I got Yoimiya by mistake because I was bUiLdInG PiTy but now I'm really enjoying her and glad she's actually finding some use. She was amazing against the electro bird last abyss cycle.
It's great to see my girl Yoimiya preforming so well! People always dismiss her because of her low numbers but they always seem to forget just how quickly she attacks
I thought it's because she's single target, while her single target DPS has always been among the best, she'll take twice as long against 2 enemies. Of course it doesn't matter if it's 25 seconds vs 50 seconds, but if you're struggling at the 1:30min mark it does kinda matter.
@@felipepoffo those were all C6 R5, that wasn't C0 Yoimiya and C0 Yae against C2 Raiden, they wouldn't stand a chance against Raiden if it were C2's against C2's lol
@@starlitsong8456 not soon, they will and some stuff like artifacts or new character that will "buff" yoimiya before her rerun, just like how they add shenhe to "buff" ganyu before her rerun (despite ganyu doesn't need buff)
@@xienRawat yunjin wasn't released at the same patch as yoimiya, their nature is to release dedicated support in the same patch. They might release another support for yoimiya on her rerun or adding new artifacts set
The fact that Yae is already close to Raiden in some situations is really good. She's just a sub dps and I didn't expect her to be comparable to Raiden who's one of the best DPS characters at C3 already
This was surprisingly close! I love Yae but I honestly expected her to look really bad. I’m pleasantly surprised to see her perform well against a known speed running champ like Raiden and a painfully underrated character like Yoimiya.
The closeness sort of highlights how the balance is closer than we think in general and the difference between 'good' and 'bad' barely even matters. You could probably throw a Lisa in for comparison and there would be Lisa mains noting that she did better than expected against the big 5 stars. Not intended to discount Yae here at all, but more-so highlighting the importance of 'play what you like' because in the end if it's 10 or 20 or even 30 seconds, it shouldn't matter. If those seconds matter, there's other problems that need to be addressed that would make a bigger difference than one character choice on one of your teams.
Keep in mind, Raiden needs C3 to do that, Yae needs C6 and also Raiden just refills everyones energy at the same time while nuking everything from existence
you also need to consider that Yae was at c6, Raiden really only needs c2 while she can just run Raiden national at c0, Yae is kind of disappointing at c0
The winner of this dps showcase is: Raiden The winner of best girl is: Yoimiya Edit: Seems like people think my comment is a debate section who is the best girl. You don't need to change the mind of other people in the internet, its just waste of time and energy.
I may be a bit biased but I assume like the last showdown, raiden will be the winner eternally even in non raiden focused showdowns cough cough xiao. Edit: raiden did win but I was surprised by yae, perhaps being the archons familiar has it’s perks.
@@danielvinceneo3556 yep. Raiden would be just as op if the beta raiden came though (for whales since c4 and c2 were switched and c4 kinda sucks) but many f2p’s/low spenders couldn’t save to get raiden broken so I’m glad they’d hanged it
omg I literally just opened my phone and I saw notification! I'm rooting for Yoimoya although I'm pretty sure she'll come at second and Raiden will be first, I'll watch the vid first tho
I will get Yoimiya on her rerun. I skipped when she came out. But now, the game is constantly getting filled up with enemies that like to run away from you instead of attacking. With Yoimiya I won't have to worry about them running away. 🤣
I managed to get yae c0 and her weapon. Although she may not be the best now, Im hoping she eventually gets her own artifact set and dendro electro reactions help her.
@@wibawaputra5411 he got his exclusive weapon in an event like literally his best in slot weapon (well, we already had Oathsworn eye for Yae but it's not on par with her other f2p options) and you know, the new domain for Geo Def scaling characters.
@@wibawaputra5411 alot of indirect buffs, gorou which is basically a 4 star support catererd to the geo def scaling characters, an artifact set and a signature weapon
@firdaus hassan I use 4pc. Thundersoother with 60:250 crit ratio. Do you think it is worth to keep farming the thundering fury/thundersoother domain to get better pieces or should I settle with my current one?
I pulled for Yoimiya even though the 4 star characters on her banner were underwhelming and that many people were saying that Raiden was a better character overall. I don't regret double crowning my girl Yoi till today.
