We waited in front of the computer for literally 8 HOURS STRAIGHT! Thats 7am to 3pm! If that doesn't deserve a LIKE👍, I don't know what does. Totally worth it though this episode was incredibly done. Would wait again 👍
I have no problem with the enemy side trying to protect their lives and keep moving forward my problem is when people try to make the Jaeger assist in the island seems like enemies for trying to commit Mass genocide when the other side was trying to commit and still is trying to commit Mass genocide to the island it's no longer about morals it's about us versus them and people can say yeah I'm going to change at the last moment that's because they're facing death will you don't know into the situations over
@@saleeksmith4765 just because your hands are dirty, and their hands are dirty, doesn't mean you should cut off the other guy's hands. You try to wash them. Everyone has blood on their hands but turning it into "us vs them" like you said is exactly what lead to this in the first place. Sometimes it must come to violence, but being enthusiastic or glad that innocent people are dying because you need to protect you & yours at the cost of billions of lives is mental illness. I don't think anyone in the fight is innocent, but the people living in the world ARE innocent, and all of them shouldn't die so you can selftishly protect the few people you care about. And before you say we don't know how we would react in the situation, I'd like to remind you that you don't know what we've been through or who we are. It could be that we know exactly how we would react, and that we would rather die, than selfishly sacrifice the world for the people in our neighborhood. Again, I'M NOT SAYING OUR SIDE ARE WHOLESOME GOOD PEOPLE (neither do they in fact), but at least they are against fascism and genocide and that's a W in my book
@@BOLDcast that's unrealistic because it's our hands are not just dirty you're trying to come at me with a knife therefore I'm trying to come at you with there's no more moral to this it comes down to survival instinct it's me vs. You that's the part you keep forgetting I'm not talkin about the ability to forgive and forget I'm talking about the ability to fight for your survival it's okay for the enemy's side to do the same let's just not try to vilify the other because they have the gun
The scene with Eren and Ramzi is so much sadder when you realize that Ramzi was sticking close to Eren in the part 2 finale. He was trying to cheer Eren up during that party because he didn't want him to be sad. He was a boy who wanted to help his family but also was willing to help people in need. Those children clinging to their very last coins, trampled under the feet of burning hatred in a world that denied them freedom. And if you remember, the boy speaks a different language. So he truly couldn't fathom or understand why Eren was crying. He died without ever knowing the reason why. And that is truly tragic. And Eren visualizes all of that tragedy as beauty and freedom. To the point that he regresses back into a child, before he knew any of the harsh reality. To avoid the pain and trauma of what he's doing, he sees it all as freedom. Now, moving onto Floch. A lot of the fandom is split on that guy as a person. But as a character, he was certainly wild. After surviving that initial charge against Zeke, he figured his purpose was to revive the devil in Erwin. The only way they could survive was because of a Devil. But he was denied that wish. Until he eventually found a Devil in Eren. He was the Sole survivor of that mission. To avoid anyone on the Island ever having to go through that again, Floch himself became a Devil. He was the Sole Survivor again out of his squad during the initial attack against the Cart Titan. But still he fought. Even when he had to defend the Port against his former comrades. Even when he had to fight against several Titan shifters and an Ackerman, he still fought. Even after getting shot in the shoulder, he anchored himself to the ship and let himself be dragged through the sea for a CHANCE at stopping the Alliance. Because in Floch's eyes, stopping Eren won't suddenly make the rest of the world stop hating Eldians. They'll still try to annihilate everyone on the Island. All of the sacrifices, everyone who died would all be for naught. In the end, Floch became the Devil he was looking for. Fitting that like with Erwin, Hange was the one to close his eyes and lay him to rest. Speaking of Hange, she's been suffering with self-doubt for a while. She felt she could never live up to Erwin's legacy. That she couldn't handle the pressure. That he made a mistake choosing her. She and the Government of Paradise didn't have any contingency plans in place if Marley didn't agree to have a peace treaty with the Eldians. She blames herself for Eren and Zeke turning to such extremes. Which is why she tells Yelena and Floch that they were both right. Zeke, Floch and Eren did what they did because she couldn't offer up any solutions. Sad that she couldn't ride Pieck like she wanted. But she understood that it was her turn. Her turn to show her comrades what they died for. Moblit saved her from the heat of a Colossal Titan last time. But there's no Moblit anymore. Her time came. Her wings of freedom shone brightly. And then burned to ash along with her. She and Floch both fought to the end. They both devoted their hearts for the cause they believed in. May they both rest. As the others set off towards Eren. Talking is off the table now. There's only one thing left to do. Fight.
Thanks for clearing this whole thing up, I read the entire thing, and I agree and understand what your point is, especially Eren’s part, you said he visualized the tragedy as beauty and freedom so that he can continue to do the rumbling, otherwise he couldn’t have done it.
@@frankkkk3111 Lie, Eren repeats many times that he has always wanted to erase everything, even if Paradis was safe, he did not feel free unless he obtained the world of Armin's books.
Eren regressed himself to his child self to cope with the trauma, I've never seen a character written this way. I can't wait to see how Alliance is going to pull this off
I think it was more so a representation of Eren's perception of him making the world as he imagined it as a child. Eren feels bad about what he's doing but that childish dream and his nature of streaking freedom before someone else steals his, overpowers literally everything else
Carson I think you’re spot on. No one should feel joy or happiness watching this. I’m glad that chapter 131 finally got its animation and they really did not hold back. To me it’s one of the most harrowing chapters of any manga out there. Those images of ramzi are haunting.
I'd say chapter 134 is the most harrowing. It's a shame that they skipped the first part of the chapter but they will most likely adapt it at the beginning of the next special
@@enjoys.trollingshittyreactors Well it's not exactly the viewers fault, is it? The show hypes it up in its opening and makes it look cool in the beginning, glad we finally get to see the harsh reality of this outcome. I'd say there wasn't enough carnage shown to make up for how much it has been glamorized but at least it's something.
I feel extreme joy in watching nihilistic shit like this, especially when it's incredibly well written. Like I'm tearing up for these fictional characters and the lives lost and all the trauma, but at the same time I'm also extremely entertained by it lol.
I mean, the song choices in some scenes, especially the fights, wasn't really giving sad vibes, so it creates a weird disconnect. But yeah, cheering on the rumbling is pretty strange, even tho I won't lie that when Floch showed up I cheered him up, that's a dude I would want on my side goddamn
the way you named like 10 side characters in that hange afterlife scene is incredible. It makes me happy when ppl pay attention to the show to the point of knowing characters that appeared once in a while
Probably the biggest thing we can get out of this episode is that Eren isn't an emotionally stunted psychopath who doesn't care about the destruction he leaves behind in his way. The truth is he does care which makes it even worse for him. We already know just how much guilt Reiner carried for all the horrible things he did but that's nothing compared to what Eren's doing right now. What's even more horrifying is the implication that Eren wanted to do the Rumbling not just for the sake of Eldia or his friends but for reasons that are far more selfish. He was disappointed that the world was filled with people who hated his kind. Life beyond the walls was nothing like the world he had dreamed of, the one he had envisioned through Armin's book. Through the rumbling, he was able to achieve his childhood dream of being free but not without a cost. Eren has become so broken inside that he can't even enjoy the freedom that he so desperately yearned for all this time. So much so that he had to regress into a childlike state, clouded by judgement and completely oblivious to the horrors below him, to truly appreciate it. He was never able to accept the world he grew up in and thus his innocent dream mutated into something far more twisted and horrifying and the result is what we witnessed in front of our screens.
"When I learned that humanity was alive outside the walls, I was disappointed." I really think that Eren wasn't too bothered about the fact that most of the people outside the walls were hostile towards Paradis. I think what Eren actually meant by the line above was that he was bothered by their EXISTENCE, because the idea of humans living outside the walls contradicted his childish fantasy of a empty world beyond the walls with no humans remaining, just so that he can freely explore it as he pleases. The Rumbling is Eren's way to kill all humans outside the walls to recreate his fantasy.
Eren never cared about the politics of Marley and Eldian that much , the only point matter to him is to fulfill his childhood dreams. Case in point: even in the middle of the massacre , he already exclaimed : “this is freedom” , freedom for who exactly. If this is for Eldian then it not true because they still can rebuild the empire halfway. It certainly not freedom for his friends, he already achieved what he wants in the middle of the rumbling. We both know the answer : It is only for Eren. For context , i recommend people read Aot bonus story: school caste where Isayama porteay every single character living in modern world where their original personality still remained. You shall see Eren for his truly is . He wanted to be a hero in an adventure story; and what if there are no adventure story , he would destroy the world to make a story about himself. Make no mistake , Isayama portray Eren as objectively not good person , his ideology cannot co exist in the world , but just so happen he really care about hia friends Oh , when Eren learned about the outside world is through Grisha picture, he already disapointed, that ‘s the most misunderstood sentence in the story because people assume as well as I was, Eren talked about Marley but he didnt even know about outside world. “Humanity never perished. I came from the outside world where humans live” “ When I first learned about humanity outside, I felt disappointed.”
3 years ago I read the chapter of Hange's last stand. When Levi said "dedicate your heart" in both the manga and in this ep now it hurt so god damn bad. He's the last of the senior members of the survey core.
