Michael Moore on Planet of the Humans | Useful Idiots
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- Michael Moore joins the show to discuss the removal of Planet of the Humans from TH-cam, and addresses criticism he and the film have received.
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"If you don't believe in freedom of speech for those that you despise, you don't believe in it at all"
Noam Chomsky
It is not that simple. if you harm people with that speech, should it still be free? Has Chomsky even said that without any context? When did he say that? Anyway, the copy right laws are BS, especially if it is a 4 sec clip.
@@bartbertold1939 If your stance in freedom of speech isn't absolutist then its just a matter of time until YOU get exempted out.
FreeParsons Moore is quite good actor. Debunking the movie so easy & still he can sound credible to guys like Taibbi 🤔
Except that he's a z-ist gate keeper
@@bartbertold1939 thank-you for raising "the paradox of tolerance".👍🏾
and Kia Ora from Aotearoa New Zealand 🌻🌷🌻
"Billionaires are not our friends"
Moore is absolutely right.
Didn't a billionaire just successfully launch two men into space for the first time in 10 years? He sounds like a true enemy of the people!!
I want billionaire friends, what use are poor people.
@Jerk Joker I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you're joking.
@@wrv341 Yeah, they want a plan B, in case the planet becomes uninhabitable. I'm sure they'll take us with them, in that case...
@@wrv341 NASA launched two men into space not a billionaire .
Nice try.
America doesn’t need a third party it needs a second one.
More like it needs 20 parties.
Well said
@@Ctrl_Alt_Del_USA Both the same thing....
I love how they still find a way to say "It's ok to take Trumps free speech" Give me a break Progressives, either be for free speech or not.
Among many things, America doesn't just need at least a third party; it first needs a second party.
I'd love to see Michael make a film about the Corona virus. Get to the bottom of all the rabbit holes and find out if any or many are true...
@@BaranoffIsaac
#1. Dat wouldn't b American. Ur SUPPOSED 2 go live n those countriez, so u won't haveta hear any offensive narrativez 2 DUH status quo.
#2. America, iz 2 busy mporting from China, 2 dport. Perhapz, if Michael Moore mployed 5 billion Americanz, they'd dport his azz, along wit those jobz.
DUH @ covering yo massaz azz - don't matter dat hez gnittihs on u
it would be nice to see the following movie showing how much the green energy mania actually costs, including all government subsidies. This video should show you the facts of that:
- building a wind power plant offshore costs about 3-3.5 times more than a clean coal power plant of the same capacity able produce electricity 24 hours a day, not only when it blows.
- each megawatt of a wind turbine built on the land uses 870 cubic meters of concrete and 460 tons of steel. - for this purpose, the gas power plant uses 27 cubic meters of concrete and 3.3 tones of steel.
- China in 2020 launched new coal-fired power plants with a capacity equal to all currently existing coal-fired power plants around the world. So, if green energy is so cheap and good and China is a major mass producer of wind generators and solar panels - why are they still building coal plants?
@@lubanskigornik282 What is the cost of wind versus the cost of coal? At least nobody dies during the process of mining (extracting) wind.
@@kiwitrainguy How do you make a windmill without mining metals & using petroleum dipshit?
@@Satchmoeddie You might use some metals but if the energy comes from renewables then the only petroleum is in the grease for the bearings of the turbine.
I would love to see Michael make a film about the 2020 election.
He did. 11/9 was title of it.
I still think that the sequence of Clinton and Co. realising she lost the 2016 election while Trump realised he won with opera music playing is one of the greatest pieces of cinema ever created.
@@unitedfools3493 i want to see that! Do you have a link?
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long-stem rose
Everybody knows
Nice read, thank you! A Jew from Montreal, Quebec, Canada said and sang that being Leonard Cohen. Light keeps coming in!!
Perfect
Leonard Cohen knew wtf is going on.
Nice!
I know this one from Concrete Blonde......best ever.
More Matt and Katie content... RIGHT ON!! Finally, Rolling Stone is making use of their Human Capital Stock!
Secular talk
hahaha AAA rated
Mooo!!!
I have been talking about this for a year.. and I won't stop.. This conversation needs to be had!
Yeah, right... Like it's gonna change anything... LOL!!!
try 18 years it was as clear as an icecube
Here in The Netherlands the government is investing 11 billion in transitioning coal plants to bio-mass + building new smaller plants. Meanwhile, nuclear is a word we aren't even allowed to bring up, and sadly, especially on the left.
th-cam.com/video/cDqZVjAiAvs/w-d-xo.html
@@nillehessy The negligence of most US political leaders on the environment goes back, at least, to the late 1950s. It is summed up quite nicely by something Moore pointed out: Carter put solar heating on the White House in 1979, then Reagan took them down in 1986 thinking they were a joke. By the time Obama put them up again, it was too late. It's a nice analogy for the whole thing. www.thoughtco.com/history-of-white-house-solar-panels-3322255
I would love to see Michael Moore speak out for Assange. The plight of Julian is heartbreaking and we need to call out the travesty of justice for what it is.
You mean the same Julian Assange, who is the founder of Wikileaks... and who published emails stolen by Putin from Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, which then gave the election to Trump? So, you basically feel sorry for Assange the man who got Trump elected? You know the racist thug, whose behaviour led to the deaths of children on the immigration border?
Christ, I wish people made the effort to find out what is 'really' going on please, rather than just believing pretty much the first thing they hear?
Well, they titled this correctly "Useful Idiots" because everything in the Planet of the Humans is false and a distortion, please see video: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
@@sebastianwrites Yes, he is the founder of Wikileaks. No, he did not receive emails from Putin. 🙄That has been proven a lie. He did not get Trump elected - that was the American voters who voted in Trump.
@@karynh11 Karyn, you are not being honest with yourself! First of all, it was Putin... send to me proof that this was not Putin who supplied these emails? Secondly, those emails had already been investigated in the past, and instead cost Hillary the election. And 'no' Trump did not win, Hillary gained nearly "3 million" votes more, but because your Electoral College is based on slavery many Southern States, which had those old slave states getting more votes! Thirdly, Hillary was 6% ahead until those emails were released, even 'if' Putin did not release these, then it still cost her the election, emails, which she had already been investigated and there was nothing incriminating within.
Think you need to have a "good think" as to what you believe... you've just complimented Moore for this documentary, and as I proved in the video it is pack of lies!
I'm not discussing further unless you can supply proof of what you are saying from reliable sources? Most people in the West, believe selfishly what 'they' want to believe these days. That's why democracy has decreased around the world for the last 15 years! America's democracy is at risk and before you dispute that with me, I suggest you do a 'quick' Google Search please, and type "why is America's democracy at risk?"
Although the people of America should be well aware of this, and all of us actually...?
@@sebastianwrites You and I may or may not like it, but Trump did win. He won due to the Electoral College, yes. Look up NSA whistleblower, William Binney who proves that the emails were leaked and not hacked by Russia. It is infantile to blame a journalist/publisher for one politician winning and another losing. The role of journalism is to publish. Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed; everything else is public relations - George Orwell. If you think the emails were not incriminating, why are you blaming a journalist for Trump winning and Clinton losing? The people voted Trump in as Clinton would be more of the same neo-liberal governance which has decimated the middle, working and lower classes. Biden is in, now. How is that working out? More of the same and the little man is the loser.
