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Regarding ABORTION, it is pertinent to make mention of a particularly controversial issue, and that is, whether or not an unborn human (whether zygote, embryo, or foetus) is fully human. The undeniable and blatantly obvious fact is, that a child conceived by two parents of the Homo sapiens species (or even cloned from a single parent) is without doubt a unique human being from the very moment of conception. Those in favour of illegal abortion (i.e. killing of an unborn child for unlawful, illicit reasons) are quite adamant that it is perfectly fine to end the life of an unborn child (sometimes even a birthed child, believe it or not!) due to it not being fully-developed, insentient and/or conscious. Any person with adequate intelligence knows that even after an infant child has been birthed, it is STILL not fully developed, since it has yet to pass through the preliminary stages of life such as childhood and adolescence. So then, why stop killing at the foetal stage? Why not destroy the life of a twelve year old boy, since he has not yet fully developed unto adulthood? The fact remains that a human is fully human, regardless of the stage of life in which it is situated. It is not partially human and partially giraffe - it is FULLY human. The aforementioned preliminary stages (zygote, embryo, and foetus) are just that - merely stages of the human life-cycle, and although the life of an embryo may not be quite as morally valuable as that of a five year-old child, that is insufficient justification in itself for destroying its life. Therefore, it is debatable whether or not a human embryo is, by the strictest definitions of the terms, a conscious, sentient person, but it is INDISPUTABLE that it is a human being, worthy of protection, and must not be unlawfully terminated in a just society. It is indeed fortuitous that the mothers of outstanding historic personalities such as Lords Krishna, Buddha, and Jesus decided to not murder their precious offspring! Personally, I don’t think that I could ever condone the abortion of a child, by a woman in my family, even if it was morally-permissible, because I could NEVER perform the act of inserting my arm into the uterus of my mother, one of my wives or daughters, and manually extracting the embryo or foetus. And if I could not bring myself to perform such a despicable deed myself, I ought not pay a (so-called) doctor to execute the baby on my behalf. As a strict vegan, I sometimes feel faintly guilty destroying the life of an insect, such as a mosquito or an ant, even when it is attacking me or my food supply, what to speak of terminating the life of a fellow human being, the most highly-evolved species of life in the known universe! It would be far preferable for me to encourage my daughter, wife or mother to give birth to the child and then relinquish it to an adoptive family. See Chapter 12 of “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity” (“F.I.S.H”) to learn the distinction between legitimate abortion and illegal abortion, and to understand metaethics/morality in general. In summary, abortion is legitimate only in the case of rape or if the mother’s life is at risk. To read “F.I.S.H”, which is, without the slightest shadow of a doubt, by FAR the most important work of literature ever composed, Email the address listed on the "About" page of my TH-cam channel, with the acronym “FISH” in the subject field. 🐟
I could be more informed, this will help, but there is no fixing my face, and the government said my condition of my crooked teeth is not life threatening, so much for a guaranteed surgical procedure a year put of the US army I can't have titanium teath, but dude can get chest implants. What gives?
Because bureaucracy can arbitrary on what's good. Was a great lesson that socialistic Healthcare sucks...but I might be wrong on what the context of the system actually is.
“60 million babies died but we missed a few” is such a powerful reframing. Like how can you look at someone who exists because of a “lack of access”, and tell them that they should not exist.
Sad part of this all? Most of the people in favor of Abortion, most likely wouldnt be here to support if it had been legal to begin with. Maybe thats why they are mad?
Reminds me of my own mother. How lucky I was in so many regards I didn't become a statistic in the books. I can only hope that kid is as lucky as I am. But dodging 4 bullets isn't easy.
@@joebuckley2180 every indication is that the vast majority are poor for a reason. That reason largely boils down to self discipline issues. Same with homelessness.
What always trips me out. How many moms who bring their kids to pro abortion rallies. They are basically saying, "F@#$ my kids, I should be able to unalive them "
Perfect example of both sides of the aisle being completely obnoxious. You know nuance exists, right? Wanting the option to be able to abort due to inconvenient circumstances, bad life position, or completely unplanned pregnancy (which can happen with any kind of contraception. No contraception is perfect), is not the same thing as what you said.... not even in the slightest... That is like saying "Because that person wants to drive a car, that is just because he wants to unalive us all" because traffic accidents exist ... Both Pro-Life and Pro-Choice extremists are both such hypocrites... and both are obnoxious to listen to... It is a delicate and from an ethical standpoint difficult discussion to have... There is a baby, so that should be considered (which the extreme pro-choicers ignore 99% of the time), but there is also a mother that should be considered (which the pro-lifers ignore 99% of the time)... There is no right answer, only opinions where on the ethical spectrum you land. But jesus christ the arguments both you and the others make are... sooo.... bad....
That abortion funder might have just said one of the single most unhinged things I have ever heard. “I love my child even though the only reason he’s alive is because I couldn’t pay the hitman.” A federal abortion ban can’t come faster.
As a mandated reporter (teacher), if a parent said this around me, or if their kid said they heard their mom say that, I honestly think I'd be required to report it as psychological abuse
It's never coming. States like Kansas, Montana, and Kentucky have all voted to keep it legal, and Ohio is soon to follow. The American people are not on your side on this issue and overturning Roe v. Wade is the worst thing that could have happened to your movement. No one gives a shit if you think a clump of cells is the same as a viable fetus. You've lost, get over it.
I agree but I don’t think the nation is there yet. We just got Roe v Wade overturned which was a huge win, but it’s going to take time for the public to support a sweeping ban like that.
My favorite part is where she cried that her choice was taken away from her. The irony. I mean you chose to open your legs and not use protection so why are we surprised we are in this situation.
@@NarwahlGaming I cant even begin to imagine how much pain that'll cause for them though im sure there will be warning signs throughout their lives of their mothers disdain
Now that the left has come out as authoritarian warmongers who don’t even know what a woman is, “pro-choice” literally just means “ghoul who wants more dead babies in the world.”
What really galls me is when a pro-aborter speaks to an abortion survivor. The way they look away or roll their eyes. All I can think is, “Did you have to react like that? Why? Do they make you uncomfortable? Remind you of the choices you made? The baby you use to have?” Well, guess what? Being slapped in the face with reality hurts. Being reminded that it’s not some tumor you’re killing but a person may be hard but it’s the truth. I wish I could tell them, “Look. Look at this person in front of you & tell them they aren’t alive. You don’t get to look away. Look them in the eyes & tell them they aren’t human.”
Traumatized because the consequences of sexual relations produced a pregnancy and she couldn't abort it in time. Still considers it trauma even after knowing her child. wow.
It was never really about healthcare, so much as power. Ever hear "women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships"? Relationships are basically dead as social media has ensured everyone stays at each other's throats, and sex has more power than ever when consequences for having it are removed. Also, high body counts rack up someone's accusatory rolodex (if you don't think this is a thing, I give you the "incel" moniker). If left-wing leaning women lose the ability to use sex for advancement, their power structure falls apart.
A clump of cells with no cognitive functions isn't a person, and the majority of the country doesn't give a shit that you and a minority of other people think otherwise. Go cry about it.
Don't forget the "I wish I could get pregnant just so I can get an abortion" statement from Lena Dunham. It's one thing to need one. It's another to WANT one.
@mattstanford9673 Yeah, it would be funny if it wasn't so sick. We said for years, they were sycos who hated the idea of having children. They said we were paranoid. Uh-huh, "paranoid"!
that kid is gonna have some pointed questions when he learns his mom got on an international news program and looks up the interview to see what it was about.
@robonator2945 Kid - Mommy, why do you want me dead. Syco mom - Oh, sweetie, I don't want you dead. Kid - Oh! Good. Sycophantic Mom - I just wish you didn't exist. Kid - I think I need therapy. Syco Witch Women - Just be happy we don't live in Canada! I could say you're suffering, and the Doc might convince you to abort yourself! Kid - Never mind, you need therapy, and I need a restraining order!
"Why slavery supports the rights of N- [ *CENSORED* ] and how the evil right wing Bolsheviks want to keep the _poor poor misguided most likely not humans anyway so It doesnt matter_ people poor and stupid, so they can weaponize them against the kind gentle Democrats who totally want to support and keep the Good parts of slavery." -1800's Vox video...or I guess film or play since its the 1800's.
Of course, if they sided with the democratic party back then as they did now, that would obviously support slavery and blame the republican party for being created to end slavery.
Even in 1972 the average "pro-choice" demonstrator didn't think it would be fine to abort up until birth. That came much later. They were given an inch as a compromise, tried to take a mile and lost it all.
She didn't have enough money at the time but she had enough free time to make bad choices while neglecting the consequences, which happens to be a child having an awful mother
I have to say that this might be one of the only reasons I question being against abortions. Think about the people who make bad choices and get themselves into a bad place. Now think of putting them in charge of another life. Yes, they can grow up and step up... and many do. Or they can choose to hand the child over for others who want to have kids and are unable to do so. But some just can't get to the level of responsibility to do either. And then we end up with more dependents, as those children are more likely to repeat the cycle. Again, this is not enough to make me jump on the "Yay, abortions for all" bandwagon... but it is a counter thought which enters my mind on occasion.... along with sometimes wondering if dystopian fiction where having kids is licensed are on the right track....
