Here’s my argument for Forty being my favorite. I disliked him when he first came on the screen, and loved him by the time he died. He was gaslit and underestimated by everyone in his life, from his best friend twin to the grocery store associates. He struggled terribly. He thought he was guilty of murder and fell deeply into the void of trying to drown our pain and guilt in substances. He was honest, and this caused people to think less of him. Almost every lead character benefited from lying and ran with it, Forty did not. Even down to his questionable and not defined sexual orientation was so very relatable and somewhat sad to me. I know he can’t be number one, but that’s just another reason I like him more. If Forty wasn’t a twin, he’d be the middle child.
I think forty threw everyone off a little Bec I thought within the first 5 mins of meeting him on the show I wouldn’t really like him but throughout the season there were things that made me like forty and things that made me dislike forty but honestly I don’t think I realized how important he was and how much of a great character he actually was until he was shot. Just thinking about everything he went through is just so sad to see it end like that he had no justice at all. All he wanted was to be someone.
Josh deveaux I mean, some people could say him dating a woman says he’s straight. But he also playfully asks Joe if he’d fuck him when they were tripping. As a person who doesn’t fit into a “defined sexuality” myself I loved that about him. I love the playful nature of Forty, down to his seeming openness about sexuality. That might be me projecting a little, as I am open and fluid with my sexuality. I just really appreciate the character and how he was played.
Josh deveaux throughout the season he gives off some homosexual vibes I think, like when asking joe if he’d f him and just the way he is jealous of joe and love. I think it’s a pretty good theory🤷♂️
I actually really liked Peach, I mean sure she was a pyschotic bich and she was too much to handle at times (all the time tbh lol) but Joe and Peach's constant banter and "competition" were one of the funniest and enjoyable parts of S1
Also as controlling and manipulative as Peach was she was literally the only person who cared about Beck and could have maybe even given her a happy ending unlike Joe.
When beck tweeted “to everyone out there chasing their dreams, don’t give up. and in the meantime, mac n cheese.” I knew she was gonna die Edit: I wasnt joking i was serious. Edit 2: thanks 4 likes lol
Candace character was so bad, they made you hate her, even though she was the only sane and innocent person in the story. We’re supposed to be rooting for Candace but instead I was rooting for joe the whole show.
She wasn’t all to innocent she never loved joe and as the officer said about her in one episode she had a criminal record wonder why she was with someone she didn’t love.
ArkSmiley yeah, ofc and she did cheat which is awfully wrong. And joe didn’t try and kill her he was just so in love and sick that he kidnapped her to prove how much he loves her and accidentally almost killed her, trust me I hated her and thought she was super annoying.
Osn kekeke she was supposed to be the strong confident woman character, but instead she somehow came off bitchy and even almost like she thought she was better than everyone.
Peach was annoyng but she don’t deserve be the last in this list, i mean his rivalry with Joe was one of the best things of season 1 and she was perfect for the bitchy and mean girl caracter
Noo peach deserved last she just seemed so unnecessary And the show really would have been the same without her she was just there getting in the way of things I know all shows need a conflict but she needed something more
Candace should've easily come in last place. No matter how well her character was or wasn't written, the actress was horrible and repulsive to watch, especially alongside phenomenal actors. How she was cast in this show is positively mystifying.
I don't care abt Beck. She was fine from what I remeber 😕 On the other hand.. I remember (faintly) Peach downright sucked. But God, Candace ANNOYED ME SO BAD. I'm sorry here for the actress I'm sure she's great but I gotta say... She does not belong here, she looks off, her physique didn't fit (sorry) and nor did the characters emotion get explored enough.. It reminded me of 'Mary' from Supernatural. Not all that great. She didn't send the emotions through enough and she pissed me off with how she destroyed Joes plans. She didn't even succed which seems like a waste of time. She has problems. I don't really understand her.. She wanted him to go to prison but nooo, now wants revenge. She got what was coming for her. Too bad she considered the punishment given by the judge would be not enough. Now he's not going to get any.
I liked Candance, I was rooting for her more that I was for Joe, from the moment I realised she was hiding some ptsd behind that persona I felt sorry for her, but I understand why people hated her character, it's not well defined or developed
Her character wasnt well developed or defined but if you actually put yourself in her shoes.. being left for dead, waking up in the ground, going to the police and them telling you theres nothing you can do about it.. Its understandable why she came back for revenge.
manic maniac my issue is that I thought her revenge/effort would be better! I read the books and (spoiler) she stays dead in the book. So I was interested to see what they did with her storyline. I loved Candaces and Joes scenes in that food place where he’s terrified, and I expected more from that and her plan to destroy him. But it just didn’t live up to my expectations
@@lexidannielle9094 Exactly, that's what made me root for her. I hoped we had spend more time with her, maybe an episode told from her perspective like they did with Beck in season 1 would have been interesting
@@kaylajones677 This is why, like I said, I started to like her more when I saw that despite that confidence she is still vulnerable and traumatized and she never had a plan cause she's not a sociopath like Joe, she is just looking for some closure. That's more relatable than having her go through this elaborate plan of revenge
Johandry Tenias totally get where you’re coming from about it being relatable! I guess I’m more focusing on plot devices rather than what’s realistic ☺️
Karen is a honorable mention. While it was set up for people to dislike her and want Beck back around I hated how Joe just dumped her. She was a good girlfriend to him, and a great neighbor to Paco and his mom. She also knew Joe had weird ways from seeing the basement/the cage to help Paco’s mom, remember she thanked Beck for giving her a free “Get away from Joe Goldberg card”.
