The Victory outreach home is not Christian discipleship but a manipulative way of training and shaping people to be profitable for the group and it's leaders. Please don't forget God never promised Sonny or VO to give them treasures out of darkness. The treasures in Isaiah 45:2-3 are not drug addicts, gang members etc, those treasures in Isaiah 45 are not even humans. It is helpful to know that VO started by a word that clearly DID NOT come from God, but was just fallen man inserting THEIR OWN VISION into the bible (as noble as the vision may appear). Please remember that VO'S message of "god loves you" and "jesus has a plan for your life" was NEVER preached by ANY person that spoke for God from Genesis to Revelation, this message is simply a manipulative way of recruiting vulnerable people in order to one day train them to be profitable for the group. Dear friends reaching the lost is an absolute command from scripture and a privilege to be apart of, but VO's method of going to the vulnerable using manipulative methods to get them to say a prayer in order to recruit them only to use more manipulative methods to change, shape and mould them so that they can be an asset to the group is NOT discipleship! Nor is using manipulative methods to keep them in the group. I realise that the ONLY response that a cult has to what is being asserted here is..... I must be a backslider, I'm coming against God's anointed, I'm bitter, I'm coming against a move of God (according to their experience) but NOT according to scripture. But I challenge you my friends to see if you can refrain from calling names and just show everyone where what I am saying is ACTUALLY wrong. Grace and Peace. Shane
You are certainly entitled to an opinion but the fact that thousands of lives have neen changed and restored by the gospel i think that is proof enough as the word states by their fruit you shall know them. So now , you say God did not give their pastor the word that he would give them treasures out of darkness... There is a difference in saying i dont believe he was given the word and saying God did not give him the word. Be careful to soeak for God. Jesus spoke in parables and God speaks to his people in various ways please research the word of God or i pray you already did. Be blessed
@@ursulapareja9633 my friend, God has already spoke for Himself and Sonny has tried to change what God said about Cyrus and made it about himself and this is delusional and lying about what God intended to say. Cults always begin with 3 words!! GOD TOLD ME..... and the rest is a vision from their own hearts!
@@defendingthefaith9854 Hi, again you are entitled to what you want to think but VO or not Jesus died for you too and time is running out and on the end of the day the only opinion that counts is the creators. So I urge you to give Jesus a chance because he is who he says he is .
Yo this is when my dad was thin
Even when Andrew had short hair
What city is this VO from?
The Victory outreach home is not Christian discipleship but a manipulative way of training and shaping people to be profitable for the group and it's leaders. Please don't forget God never promised Sonny or VO to give them treasures out of darkness. The treasures in Isaiah 45:2-3 are not drug addicts, gang members etc, those treasures in Isaiah 45 are not even humans. It is helpful to know that VO started by a word that clearly DID NOT come from God, but was just fallen man inserting THEIR OWN VISION into the bible (as noble as the vision may appear). Please remember that VO'S message of "god loves you" and "jesus has a plan for your life" was NEVER preached by ANY person that spoke for God from Genesis to Revelation, this message is simply a manipulative way of recruiting vulnerable people in order to one day train them to be profitable for the group.
Dear friends reaching the lost is an absolute command from scripture and a privilege to be apart of, but VO's method of going to the vulnerable using manipulative methods to get them to say a prayer in order to recruit them only to use more manipulative methods to change, shape and mould them so that they can be an asset to the group is NOT discipleship! Nor is using manipulative methods to keep them in the group. I realise that the ONLY response that a cult has to what is being asserted here is..... I must be a backslider, I'm coming against God's anointed, I'm bitter, I'm coming against a move of God (according to their experience) but NOT according to scripture. But I challenge you my friends to see if you can refrain from calling names and just show everyone where what I am saying is ACTUALLY wrong.
Grace and Peace.
Shane
You are certainly entitled to an opinion but the fact that thousands of lives have neen changed and restored by the gospel i think that is proof enough as the word states by their fruit you shall know them. So now , you say God did not give their pastor the word that he would give them treasures out of darkness... There is a difference in saying i dont believe he was given the word and saying God did not give him the word. Be careful to soeak for God. Jesus spoke in parables and God speaks to his people in various ways please research the word of God or i pray you already did. Be blessed
Defending The Faith were you ever part of the VO?
Ursula Pareja your right bro God uses different vessels for his work but I just started going to Victory Out Reach and I like how its family oriented
@@ursulapareja9633 my friend, God has already spoke for Himself and Sonny has tried to change what God said about Cyrus and made it about himself and this is delusional and lying about what God intended to say.
Cults always begin with 3 words!!
GOD TOLD ME..... and the rest is a vision from their own hearts!
@@defendingthefaith9854 Hi, again you are entitled to what you want to think but VO or not Jesus died for you too and time is running out and on the end of the day the only opinion that counts is the creators. So I urge you to give Jesus a chance because he is who he says he is .