I actually voted for Yoimiya so I am REALLY glad to see her here. Especially because I didn't think Keqing would really be even close to comparable to the other 2, and Yoimiya would provide a better metric or underdog in this case.
Fast foward back 6 months people are cursing about how Yoimiya sucks and if you think otherwise you are coping , comes back to to present, this is exactly what is happening to Yae Miko now.
@@ChiyoTachi Yoimiya never really sucked and while her artifacts arent great she always seemed fun to play. Its just she had the unlucky position of getting released after Hu Tao with a similar Playstyle (E infusion), but arguably more fun as even C0 Yoimiya can spam while for Hu Tao without C1 she's not that fun to play. The only reason a lot of people skipped her and called her bad was because she got compared to one of the best DPS characters till this day. However Miko doesn't feel fun to play in my honest opinion. She takes a lot of time to setup and the ult is easily missable. She looks pretty good on IWTL showcase but that's a C6 Miko where her towers actually do damage. Although I do hope in the future she gets a set that makes her a bit more fun to play like how Kokomi got one cuz I really like her Visual design.
@@slimshady3116 This game is full of meta slaves and degenerate smps that want everyone to play the game as optimal as possible, as if it matters. The game is already braindead easy like bro its a mobile game
16:25 Beidou instead of Xingqiu really kicks that team up a notch, especially because of the low dual target nature of the enemies you're fighting here. Yoimiya and Beidou work exceptionally well together as they cover each other's weaknesses quite well. I've found beidou can keep up with xingqiu's damage or even outshine him depending on what youre fighting , and in this case she wouldve had a leg up
@@havidikevidi personal opinion, c6 of all 5 stars drastically change their performance and might create unrealistic expectations. I feel a DPS showdown of c0 characters would be exponentially more usable and by a majority of the player base.
@@a2zisboo which part of it not being the point did you not understand? It wont create any unrealistic expectations because people arent blind and they are informed about the characters being c6r5. This channel is here to show MAX POTENTIAL. Not your f2p numbers, its not that hard to understand. You can find another channel for that.
TLDR: All of em deal so much dmg cuz theyre full whale capped anyways so don't feel bad if you're doing a significant amount of lesser dmg, enjoy the experiment and have fun. :)
Besides the remarkable performance of all the contenders, I think it’s worth reminding that Raiden and Yae can be also great sub-dps’s. They both require field-time but they will reward your team with AoE, off-field damage, energy generation and applying electro with 100% uptime. The only one pure main DPS is Yoimiya, moreover a Pyro DPS, and still she can compete with the 2 electro buddies only in few scenarios. Bonus point for Raiden: she is capable to offer the 90% of the potential shown in this video already at C3, probably 80% with EL R1.
considering the abyss enemies were all ones that are pyro resistant yoimiya being only a few seconds short means pyro weak ones she can easily do much better.
Great to see my favorite character Yoimiya! She's such an underrated character who still easily clears abyss for me and is so easy to build even for f2p players
IMO..(Raiden is must pull??) AFTER the CoCoGOAT(The Goat forever)... RAIDEN SHOGUN is the only 1 who can b DPS, Sub - DPS , Support so MVP here is fr is Raiden..
raiden is easily one of the best characters in GI when it comes to speed running content...high multipliers for her initial slash and easy to get buff for that initial slash and boom with quite large AOE and than w that C2 haha but ayaka c2/c4 and shenhe is good also for speed running content
@@Harsh1650 yep... i just think and want to share that raiden kit really suit this new abyss rotation...hehe...that is all...overall there are many good characters out there and also itto geo trio
I started genshin 1 month ago, and I have heard that c0 can act as a really good support, but the problem is I dont even have a main dps character, I am using physical kaeya as my dps now but idk if pulling for raiden will be beneficial for my account. I dont have enough primos to get c2 shogun. What should i do? Should I save primos for other dps characters or c0 raiden can act as dps?
I remember back when Yae being a playable character was just a rumor that some people were saying that she would would be the new ceiling of Eletro damage. But as we now know, that's not the case. Either way, it's impressive to see that she is competitive with Raiden.
