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You guys often have little factual errors and this episode takes it. Complete w photo of the wrong President. It makes me wonder what other points you are in too much of a hurry to verify, motivating you to just assume something. You presume to present facts. Please then work like real journalists.
@crackabarrel dude! What's your ish? Are you bored or something? So they put up a photograph of the wrong President. It's kind of an understandable mistake given their last name / family relations and the fact that Theodore Roosevelt did in fact have a son (Brigadier General Theodore Roosevelt III) serving in the war in the same theater as then Colonel Elliott Roosevelt. A mistake to be sure, but not one worthy of all this vitriol. Secondly, Howard Hughes was absolutely a genius. He was also completely nuts. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, in my experience they often go hand-in-hand. I have lived and worked in Las Vegas for many years. I have worked with people who knew the Hughes family and Howard himself. There's a lot that has been written about him over the years, but I've asked multiple people with first-hand knowledge of the family about him because I have always been fascinated with Aviation and his contributions to it. Their responses vary slightly but the theme is consistent. The most brilliant person they've ever known, also crazy. In fact my favorite characterization was, "Howard was someone who just didn't belong in society. Too many expectations that he could not meet." Yes, I suspect it's true that many of his conditions went undiagnosed at the time that in today's discussion of Mental Health would be identifiable and treatable. But this is not the venue to have that kind of discussion. So why don't we dial back and all the tattle tailing and stuff. Just enjoy the video. Or don't and move on.
He also fell into recreational drug use which caused an excaberation of his anxiety and ocd. Many brilliant men have fallen into similar fates, but if you choose to focus only on their contributionss to society instead of their human foibles, you run into the problems with school textbooks and "wokeisim". It's wholly appropriate to remember that we're all human, and aren't perfect. Children don't need fairy tales to shelter them from reality.
he was the one that said your afraid to take the chance, fine I will..... lot of innovation came from him.. simply because he wasnt afraid of a mistake he new who inevidably get correct,,,, hence we learn from ou8r mistakes or were bound to repeat them :-)
@@RustyStringz wokeisim, like can we stop use MAGA troll language and Trump voters that watch Murdoch's gutter trash news Fox? Not American but its the most shit term used by Conservative scum that has picked up around the world.
Well, I've put up with a lot of silliness from this site, but the contention that Theodore Roosevelt was president during the 1940's is my limit. I'm outta here.
Howard Hughes was NOT insane. I have read many biographies of Hughes, because I admire him a lot, and the doctrors concur the problems with Hughes was thet he had a severe case of OCD and had we had medication around them like Prozac, Fluoxetine Hydrochloride, he would have been just fine. The man was actually brilliant.
That title is a lot over the top. Hughes was not insane at the time of these events. His issues began after these events. I understand you need to attract views, and sensational titles help, however, there is no need to be grossly inaccurate.
Agree 100%. This is Dark Skies, not some sensationalist media channel. We love you for your docs, for the information on beautiful aircraft. Don’t start selling out for clicks. Howard Hughes is a legend. Respect the man
@@jdbarnes5987 by medical standards today, he was insane. insanity can manifest in a variety of forms: me being an insomniac makes me insane... so what? Severe OCD is a severe mental illness. in·san·i·ty noun the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
Howard Hughes was not insane by any means. He was eccentric it is true, but his place in history may consider him as an "original" and an innovator. I often think that if he and Kelly Johnson had partnered up we would have had some amazing aircraft in the 50s.
@@user-ef2bx9fb4y Not necessarily. He was eccentric and probably had a lot of mistrust for people. Maybe he didn't want his DNA anywhere he couldn't control because he feared being cloned.
@TheGospelQuartetParadise : If you think d.n.a. testing and analysis was around during WW2, your as nuts as Hughes. Human d.n.a. was not mapped out until 2003. Saving your pee is just disgusting.
I have read a couple of NACA reports on how to improve the P-38 to increase its critical mach speed and they largely described the design of the XF-11 The proposed change had a lot to do with avoiding rapid changes in cross section and streamlining the engine pods/pylons and the cockpit pod. It basically pre-dated the Whitcomb Area Rule by over a decade.
Man, I wish you guys would proofread your content and fact-check for errors prior to your releases! 5:30 - Theodore Roosevelt was not the 'then president' in 1943 and the fact that you posted Teddy's picture makes the error even more egregious!!! This may be obvious to most, but it exposes a lack of care with your production values and harms your credibility! You tend to make errors that are obvious, yet are allowed through. Get better!!!
Easy mistake to make, he probably confused Leonardo DiCaprio with the real Howard Hughes and from what I’ve seen of DiCaprio I can see why the author saw insanity!
It’s only ridiculously expensive because it’s a prototype. Build enough of them and they become cheap. This could have been a very effective heavy fighter and Howard Hughes was an innovative genius. Prototypes often crash until the bugs are sorted out.