I can't believe the actual Will Bettelheim wasn't number one lmao, that guy was great. Really glad to see that someone else loved Delilah as much as I did though, she should have been top 3.
And #1 is will Will was a very unique character he was kinda there to be like joes conscious in a way as well as his tech guy we felt for will he was truly the only down to earth character and when he gets set free and we find out he's with his gf and still friends with joe it just makes us feel so happy I wish we would have seen more of will maybe he'll come into the third season anyways folks that's our list what did you guys think let us know in the comments below
A K I was all for Candace in the beginning of this series but she felt like an absolute waste of a character with how she was killed off and her ending.
I am surprised how this channel is so small. Your videos are so well-made and thought out. The way you talk adds to that a lot - your voice is so calm and soothing. Also... I agree. Penn does an extraordinary job playing Joe.
The people who say: "oh Delilah was such a b*tch and she did it to herself" What would you do if you suspect a serial killer and try to protect your little sister her death was not deserved!
Love is really n.1 character , her acting is bomb and the character is so intersting . I really wished that Delailah stayed more on the screen . Penn acting is amazing honestly , and i dont think other actor can be suitable for the character more than penn.
I don't like Peach either, but I'm not denying the actress was great. In fact, she did so well that it made people hate her. My reason for not liking her is that she was just always rude for no reason. Even the first time she met Joe, she purposefully would say his name wrong. And when she was faking being sick, he tried to drive her and Beck to the hospital, but she still chewed him out for there being traffic - which isn't his fault at all. She was just very whiney, mean, and not to mention she didn't even care about Beck's writing.
@@poodleman3356 It is realistic in a way because children do get freaked out and go "um??" Plus he seemed to only trust Joe atm and seeing Beck in the basement where Joe didn't want anyone go in to probably confused him more.
Everyone forgets that Paco thought that when Beck said that Joe had done bad things that she was talking about killing Ron, a crime that was A) pretty justified and B) he was an accomplice in.
I LOVE DELILAH, forty was annoying at first, but he grew on me, hes not top tier but i like him. edit- i actually really hate Joe, i relate to him as the "nice guy" but hes extreme, and it pisses me off, hes amazing as a character and he is 1 as far as performance goes, but i only watch to see his downfall, i cant wait for it, i dont root for him at all, everywhere he goes destruction follows. and Ellie should know the truth, and seek revenge, shes smart enough to, just like her sister and Delilah DESERVES to have her sister get revenge for her.
Curlspray that & how he got shot in the head unexpectedly at the end of the movie. Also I think releasing a movie or Candice resembles how “daisy” is so close but out of his reach.
Joe was constantly doing things for her and she barely acknowledged it. And plus, she was really dumb and she wanted to be liked, even if that ment lying to the people who are close to her. So yeah, I didn't really like her either.
@@ravenclawisthebesthart7313 I can't really remember specifics. I watched S1 once, cannot watch it again. I think I may have blocked it out. The thing that I remember distinctly is how annoyed I was when I found out she lied about her father. Like you can have a shit relationship with a shit dad without lying and saying he's dead.
Ever since Dexter ended, I’m so glad we got a show that follows something so similar while being it’s own thing. I love how Dexter is even mentioned in it too.
Not gonna lie I was shook when I saw paco that low but you have a good point story wise there’s just too much for him to compete with to be higher on the list but I wish that there would’ve been something at least a little reference to paco in season 2 but even if we don’t hear about paco again he’ll still have a spot in my heart:(
I disagree with Ellie being number three. I found that she was trying to be an adult, but when it came to the end she didnt want grow up quick. They also told her to stay away from Henderson, but she didn't listen. This led to Joe accidentally killing him and eventually leading Delilah to being trapped because she discovered what Joe did. That's just what I think 🤷♀️ I also thought that the Milo character wasn't handsome. I don't know why tho.
Ice Bear I disagree. She was only 15 and like any 15 year old thought “her life was so unfair, I can’t wait to grow up” when adults were trying to help her. She didn’t understand Henderson was a rapist, she was naive and simply thought he was her friend who was interested in helping her to become a film maker. Now, I didn’t like her reaction to her sister telling her Henderson molested her but to be fair, she was just trying to process and speaking as someone who has been sexually abused in the past, anger, denial and bargaining are all reactions from people you tell. Much like grief. Your second point. If Ellie hadn’t have left Henderson alone like she was told, Joe wouldn’t have “accidentally killed him” Joe is a series killer, that has already been established. He killed him by accident but if he hadn’t have gone down the stairs he would have gone another way entirely intentionally. In short, if he didn’t kill him that time he would have killed him the next time for another reason. Perhaps for Delilah As for the end, we got a brief glimpse into her past when she was speaking with Love and it sounded like her and her sister already had to grow up fast, she didn’t mind being “grown up” when she had her sister beside her but she was left all alone and told to live in Florida by herself at “basically 16” So I ask you. Who would not get upset about doing that?
The twist about Love wasn't suprising for me at all. But I also haven't liked her before. Forty on the other hand was my fav from Season 2. My ranking: 9 Candace 8 Love 7 Paco 6 Peach 5 Beck Delilah /Ellie (can't decide) 2 Forty 1 Joe
When season 1 ended I was so excited for Candace and what she has in store. I was so ready for her to make Joe's life hell, but I don't know why but she really fell short. Firstly, because they didn't show her at all the first few episodes and gave us a very intense storyline to follow and then suddenly threw her in there and she just seemed like a distraction from the main story. And she didn't bring the wrath, the aggression the pain and revenge well on screen, and literally had no plan to actually make Joe's life hell. Plus I'm super mad at her because she's kinda the reason Forty's dead.