Well there were lots of rumors going around that time tho, and she was expected to be an on-field dps. According to the rumors, her kit wasnt like this, mihoyo got like 2 or 3 kits designed for her and one of them is to priortise na and charged attacks, that's why her na and ca were designed nicely. But dunno why they ended up choosing the last kit which is this totem one
Keep in mind that, it was Sukuna who said that and he did like 40 leaks in one pic and said that half are fake and half are real, so obviously Yae being electro dps ceiling was fake to me
OMG 3 of my most favorite characters in one Iwintolose video!!! So amazing! Ei is my number one and Yae or Ayato by design are already my number two meanwhile Ayaka or Yoimiya are tied for my number 3 followed by Kazuha who definitely takes that 4th (6th) place!! I do think Yae’s damage is good especially at C6 but I want her bugs to be fixed especially against tracking wolf lord
Same I love raiden miko yoi all the same infact they are my Overworld team with kokomi (I don't like kokomi that much but gotta agree she is the walking statue of the seven)
@IWinToLose Gaming it would be interesting to see how you get your "damage potential" numbers. Beside depending on team / buffs / rotations - I've tried maximizing the damage formula and arrived at 5 coupled quadratic equations (that's not including HP or DEF scaling chars or similar) which look like not so much fun to solve so I stopped. I put them into Mathematica and my PC ran out of memory .. soo uh. Did you solve those or how do you get those "potential" percentages?
I believe he has a video about it on how to calculate damage potentials. It's an early video of his so ya gotta scroll down a bit on his channel. edit: heres the link of his vid th-cam.com/video/TWGVuQcR3no/w-d-xo.html
you sound like your lying bro, genshin related maths is not that complicated,. It's usually just a combination of addition and multiplication. It includes their weapon, artifact set, artifact substats and highest dps related comp.
That's actually one thing I really like about her but it takes so long to cast her elemental skills I hope we can instant cast her totems in a triangle shape around Yae but still activating the passive of Yaes weapon
@@jesuispasvalid8392 yes but it does barely any damage, and it's reactive damage rather than active damage so that is more useful for reactions like Superconduct etc. It's also
I kinda think adding Beidou might help Yoimiya and doesn't seem unfair. Her ability to drive Beidou seems like a selling point for her given Raiden cannot. I'm aware it's not a Beidou but it's not like Kazuha and Sara do no damage either. It's just an additional factor that the dogs are weak to electro and Yoimiya is up against 2 electro as well while not using one of her best teammates who is also electro.
Me with C0 R5 Catch Raiden able to do salad chopping in one shot....... welp no need constellation then remember when someone said Raiden is shit on debut, and now straight up comparing her to *cough Xiao *cough is not fair
you should consider doing Childe's fight comparison also because Childe's fight is one of the situations where character with sustained dps is better than burst dps, this should be able to showcase a little bit more of Yae's capability
@@Harsh1650 both are c6 r5, both will be doing damage regardless because of their def ignore, the question is, who has better dps uptime between yae and raiden
I really wanted yoimiya when she came out and got her at c0 but really wish I pulled for her weapon as well 😭 so when thundering pulse gets a rerun I will get my hands on it but for now she works perfectly fine with r5 rust and clears my abyss runs :3
Its things like this that make me ignore those DPS junkies that judge characters before even playing them. Yoimiya and Raiden both had rocky releases, now look at them go now
the electro support Raiden wins another dps showdown who would have guessed.. Raiden C2 is the best character in the game together with Benny and Kazuha without a doubt. Support character who beats pretty much every dps character even in terms of damage by her own.
This just furthers my thinking that most Inazuma characters are built with coop in mind, their kit is somewhat questionable and caused controversy when talking about singleplayer uses[oneshot teams, Spiral Abyss and etc.] but when used in coop the downsides of their kit gets immediately compensated when another player is on field at the same time that being coop mode
@@souravbiswas2510I don't usually use zhongli with her and my experience with yae has been completely fine. imo it's great to have zhongli with her but not entirely a must
Keep in mind these characters are all C6. Yoimiya doesn't get much better with constellations. In fact she should be a better dps at C0 and with a 4* weapon than Raiden and Yae.
i regret pulling for Yae, i expected more. I already have great DPS characters like Eula, Ganyu and Hu Tao, so i currently have a character that is great for overworld content, but doesnt help much in my abyss teams. I'm a Welkin only player, so they are all C0.