I now realize that I have a love/hate relationship with Michael Moore..
#metoo
With everyone you should love the good things they do while not loving the bad things they do. It's okay to have a nuanced opinion of someone. Michael Moore is NOT a stupid person. I think some of his opinions are ridiculous, but I'm down to give credit where credit is due.
It's just love from me. I once thought he just wanted money, but I was wrong. He opened my eyes up to so much that's going on. I hope that the hate that you have for him is because he hasn't done more films that could talk about the people that are killing our planet (meaning more than he has done)... we all have our opinions though.
Michael was courageous for challenging the orthodoxy - of capitalism and that an economy can be green.ecological while it increases the GDP.
Boy oh boy you are stupid..
Moore loves capitalism, it's made him EVERY dollar he has.....
@@elonmust7470 At least he makes good use of his dollars unlike most. There is simply no way to avoid the capitalist system while living in it. One has no choice.
@@elonmust7470 Something tells me he'd prefer and do just fine with socialism. (Since you're so free to speculate on someone else's opinion then I shall too!)
@@waterkingdavid The free trade of goods and services. What a terrible system.....
@@doktormcnasty He wouldn't be wealthy in a socialist country...
I looked around a bit about Ralph Nader's objections to "Roger & Me": it centered around Moore's treatment of the subject, not the subject. Nader wasn't alone, UAW members helping Moore on the film project felt that Moore screwed them. They & Nader wanted some emphasis on grass roots organizing in Flint, alongside union members, opposing various GM plans. Moore chose to focus on himself - hence, Roger & Me; the rest of the community treated as lost rubes. That's what Nader and the rest objected to.
thomas hahn ok so why didn’t Ralph Nader and his grass roots pals manage to PUBLICIZE the situation? I give MM credit for courage to put it out there. Seriously asking how he was wrong. Willing to listen to you. Please explain
Ynes Brueckner
It simply makes a better story to have GM vs the ‘local boy’. GM vs ‘the evil unions’ won’t get you much place in the corporate-propagandised USA.
@@ybrueckner5589
Citizen Moore is a book that describes the events. Start out on pg 143 & read backwards to find out Nader's organization's participation & reaction to the movie.
books.google.com/books?id=fThcLkttKtUC&pg=PA144&lpg=PA144&dq=ralph+nader+criticizes+roger+and+me&source=bl&ots=r0wx7Od6F-&
The film IS called: Roger & "ME". Mike's endeavor to get a one-on-one with the GM chief.
Thanks for the update from the primary source himself, MM!!
Climate change: "Can we solar panel and windmill our way out of this? I don't think so."
"Renewables" are tied to OIL,COAL & NATURAL GAS, "renewables" could not even exist without them so it's STUPID to claim that we can replace declining RESOURCES with a RESOURCE DEPENDENT TECHNOLOGY!
NO, we cannot "solar panel and wind TURBINE our way out of this", those who claim we can are LYING!
@@sheilachambers6671 obviously we need to reuse the materials, so with recycling we CAN do it... your objection is basically: hey we can't do *everything* right at the same time right now, therefore let's give up on our future... what the hell?! Of course we need to become renewable with manufacturing as well, not just with solar and wind but with EVERYTHING. Stopping our first attempts at renewable systems because of that is just retarded.
@@thulyblu5486 And we need to address the fact that we are in serious population overshoot. On a planet that can sustain around 1 billion people, we have 7 1/2 billion. We are displacing the wild animals and natural places. Nature is getting ready to cull the human herd.
@@tomdehen AND we are displacing the oxygen, the water, and all the natural systems that sustain human life!
@@johnbanach3875 Thanks for your response. There's a page on the Scripps Institution's Keeling Curve website showing a graph of atmospheric oxygen decline. It's a mirror image of their carbon dioxide increase graph. We really are in deep yogurt.
Holy cow, man. Heavens forbid Michael ever makes a movie about Palestine.
Gaza Fights for Freedom (2019). Documentary directed by Abby Martin and produced by Mike Prysner.
Donaca Tanguma
Thank you! Looking it up right now.
When the world looks at America, what it sees is an Israeli colony.” -- Paul Craig Roberts
Good idea. It might make a real difference. This guy is powerful, can talk, inspires me immensely!
Doesn’t he have enough problems and haters already,without AIPAC being involved?
Please do a Palestine movie.
I always liked logic and got a math degree, yet it seems I am in a small minority. Logically, a business enterprise that depends on a limited natural resource cannot be sustainable, that is math. An economic system that depends on unlimited growth cannot be sustainable on the finite earth. also a mathematical truth.
I dont got no fancy math degree but any fool knows that. thank you sir!
Japan now sells more adult diapers than infant diapers. Without frequent migration to the US we would be on our way to the same situation. The math tells me we need more automation and more power to support our aging populations. This is the product of a natural population decline which comes with more education amongst the people, particularly of women.
I just read an interesting book on this called "Limits: Why Malthus Was Wrong and Why Environmentalists Should Care" by Giorgos Kallis. Its just over 100 pages and well worth a read.
Neil Mo But the ecosphere is rapidly deteriorating from expanding demands of corporations- there is no logical limit to the demand but the carrying capacity of the earth is limited:: biodiversity is being lost at a rate unprecedented since the dinosaur extinction, ground water collected under the corn belt in the last 11,000 years is nearly gone, 5000+ year old trees are beginning a mass die off due to climate change, foods genetically engineered to resist insecticides are leading to an increasingly carcinogenic and unhealthy food supply, petroleum fertilizers in industrial agriculture have destroyed the bacteria of natural soil that balances co2 and nitrogen in the atmosphere, deforestation of the rainforest will increase atmospheric co2, die off is the coral reefs due to warming oceans will cause reduction of biodiversity in the oceans. The unlimited expansion of capital demands will eventually extract all the value nature has leaving humans with a sterile world if we survive. All of us must open our eyes these things xoxo
If not before time X, go to riches.
It is greed.
I have my Sierra Club backpack and was a member for quite a while. They have lost their way like so many of these other organizations. They get money for espoused ideas and to pivot once they are wrong is impossible for them it seems.
Proof that Michael Moore is a fossil fuel shill:
A lot of people on the left didn't notice and can't believe that this movie actually argues that renewables are just as bad as fossil fuels. But one of the producers of the movie Ozzie Zehner, literally said in the movie these two quotes:
At the 15:07 mark of th-cam.com/video/cDqZVjAiAvs/w-d-xo.html
“One of the most dangerous things right now is the illusion that alternative technologies like solar and wind are somehow different from fossil fuels."
At the 25:11 mark of th-cam.com/video/cDqZVjAiAvs/w-d-xo.html
"You use more fossil fuels to do this than you’re getting benefit from it. You would have been better off just burning fossil fuels in the first place, instead of playing pretend.”
@Ron Maimon Yes Nuclear is the way to go but people are too scared of it to go that way, but fossil fuels are the worst.
@Ron Maimon "The study finds each kilowatt hour of electricity generated over the lifetime of a nuclear plant has an emissions footprint of 4 grammes of CO2 equivalent (gCO2e/kWh). The footprint of solar comes in at 6gCO2e/kWh and wind is also 4gCO2e/kWh.
www.carbonbrief.org/solar-wind-nuclear-amazingly-low-carbon-footprints#:~:text=The%20study%20finds%20each%20kilowatt,wind%20is%20also%204gCO2e%2FkWh.