However with the delays and non wartime skill of his shops, by the time it was ready the war was over and the long range fighter need was over, as the stratobomber couldn't easily be reached by Zeros and Mitsubishi fighters. There were several planes that could serve the purpose already in production, and thousands of airframes were being parked in Arizona as the occupation years USAAF didn't need them True it could have been used in Korea, but in 1946...there was no Korean war and jets were taking over by then.
Could have was the key phrase. It’s obvious now that 1946 was too late for prop development but the design was sound. Pretty sure Hughes wasn’t considering imminent obsolescence when he started out. We have the benefit of hindsight and early jets were problematic. The F7 Tigercat was still in limited service in 1953, the Griffon Spitfires , Sea Furies, Corsairs, Skyraiders and many other prop planes still had secondary roles until much later. So yeah, could have.
@@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus it was pretty obvious that this is a civilian race plane looking for a purpose in the USAAF because the war made it impossible for civ aviation to keep innovating for their own purposes. Plus the War Department had deep pockets in 1942.
One of the three houses Hughes crashed into was that of actress Rosemary DeCamp. Rosemary co-started in the Bob Cummings show. Cummings was something of an aviation pioneer: He was taught to fly by his godfather, Orville Wright, and held the first issued civilian pilot trainers' license.
@@Matt.Thompson.1976 Bob was quite the aviation buff. His second Bob Cummings Show would feature an Aerocar. The first Bob Cummings Show was also the first ever summer replacement series.
@@Matt.Thompson.1976 The first production C-69 Constellation 43-10310 was piloted by Howard Hughes and Jack Frye on a speed run across the U.S. from Lockheed (Burbank,Cal.) on 17 April 1944. When the aircraft arrived at Wright Field in Ohio, Orville Wright was there, and he was invited to fly along on a 50 minute flight. source / images: This Day In Aviation 26 April 1944. Hughes Research Labs (HRL) and other facilities were located in Culver City,Ca.(business reasons) along with the main plant and runway. HRL moved to Malibu - a spectacular campus behind Pepperdine Univ. Hughes built helicopters,too.
Howard Hughes was far from insane. I worked (at times) for him and Art Collins and both were geniuses. Mr. Hughes flight of the P-61 left him injured for life and the complications left him an object of ridicule. He is still a pioneer worthy of note in the same vein as Art Collins (whom I knew as an employer) and Seymour Cray. If you don't know who I'm talking about, look them up.
5:40 - Elliott Roosevelt is the son of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the 32nd U.S. President (1933-1945), not of Theodore Roosevelt who was the 26th U.S. President (1901 - 1909) and had already died in 1919...
Mad respect for people that make awsome stuff and use it . Remember, your homeboy Hughes used to test fly his own designs before he would put another pilot in danger. The only people that worried were rich , the rest of us still cheer that man on .
"...then President, Theodore..." Really? Pretty sure AI is writing your scripts. Either that, or you are trolling. In any event, these constant errors have cost you a subscriber.
Am tiring of these blatant inaccuracies. Am becoming less likely to bother with this needlessly dramatic content. Am better off with Rex's Hanger and his well researched content.
@@DrivermanOLarge sections of text (and the general order of presentation) are taken directly from Wikipedia articles. Seriously: check out the article on the Hughes XF-11: you'll see a lot of verbatim quotes.
Hughes was NOT INSANE, not even close. He was a test pilot but not school trained as a test pilot. He was told of an oil leak and to be back on the ground within 45 minutes. He should never have been released to go fIy that flight until that Ieak was fixed.
He was not insane. What he was was brilliant and in incredibly stiff competition both in business and with the gov't. When pretty much everyone is against you, you tend to act oddly. I think he gets the dirty end of the stick from pretty much every biography of him done these days.
As a lover of aviation, Howard has always been a hero of mine. As others have already stated, such a beautiful aircraft. Long live the pioneering aviation spirit of Howard Hughes.
"was met by the son of the then President, Theodore Roosevelt". I think not; Teddy's nephew was president from 1932 till his death in 1944. That father was Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
Dark Skies is the Disney of military history. It is fun to watch with lots of cool video, but the narrative should be ignored as any type of reputable history. Enjoy this channel, but don't legitimize it as a source of historical fact.
If this one had been modified to take turbojets and wings re-profiled for high altitude operation, then it would have been useful as post-WW2 reconnassaince aircraft.
A true aviation masterpiece. One of the most beautiful prop planes to take to the skies in my opinion. He was a great aviator who history just did not understand because of his fight with mental illness.
He compares well with Thomas Edison too, as Edison was really his inspirational historical figure, as he noted in a few interviews. He named his car line Tesla to play on the emotions and fantasy hype of the turn of the century internet Tesla obsessed....figuring they would premarket his car for him fie free. It worked.
Historical inaccuracy: the commentator says Col. Roosevelt presented a recommendation to Air Force General Arnold in 1943. The U.S. Air Force did not exist until 1947. What he might have meant was the US Army Air Corps, not Air Force.
