M1 Garand 🏁 Speedway [ Long Range On the Clock ] - Practical Accuracy
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The M1 Garand and it's beloved "ping" existed as a massive overmatch in WW2-Korean Conflict when compared to it's opponents like the Kar98k, M91/30, or Type 99. How much of an advantage did the American service-member have over his adversary?
How fast can you shoot an M1 Garand to 650yards? We find out.
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The fact that Henry nailed a target almost a half mile away on the first shot with an iron sight WW2 battle rifle is downright astounding. Fantastic run, I'm somehow even more impressed with your skills!
I mean more the issue that the M1 just isnt that accurate
@@murphy7801 it’s just as accurate as a modern US rifle, 4 MOA has been the standard since 1903
@@murphy7801 yeah an average 7.62 ak is more accurate. But obviously you don't need to have a precision rifle to fight with out to 500.
Half a mile is 880 yards.
You video game rangers can offer your whingeing when you can run a real Garand with iron sights at range in the rain…remember these rifles are 80 years old and are still extremely relevant.
That bullet skip at 0:49 was nice
Bounce it in, is right.
@Big Truck Little RV "just bounce it in, Happy" ~ Chubbs I think
Impressive trench that round dug at 500yds. Like Patton said, it's the greatest farming implement ever devised.
good one
Just put a seed in every bullet and you'll be planting trees
A rifle behind every blade of grass indeed
A nation of riflemen, indeed. Absolutely baller.
Showed my old Springfield M1 to a WWII veteran (Texas/Oklahoma division) who served in Normandy. He stated he never saw a German at 300 yards. When I asked him how far away they were his answer was, "The other side of the hedge row."
I used my Uncle's M1 Garand for hunting with iron sights as a teen. I was amazed how similar the M-16a2 iron sights were to the M1. Really helped with the transition when I enlisted in the Army. 1st battalion 4th infantry regiment!
M1 sights are a little tight for me on the apertures, but man, the M16A2's sights are the cleanest it gets IMO. Don't get me wrong, the M1's sights are awesome, but the A2's just feels right!
B 1/8 Inf, 4th ID, 1974-75, at Ft Carson CO.
@@boywhohasl1vedhascometodie469 Bet when you were using the 16A2 sights they weren't 80 years old, lol.... M16s have pretty good iron sights. Clear and with crisp adjustments.
@@timclaus8313 the design itself is old. 50 years is still quite a long time, and its still a very popular irons pattern. If you ask me which one I like, I’m taking the SMLE’s any day, but for a modern rifle, definitely the A2’s.
@@boywhohasl1vedhascometodie469 One thing about military M16s and M4s, the sights are easily replaceable if they get damaged of beat up too badly. One of the advantages of modern rifles is repairability. But yes, the sights on the last A2 I fired in 2012 were easier to use than the sights on the 16A1s I fired in basic and AIT in the early '70s. As for the SMLE, been many years since I fired one, and it was a tropical MKV, beat the crap out of the shooter. But it was a slick action, smoother than my Spanish Mauser for sure. Watched some videos with shooters that were very familiar with the SMLE, that can get those rounds down range in a hurry when necessary. Slower than an M1, but arguably faster than any other bolt action.
The level of accuracy and precision beyond 350yds was unexpected and impressive.
I think the machining, design, and the metallurgy of the time doesn't get enough credit for making high quality rilfes on the Allied side, especially in Britain and America. They wanted equipment that worked and did their best to make sure that it worked and worked well. No matter if it was a rifle or a Sherman.
It's actually what i expected from Henry not disappointed at all
@@Lonewolfmike Agreed! Good point.
@@JonJonGTA This firearm was assembled from refurbished Garand parts more than likely. Considering it's likely provenance, it has very impressive accuracy and precision. We know Henry can shoot lights out.
Very cool run. I love Garands, awesome video!
Thanks, Rob!
@@9HoleReviews when are we getting the Henry vs Rob Speedway Duel?
