I have watched those 3DMark scenes so many times looking for artifacts while overclocking GPUs, with voltage mods made by scratching a 2B pencil between some connections.
Similar option was available on the AMD Thoroughbred CPUs. Connect a circuit that was severed on top of the package and you could unlock higher multipliers.
@@shaneeslick I remember I saw a motherboard filled with so many copper parts it looked downright steampunk. Unfortuantely I can't remember what it was
Back in the early 2000s I had an AMD 2000+ MP setup on a 760 chipset board (from memory), it was pretty good but the software I was using for music wasn't multi-threaded at the time! Cool video!
Hyper transport, amds protocol used for the inter CPU communication is actually the direct predecessor of infinity fabric, they are absolutely related. Infinity fabric is just a modern revision with a fancy name. In fact the CPU and memory interconnect design is still used in modern server platforms (Intel and AMD) where each CPU has its own integrated memory controller and a fast link to all other CPUs (QPI on Intel's side) to access the other CPUs memory and for cache coherence. The only odd design are actually amds newest epyc CPUs, moving the memory controller and IO into basically a northbridge again. Funnily enough amd has (had?) a patent on the first memory controllers integrated into the CPU.
i had one of these i kept it for a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time :) i stayed with amd all through the core 2 days and eraly i7 days :) then moved to fx i still love amd fx 8300 chips
I'm lucky enough to own 2 complete mother board CPU sets and the fastest Opteron's offered as well. Its just really fun to own these old rigs. It sits along side my C64 and Amiga as just a few of pieces of my computer collection. Thank you for covering this platform, Its just such an enjoyable rig to work on it has a lot of personality.
I remember the one time I tried a dual-socket build. It was also dual Athlons, but it was a Supermicro board if I recall correctly. I bought these all-copper heatsinks for the CPU's, and being young and dumb, ordered some 60mm Delta fans to cool them. Those lasted about 5 minutes before my roommates threatened to throw my PC out the window if I didn't make it quieter! It was a terrible and unreliable system that wasn't all that fast, but it did teach me quite a few lessons!
Nice throwback. 👍 It was those nForce chipsets that got me into motherboard watercooling in a serious way. Boy did they get hot and loud on air. I even still have my EVGA 680i SLI mobo to this day because on water.....it even beat my Maximus Extreme 1 for stability. It had to be a golden sample for that feat. 😉
I bought one of these a few years back for a commemorative build project (alongside a threadripper 1950X) as a retro-pc, pretty much in near-mint condition w/ topend CPUs & the supplemental cooling fans for a bargain bin price.. ironically it was from an owner who lived in europe (portugal specifically).
Ahh i remember saving and spending ton of money for the complete waste that was AMD X2 platform (especially for overclocking) compared to core2duo that came later. 4200+, Crosshair and G-Skill OC ram... Still loved that board though.
Press F in the Chat for Buildzoids Wrist (ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking) he just broke it having the most vigorous wank of his life over this motherboard and the worst thing is GN Steve was peeking from the cupboard.....
My 1st custom build system was this motherboard with 2x AMD FX-74s running the lovely Win Vista Ultimate. It now sits in a custom shadow box still running Vista's DreamScenes.
I'm a lover of multi cpus since my first Dual Slot 1 Pentium 2/3 system. When AMD released this I was so happy and loved mine except the board died I think due to a burnt or shorted GPU. Was a huge fan of AMD and nForce Especially the integrated audio (Sonata) which was way beyond everything else around(Yes Nvidia made sound cards.. Well integrated audio). I moved to dual Socket G34 AMD opteron and dual Xeon 1366 soon after but this was my all time favorite build with 2 FX 72
i use to have a M3a32-mvp deluxe back in the day with a 955BE.Was pretty sweet the heat pipe to the ram ..Still have my Corsair HX850 watt psu lol in my existing Ryzen build .