The manga ending took me for a journey from confusion, to dislike, to love, to hate, to annoyance, to acceptance. Years removed now, I actually applaud Isayama for the ending. It was the ending that fits. It was the ending that made sense. Like Pixis told Erwin, as long as more than 1 person is alive, there will always be conflict. The story was always a tragedy. There are no heros or villains, only people with different goals and wants and fears. And the ending we got is the ending that is true to the world of the story. MAPPA did such an amazing job. The animation looks surreal! And the emotions is wrenched out of me is so earned. I always think I'm over SnK, until it reels me back again. See you all in the fall!
Same,and I believe that erens breakdown scene(139) was super necessary for the people who idolized him the entire way to see the true ugliness of what kind of person eren was
@@greendragon4870 I just don't understand. So what Hange did for the world wasn't heroic? Why take sides in a show which teaches about not taking any sides, I'm just so confused sometimes seeing comments like this.
@@greendragon4870 in my opinion - everyone here is right and at the same time is wrong. . It all stays to Kruger words to Grisha "We must push forward until result of our actions would pay all sacrifice we made. Exen in death, even after death..." . And Eren quote frome 4x03 "Door of Hope"
What a HELL of an episode. An hour of nothing but carnage and despair. This is the most anticipated and considered the best episode of AOT, according to the fans that is and ig we can vouch too. Aside from Hange's heart-shattering sacrifice and all, We now see Erens perversion for freedom at full display, which I think is somewhat overlooked. There's more to it than just expressing his immense guilt infront of the child(Ramzi), He poured out his bottled up emotions by admitting the fact that he did what he did because of an unfulfilled dream and disappointment. Eren is, as Kenny would say, drunk on something, an idealistic freedom of a world beyond the walls that simply doesn't exist, Eren dreamed of an empty world without people, with rivers of lava, vast seas and deserts, a world to explore and discover, and instead there were people who had taken away his freedom. He internalized that idea of freedom based through the contents of Armins book, now that it doesn't exist, He initiated the rumbling primarily for the sake of that selfish desire. To him, It's far more important than saving the island, hence recontexualizing his speech that eradicating the world is merely a pretext. in short, he's just like a child throwing a tantrum because he couldn't grab what he wants despite the guilt and all. Eren is the personification of contradiction and irony, be it his actions, emotions, and the leitmotif encompassing his character. He's a god yet a devil, a victim and a perpetrator, Selfless for sacrificing his life for his loved ones yet Selfish for trampling on others lives for his desires, desires freedom yet a slave to his unfulfilled ideal freedom and nature, hes human and a monster.
There's 2 really great parallels in this episode that are really impactful. The first one is from back when they first reached the ocean, Armin thought they had achieved the dream that he believed both him and Eren shared, but Eren was just melancholic, staring out into the distance and refusing to turn around even when Armin tried to show him the seashell. Now Eren is trampling all over the world and in his child state he excitedly turns around thinking that he's accomplished their dream of seeing the outside world just like him and Armin used to talk about when reading that book. But when he turns around this time all he finds is Armin staring back at him shocked and disappointed at what he's doing.. The second one is Eren's speech about seeing the outside world and being the freest person of all is almost an exact copy of the speech he made before plugging the wall in Trost. It really highlights how warped Eren's passionate ideology has become since then under the different circumstances. What was once something that felt triumphant and heroic as Eren preaches it during humanity's first victory against the titans, now feels morbid and scary as Eren calmy says it as he wipes out humanity himself.
I think in the first part, aside from all the horror that Eren is currently doing the author is also drawing a parallel between Ramzi and Eren. Ramzi is steeling money to help his family. He knows that what he is doing is wrong, but he still does it and is willing to suffer the consequences (one of his arms is already gone and he is willing to lose another). To him - ends justify the means, he wants to help people that he loves. Eren is also currently in a state of suffering and depression, he is bringing upon others the same catastrophe that he and his loved ones went through (albeit on a wider scale). But he is still is doing what he is doing to reach the end that he pursues. To “help” the people that he loves. Only instead of an arm he is sacrificing much, much more.
The execution was flawless! The use of OSTs, the animation, the visual direction and the whole pacing was so well done! Props to MAPPA, you can really see how much they put into this! Really good reaction and discussion in this video, and really liked all the details you guys picked up on and the things you talked about. When I saw that the video had discussion parts in the middle of the actual reaction I was sceptical that it might lead to bad experience but really it enhanced it further, and leaving the main review for later. Really liking this format, nice video as always! LMAO that 8 hours of waiting and clicking the reload button was worth it xD, can't wait for the next part this year!
This was beautifully done. MAPPA has truly killed it. So much love and effort was put into this series. The Hange scene, Even the Eren and Ramzi scene. Everything is just so beautifully done.
This was amazing, in the manga you could just finish the remaining chapters in just minutes. The voiceacting, the animation, the soundtrack makes it even better 🔥 I was blessed to be able to watch this
When you guys broke down that up high shot of "scout heaven" got me great job the favt that sasha and shadis are standing next to each. He probably scolding here for stealing a potato again😭
The creator of this manga, Mr. Isayama, also said that he likes watching anime reaction videos of people from overseas. I'm also a Japan person and I love the reactions of people from overseas!
Do you know that there's a lot of things was going on between Levi and Hange? 😭 Like when they was in that forest when Hange was taking care of Levi, she said "Levi don't we should just live together just the two of us" while he was unconscious, but he actually heard her and was like "you're not that type of person that throw everything thing behind her and just ran away" and she was blushed because he heard her saying "let's live together" And in this episode after she asked pick if she can ride her titan, Levi was like "so, your love for titans is bigger than our mutual love!" (it was in Japanese love word that it's mean "a mutual love or something" so it's hard to translate that right, but Japanese people know what's what) They were in love with each other and I hate how they didn't get a happy ending 😭
I know others are saying this too but This Episode was Peak Fiction , the emotions, the goosebumps, the character development, the animation, the OST everything was beyond God level 🔥 No-one in television history can break this 🤞🏻 Thank You Mappa , Iseyama , and the Music Crew for making this masterpiece ✊
a Cinema LEVEL omg! ❤ Everything animated and paced perfectly! And the ost ❤ And the facial Expressions! They really outdone themselves.. *MASTERPIECE!*
Also Ramzi didn't know Eren's language, so he didn't know what Eren was saying, that's why he asked "why are you crying?" That scene was just before when Eren was shown tearing up again back in S4 last episode when Mikasa was calling him on the cliff, Ramzi probably went down to his grandpa and told him that man on the cliff was sad n crying bitterly, that's why his Grandpa came to ask them for tea n party to cheer him up in the refugee camp 🥲 That's messed up bro
Exactly, people won’t be against something unless either it affects them or they’ve experienced it before. Empathy is not an emotion that’s easy for many. People sometimes use the argument that it’s just fiction but you can’t comment on fiction without showing what your real morals are 😂
The itterasshai that Mikasa says in Eren's dream, is a farewell that is used among people who live in the same house. When a person leaves the house he says ittekimasu (which means, I will leave but I will come back) and the person who stays at home answers itterasshai (which means, please go and come back). Although there are translations like, come back soon, I'll see you later, take care or I'll see you again, a more literal translation that truly expresses the meaning of Itterasshai is, "please go and come back".
The thing with Falco is that, Annie abilities of hardening came because she got experiments with the war hammer or armored titan, but Falco got the Beast titan things, so thats why hes a jaw titan but looks like an beast Titan an FALCON Titan as his name says, now he can fly.
I love when people talk about how small evens legs are even though they are twice tge size of a colossal titan. But since eren is so huge it makes sense🤣.
idk, on the one hand it was beautiful and emotional, but on the other I can't shake the feeling that if even one of the people who stood there watching Hange helped her a bit with some thunderspears she could have survived, its not like a couple less thunderspears would change the outcome of the Eren battle.
@@Henrique-wv9xq You're right, but they just couldn't risk it. They have a wildly slim chance of stopping Eren anyway, and they had no idea if the titans would fight back or not, or if they could even use/get close enough with thunder spears never mind blades.
I don't think people find happiness in it(maybe except hype as in thinking of it as a series and this is its finale) but the whole point is as you said that he had "no choice". The choice currently seems to be of who is genocide and a lot of people with self perseveration in mind sympathize with Eren. At this point if it wasn't us seeing the rumbling then the scenes would've just been replaced with a mass air bombing of Paradis, same scenes of kids women and men running only to find it an inevitable death
I still thinks it is crazy how many people overlook that a small part of eren WANTED the rumbling. He knew it was wrong but couldnt help himself. He did want to save his people but he also (out of selfish desire) wanted to see a world without humanity. He even says it and there are still people on social media thinking he never wanted any of this. He jsut couldnt accept that the world he dreamed of (an uninhabitated world) didnt exist. So in his way even if it sacrificed humanity he wanted to see it. from here on theres Manga spoiler so dont read further if you dont want to be spoiled: Yeah he did want his friends to sopt him, but he still wanted to see the view of an empty world at least once. So while wanting to die out of SELFLESS reasons, he started the rumbling out of a mix of selflessnes AND selfishness. So all in all great character (except for a few things in chapter 139 IMO), but not a good person. In the end he was a mosnter since his birth. He himself also claimed that no one and nothing made him that way. And for those saying he is an unreliable source of info. NO. the only thing he lied about was not caring for his friends. Everything else he meant that way.
am really impressed how you managed to name all the characters that died and showed up like in season 1, i assume mosty of aot watchers has forgotten most their names by now 👏👏👏
I’m a little late but just finished watching it and oh…my….godd when armin yells Eren jumping out of that plane I got goosebumps all over my body crazyyy good
The rumbling is an atrocity beyond all atrocities, and Eren is one of the most heinously evil villains in anime history. You were spot on with what you said about the scenes of the rumbling.