•7 rounds
•Each round both of you shoot the speedway course (Same rifle) to determine winner of that round(heavy penalties for misses)
•Each of you choose 3 rifles
{One rifle each from World Wars era}
{One rifle each from Cold War era}
{One rifle each from GWOT era}
•Fan vote determines 7th rifle {Any Era}
Time for M1 Garand vs M14
The fact this rifle was standard issue is wild to me. Im not an antique gun dude but damn that 30-06 gets to the target with some ass still behind it.
Fun Fact: if they are running spec ammo. Its actually lower velocity than .308. Improvements in powder led to the development of .308 (7.62x51) And part of the reason for that development was so soldiers could not chamber the round in old rifles, causing damage. (the US ran into such instances in WWII with things such as artillery, where units with old guns would get ammo from newer guns of the same caliber that would damage them, so they started changing case/shell dimensions from then on.)
@@claytonmachine12 The Fuddiest of Fuddlore.
@@skepticalbadger its not fuddlore. Modern load 30-06 wont blow up a Garand in 1 shot, but will eventually either crack the receiver and/or oprod. There is a reason they make low power 30-06 specifically for use in the Garand, or vent plugs for the gas system.
@@claytonmachine12 no that's specifically fuddlore. Op rods on the garand will warp over time no matter the ammo. Full power in a garand won't do any more damage.
@@ronaldwhitman1377 warp. not crack. and I said and/or. The more common is the back of the receiver cracking from the increased bolt velocity striking it. Which is why people even invented a replacement for the gas plug that vents a portion of the gas.
Y'know, every time you run your "Become a Patron of Patreon"-segment, I picture Josh sitting just off-camera, in a tuxedo, playing the background music on the piano xD
Love it!
The way he hit that 600m shot with the last round in the clip was awesome 3:29 hearing that ping then watching the clip hit the ground before the round even strikes the target was peak satisfaction👌
Agreed
I have the M1 Garand in .308. It uses the same clips, same receiver, same gas system, just the barrel is chambered for 308. I've fired both 308 and 30-06, the only difference really is the 308 shoots a bit 'softer'.
Comparing both on the line might be fun. :)
Is it a converted M1 or a Navy Mk2?
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz New manufacture (80's) Geneseo rifle. They offered 30-06 and 308.
@@Dakktyrel The hell with that commercial crap. I built my own from a CMP receiver. A Italian Typo/2 using US GI and Beretta/Breda parts. Minty SIAU 1967 barrel shoots 1 MOA
I think we all could use a Speedway episode with a belt fed in our lives Henry ;)
6-8 impacts on each target
Some 1919 action
2:40 This is a perfect demonstration of why FM 23-71 states that it is better to aim short of your target.
Sometimes you can bounce one in.
or you could penetrate lighter cover
Yeah I noticed I shot short of a paper target but destroyed the target with gravel. Was thinking that would destroy someone's sight.
In my first year at my winter skeet league, The freezing cold affected my shooting more than I could’ve anticipated. This was my first year shooting in icy and windy conditions; the elements can truly affect performance. How Henry could perform in these wet, near freezing conditions, is beyond me…
My favorite rifle ever. I wouldn't sell it or trade it for anything.
Righteous. Another video suggestion: Brownells Retro Scope on the M16a1/A2 to see how much of an improvement a scope can be.
For interest purposes we used to colourmark our iron sights on the L1a1 when I served n the RAF. For low light or night firing. Great video, great rifle btw
My prayers have been answered! More M1 action! You guys made my day! I actually just got myself a CMP M1D recently. Currently trying to find a scope for it
big spenda
@@jonathanschubert9052 I actually got it for a really good deal compared to what they normally go for. From what I observed they go for around $3000-$4000. I got mine for just under $2000. Still a lot of money but when you compare it to what they normally go for I don’t think I did half bad lol
@@Lt._Nut you can shoot mine if I can shoot yours 😜! Congrats on the find, that's a sick deal!
@@Lt._Nut You never have to explain what you spent on a Garand. God bless you, Sir. Enjoy it. It's a really great rifle.