I support the newer, safer nuclear designs. And hope the even better 4th generation nuclear plants will be built. But renewables have improved greatly over the past 20 years and are now competitive with fossil fuels and even with nuclear depending on the circumstances.
@@marc8919 Nuclear is the world's most expensive energy source. It doesn't get to the nub of the real problem. The REAL problem is that no matter how much energy can be used, it is always overwhelmed. New plentiful sources of energy are like new sources of heroin for a heroin addict or new sources of alcohol for an alcoholic. If nuclear really was the way ahead it would have prevailed DECADES ago. It is a VERY old technology, decades old. And it is exhaustible, be it uranium or thorium. Why? Because a few percent exponential growth per years means "millions of years" reserves is reduced to just centuries or decades.
@@katies6287 And solar and wind (and virtually EVERY other alternative) are STILL capable of far greater development to higher efficiencies, and lower-impact footprints, every year- it's not exponential, but it IS geometric, and nuclear is MUCH slower. Michael Moore has become an elitist marginalizing the powerful countervailing possibilities to his doomsday presentation.
I lost respect for Moore when I saw him on an MNSBC panel, smiling and nodding as they bogusly chimed about Tulsi being a Russian asset
you must be that rarity: a perfect person who never misspoke or nodded at the wrong time. Good luck with that.
Tulsi sucks anyway so it doesn't matter that much
@@TanaHartmanThorn What? He was on the news......the world is watching, you think he's not conscious of what he's doing? And why didn't he defend her? Why are you lying?
Truth !!!!!!!!!!
Welcome to TH-cam, Michael. Now you know what so many others know.
Michael Moore’s Planet of the Humans is a National Treasure🌹♥️
@glor It’s a global disgrace.
Mike should have done a film on the drug war years ago. I wrote him numerous times begging him to.
Now that the cops are super militant it's too late
Did you send him useful leads tho?
He probably wanted to keep making movies instead of pushing up daisies.
@@tmobile8031 I guess your right lol
God it scares me to know that ADULTS actually like this complete lying lunatic.
HOW CAN YOU BE SO STUUUUPID?
did you watch the documentary "Opium Wars" about Khun Sah (Ol' Burma) whoo wee... more funz than Dark Alliance by dear departed Gary (two bullets to the head suicide) Webb... golly gosh gumdrops
Context: I liked the movie, think it raises important questions and am dead set against it being censored. But this podcast seems pretty weak to me. Sure, discuss the case against censorship in all forms. That's an important topic. But then move on to some of the critiques of the movie and let us hear Moore's rebuttal. Moore says: "If we got a fact wrong, tell us. We'll fix it." Scientists have been telling you, Michael, that the movie has many facts wrong (not opinions; numbers). Have you fixed or promised to fix any of them? Maybe Moore has responded in detail elsewhere to such critiques, but I haven't found where. I hoped he might do so here, but instead Matt and Katie treated him like some sort of royalty. This was pretty disappointing.
I believe Michael would not mind to be invited into such "scientific debate" with respected experts from all side and a very good moderator
You say "many facts," but which ones? See the film's fact checking: planetofthehumans.com/fact-check-bible/
@@myagentvideo that's a very weak site, reminds me of those bible-sized forum quote wars where people would reply to each other's single sentences and went on and on and on with basic replies to each, "debunking" each other to everyone else's suffering. It's almost designed to be boring and insuferable to read. Meanwhile, I've seen a lot of criticisms of the movie's points that go way beyond single line's defenses of it, the movie just gets basic things very very wrong, and I knew a lot of them from the get go while I was watching it, where I was like "Ok, I know this is just not true, why are they saying this?", and all of this is extremely disappointing.
Censoring the movie is a really bad move from whomever it was, it paints the moviemakers as rebellious firecrackers who got into something that the powers that be don't want you to know, etc., and that may even be true, at least partially, but that does not prove the movie is correct at all, it only proves it really pissed a lot of people who have some power. Now, I am all about pissing powerful people off, but I have way more allegiance to something called TRUTH. And this movie just fails at that criteria. Too many mistakes, too many handwaving assertions, too many convenient "edits", too many sleazy points to paint a wrong narrative. Sorry.
Will all respect, people, if you're going to doubt about the facts on this movie, you're plain stupid. I'm a renewable enrgy engineer, my job is to care about numbers, but you're losing sight of the real conversation, as always.
What do you believe to be incorrect and not vetted?
I love these 3 ❤️🔥🔥🔥❤️
Me too !
We watched the film tonight, June 12, from Oakland, California and we appreciate all we learned. It is wrong that folks are trying to stifle this info.
The "info" is wildly and incredibly wrong and old old disproven pro-oil disinformation that is not at all accurate or applicable to the current state of green tech.
@@BlackCeII No it isn't. Why would you brag about being fooled?
@@boostgoober7262 its just wrong about almost everything.
www.vox.com/2020/4/28/21238597/michael-moore-planet-of-the-humans-climate-change
www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2020/05/13/what-michael-moores-new-climate-documentary-gets-wrong-about-renewables/?sh=3d9c488f464d
@@boostgoober7262 "Moore’s Boorish Planet of The Humans: An Annotated Collection”
April 25th, 2020
"Idiocracy" is the best documentary ever.
Interestingly, a little known book by Naomi Klein also tackles this problem, the corporate influence on the Green Movement. Her book, "This changes everything" did not receive much attention when it was released and has been buried since its release.
Interesting and where are all the faux-woke pearl clutchers now? Nation magazine etc? Bunch of hypocrites caught in an inconvenient truth. Moore is right : lets have a damn debate. There really is no more time for this insane division taking place.
@@HJorgin55 As soon as you simply point out how the passage of time has falsified much of the movie's claims about alternative energy, Moore and the producers claim they have already won the debate and claim they are being censored. They host the movie on their web site, millions of people have viewed it, TH-cam is only a monopoly of the brainless.
Her book is a dream.
It is not pragmatic, useful.
Excluding nuclear for example is just silly if you want to halt further climate change.
@@ticthak I don't know what ur point is?
@slothkingn1 Josh Fox is a fraud. I mean good on him for bringing attention to fracking but now that he has some minor "fame" and gets invited on corporate mainstream media he's basically a sell out. And attacking someone with a record like Moore has just proves he's an egotistical jackass shilling for green capitalists. Shame on Josh Fox and the rest of these fame whores.
The movie was full of misinformation. You shouldve pulled it yourself Michael.
You're a religious person. Did you even know that?
@@juliusebola9389 I don't think so. Here's a good criticism of that film: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
Still leave it up and use it discuss a better way.
Is every min wrong.
The entire world begs for there to be more Michael Moore!
Only if he doesnt make trash like planet of the humans. He might as well work on fox news if thats his new angle.
@@sunseeker9581 www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/shaun-golding/90495/the-real-problem-with-michael-moore-s-new-film-planet-of-the-humans
@@sunseeker9581 what do you mean?
@H&SAnimations The documentary was a piece of crap. It should still be here on youTube so you can see it for yourself. It had no point. It certainly did not make the point that is being presented now by Gibbs and Moore, a perspective that I can support. But not this trash video.