Hughes was certainly NOT insane at this time. There we can have debates over his sanity later in his life, but at this time I believe he was in his mental prime !
Howard Hughes was a great American and a brilliant aircraft designer. Calling him an "insane man" is like calling your videos historical documentaries.
The one thing I take issue with here is labeling Hughes insane. He was rather eccentric and focused rather hard on his work, but he definitely wasn't insane.
I don't like the sloppy (at best) and 'click bait' way this channel reports on historical events. Howard Hughes suffered from end-stage syphillis which altered/diminshed his mental capacity, technically not insanity but that's a subtle distinction which I am willing to concede. The rub is that this occurred 25-30 years after he designed the aircraft which is the subject of this video. The aircraft was designed by a man who EVENTUALLY went "insane"; it was not designed by an insane man.
Recent theories run towards him suffering from a closed head injury after the crash landing. Without proper diagnosis and treatment, more extreme aspects of his personality came to the forefront more frequently.
An amazing looking aircraft with almost no military use except, perhaps, as a high speed photo recon platform. O.K.... who is going to put out a 1/48 kit?
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Hughes was NOT insane: he suffered brain injuries in this crash that there was little knowkedge of at the time, and he wasn't properly treated as a result. He even designed what became the modern hospital bed, while he was recovering, because he couldn't sleep in the bed that he was in. Just another of his many accomplishments. He had a mild case of O.C.D. that became exaggerated after the crash, but he made it very clear that he was still running the show. Ironically, the P&WR 4360's went on to be often problematic engines in every application they were used in. The prime example is the Boeing 377.
His autopsy revealed a whole bunch of broken off hypodermic needles in his arms legs and lower back. His doctor broke off half of the shots given to him. That must have been awful, the pain just moving your body and the doctor repeats the mistake. At what point is it no longer a mistake?
What we should care about is that he was spending his own money and risking his own life. This video's underhanded title does not help this channel in my view. Strike one.
@5:32 There is an important error in the narration and the accompanying visuals: Brigadier General Elliot Roosevelt (he would attain that rank before retiring) was not the son of 26th U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt (whose photo is also erroneously displayed @5:38) but the son of the then incumbent and 32nd U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Just a minor mistake in an otherwise brilliant mini-documentary about this unique aircraft and its relevance in world's aviation history, yet worth pointing out for the sake of accuracy.
I bet the backroom politics and kick backs from Hughes competitors had a lot to do with the delays. The probably figured they'd let Hughes do the rough work and if it worked they'd get him to subcontract some of the work out or take the designs the government paid for and transfer them to another company. Kind of like they did to the guy who designed and built the original Jeep. Loved the video. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
No, he’ll still be innovating and pushing the limits human exploration and knowledge. He will still be wealthy and relevant. You however, will be irrelevant, and probably living a life of quiet desperation, statistically probably divorced, and doomed to die in complete obscurity.
@@haveaday1812 He'll milk a billion dollars from the government to develop a car for his failed tunnel that will go 60 miles an hour max and it will be called the Excuse Caboose.
Mr. Hughes was a brilliant man and contributed more to aviation than you ever could. Bashing him and the plane that was experimental and radically new at the time. Keep this up will unsubscribe from your channel. Matter of fact just did.
One of the few episodes that I've seen errors on your channel. You stated Elliot Roosevelt was son of the SITTING PRESIDENT Theodore Roosevelt. Whoops !!!!! Still love your work !!!
It's hard to fault the guy. Probably dumped a fortune. Wood is obviously unusable. The Moquito, an excellent aircraft, the waking nightmare of Nazis, proved that. So fast, it won't need guns. Mount guns immediately. The similarity to the lightning is mere happenstance, obviously. Thank you. You poured your heart, soul, fortune into the project. You made a difference, young man. Well done.
They got me. My last time though. Hack analyzing info for the video. The moment I hear "The Stupid" I stop watching. Did the plane crash? I gave up because the TH-camrs have no respect for their audience.
Hughes wasnt insane. Way too many errors in this one, especially ignoring that Lockheed really WAS stealing Hughes designs and used the military to do it.
So he started this project in 1937, ok, not too bad... but then finished it in 1946??.... whats that, 9 years? He is still messing with this been done design even after watching the Lockheed P-38 Lightning And the de Havilland D.H.98 Mosquito win the war, and still messing with this now obsolete nonsense 2 years after the Me 262 appeared over the skies in Germany... like WFT dude?? Just wow... certainly gives new meaning to the phrase 'Johnny Come Lately' What makes more sense is that Howard Hughes was just not that enthusiastic about the project because of the success of the Lockheed P-38 .... he may have put on a show of being enthusiastic as a good business man, but that's about it. See, for the enthusiastic developer, problems are things to quickly overcome, for the non enthusiastic developer problems are excuses for delays.
