Stress is causing every kind of sickness and the narc loves when you are stressed. The life surrounded with hate is poisonous. And narc is a hater. Narcs are bullies and bullies have issues .
They talk about every pain imaginable and broadcast their concerns, even talk about their bowel movements. They fill your ears with everything you don't want to hear.
My narcissistic mother is in the nineties and I’m in the sixties and she is in much better health than I am. I have come to the point of not minding death just to get away from her. She has destroyed my peace and any chance I had in this life of being happier. This people will take even the desire of living from you.
Same for my narc "mother." She is 77 and I am 57. She is trim and healthy and has extreme energy, almost hypomania. I am obese, due to eating my stress. Have lupus and fibromyalgia. I dont fear death because I will finally be free of her wicked hatred.
I'm terribly sorry for your traumatic life experiences. Truly. And, I understand. Though I wouldn't have taken my own life, there was a long period of time, well into my adult years, during which I would not have objected to being run down by an 18 wheeler. Life is better now that I no longer deal with my narcissist family, my former husband is dead, my second former husband is miraculously humbled and living independently, and my third and present husband is a good person. Keep the faith. Miracles can and do happen. I wish you every happiness life has to offer you.
@@forgiven5919 I have lived your nightmare (fibromyalgia, obesity, IBS, etc.), so, feel very badly for you. The best choice I ever made was cutting narcissists out of my life. I wish you every happiness.
I'm so sorry you had to endure the kind of dehumanizing and betrayl of someone who had one effing job...or at least not to take away your self love and push to hating yourself so much that you even want to un alive yourself..keep watching these utube videos, and ones that teach us what we were forbidden to find out- that it's OK to love ourselves. Maybe when you dissingage yourself from your mother physically and end the emotional trauma bond with her...pretend like she's already passed on, grieve the breadcrumbs moments she gave you, and keep trying to figure out your health problems. Keep fighting!!
@@01splitpea thank you for your kind words. I am happy that you have a nice husband and have cut out your narc family. I think that I have no choice but to also cut off my narc mother if I want to live. Her negative energy is killing me.
Because we are taking care of them and their needs, neglecting our own and the stress of the one sided relationship where they do not reciprocate takes its toll. Cortisol and epinephrine, lack of rest and sleep has a cumulative effect. We deal with our setback alone. Whereas they have a 24/7 helpmate that helps them with everything.
If narcissists live long enough, they are eventually their own undoing. I've watched them, and I'm telling you what happens to every last one of them is the law of nature. Good follows good, and bad follows bad. Hang tough, Bianca, live long and prosper.
@@01splitpea “Bad” may always follow bad but, “Good” doesn’t always follow good. If that were true, all of us here wouldn’t have been the target of narcissists. Other than that statement by you, I fully agree with you!! 🙏🏽
I truly understand your pain .. the avenger: love yourself more than you could ever love anyone else . Make a pact with yourself ; if anyone disrespects you for whatever reason ,it's a redflag & they are not for you .. practice self care .. Everything I've learned about myself ,I wished I had known then. We must value ourselves & close the door on toxic people. I had to go completely no contact . Block phone numbers ,social media ,email .any means of communication. i had to disengage w/ contacts of contacts . Relocated . Trauma Therapy may be beneficial .. I did have trauma therapy & yes I learned to see the light .I was putting forth all my energy on partners & not loving & respecting myself.. Sending you blessings , love & light & healing!!
@@melindanix7363 Thank you. I truly appreciate your advice and kindness 🙏🏽🌻. Also, I’m glad you’ve gotten the help needed to live a healthier, happier life. Since my dealings with a former Covert Narcissist neighbor (about 3 1/2 years ago), I’ve NEVER taken “peace of mind” for granted again!!
This is so interesting. I'd been with my spouse 10 years I contracted an autoimmune disorder. Then gut issues a few years later. Then at 64 I had to start oxygen, even though I had been a very light smoker.
I am not going to let anyone disturb my peace any longer. God sees all. Don’t worry God will fight the battle. You don’t do wrong and continue to get by. Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap
@@Bianca-sw5id that’s how they hide the truth. But you must go no contact. Cut them completely out of your life, give a third party all of their stuff to give back to them so they have no excuse to come to you to get it back. If they show up don’t answer the door, look at them, or acknowledge their existence, & don’t talk to anyone about them outside if a therapist’s office. Block & delete them from your phone & if they call you like crazy get a new number, have it be unlisted, & no one who is in contact with them can know it. Good luck. Be ready. If you’re of great importance to them they will hunt you down or have their family & friends do it.
@@Bianca-sw5id They can't be stopped. In corporates they have a manual to identify Narcs and remove them as soon as possible. The only way to stop them is make others aware about them and Narcissism in general - and then collective boycott. They are disastrous even to themselves - they go to delusional extents to harm others and even get themselves destroyed (not that they are self sacrificial or brave, on the contrary, they are cowards - but they have the brain of a 7 year old - have negative existential intelligence)
That’s because during our relationships with them, they are taking it all out on us and don’t internalize it. We do…we have to internalize all of our own problems and also their crap that they unload on us. Plus, at least in my case with my last relationship, I felt like I was expected to keep everything unrealistically stress free for them, and also in my case I had the household to where when he walked in it was music on, lights dimmed, house immaculate and smelling great, as well as myself looking nice. He still went online and cheated on me anyway, though. So, I’m not sure what these people want. Probably just what they can’t have.