I went from an Athlon 1700+ in my first gaming PC with 1GB of DDR 400 MHz and a GeForce 7300. Then to an FX 62 OC’d to 3 GHz with 2 GB DDR2 800 MHz and an 8800 Ultra on an EVGA nForce 590a mobo. then to a Q6600 OC’d to 3.6 GHz with 4 GB DDR2 1066 and SLI 8800 Ultras on an EVGA nForce 780i mobo, then to a liquid cooled Q9650 OC’d to 4.1 GHz with 4 GB DDR3 2000 and 3 way SLI GTX 280s on an ASUS Striker II Extreme nForce 790i Ultra mobo (epic at that time). The Striker II has enough PCI-E lanes for x16/x16/x8 SLI and it was liquid cooled, ran around 40C. On air it would hit 70C, ran real hot. I rigged up a fan to cool it when I retired it as my main rig. Mine also had those cool fans. It only came with one, I had to order more on EBay. One of the best things about that board and CPU is I sold them for $600 like 5 years later.
Back at that time, a friend has an opteron 144 san diego 2 cores, socket 939, in an Asrock 939 DualSata2, glorious 2gb of ram :'v ddr 400 (el cheapo ram), and ocing it like hell!!! (Mine was a socket 754 athlon 64 3000+, before i step up to the budget overclocker core 2 quad q6600, pushing it at 3,6ghz with shitty cooling and shitty ram XD...) Nice platform by the way, just the glory years of AMD, and the crown be taken back by Intel by Conroe, oh glorious lga 775 :v
Unlike now, older motherboard has real heatpipe and heatsink cooler on the chipset. Thus eliminated the need for small fan. I remembered my LanParty days, it has some serious tower heatsink on the chipset and VRM. LOL.
Ouch! That set up was crazy expensive. But really cool. I paid $1000 for a complete CRYSIS rig back in 2007-2008. It was the eVGA nVIDIA nFORCE 680i SLi rev.2 motherboard with a Q6600 (GO stepping) that overclocked to 3.8GHz but could do 4GHz with 1.600v. Of course that was to much voltage, so i left it at 3.8GHz. The set up also came with 8GB of 1200MHz OCZ Platinum SLi ready DDR2 (basically the fastest DDR2 available at the time). Since i was building the rig for CRYSIS i needed 2 GPU. So i found 2 eVGA 512MB 8800GT's for $400 to go with It. $1000 flat for a rig like that was unheard of. I got it from Tiger Direct. Though, today they sell 6th Gen. i5 6600K's for $400. There prices are astronomical. Don't ever buy from Tiger Direct today.
Always amazes me the colors they used to put on motherboards back in the day. Whats even worse is that we used to not even care. Ketchup and mustard was the norm!
The cable colors do not affect anything, neither does cable management unless you are blocking fans on purpose with the wires, it's all for looks. Everyone seems to care more about the form than the function these days. We all pay more for it too.
My Threadripper 3960X has a rated TDP of 280w and under full all core boost max load according to my power meter it pulls 275w to 280w. AMD have nailed their TDP targets.
That's a badass board, thanks for showing it! I want one, or five. :) Never got to play with the FX stuff, sadly. I got myself an E8600 back then, which was really good.
I was poor student at University, so I had no money for this :) So I had Athlon 64 X2 + mainstream Asus MB. PS: very good video, I enjoyed it very well :) Love this enthusiast history :)
oh wow I was so convinced I was gonna buy this shit back in the day, on the back of a part time job. Seeing the benchmarks be shit killed the fanboy in me stone dead
What happened to crazy engineering from Intel and AMD? AMD had the AM2 platform that had enormous compatibility. Intel had the socket 775 which worked with pentium 4's, and all the way up to the core 2 quad, it's just crazy. It's The Quadfather!
AM4 is going pretty strong, it had support for some bulldozer-based APUs, now most x570 boards fire up with any ryzen cpu/apu (yes, even 1st gen ryzen is supported unofficially)
I love dose little fans never seen dis, epic board, I was AMD fanbooi too, semperon and athlons ftwwww, they just took way to long to come bek, glad dey are do
Funny how the tables have turned. This looks like the Intel LGA41xx platform that uses the 3175X today. Equally as rare and expensive. But still can't match the superior sTRX40 in terms of core count and power consumption. Also you can see the marketing on the package: MEGATASKING (Intel used this term last year i believe).