@H&SAnimations well that's weird. Okay, I guess I see your point. The right just lies straight up and that's better I guess? This whole place is going straight to hell.
Where are all of the "free speech" right wingers right now? Crickets.
The Conservative fight for free speech against Leftists will restore that right for everyone; obviously the rights for which they are fighting apply to all Americans even hateful bigots like Moore.
Aaron N, right here.Censorship is cowardice.Michael Moore has the right to say anything he likes.I'm not obliged to believe everything he says.Nonetheless,he has the right to be heard.
Hi! I'm a big scary eeeevil "right winger" and I support Michael Moore's free speech and yours! ✌ And I listen to left wing content all the time.
Ask yourself what happens to all those “recycled “ Walmart bags, that people take back to the store...
Awesome bonus episode! I look forward to more!
Don't you mean Moore?
Thank you sooo much for this interview with Michael Moore. I was so disappointed about the removal of his movie "The Planet of the Humans" I forwarded it to sooo many people.
I always heard of things like this happening. But I wondered why the media never covered it.
Does'nt it bother you that the film does not credit the advances that have been made since ten years ago?
@Scott I have obviously seen it. We need renewable energy. We need to be more efficient. We need to transition to renewable energy by proving it can be done. We must do it and reduce our impact on the environment. The panels last more than ten years. The projects that he showed were attempts toward a goal. Sometimes they fail. Bio fuel is a joke, and a straw man. Green washing is real and I agree with him there. Wind and solar is an increasing percentage despite the increase of power consumption. They tried to show a solar powered concert. That did not pan out. Should they just cancel? Of course not. The director seemed to be a burn out that said screw it, to many humans.
This only happens to the populist right. That's why you don't hear about it. Did you know that Amazon removes books purely for their political content? They have 90% of the retail book trade. Weird how nobody on the left ever talks about this... oh wait, that's because it doesn't happen to the left. It happens to your political enemies.
You should also watch this: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
OMG!
Though the movie was total bullshit and used 20 year old footage to slime solar, it should not have been brought down
yes exactly. They did a very poor job of it and simply wanted to create outrage. Utter crap. I won't be watching any more of his projects
Some of the footage is old, but it is not total bullshit. There is a very strong argument to be made that "green companies" main goal is profit, and many are just opportunists. Too many big financiers just in it for the ROI. When I was in the paper industry 25 years ago, "recycled paper" was the rage, even though the recycling of paper produces 3X more pollution than virgin paper. People just feel better thinking they are doing something positive, even if the opposite is true.
The biggest problem is the people screaming climate change knowing that’s not their intentions, like AOC!
Glad to finally hear Michael's side of the story, the truth. I'm a fan.
He was playing to grownups with an appreciation for complexity. If saving the planet is like saving at the penny bank, we have to wake up. Michael did that in this film. WE MIGHT NOT MAKE IT. But we have to.
th-cam.com/video/cDqZVjAiAvs/w-d-xo.html
The film is not very truthful though: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
Mee too. He is genuine.
@Ja The movie lied. Relentlessly. Moore’s defenses of it are even more inexcusable lies. See Ketan Joshi & Just Have a Think.
its a damn good film i watched it twice its right on at the hart of the truth of our problem , i cant understand why so many good people are against it .
Because it's filled with dishonest crap - and I don't mean the criticisms of some Green groups.
I watched it thru twice also! The point of the film is stated by the narrator several times. People who aren't getting the point don't want to imo.
@@LolaBgcps What was the point of the film. Renewables use an order of magnitude less fossil fuels. And the most unsustainable population is the US. I am not in favor of censorship. Michael Moore has become lazy. He had a lot of old film and interviews and must have said, we can make a film from this I guess.
Here is actually a good criticism of that film: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
@@evolt7553 Great critique! I have seen it before and should have thought to link to it.
Too much of this interview was focused on censorship and hardly any of it dealt with the criticisms leveled at Moore by McKibbon and Josh Fox. Namely, Moore used science dated from 10 yrs. ago that solar panels were not effective enough. McKibbon/Fox say that is now not true. Also, midway through the interview Moore says he'll debate McKibbon/Fox and then closes by saying his focus is dialogue with the public and not McKibbon/Fox. Interesting Moore seemed to be shying away from addressing criticism from McKibbon/Fox.
@jakiyaful No he cherry-picked.
Solar panels are more efficient now. It's still not nearly enough to save us. Indeed, it's all but certain that we can't come up with technological solutions that will allow us to sustain a human population of tens of billions (or even the multiple billions we have now). Limiting the human population to under 1 billion is ***inevitable*** (whether desirable or not from any given viewpoint), because it's the only sustainable course - the only question is whether we get there by way of global resource wars (pandemics, etc.), which will most certainly kill the marginalized at much higher rates than the privileged (so the burying one's head in the sand and wishing for a technological miracle is actually incredible racist and classist), or through something like voluntary reproduction limiting, which isn't a genocidal approach.
Until we can and DO (that's important, because many of the better technologies aren't in widespread use or even brought to market at all - they're still speculative) make our renewable energy generators from ONLY renewable energy, none of it is actually renewable, which is the central point being made. Vast numbers of people are in complete denial because they can't face the collapse of advanced capitalist society, but that doesn't make it any less real.
If you're not going to help, get the fuck out of the way.
That's what happens when a stupid film is censored. It fuels the conspiracy and becomes the focus. Better to refute the nonsense directly.
@@katies6287 nah Fox cherry picked in the Nation mag no less. Weak.
It’s not confidence-inspiring that a green energy documentarian would use the word “windmills” rather than “wind turbines.” (Pet peeve of mine)
Haha, I get it. But see it like this: colloquially, it's known as a windmill. Since they're trying to reach abroad audience, they're adopting the term people are most familiar with.
Your comment attacks my confidence.
A windmill is a structure that converts wind power into rotational energy by means of vanes called sails or blades, specifically to mill grain (gristmills), but the term is also extended to wind pumps, wind turbines and other applications. The term wind engine is sometimes used to describe such devices.
@@Golgi-Gyges mechanical action to mechanical action is not the same as transferring mechanical action to electrical energy; hydropower turbines aren’t water mills...
@@adamhbrennan read again...
"The term also is extended to wind turbines"...
Speaking of freedom of speech, I'd really like to know what you (including Michael Moore) think about all the conservative accounts that have been censored by Facebook, TH-cam, Tweeter and so on ?
The reason why no one replied is because those two things are not comparable.
Anybody over the age of 45 is guilty of letting this happen? Excuse me, but I am 69 years old and I was in college when all of this began. Does any one remember "Silent Spring"? Did that alarmist environmental message come to pass? What about "The Population Explosion"? Both of those books were required reading in my freshman year. And what about "Growing Up Absurd" and "The Greening of America"? All of those books were radical and revolutionary, but they did have a kernel of truth that did have some positive effects on our laws and our society. We were young radicals and revolutionaries, but we were not the ones who banned DDT. It was banned because its harmful effects on the environment were scientifically recognized. Our movement in the 60's was eventually discredited because of the autocratic and violent tactics of leftists like the Weather Underground, the Students for a Democratic Society, the Black Panthers, the Symbionese Liberation Movement, the Unabomber, and others.