It’s energy. When an empathic person is being abused by a narcissistic person they absorb that negative energy and it manifests in their body as disease (dis-ease). This is why it is so important for empathic people to learn how to discern that narcissistic energy and to protect themselves from it.
This is a spiritualistic, religious view. Not backed by science at all, and there are real, tangible, scientific reasons why this happens. Sad to see people thinking like this in the 21st century
I suffered as a child trying to figure out what was going on, why my mom would never show affection or approval and why my dad would side with her when she was clearly cruel and wrong. I am in my 30's, have chronic kidney failure, 2 kidney transplants, cancer 2x, bone marrow transplant, possibly skin cancer, 3 panic attacks, high risk pregnancy, preeclampsia..... all that and my mom was assumed to be the best caregiver. That part was hell. She showed me so much contempt (because I was gaining all the care and attention) and no compassion. She told me she wished I was never born and came back shortly later to let me know she did not regret saying that because she truly meant it. I was an A student, never behaved badly, went to church, served but whatever I did it was never enough for her and it's still not. Trying to make a plan to make more distance for my mental health.
My opinion: Because narcissists direct their problems outward. They don't have a problem with abusing others and treating everybody like crap if it means they'll feel better. It must be (al least a temporary) relief to just dump one's stresses onto others instead of taking an honest look at oneself.
My covert mom does deal with IBS, which started for her in her 60's. She stews all day with the "injustice" of her life, not having the things or attention she thinks she deserves. I think some do deal with health issues like this, but I agree, most let their worries glide over since they don't concern themselves with things normal people do.
Makes perfect sense, because as empath we penetrate all the negative abuse the narc does to us! While the narc takes out its emotions like a punching bag to feel better. Sad, but facts. My Epilepsy condition got worse every time, I know 100% is because of her!
Empaths take on the responsibility and burden of saving the relationship and it’s extremely stressful. The more we give the more they take and demand. It’s exhausting enough to wear down our immune systems. They are benefitting from the stress that they’ve caused. I believe this will catch up to them in old age when they’ve burnt through every relationship where the other people have tried to help them & they no longer have support for when they are old & sick. Anyway that’s what I’ve witnessed throughout my life.
My guess would be that, at least in the prime of their lives, narcissists get most everything they want, whether that's to harm others, destroy others, or just to bilk their victims out of money or other posessions the narcissist doesn't want them to have and enjoy. The people whose lives are wrecked feel the extreme stress which accompanies the abuse, while the narcissist, without guilt or shame, feels pleasure at seeing their victims suffer (schadenfreude). Stress for the victim, none for the narcissist. It's not until the latter part of the narcissist's life that the depression begins in earnest. People figure them out, everyone detests and avoids them, and new supply is harder to come by, because they're meaner and their looks are fading. No matter how I may have felt about the treatment I experienced at the hands of multiple narcissists throughout my life, ultimately, I'd rather be me than them. Great job, Danish Bashir!
@@sll110 I feel you! What I did many years ago was to go no contact. It was one of the smartest moves I ever made in my whole life, and I would certainly do it again! Today, those narcs are the ones burdened with health problems, such as fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, obesity, glaucoma, and substance abuse. As for the rest? Two of them are serving long prison sentences, a lot have NO friends, or else died shortly after I kicked them to the curb, 1 is going blind, and 1 (an ex-friend from the 90's) took her own life.
Abusers don't ever allow peace to be an option if they don't get their way. Scapegoats are trained to see one "solution": the abuser must be appeased. A Narc cannot have true joy, inner peace, or happiness. The closest emotion to that is pleasure; and they get great pleasure by causing pain and suffering.
I have seen my sociopathic sadistic father experience what I could describe as only sheer joy by abusing me. It's so weird because we think of joy as the highest spiritual state reached by the very few. But, when abusers transfer their negativity, all they are left with are these positive emotions. Hence, regular abuse = health for them.
I could write a book.lol. no concience, no empathy ,no remorse, no guilt , no soul . Never worrying about anyone but themselves. Stress free doesn't get dz hardly ever. Inflammation & extreme stress cause diseases . They eat first. They spend the money on themselves only due to entitlement. Kids do not come first .neither does spouse .it is only about appearances when it comes to immediate family.
My N. pretends to be sick with things similar to my real stuff, but, of course, more debilitating, at least whenever he is called upon to do anything for me.
@@jazminolivari5554 But don't narcissists sometimes suffer from intestinal problems, migraines, high blood pressure and the like? Some of them seem to.
@@lisarochwarg4707 Some might suffer from conditions, but I have a close family member who always manipulated me in being ill, until it was just an excuse to care for them. When your in a relationship with a Narcissist it will be their health over yours! That's why it's best to Leave for your health too!
Because they suck the life force/prana/Qi energy from the empath to fulfill their energetic needs, while the empath is left dealing with the effects of their own life force energy not being available to nourish their body.
Only when you care (which most human beings do) then things can bother you and you can hurt. If someone doesn't actually care, then things won't bother them. Also, if a narc doesn't consider it wrong or bad to harm others, then what stress could they have? Not everyone has the same level of 'right and wrong' or ethics or morals and responsibility for their actions.