6:50 Intel's QuickPath Interconnect is a better comparison than Infinity Fabric. Actually QPI was developed to compete with AMD's Direct Connect / HyperTransport. It's just that Intel got so far ahead of AMD both in terms of process and architecture around this time that AMD's point-to-point NUMA interconnect was hardly ever seen in the wild despite being a solid technology.
i have always been a big amd/underdog fanboy... but bought a Q6600 G0 once my X2 was getting long in the tooth, and a 8800gtx once it launched, just as i bought a X1950pro because Nvidia's G70 series ran Oblivion like donkeycr*p. Now I have the luxury of choosing AMD, supporting competition despite nvidia having a lot faster gpu, and Intel still holding onto gaming by a fingernail; because now its the difference between 100fps and 130fps, not 20fps and 35fps. we are spoiled edit: that being said, navi drivers are a mess. Now drivers really are the linchpin. In the past it was overblown as a problem, i could not tell you if my GTX 580 or 7970 had better drivers, same with my Vega and 980ti. Now it is clear amd is having problems!
I was wondering when you'd get to this. been seeing it move in the background every video...... 3 man, wish I could play with one. playing with a foxconn bloodrage 1dpc with some Samsung 30nm "wonder ram". core 2 was nuts.... then the skulltrail launched.
Das wichtigste ist doch immer, dass man genau das hat mit dem man sich am besten identifizieren kann. Weil es die schnellste CPU/ Plattform/ Karte ist, die mit dem favorisiertem Chiphersteller möglich ist, oder mit einer bestimmten Konstellation, theoretisch die Leistung der Konkurenz erreicht wird, bzw. damals mit AMD fast schon in greifbare Nähe rückte. Kann mich auch noch bestens daran erinnern, mit einem Asus M4A79-Deluxe, einem Phenom II 965, 8 GB DDR2 1066( oc) und 2 Sapphire HD 4890 Toxic, theoretisch die Leistung einer GTX 295 übertroffen zu haben und noch eine 3. 4890 Toxic kaufte. Was waren die 2 HIS HD 5870 eyefinity 6 leise und performant danach, auch noch auf einem Crosshair formula 5 & nem Phenom II 970 ??!! und mit einer...Intel x25-M! Die und der FX8150 ließen mein AMD Fanboytum dann wohl zuverlässig enden. Zumindest was den Unterbau anging und 2 HIS HD 7970 GHZ IceQ X2 konnten auch nicht verhindern, dass AMD heute für mich so ausgeschlossen ist, wie damals Intel und Nvidia. Von der Existenz dieser Dual-CPU Rarität, wusste ich bislang aber nichts.
Want to tinker with a 2P Rome build stacked with a couple of GPU's running water? My first try was with the Abit BP6 and as crazy as that system was back then, today's dual socket top end boards are just as crazy and complicated to work with.
This remind me of the days i used a MSI speedster 2. It just wasn't good and was outperformed by alot but man i loved that platform :D i used a pair of Opteron 2222's i think they were named. togheter with 4GB of ram.
Ahhh yes, back in the days where enthusiast boards were just color vomit! I remember I had a PSU...it was acrylic, and it had UV activated cables. They were slime green. And I think the acrylic had like a purple hue or something? It was like revenge of the joker and I thought it was hot shit!
Hey Roman, I have this board with the WS/B BIOS running dual 2360SEs and 32Gb of DDR2 ECC Buffered ram to this day, I had a problem with a bad USB cable and thought it killed the board. I want to rewrite the BIOS to add the AGESA so I can run the 2400 series Opterons.
I want one of this in my collection but Athlon 64 FX-7x are still be sold at very high price, and Asus L1N64-SLI WS/B which support Opteron both Santa Rosa and Barcelona is almost impossible to find.
Der8auer, I think CPUs will have to go to direct die in the near future. Even with water cooling, the immediate heat from the silicon is too hot. Similar to GPU direct die with no IHS, the cooling is much better even with a higher TDP. What are your thoughts?