All of these groups were rightfully discredited as terrorist organizations, and some of their leaders and members were convicted of crimes and went to jail, but they have not gone away. In fact they have increased their power and influence, especially in the news media and our school systems and our institutions of higher education. Scientific theories (unproven theories, not scientific laws of nature) have been politicized and weaponized to create an agenda of fear, repression, assault on free speech, and an attempt to destroy our constitution and the founding principles of our nation, namely that we were endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Wake up America. Remember that we were founded by patriots who sacrificed all for the sake of liberty, the first nation to have taken that stand, against all odds.
Remember that our Creator is the author of our faith and liberty, the way and the truth as He promised, and He will not use fear and deception to lead us. He will ultimately destroy the lie and the liar. Stand strong.
Who ever did the fact checking on this film should be fired. It was so misleading. I'm usually a huge fan of Michael Moore's. I also follow the renewable industry advancements. The film was so outdated was a trip going back ten years with seemingly no hope or acknowledgement of current technology. I would suggest watching fully charged out of the UK especially past episodes. Of advancements in Wind, tide, solar and plethora of other advancements from around the world. There is hope
Or even watching this criticism of that film: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
Great interview! I'm with Moore and the film. It does bring discussions and reflection to what we are doing.
The censorship just proves only that the establishment and the ones who have the power are afraid of this film.
TH-cam also takes down Nazis, does that prove that they are right?
@@katies6287 Clearly, unequal, but in fact opposite. While Nazism is morally wrong, the 4 seconds footage that brought down this film is completely accurate. The 4 second footage shows how the rare earth, of which the 1% profits off, makes solar panels unsustainable. Furthermore, the mining of this rare earth material destroys the land around it and the environment of the people that surrounds these mines.
@@joinpsye7045 And yet here you are using a computer (and I'm sure other electronics) that also use these rare earth materials. For some reason Gibbs and Moore are demanding that renewables be made from fairy dust, while fossil fuels and electronics get a pass. The person who originally made that video (of which Gibbs took those 4 seconds) did not appreciate his work being misused to promote fossil fuels.
Moore was critical of Nader for running as a 3rd party candidate. Hmmmmm . . . .
Yeah Mike believes in the b.s. dems vs republicans duopoly. I wonder if he still feels that way he's said dumb stuff but he's still a good one
So Moore is not perfect you mean? So this film has to be fake?
@@nilservik7964 No, I think the film is right that Big Money has infiltrated green energy
That was my thought too. These two guys are giants of the left but neither seems able to put aside their own personal petty squabbling to join together in the creation of a viable alternative party. Both Nader and Moore are not coming together for the people. Moore is still gas lighting for the Dems, and Nader won't say "I'll support the alternative party that has these positions A, B, & C, and I'll work with Cornel West, Chris Hedges, Media Benjamin, and others to form it."
I'll never forget when Moore was on the Bill Maher show and they got down on their knees to beg Ralph not to run. What a tool.
I completely disagree with Moore's movie being banned by TH-cam but I have to say this whole endeavor seems completely unproductive to me. If I could distill Moore's message it would be "this is bad, this is bad, this is bad, young people need to get angry at everyone over 45, we have to do something fast, there is no more time, it may already be too late". This is simply a recipe for endless anarchy which does nothing to help the climate crisis (which is Moore's stated agenda).
go back and watch Columbine or Sicko and tell us again how he's agenda stops with climate change - Moore's agendas are plentiful - smh
American big tech censorship first went after President Trump, now it's Michael Moore.
love you guys and love this conversation
The documentary began filming almost a decade ago. Technology has improved drastically over the past decade and costs are rapidly declining. Citing statistics from ten years ago dangerously misrepresents the renewables industry and its viability. You really need to fact check this film. Lot of errors.
Can you tell me what exactly was said that was wrong?
You didn't paying any attention
So why should it be taken down?
This all illustrates how far we have moved away from "discourse"...way far away.
Why isn't obvious to everyone seeing this documentary that every single thing mentioned makes absolute sense, no matter how little physics you know?
Why isn't it obvious that an indy car's engine is as efficient as they get, and if you were to burn coal 500mi away to charge an electric motor to power an equal performance vehicle as an Indy car, you would waste multiples of "fossil fuel" to do so? Why is it a green solution to pollute the area of the power plant but keep a tiny little area (a city) clear of "carbon" oxides?
Wind generators have been around for decades. Just find ONE old one still functional. Find one solar panel that is 10yo and is still charging. None of this crap was ever a true solution, unless you are a camper 400mi away from a fuel station or on a cruising sailboat.
Powering this lifestyle is what is absolutely unsustainable, and it has nothing to do with "technology" and innovation, it has to do with theoretical physics and environmental sciences. It is not possible. It is a short lived party at the cost of the entire ecosystem.
He is right, the advocates of electric powered crap by alternative energy sources are believers of a religion, based on myths and industrial hype.
I was disappointed he didn't say anything about the worst of all, bio-fuels. Massive deforestation (tropical rain forests) is currently going on to substitute huge industrial monoculture of non-eatable crops used to produce bio-fuels. It is crazy!
he left a lot out. he's a hater, anti America.
@@petemiller9404 American way of life abuses and damages children, this calls for another way of living. Nobody chooses to exist, fundamental needs to not feel harmed and sensical human rights must be protected and not even threatened, by everyone and for everyone. We have to stop hurting children and setting a bad example, especially when we have been hurt, damaged, and mistreated.
Every single thing mentioned in the documentary doesn't make absolute sense! - Logic and reasoning isn't enough to change peoples minds, especially damaged people, poisoned people, narcissists, and alike. This monetary system supporting human activity, designed by humans, perpetuated by humans, doesn't stop nor prevent child abuses and maltreatment - which continues and/or creates more and more problems. There have been many people who have figured out cheap and clean energy, but corruption, incompetence, and damaged people silenced them and/or shelved it. The core of problems is a people problem, starting with hurting children.
If you give people a choice between a comfortable lie and an uncomfortable truth, most will choose to believe the comfortable lie. This is human nature. It's always been the left's enormous Achilles's heel: denying human nature exists. Then the left scratches its head and wonders, "why don't people do what's in their best interest??... well, we just need to shout louder!" Most people are not lefty or liberal, they're fairly conservative: they value stability and consistency in their lives, their lifestyles and community. Human nature is essentially that of hunter-gatherers. 95% of human history was PRE-civilization. 99.9% of human history was PRE-industrial revolution. And the left fantasizes that somehow we have suddenly evolved into an enlightened, rational species. We are not. Human nature is incapable of dealing with this crisis. Most people do not care. Most people avoid reality because it's too disturbing. Most so-called environmentalists are using environmentalism as a coping and avoidance mechanism. How many "environmentalists" do you see with iPhones and MacBooks? They want to continue their lifestyles, changing nothing, and they need to rationalize it. Environmentalism lets them do that.
Thanks for the excellent segment. Fortunately, I had the opportunity to view MM’s “Planet of the Humans” before it was removed from TH-cam. In my opinion, the film was another outstanding feature film by MM revealing the problems with solar and wind energy and whether they are really making pragmatic inroads into clean energy solutions.
@mi The film was garbage, containing almost nothing but lies.
They were such obvious lies it should make anyone who fell for them seriously question their sanity & intelligence.