1. Love 2. Will 3. Joe 4. Forty lol 5. Delilah 6. Paco 7. Ellie 8. Peach 9. Beck 10. Candace Love is the best character imo. Not the most likable, but the BEST. The truly great villains are the ones who make the story interesting and raise the stakes. Not only is she well-written but Victoria Pedretti brings her madness to life beautifully. I was captivated every time she was on screen. She’s a big reason why season 2 is better than 1.
I don't understand why people hates Beck, I really liked her, I mean she was a girl with a lot of problems that just wanted to be socially accepted by people and wanted to be loved, but she thought that no one could really love her, and that's why she cheated on Joe because she was emotionally unstable and a mess, but she deserved better💔 I really hated Joe when he killed beck 😡
Enrique Bojorquez People find it easy to hate realistically written female characters, and find it easy to excuse the behaviours of toxic male ones. A lot of is rooted in an unconscious gender bias, unfortunately.
Penn was great in season 1 but holy fuck did he bring it in season 2. His facial expressions especially when he’s sitting across from Candace and he’s terrified stays with me. Such an amazing actor
My faves: 1) Will (the real Will - I'm just happy he's alive and happy with Gigi in Manila, one of the characters I had some hope for. He's precious, please protect him) 2) Ellie (I feel bad for her because of what happened to Delilah, also she's smart and real - I also have a soft spot for her because she was in Jane The Virgin, which is one of my fave shows ever) 3) Delilah (she's the most real, honest and the least BS character, yet she also has a soft heart) 4) Forty (he might be messed up, but he's actually a good guy, even if he's so hella broken. He just needed someone to look out for him, and I ain't talking about Love) 5) Candace (even after what happened to her, she's still determined to protect the Quinn siblings, even if she knows that Joe was with them and is dangerous) 6) Joe and Love (they're crazy but very interesting characters, but I normally don't put psychotic characters as one of my top faves)
@@molepole1998 I thought she was interesting and I liked her vibe, she was a good antagonist and when she took Beck to that getaway was an amazing episode. I was upset when she died.
Love was soooooo much better than Beck. She was far more complex and *actually* changed Joe for the better by making him look into the mirror and acknowledge that he can’t love the person he deserves to have. Joe clearly doesn’t change after Beck, he still thinks he’s some sort of a hero who will fix people’s problems. It’ll be interesting to see how Season 3 turns out with Love now in the equation.
I think you got joe wrong. You make him out like he actually cared about “damaged people” like forty, he saw forty as an inconvenience and was prepared to kill him just to be with love. And no, not everyone was rooting for Joe
BrainPilot in that sense I agree. He cares for kids but that doesn’t make him any less of an awful person. He ruined Ellie’s life by getting her sister killed, now she’s on the run all alone
BrainPilot The only reason Joe helped Delilah and Ellie was to prove to himself he was a good enough person for Love. He was always getting something out of helping people.
@Shinji Yup, your point hasn't been discussed enough. Joe is always trying to justify his actions and rationalize his behavior because he truly believes he's a good person or can become a better person. It could be said that he truly care for kids like Paco and Ellie because they remind Joe of him when he was mistreated during his upbringing. So Joe wants to provide a better life for them so they don't end up becoming the next "Joe".
I like Beck a lot not for her character but the interactions between her and Joe. Joe trying to fix everything in Becks life and manage everything is what made season 1 great for me
I was so estatic to see Jenna Ortega in this how after growing up watching Stuck In The Middle! She's a great actor (imo) and I can't wait to see what other roles she gets!
Shay Mitchell fits the role of Peach Salinger so much. Being the typical it girl herself, she brought the role of Peach to life. From being the shy character in PLL, she revolved to being this confident queen bee in You which makes her a good antagonist (in Joe's life) and also playing a big role in Beck's life. Shay Mitchell did so good.
My boyfriend literally looks like a slightly younger Joe. The jaw, the lips, the eyebrows, the hair, the expressions, EVERYTHING is almost spot on. This show made me skeptical of my boyfriends intentions lmao
Nobody wants your pity foolish mortal. We watch the show together and he agrees. Even my grandma called me to ask me if I’ve seen it yet and that he looks like my boyfriend 😂
I think beck was my favorite cause she was sooo real and ordinary. Her depth wasnt endless cause most people aren't that deep and she was a bit of lost person and screw up cause she was in her 20s. Easily the most realistic character
The problem with Candace was that she seemed evil, dislikable, vindictive etc. which meant that it was hard to root for her. She was supposed to be the unlucky, innocent and only sane girl who was buried alive and not believed by anyone. Instead she just became the annoying character with no real depth or development. They could’ve done so much with her arc and history but nothing really came of it.
Pen Badgley is REALLY good. Tbh actors that are really famous with their past works/characters tends to overshadow their new characters (e.g. some actors in series like Vampire Diaries or FRIENDS). I seriously thought I would still find the “Dan Humphrey” he played in Gossip Girl in this series, but I couldn’t. His “Joe Goldberg” is phenomenal, he really acts creepy and mentally ill yet I still find myself empathizing towards his character. Pen Badgley is a really good actor and he deserves an award.