@@matthewk87a worthless parent doesn’t mean the child will be. As someone who isn’t religious in the least, I think all humans have an inherent value and should have a chance to live life. By all means, we need to restructure and reorganize the adoption and foster systems. I’d love to have that conversation instead of discussing killing kids because their parents are crappy parents.
@@matthewk87 The answer to that is; humans will be humans, not all will think the same, not all will react the same, allowing someone to mess up that badly and carry the consequences is part of our freedom and what make each of us different. Trying to better things by trying to stop an irresponsible individual allowing them to abort their future victims is as easy and efficient as trying to stop an irresponsible individual who wants kids to get child support. It is simply human selfishness and stupidity, that cannot be changed (at least for now).
@@matthewk87 When you entertain the idea that the challenge of making a good society are it's members, you're starting toward a faithless path, don't you think? If the right to life for living humans isn't sacred and sacrosanct, what right could any human ever claim is sacred?
Hope he sees this documentary and asks her about her views. Sadly though she'll probably teach him to be a self hating man who will understand his mother despises him.
@ActualDrunkAtheist under any other situation I would not say this but that kind needs to be taken away from her. That can not be a safe or healthy home environment
@@warlordjjj2111 I agree the child is taken away, but he is still going to find his mother eventually and he should watch that. I personally believe not everyone is fit to be a parent and this woman is one of them. Doesn't mean her child shouldn't be told of her hatred for him. If my parents had wanted to murder me in mothers womb I would want to know their justification.
@@ActualDrunkAtheist "I wanted to kill you before I got to know you. Now not so much, but if the government would pay for it, I would totally end you right now and reclaim my independence."
this has the same energy as “I brought you in this world, i can take you out of this world too” and i have caused my own mother many of these headaches
I’m so sick of debating abortion at this point with people who want abortion on demand at any point for any reason. I don’t even say I’m pro-life anymore. Instead I prefer to say I’m “anti-baby-murder”. Shuts down debate almost every time, which is fine by me. I’m at the point where I don’t want to try and find common ground with people who support baby murder.
Yeah agreed. Theres no point in trying to get these people to see our side when they dont care and wouod rather lie and twist things than to come to a ln agreement.
I'm sorry... But how's an embryo or a fetus a baby again? In the states where abortion is illegal, there's still clinics that carry embryonic cells for stem cell research. Wouldn't that be facilitating murder? Or, the late stage abortion in which, NOBODY WANTS IT, but it's a choice between the mother's life or carrying a baby to terms with a chance that the baby wouldn't survive?
The gall of these people to thinly veil eugenics as 'human rights' is astounding. None are fit to say who is deserving of life, as all living human beings have the fundamental and inherent rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Thinly veiled? Abortion of a misformed fetus? Yes, that can be considered eugenics. General average abortion? Doesn't even get close to the definition... Maybe look up what eugenics is ...
Remember those tales about Spartans throwing out the deformed and weak babies off a cliff? Good thing civilized society nowadays only kills the inconvenient...
@@DonVigaDeFierro Another bad argument. In those times, essentially everyone in your family (unless you were affluent) needed to contribute to even get enough food on the table to live... Not really comparable to today, where the poor often end up having weight issues...
Calling abortion "healthcare" is an absurdist contradiction. A woman's right to choose does not begin after coitus, it begins long before that. If you're too poor or unstable to have a kid there's a contraceptive with a 100% success rate: abstinence.
You're expecting team feel good Leftists to have a modicum of responsibility and foresight? They don't care because they want freedom from consequence, not freedom to choose.
"B-B-But sex feels good... I shouldn't have to give up *sex* because of the risk of pregnancy!" - The average pro-abortionist who can't go five seconds without wanting to fuck something without contraceptives, 2023
I spent 10 years in a little slice of east African hell. Abortion was not only free, it was widely used when "other family planning" methods failed. The only places it wasn't widely used was out in the bush where it was a many hours trip to the nearest doc. Baby killing is widely accepted in too many countries.
@@cassianopaulo1 That's really how most of the world sees it really. It's a fucking horrific thing but an unfortunately necessary thing. Like how America saw it no less then 100 years ago. You got an abortion cause your kid was born with a fucked up disability that meant there was no way the kid lived and that sorta stuff. That was what it ACTUALLY was, and that was ALL it was for. And how it should be. It's because of feminists that it became what it is now.
"It doesn't mean I don't love my child." The fact that legislation is the only reason your child is alive at all says otherwise, lady. You would think that something as magnificent as the love you have for your own child would make you oppose the idea of denying them the right to live at all, but that's what happens when morality itself has been corrupted
actually this is the one point I kinda agree and have some middle ground... if you use abortion as birth control, it should be mandatory that you get a hysterectomy after the second abortion.
10:24 Wow, I cannot believe she just admitted that she has a kid who is only alive right now because she could not afford an abortion. I wonder if she has ever told her kid that, assuming the kid is old enough to understand what that means. Side note, interesting how she says she wanted to have "a procedure". Like, she can't even bring herself to say the word abortion, she has to use euphemisms when explaining what she tried to do.
Her kid will find out. A person dumb enough to go on camera for that isn’t smart enough to keep that truth from her. Then the kid will abandon her and she will be free and alone, as she wanted all along.
I can’t BELIEVE they actually put in a clip of a woman admitting she wishes she could have killed her child, instead of having him/her. Straight up insanity.
Woman are already afforded enough outs and loopholes to escape taking responsibility for their actions. I draw the line at brutal death of babies by dismemberment
My mom had 3 before having me. She confessed that had my dad not found out she would have had me scooped out without him knowing. She ended up with ovarian cists and later cancer as a result of them and had to have her ovaries removed after my lil sis lucked out. The doctors said the cists and cancer was likely caused by scarring from the abortions.
I had a similar situation with mine actually. Honestly I can't deny I have at least some level of sick pleasure from knowing she suffered for what she tried to do to me. But I got these things called, a job, a home, and hobbies, that I consider more important.
@@TheBcoolGuy Modernity did not cause this. Entitlement and Arrogance are natural in humans, and women being more emotional are worse at it. What caused this was the endless push for Equality creating welfare and the programs of it's like which took away the things humans need to suceed. Women nowadays don't NEED kids to survive when they are sick and or old anymore. So they now see kids as hindering them. Of course they're stupid but still. This is the same thing that killed Rome and killed many empires before it. Stopping the necessary suffering of humans because we want to maoe rhe world a better place. It's a cancer.
If it is morally praiseworthy to defend your neighbor against an attacker, then is it morally praiseworthy to defend a child in the womb from their attacker?
@@NarwahlGaming Typically, one attacker has their legs open while there’s another attacker with forceps and a vacuum. That attacker with the vacuum is not attached to the child.
It's quite common for families with younger children to qualify, even in two-parent households, because they're young enough they haven't moved up in their career yet, and two kids means doubling the number of people, increasing the income limit.
They think of it as "care", because then they don't have to feel bad about having it done. They choose their desired result first, then choose their beliefs, and the definitions of words, to fit that result.
Can you imagine being this lady’s child and someday coming to learn that she was so traumatized that she couldn’t kill you that she made it her life’s mission to kill people like you. But she “loves” you.
I've seen their kids in college. Unfortunately they seem to latch on to the freedom to choose mentality and even make abortion jokes. They don't see the hypocrisy.
And then there's Shelley Lynn Thornton, who had to find out that her biological mother *went to the Supreme Court* to fight for the right to kill her. But she survived because the legal system is slow.
Ok OP, that made me feel really sad. We can talk shit about her being a bad mother and this will bite her eventually…. But finding out o that your mother did everything she could to prevent the reality she faced having you, her child? It’s one thing to be sad that you had to have the baby. It’s another to actively abort other babies after that. She said she loved the kid. I don’t think she knows what love is. She can’t love them if she didn’t think the missed abortion was a blessing in disguise.
@@RileyByrdFlockI will admit that I had not considered that particular demographic. I have, upon your suggestion, begun the process of obtaining the services if a qualified medium who has experience using a 'spirit board'. I'll update with results ASAP.
Very funny, if technically true, unless your refering to their potential sibling? But yeah, if someone is as aborted, they wouldn't be feeling anything, assuming it was in a time frame that it could be referred to as such
So if hypothetically abortion was a constitutional right. And it’s wrong of the government to not finance it. When will the federal government start paying for our guns? Not buying AR-15s for the citizens disproportionately affects poor Americans in stopping them from exercising constitutional rights.
yes.. and I support that right... I don't support us having to pay for another person to exercise their rights though... but I would like the option to, I would donate to an abortion charity a lot happier than I pay taxes that pay for it.
I always find the rape part weird, if the attacker already had a kid we wouldnt give a 3 year old the death penalty because theyre related to a criminal so it seems morally the same as any other elective abortion
@jeice13 I get where you're coming from with this view. However, a big part of this is actions and consequences. People consent to sex and, therefore, consent to the possibility that pregnancy can occur. When someone is raped, the victim didn't consent to the action, and so they don't consent to the consequence. Thus, it's a means to prevent unjust burdens on the victim (i.e. pregnancy and raising the child), unless the victim chooses to accept those consequences. Like I said tho, I can understand your reasoning for why it's wrong/immoral.