5:17 Why are we looking at footage of a Hughes AIM-4 Falcon missle control surface test when this video is supposed to be about the XR/XF-11? Odd to say the least.
5:38 I'm pretty sure Teddy Roosevelt was not President at this time. He was in office from 1901 to 1909. I think his cousin was president at that time.
You mentioned, rear propeller @09:47, and again @10:26, the right rear, propeller. What rear propellers??? Howard was fortunate as in not, to kill innocent people, on the ground. Insane man?? You'd have to be, to hang out with 'Katherine'🤭.
Aviation aside, wealth aside, Hughes is a case study in what comes out the other end when you forcefeed a child's mind with a topic you don't understand, filling in the blanks with overzealous scrutiny.
Elliot Roosevelt was the son of Franklin D Roosevelt who was president at that time, he was not Theodore Roosevelt's son. Theodore Roosevelt had passed away decades earlier.
Reference, time: 5:40 "Son of then President Theodore Roosevelt" Correction: "....Then President Franklin D Roosevelt" (Theodore Roosevelt was long dead at this point having died in 1919)
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Came looking for this comment, thanks
You guys often have little factual errors and this episode takes it. Complete w photo of the wrong President. It makes me wonder what other points you are in too much of a hurry to verify, motivating you to just assume something.
You presume to present facts. Please then work like real journalists.
You can thank H.H. for satillite tv.
@crackabarrel dude! What's your ish? Are you bored or something? So they put up a photograph of the wrong President. It's kind of an understandable mistake given their last name / family relations and the fact that Theodore Roosevelt did in fact have a son (Brigadier General Theodore Roosevelt III) serving in the war in the same theater as then Colonel Elliott Roosevelt. A mistake to be sure, but not one worthy of all this vitriol.
Secondly, Howard Hughes was absolutely a genius. He was also completely nuts. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, in my experience they often go hand-in-hand. I have lived and worked in Las Vegas for many years. I have worked with people who knew the Hughes family and Howard himself. There's a lot that has been written about him over the years, but I've asked multiple people with first-hand knowledge of the family about him because I have always been fascinated with Aviation and his contributions to it. Their responses vary slightly but the theme is consistent. The most brilliant person they've ever known, also crazy. In fact my favorite characterization was, "Howard was someone who just didn't belong in society. Too many expectations that he could not meet."
Yes, I suspect it's true that many of his conditions went undiagnosed at the time that in today's discussion of Mental Health would be identifiable and treatable. But this is not the venue to have that kind of discussion. So why don't we dial back and all the tattle tailing and stuff. Just enjoy the video. Or don't and move on.
DiCaprio's movie about Hughes is very good for whoever wants to dig in, in this particular event and a have general notion about Hughes life.
Howard Hughes was anything but insane when it came to aeronautics.
It sounds more like he was absolutely a brilliant innovator, and was impatient with the slow, methodical pace of the design and production processes.
But he sure wasn't practical.
He also fell into recreational drug use which caused an excaberation of his anxiety and ocd.
Many brilliant men have fallen into similar fates, but if you choose to focus only on their contributionss to society instead of their human foibles, you run into the problems with school textbooks and "wokeisim".
It's wholly appropriate to remember that we're all human, and aren't perfect. Children don't need fairy tales to shelter them from reality.
he was the one that said your afraid to take the chance, fine I will..... lot of innovation came from him.. simply because he wasnt afraid of a mistake he new who inevidably get correct,,,, hence we learn from ou8r mistakes or were bound to repeat them :-)
@@RustyStringz wokeisim, like can we stop use MAGA troll language and Trump voters that watch Murdoch's gutter trash news Fox? Not American but its the most shit term used by Conservative scum that has picked up around the world.
Well, I've put up with a lot of silliness from this site, but the contention that Theodore Roosevelt was president during the 1940's is my limit. I'm outta here.
Yea that’s a big goof
Howard Hughes was NOT insane. I have read many biographies of Hughes, because I admire him a lot, and the doctrors concur the problems with Hughes was thet he had a severe case of OCD and had we had medication around them like Prozac, Fluoxetine Hydrochloride, he would have been just fine. The man was actually brilliant.
While he was able to keep it in check, the OCD drove him to focus on some of his finest work.
I read in a medical journal his final diagnosis was multiple serious head injuries multiplied whatever else was wrong
Ty!
"Normal" is boring anyway!!
OCD is a clinical psychosis. He was insane.
Huge error! You have the wrong Roosevelt. Theodor was President 40 years before, FDR is who you wanted to mention.
Correct.
Need someone to fact check the script.
Not huge
This is the Dark series. Facts don't matter.
@@kenttheboomer721that's bs
That title is a lot over the top. Hughes was not insane at the time of these events. His issues began after these events.
I understand you need to attract views, and sensational titles help, however, there is no need to be grossly inaccurate.