Mine are Joe - Extremely Interesting, Mysterious, & Charismatic Delilah - Ever since her appearance I loved her, everything about her Will - He understood Joe more than anyone ever has/he didn’t tell anyone Joes secret Forty - A bit dramatic but really likable and funny Paco - His relationship with Joe is what stands out Ellie - Intelligent, funny, and relatable
my list 1.Love 2.joe 3.delilah 4.Ellie 5.Forty 6.Will 7.Candace 8.Beck 9.Peach 10. Paco( i kinda hate this character but i dont know what to say instead of him so :/
Hmmm I agree with your list, I do think that Peach did a good job, I was scared for her, maybe because I like Shay. Delilah and Ellie were my favorite this season. I was shocked when we found out she was dead. Forty on the other hand yes great performance but at the end of the season I just wanted him to die, he was to much. And I do believe we were so focus in Joe thoughts that made us dislike Candace, she was clearly the hero.
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We must protect the real Will Bettelheim at all costs
will is literally the best character he did nothing bad at all
javei he did do some shady stuff on the dark web but other than that... he was great
javei as far as we saw, he didn’t do anything and.
Yes and no.... there was some reason that he had to completely change his entire identity... we just dont know what it is.
Stop being stupid
He is the best character but he did do bad stuff
DELILAH DESERVED BETTER.
I loved her so much
I thought she was super rude and agressive. My least favourite character.
She did it to herself . She deserved nothing
Imani girl shut the fuck up lmao you sound ignorant and sad.
Farts are Funny she literally had like 10 seconds to process but okay...
The real will is the best character
He was a cool dude
I WAS GONNA SAY
Facts he was such a chill guy
Period
Terence Matsune yup
Where is Will this is outrageous it's unfair
Will is too pure for this world
Take a seat young Gary Jamieson
Out of all the arcs and stories my favourite in s2 was will and Joe's
Will is the absolute best
Will is number 1 idk
Here’s my argument for Forty being my favorite. I disliked him when he first came on the screen, and loved him by the time he died. He was gaslit and underestimated by everyone in his life, from his best friend twin to the grocery store associates. He struggled terribly. He thought he was guilty of murder and fell deeply into the void of trying to drown our pain and guilt in substances. He was honest, and this caused people to think less of him. Almost every lead character benefited from lying and ran with it, Forty did not. Even down to his questionable and not defined sexual orientation was so very relatable and somewhat sad to me. I know he can’t be number one, but that’s just another reason I like him more. If Forty wasn’t a twin, he’d be the middle child.
I think forty threw everyone off a little Bec I thought within the first 5 mins of meeting him on the show I wouldn’t really like him but throughout the season there were things that made me like forty and things that made me dislike forty but honestly I don’t think I realized how important he was and how much of a great character he actually was until he was shot. Just thinking about everything he went through is just so sad to see it end like that he had no justice at all. All he wanted was to be someone.
Since when is his sexuality undefined?
Josh deveaux I mean, some people could say him dating a woman says he’s straight. But he also playfully asks Joe if he’d fuck him when they were tripping. As a person who doesn’t fit into a “defined sexuality” myself I loved that about him. I love the playful nature of Forty, down to his seeming openness about sexuality. That might be me projecting a little, as I am open and fluid with my sexuality. I just really appreciate the character and how he was played.
Josh deveaux throughout the season he gives off some homosexual vibes I think, like when asking joe if he’d f him and just the way he is jealous of joe and love. I think it’s a pretty good theory🤷♂️
Evan Myers that doesn’t make his sexuality undefined that makes you skeptical
Let’s all be realistic.......we all didn’t expect Delilah to be murdered and be murdered by Love
I second that!
Elijah M. I genuinely cried when Delilah died 😂😂 I kinda had a feeling before he went into the locker though
Unfortunately i had it spoiled for me due to memes and me not binging it all at once
Elijah M. I did expect Love killing Delilah. And when she was puking over the trash can I knew she was going to turn around and kill Candace too.
I did
I actually really liked Peach, I mean sure she was a pyschotic bich and she was too much to handle at times (all the time tbh lol) but Joe and Peach's constant banter and "competition" were one of the funniest and enjoyable parts of S1
Yeah their “rivalry” was really fun to watch
Nah,just stfu she was a beast tbh😂
Yup I felt the same. I think Shay played her well .
Also as controlling and manipulative as Peach was she was literally the only person who cared about Beck and could have maybe even given her a happy ending unlike Joe.
Curry in a hurry No she was horrible. She was like Joe without a dick and that says a lot.
When beck tweeted “to everyone out there chasing their dreams, don’t give up. and in the meantime, mac n cheese.” I knew she was gonna die
Edit: I wasnt joking i was serious.
Edit 2: thanks 4 likes lol
Ken she deserved it just for that
😂😂😂 thank you for that laugh
😭😭
She wasn’t talking about ‘Mac n cheese’, she was talking about what good pussy sounds like
You saying thanks to 4 likes is very much *Humble*
Candace character was so bad, they made you hate her, even though she was the only sane and innocent person in the story. We’re supposed to be rooting for Candace but instead I was rooting for joe the whole show.
So true
She wasn’t all to innocent she never loved joe and as the officer said about her in one episode she had a criminal record wonder why she was with someone she didn’t love.
ArkSmiley yeah, ofc and she did cheat which is awfully wrong. And joe didn’t try and kill her he was just so in love and sick that he kidnapped her to prove how much he loves her and accidentally almost killed her, trust me I hated her and thought she was super annoying.
Osn kekeke she was supposed to be the strong confident woman character, but instead she somehow came off bitchy and even almost like she thought she was better than everyone.