Could you do a subdps showdown with yae, albedo and fischl/any others just to show how yae can keep up with them. Edit:: I completely forgot that his yae was c6 lol
@@Vizible21 but she is , im not f2p and i can easily pull Yae miko, but among c0 yae and fischl i think fischl is better(only for f2ps) of course for c6 yae will win.
Regardless of the characters constellations, there is still the max stats that each character gets via level up front each level ascension as well. We found out the hard way when we had one of the characters dropping back levels, and not even realizing that his stats stopped increasing after a little while of it occurring. The characters stats also might not be technically correct as well, as there is stats that can not get acquired through level up. We definitely found this information out about the game while the rest the people playing it were doing their own independent actions in the game at the exact same time.
It would appear that the new region expects players to have their characters with the highest stats possible as well to have the highest artifacts possible to equip them as well. We have also been improving the artifacts that they have equipped almost every time as well. Then again we are refusing to rank up any more world ranks to see if it actually matters or not.
Remember about the disclaimers guys, these comparisons are fraught with flaws uncertainties and just variances in general. Not to mention these are RUNS and not MATH
As a whale i can't wait till yae gets her own set. It may push all these times up a bit. I will say yae at c6 is the afk queen. You really don't have to do anything but keep her alive and the turrets will clear everything. Shes made the transport mission even easier with her auto target.
I really enjoy Yae(been using a lot of Raiden/Yae since she was released), would've been cool to see a stab at 2.5 floor 12's second half(since I think that side is a little fairer to yoimiya), but overall a really cool comparison
I’m still secretly waiting for a buff on Yae Miko Super armor while dashing Hold skill would release a mini burst but 9 sec cd and no DoT obv and single target A bit higher NA scaling
The only thing I have to say Is about the first showcase...It's a bit unfair for me cause baal and yae had an elemental reaction(After using Benny), while yoimiya no
Well I started playing a few weeks after the yoimiya banner, didnt have enough primos to get yae Miko und won't have enough to get Raiden because I'm f2p... I don't really care about yae Miko but I really want yoimiya and Raiden... Guess I'll be saving up for a year....
Would really like to see an additional comparison with Yae vs Fischl in a sub dps role on logical teams that they'd be included in interchangeably. Fischl does less damage herself, but she takes very little field time and generates more energy for her team. Yae does more damage herself but is a worse battery and sucks up field time where her main dps team-mate would have potentially done better dps than Yae does. Which actually produces the faster clear and by how much? And that's the problem F2P or low spenders face with Yae. If she's not an impactful clear-time upgrade over Fischl, why not just keep using Fischl and save a lot of wishes for a 5 star weapon on your main dps or a new and potentially highly impactful future alternative. I think we're too hard on Yae and she probably would produce better times than Fischl, but I just don't know how much; to judge if Yae is worth it at all or completely a skip character for anyone unless they just really like Yae's character.
I always love watching your videos, especially the DPS showdowns like this one, but my thumbs up is awarded mostly because of your "the thiccest thing in Genshin Impact" comment. 😂😂😂😂😂 Anyways, great content as always!
Sad that Raiden does better damage than Yae while providing a lot more support for teams. Yae just seems so useless to me right now compared to others.
Well, Raiden has her signature artifacts, while Yae is stuck with mix sets. Yae is also a ranged character, which explains why her timing is so similar to Yoimiya. Raiden being melee warrants her to have more damage as mihoyo usually gives better scaling to melee characters, and the reason why Hu Tao outdps Yoimiya. Not to mention Yae does more off field damage while Raiden is mostly on field, which is another reason to reduce Yaes dps ceiling.
@@hubertbong2747 How would a dedicated artifact set change the fact that Raiden supports with her kit while doing decent damage at C0 and great damage at C2? Yae takes forever to set the sub dps and doesn't snapshot she is a sub dps that wants to stay on field and requires a ungodly amount of energy to burst, her kit is missing something and I don't see how a set would change that, she can deal more damage with a dedicated set but Yae damage isn't the problem the real problem is how weird she is. "sub dps" with a nuke on a high energy cost with a weird EM (passive specially being electro) and dealing better damage on field due to not being able to snapshot and taking almost 3 seconds to set up the first part of her rotation... She is Xinyan with better multipliers...
