Korone Finally Found a Way to Talk Without Her Accent, but Then a Boss Battle Appears [Hololive]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ต.ค. 2024
- Much like how Subaru can change her voice while talking on the phone, Korone also found a hack to speak without an accent.
For those unfamiliar with Japanese, it might be difficult to hear Korone's unique accent. Essentially, her pronunciation and intonation is all over the place, and she tends to omit a lot of syllables when talking.
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Korone: "I have an accent when I speak Japanese"
Overseas viewers who can't understand a word of Japanese: "Hmm, yes..."
I recognize it even though I speak no Japanese, but it's more recognizable when she speaks English
Edit: Messed up and thought Japanese was English I guess
@@skinwalker69420 you speak no English? Are you sure you didn't mean Japanese?
@@skinwalker69420 What in the world did i even read lol
@@kenshiku I meant Japanese when I said I recognize it even though I speak no English
@@hyliasknight I did
That robotic voice is adorable, everything she does is adorable
Literally everything she does
You couldn't have said it better.
Even when she chop off our yubis
Korone's existence is adorable
KORONE IS THE DEFINITION OF ADORABLE
"Corporate needs to to find the difference between this voice and this voice"
Me: "They're the same voice."
Right? Where's the accent?
Right. Maybe it's just me, but I don't hear any difference. It reminds me when they were trying to teach me all the different intonations in mandarin, and I just literally could not hear it at all.
@@someguycalledcerberus9805 thats exactly what this is. japanese isnt a tonal language, but unlike in english where an accent is defined by where you stress words, japanese accents put different tones on different parts of words. if you dont pay close attention you wont hear a difference
@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 it's a tonal thing. Korone doesn't use high and low pitches at the same time as most. You won't notice it if you only speak English
@@tysonfontanez its also very VERY difficult to hear japanese accents if you dont speak the language
She is cuteness that is beyond this earth.
Her cuteness is beyond grammar as well
I'm from Mars,im simping for him
Just for you to know she become our national dog in Mars
💯 agree
Approve
well she IS the earth, after all
Hagen Dazsu. Why is that the most cutest thing I ever heard Korone say.
hotate
you should see her say ETHAN when watching the RE8 trailer
You should heard her say "FIRE" while playing metal slug
Ekum-bokum
@@yunchunsa tetaho
Remember, Japanese accents are normally "fu↗ra↘tto".
I see you're a man of dōgen as well
Ah, yes, "who wants to see some cool kanji?"
Yessss oh my god xD
*look of confusion, especially from the kansai kid*
Naruhodone... does not harudono.
"Korone"
"Talk without accent"
Pain peko.
Also, Merry Christmas apparently everyone!
June 26 is Christmas now. I don't think we have a choice.
@@KlausWulfenbach Its always Chrismas when Korone is streaming.
Merry Christmas
It's an Australian Christmas
Merry Christmas 😟❤️
Korone without her accent is such a depressing thought
You would think so, but her previous voice was incredibly soothing too.
Bro I can't even differentiate her accent from normal Japanese accent
Happy depressing thoughts
@@CougheePls its really cool i think, and i want to learn it
@@CougheePls i think it’s different from what is usually thought of as an accent, it’s more on which syllables are stressed/more pronounced compared to others.
0:51 this laugh gives me life.
Don't give up man. I know life is sometimes difficult but you'll get through. Life is short and is only matter of time to live happy.
"speed up"
The laugh of when she thinks something she did herself is funny is one of the sweetest sounds I've ever heard.
Nagito's laugh takes my life
I've never thought I'd see myself die of cuteness just by seeing someone say Haagen Dazs but here we are
Who woulda thunk?
I love how Korone does the Japanese equivalent of constantly speaking in Iambic Pentameter
Dogen: "Just say it flat"
c o r r e c t
Fla↗️ tto↘️
Fu ra↗️ to
Nihongo jouzu
Eyyy same pfp. I actually thought I commented before but I just forgot until I saw your username lol.
I am so grateful to Korone's grandma for this spectacularly adorable doggo accent.
Have you heard of okayu's voice clip of her talking with her grandma?
Thanks holograndma!
@@ira312 I can't recall… was it one of the ones posted to Twitter?
Our girl was inputting Street Fighter combos to say the name of an ice cream company...
SCOOPS! HAAGEN DAZS! CURLEH MOUSTACHE!