I guess it just depends how fast and lose you are playing with the word insane.😂
Agree 100%. This is Dark Skies, not some sensationalist media channel. We love you for your docs, for the information on beautiful aircraft. Don’t start selling out for clicks. Howard Hughes is a legend. Respect the man
@@jdbarnes5987 by medical standards today, he was insane. insanity can manifest in a variety of forms: me being an insomniac makes me insane... so what? Severe OCD is a severe mental illness.
in·san·i·ty
noun
the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
Howard Hughes was not insane by any means. He was eccentric it is true, but his place in history may consider him as an "original" and an innovator. I often think that if he and Kelly Johnson had partnered up we would have had some amazing aircraft in the 50s.
THANK YOU!
@@user-ef2bx9fb4y Not necessarily. He was eccentric and probably had a lot of mistrust for people. Maybe he didn't want his DNA anywhere he couldn't control because he feared being cloned.
@TheGospelQuartetParadise : If you think d.n.a. testing and analysis was around during WW2, your as nuts as Hughes. Human d.n.a. was not mapped out until 2003. Saving your pee is just disgusting.
Yes he was brilliant, and yes he was mentally ill.
He was undoubtedly mentally infirm and not of sound mind, he was not sane
I have read a couple of NACA reports on how to improve the P-38 to increase its critical mach speed and they largely described the design of the XF-11 The proposed change had a lot to do with avoiding rapid changes in cross section and streamlining the engine pods/pylons and the cockpit pod. It basically pre-dated the Whitcomb Area Rule by over a decade.
Man, I wish you guys would proofread your content and fact-check for errors prior to your releases!
5:30 - Theodore Roosevelt was not the 'then president' in 1943 and the fact that you posted Teddy's picture makes the error even more egregious!!!
This may be obvious to most, but it exposes a lack of care with your production values and harms your credibility!
You tend to make errors that are obvious, yet are allowed through.
Get better!!!
US Aircraft design " Law " . You can't build a Successful and Fast Warplane out of Wood .
De Havilland Mosquito : " Hold my Beer " .
Hughes wasn't insane, he had sever OCD, and a lot of his really odd behavior began after this crash
Ty!
Easy mistake to make, he probably confused Leonardo DiCaprio with the real Howard Hughes and from what I’ve seen of DiCaprio I can see why the author saw insanity!
@@chrish5791what on earth are u babbling about?
If Howard had gotten help to overcome his drug addiction, no telling what he could have innovated in the following years.
Yes OCD is a mental illness
It’s only ridiculously expensive because it’s a prototype. Build enough of them and they become cheap. This could have been a very effective heavy fighter and Howard Hughes was an innovative genius. Prototypes often crash until the bugs are sorted out.
However with the delays and non wartime skill of his shops, by the time it was ready the war was over and the long range fighter need was over, as the stratobomber couldn't easily be reached by Zeros and Mitsubishi fighters.
There were several planes that could serve the purpose already in production, and thousands of airframes were being parked in Arizona as the occupation years USAAF didn't need them
True it could have been used in Korea, but in 1946...there was no Korean war and jets were taking over by then.
Often? More often than not.
@@STho205 In Korea they were already facing Mig`s. Even other jets like F-84 and F-80 were having troubles with them, let alone prop plane.
Could have was the key phrase. It’s obvious now that 1946 was too late for prop development but the design was sound. Pretty sure Hughes wasn’t considering imminent obsolescence when he started out. We have the benefit of hindsight and early jets were problematic. The F7 Tigercat was still in limited service in 1953, the Griffon Spitfires , Sea Furies, Corsairs, Skyraiders and many other prop planes still had secondary roles until much later. So yeah, could have.
@@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus it was pretty obvious that this is a civilian race plane looking for a purpose in the USAAF because the war made it impossible for civ aviation to keep innovating for their own purposes.
Plus the War Department had deep pockets in 1942.
One of the three houses Hughes crashed into was that of actress Rosemary DeCamp. Rosemary co-started in the Bob Cummings show. Cummings was something of an aviation pioneer: He was taught to fly by his godfather, Orville Wright, and held the first issued civilian pilot trainers' license.
Thanks for that. Very interesting bit of the history of this incident, largely not talked about. Small world indeed.
@@Matt.Thompson.1976 Bob was quite the aviation buff. His second Bob Cummings Show would feature an Aerocar. The first Bob Cummings Show was also the first ever summer replacement series.
@@Matt.Thompson.1976 The first production C-69 Constellation 43-10310 was piloted by Howard Hughes and Jack Frye on a speed run across the U.S. from Lockheed (Burbank,Cal.) on 17 April 1944. When the aircraft arrived at Wright Field in Ohio, Orville Wright was there, and he was invited to fly along on a 50 minute flight. source / images: This Day In Aviation 26 April 1944. Hughes Research Labs (HRL) and other facilities were located in Culver City,Ca.(business reasons) along with the main plant and runway. HRL moved to Malibu - a spectacular campus behind Pepperdine Univ. Hughes built helicopters,too.