Giselle it’s a show not that serious 😂
I can’t believe we lost Delilah and Forty.. sad we wont see more of them in season 3
cnp53 seriously I loved them both like... so much. Forty dying was seriously tragic
But we didn't lose Ellie!! I hope she will be in season 3
I miss Delilah more
You kidding?! I miss Beck the most!
WeirdPep um...
Peach was annoyng but she don’t deserve be the last in this list, i mean his rivalry with Joe was one of the best things of season 1 and she was perfect for the bitchy and mean girl caracter
The last on the list should've been Candance followed by Beck.
Noo peach deserved last she just seemed so unnecessary And the show really would have been the same without her she was just there getting in the way of things I know all shows need a conflict but she needed something more
Candace should've easily come in last place. No matter how well her character was or wasn't written, the actress was horrible and repulsive to watch, especially alongside phenomenal actors. How she was cast in this show is positively mystifying.
I don't care abt Beck. She was fine from what I remeber 😕
On the other hand.. I remember (faintly) Peach downright sucked. But God, Candace ANNOYED ME SO BAD. I'm sorry here for the actress I'm sure she's great but I gotta say... She does not belong here, she looks off, her physique didn't fit (sorry) and nor did the characters emotion get explored enough.. It reminded me of 'Mary' from Supernatural. Not all that great. She didn't send the emotions through enough and she pissed me off with how she destroyed Joes plans. She didn't even succed which seems like a waste of time. She has problems. I don't really understand her.. She wanted him to go to prison but nooo, now wants revenge. She got what was coming for her. Too bad she considered the punishment given by the judge would be not enough. Now he's not going to get any.
I liked Candance, I was rooting for her more that I was for Joe, from the moment I realised she was hiding some ptsd behind that persona I felt sorry for her, but I understand why people hated her character, it's not well defined or developed
Her character wasnt well developed or defined but if you actually put yourself in her shoes.. being left for dead, waking up in the ground, going to the police and them telling you theres nothing you can do about it.. Its understandable why she came back for revenge.
manic maniac my issue is that I thought her revenge/effort would be better! I read the books and (spoiler) she stays dead in the book. So I was interested to see what they did with her storyline. I loved Candaces and Joes scenes in that food place where he’s terrified, and I expected more from that and her plan to destroy him. But it just didn’t live up to my expectations
@@lexidannielle9094 Exactly, that's what made me root for her. I hoped we had spend more time with her, maybe an episode told from her perspective like they did with Beck in season 1 would have been interesting
@@kaylajones677 This is why, like I said, I started to like her more when I saw that despite that confidence she is still vulnerable and traumatized and she never had a plan cause she's not a sociopath like Joe, she is just looking for some closure. That's more relatable than having her go through this elaborate plan of revenge
Johandry Tenias totally get where you’re coming from about it being relatable! I guess I’m more focusing on plot devices rather than what’s realistic ☺️
If Forty or Delilah isn’t first imma pull a Love
Great comment!
Lidia Sanchez - LMFAOAOAOAOAO MEEEEE.
Lidia Sanchez Forty was fucking annoying
K but can we make “pulling a Love” a thing
Well, you see, I hope you stay true to your word
I'm assuming Will isn't in this because he said he's ranking "main" characters.
Karen is a honorable mention. While it was set up for people to dislike her and want Beck back around I hated how Joe just dumped her. She was a good girlfriend to him, and a great neighbor to Paco and his mom. She also knew Joe had weird ways from seeing the basement/the cage to help Paco’s mom, remember she thanked Beck for giving her a free “Get away from Joe Goldberg card”.
Delilah was the purest person and the top character don’t @ me
I was so disappointed when she was killed OMG
No Will Bettleheim was
Georgia O’Connor IKR. She was one of my favorites
I wouldn't say pure, she was actually messed up by people like Henderson. But she definitely deserved better
@@drippystaff5657 it wasn’t her fault he abused her but she has a good heart tf
Candace reminds me of some secondary characters in gossip girl, like why are you here?
that is literally the best way ever to put it
Yes, I couldn't pot my finger on it. She reminded me of Charlie from Gossip Girl.
Vanessa
The "actress" who plays Candace comes off as a failed soap opera star addicted to botox who plays shitty country music on the side.
Omg I love that show. 😂
Ethan from season 1 deserves to be mentioned.
Pals P he was so likable
Pals P ikr he’s soooo underrated
Who ?
Mah M the guy joe worked with in the bookstore
omg YESSS, he's precious, please protect him
I can't believe the actual Will Bettelheim wasn't number one lmao, that guy was great.
Really glad to see that someone else loved Delilah as much as I did though, she should have been top 3.
Delilah and the real Will were the best characters. One got the happy ending he so well deserves and the other deserved soooo much better
And #1 is will
Will was a very unique character he was kinda there to be like joes conscious in a way as well as his tech guy we felt for will he was truly the only down to earth character and when he gets set free and we find out he's with his gf and still friends with joe it just makes us feel so happy I wish we would have seen more of will maybe he'll come into the third season anyways folks that's our list what did you guys think let us know in the comments below
This is how I would rate them
1. Will (obviously)
2. Joe
3. Forty
4. Delilah
5. Love
6. Beck
7. Ellie
8. Paco
9. Candace
10. Peach
Olivia C yeah I agree
Beck is way too high on this list. You like her more than Ellie and Paco?!
DaPenguinNinja Beck is way too low*
Candace deserves a higher place!
A K I was all for Candace in the beginning of this series but she felt like an absolute waste of a character with how she was killed off and her ending.