WE JUST GOT A REAL MATCH
The arrows are important! Japanese pays more attention to tone than English does (though, I believe, not as much as mandarin Chinese does?)
Notice that a rising arrow follows roughly with Korone's tone rising slightly, as a falling arrow follows a falling tone, and the upright and downward-facing arrows show very high and low tones.
If you're monolingual speaking English, it'll be really hard to pick up, but a good analogy to help you see...
When you make a statement, at the end of your sentence typically your tone drops down. But when you ask a question? The tone of the last word rises. "The tone of the last word rises?" Pay close attention to the way you read those sentences.
@@ferociousfeind8538 Japanese is concerned with 'pitch accent' as opposed to tone. (I have no idea what the difference is, I've just had people explain this to me many times)
@@Blah64 Chinese has a 3 + 1 (unvoiced) pitch system with varying patterns between each pitch class. Japanese is a dual pitch system, high and low, and has 2 superclass variations, heiban and kifuku. Kifuku is subdivided into 3 classes, atamadaka, odaka, and nakadaka. So, as Korone talks about Haagen-Dazs, she defaults to korone pitch, which is sorta like odaka... but really... wavy. Kansai natives tend to do this inflection at the end of words, though not as wildly. Also, they do alot more atamadaka instead of heiban.
Like, arigatou is normally nakadaka with pitch drop on 'ri' but Kansai add a high pitch on u or, even, to. Korone does similar but... with everything... like minna, hotate, and orayo.
I can't imagine Haagen Dazs marketing director has a stable job with all this free ad.
Korone: "If I talk like a soulless robot I won't have an accent."
Japanese government: "She knows! SHUT IT DOWN!"
We appreciate trying to display the accent in subtitles.
I fully admit it might be due to me being part of the overseas bros, but I straight up cannot tell the difference. If anything, it sounds more like she's trying to be Siri.
It can be hard for English speakers because English accents generally differ due to pronunciation, whereas Korone’s accent is due to different intonation
It's the pitch of each syllable that's different. English doesn't use pitch for specific words like that, but Japanese does.
This is probably the same case with Japan so I'm gonna use it as an example.
In my language, there's a word called "bukas"
Bu-kas = Tomorrow
Buk-as = Open
The intonation differs, and so the meaning of the word changes, if you say "bu-kas buk-as 'yon" that would translate to "tomorrow it is open"
Korone puts stress on every syllable, in a language where intonation matters per syllable, that would totally sound weird for native speakers.
here is more example of it th-cam.com/video/1RKWcCyD7GI/w-d-xo.html
Taken from the top comment in that video
"If ppl dont really get Jp accents, english is a stressed language while Japanese is a pitched accent. Stressed languages stress sections of words for eg. ‘tomorrow’, to - MO - rrow. You’re normally supposed to stress the ‘Mo’ in tomorrow. Different accents work by stressing sections in words differently, either stronger in the case of stronger accents and opposite in the case of weaker ones. Japanese doesnt stress different sections of words but changes pitch depending on the section of the word u pronounce, in this clip, they say ノドボトケ or nodobotoke. U saw the pitch u speak the word with in the sub titles but the ‘normal’ Japanese accent is alittle different, alittle bit more flat than the accent Korone speaks with, Korone changes pitch on nearly every character she says whilst Shion speaks with the more universal Japanese accent. Tip for if u want to learn Japanese, learn to speak with a pitched accent rather than a stressed one, it should help pronunciation and annunciation and will definitely make u sound wayy more natural wen speaking. Thats often why u can notice wen a foreigner is speaking Japanese compared to an actual Japanese person, a lot of foreigners speak Japanese with a stressed accent as opposed to a pitched accent where instead of pitching sections of words they stress them and to me, it never sounds natural. Idk why i wrote a paragraph and if u read this than sorry"
I can tell after 4 years of Japanese study, and that's in part because I have a hard time understanding her sometimes and the mecha Korone I understood perfectly.
Korone's accent is almost iconic, like Sean Connery and his Scottish accent. A world without Korone's accent would be a much sadder place.
Korone: "Häagen-Dazs"
After that: "DeGIta!!"
Never change Korone, please be this cute always...
is it just me or does her robot/accentless voice have big ara ara energy.
Well, it does sound more mature
Bonk
To think Korone as ara ara onee-san is a weird thought.