I had intestinal pain that tests and ER visits couldn't come up with a cause. My narcissistic ex-boyfriend discarded me when l had intense physical pain and severe depression and..anxiety- from walking on his eggshells. 5 months later and the abdominal pain has completely gone away. He broke his ankle once and pouted because he couldn't get immediate sympathy from ex lovers
Because they cause so much stress through thier abuse to others. and they remain healthy because they derive pleasure and satisfaction by hurting others as well as the fact that thier victims often fawn over them and give thier energy to them. As well as care for thier needs for them
Nope they don’t have any emotions, they don’t get sick, they eat well, they sleep well, they dress well…. But the empaths looses everything including their souls and the ability to breathe
I sincerely believe they always seem fine because they externalize all their stress, and pushing it off onto everybody around them. Then of course they are so selfish, they also demand people cater to their needs and use other people as emotional sponges. They're like evil vampires, draining other people to keep themselves looking and feeling their best.
stress definitely affected my health during my relationship. i was rarely sick although i had autoimmune issues. but as things in the relationship got worse my i started having flare ups and other issues and still waiting for a diagnosis on new issues that have come up. it also becomes mentally and physically exhausting 😢
Fantastic question. I've had gut issues and ibs symptoms since a wee girl and recurring glandular problems. My mum had it far worse. Never understood it before I knew what I know now. My 85 yr old parent is still very much VIVUS (not heard otherwise from the doctor since going no contact) and he's taken oh so such good care of himself over the years. Empaths feel including other people's pain. Narcissists don't. Not on any compassionate level at least.
My narc husband would try to mirror my illness more so since I left. He ruined my health. Best thing I did was cut him off. He would mimic to try and garner sympathy from friends of mine he hasn't got any friends. He drove them away by constantly lying and smearing me Ll the time. So pathetic.
Maybe Narcs maintain themselves better because like they are robots emotions and empathy. They don’t have bad days because every day is bad for them and they are trying to make it good by these robotic rituals. There is a lesson for us. Be indifferent to them and take care of yourself with love, respect and a human disciple!
My ex smoked weed and cigarettes heavily every day and said he felt like shit everyday because I'm not a good gf 😂 ok.. The 1st yr I knew him he took my to his church and made me confess to his reveren that I was a bad gf. Very embarrassing, my dad always told me to stay away from those Church people..
It makes me think of Dr. Emoto’s water experiment….where it showed that if you projected love towards the glass of water, and then looked at it under a scope, it looked beautiful like a snowflake. But when you said hateful things at the glass of water, and then looked at it under the scope, it looked like a deformed, dark, mis-shapened blob. Could it be that when we ‘pray for our enemies’, they receive from us, positive energy like the ‘loved’ glass of water…..while those who are abused by these narcissistic monsters, are receiving hate, like the hated glass of water….hence, the diseased condition of the abused. What then are we to do to receive healing and love like the loved glass of water? It’s hard to love ourselves, especially when you have been raised since birth by the negative programming of these monsters. Maybe we need to create a group effort of sending love to one another? Because it would seem that the meaner the world gets, the sicker the people get too. I have also read studies that were done, trying to prove or disprove the efficacy of prayer. They had people pray for certain people to recover faster in a hospital….without the people being prayed for knowing about it. They noticed that the people who were prayed for, did recover faster….even though they didn’t even know that someone was praying for them. I’m sure that most people have someone who is envious of them or just outright hates them, and could be sending bad thoughts to you. Could this be what affects us badly at times? How do we shield ourselves from this? Now there would be those who say that if you are God’s, nothing can harm you….that’s not always the case. Look at Job. There was even a book written, called; Why Do Bad Things Happen To Good People? Crap will happen to whomever….but is it increased by evil thoughts? Thoughts are things, I have been told. The Bible tells us to ‘guard our thoughts’. I have also read that what you do to others will come back to you 10-fold. Does this go both ways, for doing good or doing bad? Why does it seem that the 10-fold good, never comes? Why does it seem like the 10-fold bad keeps coming and coming? Just some things to think about.
It’s not always rooted in childhood trauma. My husband had a good father but a narcissist mother. He was not her target either it was his father. He learned this behavior from her and still goes over to her house to get new ideas on how to hurt me. He didn’t have a bad childhood and his father mainly ignored the narcissism from his wife. Her mother is also a narcissist and she probably learned it from her. It’s not always based on trauma but just simply being taught it by interactions with the main caregiver in your life.
They have no effects of this trauma because they were not traumatized as some psychologists believe. People don't want to accept that these people are demon-possessed and this is the reason they can't change.
Throughout my youth, I was severely underweight. My mother was the narcissist. I weighed 98 lbs when I graduated from college. I am 5'8". I gained 20 lbs after I graduated from college within a month and was able to move out. Does anyone think anorexia that left when I got somewhat away from her?
They get sick too, grow old very poorly, I am aware a lot of people take a hit physically but I don't agree with the take that being empathetic means physical suffering, a balanced individual can maintain their health just fine.
My stomach was constantly messed up when we were together. I was always experiencing brain fog and fatigue. I was prone to infections, of course my immune system took a hit from bring stressed all the time. Today, I finally blocked him on all social media. We haven't been together for a year, I had forgotten about him being on my social media. All of a sudden he clicked "like" and my stomach hurt when I saw it. Nope. Good riddance.