I am surprised how this channel is so small. Your videos are so well-made and thought out. The way you talk adds to that a lot - your voice is so calm and soothing.
Also... I agree. Penn does an extraordinary job playing Joe.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy my videos!
The people who say: "oh Delilah was such a b*tch and she did it to herself" What would you do if you suspect a serial killer and try to protect your little sister her death was not deserved!
sftpetrova People who say that are potential Joe’s
Love is really n.1 character , her acting is bomb and the character is so intersting .
I really wished that Delailah stayed more on the screen .
Penn acting is amazing honestly , and i dont think other actor can be suitable for the character more than penn.
Agree with everything.
IKR
100%%
Candace was such a disappointment!! I had hoped she’d stay in the series as the one who would eventually take joe down, maybe that can be Ellie
My heart was crushed when I found out Delilah was dead😭
“Is Love better than Beck?” Yes. That’s all.
ParadoxlnABox I totally agree 🙃but next season Blake lively will make an impact
no
i think i'm the only one who liked Peach hahaha
You're definitely not. I loved her!
My sister loved her just because she was in Pretty Little Liars. Lol
Yes
MrBeard 3000 I didn’t think Peach was as bad as Joe thought she was!
Natalie Loves I thought Shay Mitchell played her well and I also felt like I could relate to her weirdly enough 🙃
i dont get why any of these reaction channels dont like peach. i think shay played her role really well
I don't like Peach either, but I'm not denying the actress was great. In fact, she did so well that it made people hate her. My reason for not liking her is that she was just always rude for no reason. Even the first time she met Joe, she purposefully would say his name wrong. And when she was faking being sick, he tried to drive her and Beck to the hospital, but she still chewed him out for there being traffic - which isn't his fault at all. She was just very whiney, mean, and not to mention she didn't even care about Beck's writing.
Soooooooo, we gonna just act like Will didn’t inspire us all to see the good in ourselves?
The blonde "Will" deserved placement on this list.
Peach was one of the best characters I've seen in a while..
Coreychristo same
I honestly hated Paco. Good acting and I liked what Joe did for him but Beck
Hate him because he didn't help? Or
@@LIS-bu6lm just because he didn't help beck. She was one of my favs from s1. The actor on a whole was talented
I thought it was unrealistic... a kid not helping a girl begging to let out of a basement?
@@poodleman3356 It is realistic in a way because children do get freaked out and go "um??" Plus he seemed to only trust Joe atm and seeing Beck in the basement where Joe didn't want anyone go in to probably confused him more.
Everyone forgets that Paco thought that when Beck said that Joe had done bad things that she was talking about killing Ron, a crime that was A) pretty justified and B) he was an accomplice in.
Take Beck off the list entirely knock everybody else down one and make Will number 1.
I LOVE DELILAH, forty was annoying at first, but he grew on me, hes not top tier but i like him. edit- i actually really hate Joe, i relate to him as the "nice guy" but hes extreme, and it pisses me off, hes amazing as a character and he is 1 as far as performance goes, but i only watch to see his downfall, i cant wait for it, i dont root for him at all, everywhere he goes destruction follows. and Ellie should know the truth, and seek revenge, shes smart enough to, just like her sister and Delilah DESERVES to have her sister get revenge for her.
i felt so fucking bad for forty he was lied to and underestimated all his life and he wanted to protect his sister but shes fucked up as well :(
Someone tell me I’m not the only one who sees forty as a jay gatsby reference
isnt that kind of given with the whole "ol' sport" thing? totally agree!
Curlspray that & how he got shot in the head unexpectedly at the end of the movie. Also I think releasing a movie or Candice resembles how “daisy” is so close but out of his reach.
I noticed it
Wow only 500 views ? Your voice and presentation are nicely done!
Thank you!
The real Will Bittelheim was the best, in my opinion
Beck is my least favorite character. I refuse to rewatch season 1 because of her.
Why?
Same
Ravenclawisthebest hart she was a shitty girlfriend to joe
Joe was constantly doing things for her and she barely acknowledged it. And plus, she was really dumb and she wanted to be liked, even if that ment lying to the people who are close to her. So yeah, I didn't really like her either.
@@ravenclawisthebesthart7313 I can't really remember specifics. I watched S1 once, cannot watch it again. I think I may have blocked it out. The thing that I remember distinctly is how annoyed I was when I found out she lied about her father. Like you can have a shit relationship with a shit dad without lying and saying he's dead.
Peach was a true antagonist for joe she was good
Ever since Dexter ended, I’m so glad we got a show that follows something so similar while being it’s own thing. I love how Dexter is even mentioned in it too.
Not gonna lie I was shook when I saw paco that low but you have a good point story wise there’s just too much for him to compete with to be higher on the list but I wish that there would’ve been something at least a little reference to paco in season 2 but even if we don’t hear about paco again he’ll still have a spot in my heart:(
I know it would've been great for a little Paco reference!
I didn’t enjoy watching Amber Chylders’ acting at all. I literally felt nothing at all watching her
Dang, this made me realize how much I needed Candace to be Joe’s foil and how they kept dangling it over my head just to come to subpar conclusions
I disagree with Ellie being number three. I found that she was trying to be an adult, but when it came to the end she didnt want grow up quick. They also told her to stay away from Henderson, but she didn't listen. This led to Joe accidentally killing him and eventually leading Delilah to being trapped because she discovered what Joe did. That's just what I think 🤷♀️
I also thought that the Milo character wasn't handsome. I don't know why tho.