The leading cause for abortion is a single one - people having irresponsible sex. If Abortion was made illegal nationwide, men and women in the US would stop sleeping around or practice their hook ups more safely and actually have babies only if said babies are wanted. So in other words, banning abortion would be good for society and would promote two parent households.
If you look at surveys by demographic, the demographic with the highest rate of abortion uses birth control methods that are unreliable at a much higher rate than demographics with low rates of abortion.
@@billyparker5974 Why not legalize slavery and killing poor people then?Those have the same effect of alleviating poverty. Allowing something immoral as a solution is not a solution
@@billyparker5974 I was referring to the US, not other countries. Although a terrible occurrence I doubt r*pe cases are as rampant in the US as the cases of consensual casual sex leading to pregnancy. This is why there should exceptions where abortion should be allowed under extreme circumstances. I'm just disappointed at people that are often irresponsible with their decision making of who to lay with then rush to abort.
Because, as Nietzsche has a reputation for complaining, our culture is still parasitizing off the fumes of a now defunct Christian system. He knew what comes with saying there's no God who gives human beings value for being human. Those who wave off his point will have to find out the hard way, if they have enough brains to figure it out at all.
Perfect timing, I needed this. Simultaneously, I dread watching this, cuz I'd only be able to think of how "Tax Payer Funding" is already the norm in here in Canada, and people would go banshee if funding was reduced. Today, Trudeau and Jagmeet celebrated "International Safe Abortion day" with promises to "increase access to abortion services for all no matter where they live or the size of their paycheque." Freaking circus, like abortions until birth, "free of charge", nationwide wasn't already enough. 🤦♂
It makes more sense if you think of them as literally a death cult. In the ancient world, there were "gods" that people would sacrifice their children to by killing them in horrific ways. The demons behind those "gods" are still around.
They have an ideology that doesn't believe that choices should have consequences. It's why they care more about abortion than promoting effective contraception use. You often see it in the way they talk about money. They don't think they should be "punished" for their life choices by having less money to spend on things.
I love how these leftist talk about how the right is always obsessed with money and everything that they try to argue about ending the life of a human being is about money.
You're missing the forest for the trees. Leftists see the money as a necessary evil, and access and freedom and feeling good is their priority. Meanwhile they attack Conservatives for prioritizing money arguments over people. Remember, Leftists are far more likely to be Feeling/ Sensing people on the Meyer's-Briggs chart while Conservatives are Judging/ Perceiving. A Leftist does what makes them feel good, no further thought nor logical equality is needed. (Kids in cages is a horribly evil idea, but it was okay when Obama did it and now with Biden because they don't call it that.) A conservative thinks through their position and stands by what makes sense for the masses. A MAGA bandwagon kool-aid drinker is just as feel good as a Leftist; feeling loyal to their worshipfullness is more important than logically reasoning their positions or arguing against anything Trump did unethically... like forcing Project Warpspeed on us.
It's not just about money. It's about having the freedom to pursue a career, education, or whatever goals one may have without being impeded by the burden of pregnancy. Without abortion rights, men and women can never be equal.
@@margaretschultz6209 Young people have sex, no amount of legislation is going to stop that. Birth control isn't 100 percent effective, and there will always be a chance it fails. As a result, women are expected to make significant lifestyle changes for the next 9 months, while men face no such repercussions for their involvement. As I said before, there is no gender equality without abortion rights.
I'm so sick of this "muh poor people disproportionately affected". You can earn $1200 in 2 weeks at a temp agency, and that's barely doing overtime! And this idea that the rich can just take time off work, go travel to another place, and have a $1200 procedure is absurd. They honestly might not be able to. Upper middle class people have a mortgage and property taxes to think about. But you not having money _is totally just as stressful as someone who works 60 hours a week and owes hundreds of thousands,_ right???
Excellent point at 2:36. I honestly hadn't even thought of tax cuts for larger families. That's a great pro-family policy, and it's a shame that we never here any politicians talk about it.
Still would have to be written in a way that doesn't continue to incentivize single parent households and women to just have a continous stream of babies with multiple different men.
@@kaitb07 Something like "To qualify for the large family tax deduction, the age of the eldest biological child of two parties of opposing sexes must be verified to be at least equal to the duration of the marriage"
In Hungary, if a woman has a child before the age of 30, she's exempt from income tax for life. I would say we should do something like that, but I also think nobody should have to pay income tax, so. . .
@Akanoyoru hmm. Cause there would have to be some exceptions like a spouse passes, etc. And accounting for a dead beat parent or a legitimate divorce, like one person beating the other, etc. Vs "irreconcilable differences" bs. I'm sure it's doable.
Where do they get off demanding tax-payer funded abortion? If you don't want a kid but can't afford an abortion then don't do the deed.... This is the age of no personal responsibility
Most people who get abortions didn't use birth control, or used it incorrectly. Using condoms at all, using the correct size when they do, and a few other things that are probably on instructions in the package they come in, would prevent almost every pregnancy that is terminated by abortion. As a bonus, it would also prevent a lot of STDs, some of which can't be removed by a visit to a clinic.
@@Br3ttM Eh, they just always have excuses for their laziness or relative stupidity. Either it's "too hard" to avoid a pregnancy, or they're "too poor" to avoid a pregnancy. God forbid someone tracks their SO's fertility cycle which allows you to know the lower chance periods, or be willing to spend $20 on a box of condoms that would allow you to bang, one day a month, for a whole month. Sure do love the idea that a portion of the money *stolen* from me every paycheck is going to some asshole's abortion while I have to try to be responsible and spend my own money to avoid it.
Debunkers are my favorite videos that you guys make. Their probably some of the harder content to make with all the extra research involved but I wanted to let you know the extra work doesn’t go unnoticed.
I started using the term "abortionist" years ago. I'm glad its now catching on. Remember, we have to frame our arguments well so that fence-sitter normietards can't get caught up by commie word-games the left loves playing. It's not "pro-choice" its "abortionist" It's not "anti-gun" it's "anti-self defense"
A society which does not believe in choices and personal responsibility and think consequences dont(or shouldn't) exist is not a society which will last long.
They talk about “internalized racism” when people call for things like personal responsibility or legal immigration, but when it comes to killing babies they’re all for it. Given its history, support for abortion is by far the biggest example of actual internalized racism.
It's the racism of low expectations that really applies to abortion. They think Black people can't be expected to use birth control at the rate White people do. A large percentage of Black Americans use "pulling out" as their main birth control, and it is very unreliable. They also use condoms more over pills or UIDs, in comparison to White Americans, and condoms have lower effectiveness due to user error (like wrong size).
It's almost like people should not be forced to pay for YOUR decisions to not use contraception and to have sex with random ass strangers or something. . .
@@RileyByrdFlock Very strange logic, if you ask me, though. It seems we're covering the cost of people acting like bums, and then getting surprised when they see that as an incentive!
I noticed their political videos are never "here's our position and here's why it's correct", they're "here's our 100% correct position we won't even bother proving, here's how to achieve that"
The scariest part of all this is having to pay the consequences for living in a country where 60 million babies are murdered. God may not be so merciful much longer.
"Unfortunately, I couldn't have an abortion. I love my child, but me me me me me, my feelings are more important than the *literal life of my child* " I don't know how these people sleep at night
They lie and gaslight themselves into thinking a life is not a life, and a human is not a human. The gaslighting is pretty heavy, actually. And they don't even need to lie about basic biology and gaslight because there are plenty of pro-aborts that don't deny basic biological principles of life and reproduction, acknowledging the reality of abortion yet still support it. *That* is scarier and even more twisted, then if you ask how *they* sleep at night? I could not tell you...
10:30 this moment is wild; and I am sure she has said this to her kid when she is mad with him, these people are disgusting and do not want to have babies because they want to still be disgusting without responsability of another human. I wish I could say personally to that kid "you deserved to be born no matter what your mother has said, do not listen to her and you will live a better live than her"
My brother in law worked for Medicaid answering phones explaining why coverage was denied for certain procedures and passing on appeals. He told me that that Medicaid allows (pays for) 3 abortions per year. He also described a situation where a doctor called in asking why a patient's coverage was denied. The doctor then found out the woman on Medicaid had already had 5 abortions that year paid for by Medicaid and the sixth was denied. This was about 2019 when I heard this. My brother in law later quite as he could not emotionally handle this very frequent dialogue. Yes, Medicaid pays for many many abortions and does not follow the law limiting paying for it.
Because "The life/health of the mother" includes every excuse under the sun. Any inconvenience, no matter how trivial to anyone else, is traumatic to a woman who doesn't believe she should accept the consequences of her behavior.
@@freethebirds3578 so your argument is society shouldn't have to pay for the consequences of one's behavior? and you think forcing that person to squeeze out a kid, which forces us to have to deal with their offspring isn't forcing society to have to pay for the consequences of her behavior how? I'd rather spend a one time fee than have to pay for increased prices due to what that kid would eventually steal, or constantly increased utility and taxes because I will eventually have to pay for that kid's jail time (let's face it, a person who would use abortion as birth control would be a very unfit and probably abusive parent, and people growing up under unfit adults become unfit adults themselves, so this is like a pre-emptive death penalty at a discount)
Forced sterilization for imbeciles (legal term) is still allowed by Supreme Court in 1920's or so. Most states have outlawed it in the last 20 years. Some have been forced to pay reparations. @@notusingmyname4791
@@notusingmyname4791 Murder an innocent human because you don't want to support them? You have completely ignored adoption. Many people, including me, would love to adopt but can't afford to because of scarcity. What is your solution for welfare recipients and the homeless? Ghoul.
that lady who couldn't pay for an abortion. "Hi son, I couldn't pay to have you killed, and I've regretted that every day of your life. I regret it so much, that I'm going to make sure no other woman has to suffer the way I suffered!" Son - "Thanks mom, you don't have to tell me again, you only tell me this two or three times every day..."
