income School, they never show case studies anymore like they used to which kinda hints they aren’t really making any new sites successfully . It’s all about video info now 👍🏻
@@Jd7172g yeah those HCUs just killed my sites. Definitely much harder to build sites than it was even 2 years ago. Hope you make a success of whatever your next project is. 😀
Y’know, from the thumbnail and title alone, I honestly thought for a good few seconds there that this video might be about the events of the Laconia Incident, where a u-boat was preforming humanitarian aid for a ship it sunk and being attacked by an American bomber.
Ah, the Laconia incident? Thanks for the feedback, maybe it's a bit confusing.
@@CalibanRising, sorry… it was the Laconia Incident, my mistake. The “L”s confuse me sometimes.
Footage from the amazing war film U-571 included!
And Das Boot!
By referring to the movie U571 as 'amazing, I assume you mean 'amazingly bad?'
@@dovetonsturdee7033
I meant Das Boot! Oops.
@@brianjones3191 Fair enough. The movie was excellent. Sadly the later TV series certainly isn't.
@@dovetonsturdee7033
Agreed. I couldn’t get into the series either.
Given the circumstances, I think the commander made the correct decision. The crew was was inexperienced and the boat had too many mechanical problems for its initial patrol. It seems like the panic and damage started so quickly that the breakdown of discipline happened immediately. Even skuttleing wasn’t an option. At least they got it together enough to destroy sensitive documents and information before being picked up. The political and propaganda value of the sub’s capture is noteworthy. Churchill wanting to gift it to the Americans in exchange for continued support, but the military arguing that it would give a shot in the arm to morale to those who suffered the most from the “U-boat menace.” Had the boat not been so close to Iceland it may not have made to port before sinking.
So senior German officers who had already surrendered had the impertinence to sit in judgement of a young front line officer who had been placed in an impossible situation that had been created by other senior German officers who were operating safely, way behind the front line!
When you try to imagine what these young guy's, early 20's mostly, on both sides went through you do wonder what they would think of today's times where the biggest battles are what you should have the right to identify as.
They were the greatest generation now we have the greatly entitled generation.
Fascinating account, very interesting being given whole overview picture: court marshal, vessels future us and possible use, prisoner of war camp info and the mention of the much underrated Homeguard, who's actions were spot on.
That’s about the sad truth. My late uncle was a pilot with Coastal Command and flew Sunderlands and Catalinas. Twice he flew Churchill in the Mediterranean.
@@markshrimpton3138. My great Uncle was also on Sunderland's. He was either engineer or gunner.
G'day,
Welcome to
Jingoistic
Nationalistic
Patriotic
Propaganda...
And the
Corrosive
Effect
Such
BULLSHIT
Ideology
Hath
Wrought.
All War is
Always
All
BULLSHIT.
Which is why
20 years after they stop trying to
Kill each other...,
The Surviving Veterans
Begin
Sniffing each other out.
Writing,
Swapping Xmas Cards.
After 30 years they start congregating together on the Field of Battle, on the anniversaries, commemorating the
Scariest dayze of their youth.
After 40 years, the B-52 Aircrew & the NVA SAM Crew Veterans met in Hanoi, for a Dinner Dance in 1992...; remembering the Xmas Bombing, during Vietnam's AmeriKan Waaauughhh(!).
And in 1993 the US 8th Air Force Aircrew Veterans and the German Luftwaffe Jagdwaffe Aircrew & FliegerAbwehrKannon ("Flak')
Veterans, their wives, children, & grandchildren ; all got together on a Rhine River Barge, to
Commemorate
50 years
Since
"Big Week"
In 1943.
All the Veterans told
Each other's Grandchildren
That they never had
Any
Good reason to have been trying to
Kill each other.
They all blamed their
Parents,
Neighbours,
Teachers, Clergy,
Newspaper Editors & Journalists,
Radio Programming &
Movie Newsreels.
Why
Wait
Till 20 years after the
Killing
Stops..., to
Recognise the
Bullshit Content of
Waaauughhh(!) ?
Stop
NOW...;
You stupid 8 Billion
Sheeples.
Wake up to yourselves.
Such is Life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
👍👍👍
If a film of this was made today, no doubt it would be fully diversified.
Do you mean that the American captain would be Black .
Peanut
Why the sad animation of a 1960s Chinese sub?
In all this 'generic footage', I even discovered a Dutch (Netherlands) submarine!
Please be more careful...
Yep, I tried to slip that by you. Unfortunately there is very little public domain footage I can use legally, so we have to just make do.
Yea you cant be surrendering to an airplane.... that doesn't make any sensse.
Pity you show the wrong sub under water. Rip off!
You're right Robert. Unfortunately Hans the camera guy dropped his film overboard when U-570 was captured.
Just imagine how did go today. Not much dropped our deep charges. Strafed a u boat a couple of times and then took its white flag .you know just a ho.hum day in the cockpit..😂😂
Lol, well they caused their own undoing by continuing on with a faulty submarine, it was a lemon !!!. Go back home for warranty repairs. btw The brits captured an Argentine submarine using helicopters, early on in the "Falklands" war ( but it was some distance away at another island the Argentines captured as a distraction for the Falklands invasion. )
I'm going to read up on that, thanks for bringing it up.
ARA Santa Fe, ex USS Catfish, a WWII Balao class submarine. It wasn't captured by helicopters, rather during the recapture of South Georgia an RN helicopter depth charged it, forcing it to stay on the surface where other RN helicopters shot it up with GPMG's and light anti ship missiles. It limped back into Grytviken where it sank at its mooring with just the shot up conning tower/sail above water.
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No one cares .
@@Justme-xw4gs you care and this was a bait to ask you if you played portal?
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