The scene with Eren and Ramzi is a very important scene it show us that Eren did it for his friends BUT he did it for himself, Eren is obsessed with freedom that he became a " slave of his own freedom " like Kenny said " we are all slave of something " so ( he did nothing wrong or he did - they started or he started - he is doing it for he’s friends - they deserves this ) this is only for the plot the real message is " addiction - obsession - selfishness - manipulation " is BAD freedom is like drugs for Eren he wants more and more and at the end he lose himself because of his addiction. For me Eren is the best character of all time but supporting him in his actions is wrong we need to understand the deeper meaning behind it and be smarter then this…
Please don't ignore the fact that there's an entire homeland of Eren's that needs to be kept safe from a hostile and technologically superior outside world. Even if the rumbling were to be necessary for safety later after more options had been tried, would an inheritor of Eren's titans have the same resolve as him to face the human cost of it all? Would they instead choose the path of death for their people like the King of the walls, or even Zeke?
FINALLY a good reaction to this episode.. you guys are actually taking the whole story into perspective and not just this one episode.. I've lost count of the reactions I've seen where the conversation with ramzi and Eren go over their heads
I am a Jagerist... BUT, and I think I speak for all of us fans like me, it's not that we're actually "happy" this is going down and excited for what Eren is doing. It's just that we, as fans, are happy to finally see these scenes that impacted us so profoundly and harshly jump off the page and onto the screen so we may experience it anew. But those are just my thoughts. Also... while I feel sorrow and grief for the innocents? The World has fucked around. And Eren is helping them find out.
Hange went out like a blaze of glory, i couldn’t pay enough for a more perfect send off. I wailed worse than the characters from the moment she named armin as commander until the next chapter, Bauklötze playing will break me down every single time.
Can't really dismiss Erwin or Armin being less curious than the other. Erwin's dream was literally to find the truth. One of the few people within the wall who didn't believe what the government and textbooks told him - and acted on this disbelief aggressively. Those 2 and Hanji are the most curious people on Paradis.
These last parts are going to be insane to animate so I can see why they need ample time to do it. Don't want to spoil anything but if you're a manga reader you already know the amount of crazy shit that happens. I was a bit pissed hearing that we have to wait months again, but when I think about what they need to draw and stuff, and how good they have become animating AOT, let them cook.
RIP Hange Fought for the sake of the whole world and died in the fire of glory, the 14th commander of Survey corps, betrayed her country but never betrayed the scouts. RIP Floch Fought for the sake of his country, lived a really sad and tragic life trapped in the forest of violence. I still remember how cheerful he was in Season 3 Part 1.
Here's what's going to blow your mind. What if child eren, the idealized one, is the one who wants to destroy the world. And the part of eren that cried and said sorry is the adult eren.
The toasted people scene reminds me on the molten fleshed, half dead people from Hiroshima picture drawings and what survivors explained how those poor souls looked like, wandering around with open arms like zombes.
“When i first learn humanity exist outside the walls , i felt very disapointed.” You guys remembered when Eren knows about the outside worlds, not through grisha memories , not by walking on a ship to Marley himselft bu through Grisha notes along with other character. You would think how people felt when such news approach: bewildered, surprised, happy ?? But for Eren : “ I just wanted to wipe everything away” , remeber hendidnt even know Marley stuff politics at this point and he already like that JUST because it is not fit with what he was told about the world. In his ideal world, no humanity should existed because it would destroy the perfect image. Even Eren acknowledge it made more sense with the kings plans
If you remember in previous episodes, Ymir waited for someone to stop her from following the royal bloodlines and it was Eren. Right now, Eren wants someone to stop him from doing the rumbling. Ymir keeps on serving the royal bloodlines because that's the only thing that she can do and must do. She keeps moving forward but she also wants someone to stop her. It's the same as Eren.
Agreed for the most part. The only thing that disappointed me was the lack of a wide shot of the Titans surrounding Eren when he says “These miserable walls have always been there.” I love the symbolism in the manga in that shot. Even now that he’s left the island, those miserable walls are still following him.
especially the hange death in manga felt like she died for nothing but in anime she killed whole bunch of colossal saved some time and went like a badass.
Ngl I still support the eren but that's just because I would do the same as him in protecting his friends and people but on the other hand I don't because of what he's doing
@@Andlytical honestly, when I think about what I would do in Erens shoes I don't think my family would want me to sign millions of peoples death warrants to protect them
Actually from the day Eren talk to Reiner on chair, I believe even Eren himself don't believe in the Yaegarist ideology, but instead just just it to manipulated people from Paradis to help him obtain the founding titan power. But what he really want to do with Founding Titan power is actually like what he told Historia, "no more kid need to eat their parent", that's what Eren truly want. But I don't he want to achieve this by wiping out humanity, otherwise he wouldn't give Armin them the chance to fight him and even intentionally forced them to kill him, because Eren wouldn't kill any of them as he promised he wouldn't took freedom or anything from them.
It's not that people are happy they are getting trampled and killed, its just a karma ish feeling people have seeing the world suffer the same way (even tho its worse). If they didn't do it to the world the world would have done it to them.
Great call with similarity to Code Geass. I don’t think that’s Eren’s sole intention, I feel like in his mind it’s a win-win. If he succeeds, Eldia is saved, if the Scouts succeed, they proved that Eldia aren’t devils and the rest of the world have made their vow to not repeat the same mistakes of racism and hatred by unifying to defeat such a horrible monster, Eren’s Attack/Founding Titan.
I completely agree, he was the only one to survive after hearing Erwin's speech. We needed a devil to fight, so we could learn the truth of the world. If we had to become the devil ourselves, crossed oceans to bring truth so be it. That's why he clung for life on the airship, he had to make sure his duty to protect Eren and his plan(per Erwin's order). He's a true soldier
Have you considered that perhaps you are the one who doesn't understand Floch? Maybe most reactors DO understand him, but it's you that doesn't understand.
Floch is the opposite of Armin two characters who both have survivors complex and deal with it very different ways Floch tries to embody Erwin someone he both hates for sending him and everyone to death but he can’t help but respect because without someone capable of sacrificing others they’re was no way they could have won Floch in a sense tries to become Erwin or at least serve Erin who is could see as the new Erwin
Keep in mind that in the first chapter of shingeki no kiojin Wit Studio changed Eren's dream, for this reason at the beginning of this special chapter Mappa corrected that mistake. Mappa made this correction because Eren and Mikasa's dream is fundamental to the end of the story. In the first chapter of the manga and at the beginning of this chapter it is understood that the dream that Eren mentions having had is about Mikasa and him, what was shown in the first chapter before Eren wakes up (titans, toys and corpses) is a change made by Wit Studio and has nothing to do with Eren and Mikasa's dream shown in the first chapter of the manga.
I think the enthusiasm about the rumblings is multipart. Main part being, a story with an apocalypse possibility that actually goes all the way with it is extremely rare. Usually x badcthing is about to get activated and worst case, a few characters die, or more commonly, bad guy is stopped and heroes watch the sunrise * fin* Other part is viewers empathize more with MC as we see his entire journey
They won’t need to do another rumbling, after the genocide; only Eldians remain which will be controlled via the founding Titan (memory power). Non Eldians can’t have memories altered. They’ll then slowly reclaim and populate the world over the next few centuries.
the question is what you do if you know that the world want to kill all the people that you love most ? you let them die just in order to do the right thing or what you thing is the right thing ?
the reason eren is doing the full rumble now is so someone else doesn't have to do it half in 50 years. With what they are doing, there will be peace for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. if they were just doing what zeke said and doing the rumble just removing the military posts, the war would start again when they build those ports and weapons again. But at that moment in 10 years maybe Eren won't be around to help his friends and neither will Armin. they may not even have access to the founder anymore. That's why it's now or never to make the rumble full to end everything at that moment. no one else after eren will have to be a murderer, a devil, or anything bad. Eren say, I won't let kids eat their parents anymore...
"When I learned that humanity was alive outside the walls, I was disappointed" That's such a psychotic and childish line from Eren, he never matured as a person, his idea of freedom was so skewed up that it lead to this genocide.. He's represented as a child in the paths cause that's what he really is even now.. He wanted the world to be empty with just nature outside of Paradise Island... Such a messed up view of the world 💀💀
How do people come up with this kind of thought ? I don’t see it that way . He came out of wall and knew world was filled with enemies. Not that “ AH SHIIT HUMAN IS STILL AROUND “ . He just wants to be free ( ik everyone knows this ) , but when the entire world wants to end you , how can he “NOT BE DISSATISFIED/ DISAPPOINTED “ at how the world is .
The Hanji scene was sooo much better in the anime than in the manga. In the manga not only did the reason for her death is kinda bullshit (Floch achieving the only reason of his existence : being a plot device), but 90% of her fighting was offscreen and it felt like the character was simply put in the trashcan (there is another meta/writing reason that's possible but spoiler territory so I won't say). Here in the anime it felt like a PROPER farewell to an excellent character. EDIT : NVM you noticed Moblit, well done!