The narc manipulates the other to take on all the responsibilities in the family while wearing the other down emotionally as well. The empath may have already been taught to ignore their normal physical needs as a child and the narc only reinforces those messages.
Bcs they cant feel regret or shame. They really dont care about anyone . We are very sensitive. We care about those soulless demons. If we like or not. Deep inside we feel bad for them.. and hope they get on the right path one day for themselfs.. We always will do bcs thats what emphaty is. And thats why we get ill and they not. We care.. they not We absorb their negative energy to..we are like a sponge to there negative energy when we dont be aware of it and protect our energy from them .
According to Chinese medicine and Taoism, illness is not necessarily a bad thing. It can be a warning to you. Then you can always adjust your life so that it doesn’t go too wrong. It can e a protection. That’s why when narcissists are sick, it’s already too late.
They don’t take responsibility for their actions but it also attracts behavior patterns cycles right back towards themselves. They may be healthy but deep down they are miserable. Would you rather a good quality of life? Or quantity of life? 🤔
Also once you as an empathic person knows the truth about narcissistic behavior it won’t bother you as much because you will not feel guilt for keeping them out of you life like you did before 😁👍
Because their trauma went to their emotional health whereas others' trauma goes to their bodies. It's not something you choose your emotions 'pass out ' due to overload and a phony personality takes its place . It's the body's way of surviving , just like you don't choose your physical health problems
I feel empaths operate from soul level and their soul keeps warning them when they are wrong but probably being unhealrd n codependents and because of lack of awareness they internalize all stress failing to find s solution which manifests as physical illness which for which doctors provide medicine failing to see the root cause . Narcissists on the other hand are not self aware and operate from false self/ ego and feel they are right in all their doings. so no cause of stress for them Even if they are fit physically we have to remember they have a diseased heart n soul and they are totally unfit in eyes of God. Physical body will perish one day and Almighty cherishes pure hearts and pure souls
I have many of these medical issues I dress and you wouldn't know it because I don't complain I just go to the Dr. And tell them everything they are Indonesian g8t Phycians very pt. A particular person hate it their Diabetes is Wearing him out KARMA DOES SHOW UP
MIL was disabled. Was for decades. She refused to acknowledge & accept it and yet milked her aches & pains to manipulate others out of cash, services & gift's.... all while claiming she was independent & wealthy. Not to mention insulting others for their hardships. Classic widowed, Catholic martyr...
That's because narcs are whiny little bitches who run to the hospital and Dr's at the slightest little symptom so they can cry, whine, and get as much attention as they can from the hospital staff. ⚕️ Then they got everybody feeling sorry for them because they have some new ailment. Us on the other hand aren't allowed to be sick or have an illness. The narc I've had to deal with destroyed my car so that I had to depend on him to get to the doctors and then he would start huge fights before I would go to the doctor or purposely come late to pick me up so that I missed my appointment and get fired or I'd have to cancel it. We get ill because we have to hold in all the anger and eat it because we're not allowed to express our emotions. Only the narc is allowed to do that. Seems the only emotion they truly have his rage and they're always taking that out on us.
Free will. It’s a choice to allow them to continue to abuse you, I had to cut mine off and go no contact for my health to improve. If you stay in any type of relationship with a narcissist you are choosing their health over yours.
@@vickyb6588 it's a TEST of free will! Narc survivors continually have their free will tested by evil, so we must be constantly mindful of what is happening to us to make the right choice. Congrats on ur success to good health and right choices!
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Stress is causing every kind of sickness and the narc loves when you are stressed. The life surrounded with hate is poisonous. And narc is a hater.
Narcs are bullies and bullies have issues .
This is very true!!! But for us just their presence create an extreme level of stress!
I sometimes feel like I am being punished for being a good person and the two Narcs in my life are rewarded for being monsters
They talk about every pain imaginable and broadcast their concerns, even talk about their bowel movements. They fill your ears with everything you don't want to hear.
Spot on,he’s the healthiest person I ever seen and my children and I are still suffering and in therapy 😢
My narcissistic mother is in the nineties and I’m in the sixties and she is in much better health than I am. I have come to the point of not minding death just to get away from her. She has destroyed my peace and any chance I had in this life of being happier. This people will take even the desire of living from you.
Same for my narc "mother." She is 77 and I am 57. She is trim and healthy and has extreme energy, almost hypomania. I am obese, due to eating my stress. Have lupus and fibromyalgia. I dont fear death because I will finally be free of her wicked hatred.
I'm terribly sorry for your traumatic life experiences. Truly. And, I understand. Though I wouldn't have taken my own life, there was a long period of time, well into my adult years, during which I would not have objected to being run down by an 18 wheeler. Life is better now that I no longer deal with my narcissist family, my former husband is dead, my second former husband is miraculously humbled and living independently, and my third and present husband is a good person. Keep the faith. Miracles can and do happen. I wish you every happiness life has to offer you.
@@forgiven5919 I have lived your nightmare (fibromyalgia, obesity, IBS, etc.), so, feel very badly for you. The best choice I ever made was cutting narcissists out of my life. I wish you every happiness.
I'm so sorry you had to endure the kind of dehumanizing and betrayl of someone who had one effing job...or at least not to take away your self love and push to hating yourself so much that you even want to un alive yourself..keep watching these utube videos, and ones that teach us what we were forbidden to find out- that it's OK to love ourselves. Maybe when you dissingage yourself from your mother physically and end the emotional trauma bond with her...pretend like she's already passed on, grieve the breadcrumbs moments she gave you, and keep trying to figure out your health problems. Keep fighting!!