Extreme issues sometimes require extreme example so I must question the people that are for abortion that if I saw a pregnant cat and I kicked it in the stomach is that Healthcare or murder? If I saw a pregnant elephant walking by a harpoon into its stomach, is that health care or is that murder? What about a pregnant spider? If I step on the spider is that health care or is that murder? So what does that have to do with a baby human that has its own blood type its own DNA code its own fingerprint and soon its own personality? Somehow that's okay to kill that?
You can only murder a person, you can kill an animal. Murder is a humancentric word. A person is formed when an egg is fertilized so don't take this to mean I'm for infanticide.
It's insanity. You ask someone their opinion on abortion (ie murdering an unborn child in a horrific manner) and they'll say they're for it, but you suggest killing unborn puppies because you don't want to pay for them and I bet you that same person would thin you were a horrible monster. I can't with this world today.
@@purplefern6010 They value dogs more than human lives. Well, I'd say that confidently, but the lot of these types probably have no problem considering the murder of a pregnant woman double homicide. I think they're just unthinking about the consistency of their moral codes.
There is even a good argument against abortion in case of rape that changed my mind: "Why murder someone when somebody else wronged you?" If you believe that death is worse than suffering then there is no reason to support abortion in that case.
I'm okay with abortion after rape being legal, but I'd still encourage the mother to put the child up for adoption as a first alternative to keeping the rainbow child. For anyone unfamiliar, a rainbow baby is a baby born after a tragedy such as prior miscarriage or rape.
Rape is a violent assault. It just happens to have a chance to produce a child. A raped woman who IMMEDIATELY files a police report and goes to the hospital to confirm the assault should be allowed to have the pregnancy terminated. I am pro-life, but this is impregnation by force through an illegal, violent, and monstrous act. This is not consensual. It is not life conceived through love or ignorance. Then the woman has 24 hours to take the 'morning after' pill. If she doesn't, we go full term, and I applaud the determination. I understand that it is still a life, but one that was never meant to be, due to the violence. If the raped woman fears a pregnancy, take the pill IMMEDIATELY. Also, death penalty for violent, proven rapists.
Good point. Add to that, that many abortion procedures are done after the baby can feel pain. So the baby is killed in ways that are tantamount to torture.
I can't see two comments by the way. The only comment I see when writing this is CowCommando's. If you others want it to be seen you'll have to re-write it and use very heavy innuendos to not get wiped.
In Sweet Home Alabama the state legislature did just that. The only legal exception is to protect the life of the mother. All other reasons will get the "provider" tossed in prison and sued into oblivion. One down, 49 more to go...
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Regarding ABORTION, it is pertinent to make mention of a particularly controversial issue, and that is, whether or not an unborn human (whether zygote, embryo, or foetus) is fully human. The undeniable and blatantly obvious fact is, that a child conceived by two parents of the Homo sapiens species (or even cloned from a single parent) is without doubt a unique human being from the very moment of conception. Those in favour of illegal abortion (i.e. killing of an unborn child for unlawful, illicit reasons) are quite adamant that it is perfectly fine to end the life of an unborn child (sometimes even a birthed child, believe it or not!) due to it not being fully-developed, insentient and/or conscious.
Any person with adequate intelligence knows that even after an infant child has been birthed, it is STILL not fully developed, since it has yet to pass through the preliminary stages of life such as childhood and adolescence. So then, why stop killing at the foetal stage? Why not destroy the life of a twelve year old boy, since he has not yet fully developed unto adulthood? The fact remains that a human is fully human, regardless of the stage of life in which it is situated. It is not partially human and partially giraffe - it is FULLY human. The aforementioned preliminary stages (zygote, embryo, and foetus) are just that - merely stages of the human life-cycle, and although the life of an embryo may not be quite as morally valuable as that of a five year-old child, that is insufficient justification in itself for destroying its life.
Therefore, it is debatable whether or not a human embryo is, by the strictest definitions of the terms, a conscious, sentient person, but it is INDISPUTABLE that it is a human being, worthy of protection, and must not be unlawfully terminated in a just society. It is indeed fortuitous that the mothers of outstanding historic personalities such as Lords Krishna, Buddha, and Jesus decided to not murder their precious offspring!
Personally, I don’t think that I could ever condone the abortion of a child, by a woman in my family, even if it was morally-permissible, because I could NEVER perform the act of inserting my arm into the uterus of my mother, one of my wives or daughters, and manually extracting the embryo or foetus. And if I could not bring myself to perform such a despicable deed myself, I ought not pay a (so-called) doctor to execute the baby on my behalf. As a strict vegan, I sometimes feel faintly guilty destroying the life of an insect, such as a mosquito or an ant, even when it is attacking me or my food supply, what to speak of terminating the life of a fellow human being, the most highly-evolved species of life in the known universe! It would be far preferable for me to encourage my daughter, wife or mother to give birth to the child and then relinquish it to an adoptive family.
See Chapter 12 of “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity” (“F.I.S.H”) to learn the distinction between legitimate abortion and illegal abortion, and to understand metaethics/morality in general.
In summary, abortion is legitimate only in the case of rape or if the mother’s life is at risk.
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I could be more informed, this will help, but there is no fixing my face, and the government said my condition of my crooked teeth is not life threatening, so much for a guaranteed surgical procedure a year put of the US army I can't have titanium teath, but dude can get chest implants. What gives?
Google GTVflyers to find out who subverted your government.
Because bureaucracy can arbitrary on what's good. Was a great lesson that socialistic Healthcare sucks...but I might be wrong on what the context of the system actually is.
“60 million babies died but we missed a few” is such a powerful reframing. Like how can you look at someone who exists because of a “lack of access”, and tell them that they should not exist.
Damn, that’s as many people who died in WWII
That is twice the kill count of Hitler and Stalin COMBINED
Just a reminder, that is 10 times the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust.
Sad part of this all?
Most of the people in favor of Abortion, most likely wouldnt be here to support if it had been legal to begin with.
Maybe thats why they are mad?
@@dreamwolf7302 definitely. Every time I get into this debate, they always go to "I wish I was aborted" or they go to "you should've been aborted"
Every atrocity begins with dehumanizing the victim, abortion is no different.
Don't you love when nazis forget to bring their mirrors?
The nazi had the jews, the comunist had the rich, the feminst had the children
Look how far it spread too. MAID in Canada is the result of the slippery slope "fallacy".
Obligatory "Believe absurdities" quote by Voltaire. Life starts at conception, thinking otherwise is denying reality.
The victim of abortion is the child. I hope thats where you're going with that.
Blew my mind when she was like, "I love my kid but if I had the money I would have killed him." Absolute insanity.
I hope her kid never sees that video.
@@erikhermansen3431 I hope he does.
Reminds me of my own mother. How lucky I was in so many regards I didn't become a statistic in the books. I can only hope that kid is as lucky as I am. But dodging 4 bullets isn't easy.
In Canada their pushing for government approved suicide
Yeah... wow
But you know what's free and the rich and poor have equal access to it? Abstinence.
Lol
You think poor people have the capacity for self control 😂
@antibull4869 yes, I do. I believe you can still be poor and hold on to your morals.
Ah, but that requires discipline of which most people lack.
@@joebuckley2180 every indication is that the vast majority are poor for a reason.
That reason largely boils down to self discipline issues.
Same with homelessness.
@@joebuckley2180they’re poor for a reason. Usually, lack of self control.
There's a special place in hell for people that support these kinds of despicable crimes against humanity.
It’s called a trip to California.
@@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090or pittsburgh
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What always trips me out. How many moms who bring their kids to pro abortion rallies. They are basically saying, "F@#$ my kids, I should be able to unalive them "
Perfect example of both sides of the aisle being completely obnoxious.
You know nuance exists, right?
Wanting the option to be able to abort due to inconvenient circumstances, bad life position, or completely unplanned pregnancy (which can happen with any kind of contraception. No contraception is perfect), is not the same thing as what you said.... not even in the slightest...
That is like saying "Because that person wants to drive a car, that is just because he wants to unalive us all" because traffic accidents exist ...
Both Pro-Life and Pro-Choice extremists are both such hypocrites... and both are obnoxious to listen to...
It is a delicate and from an ethical standpoint difficult discussion to have...
There is a baby, so that should be considered (which the extreme pro-choicers ignore 99% of the time), but there is also a mother that should be considered (which the pro-lifers ignore 99% of the time)...
There is no right answer, only opinions where on the ethical spectrum you land.
But jesus christ the arguments both you and the others make are... sooo.... bad....
Yeah. It definitely doesn't do a kid a lot of good to know they are just lucky.
And every one of those harpies is a democrat. It’s a problem that will eventually solve it self.
@@anyfriendofkevinbaconisafr177 Another one, bad argument for your side... -_-
Holy crap, people actually do that?!?