@@_O5O5 Yeah honestly it's kinda bad... She gets that one pannel where she says "Titans are really wonderful", then you see a few shots of the hangar and the plane with a few colossals falling in the background, overall you can see a maximum of maybe 3-4 titans killed by her, and then she dies boiled/burnt alive. The whole ordeal takes place in like 7 or 8 pages, despite the entire scene being supposed to last like 40min-1h for fixing the plane... Overall it's like 30% understandable because I guess you have page limitations on manga support, but 70% disappointing and disrespectful to how insanely important and great of a character Hanji is.
Correction Eden clearly says he wanted to do this he wanted to wipe it all away,he was not forced to do anything all he was shown are memories of what his choices are and no matter if he saw the memories of the future or not he would have ended up in this point
At around 36:00 the song you were thinking of is Bauklötze or “Building blocks.” It’s the song that plays in Season 1 Episode either 19 or 20 when Eren chooses to trust Levi squad. The lyrics are actually relevant to this portion of show, and I think it was a great ost choice for Hange’s send off.
“He didn’t really have a choice” Eren, from the episode itself: “When I learned humanity lived outside the walls, I was disappointed. I wanted this. I wanted to wipe everything away.” No, he didn’t do this because he had to (he didn’t even have to, every condition that made the Rumbling ultimately necessary was directly, intentionally orchestrated by the Yeager brothers), he did this because he wanted to. This whole scenario could’ve been avoided. But this is exactly what he wanted. He never wanted peace with the outside. He wanted the empty world he saw in Armin’s book.
How many times has levi's have to go though this.😭 I can feel it As you watch anime over and over, you will feel so loved and attached to it that you will feel and hurt it. Levi's lost so many people both friends I don't even know if he could shed tears anymore. We will remember you hange we will remember you. RIP Hange 💐
The way I interpret Eren is that he has the ultimate hindsight. He's already done all this and now is forced to live out his actions while hating himself for committing them. Like if you do a run of a videogame for the first time and then are forced to replay it in the exact same manner, just this time with hindsight giving you different emotions. Or basically that as much as he doesn't want to do it, his emotions force him to. So that it's not completely fate, just that he's a slave to his yearning for freedom and his emotions. In fact, that scene of kid Eren relishing in the freedom seems to me like he's dissociating from his actions because he can't deal with the guilt of it all
8:25 if i had to nail it down I think its because its a 'us or them' situation or at least the fans belive it will be. the fandom beilves only way for edians to not get killed off is for eren to rumble
The ending of AOT will really go on to prove that the fantasy part of this story is really just Paradis Island. The rest of the world is pretty damn realistic, as we all show in our views of Eren's characters and our ability to find every possible way to convince ourselves that he is a monster. We have gone full circle from being on the side of Eldia, to being Marley ourselves. It's pretty damn obvious that Eren is a child who doesn't even know what he is doing and is going off on the argument that no one can tell him he ain't right, he simply has to be right. But somehow we have been able to compare him to fully logical people who were capable of great evil while knowing that it was evil, or even people that dehumanized their targets to make themselves feel like they were in the right and could do whatever they wanted. And Eren is just there, knowing damn well that the people he is killing bear no crimes. He has no animosity towards them, and so he has truly broken down the cycle of hatred. But the childish part in all of this is that, there is no way to be certain that the survivors won't go back into this cycle. There is no way to guarantee that something else won't restart the whole cycle even without the titan. Eren truly agree with Zeke and the marleyans. He believes himself and his people to be such a problem that in his mind, as long as the whole world can go beyond their hatred of eldians and forgive them, everything will be alright. The only difference is that he lived with the Eldians so he can't bring himself to erase them directly like Zeke wanted to.
I don’t know the true end of this story. But basically in my eyes and mind , humanity is the essence of problem. Yes everything will lead to another fight ( always ) . But after eren is stopped and gone , I think so will titans and only remaining populace will be just human , and people won’t be “ this is eldia or that “ . It’ll only be human vs another human . It’s clear 2000 years before titans and will be in the future. “It’s just human “. Example the war that was happening before eren went out of the wall .
1:16:44 This, thank you. Also, people seems to forget what Pixies cared the most of their "consitution": Is this gonna save more lives? Which of course in philosophy itself has tricky arguments, but genocide it's clearly out of that.
I need to put this disclaimer so that you will not be spoiled: don't read those who will comment me. Eren finally destroying fandom', view of him is peak for me. No noble reason (eve if in a twisted way it might be) no higher plan as fandom suspected...just pure vengeace towards a world he doesn't accept. saving his friend? ok he can do that saving paradise? he can do that but he wants deastruction, he wants the epty world he dreamed with his best friends (from where he first read amrin's book about the outside world), he want a world where he and Armin can travel in all the places he saw in THAT BOOK. His jelousy towards the humanity is what makes him a great Shonen character (what i mean by shonen character is that mangas for teenegers usually have the MC who is pure, noble reasons and with bad traits that usually are overcome throwout the show. Isayama basically does what Togashi did with gon, a kid that destroys the Battle manga MC troupe, that doesn't care about all the stuff, he cares about what HE WANTS TO CARE). People are dying cuz he is a kid that can't accept the fact that people are having what he does not have and he fought to have it (most of his friends died for that). THIS IS A COMEMNT I FOULD IN THE COMMENTS AND EXPLAINS BETTER THAT I CAN: "When I learned that humanity was alive outside the walls, I was disappointed." I really think that Eren wasn't too bothered about the fact that most of the people outside the walls were hostile towards Paradis. I think what Eren actually meant by the line above was that he was bothered by their EXISTENCE, because the idea of humans living outside the walls contradicted his childish fantasy of a empty world beyond the walls with no humans remaining, just so that he can freely explore it as he pleases. The Rumbling is Eren's way to kill all humans outside the walls to recreate his fantasy. ALL THIS told to a kid that basically doesn't understand a single word he says. In that moment Isayama basically destroys what a Shonen character has been (even tho it's not the only mangaka that did it. togashi did the same during hunter exam. when gon cried cuz he lost his pride when hisoka defeated him): eren vent all his TRUE motivation about why he does all the bad stuff and doesn't want to be understood, eren known he will do bad stuff and he can't be justified BUT STILL, he wants to do it, in the manner he always did "im gonna wipe away every single one of them". A character who basically didn't developt much since season 1. he grew up, he mature a bit, but remained the same kid he was. the Freedom scene is so good for that reason
All those 13 years old incel in the comments. Pls, just stop watching AoT if you did not like the end of AoT. Jesus... The manga finished two years ago and people still stalking AoT like a toxic, psycho guy is stalking his ex gf.
46:40 actually when you bring someone to the paths, it’s like an instant passes (time moves differently - this is NOT A SPOILER it was shown in S4 PT2)
We waited in front of the computer for literally 8 HOURS STRAIGHT! Thats 7am to 3pm! If that doesn't deserve a LIKE👍, I don't know what does.
Totally worth it though this episode was incredibly done. Would wait again 👍
I have no problem with the enemy side trying to protect their lives and keep moving forward my problem is when people try to make the Jaeger assist in the island seems like enemies for trying to commit Mass genocide when the other side was trying to commit and still is trying to commit Mass genocide to the island it's no longer about morals it's about us versus them and people can say yeah I'm going to change at the last moment that's because they're facing death will you don't know into the situations over
New AOT waiting stream?
@@saleeksmith4765 just because your hands are dirty, and their hands are dirty, doesn't mean you should cut off the other guy's hands. You try to wash them.
Everyone has blood on their hands but turning it into "us vs them" like you said is exactly what lead to this in the first place. Sometimes it must come to violence, but being enthusiastic or glad that innocent people are dying because you need to protect you & yours at the cost of billions of lives is mental illness.
I don't think anyone in the fight is innocent, but the people living in the world ARE innocent, and all of them shouldn't die so you can selftishly protect the few people you care about.
And before you say we don't know how we would react in the situation, I'd like to remind you that you don't know what we've been through or who we are. It could be that we know exactly how we would react, and that we would rather die, than selfishly sacrifice the world for the people in our neighborhood.
Again, I'M NOT SAYING OUR SIDE ARE WHOLESOME GOOD PEOPLE (neither do they in fact), but at least they are against fascism and genocide and that's a W in my book
@@BOLDcast that's unrealistic because it's our hands are not just dirty you're trying to come at me with a knife therefore I'm trying to come at you with there's no more moral to this it comes down to survival instinct it's me vs. You that's the part you keep forgetting I'm not talkin about the ability to forgive and forget I'm talking about the ability to fight for your survival it's okay for the enemy's side to do the same let's just not try to vilify the other because they have the gun
The scene with Eren and Ramzi is so much sadder when you realize that Ramzi was sticking close to Eren in the part 2 finale. He was trying to cheer Eren up during that party because he didn't want him to be sad. He was a boy who wanted to help his family but also was willing to help people in need. Those children clinging to their very last coins, trampled under the feet of burning hatred in a world that denied them freedom. And if you remember, the boy speaks a different language. So he truly couldn't fathom or understand why Eren was crying. He died without ever knowing the reason why. And that is truly tragic. And Eren visualizes all of that tragedy as beauty and freedom. To the point that he regresses back into a child, before he knew any of the harsh reality. To avoid the pain and trauma of what he's doing, he sees it all as freedom.