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Ice Bear I disagree. She was only 15 and like any 15 year old thought “her life was so unfair, I can’t wait to grow up” when adults were trying to help her. She didn’t understand Henderson was a rapist, she was naive and simply thought he was her friend who was interested in helping her to become a film maker.
Now, I didn’t like her reaction to her sister telling her Henderson molested her but to be fair, she was just trying to process and speaking as someone who has been sexually abused in the past, anger, denial and bargaining are all reactions from people you tell. Much like grief.
Your second point. If Ellie hadn’t have left Henderson alone like she was told, Joe wouldn’t have “accidentally killed him” Joe is a series killer, that has already been established. He killed him by accident but if he hadn’t have gone down the stairs he would have gone another way entirely intentionally. In short, if he didn’t kill him that time he would have killed him the next time for another reason. Perhaps for Delilah
As for the end, we got a brief glimpse into her past when she was speaking with Love and it sounded like her and her sister already had to grow up fast, she didn’t mind being “grown up” when she had her sister beside her but she was left all alone and told to live in Florida by herself at “basically 16” So I ask you. Who would not get upset about doing that?
@@molepole1998 I can see your point, but I personally didn't like the character.
The first moment I see Milo, I feel he is an narcissist buff guy, the fact that he disrespect love's brother forty tells what kind of person he is.
At first I thought Paco was just a good kid, but after he left Beck pleading for help HE JUST WALKED AWAY, I was like nahhhhhh
The twist about Love wasn't suprising for me at all. But I also haven't liked her before. Forty on the other hand was my fav from Season 2. My ranking:
9 Candace
8 Love
7 Paco
6 Peach
5 Beck
Delilah /Ellie (can't decide)
2 Forty
1 Joe
When season 1 ended I was so excited for Candace and what she has in store. I was so ready for her to make Joe's life hell, but I don't know why but she really fell short. Firstly, because they didn't show her at all the first few episodes and gave us a very intense storyline to follow and then suddenly threw her in there and she just seemed like a distraction from the main story. And she didn't bring the wrath, the aggression the pain and revenge well on screen, and literally had no plan to actually make Joe's life hell. Plus I'm super mad at her because she's kinda the reason Forty's dead.
1. Love
2. Will
3. Joe
4. Forty lol
5. Delilah
6. Paco
7. Ellie
8. Peach
9. Beck
10. Candace
Love is the best character imo. Not the most likable, but the BEST. The truly great villains are the ones who make the story interesting and raise the stakes. Not only is she well-written but Victoria Pedretti brings her madness to life beautifully. I was captivated every time she was on screen.
She’s a big reason why season 2 is better than 1.
Christian Hoffmann it totally agree love is the best character
I wanted candace to get juctice. I was rooting for her
Fat IB samee
I don't understand why people hates Beck, I really liked her, I mean she was a girl with a lot of problems that just wanted to be socially accepted by people and wanted to be loved, but she thought that no one could really love her, and that's why she cheated on Joe because she was emotionally unstable and a mess, but she deserved better💔 I really hated Joe when he killed beck 😡
Enrique Bojorquez
People find it easy to hate realistically written female characters, and find it easy to excuse the behaviours of toxic male ones. A lot of is rooted in an unconscious gender bias, unfortunately.
same i wish her and peach got together
I hear you but Beck cheated on the one guy who loved her with all her mess.
Penn was great in season 1 but holy fuck did he bring it in season 2. His facial expressions especially when he’s sitting across from Candace and he’s terrified stays with me. Such an amazing actor
ELLIE AND DELILAH WERE THE BEST CHARACTERS AND THEIR ACTING WAS AMAZING
Am I the only one who liked peach?
You're part of a few!
No I liked her to
i LOVE joe, the real will, forty, delilah, and love in no particular order. but tbh, forty will always be my favorite.
My faves:
1) Will (the real Will - I'm just happy he's alive and happy with Gigi in Manila, one of the characters I had some hope for. He's precious, please protect him)
2) Ellie (I feel bad for her because of what happened to Delilah, also she's smart and real - I also have a soft spot for her because she was in Jane The Virgin, which is one of my fave shows ever)
3) Delilah (she's the most real, honest and the least BS character, yet she also has a soft heart)
4) Forty (he might be messed up, but he's actually a good guy, even if he's so hella broken. He just needed someone to look out for him, and I ain't talking about Love)
5) Candace (even after what happened to her, she's still determined to protect the Quinn siblings, even if she knows that Joe was with them and is dangerous)
6) Joe and Love (they're crazy but very interesting characters, but I normally don't put psychotic characters as one of my top faves)
Delilah is the best character season 2 no argument
boi u ain’t gonna put our gurl Karen on this list AAH
jk this list was awesome and 100% right
Glad you agree!
forty and joe could’ve been a power couple but y’all won’t talk about that
Bruhhh stfu
nah will is number 1
I would rank them like this
1. Peach
2. Joe
3. Delilah
4. Beck
5. Ellie
6. Love
7. Forty
8. Candace
9. Paco
May I ask why Peach is your number 1?
@@molepole1998 I thought she was interesting and I liked her vibe, she was a good antagonist and when she took Beck to that getaway was an amazing episode. I was upset when she died.
@@mmmmmm..mm.. peach had no appeal, another typical rich girl.
Delilah was an amazing character.