That abortion funder might have just said one of the single most unhinged things I have ever heard. “I love my child even though the only reason he’s alive is because I couldn’t pay the hitman.” A federal abortion ban can’t come faster.
Nothing will happen until you force hoes to stop hiding behind victims.
As a mandated reporter (teacher), if a parent said this around me, or if their kid said they heard their mom say that, I honestly think I'd be required to report it as psychological abuse
It's never coming. States like Kansas, Montana, and Kentucky have all voted to keep it legal, and Ohio is soon to follow. The American people are not on your side on this issue and overturning Roe v. Wade is the worst thing that could have happened to your movement. No one gives a shit if you think a clump of cells is the same as a viable fetus. You've lost, get over it.
I agree but I don’t think the nation is there yet. We just got Roe v Wade overturned which was a huge win, but it’s going to take time for the public to support a sweeping ban like that.
My favorite part is where she cried that her choice was taken away from her. The irony. I mean you chose to open your legs and not use protection so why are we surprised we are in this situation.
Rep. Hyde saved ~2,000,000 lives. How many people can say something like that?
Guy deserves an award. This is the opposite of those "special places in hell" types of people.
I'm surprised the Debunkers didn't take that as a moment to say "at least there is one good thing that came out of Illinois
Is that before or after making the deductions for illegal or out of state abortions?
@@henrybierman8431true
The Soviet soldier who hesitated on the nuke button can. 😂
So in short: my body, my choice, your responsibility.
My wife is currently expecting our second child, unexpected pregnancy, financially inconvenient, but loved all the same.
Stop killing your babies.
"I love my child but I only love them because I was forced to" is the coldest thing a human being could say
And that child is going to find that interview years from now and be devastated.
@@NarwahlGaming I cant even begin to imagine how much pain that'll cause for them though im sure there will be warning signs throughout their lives of their mothers disdain
"where would you be if your mom aborted you" is the stupidest argument though... obviously I wouldn't be at all... what's the point?
@@notusingmyname4791well I imagine you're probably happy to be alive and not dead, aren't you?
Now that the left has come out as authoritarian warmongers who don’t even know what a woman is, “pro-choice” literally just means “ghoul who wants more dead babies in the world.”
What really galls me is when a pro-aborter speaks to an abortion survivor. The way they look away or roll their eyes. All I can think is, “Did you have to react like that? Why? Do they make you uncomfortable? Remind you of the choices you made? The baby you use to have?”
Well, guess what? Being slapped in the face with reality hurts. Being reminded that it’s not some tumor you’re killing but a person may be hard but it’s the truth. I wish I could tell them, “Look. Look at this person in front of you & tell them they aren’t alive. You don’t get to look away. Look them in the eyes & tell them they aren’t human.”
I agree. Great comment!!
@@ben-jam-in6941 I’d especially like that abortion advocate to explain herself to her kid. Oh, to be a fly on the wall during that conversation.
"Abortion survivor" is a really fucking terrifying term.
How about “state sanctioned murder survivor”
But then they say that no one is human until they leave the womb
I think we need to address how hiring a hitman is difficult for the economically disadvantaged.
Hiring a hitman for the economy itself only takes a checkmark in a box
Traumatized because the consequences of sexual relations produced a pregnancy and she couldn't abort it in time. Still considers it trauma even after knowing her child. wow.
"Whatever happened to safe, legal, and rare? Oh... was that always B***S*** or something?"
Exactly, thank you!
It was never really about healthcare, so much as power. Ever hear "women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships"? Relationships are basically dead as social media has ensured everyone stays at each other's throats, and sex has more power than ever when consequences for having it are removed. Also, high body counts rack up someone's accusatory rolodex (if you don't think this is a thing, I give you the "incel" moniker). If left-wing leaning women lose the ability to use sex for advancement, their power structure falls apart.
Hard to make common ground with people that don't value human life.
Even harder when they scream for gun bans, to "save the children" 🙄
@@mikebolton3816Exactly!!!
You bury them.
A clump of cells with no cognitive functions isn't a person, and the majority of the country doesn't give a shit that you and a minority of other people think otherwise. Go cry about it.
I’m starting to think these people need to be told how to live their lives.
The "I'm sorry I didn't kill my child" has to be the most repulsive stance you could take. Selfishness personified.
Don't forget the "I wish I could get pregnant just so I can get an abortion" statement from Lena Dunham.
It's one thing to need one. It's another to WANT one.
@mattstanford9673 Yeah, it would be funny if it wasn't so sick. We said for years, they were sycos who hated the idea of having children. They said we were paranoid. Uh-huh, "paranoid"!
that kid is gonna have some pointed questions when he learns his mom got on an international news program and looks up the interview to see what it was about.
@robonator2945 Kid - Mommy, why do you want me dead. Syco mom - Oh, sweetie, I don't want you dead. Kid - Oh! Good. Sycophantic Mom - I just wish you didn't exist. Kid - I think I need therapy. Syco Witch Women - Just be happy we don't live in Canada! I could say you're suffering, and the Doc might convince you to abort yourself! Kid - Never mind, you need therapy, and I need a restraining order!
I think abortions can allow for a better environment for a future kid you may decide to have. It's about taking parenting seriously
If Vox was around in the 1800s they would've made a video supporting slavery.
so we free the slaves then what? have them be hated AND unemployed?
"Why slavery supports the rights of N- [ *CENSORED* ] and how the evil right wing Bolsheviks want to keep the _poor poor misguided most likely not humans anyway so It doesnt matter_ people poor and stupid, so they can weaponize them against the kind gentle Democrats who totally want to support and keep the Good parts of slavery." -1800's Vox video...or I guess film or play since its the 1800's.
Of course, if they sided with the democratic party back then as they did now, that would obviously support slavery and blame the republican party for being created to end slavery.
“people should have the right to own property, the evil republicans want to take our rights away”
Why are there 4 replies to this comment... But I can't see them?
If the Supreme Court can "grant you a right", the supreme Court can take that right away
Even in 1972 the average "pro-choice" demonstrator didn't think it would be fine to abort up until birth. That came much later.
They were given an inch as a compromise, tried to take a mile and lost it all.
"I love my child, but I wanted to kill them" Well isn't that just being blunt of what they want.
She didn't have enough money at the time but she had enough free time to make bad choices while neglecting the consequences, which happens to be a child having an awful mother
I have to say that this might be one of the only reasons I question being against abortions. Think about the people who make bad choices and get themselves into a bad place. Now think of putting them in charge of another life. Yes, they can grow up and step up... and many do. Or they can choose to hand the child over for others who want to have kids and are unable to do so. But some just can't get to the level of responsibility to do either. And then we end up with more dependents, as those children are more likely to repeat the cycle.
Again, this is not enough to make me jump on the "Yay, abortions for all" bandwagon... but it is a counter thought which enters my mind on occasion.... along with sometimes wondering if dystopian fiction where having kids is licensed are on the right track....
@@matthewk87Free abortion won't teach them shit and they will keep being stupid.
That's a good argument for forced sterilizstion, not abortion.
@@matthewk87a worthless parent doesn’t mean the child will be. As someone who isn’t religious in the least, I think all humans have an inherent value and should have a chance to live life. By all means, we need to restructure and reorganize the adoption and foster systems. I’d love to have that conversation instead of discussing killing kids because their parents are crappy parents.
@@matthewk87 The answer to that is; humans will be humans, not all will think the same, not all will react the same, allowing someone to mess up that badly and carry the consequences is part of our freedom and what make each of us different.
Trying to better things by trying to stop an irresponsible individual allowing them to abort their future victims is as easy and efficient as trying to stop an irresponsible individual who wants kids to get child support.
It is simply human selfishness and stupidity, that cannot be changed (at least for now).
@@matthewk87 When you entertain the idea that the challenge of making a good society are it's members, you're starting toward a faithless path, don't you think? If the right to life for living humans isn't sacred and sacrosanct, what right could any human ever claim is sacred?
“Don’t worry guys I love my kid, but I should’ve had the choice to fcking kill him” is such a fcking twisted mindset
Hope he sees this documentary and asks her about her views. Sadly though she'll probably teach him to be a self hating man who will understand his mother despises him.
@ActualDrunkAtheist under any other situation I would not say this but that kind needs to be taken away from her. That can not be a safe or healthy home environment
@@warlordjjj2111 I agree the child is taken away, but he is still going to find his mother eventually and he should watch that. I personally believe not everyone is fit to be a parent and this woman is one of them. Doesn't mean her child shouldn't be told of her hatred for him. If my parents had wanted to murder me in mothers womb I would want to know their justification.
@@ActualDrunkAtheist "I wanted to kill you before I got to know you. Now not so much, but if the government would pay for it, I would totally end you right now and reclaim my independence."
this has the same energy as “I brought you in this world, i can take you out of this world too” and i have caused my own mother many of these headaches
Debate is fruitless they will never acknowledge personhood of unborn child and we will never put women's body autonomy above life.
killer end line: "If i was advocating for the abortion industry, I would keep my mouth shut about anything coming at the expense of the helpless."
I’m so sick of debating abortion at this point with people who want abortion on demand at any point for any reason. I don’t even say I’m pro-life anymore. Instead I prefer to say I’m “anti-baby-murder”. Shuts down debate almost every time, which is fine by me. I’m at the point where I don’t want to try and find common ground with people who support baby murder.