Howard Hughes was far from insane. I worked (at times) for him and Art Collins and both were geniuses. Mr. Hughes flight of the P-61 left him injured for life and the complications left him an object of ridicule. He is still a pioneer worthy of note in the same vein as Art Collins (whom I knew as an employer) and Seymour Cray. If you don't know who I'm talking about, look them up.
How exactly did Hughes and Cray intersect? Or are you saying you knew them each separately? Also, how old are you?
5:40 - Elliott Roosevelt is the son of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the 32nd U.S. President (1933-1945), not of Theodore Roosevelt who was the 26th U.S. President (1901 - 1909) and had already died in 1919...
Mad respect for people that make awsome stuff and use it . Remember, your homeboy Hughes used to test fly his own designs before he would put another pilot in danger. The only people that worried were rich , the rest of us still cheer that man on .
"...then President, Theodore..." Really? Pretty sure AI is writing your scripts. Either that, or you are trolling.
In any event, these constant errors have cost you a subscriber.
I think he's doing it on purpose to get people to comment about it in return it helps the algorithm😅
Am tiring of these blatant inaccuracies. Am becoming less likely to bother with this needlessly dramatic content.
Am better off with Rex's Hanger and his well researched content.
Agreed. I’m done
Dark Sky's is really taking it in the groin today
WRONG. HUGHES was a genius . Oil bits, underwire bras, hospital beds that articulate…. A bit odd but insane….not even close. Talent to the end!
Hughes was a genius in ways and one-man engineering firm. He just wasn't a proper test pilot with strict and careful rules.
This man is a legend.
Indeed he is - for getting facts and pictures wrong!
@@DrivermanO not many facts are wrong, and its difficult to find stuff on the XF-11. Using P-38s is fine at times because it took inspiration from it
@@thesnazzycomet No? President of USA in WW2 was Theodore Roosevelt - with a picture of him? Really? Can't get much more wrong than that!
@@DrivermanOLarge sections of text (and the general order of presentation) are taken directly from Wikipedia articles. Seriously: check out the article on the Hughes XF-11: you'll see a lot of verbatim quotes.
Eccentric? Somewhat. Insane? No. Brilliant? Absolutely.
Hughes was NOT INSANE, not even close. He was a test pilot but not school trained as a test pilot. He was told of an oil leak and to be back on the ground within 45 minutes. He should never have been released to go fIy that flight until that Ieak was fixed.
I had not known about the post-crash XF/XR-11 aircraft.
Thank you for that information.
He was not insane. What he was was brilliant and in incredibly stiff competition both in business and with the gov't. When pretty much everyone is against you, you tend to act oddly. I think he gets the dirty end of the stick from pretty much every biography of him done these days.
Theodore Roosevelt also wasn't president in the 1940s. That was Franklin Roosevelt, Teddy's distant cousin.
Nice looking plane.
Theodor Roosevelt was not the President during WW2. Franklin Roosevelt was. Ol' Teddy wasn't even alive then.
As a lover of aviation, Howard has always been a hero of mine. As others have already stated, such a beautiful aircraft. Long live the pioneering aviation spirit of Howard Hughes.
Pretty plane
Hughes wasn't insane! How about an eccentric genius?
the difference between eccentricity and insanity is often wealth.
My Dad served in Army Air Corps. I never heard him, or anyone else refer to it as the 'USAAC', it's always the 'Army Air Corps'.
"was met by the son of the then President, Theodore Roosevelt". I think not; Teddy's nephew was president from 1932 till his death in 1944. That father was Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
5:37 - Son of THEN president Teddy Roosevelt? Who died in 1919? Keep your Roosevelts straight!
Dark Skies is the Disney of military history. It is fun to watch with lots of cool video, but the narrative should be ignored as any type of reputable history. Enjoy this channel, but don't legitimize it as a source of historical fact.
It's no worse than Wikipedia. Just less well funded.
@@wrecklass 🤣
If this one had been modified to take turbojets and wings re-profiled for high altitude operation, then it would have been useful as post-WW2 reconnassaince aircraft.
In other words, a completely different aircraft.
@@dabraze No, just 90% of the potential to do what the U2 did, but much earlier.
All prototypes are ridiculous expensive and Hughes was not insane. He was very focused.
A true aviation masterpiece. One of the most beautiful prop planes to take to the skies in my opinion. He was a great aviator who history just did not understand because of his fight with mental illness.
Howard Hughes was Insanely brilliant!
The Fokker D1 and these engines would have been a great combination .
Did you mean the G1?
@@SatumangoTheGreat ups typo
His quirkiness manifestated itself after his crash.
It's said that genius and insanity are very close cousins.
If only Hugh’s was born 10 years later, he would have an endless budget through our out of control military industrial complex
Elon Musk is the 21st Century version of Howard Hughes. They compare very nicely.