Great shooting... Now for the weather, As a Sargent in transit I have shot a M60E2 at Lackland AFB, Texas range back in February 1986 while leaving Malmstrom AFB, Montana going to Osan AB, Korea. The day I shot my course of fire, It started to rain then sleeting then snow hard. The RED CAP asked if I wanted to stop. I said no, this is simulated war time . I also had only a field jacket no liner my beret and no gloves. I was soaked head to toe. When done I was in 3" to 4" of mud and water. It stormed hard and the steam was heavy off the gun. I shot a perfect score with rounds left over. I had fun with the course. When I was done I got up and asked who was next. The others were E1 and E2's going throu LE course after basic training. They chicken out and shot the next day.
Now I want to see some .30-'06 skipped into ballistic gel at 500 y
💀
In my expert opinion, based on how hard the round was smacking those plates, the gel block is going to have a bad day.
And it will probably have grass and/or dirt in it.
Love the small puff of smoke when the bolt goes forward after the reload at @1:37
Greatest of all rifles! I have an M1 I bought in 1993 for $350. I sent it to Champion's Choice for a Douglas Air Gauged barrel, NM match sights and gas tube assembly, "front end" work. That work cost $600+
I used it for Service Rifle Competition for many years. I still have it and it is still one of my favorite rifles.
Then when you run outa ammo! Switch to your 1911! And shoot down enemy planes!
Just like grandpa did......twice without looking
People meme on 45 stopping power but how many planes has 9mm shot down?
It's happened before.
Nice run. Would be interesting to see the ag42 Ljungman too. The 6.5 Swede has a softer recoil and has a flat trajectory too.
As a Garand owner I approve this video .💥💥💥💥💪🏼💪🏼 BTW I love the dirt skipping shots 👍
grazing fire!
@@panzerabwerkanone it works. On some targets we would skip them in like that on purpose. Sand, rock, pavement all work as frag.
Reminds me of basic training in 1960. The M1 was high recoil in the first few weeks. Last couple of weeks, the M1 didn't have recoil after shooting it so much. We trained on "Train Fire". Pop up targets that dropped when you hit them. With no hearing or eye protection. What a gun.
Really appreciated this video on my favorite Rifle. I find the Garand, being semi auto, shoots first shot cold barrel bullseye aiming 100 yards to shoot 7 o'clock low. Then again 7 o'clock very close to bull. Next 4 shots cross the bullseye, last two high 1 o'clock. I have 5 of them and they all shoot the same pattern. Only have 100 yard range so very impressed with Mr. Henry's skill with a hot barreled Garand at those distances. The zero changes as the barrel heats and it is easy to go through a bandolero of 48 rounds when you're having fun with a Garand. I tell people mine shoots minute of Helmit.
Excellent run with arguably the finest piece of wood and steel ever to come from the mind of mere mortals. Can’t wait to see my favorite M1 carbine on the speedway!
What Henry is able to do with irons is damn near …. No .. it is damn amazing !!!!
As to the weather. I work outside, far from home, alone, often in the mountains, of central Oregon. I’ve worked in everything from -30°f to 110° f. Hand tools stick to your hands in the cold and burn them in the heat and I would say. The worst, most miserable time is when it’s 30° to 35° windy and raining. It’s one thing to go for a walk, it another to work or train in those conditions.
Yeah man, it’s easy to gauge things with just a thermometer. Once the context of rain at low temps (not snow) is a part of the equation, that’s one hell of an experience if you don’t have good layers on.
@@9HoleReviews forgot to add. Another great video guys. This is my favorite firearm channel by far.
Thanks for the kind words! I miss oregon myself, got to hang out there when I was at JBLM up in washington, but I sense that it's changed since 2011.
@@9HoleReviews yes. It has changed. I am a 3rd generation Native Oregonian so I have been watching the change since I was a child. Luckily, I live in central Oregon, far away from the crazies in the valley. We are still kinda ornery and independent over here but I fear I may have to leave my state before too long. The craziness of the valley has creeped over to within one county of me?
I hope the move Oregon’s border campaign picks up steam.
I just sat down to clean my Garand and I looked to see what y'all were talking about today and I see you holding an M1 Garand. I'm going to get a lottery ticket today.