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@@sidthesquidh you called me ?
Yeah agreed. Theres no point in trying to get these people to see our side when they dont care and wouod rather lie and twist things than to come to a ln agreement.
I can compromise on tax rates but on murder? No, sir.
I'm sorry... But how's an embryo or a fetus a baby again? In the states where abortion is illegal, there's still clinics that carry embryonic cells for stem cell research. Wouldn't that be facilitating murder? Or, the late stage abortion in which, NOBODY WANTS IT, but it's a choice between the mother's life or carrying a baby to terms with a chance that the baby wouldn't survive?
The gall of these people to thinly veil eugenics as 'human rights' is astounding. None are fit to say who is deserving of life, as all living human beings have the fundamental and inherent rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Thinly veiled?
Abortion of a misformed fetus? Yes, that can be considered eugenics.
General average abortion?
Doesn't even get close to the definition...
Maybe look up what eugenics is ...
Remember those tales about Spartans throwing out the deformed and weak babies off a cliff?
Good thing civilized society nowadays only kills the inconvenient...
@@DonVigaDeFierro Another bad argument.
In those times, essentially everyone in your family (unless you were affluent) needed to contribute to even get enough food on the table to live...
Not really comparable to today, where the poor often end up having weight issues...
Eugenics is the number one thing we need in this country. Too many useful idiots for the democrat party
all innocent living human beings.
Calling abortion "healthcare" is an absurdist contradiction.
A woman's right to choose does not begin after coitus, it begins long before that. If you're too poor or unstable to have a kid there's a contraceptive with a 100% success rate: abstinence.
You're expecting team feel good Leftists to have a modicum of responsibility and foresight? They don't care because they want freedom from consequence, not freedom to choose.
ban birth control
'Poor' and 'unstable' people aren't exactly known to make the smartest choices.
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Abortion or birth control. Your choice.
"B-B-But sex feels good... I shouldn't have to give up *sex* because of the risk of pregnancy!" - The average pro-abortionist who can't go five seconds without wanting to fuck something without contraceptives, 2023
Ok if it’s “a choice that should only be made by her” then don’t demand others be involved to pay for “your choice”
When that woman said “that doesn’t mean I don’t love my child.” I wanted to be sick. I pray she repents
11:58 How can you say you love your child, but you're upset you failed to kill them. What's wrong with these people?
It's simple, it's called evil but we don't believe in such a thing now that we have The Science(TM).
"Or if you wanted to go to heaven."
Well said Seamus, well said.
It's horrific what's happening. Way too few people are even remotely against killing babies outside the US
Why would enemies of the US care about killing kids in the US?
I spent 10 years in a little slice of east African hell. Abortion was not only free, it was widely used when "other family planning" methods failed. The only places it wasn't widely used was out in the bush where it was a many hours trip to the nearest doc. Baby killing is widely accepted in too many countries.
Americans are literally built different.
On Brazil we see is it as the most awful thing someone can do. But still. Some left people are trying to liberate it
@@cassianopaulo1 That's really how most of the world sees it really. It's a fucking horrific thing but an unfortunately necessary thing. Like how America saw it no less then 100 years ago. You got an abortion cause your kid was born with a fucked up disability that meant there was no way the kid lived and that sorta stuff. That was what it ACTUALLY was, and that was ALL it was for. And how it should be.
It's because of feminists that it became what it is now.
If you used proper precautions, you wouldn't need an abortion. Imagine being responsible for your own actions.
"It doesn't mean I don't love my child." The fact that legislation is the only reason your child is alive at all says otherwise, lady. You would think that something as magnificent as the love you have for your own child would make you oppose the idea of denying them the right to live at all, but that's what happens when morality itself has been corrupted
"Should we stop having unprotected sex? No, abortion is a way better form of birth control."
They value their moments of intense pleasure over their child's life.
God should have finished the job with the flood the first time. Mankind is evil.
Until both inevitably f$&k up women’s bodies permanently
Funny that it's called "birth control" and not "conception control"
actually this is the one point I kinda agree and have some middle ground... if you use abortion as birth control, it should be mandatory that you get a hysterectomy after the second abortion.
@@notusingmyname4791 first*
"Sociopaths for America" is right.
10:24
Wow, I cannot believe she just admitted that she has a kid who is only alive right now because she could not afford an abortion. I wonder if she has ever told her kid that, assuming the kid is old enough to understand what that means.
Side note, interesting how she says she wanted to have "a procedure". Like, she can't even bring herself to say the word abortion, she has to use euphemisms when explaining what she tried to do.
describe abortion like it is: cracking the baby's head open and hoovering it out.
A euphemism for a euphemism at that.
Step one: Dehumanize the victim.
Step two: Downplay the actions against.
Step three: Lather, rinse, repeat.
Her kid will find out. A person dumb enough to go on camera for that isn’t smart enough to keep that truth from her.
Then the kid will abandon her and she will be free and alone, as she wanted all along.
I find it hard to believe anyone was willing to impregnate her
I can’t BELIEVE they actually put in a clip of a woman admitting she wishes she could have killed her child, instead of having him/her. Straight up insanity.
Woman are already afforded enough outs and loopholes to escape taking responsibility for their actions. I draw the line at brutal death of babies by dismemberment
My mom had 3 before having me. She confessed that had my dad not found out she would have had me scooped out without him knowing. She ended up with ovarian cists and later cancer as a result of them and had to have her ovaries removed after my lil sis lucked out. The doctors said the cists and cancer was likely caused by scarring from the abortions.
That's so sad :(
I had a similar situation with mine actually. Honestly I can't deny I have at least some level of sick pleasure from knowing she suffered for what she tried to do to me.
But I got these things called, a job, a home, and hobbies, that I consider more important.
The level of entitlement and arrogance that modernity has caused in women is a tragedy. I'm glad you're here, buddy. Life is a beautiful thing.
@@TheBcoolGuy Modernity did not cause this.
Entitlement and Arrogance are natural in humans, and women being more emotional are worse at it.
What caused this was the endless push for Equality creating welfare and the programs of it's like which took away the things humans need to suceed.
Women nowadays don't NEED kids to survive when they are sick and or old anymore. So they now see kids as hindering them.
Of course they're stupid but still.
This is the same thing that killed Rome and killed many empires before it.
Stopping the necessary suffering of humans because we want to maoe rhe world a better place.
It's a cancer.
Punishment from God striking a child killer.
If it is morally praiseworthy to defend your neighbor against an attacker, then is it morally praiseworthy to defend a child in the womb from their attacker?
It's too bad we can't separate the attacker from the child.
@@NarwahlGaming Typically, one attacker has their legs open while there’s another attacker with forceps and a vacuum. That attacker with the vacuum is not attached to the child.
Lefties have zero convictions or morals. They have no conscience.
Their basic premise is end justifies the means.
the child in the womb is the attacker in this case
@@therealgrimreaper68how?
Medicaid covers over 1/4 of the country? Wow that needs to be cut drastically
It's quite common for families with younger children to qualify, even in two-parent households, because they're young enough they haven't moved up in their career yet, and two kids means doubling the number of people, increasing the income limit.
Moral of the story: If you don't want to have kids, keep your legs together.
Thought for the ground news ad you were going to say "you could be ugly and stupid! Don't be stupid. Get ground news" 😂
I feel like people have been tricked that thinking something is "care" because youre in a sanitized room with white lights in a gown
They think of it as "care", because then they don't have to feel bad about having it done. They choose their desired result first, then choose their beliefs, and the definitions of words, to fit that result.
Can you imagine being this lady’s child and someday coming to learn that she was so traumatized that she couldn’t kill you that she made it her life’s mission to kill people like you. But she “loves” you.
Not just "people like you". Its literally everyone.
I've seen their kids in college. Unfortunately they seem to latch on to the freedom to choose mentality and even make abortion jokes. They don't see the hypocrisy.
And then there's Shelley Lynn Thornton, who had to find out that her biological mother *went to the Supreme Court* to fight for the right to kill her. But she survived because the legal system is slow.
She should turn that on herself. Win-win.
Ok OP, that made me feel really sad.
We can talk shit about her being a bad mother and this will bite her eventually…. But finding out o that your mother did everything she could to prevent the reality she faced having you, her child?
It’s one thing to be sad that you had to have the baby. It’s another to actively abort other babies after that.
She said she loved the kid. I don’t think she knows what love is. She can’t love them if she didn’t think the missed abortion was a blessing in disguise.
What do we want?
Personal accountability!
When do we want it?!
Since the beginning of time, but I'll settle for right the heck now as second best.
@@CowCommando When do we get it? At the end of life in heaven or hell. I imagine most will when it's too late and in the latter
Its also disturbing how cheerful these women talk about killing an unborn human.
I have never heard anyone say that their mother got an abortion and that they were happy she did.
Have you tried a ouija board ?
@@RileyByrdFlockI will admit that I had not considered that particular demographic.
I have, upon your suggestion, begun the process of obtaining the services if a qualified medium who has experience using a 'spirit board'.
I'll update with results ASAP.
Very funny, if technically true, unless your refering to their potential sibling? But yeah, if someone is as aborted, they wouldn't be feeling anything, assuming it was in a time frame that it could be referred to as such
People have said that, when their mother had to abort a pregnancy before them so that they could exist
Yay, more Debunkers!!!