Why “Planet of the Humans” is crap
Tom Athanasiou, April 23, 2020
Planet of the Humans is back on TH-cam. Apparently intact. June 1, 2020
I've downloaded that before it's gone again lol
I am watching the movie now on youtube (just realized that I'm in Switzerland).
It is a Mockumentary. Ozzie is a fossil fuel grifter.
@@lawrencetaylor4101 Baloney. If you want to slander someone, provide evidence.
@@jean6453 You mean like Gibbs and Moore didn't?
@@jean6453
Planet of the Humans argues over and over again that renewables are just as bad as fossil fuels.
Regarding Life Cycle (mining to construction to operation) emissions of CO2 per kWh:
Coal 820
gas 490
rooftop solar 41
onshore wind 11
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-cycle_greenhouse-gas_emissions_of_energy_sources
Read some informed critiques about it rather than this enabling discussion: getenergysmartnow.com/2020/04/25/moores-boorish-planet-of-the-humans-an-annotated-collection/
The attempt to "shut down" this film is disappointing at best. I am capable of critically analyzing most information. Including this film. If the argument is that NO valid questions were raised by this film and ALL its information was inaccurate or completely false. Well that is just bullshit. This film raises legitimate questions, points worth further investigation...When "experts" ,"professionals", and/or "technocrats" decide who can participate in what should be an open and free market of ideas. Red flags go up. I am constantly mislead and lied to from to many sources to mention here, but it is ACCESS to information that gives me the chance to navigate through the morass and come to my own conclusions. If there is misinformation or outright lies then we should expose that with better facts and arguments and let that stand. blocking or censoring discourse is a method used by tyrants who more often than not have something to hide. I know it is hard work to defend a position but I believe that work is necessary and healthy. I would like to see an actual "defense" of these questions by the "green capitalist" liberals. Come to the table of truth and have a conversation...
Here is a good criticism of that film:
th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
Was ALL information false? No of course not. Effective propaganda always includes some truth and good points. But there was so many blatant lies and misinformation that it lost all credibility. As for freedom of expression, there are plenty of places like 8chan that will host anything no matter how vile.
You can't find their website?
wow i never saw a legitimate valid question after watching it 2x to make sure
Fraud is a crime, conning people to earn money is fraud. He dumped this trash on youtube, because no distributor was willing to touch it because it was too wrong.
Warren Buffett said this: "There was a Class War and we won." The "we" being Billionaires.
That is exactly right, all the garbage that I carefully separated for years, I found, was dumped into one place and burned. This was Hawaii's answer to environmentalism. When I told people about it, they didn't even shrug. Apparently, they just accepted the procedure.
Seems like every movement that starts to get real traction becomes a target for being co-opted by a profit driven group.
Welcome to America and American reality. If you don't love the vile rich and if you are NOT the vile rich...then you are effing underclass. That is what power means. But it can be overcome by stealth and WISDOM. Everyone read more and wake UP. Ask the questions. GET MOVING. By the way the movie is still here on my screen.
Oh hi Bernie sanders
This film was an awakening of how far greed & corruption will go. At a moment we need everyone united to fight to save our planet - the powers at be sabotage Green Energy. They really are the enemy!
Thing is literally everything will have wealthy people involved with it. For anything to succeed it's probably going to need investment.
@@gloriadesalvo2805 "sabotage Green Energy"??? Did you watch the film? At its core Green Energy just isn't that green lol
I think the reason why we are seeing more people want to cancel people and censor content is because no one is being taught how to have a logical debate anymore. People are acting and arguing based on emotion and doing anything they can to make sure their team wins, even if they have to cheat to do so. People are more interesting in winning than in discovering the truth, which is why their main arguments are usually person attacks (ad hominem arguments) and strongly insisting that something must be true because look at all these other people who also believe it (appeal to authority and bandwagon arguments). This is the thing, other than money in politics and everywhere else, that is ruining our entire political system and ultimately our ability to avoid going extinct.
@who People want to get rid of this movie because it’s little but lies, & pushed relentlessly by the far right’s denial & disinformation industry, it’s deceiving millions on the solutions to the most dire emergency in history.
great Film, to summarize its says 1 Think For Yourself. 2 Dont be fooled by corporate and NGO and political greenwashers. 3 Ask before you buy something what are the GHGs and pollutants produced in the making, use, and disposal of what you or your town is being sold.
Michael Moore's claim that "Ralph Nader attacked the film" is a distortion. If you go to the NYT article about this, it explains Nader's position.
'But since the film came out last month, Mr. Nader has written Mr. Moore to demand a $30,000 payment for financial and material support contributed to projects of Mr. Moore; Mr. Nader said the money would go to a nonprofit group that supports journalistic projects. ''I haven't seen the film, and my letter had nothing to do with its content,'' Mr. Nader said. ''I hear it's a pretty good satire of G.M., and I've got no problem with that.'''
'Mr. Nader said he asked for the $30,000 on behalf of Essential Information, a nonprofit group based in Washington that he helped found for journalistic projects. He said the group had given Mr. Moore money for a newsletter that was abandoned so he could work on the film.'
Sooooooo if he didn't attack the film, why is he asking for money? Surely he must have criticised it in the first place? Use your brain.
The fact the Planet of the Humans has full support, by the fossil fuel industry and climate change deniers, says it all.
The film also uses 10+ year out of date data, and it makes many misrepresentations and outright lies.
Yup. And there are so many people fooled by his lumping everything together and never talking about rooftop solar with a storage device.
I am so amazed that TH-cam pulled this. Actually I’m angered!
Micheal Moore wanted to keep the documentary up for 1 month only anyway.
a podcast named 'useful idiots' implies there's a drummer somewhere.
- michael moore on useful idiots 2020
Here's a copy youtube forgot to take down th-cam.com/video/SFbKU6U7ER8/w-d-xo.html
Likewise
Thanks for the link.
This interview was nauseating. I don't believe for one second his story about giving money to a detractor because his wife was sick, and I get my back up when people attack Bill McKibben, who has dedicated his life to educating people about climate change. It's not his fault that this is a country of neanderthals.
The full documentary is back up on TH-cam as of June 13, 2020, correct?
Thanks for the film M M everyone should see it
Everyone should also see this: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
Basically one hour of Michael Moore venting. Got it.
What's for refreshing than truth in a b******* atmosphere? We appreciate the content
Just a shame all the claims were 10 years out of date. Alot of the criticisms that is put out by the film have been fixed and the facts are beyond reproach, green works.
@@jamesirwin7677 BS. Unless we deal with overconsumption, factory farming, and overpopulation all of the changes towards renewable energy will not solve our problems.
@Ron Maimon have you ever seen the Chernobyl site? How about the land and ecosystem above/below the dams prior their building? Mankind is screwed, it's too late.
@@dameongeppetto According to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to avert an environmental apocalypse "Global net human-caused emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) would need to fall by about 45 percent from 2010 levels by 2030, reaching 'net zero' around 2050."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Report_on_Global_Warming_of_1.5_%C2%B0C
Renewables aren't needed to "solve all our problems", they are needed to stop a tsunami of global warming.
@Ron Maimon Hey I support nuclear too. But as we wait for nuclear power plants to be built (and a few are being built) we need to quickly ramp up the renewables to keep as much CO2 in the ground as possible.