He compares well with Thomas Edison too, as Edison was really his inspirational historical figure, as he noted in a few interviews.
He named his car line Tesla to play on the emotions and fantasy hype of the turn of the century internet Tesla obsessed....figuring they would premarket his car for him fie free. It worked.
Others obviously beat me to it…. But HOW could you possibly mistake Theodore Roosevelt with FDR ??
lol
Indian scriptwriter probably
If only our current political and industrial "leaders" were this "inssne" today.
Elon Musk!
Absolutely gorgeous airplane!
Consolidated Vultee, not Consolidated Voltae….
Absolutely gorgeous airplane!. Hughes wasn't insane! How about an eccentric genius?.
When you cant even get the right Roosevelt picture it makes you question the rest of the video(s)
Historical inaccuracy: the commentator says Col. Roosevelt presented a recommendation to Air Force General Arnold in 1943. The U.S. Air Force did not exist until 1947. What he might have meant was the US Army Air Corps, not Air Force.
Hughes was certainly NOT insane at this time. There we can have debates over his sanity later in his life, but at this time I believe he was in his mental prime !
A lot of geniuses are eccentrics.
Howard Hughes was a great American and a brilliant aircraft designer. Calling him an "insane man" is like calling your videos historical documentaries.
The one thing I take issue with here is labeling Hughes insane. He was rather eccentric and focused rather hard on his work, but he definitely wasn't insane.
I don't like the sloppy (at best) and 'click bait' way this channel reports on historical events. Howard Hughes suffered from end-stage syphillis which altered/diminshed his mental capacity, technically not insanity but that's a subtle distinction which I am willing to concede. The rub is that this occurred 25-30 years after he designed the aircraft which is the subject of this video. The aircraft was designed by a man who EVENTUALLY went "insane"; it was not designed by an insane man.
Recent theories run towards him suffering from a closed head injury after the crash landing. Without proper diagnosis and treatment, more extreme aspects of his personality came to the forefront more frequently.
An amazing looking aircraft with almost no military use except, perhaps, as a high speed photo recon platform. O.K.... who is going to put out a 1/48 kit?
nice warthunder promo. been playing that game for over 11 years and it still is my go to game for good times :D
yeah i have been playing it for quite a few years daily though lately there has been a mass influx of retarded casual gamers that refuse to learn how to play and win
Are you serious?? Franklin Roosevelt was President during world war 2 , not Teddy Roosevelt.
Hughes was NOT insane: he suffered brain injuries in this crash that there was little knowkedge of at the time, and he wasn't properly treated as a result. He even designed what became the modern hospital bed, while he was recovering, because he couldn't sleep in the bed that he was in. Just another of his many accomplishments.
He had a mild case of O.C.D. that became exaggerated after the crash, but he made it very clear that he was still running the show.
Ironically, the P&WR 4360's went on to be often problematic engines in every application they were used in. The prime example is the Boeing 377.
His autopsy revealed a whole bunch of broken off hypodermic needles in his arms legs and lower back. His doctor broke off half of the shots given to him. That must have been awful, the pain just moving your body and the doctor repeats the mistake.
At what point is it no longer a mistake?
P-38 is so sexy, especially in polished aluminum form. Uff
Happy to see the dark series sponsored by WT!
What we should care about is that he was spending his own money and risking his own life. This video's underhanded title does not help this channel in my view. Strike one.
@5:32 There is an important error in the narration and the accompanying visuals: Brigadier General Elliot Roosevelt (he would attain that rank before retiring) was not the son of 26th U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt (whose photo is also erroneously displayed @5:38) but the son of the then incumbent and 32nd U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Just a minor mistake in an otherwise brilliant mini-documentary about this unique aircraft and its relevance in world's aviation history, yet worth pointing out for the sake of accuracy.
He wasn't insane.
Though he had very severe OCD.
He probably had alzheimer's in his latter years, though you could have called him a bit eccentric at that time.
I kinda wonder if he wasn't a little autistic, honestly.
A massive germ-a-fob.
Uh . . . uh . . . uh . . . you didn't just leave out a tiny detail did you?? (The gigantic crash that almost killed Hughes.)
Theodore Roosevelt was president in WWII?
I bet the backroom politics and kick backs from Hughes competitors had a lot to do with the delays. The probably figured they'd let Hughes do the rough work and if it worked they'd get him to subcontract some of the work out or take the designs the government paid for and transfer them to another company. Kind of like they did to the guy who designed and built the original Jeep. Loved the video. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Musk will be wearing Kleenex boxes as shoes in 10 years.
No, he’ll still be innovating and pushing the limits human exploration and knowledge. He will still be wealthy and relevant. You however, will be irrelevant, and probably living a life of quiet desperation, statistically probably divorced, and doomed to die in complete obscurity.