So if hypothetically abortion was a constitutional right. And it’s wrong of the government to not finance it. When will the federal government start paying for our guns? Not buying AR-15s for the citizens disproportionately affects poor Americans in stopping them from exercising constitutional rights.
"The surpeme court granted people this right."
It's an oldie but I'm going to point out the wording.
The supreme court, those guys that said Dredd Scott wasn’t a citizen and his rights weren’t recognized.
@@woodrowcall3158it's literally the exact same logic for why they said fetuses don't have any rights either
@@woodrowcall3158"I'm a man!"
"Nah, I don't think so"
yes.. and I support that right... I don't support us having to pay for another person to exercise their rights though... but I would like the option to, I would donate to an abortion charity a lot happier than I pay taxes that pay for it.
@@notusingmyname4791 Murder, subsidized by the state: *unsurprised soyjack*
Murder, privately funded:
*wowzers soyjack*
It is against the law to hire someone to murder your spouse but it is legal to hire someone to murder your baby before it's born?
“I don’t want to have to pay for the consequences of my actions.” Is the real meaning of this argument.
“Taxpayers aren’t funding an abortion unless it’s rape, incest or giving birth is a serious threat to the mother” Yep seems like a wrap to me lads
As it should. If women didn't want babies; then they should stop having sex.
@@trenchtierstudios554get this man a *true*
@@trenchtierstudios554did you read the same comment as me ? Clearly not if you come out with that
I always find the rape part weird, if the attacker already had a kid we wouldnt give a 3 year old the death penalty because theyre related to a criminal so it seems morally the same as any other elective abortion
@jeice13 I get where you're coming from with this view. However, a big part of this is actions and consequences. People consent to sex and, therefore, consent to the possibility that pregnancy can occur. When someone is raped, the victim didn't consent to the action, and so they don't consent to the consequence. Thus, it's a means to prevent unjust burdens on the victim (i.e. pregnancy and raising the child), unless the victim chooses to accept those consequences. Like I said tho, I can understand your reasoning for why it's wrong/immoral.
The leading cause for abortion is a single one - people having irresponsible sex. If Abortion was made illegal nationwide, men and women in the US would stop sleeping around or practice their hook ups more safely and actually have babies only if said babies are wanted. So in other words, banning abortion would be good for society and would promote two parent households.
If you look at surveys by demographic, the demographic with the highest rate of abortion uses birth control methods that are unreliable at a much higher rate than demographics with low rates of abortion.
@@billyparker5974 Why not legalize slavery and killing poor people then?Those have the same effect of alleviating poverty.
Allowing something immoral as a solution is not a solution
@@billyparker5974you are making some wild assertions that aren't supported by evidence
@@scroogemcduckismyspiritanimal so you're saying rape isn't real?
@@billyparker5974 I was referring to the US, not other countries. Although a terrible occurrence I doubt r*pe cases are as rampant in the US as the cases of consensual casual sex leading to pregnancy. This is why there should exceptions where abortion should be allowed under extreme circumstances. I'm just disappointed at people that are often irresponsible with their decision making of who to lay with then rush to abort.
“Sorry, but the human sacrifices will stop” ~ Hernan Cortes & Pro-life chads
Why don't they just straight up say, "Moloch demands more sacrifice," and have done with it?
Because, as Nietzsche has a reputation for complaining, our culture is still parasitizing off the fumes of a now defunct Christian system. He knew what comes with saying there's no God who gives human beings value for being human. Those who wave off his point will have to find out the hard way, if they have enough brains to figure it out at all.
Noticed that at no time did they reference the reason they needed the abortion: an inability to close their legs...
“I love my kid, but I wish I had been able to murder him in the womb” is certainly a take
Moloch gotta get his.
Perfect timing, I needed this.
Simultaneously, I dread watching this, cuz I'd only be able to think of how "Tax Payer Funding" is already the norm in here in Canada, and people would go banshee if funding was reduced.
Today, Trudeau and Jagmeet celebrated "International Safe Abortion day" with promises to "increase access to abortion services for all no matter where they live or the size of their paycheque."
Freaking circus, like abortions until birth, "free of charge", nationwide wasn't already enough.
🤦♂
Canada is an entirely communist country. Even all of Europe is better. Hell, I'd argue that even China is better, or at least on the same level.
Abortions in Canada are available from conception to 120 years of age, at this point.
Canada wont be able to fund the next world war because they spent all their money on abortions.
@@seg162accurate.
Hey, at least they are even handed about it i suppose...
How can people be so deaf to the word adoption
It makes more sense if you think of them as literally a death cult. In the ancient world, there were "gods" that people would sacrifice their children to by killing them in horrific ways. The demons behind those "gods" are still around.
They have an ideology that doesn't believe that choices should have consequences. It's why they care more about abortion than promoting effective contraception use. You often see it in the way they talk about money. They don't think they should be "punished" for their life choices by having less money to spend on things.
@@Br3ttM Yeah, that's true.
The fact that my state requires people to pay for abortions is just sickening.
COME BACK THE DEBUNKERS WE MISS YOU!!!
“Mommy?! I’m sorry you couldn’t kill me and had emotional trauma because of it.” - Innocent Failed Abortion
I love how these leftist talk about how the right is always obsessed with money and everything that they try to argue about ending the life of a human being is about money.
You're missing the forest for the trees. Leftists see the money as a necessary evil, and access and freedom and feeling good is their priority. Meanwhile they attack Conservatives for prioritizing money arguments over people.
Remember, Leftists are far more likely to be Feeling/ Sensing people on the Meyer's-Briggs chart while Conservatives are Judging/ Perceiving. A Leftist does what makes them feel good, no further thought nor logical equality is needed. (Kids in cages is a horribly evil idea, but it was okay when Obama did it and now with Biden because they don't call it that.) A conservative thinks through their position and stands by what makes sense for the masses. A MAGA bandwagon kool-aid drinker is just as feel good as a Leftist; feeling loyal to their worshipfullness is more important than logically reasoning their positions or arguing against anything Trump did unethically... like forcing Project Warpspeed on us.
It's not just about money. It's about having the freedom to pursue a career, education, or whatever goals one may have without being impeded by the burden of pregnancy. Without abortion rights, men and women can never be equal.
If getting pregnant gets in the way of your goals, then don't get pregnant. It's not that difficult
@@margaretschultz6209 Young people have sex, no amount of legislation is going to stop that. Birth control isn't 100 percent effective, and there will always be a chance it fails. As a result, women are expected to make significant lifestyle changes for the next 9 months, while men face no such repercussions for their involvement. As I said before, there is no gender equality without abortion rights.
@@friccinfrosty4677Boo fucking hoo. Don't want kids, don't have sex, or go get desexed.
They never mention getting pregnant is a personal choice that is completely and easily preventable.
Unless they were forced upon. However, to my knowledge, any law regarding abortion has a caviat for it and for good reason.
I'm so sick of this "muh poor people disproportionately affected".
You can earn $1200 in 2 weeks at a temp agency, and that's barely doing overtime!
And this idea that the rich can just take time off work, go travel to another place, and have a $1200 procedure is absurd.
They honestly might not be able to. Upper middle class people have a mortgage and property taxes to think about.
But you not having money _is totally just as stressful as someone who works 60 hours a week and owes hundreds of thousands,_ right???
$1200, so enough to cover rent? If you don't think rich people have an easier time traveling than poor people you're absolutely clueless to reality.
Considering the history of the US making abortion a state issue was the correct move that was long overdue
"Come back pro-life Trump, we miss you!" 😂
I miss a lot of things about 2020 Trump compared to today. 😒
Excellent point at 2:36. I honestly hadn't even thought of tax cuts for larger families. That's a great pro-family policy, and it's a shame that we never here any politicians talk about it.
Still would have to be written in a way that doesn't continue to incentivize single parent households and women to just have a continous stream of babies with multiple different men.
@@kaitb07 Something like "To qualify for the large family tax deduction, the age of the eldest biological child of two parties of opposing sexes must be verified to be at least equal to the duration of the marriage"
In Hungary, if a woman has a child before the age of 30, she's exempt from income tax for life.
I would say we should do something like that, but I also think nobody should have to pay income tax, so. . .
@Akanoyoru hmm. Cause there would have to be some exceptions like a spouse passes, etc. And accounting for a dead beat parent or a legitimate divorce, like one person beating the other, etc. Vs "irreconcilable differences" bs. I'm sure it's doable.
they don't want your family they want you to die that's why
Where do they get off demanding tax-payer funded abortion?
If you don't want a kid but can't afford an abortion then don't do the deed.... This is the age of no personal responsibility
Most people who get abortions didn't use birth control, or used it incorrectly. Using condoms at all, using the correct size when they do, and a few other things that are probably on instructions in the package they come in, would prevent almost every pregnancy that is terminated by abortion. As a bonus, it would also prevent a lot of STDs, some of which can't be removed by a visit to a clinic.
@@Br3ttM Eh, they just always have excuses for their laziness or relative stupidity. Either it's "too hard" to avoid a pregnancy, or they're "too poor" to avoid a pregnancy. God forbid someone tracks their SO's fertility cycle which allows you to know the lower chance periods, or be willing to spend $20 on a box of condoms that would allow you to bang, one day a month, for a whole month. Sure do love the idea that a portion of the money *stolen* from me every paycheck is going to some asshole's abortion while I have to try to be responsible and spend my own money to avoid it.