30:10 wow. Ralph Nader was upset at MM for going after General Motors in Roger and Me. (New York Times)
Great show
Good to see you here Matt Orfalia!
humans be humans. all have bit of ego, flaws and turf wars
Matt you should call out MM's grift. This publicity stunt had nothing to do with censorship only copyright strike. Michael has still not answered to the awful science used in this movie. Please be more cynical. We depend on people like you for truth. Its harder when our heroes betray us but that is exactly what Michael did here. Censorship like Alex Jones or Louis Farrakhan is a serious issue now. Don't let Mike's grift muddy those real waters.
TH-cam banning his content is NOT a First Article issue. In fact, if the Government forced TH-cam to publish anything that would be a free speech violation.
I don't agree with censorship but you cannot force private business to publish without violating their freedom granted by the First Article.
What Moore has said about the right knowing how to lie as a key to their success is true.
It's been my experience dealing with right wingers online.
and in reverse left wingers know how to lie to fail
The 3+ year-long Russiagate hoax was pushed by Dems and exclusively Dems
C,mon, guys it's a no brainer. They are both actively working against the People and for their corporate overlords. It is a corporate duopoly paid to lie to us through their teeth.
Oh please, like the Dems are the good guys and don’t lie 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JBEMultimediamadrid No that's just stupid.
You just failed.
An Epic Fail.
56:00 so funny the critics have an issue w filmmakers not offering a solution. Wanting a happy ending
Thank you for this interview and the honesty of the documentary. We NEED to face the truth. It is too late. Forget the green new deal-it’s a sham.
Very little truth to be found in the doc
@@joca5181 Actually, I fact checked quite a bit of it and it is very accurate.
@@Dick_Interritus No you didn't anybody who is familiar with the german "Energiewende" knows that the data he shows is years old and he doesn't even state that. They show a graphic refering to primary energy and I assume that most people who watched that assumed it was electricity consumption (and that's no accident, and it's also years old, the new data is easily available!!! That's no mistake). They say stupid shit like "you could just burn the coal directly" just because a comparatively tiny amount of coal is used in manufacturing of solar panels (yeah you could and you wouldn't even get 1/100 of the energy of using it in the construction of solar panels, but they don't say that).
They show a photovoltaik installation and the guy says the efficiency of the solar panels (I believe it was 8 %) so the panels are likely 15-20 years old and not up to current standards. Everything is outdated and he pretends it's not.
The only thing partly true are his ciriticisms about biomass and even those are overblown. Comparing it to mountain top removal mining is just insane.
I watched it months ago and I was so angry that I even remember all these things to this day. There were so much more inaccuracies and outright false statements, but I won't watch this trash again. So don't bullshit people and pretend that you checked anything.
@@zuiop9993 I checked, you are free to believe what ever you wish to.
@@Dick_Interritus You can believe what you want, but it isn't factual. Unless you have picked the few things were he was right and only checked those (propably no actual data, because most of that stuff was 10 years old) which is statistically unlikely, there is no way in hell you checked anything.
As someone familiar with these topics (and as an engineer) I was literally getting angry beyond anything I've ever experienced watching a movie. This was pure garbage. I can only recall him being right about recycling in general (depending on were you live), the recycling of Wind Turbine blades and Biomass. Everything else was pure BS.
Michael Moore is not telling the truth in this interview. See 'Lets just have a think' it de-bunks this film
I was able to watch “Planet of the Humans” on TH-cam today. It was posted NEDERLANDS! Thank you for your creation to help bring truth to our awareness.
Too bad the movie was filled with blatant lies. Here are a couple of good videos debunking it:
th-cam.com/video/cDqZVjAiAvs/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
And here a funny review of Planet of the Humans
www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/planet-of-humans-review/
That made my afternoon. 1st Amendment!!! Thank you Matt and Katie. Thank you Michael. I saw the film and shared it widely. Here's to more films that challenge your assumptions, make you think and walk forward with eyes wide open! 🌎🌍🌏
Fool.
You really shouldn't support fake films. This current edge film is actually an out of date hit peice on the green sector. Google some of the sites listed in the film an you're going to see real progress.
You should also watch this criticism of that film: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
The movie is still up on Vimeo
You're the best Michael! I've watched all your films. As an indigenous person, a tribal member, and a Native Rights and environmental grass'roots activist, I know what you say is the truth. You have all my respect. You, Crazy Horse, Chief Joseph, Bernie, Tom O'Neil, Sheindler, among other. are heroes. I really mean that! Thank you Michsel.
@kla The movie was little more than lies. See Ketan Joshi.
Please do a film on free speech. It won't be long before that ones taken down
This is a confusing film. For example, released in 2020, they used the state of solar from a decade ago as reference to the state of renewable energy today. And in the end said basically "use plentiful coal." Just bizarre. Fossil fuel companies couldn't have said it better.
Michael Moore cannot claim "speaking the truth." The film is full of half-truths, and outright misinformation. This film doesn't understand the topic it seeks to address. Humans use energy 24/7. Renewables, (solar/wind) are intermittent. There has to be an "energy storage" component to a clean energy system. The film bemoans the use of "fossil fuels" (which are acting as the battery in the system), but it doesn't have to be - there are better batteries than fossil fuels: it's called Renewable Hydrogen. Totally unknown to these three from Michigan. Moore's film concludes since they never interviewed anyone with a real solution, one must not exist? What kind of logic is that? If you're not willing to ask basic questions... such as "What's the best battery?"... or "What's the best fuel"... or, "Is there a way to live energy rich without harming the environment?"... if you're not willing to ask real questions, you'll never find real answers. Research Renewable Hydrogen.
This film should have been taken down because it's the lowest level of propaganda. Chalk full of misunderstanding. Moore seems unwilling to acknowledge that Capitalism is only as ethical as its practice. Just because you see corruption everywhere, doesn't mean capitalism is itself evil. If Moore doesn't like the companies he sees... then form one which acts ethically. Michael Moore claims to be an Environmentalist, but in my view, a true Environmentalist seeks solutions. Michael Moore seeks no solution. Not even mentioned in over 1 hour and 40 minutes of showing how Not to do something, the film doesn't even ask "is there a better way?" Worst so called "documentary" I've ever seen. Next time, try a little harder. By the way, the film isn't dangerous as you claim, it's amateurish.
So you support removing anything from TH-cam that you don't agree with. Excellent.
Well done for completely missing the point of the film
Yes we know that but People claim they are using renewables when they are not ...
@@pwilki8631 No, I think the Producers should have taken the film down because it's full of outright misinformation. And, yes, TH-cam should take it down because if you don't defend copyrights.. as rights, then you have no 1st amendment. 1st amendment means you can express any opinion you wish. But, it doesn't give you cart blanche to outright lie and misrepresent so called "facts" which are not.
@@michaeledwards7967 No, you're missing the point of my comment. Michael Moore comes to the conclusion everyone should use Less toxic fuels. That's no solution. The only real solution is to Not use toxic fuels at all. That's the crime of this film. I'm tired of large old white men telling the world they should use less energy. How about getting the energy right, so that all people can live energy rich? This can only happen when we go from "Carbon" based energy to "Water based" energy. Do your homework.