Now, moving onto Floch. A lot of the fandom is split on that guy as a person. But as a character, he was certainly wild. After surviving that initial charge against Zeke, he figured his purpose was to revive the devil in Erwin. The only way they could survive was because of a Devil. But he was denied that wish. Until he eventually found a Devil in Eren. He was the Sole survivor of that mission. To avoid anyone on the Island ever having to go through that again, Floch himself became a Devil. He was the Sole Survivor again out of his squad during the initial attack against the Cart Titan. But still he fought. Even when he had to defend the Port against his former comrades. Even when he had to fight against several Titan shifters and an Ackerman, he still fought. Even after getting shot in the shoulder, he anchored himself to the ship and let himself be dragged through the sea for a CHANCE at stopping the Alliance. Because in Floch's eyes, stopping Eren won't suddenly make the rest of the world stop hating Eldians. They'll still try to annihilate everyone on the Island. All of the sacrifices, everyone who died would all be for naught. In the end, Floch became the Devil he was looking for. Fitting that like with Erwin, Hange was the one to close his eyes and lay him to rest.
Speaking of Hange, she's been suffering with self-doubt for a while. She felt she could never live up to Erwin's legacy. That she couldn't handle the pressure. That he made a mistake choosing her. She and the Government of Paradise didn't have any contingency plans in place if Marley didn't agree to have a peace treaty with the Eldians. She blames herself for Eren and Zeke turning to such extremes. Which is why she tells Yelena and Floch that they were both right. Zeke, Floch and Eren did what they did because she couldn't offer up any solutions. Sad that she couldn't ride Pieck like she wanted. But she understood that it was her turn. Her turn to show her comrades what they died for. Moblit saved her from the heat of a Colossal Titan last time. But there's no Moblit anymore. Her time came. Her wings of freedom shone brightly. And then burned to ash along with her. She and Floch both fought to the end. They both devoted their hearts for the cause they believed in. May they both rest. As the others set off towards Eren. Talking is off the table now. There's only one thing left to do. Fight.
Floch’s character arc was lovely!
This is beautiful
The line in My War is so painful knowing where it comes from.
Thanks for clearing this whole thing up, I read the entire thing, and I agree and understand what your point is, especially Eren’s part, you said he visualized the tragedy as beauty and freedom so that he can continue to do the rumbling, otherwise he couldn’t have done it.
@@frankkkk3111 Lie, Eren repeats many times that he has always wanted to erase everything, even if Paradis was safe, he did not feel free unless he obtained the world of Armin's books.
Eren regressed himself to his child self to cope with the trauma, I've never seen a character written this way. I can't wait to see how Alliance is going to pull this off
Talk to jutsu with zeke
I think it was more so a representation of Eren's perception of him making the world as he imagined it as a child. Eren feels bad about what he's doing but that childish dream and his nature of streaking freedom before someone else steals his, overpowers literally everything else
@@tajaemartin2251 when i've read the ending, i was so dissppointed
@@KeangoDLukeThis is 99% the correct interpretation.
Carson I think you’re spot on. No one should feel joy or happiness watching this. I’m glad that chapter 131 finally got its animation and they really did not hold back. To me it’s one of the most harrowing chapters of any manga out there. Those images of ramzi are haunting.
Yeah man, it seems that AoT fans are so imature sometimes
I'd say chapter 134 is the most harrowing. It's a shame that they skipped the first part of the chapter but they will most likely adapt it at the beginning of the next special
@@enjoys.trollingshittyreactors Well it's not exactly the viewers fault, is it? The show hypes it up in its opening and makes it look cool in the beginning, glad we finally get to see the harsh reality of this outcome. I'd say there wasn't enough carnage shown to make up for how much it has been glamorized but at least it's something.
I feel extreme joy in watching nihilistic shit like this, especially when it's incredibly well written. Like I'm tearing up for these fictional characters and the lives lost and all the trauma, but at the same time I'm also extremely entertained by it lol.
I mean, the song choices in some scenes, especially the fights, wasn't really giving sad vibes, so it creates a weird disconnect. But yeah, cheering on the rumbling is pretty strange, even tho I won't lie that when Floch showed up I cheered him up, that's a dude I would want on my side goddamn
the way you named like 10 side characters in that hange afterlife scene is incredible. It makes me happy when ppl pay attention to the show to the point of knowing characters that appeared once in a while
And I just noticed (if I'm not mistaken) that Isayama didn't put any Jaegerist in this scene
@@wawan3961 oh jesus does that mean they went to hell ....lmfao
@@ozwellespencer955 well he also didnt put any casual people, only people part of the original military
Probably the biggest thing we can get out of this episode is that Eren isn't an emotionally stunted psychopath who doesn't care about the destruction he leaves behind in his way. The truth is he does care which makes it even worse for him. We already know just how much guilt Reiner carried for all the horrible things he did but that's nothing compared to what Eren's doing right now.
What's even more horrifying is the implication that Eren wanted to do the Rumbling not just for the sake of Eldia or his friends but for reasons that are far more selfish. He was disappointed that the world was filled with people who hated his kind. Life beyond the walls was nothing like the world he had dreamed of, the one he had envisioned through Armin's book. Through the rumbling, he was able to achieve his childhood dream of being free but not without a cost. Eren has become so broken inside that he can't even enjoy the freedom that he so desperately yearned for all this time. So much so that he had to regress into a childlike state, clouded by judgement and completely oblivious to the horrors below him, to truly appreciate it. He was never able to accept the world he grew up in and thus his innocent dream mutated into something far more twisted and horrifying and the result is what we witnessed in front of our screens.
"When I learned that humanity was alive outside the walls, I was disappointed."
I really think that Eren wasn't too bothered about the fact that most of the people outside the walls were hostile towards Paradis. I think what Eren actually meant by the line above was that he was bothered by their EXISTENCE, because the idea of humans living outside the walls contradicted his childish fantasy of a empty world beyond the walls with no humans remaining, just so that he can freely explore it as he pleases. The Rumbling is Eren's way to kill all humans outside the walls to recreate his fantasy.
Eren never cared about the politics of Marley and Eldian that much , the only point matter to him is to fulfill his childhood dreams. Case in point: even in the middle of the massacre , he already exclaimed : “this is freedom” , freedom for who exactly. If this is for Eldian then it not true because they still can rebuild the empire halfway. It certainly not freedom for his friends, he already achieved what he wants in the middle of the rumbling. We both know the answer : It is only for Eren.
For context , i recommend people read Aot bonus story: school caste where Isayama porteay every single character living in modern world where their original personality still remained. You shall see Eren for his truly is . He wanted to be a hero in an adventure story; and what if there are no adventure story , he would destroy the world to make a story about himself.
Make no mistake , Isayama portray Eren as objectively not good person , his ideology cannot co exist in the world , but just so happen he really care about hia friends
Oh , when Eren learned about the outside world is through Grisha picture, he already disapointed, that ‘s the most misunderstood sentence in the story because people assume as well as I was, Eren talked about Marley but he didnt even know about outside world.
“Humanity never perished. I came from the outside world where humans live”
“ When I first learned about humanity outside, I felt disappointed.”
@@lachlanle7940 Yeah, that’s what I got from it, and its sickening. It’s like he was disappointed that other people existed beyond the walls
@@lachlanle7940 I agree. The mere fact that the world outside wasn't as he imagined it is what disappointed him
Bad Manga ending wants to know your location
fck that hange scen was perfect in all sense , trully one of the best episodes ever
was so goddamn good
3 years ago I read the chapter of Hange's last stand. When Levi said "dedicate your heart" in both the manga and in this ep now it hurt so god damn bad. He's the last of the senior members of the survey core.
way too badass this series is incredible
I keep crying when I see Hanges death. They were my favorite character and the one I related to most. Seeing their last moments ablaze is horrifying.
The manga ending took me for a journey from confusion, to dislike, to love, to hate, to annoyance, to acceptance. Years removed now, I actually applaud Isayama for the ending. It was the ending that fits. It was the ending that made sense. Like Pixis told Erwin, as long as more than 1 person is alive, there will always be conflict. The story was always a tragedy. There are no heros or villains, only people with different goals and wants and fears. And the ending we got is the ending that is true to the world of the story. MAPPA did such an amazing job. The animation looks surreal! And the emotions is wrenched out of me is so earned. I always think I'm over SnK, until it reels me back again. See you all in the fall!
Same i was angry betrayed sad and then accepted it all in the end
and actually started liking it
Same,and I believe that erens breakdown scene(139) was super necessary for the people who idolized him the entire way to see the true ugliness of what kind of person eren was
Hange and Floch fought well until the end,respect to Hange's bravery and Floch loyalty
I can agree with that
@@BOLDcast About romantic relationship - you forget Gabby and Falco
Yeah but bro was on copium tbh.
@@greendragon4870 I just don't understand. So what Hange did for the world wasn't heroic? Why take sides in a show which teaches about not taking any sides, I'm just so confused sometimes seeing comments like this.
@@greendragon4870 in my opinion - everyone here is right and at the same time is wrong.
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It all stays to Kruger words to Grisha "We must push forward until result of our actions would pay all sacrifice we made. Exen in death, even after death..."
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And Eren quote frome 4x03 "Door of Hope"
What a HELL of an episode. An hour of nothing but carnage and despair. This is the most anticipated and considered the best episode of AOT, according to the fans that is and ig we can vouch too. Aside from Hange's heart-shattering sacrifice and all, We now see Erens perversion for freedom at full display, which I think is somewhat overlooked. There's more to it than just expressing his immense guilt infront of the child(Ramzi), He poured out his bottled up emotions by admitting the fact that he did what he did because of an unfulfilled dream and disappointment.