@@01splitpea thank you for your kind words. I am happy that you have a nice husband and have cut out your narc family. I think that I have no choice but to also cut off my narc mother if I want to live. Her negative energy is killing me.
Because we are taking care of them and their needs, neglecting our own and the stress of the one sided relationship where they do not reciprocate takes its toll. Cortisol and epinephrine, lack of rest and sleep has a cumulative effect. We deal with our setback alone. Whereas they have a 24/7 helpmate that helps them with everything.
It's disgusting ; no justice served to the narcissist
If narcissists live long enough, they are eventually their own undoing. I've watched them, and I'm telling you what happens to every last one of them is the law of nature. Good follows good, and bad follows bad. Hang tough, Bianca, live long and prosper.
@@01splitpea can u tell me whats happened to them?
@@01splitpea “Bad” may always follow bad but, “Good” doesn’t always follow good. If that were true, all of us here wouldn’t have been the target of narcissists. Other than that statement by you, I fully agree with you!! 🙏🏽
I truly understand your pain .. the avenger: love yourself more than you could ever love anyone else . Make a pact with yourself ; if anyone disrespects you for whatever reason ,it's a redflag & they are not for you .. practice self care .. Everything I've learned about myself ,I wished I had known then. We must value ourselves & close the door on toxic people. I had to go completely no contact . Block phone numbers ,social media ,email .any means of communication. i had to disengage w/ contacts of contacts . Relocated .
Trauma Therapy may be beneficial .. I did have trauma therapy & yes I learned to see the light .I was putting forth all my energy on partners & not loving & respecting myself..
Sending you blessings , love & light & healing!!
@@melindanix7363 Thank you. I truly appreciate your advice and kindness 🙏🏽🌻. Also, I’m glad you’ve gotten the help needed to live a healthier, happier life. Since my dealings with a former Covert Narcissist neighbor (about 3 1/2 years ago), I’ve NEVER taken “peace of mind” for granted again!!
This is so interesting. I'd been with my spouse 10 years I contracted an autoimmune disorder. Then gut issues a few years later. Then at 64 I had to start oxygen, even though I had been a very light smoker.
I am not going to let anyone disturb my peace any longer. God sees all. Don’t worry God will fight the battle. You don’t do wrong and continue to get by. Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap
Narcs have no true emotions, so the trauma doesn’t harm them while our emotions run deep & true thus we’re impacted heavily by them.
But when will they stop-? How can they be stopped-? It's like a never ending cycle with them infecting their own kind
@@Bianca-sw5id when they are ignored. They hate that
@@triplejmom7826 they do-? It seems that he uses it to further hurt me by telling my friends how happy he is
@@Bianca-sw5id that’s how they hide the truth. But you must go no contact. Cut them completely out of your life, give a third party all of their stuff to give back to them so they have no excuse to come to you to get it back. If they show up don’t answer the door, look at them, or acknowledge their existence, & don’t talk to anyone about them outside if a therapist’s office. Block & delete them from your phone & if they call you like crazy get a new number, have it be unlisted, & no one who is in contact with them can know it. Good luck. Be ready. If you’re of great importance to them they will hunt you down or have their family & friends do it.
@@Bianca-sw5id They can't be stopped. In corporates they have a manual to identify Narcs and remove them as soon as possible. The only way to stop them is make others aware about them and Narcissism in general - and then collective boycott. They are disastrous even to themselves - they go to delusional extents to harm others and even get themselves destroyed (not that they are self sacrificial or brave, on the contrary, they are cowards - but they have the brain of a 7 year old - have negative existential intelligence)
That’s because during our relationships with them, they are taking it all out on us and don’t internalize it. We do…we have to internalize all of our own problems and also their crap that they unload on us. Plus, at least in my case with my last relationship, I felt like I was expected to keep everything unrealistically stress free for them, and also in my case I had the household to where when he walked in it was music on, lights dimmed, house immaculate and smelling great, as well as myself looking nice. He still went online and cheated on me anyway, though. So, I’m not sure what these people want. Probably just what they can’t have.
It’s energy. When an empathic person is being abused by a narcissistic person they absorb that negative energy and it manifests in their body as disease (dis-ease). This is why it is so important for empathic people to learn how to discern that narcissistic energy and to protect themselves from it.
This is a spiritualistic, religious view. Not backed by science at all, and there are real, tangible, scientific reasons why this happens. Sad to see people thinking like this in the 21st century
They are evil. Ever notice that good people suffer?
I suffered as a child trying to figure out what was going on, why my mom would never show affection or approval and why my dad would side with her when she was clearly cruel and wrong. I am in my 30's, have chronic kidney failure, 2 kidney transplants, cancer 2x, bone marrow transplant, possibly skin cancer, 3 panic attacks, high risk pregnancy, preeclampsia..... all that and my mom was assumed to be the best caregiver.
That part was hell. She showed me so much contempt (because I was gaining all the care and attention) and no compassion. She told me she wished I was never born and came back shortly later to let me know she did not regret saying that because she truly meant it.
I was an A student, never behaved badly, went to church, served but whatever I did it was never enough for her and it's still not.
Trying to make a plan to make more distance for my mental health.