@@huntergoth No😏
I do and I'M HERE FOR IT
I gotta say
The "robot" Korone voice unleashes something in me that I didn't know I had
_or _*_wanted_*
Same
I’m so glad for the translation channels so I can enjoy all these moments without understanding a bit of Japanese 😂
Every thing korone does is adorable.
Also, Merry Christmas everyone!
Your pfp....
Sauce?
What do you mean Christmas, I thought it was Easter.
Edit: Oh my mistake it's valentines day.
@@Limbambo he says it bc the BGM lol
@@gaelortega7637 joke flew over your head
Even while murdering people in DbD
Remember long time ago during the SMOK collab,Korone having hard time said "Haagen daaz" without an accent
I’ve been in the hole so long I can actually hear Korones accent now
Korone with accent: Cute af doggo
Korone without accent: ara ara onee chan weather reporter
//*Visible confusion*
also haagen dazs marketing director: holy moly... we have to make her our brand ambassador now!
we want and not want this at the same time
She sounds like the sponsor message at the beginning of anime episodes
I’ve been viewing too many memes lately. When Korone kept going “haa- haa- haa-“ my brain kept expecting the video to cut away to a max volume HAA CHAMA CHAMAAA
Shinpachi's anee-ue is having a field day with this one.
put the burnt remains of an egg besides it and you'll have the whole package
She needs to talk like this with Okayo, out of the blue, no warning.
I love Korone's voice and way of talking. I've never used something like Siri or Alexa, but if it was Mecha-Korone... I might. I probably would.
I don't know why it never clicked for me before, but jp holomem saying "okay" or "yeah!" is the same thing as those of us who can't speak Japanese saying "hai" or "yosh!".
Like, it could be any word really, but isn't it neat that certain words just kinda float in that odd area of being used frequently by both those who know a language, and by those who hear the word a couple times and adopt it into their speech? I find it really cool
Well, it depends. With "yeah", I would agree.
"Okay", however, is in widespread use in Japan anyway, so I'd rather consider that a loanword. Just like "umami" or "emoji" in English.
I mean, "OK" has been incorporated into a huge variety of Languages as a loan word, so that one isn't much of one
Honestly this. I consume so much japanese media that subconciously Ive started exclaiming in the language. Just the other night I almost dropped something and yelled "nai!" And I was most startled by that.
The word nai isnt really a proper exclamation, it means "not", but I hear so many japanese speakers use it as a stand in for "no" (maybe its slang) that it just slipped out from hearing it so much.
I guess it goes both ways!
Korone works so hard to be an even better entertainer. We don't deserve her.
Everybody gangsta until korone speaks *_"Kono bangumi wa goran no suponsaa no teikyou de okuri shimasu"_* language
Tbh, her english when she attended Calli's birthday, clearly sounds like a Voice Mail.. 😂
the info in the description and the arrows in the subbing are so very helpful, thank you for that and ofc this video
I love July Christmas Korone.
I literally can't tell how any of those Haagen Dazs's are different :v
Different "accents" -> "voice tones"
If I spell right
WOAH! Doggo sounds like a damn newscaster!
ワンちゃんの標準語は素晴らしい！ 凄く上手！
Korone without her accent just isn't as good as with her accent.
But it's pretty good in its own way.
Adorable doggo
Reminds me of pewdiepie saying negligible
JP Intonation is a difficult thing to wrap my head around.
Why does everyone seem so determined for korone not to speak with her accent?
I don't want to exist in the timeline where korone doesn't have an accent.
JP being prescriptivist
They’re not, it’s just funny to mention her accent like how some poke fun at Miko, Luna and Haachama’s Japanese for being the third best Japanese speaker in Hololive EN.
@@N40AX
What?
@@Squidward-jv7go Japanese people claiming what is a valid accent and the speakers going out of their way to conceal their accent like Okayu or Noel.
I've watched almost nothing of Noel, but IIRC Okayu's native accent is a Tohoku one (after she outed herself by talking about food), which is to Japan as a Mississippi/Gulf Coast drawl is to the USA: associated with uneducated hicks. Korone's accent seems like a complete mishmash, but I'm not really that familiar with JP regional accents.
One of the best thumbnails I've seen, honestly.
Every time I have to say it, all I can think of is Yipes’ “SCOOPS! SCOOPS! HAAGEN DAZS!”