Eren is, as Kenny would say, drunk on something, an idealistic freedom of a world beyond the walls that simply doesn't exist, Eren dreamed of an empty world without people, with rivers of lava, vast seas and deserts, a world to explore and discover, and instead there were people who had taken away his freedom. He internalized that idea of freedom based through the contents of Armins book, now that it doesn't exist, He initiated the rumbling primarily for the sake of that selfish desire. To him, It's far more important than saving the island, hence recontexualizing his speech that eradicating the world is merely a pretext. in short, he's just like a child throwing a tantrum because he couldn't grab what he wants despite the guilt and all. Eren is the personification of contradiction and irony, be it his actions, emotions, and the leitmotif encompassing his character. He's a god yet a devil, a victim and a perpetrator, Selfless for sacrificing his life for his loved ones yet Selfish for trampling on others lives for his desires, desires freedom yet a slave to his unfulfilled ideal freedom and nature, hes human and a monster.
There's 2 really great parallels in this episode that are really impactful.
The first one is from back when they first reached the ocean, Armin thought they had achieved the dream that he believed both him and Eren shared, but Eren was just melancholic, staring out into the distance and refusing to turn around even when Armin tried to show him the seashell. Now Eren is trampling all over the world and in his child state he excitedly turns around thinking that he's accomplished their dream of seeing the outside world just like him and Armin used to talk about when reading that book. But when he turns around this time all he finds is Armin staring back at him shocked and disappointed at what he's doing..
The second one is Eren's speech about seeing the outside world and being the freest person of all is almost an exact copy of the speech he made before plugging the wall in Trost. It really highlights how warped Eren's passionate ideology has become since then under the different circumstances. What was once something that felt triumphant and heroic as Eren preaches it during humanity's first victory against the titans, now feels morbid and scary as Eren calmy says it as he wipes out humanity himself.
You were the only reactor I've seen who's given any love to my main man, Moblit, the real G
I think in the first part, aside from all the horror that Eren is currently doing the author is also drawing a parallel between Ramzi and Eren. Ramzi is steeling money to help his family. He knows that what he is doing is wrong, but he still does it and is willing to suffer the consequences (one of his arms is already gone and he is willing to lose another). To him - ends justify the means, he wants to help people that he loves.
Eren is also currently in a state of suffering and depression, he is bringing upon others the same catastrophe that he and his loved ones went through (albeit on a wider scale). But he is still is doing what he is doing to reach the end that he pursues. To “help” the people that he loves. Only instead of an arm he is sacrificing much, much more.
The execution was flawless! The use of OSTs, the animation, the visual direction and the whole pacing was so well done! Props to MAPPA, you can really see how much they put into this!
Really good reaction and discussion in this video, and really liked all the details you guys picked up on and the things you talked about. When I saw that the video had discussion parts in the middle of the actual reaction I was sceptical that it might lead to bad experience but really it enhanced it further, and leaving the main review for later. Really liking this format, nice video as always!
LMAO that 8 hours of waiting and clicking the reload button was worth it xD, can't wait for the next part this year!
I don't care who you are or if you dislike the ending, this series will always be a masterpiece and this episode was as perfect as perfect can be.
This was beautifully done. MAPPA has truly killed it. So much love and effort was put into this series. The Hange scene, Even the Eren and Ramzi scene. Everything is just so beautifully done.
This was amazing, in the manga you could just finish the remaining chapters in just minutes.
The voiceacting, the animation, the soundtrack makes it even better 🔥 I was blessed to be able to watch this
When you guys broke down that up high shot of "scout heaven" got me great job the favt that sasha and shadis are standing next to each. He probably scolding here for stealing a potato again😭
The creator of this manga, Mr. Isayama, also said that he likes watching anime reaction videos of people from overseas.
I'm also a Japan person and I love the reactions of people from overseas!
Do you know that there's a lot of things was going on between Levi and Hange? 😭 Like when they was in that forest when Hange was taking care of Levi, she said "Levi don't we should just live together just the two of us" while he was unconscious, but he actually heard her and was like "you're not that type of person that throw everything thing behind her and just ran away" and she was blushed because he heard her saying "let's live together"
And in this episode after she asked pick if she can ride her titan, Levi was like "so, your love for titans is bigger than our mutual love!" (it was in Japanese love word that it's mean "a mutual love or something" so it's hard to translate that right, but Japanese people know what's what)
They were in love with each other and I hate how they didn't get a happy ending 😭
The OST from scene with Hange was Bauklötze, one of my favorites season 1 OST. It was in the scene when Petra was saying "trust us"
The fact a reactor finally recognized Charette makes me so happy.
Youve earned a Sub!
I know others are saying this too but This Episode was Peak Fiction , the emotions, the goosebumps, the character development, the animation, the OST everything was beyond God level 🔥
No-one in television history can break this 🤞🏻
Thank You Mappa , Iseyama , and the Music Crew for making this masterpiece ✊
The title "Attack on Titan The Final Season 4 Part 3 Part 1" cracks me up 😂
i know right wtf man lmao
If they thought about the titles before animating this wouldn't have happened bruh
I guess translation wise, it would be more accurate if translate into AoT The Final Season Final Part First Half.
Floch is the GOAT he was literally clinging to the boat even though he was shot. He literally fought until he can't for his people to live.
RIP King Floch 🫡
seems pathetic lmao
a Cinema LEVEL omg! ❤
Everything animated and paced perfectly! And the ost ❤
And the facial Expressions! They really outdone themselves..
*MASTERPIECE!*
The wall titans are the perfect weapons for Eren as they just Keep Moving Forward!! 😂😂
Levi: "Farewell Hange, Watch us". Hange's question was answered. Fallen comrades do watch over them
Also Ramzi didn't know Eren's language, so he didn't know what Eren was saying, that's why he asked "why are you crying?" That scene was just before when Eren was shown tearing up again back in S4 last episode when Mikasa was calling him on the cliff, Ramzi probably went down to his grandpa and told him that man on the cliff was sad n crying bitterly, that's why his Grandpa came to ask them for tea n party to cheer him up in the refugee camp 🥲 That's messed up bro
Floch is a beautiful warrior at it peak. He is loyal. He fight till the end.
Exactly, people won’t be against something unless either it affects them or they’ve experienced it before. Empathy is not an emotion that’s easy for many.
People sometimes use the argument that it’s just fiction but you can’t comment on fiction without showing what your real morals are 😂
The itterasshai that Mikasa says in Eren's dream, is a farewell that is used among people who live in the same house. When a person leaves the house he says ittekimasu (which means, I will leave but I will come back) and the person who stays at home answers itterasshai (which means, please go and come back).
Although there are translations like, come back soon, I'll see you later, take care or I'll see you again, a more literal translation that truly expresses the meaning of Itterasshai is, "please go and come back".
The thing with Falco is that, Annie abilities of hardening came because she got experiments with the war hammer or armored titan, but Falco got the Beast titan things, so thats why hes a jaw titan but looks like an beast Titan an FALCON Titan as his name says, now he can fly.
7:33 imagine all the harvesting Einar and Thorfinn could do in those fertile lands, barren yes, but still fertile I would suppose.
I love when people talk about how small evens legs are even though they are twice tge size of a colossal titan. But since eren is so huge it makes sense🤣.
Hange final stand was probably the best scene in the entire show. Can't wait for the final part this fall
idk, on the one hand it was beautiful and emotional, but on the other I can't shake the feeling that if even one of the people who stood there watching Hange helped her a bit with some thunderspears she could have survived, its not like a couple less thunderspears would change the outcome of the Eren battle.
@@Henrique-wv9xq You're right, but they just couldn't risk it. They have a wildly slim chance of stopping Eren anyway, and they had no idea if the titans would fight back or not, or if they could even use/get close enough with thunder spears never mind blades.
I don't think people find happiness in it(maybe except hype as in thinking of it as a series and this is its finale) but the whole point is as you said that he had "no choice". The choice currently seems to be of who is genocide and a lot of people with self perseveration in mind sympathize with Eren.
At this point if it wasn't us seeing the rumbling then the scenes would've just been replaced with a mass air bombing of Paradis, same scenes of kids women and men running only to find it an inevitable death
I still thinks it is crazy how many people overlook that a small part of eren WANTED the rumbling. He knew it was wrong but couldnt help himself. He did want to save his people but he also (out of selfish desire) wanted to see a world without humanity. He even says it and there are still people on social media thinking he never wanted any of this. He jsut couldnt accept that the world he dreamed of (an uninhabitated world) didnt exist. So in his way even if it sacrificed humanity he wanted to see it. from here on theres Manga spoiler so dont read further if you dont want to be spoiled:
Yeah he did want his friends to sopt him, but he still wanted to see the view of an empty world at least once. So while wanting to die out of SELFLESS reasons, he started the rumbling out of a mix of selflessnes AND selfishness. So all in all great character (except for a few things in chapter 139 IMO), but not a good person. In the end he was a mosnter since his birth. He himself also claimed that no one and nothing made him that way. And for those saying he is an unreliable source of info. NO. the only thing he lied about was not caring for his friends. Everything else he meant that way.
am really impressed how you managed to name all the characters that died and showed up like in season 1, i assume mosty of aot watchers has forgotten most their names by now 👏👏👏
ive been a huge fan of this show since like 2014 yo I know my stuff
"Discussion for part 1 of part 1 of part 3 of season 4" HAHAHAHAHAHA
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I’m a little late but just finished watching it and oh…my….godd when armin yells Eren jumping out of that plane I got goosebumps all over my body crazyyy good
The rumbling is an atrocity beyond all atrocities, and Eren is one of the most heinously evil villains in anime history. You were spot on with what you said about the scenes of the rumbling.