My opinion: Because narcissists direct their problems outward. They don't have a problem with abusing others and treating everybody like crap if it means they'll feel better. It must be (al least a temporary) relief to just dump one's stresses onto others instead of taking an honest look at oneself.
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My covert mom does deal with IBS, which started for her in her 60's. She stews all day with the "injustice" of her life, not having the things or attention she thinks she deserves. I think some do deal with health issues like this, but I agree, most let their worries glide over since they don't concern themselves with things normal people do.
Makes perfect sense, because as empath we penetrate all the negative abuse the narc does to us! While the narc takes out its emotions like a punching bag to feel better. Sad, but facts. My Epilepsy condition got worse every time, I know 100% is because of her!
Empaths take on the responsibility and burden of saving the relationship and it’s extremely stressful. The more we give the more they take and demand. It’s exhausting enough to wear down our immune systems. They are benefitting from the stress that they’ve caused. I believe this will catch up to them in old age when they’ve burnt through every relationship where the other people have tried to help them & they no longer have support for when they are old & sick. Anyway that’s what I’ve witnessed throughout my life.
Such jerks are narcissist.
My guess would be that, at least in the prime of their lives, narcissists get most everything they want, whether that's to harm others, destroy others, or just to bilk their victims out of money or other posessions the narcissist doesn't want them to have and enjoy. The people whose lives are wrecked feel the extreme stress which accompanies the abuse, while the narcissist, without guilt or shame, feels pleasure at seeing their victims suffer (schadenfreude). Stress for the victim, none for the narcissist. It's not until the latter part of the narcissist's life that the depression begins in earnest. People figure them out, everyone detests and avoids them, and new supply is harder to come by, because they're meaner and their looks are fading.
No matter how I may have felt about the treatment I experienced at the hands of multiple narcissists throughout my life, ultimately, I'd rather be me than them.
Great job, Danish Bashir!
Well said ❤
I Don't want to be those Demons and Assholes, but I also Don't want to be myself, too angel heart and scapegoat..
@@sll110 I feel you! What I did many years ago was to go no contact. It was one of the smartest moves I ever made in my whole life, and I would certainly do it again! Today, those narcs are the ones burdened with health problems, such as fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, obesity, glaucoma, and substance abuse. As for the rest? Two of them are serving long prison sentences, a lot have NO friends, or else died shortly after I kicked them to the curb, 1 is going blind, and 1 (an ex-friend from the 90's) took her own life.
I landed up with a narc that is fat and not interested in being healthy. All I heard, all day long were health complaints.
I was waiting for the answer Danish this question keep my mind boggling for so long.
No stress or anxiety, grief, nightmares, regrets... dumping their trash on whoever is handy. No erosion.
they gave the Demonic, pressures, Garbage to others, of course they keep healthy....
Amazing.
I have these physical issues and she is physically a beast, always strong. I have wondered this question myself.
Abusers don't ever allow peace to be an option if they don't get their way. Scapegoats are trained to see one "solution": the abuser must be appeased.
A Narc cannot have true joy, inner peace, or happiness. The closest emotion to that is pleasure; and they get great pleasure by causing pain and suffering.
I have seen my sociopathic sadistic father experience what I could describe as only sheer joy by abusing me. It's so weird because we think of joy as the highest spiritual state reached by the very few. But, when abusers transfer their negativity, all they are left with are these positive emotions. Hence, regular abuse = health for them.
Aka sadist
I have severe acidity, I had a gallbladder removal surgery & recently had 2 Fibroids removed each weighing 1/2kg
Because their actions are for the self only. Our's are nurturing, absorbing... we carry all the pain so they don't.
I could write a book.lol. no concience, no empathy ,no remorse, no guilt , no soul . Never worrying about anyone but themselves. Stress free doesn't get dz hardly ever. Inflammation & extreme stress cause diseases . They eat first. They spend the money on themselves only due to entitlement. Kids do not come first .neither does spouse .it is only about appearances when it comes to immediate family.
My N. pretends to be sick with things similar to my real stuff, but, of course, more debilitating, at least whenever he is called upon to do anything for me.
I'm not sure that's always true. But it is true they make others sick.
He's right! I know from personal experience.
@@jazminolivari5554 But don't narcissists sometimes suffer from intestinal problems, migraines, high blood pressure and the like? Some of them seem to.
@@lisarochwarg4707 Some might suffer from conditions, but I have a close family member who always manipulated me in being ill, until it was just an excuse to care for them. When your in a relationship with a Narcissist it will be their health over yours! That's why it's best to Leave for your health too!
I have never ever come across a person who has as brilliant understanding of narcissism as you have! Amazing!
Divorced him in Dec. 2021; I was diagnosed with diverticulitis six months later..
It's truly disgusting
So true…my husband is 77 and he has no health issues whatsoever,no blood pressure or cholesterol issues,and never is sick..except sick in his brain
Wow, no one EVER brought that up!! SO TRUE!🙋😐
Because they suck the life force/prana/Qi energy from the empath to fulfill their energetic needs, while the empath is left dealing with the effects of their own life force energy not being available to nourish their body.
Only when you care (which most human beings do) then things can bother you and you can hurt. If someone doesn't actually care, then things won't bother them. Also, if a narc doesn't consider it wrong or bad to harm others, then what stress could they have? Not everyone has the same level of 'right and wrong' or ethics or morals and responsibility for their actions.