@@haveaday1812 He'll have 10 inch curly toenails.
@@haveaday1812 He'll milk a billion dollars from the government to develop a car for his failed tunnel that will go 60 miles an hour max and it will be called the Excuse Caboose.
Probably be living in Russia
Mr. Hughes was a brilliant man and contributed more to aviation than you ever could. Bashing him and the plane that was experimental and radically new at the time. Keep this up will unsubscribe from your channel. Matter of fact just did.
What happened to the airframe of the 2nd aircraft?
Teddy Roosevelt wasn't the president during WWII, that was his cousin Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
One of the few episodes that I've seen errors on your channel. You stated Elliot Roosevelt was son of the SITTING PRESIDENT Theodore Roosevelt. Whoops !!!!! Still love your work !!!
It's hard to fault the guy. Probably dumped a fortune. Wood is obviously unusable. The Moquito, an excellent aircraft, the waking nightmare of Nazis, proved that. So fast, it won't need guns. Mount guns immediately.
The similarity to the lightning is mere happenstance, obviously.
Thank you. You poured your heart, soul, fortune into the project. You made a difference, young man. Well done.
You’re WRONG it was ‘Franklin’ Roosevelt. Like OMG
Oh come on. He used both of their pictures.🙄🙄🙄
Insane is showing the wrong aircraft in your videos and looping the same footage. 😂
i read this story years ago in a readers digest. this is the first time i heard that hughs knew about the prop reversal issue beforehand
Or was he genius? Maybe it was his doppelganger who was insane? If you haven't heard of the theory look it up, it's pretty interesting.
The title is a tad disrespectful to a amazing man.
Howard Hughes was THE goat
Those errors do drive up the comment sections and maintains views. Good Bait.
They got me. My last time though. Hack analyzing info for the video. The moment I hear "The Stupid" I stop watching. Did the plane crash? I gave up because the TH-camrs have no respect for their audience.
If I was a covert military adjunct of the US, I would be looking at who is playing this video game very successfully.
WarThunder? No it's essentially an arcade game. DCS would be a much better game to judge from a simulator perspective.
Hughes wasnt insane. Way too many errors in this one, especially ignoring that Lockheed really WAS stealing Hughes designs and used the military to do it.
Dark Skies is always full of errors. Their proof reading is atrocious.
So he started this project in 1937, ok, not too bad... but then finished it in 1946??.... whats that, 9 years? He is still messing with this been done design even after watching the Lockheed P-38 Lightning And the de Havilland D.H.98 Mosquito win the war, and still messing with this now obsolete nonsense 2 years after the Me 262 appeared over the skies in Germany... like WFT dude??
Just wow... certainly gives new meaning to the phrase 'Johnny Come Lately'
What makes more sense is that Howard Hughes was just not that enthusiastic about the project because of the success of the Lockheed P-38 .... he may have put on a show of being enthusiastic as a good business man, but that's about it.
See, for the enthusiastic developer, problems are things to quickly overcome, for the non enthusiastic developer problems are excuses for delays.
U Mixed up roosevelt presidents. it was FDR son who lobbied for Hughes
Another prop aircraft that arrived too late for WW2 in a time when jets were taking over.
How about a prop aircraft built during Well used in Korea and used in Viet Nam? A1Skyraider. Viet Nam? AC-47, AC-119,AC-130. OnMark B-26K
Got your Roosevelt's a bit mixed up. Teddy was long gone by WWII.
One of the most beautiful aircraft ever built
Have you stopped actually researching these video's, things seem to be sliding down hill a bit on the facts?
"The ridiculously expensive plane built by an insane man." What, no love for the Spruce Goose?
5:17 Why are we looking at footage of a Hughes AIM-4 Falcon missle control surface test when this video is supposed to be about the XR/XF-11? Odd to say the least.
5:38 I'm pretty sure Teddy Roosevelt was not President at this time.
He was in office from 1901 to 1909.
I think his cousin was president at that time.
Who needed a propeller airplane in the late 40s anyways? Jet engines were the way to go.
You mentioned, rear propeller @09:47, and again @10:26, the right rear, propeller. What rear propellers??? Howard was fortunate as in not, to kill innocent people, on the ground. Insane man?? You'd have to be, to hang out with 'Katherine'🤭.
Aviation aside, wealth aside, Hughes is a case study in what comes out the other end when you forcefeed a child's mind with a topic you don't understand, filling in the blanks with overzealous scrutiny.
Elliot Roosevelt was the son of Franklin D Roosevelt who was president at that time, he was not Theodore Roosevelt's son. Theodore Roosevelt had passed away decades earlier.
Reference, time: 5:40 "Son of then President Theodore Roosevelt"
Correction: "....Then President Franklin D Roosevelt"
(Theodore Roosevelt was long dead at this point having died in 1919)
I knew exactly what this video was the moment I saw the nose of the plane.
My favourite aircraft! Thanks for the vid!