As a manga reader, I didn't expect hange scene to be this perfect...I fkiny cried man..I didn't even cry when I was reading that part
Impressed how Carson was able to name the characters that showed up on Hange's passing!
The scene with Eren and Ramzi is a very important scene it show us that Eren did it for his friends BUT he did it for himself, Eren is obsessed with freedom that he became a " slave of his own freedom " like Kenny said " we are all slave of something " so ( he did nothing wrong or he did - they started or he started - he is doing it for he’s friends - they deserves this ) this is only for the plot the real message is " addiction - obsession - selfishness - manipulation " is BAD freedom is like drugs for Eren he wants more and more and at the end he lose himself because of his addiction. For me Eren is the best character of all time but supporting him in his actions is wrong we need to understand the deeper meaning behind it and be smarter then this…
Please don't ignore the fact that there's an entire homeland of Eren's that needs to be kept safe from a hostile and technologically superior outside world.
Even if the rumbling were to be necessary for safety later after more options had been tried, would an inheritor of Eren's titans have the same resolve as him to face the human cost of it all?
Would they instead choose the path of death for their people like the King of the walls, or even Zeke?
FINALLY a good reaction to this episode.. you guys are actually taking the whole story into perspective and not just this one episode.. I've lost count of the reactions I've seen where the conversation with ramzi and Eren go over their heads
the girl that kenny killed was called nifa btw, the amount of nostalgia that hit me seeing all these veterans from the early days of the show was wild
I am a Jagerist... BUT, and I think I speak for all of us fans like me, it's not that we're actually "happy" this is going down and excited for what Eren is doing. It's just that we, as fans, are happy to finally see these scenes that impacted us so profoundly and harshly jump off the page and onto the screen so we may experience it anew.
But those are just my thoughts. Also... while I feel sorrow and grief for the innocents? The World has fucked around. And Eren is helping them find out.
Hange went out like a blaze of glory, i couldn’t pay enough for a more perfect send off. I wailed worse than the characters from the moment she named armin as commander until the next chapter, Bauklötze playing will break me down every single time.
Respect for remembered almost everybody in the squad since SS1
Can't really dismiss Erwin or Armin being less curious than the other. Erwin's dream was literally to find the truth. One of the few people within the wall who didn't believe what the government and textbooks told him - and acted on this disbelief aggressively. Those 2 and Hanji are the most curious people on Paradis.
These last parts are going to be insane to animate so I can see why they need ample time to do it. Don't want to spoil anything but if you're a manga reader you already know the amount of crazy shit that happens. I was a bit pissed hearing that we have to wait months again, but when I think about what they need to draw and stuff, and how good they have become animating AOT, let them cook.
RIP Hange
Fought for the sake of the whole world and died in the fire of glory, the 14th commander of Survey corps, betrayed her country but never betrayed the scouts.
RIP Floch
Fought for the sake of his country, lived a really sad and tragic life trapped in the forest of violence. I still remember how cheerful he was in Season 3 Part 1.
Here's what's going to blow your mind. What if child eren, the idealized one, is the one who wants to destroy the world. And the part of eren that cried and said sorry is the adult eren.
Who doesn't give a shit about a leaked character??? Who gives a shit about a traitor's death??? Ya-ya-ya-yach here
The toasted people scene reminds me on the molten fleshed, half dead people from Hiroshima picture drawings and what survivors explained how those poor souls looked like, wandering around with open arms like zombes.
“When i first learn humanity exist outside the walls , i felt very disapointed.”
You guys remembered when Eren knows about the outside worlds, not through grisha memories , not by walking on a ship to Marley himselft bu through Grisha notes along with other character. You would think how people felt when such news approach: bewildered, surprised, happy ?? But for Eren : “ I just wanted to wipe everything away” , remeber hendidnt even know Marley stuff politics at this point and he already like that JUST because it is not fit with what he was told about the world. In his ideal world, no humanity should existed because it would destroy the perfect image. Even Eren acknowledge it made more sense with the kings plans
If you remember in previous episodes, Ymir waited for someone to stop her from following the royal bloodlines and it was Eren. Right now, Eren wants someone to stop him from doing the rumbling.
Ymir keeps on serving the royal bloodlines because that's the only thing that she can do and must do. She keeps moving forward but she also wants someone to stop her. It's the same as Eren.
am I the only one who couldnt stop thinking about the brave sacrifice of king floch while change was deing
I don’t know how they did it but this whole thing was so much better than the manga
Agreed for the most part. The only thing that disappointed me was the lack of a wide shot of the Titans surrounding Eren when he says “These miserable walls have always been there.” I love the symbolism in the manga in that shot. Even now that he’s left the island, those miserable walls are still following him.
@@zbox913 it’s alright we can’t have everything all the time 🙏🏼
I mostly agree but the freedom scene looks pretty bad compared to the manga. Everything else looks great.
especially the hange death in manga felt like she died for nothing but in anime she killed whole bunch of colossal saved some time and went like a badass.
Rip Floch and Hange😭😭
17:33 mikasa is so cute whenever she reacts 😂😂 cant’t help but to giggle too
the resemblance between the clouds in eren's dream of freedom and the smoke of the rumbling is such crazy symbolism
Ngl I used to be a huge yeagerist but after seeing Ramzi I couldn't do it anymore. I wanna know who else though the same
Ngl I still support the eren but that's just because I would do the same as him in protecting his friends and people but on the other hand I don't because of what he's doing
@@Andlytical honestly, when I think about what I would do in Erens shoes I don't think my family would want me to sign millions of peoples death warrants to protect them
Actually from the day Eren talk to Reiner on chair, I believe even Eren himself don't believe in the Yaegarist ideology, but instead just just it to manipulated people from Paradis to help him obtain the founding titan power.
But what he really want to do with Founding Titan power is actually like what he told Historia, "no more kid need to eat their parent", that's what Eren truly want. But I don't he want to achieve this by wiping out humanity, otherwise he wouldn't give Armin them the chance to fight him and even intentionally forced them to kill him, because Eren wouldn't kill any of them as he promised he wouldn't took freedom or anything from them.
@@geraldthegoose1685 honestly I would because I love my family so I would do everything to protect them but that's just me tho
Goated fucking series
It's not that people are happy they are getting trampled and killed, its just a karma ish feeling people have seeing the world suffer the same way (even tho its worse). If they didn't do it to the world the world would have done it to them.
I don't know why but i really like the character of floch in this season
Great call with similarity to Code Geass. I don’t think that’s Eren’s sole intention, I feel like in his mind it’s a win-win. If he succeeds, Eldia is saved, if the Scouts succeed, they proved that Eldia aren’t devils and the rest of the world have made their vow to not repeat the same mistakes of racism and hatred by unifying to defeat such a horrible monster, Eren’s Attack/Founding Titan.
I feel like no reactors on this planet actually understand Floch's character
Ya man even though i hate him i have utmost respect for him bro fought till the end goal a realist cause
I completely agree, he was the only one to survive after hearing Erwin's speech. We needed a devil to fight, so we could learn the truth of the world. If we had to become the devil ourselves, crossed oceans to bring truth so be it. That's why he clung for life on the airship, he had to make sure his duty to protect Eren and his plan(per Erwin's order). He's a true soldier
Have you considered that perhaps you are the one who doesn't understand Floch? Maybe most reactors DO understand him, but it's you that doesn't understand.
In the end, Floch turned out to be more loyal than Armin 💀
Floch is the opposite of Armin two characters who both have survivors complex and deal with it very different ways
Floch tries to embody Erwin someone he both hates for sending him and everyone to death but he can’t help but respect because without someone capable of sacrificing others they’re was no way they could have won
Floch in a sense tries to become Erwin or at least serve Erin who is could see as the new Erwin
Keep in mind that in the first chapter of shingeki no kiojin Wit Studio changed Eren's dream, for this reason at the beginning of this special chapter Mappa corrected that mistake.
Mappa made this correction because Eren and Mikasa's dream is fundamental to the end of the story. In the first chapter of the manga and at the beginning of this chapter it is understood that the dream that Eren mentions having had is about Mikasa and him, what was shown in the first chapter before Eren wakes up (titans, toys and corpses) is a change made by Wit Studio and has nothing to do with Eren and Mikasa's dream shown in the first chapter of the manga.
I think the enthusiasm about the rumblings is multipart. Main part being, a story with an apocalypse possibility that actually goes all the way with it is extremely rare. Usually x badcthing is about to get activated and worst case, a few characters die, or more commonly, bad guy is stopped and heroes watch the sunrise * fin*
Other part is viewers empathize more with MC as we see his entire journey
7:35 theoretically speaking, if you stood on the piece of concrete next to the door and wore a fire proof outfit, you would’ve survived the rumbling
How low would the chances be of you guessing the exact spot, though?
the reaction to reiner’s tranformation 🤣 she was shookt 💀
Eren: i see future can't change... because he was trying to don't save the kid but he save anyway
They won’t need to do another rumbling, after the genocide; only Eldians remain which will be controlled via the founding Titan (memory power). Non Eldians can’t have memories altered. They’ll then slowly reclaim and populate the world over the next few centuries.
the question is what you do if you know that the world want to kill all the people that you love most ? you let them die just in order to do the right thing or what you thing is the right thing ?
the reason eren is doing the full rumble now is so someone else doesn't have to do it half in 50 years. With what they are doing, there will be peace for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. if they were just doing what zeke said and doing the rumble just removing the military posts, the war would start again when they build those ports and weapons again. But at that moment in 10 years maybe Eren won't be around to help his friends and neither will Armin. they may not even have access to the founder anymore. That's why it's now or never to make the rumble full to end everything at that moment. no one else after eren will have to be a murderer, a devil, or anything bad. Eren say, I won't let kids eat their parents anymore...