Well there basically no Intel fanbois when Athlon was the current gen. It was cheaper(dont include those FX as this line of cpus showed even intel that you could sell expensive ones) and performed outstanding especially in games. Anybody remember the HW forums back then? Intel sections were totally dead :P
JEEZ, I dont think I can call my self even a AMD fan next to roman, though that being said I primarily chase value over brand/product it just happens that I can get great performance/price value from Ryzen CPUs found on ebay.
Got a Core2Quad machine (assembled in 2008) working very good till this day, the only real slowdown is SATA3 controller on m/b and usb 2.0; for giggles tried Bannerlord on it - it runs pretty good on GF760, especially with no ragdolls and simple particles. And that's 13 years old CPU/chipset ;) "Moor's law" my ass! The actual improvement in PC specs slowed down to a crawl. These days, you mostly pay for rgb and marketing gimmiks.
I have watched those 3DMark scenes so many times looking for artifacts while overclocking GPUs, with voltage mods made by scratching a 2B pencil between some connections.
Oh my god forgot i did that as well. Very enjoyable times though
Overclocking was so much more fun in the olden days
Similar option was available on the AMD Thoroughbred CPUs.
Connect a circuit that was severed on top of the package and you could unlock higher multipliers.
I miss those full copper heatsinks on motherboards.
Yeah, I really liked the Gigabyte & ASUS ones that went from the VRM all the way to the Southbridge & looked like a Mini City with Skyscrapers 😍
@@shaneeslick I remember I saw a motherboard filled with so many copper parts it looked downright steampunk. Unfortuantely I can't remember what it was
@@rogehmarbi The Asus M3N-HT Deluxe/Mempipe version; had two of these, might be what you are thinking of.
@@rogehmarbi There was also a board from Asrock or MSI (cant rember which) that had valve amps on its audio output.
Those real heatsinks
Before painted aluminium slabs counted as "heatsinks".
Early 2000's, those were the days man, those were the days...
you dont have to glue 2 cpus together... if you glue 2 motherboards together!
Enter Intel with 16-socket Socket 604 4-motherboard monster. ONLY HP decided to market it, though.
Back in the early 2000s I had an AMD 2000+ MP setup on a 760 chipset board (from memory), it was pretty good but the software I was using for music wasn't multi-threaded at the time! Cool video!
seeing 3dmark06 was a throw back to my old S939 days with my athlon 64 3700+
Sooo, this was the irracionality project back then :)
Lol, if they lie about cores just use 2 CPUs
Hyper transport, amds protocol used for the inter CPU communication is actually the direct predecessor of infinity fabric, they are absolutely related. Infinity fabric is just a modern revision with a fancy name.
In fact the CPU and memory interconnect design is still used in modern server platforms (Intel and AMD) where each CPU has its own integrated memory controller and a fast link to all other CPUs (QPI on Intel's side) to access the other CPUs memory and for cache coherence. The only odd design are actually amds newest epyc CPUs, moving the memory controller and IO into basically a northbridge again. Funnily enough amd has (had?) a patent on the first memory controllers integrated into the CPU.
Great video! I remember reading reviews of QuadFX platfrom while I was still rocking A64 X2 3600. Good memories indeed :D
i had one of these i kept it for a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time :) i stayed with amd all through the core 2 days and eraly i7 days :) then moved to fx i still love amd fx 8300 chips
Big fan of AMD, loved my Xp1800+ system, but then Core 2 came out (E6300). Still with Intel (i5-4670K) but next build WILL be Ryzen.
Oh my... I am still looking for these for a retro build, such a rare beast.
I'm lucky enough to own 2 complete mother board CPU sets and the fastest Opteron's offered as well. Its just really fun to own these old rigs. It sits along side my C64 and Amiga as just a few of pieces of my computer collection. Thank you for covering this platform, Its just such an enjoyable rig to work on it has a lot of personality.