Love was soooooo much better than Beck. She was far more complex and *actually* changed Joe for the better by making him look into the mirror and acknowledge that he can’t love the person he deserves to have. Joe clearly doesn’t change after Beck, he still thinks he’s some sort of a hero who will fix people’s problems. It’ll be interesting to see how Season 3 turns out with Love now in the equation.
as SOON as Love said "i wolf you" i knew she was psycho
I think you got joe wrong. You make him out like he actually cared about “damaged people” like forty, he saw forty as an inconvenience and was prepared to kill him just to be with love. And no, not everyone was rooting for Joe
I mean damaged like Dellilah and Ellie. He felt obliged to look out for both of them. As he did Paco and his mother in the first season
BrainPilot in that sense I agree. He cares for kids but that doesn’t make him any less of an awful person. He ruined Ellie’s life by getting her sister killed, now she’s on the run all alone
BrainPilot The only reason Joe helped Delilah and Ellie was to prove to himself he was a good enough person for Love. He was always getting something out of helping people.
@Shinji
Yup, your point hasn't been discussed enough. Joe is always trying to justify his actions and rationalize his behavior because he truly believes he's a good person or can become a better person. It could be said that he truly care for kids like Paco and Ellie because they remind Joe of him when he was mistreated during his upbringing. So Joe wants to provide a better life for them so they don't end up becoming the next "Joe".
@@joyboy6752 He helped Paco and Claudia before he met Love.
I feel like this should be titled “Ranking the main cast/actors in YOU”
I like Beck a lot not for her character but the interactions between her and Joe. Joe trying to fix everything in Becks life and manage everything is what made season 1 great for me
Hell no was I never on the side of Joe
You didn’t give Peach enough credit
My Ranking:
1) Joe
2) Love
3) Forty
4) Delilah
5) Will
6) Paco
7) Ellie
8) Peach
9) Becky
10) Candace
I disagree about Beck and Peach. They were very strong characters .
Candace is wayy wayyy worse then peach wtf 🤦🏾♀️
I was so estatic to see Jenna Ortega in this how after growing up watching Stuck In The Middle! She's a great actor (imo) and I can't wait to see what other roles she gets!
Good list but Delilah over forty
Delliah and Ellie are my favorite characters
Shay Mitchell fits the role of Peach Salinger so much. Being the typical it girl herself, she brought the role of Peach to life. From being the shy character in PLL, she revolved to being this confident queen bee in You which makes her a good antagonist (in Joe's life) and also playing a big role in Beck's life. Shay Mitchell did so good.
DELILAH IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST OF THEM ALL
dharani soundarapandian 🧢
we all know real will is number one
man how is forty above Delilah 😭😭😭😭 but good vid❤️
the best character: the REAL will bettelheim
Penn Badgley’s voice itself created the vibe of the whole series.
Will 11/10
Beck 10/10
Joe 9/10
Love 8/10
The rest 5/10
My boyfriend literally looks like a slightly younger Joe. The jaw, the lips, the eyebrows, the hair, the expressions, EVERYTHING is almost spot on. This show made me skeptical of my boyfriends intentions lmao
You should show him this lmao
Nobody wants your pity foolish mortal. We watch the show together and he agrees. Even my grandma called me to ask me if I’ve seen it yet and that he looks like my boyfriend 😂
Thank you for being honest
i’ve never agreed more with a ranking before. agree agree AGREE
I think beck was my favorite cause she was sooo real and ordinary. Her depth wasnt endless cause most people aren't that deep and she was a bit of lost person and screw up cause she was in her 20s. Easily the most realistic character
It's close between season 4 and season 2
*_DELILAH AND FORTY DESERVED BETTER_*
The problem with Candace was that she seemed evil, dislikable, vindictive etc. which meant that it was hard to root for her. She was supposed to be the unlucky, innocent and only sane girl who was buried alive and not believed by anyone. Instead she just became the annoying character with no real depth or development. They could’ve done so much with her arc and history but nothing really came of it.
Beck being this low?? This is absolute bull!! Liz played this absolutely amazing
Pen Badgley is REALLY good. Tbh actors that are really famous with their past works/characters tends to overshadow their new characters (e.g. some actors in series like Vampire Diaries or FRIENDS). I seriously thought I would still find the “Dan Humphrey” he played in Gossip Girl in this series, but I couldn’t. His “Joe Goldberg” is phenomenal, he really acts creepy and mentally ill yet I still find myself empathizing towards his character. Pen Badgley is a really good actor and he deserves an award.
Mine are
Joe - Extremely Interesting, Mysterious, & Charismatic
Delilah - Ever since her appearance I loved her, everything about her
Will - He understood Joe more than anyone ever has/he didn’t tell anyone Joes secret
Forty - A bit dramatic but really likable and funny
Paco - His relationship with Joe is what stands out
Ellie - Intelligent, funny, and relatable
my list
1.Love
2.joe
3.delilah
4.Ellie
5.Forty
6.Will
7.Candace
8.Beck
9.Peach
10. Paco( i kinda hate this character but i dont know what to say instead of him so :/
The fact that a few characters can be acceptably put above Joe says a lot about how good this show is
Hmmm I agree with your list, I do think that Peach did a good job, I was scared for her, maybe because I like Shay. Delilah and Ellie were my favorite this season. I was shocked when we found out she was dead. Forty on the other hand yes great performance but at the end of the season I just wanted him to die, he was to much. And I do believe we were so focus in Joe thoughts that made us dislike Candace, she was clearly the hero.
I'm glad you agreed!
I think the actor who played Benji deserves a shout out. Dude played a entrepreneur douche bro to a T.
The ranking is season 2 over season 1
The best character is the dominatrix Airbnb owner
🤣
Missed opportunity for a tier list