Agreed, however if it it's a case of not being given the choice, then abortion has to then be an option
This is a big one. We've got to stop the funding.
Imagine hearing your own mother say that she wishes she could’ve aborted you and is still upset that she tried too but couldn’t.
Debunkers are my favorite videos that you guys make. Their probably some of the harder content to make with all the extra research involved but I wanted to let you know the extra work doesn’t go unnoticed.
These videos are my life blood and give me strength as elixir would to the ill
The one thing about them that is easier is animation. If you notice there are only four moving parts at one time. Not to say research isn't difficult
It is not enough to simply not be an abortionist. One must be actively Anti-abortionist.
I started using the term "abortionist" years ago. I'm glad its now catching on.
Remember, we have to frame our arguments well so that fence-sitter normietards can't get caught up by commie word-games the left loves playing.
It's not "pro-choice" its "abortionist"
It's not "anti-gun" it's "anti-self defense"
See what you did there
Hey, they're not sociopaths, they're psychopaths.
...sociopaths know the difference between right and wrong.
You got your definition, right?
Sociopath don't know the difference, psychopath do
A society which does not believe in choices and personal responsibility and think consequences dont(or shouldn't) exist is not a society which will last long.
They talk about “internalized racism” when people call for things like personal responsibility or legal immigration, but when it comes to killing babies they’re all for it. Given its history, support for abortion is by far the biggest example of actual internalized racism.
I think you mean systemic, internalized is when the race hates themselves
It's the racism of low expectations that really applies to abortion. They think Black people can't be expected to use birth control at the rate White people do. A large percentage of Black Americans use "pulling out" as their main birth control, and it is very unreliable. They also use condoms more over pills or UIDs, in comparison to White Americans, and condoms have lower effectiveness due to user error (like wrong size).
If only it could be Reframed as the Larger their Population the MORE voice they would have....
How is hating babies racist?
@@solarshard3644 planned parenthood was founded to stop minorities from being born and overtaking whites
Maybe don't have sex if you can't deal with the consequences. What a concept.
I really appreciate the work you do generally, but in particular issues to do with Life. It's so important in our current culture.
The Debunkers drop fact with no BS!! Good thing they didn't catch the STUPID!!!
2:35 "Hyde amendment" ??!
He can't be getting away with this!!
It's almost like people should not be forced to pay for YOUR decisions to not use contraception and to have sex with random ass strangers or something. . .
The idea behind this appears to be that if as a society we cover the cost early, we won’t have to carry the cost of a bunch of bums later
@@RileyByrdFlock Very strange logic, if you ask me, though. It seems we're covering the cost of people acting like bums, and then getting surprised when they see that as an incentive!
The Return of the Debunkers. Yay.
I miss the Strawman segment. Seamus, please bring them back.
Vox main problem is they start certain their position is right and whine when somebody disagree.
That's because they are paid to push a position.
There's that.... And they support the murder of children. That's my big problem with them.
I noticed their political videos are never "here's our position and here's why it's correct", they're "here's our 100% correct position we won't even bother proving, here's how to achieve that"
The scariest part of all this is having to pay the consequences for living in a country where 60 million babies are murdered. God may not be so merciful much longer.
"Unfortunately, I couldn't have an abortion. I love my child, but me me me me me, my feelings are more important than the *literal life of my child* "
I don't know how these people sleep at night
They lie and gaslight themselves into thinking a life is not a life, and a human is not a human. The gaslighting is pretty heavy, actually. And they don't even need to lie about basic biology and gaslight because there are plenty of pro-aborts that don't deny basic biological principles of life and reproduction, acknowledging the reality of abortion yet still support it. *That* is scarier and even more twisted, then if you ask how *they* sleep at night? I could not tell you...
10:30 this moment is wild; and I am sure she has said this to her kid when she is mad with him, these people are disgusting and do not want to have babies because they want to still be disgusting without responsability of another human. I wish I could say personally to that kid "you deserved to be born no matter what your mother has said, do not listen to her and you will live a better live than her"
What if she actually didn't want an abortion at first but couldn't find any other options? But what do I know?
Imagine getting mad at someone for actively fighting against killing babies.
My brother in law worked for Medicaid answering phones explaining why coverage was denied for certain procedures and passing on appeals. He told me that that Medicaid allows (pays for) 3 abortions per year. He also described a situation where a doctor called in asking why a patient's coverage was denied. The doctor then found out the woman on Medicaid had already had 5 abortions that year paid for by Medicaid and the sixth was denied. This was about 2019 when I heard this. My brother in law later quite as he could not emotionally handle this very frequent dialogue. Yes, Medicaid pays for many many abortions and does not follow the law limiting paying for it.
Because "The life/health of the mother" includes every excuse under the sun. Any inconvenience, no matter how trivial to anyone else, is traumatic to a woman who doesn't believe she should accept the consequences of her behavior.
3 abortions per year for one adult.....
damn... they should cover mandatory hysterectomies too.
@@freethebirds3578 so your argument is society shouldn't have to pay for the consequences of one's behavior? and you think forcing that person to squeeze out a kid, which forces us to have to deal with their offspring isn't forcing society to have to pay for the consequences of her behavior how?
I'd rather spend a one time fee than have to pay for increased prices due to what that kid would eventually steal, or constantly increased utility and taxes because I will eventually have to pay for that kid's jail time (let's face it, a person who would use abortion as birth control would be a very unfit and probably abusive parent, and people growing up under unfit adults become unfit adults themselves, so this is like a pre-emptive death penalty at a discount)
Forced sterilization for imbeciles (legal term) is still allowed by Supreme Court in 1920's or so. Most states have outlawed it in the last 20 years. Some have been forced to pay reparations. @@notusingmyname4791
@@notusingmyname4791 Murder an innocent human because you don't want to support them? You have completely ignored adoption. Many people, including me, would love to adopt but can't afford to because of scarcity.
What is your solution for welfare recipients and the homeless?
Ghoul.
God bless you Seamus! And the whole FreedomToons team!
Imagine hating your child so much that you essentially say, on a public video, that you wish you could've gotten the abortion.
that lady who couldn't pay for an abortion. "Hi son, I couldn't pay to have you killed, and I've regretted that every day of your life. I regret it so much, that I'm going to make sure no other woman has to suffer the way I suffered!" Son - "Thanks mom, you don't have to tell me again, you only tell me this two or three times every day..."
Extreme issues sometimes require extreme example so I must question the people that are for abortion that if I saw a pregnant cat and I kicked it in the stomach is that Healthcare or murder? If I saw a pregnant elephant walking by a harpoon into its stomach, is that health care or is that murder? What about a pregnant spider? If I step on the spider is that health care or is that murder? So what does that have to do with a baby human that has its own blood type its own DNA code its own fingerprint and soon its own personality? Somehow that's okay to kill that?
You can only murder a person, you can kill an animal. Murder is a humancentric word. A person is formed when an egg is fertilized so don't take this to mean I'm for infanticide.
Note how when someone murders a pregnant woman, it's called a "double homicide" but when she doesn't want the kid it suddenly doesn't matter.
It's insanity. You ask someone their opinion on abortion (ie murdering an unborn child in a horrific manner) and they'll say they're for it, but you suggest killing unborn puppies because you don't want to pay for them and I bet you that same person would thin you were a horrible monster. I can't with this world today.
@@purplefern6010 They value dogs more than human lives.
Well, I'd say that confidently, but the lot of these types probably have no problem considering the murder of a pregnant woman double homicide. I think they're just unthinking about the consistency of their moral codes.
The big difference is that in abortion several parties agree to it, where as the other is just animal abuse. Can't believe I had to explain that
There is even a good argument against abortion in case of rape that changed my mind: "Why murder someone when somebody else wronged you?"
If you believe that death is worse than suffering then there is no reason to support abortion in that case.
I'm okay with abortion after rape being legal, but I'd still encourage the mother to put the child up for adoption as a first alternative to keeping the rainbow child. For anyone unfamiliar, a rainbow baby is a baby born after a tragedy such as prior miscarriage or rape.
Rape is a violent assault. It just happens to have a chance to produce a child. A raped woman who IMMEDIATELY files a police report and goes to the hospital to confirm the assault should be allowed to have the pregnancy terminated. I am pro-life, but this is impregnation by force through an illegal, violent, and monstrous act. This is not consensual. It is not life conceived through love or ignorance. Then the woman has 24 hours to take the 'morning after' pill. If she doesn't, we go full term, and I applaud the determination. I understand that it is still a life, but one that was never meant to be, due to the violence. If the raped woman fears a pregnancy, take the pill IMMEDIATELY. Also, death penalty for violent, proven rapists.
Good point. Add to that, that many abortion procedures are done after the baby can feel pain. So the baby is killed in ways that are tantamount to torture.
I can't see two comments by the way. The only comment I see when writing this is CowCommando's.
If you others want it to be seen you'll have to re-write it and use very heavy innuendos to not get wiped.
In Sweet Home Alabama the state legislature did just that. The only legal exception is to protect the life of the mother. All other reasons will get the "provider" tossed in prison and sued into oblivion. One down, 49 more to go...
We really need to remove all tax payer funded entitlement spending.
How about this. I don't want my money going to someone else's medical bills. Simple