I remember the one time I tried a dual-socket build. It was also dual Athlons, but it was a Supermicro board if I recall correctly. I bought these all-copper heatsinks for the CPU's, and being young and dumb, ordered some 60mm Delta fans to cool them. Those lasted about 5 minutes before my roommates threatened to throw my PC out the window if I didn't make it quieter! It was a terrible and unreliable system that wasn't all that fast, but it did teach me quite a few lessons!
sadlerbw9 mmm delta fans
Maaan, even the 3dmark 06 bench was nostalgia. xD
@Nathaniel Smith I disagree
Deal with it
And here I am dreaming about having a dual EPYC system.
try to get 20 year later. it would be cheap as dirt
Nice throwback. 👍
It was those nForce chipsets that got me into motherboard watercooling in a serious way. Boy did they get hot and loud on air. I even still have my EVGA 680i SLI mobo to this day because on water.....it even beat my Maximus Extreme 1 for stability. It had to be a golden sample for that feat. 😉
I bought one of these a few years back for a commemorative build project (alongside a threadripper 1950X) as a retro-pc, pretty much in near-mint condition w/ topend CPUs & the supplemental cooling fans for a bargain bin price.. ironically it was from an owner who lived in europe (portugal specifically).
Ahh i remember saving and spending ton of money for the complete waste that was AMD X2 platform (especially for overclocking) compared to core2duo that came later. 4200+, Crosshair and G-Skill OC ram... Still loved that board though.
But hey its not a waste if its more fun!
EVGA Sr-2 was also legendary....
Press F in the Chat for Buildzoids Wrist (ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking) he just broke it having the most vigorous wank of his life over this motherboard and the worst thing is GN Steve was peeking from the cupboard.....
My 1st custom build system was this motherboard with 2x AMD FX-74s running the lovely Win Vista Ultimate. It now sits in a custom shadow box still running Vista's DreamScenes.
I'm a lover of multi cpus since my first Dual Slot 1 Pentium 2/3 system. When AMD released this I was so happy and loved mine except the board died I think due to a burnt or shorted GPU. Was a huge fan of AMD and nForce Especially the integrated audio (Sonata) which was way beyond everything else around(Yes Nvidia made sound cards.. Well integrated audio). I moved to dual Socket G34 AMD opteron and dual Xeon 1366 soon after but this was my all time favorite build with 2 FX 72
Great video, had an Opteron 185 myself back in the time. Cost me an arm and a leg, but good times :)
i use to have a M3a32-mvp deluxe back in the day with a 955BE.Was pretty sweet the heat pipe to the ram ..Still have my Corsair HX850 watt psu lol in my existing Ryzen build .
I repurpose my same build into an unraid nas. Good hardware. Its hard to believe that its almost 2 decades old!
Great to see more content from you der8auer! With love from the UK
I went from an Athlon 1700+ in my first gaming PC with 1GB of DDR 400 MHz and a GeForce 7300. Then to an FX 62 OC’d to 3 GHz with 2 GB DDR2 800 MHz and an 8800 Ultra on an EVGA nForce 590a mobo. then to a Q6600 OC’d to 3.6 GHz with 4 GB DDR2 1066 and SLI 8800 Ultras on an EVGA nForce 780i mobo, then to a liquid cooled Q9650 OC’d to 4.1 GHz with 4 GB DDR3 2000 and 3 way SLI GTX 280s on an ASUS Striker II Extreme nForce 790i Ultra mobo (epic at that time). The Striker II has enough PCI-E lanes for x16/x16/x8 SLI and it was liquid cooled, ran around 40C. On air it would hit 70C, ran real hot. I rigged up a fan to cool it when I retired it as my main rig. Mine also had those cool fans. It only came with one, I had to order more on EBay. One of the best things about that board and CPU is I sold them for $600 like 5 years later.
Back at that time, a friend has an opteron 144 san diego 2 cores, socket 939, in an Asrock 939 DualSata2, glorious 2gb of ram :'v ddr 400 (el cheapo ram), and ocing it like hell!!! (Mine was a socket 754 athlon 64 3000+, before i step up to the budget overclocker core 2 quad q6600, pushing it at 3,6ghz with shitty cooling and shitty ram XD...) Nice platform by the way, just the glory years of AMD, and the crown be taken back by Intel by Conroe, oh glorious lga 775 :v
That was much more interesting than the later Intel's Skulltrail :)
Unlike now, older motherboard has real heatpipe and heatsink cooler on the chipset. Thus eliminated the need for small fan. I remembered my LanParty days, it has some serious tower heatsink on the chipset and VRM. LOL.