Having grown up in Wisconsin and now living in Illinois, I agree with Henry that cold rain is worse weather than snow.
Henry is a fuckin goofball, and I'm here for it. Also the big brains. I think just about everyone could learn a thing or two having a conversation with Henry.
11:40
#TeamJosh
- Josh
Well, that was a garand time! Good job boys
Without a doubt my favorite rifle. My dad's issued service rifle in WW2 so I am biased. I am sure Henry already knows about the wet and the cold but I am also sure it was far worse for my dad at the Battle of the Bulge in the below freezing snow and ice that caused nerve damage in his feet despite the fact that he rotated his socks to keep his feet as dry as possible. The recoil is surprisingly not that bad because the rifle weighs nine pounds. Super accurate and the one I shot many years ago was a slapped together mixed part surplus and it still accurately drilled targets. I can understand how the .30 caliber recoil affects the target sight picture more than a lighter recoiling 5.56/.223. Good video. Thanks for sharing.
It's surprising how light the Garand is honestly. My M44 Mosin (the mid sized one) weighed 9.5lbs unloaded vs my Garand at around 9.2lbs unloaded. Gas/Piston semi with 8 rounds vs stripped clip bolt gun with 5 rounds. And the Mosin weighed MORE.
Got to admit, THIS is one of those that has “gotten away”..for .the time-being. EASILY one of my Fav channels..and “HEY, you guys NEED to shoot MORE!” Henry’s a great shooter..just HAND HIM the weapon of choice for that day..EXCELLENT! Edited to add: ‘Hunting’..in inclement or BAD weather quickly turns into a ‘TEST’..BOTH for handling THE firearm and the Will of performing: patience and skills applied...AND bringing home the game. It’s its own “battle” of sorts..
At 71, I can not see those targets at 300yds. But I enjoy watching Henry. Stay Sharp!
NO WRONG TARGET!
At 1:39 there's a neato little puff at the muzzle when he chambers a round.
Back to back videos of 2 guns I own. You spoil me.
In 1969, at Army basic training, I qualified on the M-14. The sights were basically the same as the M-1. We zeroed our weapons at 300 meters. A nice weapon.
Love the speedway series. Would love more of them.
I absolutely love the fact that you guys are doing speedway runs with these old classic Rifles.
Loving all your vids! Keep up the great work guys
I love the M1 even over the M14. I own two in 7.62 and two in .30 caliber. A 300 yard zero is the most versatile-- as Henry illustrated. Thanks for the video.
Another fantastic show! Action and educational
Awesome stuff,I’ve never seen a perfect trail like that from a skip.very cool stuff guys!! Love the old stuff still getting it done.
Appreciating your guy's style of gun review and analysis over the other youtube offerings. Hope you continue your channel.
So much fun, you guys rock! You’re absolutely my favorite channel!
As an cmp match shooter my whole life 300 meters is a realistic range. Bump up to match grade rounds and it’ll stretch the rifle also add a fiberglass bed to help 👍! Great run Henry
100% agree I'd rather be in below freezing than above. I've been un Alaska in -40f but coldest I've been has been along Mississippi River working on levees at about 32f, even just dipping below freezing the wind blows off river picking up moister and it cut through anything I wore
I haven't shot for a very very long time, I always look forward to seeing new stuff from you and Josh. Not sure how often you are putting new stuff because youtube algorithms are screwing things up. However love your output especially speedway. Thanks mate. From England 🇬🇧
That was one of the best videos ever. It had a little bit of everything.
1:37 Puff of smoke out the Muzzle when the new clip is inserted and the Bolt moves into battery!
Great Content, thank you
Prescribed finish for woodwork on British military rifles was boiled linseed oil, for about as long as they were putting wood on guns (not sure on the L1A1). If you find any woodwork with shellac or varnish on then it's been added later.
Love this vid. Keep it up guys!