@@drekhunter Ah yes, Yae Miko is definitely Xinyan with better multipliers. I mean look at her, she is a physical support dps with split scaling and shielding capabilities. Oh wait...
@@nathanaelpierre9439 Yae the sub dps with 2 secs setup time and even longer for a rotation, a passive that encourages EM and requiring field time to deal max damage with the deployables. She contradict herself so stop trying to twist my example to cope with the fact that Yae full potential can't be achieved just like Xinyan due to the fact that both kits point in opposite directions. They both need dedicated slots to cover flaws, Xinyan is a physical dps but being pyro doesn't have a easy way to supperconduct, while Yae requires a battery while being electro you have to VV swirl or get EM there somehow. If you go full dps Xinyan forget about the shield same for Yae forget about being off field even as a "sub dps". Both as supports get overshadowed by units that are easier to obtain or set up. Clunky elemental skill. Constelations that solve problems that shouldn't have existed in the first place and focusing on one part of the kit. In Xinyan defense she is a 4* and the constelations try to work with her elemental and burst.
Damn looks like all this crapping on Yae by the community really left a mark…Yae beat all the odds going up against two on field DPS’. She absolutely kept up with the two, yet y’all are just commenting about Yoimiya’s impressive damage? (To be clear not hating on Yoimiya or the people celebrating her, bc she deserves it! I just wanted to point out that just as Yoimiya was treated unfairly, so was Yae and peoples unfair treatment of her shows in this video once more)
@@batch9518 She totally is and again, my intent was not to hate on her. She deserves all the love🥰! It’s just that Yae endured the same treatment so yeah…
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I got Yoimiya by mistake because I was bUiLdInG PiTy but now I'm really enjoying her and glad she's actually finding some use. She was amazing against the electro bird last abyss cycle.
she destroy wolf, wolf lord, specter, electro bird basically anything that keep running away from melle char
@@lullabylullaby205 not to mention that fckn hydro bird
Same m8 same i do love using her she may not be full on meta but is fun as hell
I wanted sayu and by mistake i got her too but sadly at that time I didn't get sayu also
i really want her now, i didn't pull for her before because people are saying she's bad and stuff.
It's great to see my girl Yoimiya preforming so well! People always dismiss her because of her low numbers but they always seem to forget just how quickly she attacks
Low damage numbers? A f2p yoimiya can hit 50-60k each shot. Idk what low damage numbers you’ve seen bro lol
@@joeltoomer3332 6k, it’s not terrible though
I thought it's because she's single target, while her single target DPS has always been among the best, she'll take twice as long against 2 enemies. Of course it doesn't matter if it's 25 seconds vs 50 seconds, but if you're struggling at the 1:30min mark it does kinda matter.
@@jennychen7923 yeah people complain abt her bc shes singletarget + genshins aiming system sucks, i havent seen anyone complain abt her dmg at all
low?????.... numbers??
"Yae Miko and Raiden work together"
- Raiden one shots everything
C2 for sure
@@felipepoffo those were all C6 R5, that wasn't C0 Yoimiya and C0 Yae against C2 Raiden, they wouldn't stand a chance against Raiden if it were C2's against C2's lol
She really meant it when she said "Torn To Oblivion"
@@DangoShogun as I said: C2 and that's it
@@DangoShogun True but also keep in mind that Yoi doesn’t scale as well with constellations. Obviously you can’t say the same for Yae
Yoimiyaaa, glad she's in this video. I love herr
Do you think yoimiya is getting a rerun soon
@@starlitsong8456 im pretty sure its not soon but it is speculated
@@starlitsong8456 not soon, they will and some stuff like artifacts or new character that will "buff" yoimiya before her rerun, just like how they add shenhe to "buff" ganyu before her rerun (despite ganyu doesn't need buff)
@@prohanta9360 they have launched yunjin already
@@xienRawat yunjin wasn't released at the same patch as yoimiya, their nature is to release dedicated support in the same patch. They might release another support for yoimiya on her rerun or adding new artifacts set
The fact that Yae is already close to Raiden in some situations is really good. She's just a sub dps and I didn't expect her to be comparable to Raiden who's one of the best DPS characters at C3 already
Raiden is a supp dps too lol
@@moritzgoder1786 definitely not lmao, maybe if you decide to use her like that at C0 but at C2 and higher she's NOT a sub dps.
technically she has 7 seconds of dps, then goes back to being off field worse than fischl, fischl.