"When I learned that humanity was alive outside the walls, I was disappointed" That's such a psychotic and childish line from Eren, he never matured as a person, his idea of freedom was so skewed up that it lead to this genocide.. He's represented as a child in the paths cause that's what he really is even now.. He wanted the world to be empty with just nature outside of Paradise Island... Such a messed up view of the world 💀💀
How do people come up with this kind of thought ?
I don’t see it that way .
He came out of wall and knew world was filled with enemies.
Not that “ AH SHIIT HUMAN IS STILL AROUND “ . He just wants to be free ( ik everyone knows this ) , but when the entire world wants to end you , how can he “NOT BE DISSATISFIED/ DISAPPOINTED “ at how the world is .
The Hanji scene was sooo much better in the anime than in the manga.
In the manga not only did the reason for her death is kinda bullshit (Floch achieving the only reason of his existence : being a plot device), but 90% of her fighting was offscreen and it felt like the character was simply put in the trashcan (there is another meta/writing reason that's possible but spoiler territory so I won't say).
Here in the anime it felt like a PROPER farewell to an excellent character.
EDIT : NVM you noticed Moblit, well done!
haven't read the manga, did they really do that to hange's character? wow, how could they...
@@_O5O5 Yeah honestly it's kinda bad... She gets that one pannel where she says "Titans are really wonderful", then you see a few shots of the hangar and the plane with a few colossals falling in the background, overall you can see a maximum of maybe 3-4 titans killed by her, and then she dies boiled/burnt alive.
The whole ordeal takes place in like 7 or 8 pages, despite the entire scene being supposed to last like 40min-1h for fixing the plane...
Overall it's like 30% understandable because I guess you have page limitations on manga support, but 70% disappointing and disrespectful to how insanely important and great of a character Hanji is.
bro really called only floch a plot device as if everyone isn't in manga
Correction Eden clearly says he wanted to do this he wanted to wipe it all away,he was not forced to do anything all he was shown are memories of what his choices are and no matter if he saw the memories of the future or not he would have ended up in this point
Eren really said this is coconut island and I am perfectly okay with it
36:25 that's actually Bauklötze
It's been used once when Levi's squad told Eren to trust them
At around 36:00 the song you were thinking of is Bauklötze or “Building blocks.” It’s the song that plays in Season 1 Episode either 19 or 20 when Eren chooses to trust Levi squad. The lyrics are actually relevant to this portion of show, and I think it was a great ost choice for Hange’s send off.
“He didn’t really have a choice”
Eren, from the episode itself:
“When I learned humanity lived outside the walls, I was disappointed. I wanted this. I wanted to wipe everything away.”
No, he didn’t do this because he had to (he didn’t even have to, every condition that made the Rumbling ultimately necessary was directly, intentionally orchestrated by the Yeager brothers), he did this because he wanted to. This whole scenario could’ve been avoided. But this is exactly what he wanted. He never wanted peace with the outside. He wanted the empty world he saw in Armin’s book.
Lies when it comes to war survival and racism
bro did not watch the show 😂he did it because he had to
you don't need to be on eren side, even eren isn't but that's the only way to save armin, mikasa, jean, connie and paradis... that's all.
How many times has levi's have to go though this.😭 I can feel it As you watch anime over and over, you will feel so loved and attached to it that you will feel and hurt it. Levi's lost so many people both friends I don't even know if he could shed tears anymore. We will remember you hange we will remember you. RIP Hange 💐
Floch wins my heart👑
The way I interpret Eren is that he has the ultimate hindsight. He's already done all this and now is forced to live out his actions while hating himself for committing them. Like if you do a run of a videogame for the first time and then are forced to replay it in the exact same manner, just this time with hindsight giving you different emotions.
Or basically that as much as he doesn't want to do it, his emotions force him to. So that it's not completely fate, just that he's a slave to his yearning for freedom and his emotions. In fact, that scene of kid Eren relishing in the freedom seems to me like he's dissociating from his actions because he can't deal with the guilt of it all
8:25 if i had to nail it down I think its because its a 'us or them' situation or at least the fans belive it will be. the fandom beilves only way for edians to not get killed off is for eren to rumble
Eren did nothing wrong
The ending of AOT will really go on to prove that the fantasy part of this story is really just Paradis Island. The rest of the world is pretty damn realistic, as we all show in our views of Eren's characters and our ability to find every possible way to convince ourselves that he is a monster. We have gone full circle from being on the side of Eldia, to being Marley ourselves. It's pretty damn obvious that Eren is a child who doesn't even know what he is doing and is going off on the argument that no one can tell him he ain't right, he simply has to be right.
But somehow we have been able to compare him to fully logical people who were capable of great evil while knowing that it was evil, or even people that dehumanized their targets to make themselves feel like they were in the right and could do whatever they wanted.
And Eren is just there, knowing damn well that the people he is killing bear no crimes. He has no animosity towards them, and so he has truly broken down the cycle of hatred. But the childish part in all of this is that, there is no way to be certain that the survivors won't go back into this cycle. There is no way to guarantee that something else won't restart the whole cycle even without the titan. Eren truly agree with Zeke and the marleyans. He believes himself and his people to be such a problem that in his mind, as long as the whole world can go beyond their hatred of eldians and forgive them, everything will be alright. The only difference is that he lived with the Eldians so he can't bring himself to erase them directly like Zeke wanted to.
I don’t know the true end of this story.
But basically in my eyes and mind , humanity is the essence of problem. Yes everything will lead to another fight ( always ) .
But after eren is stopped and gone , I think so will titans and only remaining populace will be just human , and people won’t be “ this is eldia or that “ . It’ll only be human vs another human .
It’s clear 2000 years before titans and will be in the future. “It’s just human “. Example the war that was happening before eren went out of the wall .
Hail floch the hero who don't change his mind eveytime like Mikasa, Jean, COnny or Armin.
1:16:44 This, thank you.
Also, people seems to forget what Pixies cared the most of their "consitution": Is this gonna save more lives?
Which of course in philosophy itself has tricky arguments, but genocide it's clearly out of that.
Falco makes sense if he has beast power since beast can be of any type like a flying falcon
"Shinzo wo sasageyo" by Levi to Hange got me.
it almost sounds like "Go die honorably, Valhalla."
I need to put this disclaimer so that you will not be spoiled: don't read those who will comment me.
Eren finally destroying fandom', view of him is peak for me. No noble reason (eve if in a twisted way it might be) no higher plan as fandom suspected...just pure vengeace towards a world he doesn't accept.
saving his friend? ok he can do that
saving paradise? he can do that
but he wants deastruction, he wants the epty world he dreamed with his best friends (from where he first read amrin's book about the outside world), he want a world where he and Armin can travel in all the places he saw in THAT BOOK. His jelousy towards the humanity is what makes him a great Shonen character (what i mean by shonen character is that mangas for teenegers usually have the MC who is pure, noble reasons and with bad traits that usually are overcome throwout the show. Isayama basically does what Togashi did with gon, a kid that destroys the Battle manga MC troupe, that doesn't care about all the stuff, he cares about what HE WANTS TO CARE).
People are dying cuz he is a kid that can't accept the fact that people are having what he does not have and he fought to have it (most of his friends died for that). THIS IS A COMEMNT I FOULD IN THE COMMENTS AND EXPLAINS BETTER THAT I CAN:
"When I learned that humanity was alive outside the walls, I was disappointed."
I really think that Eren wasn't too bothered about the fact that most of the people outside the walls were hostile towards Paradis. I think what Eren actually meant by the line above was that he was bothered by their EXISTENCE, because the idea of humans living outside the walls contradicted his childish fantasy of a empty world beyond the walls with no humans remaining, just so that he can freely explore it as he pleases. The Rumbling is Eren's way to kill all humans outside the walls to recreate his fantasy.
ALL THIS told to a kid that basically doesn't understand a single word he says. In that moment Isayama basically destroys what a Shonen character has been (even tho it's not the only mangaka that did it. togashi did the same during hunter exam. when gon cried cuz he lost his pride when hisoka defeated him): eren vent all his TRUE motivation about why he does all the bad stuff and doesn't want to be understood, eren known he will do bad stuff and he can't be justified BUT STILL, he wants to do it, in the manner he always did "im gonna wipe away every single one of them". A character who basically didn't developt much since season 1. he grew up, he mature a bit, but remained the same kid he was. the Freedom scene is so good for that reason
The ending was Mikasa song previous rumblings was Eren's song
All those 13 years old incel in the comments.
Pls, just stop watching AoT if you did not like the end of AoT.
Jesus... The manga finished two years ago and people still stalking AoT like a toxic, psycho guy is stalking his ex gf.
46:40 actually when you bring someone to the paths, it’s like an instant passes (time moves differently - this is NOT A SPOILER it was shown in S4 PT2)