Me being amused by her cuteness and then realising that its all the same accent to my ears
I thought it was gonna be like that time she perfectly said "Ethan"
But this works too!
Everything she does is so adorable bruh i can now drink my medicine peacefully
Her weather voice is pretty damn good, even though it isn't her trademark accent.
This Christmas music should become the main theme for every stream, we don't care if it's May, July, September or December 26th.
I don’t understand never knew she has an accent. So precious
Her accent is adorable. I can't imagine Korone without it
Korone: Häagen-Dazs
Chat: Hot dogs!?!?
FilthyFrank: "HOTTO DOGU!"
i keep imagining okayu saying outo
Lmao you got me with the buzzer at the end there
Considering that Haagen Daz is a made-up word by New Yorkers trying to sound Swedish, I think it's *THOROUGHLY* appropriate that Ko'one butchers the pronunciation.
This video and another clip was what helped me finally understand Korone's accent, great stuff. And the funny thing is that it does seem to have a bit of a parallel with the "musicality" of American southern accents. So like, "That's what I thought" with a southern drawl is more like " thay-at's (/ \) wut (_) ah (_) tha-owt (/ \)". Up and down, like Korone.
Korone's Robotic weather announcer voice is uh...a bit of a dangerous weapon to wield.
Love how she can't help but nod when she says a downward inflection
Got to appreciate that energy.
I love your translation. It worked really well in getting the meaning across. 😁👍
Merry Christmas boys
Few things are more entertaining than watching chat suddenly speed up
Korone is so cute, that I am not even mad she played jingle bells as her bgm in the middle of July xD
"Ok."
- Haagen Dogzu
Everyone is talking about korone, but I can't take my eyes off the okayu plush on her window sill. What a face 😂
Now we need a Mechorone fanart.
I love that she put it through JAPANESE Google translate
So she just got a Japanese pronunciation
I would pay so much money for a Korone virtual assistant
Silly me was expecting a literal boss battle to suddenly appear in a game that was running in the background or something before she could speak without the accent.
To be fair to her, the 2nd letter of Häagen-Dazs has an accent on it :p
I’ll memorize every kanji in existence before I get around to giving a shit about the tonal quality of my spoken Japanese. That’s like….the final hurdle of learning Japanese when you’re just bored and have nothing left to do.
Though most foreign people who don’t understand Japanese can’t tell, there are certain differences in how Japanese people speak depending on where they live, just like in every country. It’s easier to pick up on the more you listen to different people from different areas speak.
MECHA KORONE: INITIATE "ARA-ARA"
Just noticed the Child's Play blu-ray in the background. Kek
she said that staying with her granny (half year after started korone stream) making her picking up accents, but she's already have accents before that (go watch her pre-debut talk playing splatoon)
Korone playing Christmas music earlier than Amercian retail stores.
It's funny how she worries about mispronouncing a word that all Japanese people alreaedy mispronounce by default lol
I can't tell pitch difference. I can tell that she has a cute voice and it makes me happy.
The robot voice gives me legendary late night-interview energy
robot is korone
accent is robot
etc etc forever
Korone bobbing her head while repeating after the Google Translate is too adorable
@ 0:40 now we witness another stage of korone's evolution...witness brothers and sisters Mecha koro-san (sfx: gachankkkkk!) hahaha
I mean. Everyone has an accent, so there is no talking without an accent, it is just a different one.
Like as an Ohioan, I don’t think of myself as having an accent, but I have a midwestern accent (think Mumei or someone like MatPat’s accent). To someone else, I have an accent.
Mecha Koro-san... ARTISTS GET ON IT
You can't blame her for saying it wrong when the computer told her to say it wrong
This needs to be in the Korone Experience hahaha
Korone is just to adorable for everything.
"I can talk without an accent if I just talk like a robot."
*[Proceeds to talk like a sultry actress in a make up commercial]*
Korone : *robotic voice
My mind : "goran no suponsaa no teikyou de okurishimasu"
I fucking need that okayu plushie in the background.
she found the street fighter inputs
Korone's old accent: "You couldn't live without your accent. Where did that bring you? Back to me"
Precious and adorable!
Who are the evil, Satan spawn that disliked this video? You truly have to be an evil being to dislike the biblical level of cuteness here.
i can totaly hear her saying the kono ban gumi wa thing