@@mofumofu512 So, Hu Tao is not a DPS either because she has downtime too ?
Use raiden with yae and you will see some funni numbers
- A god
- A holy beast
- Your friendly neighbourhood fireworks maker 😭
This was surprisingly close! I love Yae but I honestly expected her to look really bad. I’m pleasantly surprised to see her perform well against a known speed running champ like Raiden and a painfully underrated character like Yoimiya.
The closeness sort of highlights how the balance is closer than we think in general and the difference between 'good' and 'bad' barely even matters. You could probably throw a Lisa in for comparison and there would be Lisa mains noting that she did better than expected against the big 5 stars. Not intended to discount Yae here at all, but more-so highlighting the importance of 'play what you like' because in the end if it's 10 or 20 or even 30 seconds, it shouldn't matter. If those seconds matter, there's other problems that need to be addressed that would make a bigger difference than one character choice on one of your teams.
Well, that is a c6 tho
Keep in mind, Raiden needs C3 to do that, Yae needs C6 and also Raiden just refills everyones energy at the same time while nuking everything from existence
you also need to consider that Yae was at c6, Raiden really only needs c2 while she can just run Raiden national at c0, Yae is kind of disappointing at c0
Get C6 yae and you will have no problem. Else 😒😒
The winner of this dps showcase is: Raiden
The winner of best girl is: Yoimiya
Edit: Seems like people think my comment is a debate section who is the best girl. You don't need to change the mind of other people in the internet, its just waste of time and energy.
i mean y not..
miko is FOX
Ei is Mommy
and then Yoimiya is the only girl there so.. clearly and SURELY she is best Girl SURELY :)
Best girl bevause Ereshkigal share the same va as Yoimiya
Best girl = childish pew pew firework bimbo? OK.
Yes.. Since Raiden and Yae are best Waifu..
@@excalibirb9204
yes
I may be a bit biased but I assume like the last showdown, raiden will be the winner eternally even in non raiden focused showdowns cough cough xiao.
Edit: raiden did win but I was surprised by yae, perhaps being the archons familiar has it’s perks.
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All cuz of that C2 (and c3)
@@danielvinceneo3556 yep. Raiden would be just as op if the beta raiden came though (for whales since c4 and c2 were switched and c4 kinda sucks) but many f2p’s/low spenders couldn’t save to get raiden broken so I’m glad they’d hanged it
@@danielvinceneo3556 raiden C2 = yae C6, so raiden still better dps and f2p friendly
Thanks for ruining it for me
omg I literally just opened my phone and I saw notification! I'm rooting for Yoimoya although I'm pretty sure she'll come at second and Raiden will be first, I'll watch the vid first tho
She came in second
@@lukasthapa8102 shs came third in the last showdown
@@bijaymanalo8906 yeah but i meant overall
Imagine being second to a sub dps when you're a main dps.
@@Vizible21 its c6 raiden….
I will get Yoimiya on her rerun.
I skipped when she came out.
But now, the game is constantly getting filled up with enemies that like to run away from you instead of attacking. With Yoimiya I won't have to worry about them running away. 🤣
Hi!!! I found you again.
Exactly the reason why I'm pulling for her this time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Harsh1650 hey. I remember you too. 🤣👍
@@TheReaIestOne How are you?
@@Harsh1650 I'm fine, thank you. I hope you're doing good too.☺️👍
I managed to get yae c0 and her weapon. Although she may not be the best now, Im hoping she eventually gets her own artifact set and dendro electro reactions help her.
same in every aspect! really looking forward to the "albedo buff treatment" for yae xD
@@shaunpheonix1158 did albedo get buff? or u mean a new artefuck for him?