Slacker!! Where’s my pots hahah I like the hw legends..
I still have a q6600 from back then... remember the mod to give it a higher multi lol
Give this man his pot
Sir Crimson you tell this slacker
@@BeardedHardware love your content beardman
Sir Crimson I do it for all the slackers!!!
Ouch! That set up was crazy expensive. But really cool.
I paid $1000 for a complete CRYSIS rig back in 2007-2008.
It was the eVGA nVIDIA nFORCE 680i SLi rev.2 motherboard with a Q6600 (GO stepping) that overclocked to 3.8GHz but could do 4GHz with 1.600v. Of course that was to much voltage, so i left it at 3.8GHz. The set up also came with 8GB of 1200MHz OCZ Platinum SLi ready DDR2 (basically the fastest DDR2 available at the time). Since i was building the rig for CRYSIS i needed 2 GPU. So i found 2 eVGA 512MB 8800GT's for $400 to go with It. $1000 flat for a rig like that was unheard of. I got it from Tiger Direct. Though, today they sell 6th Gen. i5 6600K's for $400. There prices are astronomical. Don't ever buy from Tiger Direct today.
Always amazes me the colors they used to put on motherboards back in the day. Whats even worse is that we used to not even care. Ketchup and mustard was the norm!
The cable colors do not affect anything, neither does cable management unless you are blocking fans on purpose with the wires, it's all for looks. Everyone seems to care more about the form than the function these days. We all pay more for it too.
These older motherboards look about 500x better than new boards
3dmark06! I have stared at that 3d mark run so many times in the past on my 939 systems :)
250w now gives you either 64 or 8 cores depending on who makes the cpiu
The fact that this is true makes it even funnier.
3950x has 105w tdp when all cores are running at base 3.5ghz speed, since all cores mostly run at 4ghz or more the actual tdp is like 145w
My Threadripper 3960X has a rated TDP of 280w and under full all core boost max load according to my power meter it pulls 275w to 280w.
AMD have nailed their TDP targets.
Just upgraded my Intel Duel Core Duo 6600 for a Ryzen 7 2700 with an Asus x570 TUF Gaming Plus. Wow! What a difference. Go AMD.
Those Corsair XMS2 sticks really bring me back.
QuadFather vs SkullTrail!
My first AMD build was Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition around 2009 or something and I still keep it as my HW-Legends. (-:
I built one the same for the family and we still use it today, and it's OC'd too, was easy as to OC those Phenom II CPUs.
That's a badass board, thanks for showing it! I want one, or five. :)
Never got to play with the FX stuff, sadly. I got myself an E8600 back then, which was really good.
Tolles Video! Da werden Erinnerungen wach. :)
Very cool motherboard! Love you, dad
I was poor student at University, so I had no money for this :) So I had Athlon 64 X2 + mainstream Asus MB.
PS: very good video, I enjoyed it very well :) Love this enthusiast history :)
Some might call this a guilty pleasure. I call it pure pleasure. Thanks for this, Roman.
I have 3 4200+ CPUs still, they do amazing for retro stuff.
oh wow I was so convinced I was gonna buy this shit back in the day, on the back of a part time job. Seeing the benchmarks be shit killed the fanboy in me stone dead
What happened to crazy engineering from Intel and AMD? AMD had the AM2 platform that had enormous compatibility. Intel had the socket 775 which worked with pentium 4's, and all the way up to the core 2 quad, it's just crazy. It's The Quadfather!
AM4 is going pretty strong, it had support for some bulldozer-based APUs, now most x570 boards fire up with any ryzen cpu/apu (yes, even 1st gen ryzen is supported unofficially)
thats why i boughtt 2011 platform in 2012 :)) not a good idea but fun, still rockin to this day 3930k :) legendary cpu
Nostalgia is such a sweet feeling, isn't it?