I had intestinal pain that tests and ER visits couldn't come up with a cause. My narcissistic ex-boyfriend discarded me when l had intense physical pain and severe depression and..anxiety- from walking on his eggshells. 5 months later and the abdominal pain has completely gone away. He broke his ankle once and pouted because he couldn't get immediate sympathy from ex lovers
We Empaths have to learn how not care like Narcissists and Take Care of Ourselves We care but we Care less set boundaries and Health Awareness.
Because they cause so much stress through thier abuse to others. and they remain healthy because they derive pleasure and satisfaction by hurting others as well as the fact that thier victims often fawn over them and give thier energy to them. As well as care for thier needs for them
Nope they don’t have any emotions, they don’t get sick, they eat well, they sleep well, they dress well…. But the empaths looses everything including their souls and the ability to breathe
I agree 1000%!
those are in fact Assholes, Demons, empty shells, worse than Garbage
I sincerely believe they always seem fine because they externalize all their stress, and pushing it off onto everybody around them. Then of course they are so selfish, they also demand people cater to their needs and use other people as emotional sponges. They're like evil vampires, draining other people to keep themselves looking and feeling their best.
100%
My mom developed tongue cancer, after a 60 year long marriage to my narcissistic dad. She never smoked! I developed an autoimmune disorder!
stress definitely affected my health during my relationship. i was rarely sick although i had autoimmune issues. but as things in the relationship got worse my i started having flare ups and other issues and still waiting for a diagnosis on new issues that have come up. it also becomes mentally and physically exhausting 😢
There is no Justice , why innocent surfer and guilty narcissists cant get What they deserve???
if we give those Demons opportunity
is truth 😳😳😳sometimes it feels like you got.to be full.of s.... like them to be ok💔💔🥺& act.like nothing happened
They feed off the souls of the innocent
Maybe cause they suck energy?
Fantastic question.
I've had gut issues and ibs symptoms since a wee girl and recurring glandular problems. My mum had it far worse. Never understood it before I knew what I know now.
My 85 yr old parent is still very much VIVUS (not heard otherwise from the doctor since going no contact) and he's taken oh so such good care of himself over the years.
Empaths feel including other people's pain. Narcissists don't.
Not on any compassionate level at least.
My narc husband would try to mirror my illness more so since I left. He ruined my health. Best thing I did was cut him off. He would mimic to try and garner sympathy from friends of mine he hasn't got any friends. He drove them away by constantly lying and smearing me Ll the time. So pathetic.
Maybe Narcs maintain themselves better because like they are robots emotions and empathy. They don’t have bad days because every day is bad for them and they are trying to make it good by these robotic rituals. There is a lesson for us. Be indifferent to them and take care of yourself with love, respect and a human disciple!
My ex smoked weed and cigarettes heavily every day and said he felt like shit everyday because I'm not a good gf 😂 ok.. The 1st yr I knew him he took my to his church and made me confess to his reveren that I was a bad gf. Very embarrassing, my dad always told me to stay away from those Church people..
Like they runned away with our heatlh😡
It makes me think of Dr. Emoto’s water experiment….where it showed that if you projected love towards the glass of water, and then looked at it under a scope, it looked beautiful like a snowflake. But when you said hateful things at the glass of water, and then looked at it under the scope, it looked like a deformed, dark, mis-shapened blob.
Could it be that when we ‘pray for our enemies’, they receive from us, positive energy like the ‘loved’ glass of water…..while those who are abused by these narcissistic monsters, are receiving hate, like the hated glass of water….hence, the diseased condition of the abused.
What then are we to do to receive healing and love like the loved glass of water? It’s hard to love ourselves, especially when you have been raised since birth by the negative programming of these monsters.
Maybe we need to create a group effort of sending love to one another? Because it would seem that the meaner the world gets, the sicker the people get too.
I have also read studies that were done, trying to prove or disprove the efficacy of prayer. They had people pray for certain people to recover faster in a hospital….without the people being prayed for knowing about it. They noticed that the people who were prayed for, did recover faster….even though they didn’t even know that someone was praying for them.
I’m sure that most people have someone who is envious of them or just outright hates them, and could be sending bad thoughts to you. Could this be what affects us badly at times? How do we shield ourselves from this? Now there would be those who say that if you are God’s, nothing can harm you….that’s not always the case. Look at Job. There was even a book written, called; Why Do Bad Things Happen To Good People? Crap will happen to whomever….but is it increased by evil thoughts? Thoughts are things, I have been told. The Bible tells us to ‘guard our thoughts’. I have also read that what you do to others will come back to you 10-fold. Does this go both ways, for doing good or doing bad? Why does it seem that the 10-fold good, never comes? Why does it seem like the 10-fold bad keeps coming and coming?
Just some things to think about.
The ones that are inflicting the abuse aren’t affected by it in the same ways
It's crazy cuz I'll be having all kinds of problems and when I see him ain't shitt wrong with him
It’s not always rooted in childhood trauma. My husband had a good father but a narcissist mother. He was not her target either it was his father. He learned this behavior from her and still goes over to her house to get new ideas on how to hurt me. He didn’t have a bad childhood and his father mainly ignored the narcissism from his wife. Her mother is also a narcissist and she probably learned it from her. It’s not always based on trauma but just simply being taught it by interactions with the main caregiver in your life.