Love the garand content
Personal experience: I have always loved my CMP Garand but always thought it wouldn't be very accurate at "long distance". Not long ago, we were shooting 450-yards with some nice scoped rifles in modern calibers intended for distance. For some reason, we lugged the Garand out and decided to give it a try. To my astonishment, even with my mid 50's eyes, iron sights, and generic surplus rounds, we repeatedly drilled an 18" steel target (IMHO - one hit=luck; multiple hits=confirms the effort). I could hardly see the target at that distance but the old war dog came through with clearly audible hits; confirmed by my glassed spotter and video recordings. The experience really opened my eyes to the quality of this old design. Way to go USA!!!
Sometimes I watch these and think I could at least clear the course with 2 or 3 rifles that I own. Not as fast for sure.
But I own an M1 that I have gotten to 1.5ish moa with a commercial load, and Basra will freeze over before I could do what Henry does on this run.
Outstanding work.
1.5 moa is great for this rifle!
You won’t find much better without doing a lot more work on it.
THE VIDEO I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! This is the kind of shooting the M1 was designed for.
Nicely done Henry!
I love these! Great content!
Great work on a cold and raining range. I myself hate the rain at the range. At times I would get a drop of rain land on the rear site and block my site picture just as I would be centering it.
I think what I observe is the coolest things about M1s is that they aren't heavily affected by variations in ammunition as far as point of impact is concerned. 110 grain up to 170 grain, still point of aim point of impact (near enough anyway) for a zero'd rifle. Also the procedure for zeroing them hasn't changed in over 80 years. They just got it right the first time.
My 1954 H&R M1 I hand picked at the south store in Anniston Alabama Is the crown jewel by far in my modest collection. I LOVE that thing and sadly shoot it very little anymore due to the cost of ammo. I used to shoot it a lot back when HXP was only $64 a can from CMP. I wish I would have both a uhaul truck full of it at the price. 😢
The thing you gotta love also about that beast is how hard it smashes that steel even at the long distances. That thing packs such a punch.
Wow! Some outstanding shooting! Job Well done.
Love it keep up the great work
Great job guys. I enjoy all your videos.
That was kinda cool to see the charging handle running forward and pushing smoke out of the barrel
Shot a Garand match at Perry one year when it was raining so hard that it was, fire, blow the water out of the rear sight, fire, blow the water out of the rear sight. Interesting rapid fire string.... The M1 Carbine was made to be more effective than a 45 for officers and in the rear folks. They are that, but thats about it. Sighting systems, the machining took more time, so the ladder sights were done away with, along with a lot of other refinements to get the rifles in the field. Yes MOST of the engagements were 200 and under, however battle sight zero was (IIRC) 347 yds for the 1903 ladder down. Garand BSZ was 300 yards -2 clicks. Effectively a 6 oclock hold on a target punching center with the sight set at 300, come down 2 makes POI the same as POA
That looked very fun. Thanks for the show!
Good Job Henry! Screw the weather and the cold! “This is where it pays off, the training and the discipline. No other outfit in the world could pull out of a winter battle, move a hundred miles, go into a major attack with no rest, no sleep, no hot food. God... God, I'm proud of these men!”
Love your videos gentlemen 👍
Especially the old mil-surp action. I love seeing the old battle wagons take on a long range course.
Maybe in the future an Egyptian Hakim in 8mm Mauser can take in a speed challenge.
Keep up the good work.
I just did a cabin fever challenge with an m1 , I really struggled with reloads which cost me time, you made the reloads look very easy. I have an issue with rear sight it does not provide any tactile or audio feed back when adjusting so I need to address that. And similar to you I had a round chamber but it did not engage correctly so I could not fire and had to load next round. Absolutely agree it is an amazing experience running this rifle. Everyone should own one
Definitely need to change your rear sight parts. Hopefully it’s not the receiver that has had its positions worn out so you’re not feeling it anymore.
Jesus christ, those shots where on point... Watching the trails made it even more beautiful!
i don't have to watch you ant longer Henry. i was waiting on this one. i suppose however i'll stay tuned. And watch this again. And again, and again... Great rifle, great shooting.
Great stuff ..... thank you!
I think we’ve all been waiting for this one for some time!