That old picture of your system does look nice. I wish you had shown a full shot of the PSU and radiators though =)
I really like this retro hardware!!
missing this pure copper heatsinks so much, compared to present crap, they are superior in every way
My old Abit BP-6 duel Celeron was king back in the day :-)
Oh man this video is pure nostalgia, would have been cool if you threw a 4870 or 8800 GTX in there :)
I love dose little fans never seen dis, epic board, I was AMD fanbooi too, semperon and athlons ftwwww, they just took way to long to come bek, glad dey are do
Funny how the tables have turned. This looks like the Intel LGA41xx platform that uses the 3175X today. Equally as rare and expensive. But still can't match the superior sTRX40 in terms of core count and power consumption.
Also you can see the marketing on the package: MEGATASKING (Intel used this term last year i believe).
The 3175X is not an LGA41xx part, it uses some LGA3xxx socket. The 41xx socket is for upcoming Ice Lake/etc. future server/ws parts.
I like the trip down memory lane. Different.
6:50 Intel's QuickPath Interconnect is a better comparison than Infinity Fabric. Actually QPI was developed to compete with AMD's Direct Connect / HyperTransport. It's just that Intel got so far ahead of AMD both in terms of process and architecture around this time that AMD's point-to-point NUMA interconnect was hardly ever seen in the wild despite being a solid technology.
The time when overclocking was fun...
i have always been a big amd/underdog fanboy... but bought a Q6600 G0 once my X2 was getting long in the tooth, and a 8800gtx once it launched, just as i bought a X1950pro because Nvidia's G70 series ran Oblivion like donkeycr*p. Now I have the luxury of choosing AMD, supporting competition despite nvidia having a lot faster gpu, and Intel still holding onto gaming by a fingernail; because now its the difference between 100fps and 130fps, not 20fps and 35fps. we are spoiled
edit: that being said, navi drivers are a mess. Now drivers really are the linchpin. In the past it was overblown as a problem, i could not tell you if my GTX 580 or 7970 had better drivers, same with my Vega and 980ti. Now it is clear amd is having problems!
I was wondering when you'd get to this. been seeing it move in the background every video...... 3 man, wish I could play with one. playing with a foxconn bloodrage 1dpc with some Samsung 30nm "wonder ram". core 2 was nuts.... then the skulltrail launched.
10:54 socketed bios would be the solution to AMD offering 4000 series support on older motherboards.
This is pretty cool. WIll you make a vid on the SR2 or is not old enough yet?
Das wichtigste ist doch immer, dass man genau das hat mit dem man sich am besten identifizieren kann. Weil es die schnellste CPU/ Plattform/ Karte ist, die mit dem favorisiertem Chiphersteller möglich ist, oder mit einer bestimmten Konstellation, theoretisch die Leistung der Konkurenz erreicht wird, bzw. damals mit AMD fast schon in greifbare Nähe rückte. Kann mich auch noch bestens daran erinnern, mit einem Asus M4A79-Deluxe, einem Phenom II 965, 8 GB DDR2 1066( oc) und 2 Sapphire HD 4890 Toxic, theoretisch die Leistung einer GTX 295 übertroffen zu haben und noch eine 3. 4890 Toxic kaufte. Was waren die 2 HIS HD 5870 eyefinity 6 leise und performant danach, auch noch auf einem Crosshair formula 5 & nem Phenom II 970 ??!! und mit einer...Intel x25-M! Die und der FX8150 ließen mein AMD Fanboytum dann wohl zuverlässig enden. Zumindest was den Unterbau anging und 2 HIS HD 7970 GHZ IceQ X2 konnten auch nicht verhindern, dass AMD heute für mich so ausgeschlossen ist, wie damals Intel und Nvidia. Von der Existenz dieser Dual-CPU Rarität, wusste ich bislang aber nichts.
We had quad SLI via 7900GX2/ 7950GX2 though!, I know its not 4 16x slots occupied but still quad is quad.
Want to tinker with a 2P Rome build stacked with a couple of GPU's running water? My first try was with the Abit BP6 and as crazy as that system was back then, today's dual socket top end boards are just as crazy and complicated to work with.