They have no effects of this trauma because they were not traumatized as some psychologists believe. People don't want to accept that these people are demon-possessed and this is the reason they can't change.
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Throughout my youth, I was severely underweight. My mother was the narcissist. I weighed 98 lbs when I graduated from college. I am 5'8". I gained 20 lbs after I graduated from college within a month and was able to move out. Does anyone think anorexia that left when I got somewhat away from her?
You chose not to eat
They get sick too, grow old very poorly, I am aware a lot of people take a hit physically but I don't agree with the take that being empathetic means physical suffering, a balanced individual can maintain their health just fine.
My stomach was constantly messed up when we were together. I was always experiencing brain fog and fatigue. I was prone to infections, of course my immune system took a hit from bring stressed all the time. Today, I finally blocked him on all social media. We haven't been together for a year, I had forgotten about him being on my social media. All of a sudden he clicked "like" and my stomach hurt when I saw it. Nope. Good riddance.
The devil takes care of his own 😎
The narc manipulates the other to take on all the responsibilities in the family while wearing the other down emotionally as well. The empath may have already been taught to ignore their normal physical needs as a child and the narc only reinforces those messages.
Karma is truth
Because they don’t care about ANYTHING but themselves, right??
I'm having stomach issues right now due to being triggered.
Crohn's diagnosis here...
Bcs they cant feel regret or shame. They really dont care about anyone .
We are very sensitive. We care about those soulless demons. If we like or not. Deep inside we feel bad for them.. and hope they get on the right path one day for themselfs.. We always will do bcs thats what emphaty is. And thats why we get ill and they not. We care.. they not
We absorb their negative energy to..we are like a sponge to there negative energy when we dont be aware of it and protect our energy from them .
According to Chinese medicine and Taoism, illness is not necessarily a bad thing.
It can be a warning to you. Then you can always adjust your life so that it doesn’t go too wrong.
It can e a protection.
That’s why when narcissists are sick, it’s already too late.
They don’t take responsibility for their actions but it also attracts behavior patterns cycles right back towards themselves. They may be healthy but deep down they are miserable. Would you rather a good quality of life? Or quantity of life? 🤔
Also once you as an empathic person knows the truth about narcissistic behavior it won’t bother you as much because you will not feel guilt for keeping them out of you life like you did before 😁👍
@@Fairgreentube 100%
Because their trauma went to their emotional health whereas others' trauma goes to their bodies. It's not something you choose your emotions 'pass out ' due to overload and a phony personality takes its place . It's the body's way of surviving , just like you don't choose your physical health problems
So, what is the answer!?
I suffered two strokes
They have serious mental health issues to be able to do all the things they do. Most get through it. We have to
I feel empaths operate from soul level and their soul keeps warning them when they are wrong but probably being unhealrd n codependents and because of lack of awareness they internalize all stress failing to find s solution which manifests as physical illness which for which doctors provide medicine failing to see the root cause .
Narcissists on the other hand are not self aware and operate from false self/ ego and feel they are right in all their doings.
so no cause of stress for them
Even if they are fit physically we have to remember they have a diseased heart n soul and they are totally unfit in eyes of God.
Physical body will perish one day and Almighty cherishes pure hearts and pure souls
Unhealed
Cab it cause multiple sclerosis? Or smth with similar symptoms?
FAX.
I have many of these medical issues I dress and you wouldn't know it because I don't complain I just go to the Dr. And tell them everything they are Indonesian g8t Phycians very pt. A particular person hate it their Diabetes is Wearing him out KARMA DOES SHOW UP
I bet it's mold related. All of it. Or most.
MIL was disabled. Was for decades. She refused to acknowledge & accept it and yet milked her aches & pains to manipulate others out of cash, services & gift's.... all while claiming she was independent & wealthy. Not to mention insulting others for their hardships. Classic widowed, Catholic martyr...
That's because narcs are whiny little bitches who run to the hospital and Dr's at the slightest little symptom so they can cry, whine, and get as much attention as they can from the hospital staff. ⚕️ Then they got everybody feeling sorry for them because they have some new ailment. Us on the other hand aren't allowed to be sick or have an illness. The narc I've had to deal with destroyed my car so that I had to depend on him to get to the doctors and then he would start huge fights before I would go to the doctor or purposely come late to pick me up so that I missed my appointment and get fired or I'd have to cancel it. We get ill because we have to hold in all the anger and eat it because we're not allowed to express our emotions. Only the narc is allowed to do that. Seems the only emotion they truly have his rage and they're always taking that out on us.
funny how you look at which relatives died first.. not always, but many times.
This is the opposite of what Ive seen
Why does God allow this?
Free will.
It’s a choice to allow them to continue to abuse you, I had to cut mine off and go no contact for my health to improve.
If you stay in any type of relationship with a narcissist you are choosing their health over yours.
@@vickyb6588 you make a good point. 👌🇨🇦
@@vickyb6588 it's a TEST of free will! Narc survivors continually have their free will tested by evil, so we must be constantly mindful of what is happening to us to make the right choice. Congrats on ur success to good health and right choices!
@@vickyb6588 Cannot say it better myself! 👍
@@vickyb6588 👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
anxiety i dont even have anxiety extreme depression then it goes away and ur the hottest smiling beauty again #cutoff
Are yall gonna stop complaining ?