Abbie Hoffman-Moore, “Steal This Movie.”
www.dropbox.com/s/1fqv02grm6q7nx7/Michael%20Moore%20Presents%20-%20Planet%20of%20the%20Humans.mp4?dl=0
Michael Moore directed the music video for "Boom!" By System of a Down on the album Steal this Album. Anyways enjoy that random trivia I'll be here all week
Abbie Hoffman? I guess Antifa are taking a leaf out of Abby's book -- "Kill Pigs" and all that. But Emmett Grogan's "Ringolevio" was more thoughtful and more coherent. I wonder what Michael Moore would make of it.
The most disturbing thing about this interview was Michael saying "We have one job to do this year, and that is remove Trump from office." What does that mean? Elect Joe Biden? FFS! Like that is a solution?
I thought Michael wasn't in the business of proffering "easy" solutions, or of gaslighting us. Matt & Katie need to challenge him on that...
9:09 Moore asks "Can we solar-panel or windmill our way out of this?" Didn't the documentary criticize those forms of renewables?
They are not renewables as the life of theses devices is 20-30 years and then you have to bury them and start over. There is a lovely graveyard/landfill in Casper WY that is nearing capacity
Exactly, what is renewable about 36,000lbs of fiberglass per blade on a 3 blade rotor wind mill...or the Quartz used in solar cells, or the graphite and lithium mined to produce batteries?? 🤣
The Film is still on TH-cam in Australia. Thanks for the fine job.
There's something wrong with this movie: it doesn't mention nuclear.
Nuclear is not renewable
@@restlesssoulme It is an energy source, it is an alternative to both the renewables that don't work and the fossil fuels that release CO2.
If people think the film is misleading or inaccurate, refute it with specific evidence you can back up. Don’t use bogus copyright claims to censor speech
Planet of the Humans argues that renewables are just as bad as fossil fuel.
Regarding Life Cycle (mining to construction to operation) emissions of CO2 per kWh:
Coal 820
gas 490
rooftop solar 41
onshore wind 11
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-cycle_greenhouse-gas_emissions_of_energy_sources
plenty of people doing that th-cam.com/video/cDqZVjAiAvs/w-d-xo.html
I've never watched one of Moore's documentaries. I listen to interviews with him occasionally.
As soon as I heard they censored this one, I watched it.
and what did you think?
After listening to him who do you think is censoring the film?
Who censors him?
Then you got played, pulled in by hype. Just how the charge of "censorship" was planned to work.
So it was the perfect ad...
From the movie: Burning trees and calling it "biomass"... and Al Gore stating he "forgot" that part? Um ... What counter-argument could there possibly be?!?
Michael Moore attack environmentalists who do not support biomass for supporting biomass. Plus is movie is full of lies.
The argument is that the environmentalist who were criticized do not support biomass and it is not done widely.
@@leonpse keep drinking the kool aid.
Michael is a delightful teddy bear, but this film sucks. After 25 years on the Moore train, I'm off. You just painted yourself into a corner. Now you got nobody on your side.
Breitbart and them will pay him to keep the grift going, at least until he goes off script.
He has already spoiled the well by calling the opposition "they", and saying that "they" don't agree for the wrong reasons and "they" are in it for the money. And he says his facts are definite facts. His opposition will deny the facts, is what he's saying. He always tells the truth, so if you want to say something's not quite correct in the film, you're basically lying. But he's also saying he wants an honest discussion... With who? With "they". It doesn't sound like it.
I love Michael Moore yes his latest movie shocked me but .. goid
Now, you should also watch this video, which is a good criticism of that film: th-cam.com/video/ZmNjLHRAP2U/w-d-xo.html
27:00 Summing up the point of the film.
We’re loosing the battle against, here he says climate change but the movie makes it clear is against environmental degradation.
I hope Michael Moore can make "Planet of the Humans" back on his channel.
Felichia Ritter Tell him to upload the movie to Dropbox? You can stream from Dropbox or Google Drive. what’s the link?
No, I think Michael wants to put it in theater next so he can make money off of it. I mean why didn't he just edit the four seconds out and put it right back up??
th-cam.com/video/cDqZVjAiAvs/w-d-xo.html
It's back on TH-cam. That's where I watched it.
thank you ... from Canada .....saw the film and thought others should see it .... great interview by just letting him vent
He didn't actually answer the question about what was wrong in the Rolling Stone Article, he just exposed the guy as being a shill.
Smoke a joint Mike
Planet of the Humans was a very flawed movie that seems to have not been well put together and released probably 25 years too late to be relevant today. There were no solutions mentioned and current numbers are not mentioned. It was a bad movie that needlessly attacks a important green movement Moore claims to support.
Screw you pal.
A documentary is about showcasing lies and terroble stuff, so the evil actors gets highlighted and solve their evil practices. Have you not watched a documentary before? The first one for ya? Watch a docu about animal cruelty, they showcase the animal abuse, the obvious solution that is, stop torturing animals, does not need to be said.
I think the film is a masterpiece and just what 2020 needed. A growing infrastructure of monocropping and burning manmade forests to produce OUR electricity is a very real and current event. The climate capitalists swinging words around like renewable and carbon neutral needed to be clarified and the film accomplishes that.
@@Nrustica the issue is the film has no specific numbers in regard to energy collection and cost to create solar products. This is rapid technology that is growing exponentially. The data was sadly 25 years old. Just the facts. He did not show us where efficiency data is at today or will be tommorow. This is basically malpractice. It made the film pointless. Unless you were a child everyone already understands that old technology will have to be used to create new tech during the transition phase. He did not get into specific nitty gritty of this. He said it's not all new tech so I guess population control it is. Which is also a racist western fairytale. 3billion poor people barely use any energy. The energy waste and consumption is a western issue with a few other countries like China in the mix. Sorry this film was all bad science. That is why scientist have overwhelming condemned it. Just facts
@@davidriggs8713 Stop parroting, and research for yourself. Try using your hatrack buddy, this is sad. The movie was about the envirnomental consequences of producing parts for green tech, and how they did not clean up their waste in disbanded projects. So locals gotta be careful allowing them to build in their nature. And sorry bout this buddy, what is 25 years old, qualify that parroting, sorry to make you have to read for yourself.
What is this about concensus among socalled scientists? This is a very silly parroting to do, stop and think logically before mindlessly parroting. It is activists and lobbyists who have condemned the movie. And no science is a popularitycontest, and sorry bud, we must see their funding first. Those who are funded by governments to produce pro green papers, are as tainted as the lobbyists working for philip morris.
I watched this movie the first day it was available. I was curious to see the black screen on TH-cam if I searched on it just now. Looks like it's been restored and is available for viewing again!
There are bootleg copies up there.
The film Planet of the Humans is for grown ups who understand truth. Saving this planet will be a raw bitch at best. Michael is a traitor to NO ONE. Michael is not the one who has sold out.
One of the best interviews I’ve heard on free speech and censorship. I am on the other side of Michael Moore politically, and actually disagree with his conclusions in the movie, which I watched and loved. But I am 100% behind him speaking his mind. Love that he wants to engage in debate because that is what moves us forward as a society. Our culture (on both sides) has changed from debating ideas to suppressing those that don’t agree with our opinion. Michael Moore seems like a guy I could sit down and have a great, long conversation with, exchange good ideas, walk away disagreeing on most ideas, but building small bridges and being better for the discussion.