This remind me of the days i used a MSI speedster 2. It just wasn't good and was outperformed by alot but man i loved that platform :D
i used a pair of Opteron 2222's i think they were named. togheter with 4GB of ram.
And 3d mark 06 is a really familiar sight :D
Ahhh yes, back in the days where enthusiast boards were just color vomit! I remember I had a PSU...it was acrylic, and it had UV activated cables. They were slime green. And I think the acrylic had like a purple hue or something? It was like revenge of the joker and I thought it was hot shit!
@Nathaniel Smith shame is for people under 30 :D
Hey Roman, I have this board with the WS/B BIOS running dual 2360SEs and 32Gb of DDR2 ECC Buffered ram to this day, I had a problem with a bad USB cable and thought it killed the board. I want to rewrite the BIOS to add the AGESA so I can run the 2400 series Opterons.
I want one of this in my collection but Athlon 64 FX-7x are still be sold at very high price, and Asus L1N64-SLI WS/B which support Opteron both Santa Rosa and Barcelona is almost impossible to find.
Der8auer, I think CPUs will have to go to direct die in the near future. Even with water cooling, the immediate heat from the silicon is too hot. Similar to GPU direct die with no IHS, the cooling is much better even with a higher TDP. What are your thoughts?
Cool, love the old stuff
Still rockin' that "first day of school" haircut, I see.
Bruuuuh. It's Jimmy Neutron signature cut
4K waiting room :)
Well there basically no Intel fanbois when Athlon was the current gen. It was cheaper(dont include those FX as this line of cpus showed even intel that you could sell expensive ones) and performed outstanding especially in games. Anybody remember the HW forums back then? Intel sections were totally dead :P
Cool video
*Every SKU, not every CPU in existence. Nobody has that much
If you like it you can never call it stupidity
So this is basically the retro version of your new 3175x system. A platform designed to compete that was dead on arrival. Lol
I remember those but dont recognise them as a couple made thus rare motherboards.
15A at idle? No wonder my parents were really conservative with using their own computers (some Sempron 3000 or so), especially during summer.
thats 15A @ 12V. a sempron 3000 is like 1/10th the power of these beasts.
Did your lights dim when you fired up the benchmarks?
The asus striker extreme had the same vrm fans and it was nforce chipset too.
It failed to boot often because it had the cpu init post bug.
using construction glue instead of thermal paste
ohh, those were the times
i used toothpaste :D
back then VRM heatsink were a proper heatsink
Curious to see if this board can support the 6core Opterons that came out later?
"Megatasking Motherboard" XD
I still have that motherboard running 2 74 FX
ah the legendary Q6600
I watch this video whenever I regret getting a 5820k
You got to have an Abit BP6 in there somewhere right?
Have a asus p5n32-e 680i chipset motherboard sitting in a box somewhere, i can remember the heatsinks on that being hot enough to burn fingers
JEEZ, I dont think I can call my self even a AMD fan next to roman, though that being said I primarily chase value over brand/product it just happens that I can get great performance/price value from Ryzen CPUs found on ebay.
Came here after WAN spoke about how shit the quad FX was
thys 3dmark06 score is draw to one 88GTX. Sadly but best combo with that plat was 3870, 3870X2 cuz of lower driver load.
I feel old lol.
This was the bad area for AMD. Intel Core was realy good back then, Quad Core 9550 on 775, the cheap i7!
The cheap i7 was the q6600, the q9550 was the "i9" back then XD
@Nathaniel Smith and I need to do research because? Lecture comprehension plz
I ran an i7-950 from Dec 2009 to roughly Summer 2019. Almost a decade of Intel Quad Core.
Wish we had more xoc options from amd/intel. Been a while since anything ridiculous like this has come around...
Got a Core2Quad machine (assembled in 2008) working very good till this day, the only real slowdown is SATA3 controller on m/b and usb 2.0; for giggles tried Bannerlord on it - it runs pretty good on GF760, especially with no ragdolls and simple particles. And that's 13 years old CPU/chipset ;) "Moor's law" my ass! The actual improvement in PC specs slowed down to a crawl. These days, you mostly pay for rgb and marketing gimmiks.