The normal great video. Great shooting Henry. I also wanted to add the loss of an industry giant Richard Dyke has passed. The founder of Bushmaster and Windham weaponry
exellent content, the way both of you talked about the tool and explained your range time was 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸....I just subscribed to your channel....
As Henry was shooting under these conditions, the least I could do is watch the video under similar conditions. It's raining with a wind chill in the mid 30s. Granted, I'm not in the prone position, but I can't enjoy a cigar in the house lol.
Oh come on now we absolutely have to see a m/42 "Ljungman" on the channel for the comparison!
That was intense, and fun to watch.
Having worked in military aircraft maintanance for 27 years; cold, wet, windy, and dark was the worse followed by anything below -30F
Great run I love the speedway!
Great video.
36 degrees at Ft. Lewis is generally miserable.
Outstanding shooting indeed! The M1 Garand is absolutely the best for a semi-auto battle rifle of it's day for WWII and Korea where even America's enemies were still using bolt action rifles up to the Korean War. There was a battle in Korea where a Filipino battalion task force destroyed a Chinese 3 regiment attack which accounted over 2000 Chinese dead and a thousand more wounded who were left behind after they retreated. The Filipino battalion had 13 dead and over a hundred wounded. They held their position and went through ammo like crazy, they were all armed with US small arms and weapons systems. General Mac Arthur was very pleased with the Filipinos when he saw in front of their positions thousands of dead Communist Chinese just littered the battlefield. Mac Arthur said it was "A sea of red". The senior NCOs and officers of that battalion were veterans of WWII from the old Philippine Scouts who fought on Bataan and as guerillas. They were hard core infantrymen and knew the value of the M1 Garand in power and accuracy.
Nice rifle. I just got my first Garand.
All the rifles I have, it's one of the most impressive.
Excellent.
we say: there is no bad weather. Only wrong/bad clothing.
You might prefer the freezing temperatures, but I remember my dad talking about one of his hardest fights was when his unit was fighting the Germans for a warm dry barn to keep from freezing to death. They would take the barn and hold it for a few hours and then the Germans would counter attack and take it black. This went on for days. The only value the barn had was the fact it was the only warm dry cover for over a mile.
In the 80’s I started nra service rifle with a garand. Most people were shooting m14 pattern rifles. When I went it camp perry in 88 there were still lots of old timers with tuned m1’s competing at high level. They will deliver at 1000 yards with match ammo. I had moved to a m14 by then but the season I shot the m1 was great, and I’ve wanted a good one ever since. I should just get one from the cmp.
Henry have sick shooting skills!. Greetings from Poland.
Whee! The most fun to watch Speedway yet! I was watching to see how quickly Henry could reload with those clips; I've seen it said that an experienced M1 rifleman can keep up with modern box-magazine-fed rifles.
Regarding engagement ranges: I have read that Marines at Belleau Wood, in WWI, engaged German machine gun nests at approx 800yd. While aiming at individuals is laughable, they may have well been able to interfere with the gunners' concentration.
As far as training for extended range shooting; it should make shooting at closer ranges easier and faster.
I mean anything comparing WWII gear with modern anything is always going to be heavily fictionalized. Skilled M1 riflemen could reload more smoothly and quickly that we give them credit for, but the idea that they could outperform a modern box-magazine-fed is pure fantasy.
@@Twilit777 There's lots of people who shoot all sorts of modern equipment that will laude the reloadability of the M1 Garand. Considering there still are areas that limit mags to 5/10 rounds. Which is a modern box magazine.
Comparing it is not a crazy idea. It's less motor skills, gross or fine, than a standard box mag reload. With practice, the M1 holds its own.
@@Twilit777 Good point. I was thinking of comments comparing M1s to M14s with 20 rd mags in old web gear. More than that and the margin is absolutely too great
Great run with a great rifle!! Well done guys!!
Flannel daddy would be proud…🔥🇺🇸
I would love to see an M1 carbine on PA or speedway. Great video as always!
Hi another excellent informative quality content bestest from Scotland Henry nice shooting 👌👌