@@wibawaputra5411 he got his exclusive weapon in an event like literally his best in slot weapon (well, we already had Oathsworn eye for Yae but it's not on par with her other f2p options) and you know, the new domain for Geo Def scaling characters.
@@wibawaputra5411 alot of indirect buffs, gorou which is basically a 4 star support catererd to the geo def scaling characters, an artifact set and a signature weapon
@firdaus hassan I use 4pc. Thundersoother with 60:250 crit ratio. Do you think it is worth to keep farming the thundering fury/thundersoother domain to get better pieces or should I settle with my current one?
I pulled for Yoimiya even though the 4 star characters on her banner were underwhelming and that many people were saying that Raiden was a better character overall. I don't regret double crowning my girl Yoi till today.
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Triple crowned Yoimiya main here! Same 😋
We have bennet, xinyan and yun jin rn
triple crowned yoi main here !! and i think the same
I actually voted for Yoimiya so I am REALLY glad to see her here. Especially because I didn't think Keqing would really be even close to comparable to the other 2, and Yoimiya would provide a better metric or underdog in this case.
The only thing i learned is that i want a Yoimiya.
bruh SAME
Fast foward back 6 months people are cursing about how Yoimiya sucks and if you think otherwise you are coping , comes back to to present, this is exactly what is happening to Yae Miko now.
@@ChiyoTachi Yoimiya never really sucked and while her artifacts arent great she always seemed fun to play. Its just she had the unlucky position of getting released after Hu Tao with a similar Playstyle (E infusion), but arguably more fun as even C0 Yoimiya can spam while for Hu Tao without C1 she's not that fun to play.
The only reason a lot of people skipped her and called her bad was because she got compared to one of the best DPS characters till this day.
However Miko doesn't feel fun to play in my honest opinion. She takes a lot of time to setup and the ult is easily missable.
She looks pretty good on IWTL showcase but that's a C6 Miko where her towers actually do damage. Although I do hope in the future she gets a set that makes her a bit more fun to play like how Kokomi got one cuz I really like her Visual design.
@@slimshady3116 This game is full of meta slaves and degenerate smps that want everyone to play the game as optimal as possible, as if it matters. The game is already braindead easy like bro its a mobile game
As a yoimiya main, GOODLUCK I HOPE YOU GET HER ON YOUR FIRST 10X/SINGLE PULL SHE'S AMAZING
16:25 Beidou instead of Xingqiu really kicks that team up a notch, especially because of the low dual target nature of the enemies you're fighting here. Yoimiya and Beidou work exceptionally well together as they cover each other's weaknesses quite well. I've found beidou can keep up with xingqiu's damage or even outshine him depending on what youre fighting , and in this case she wouldve had a leg up
Tbh would love to see c0 versions of this for a more normal dmg display
but the point is literally to show their max potential, not normal dmg
@@havidikevidi personal opinion, c6 of all 5 stars drastically change their performance and might create unrealistic expectations. I feel a DPS showdown of c0 characters would be exponentially more usable and by a majority of the player base.
I think IWTL wants to do c0 showdowns but all his characters are already c6 lol
@@a2zisboo which part of it not being the point did you not understand? It wont create any unrealistic expectations because people arent blind and they are informed about the characters being c6r5. This channel is here to show MAX POTENTIAL. Not your f2p numbers, its not that hard to understand. You can find another channel for that.
@@havidikevidi read the video title and come back… it doesn’t say max potential… it just says dps showdown
TLDR:
All of em deal so much dmg cuz theyre full whale capped anyways so don't feel bad if you're doing a significant amount of lesser dmg, enjoy the experiment and have fun. :)
Wow, that's actually a bad TLDR for this video, u just wanna said that and label it as "TLDR", i agree with your statement nonetheless
Bruh you just put your own spin at what iwtl said on his disclaimer
Enjoy the experiment?
n people in this comment sometime take his vid as guide video... lol
You only need c2 or c3 raiden to be doing close to this damage.
Besides the remarkable performance of all the contenders, I think it’s worth reminding that Raiden and Yae can be also great sub-dps’s.
They both require field-time but they will reward your team with AoE, off-field damage, energy generation and applying electro with 100% uptime.
The only one pure main DPS is Yoimiya, moreover a Pyro DPS, and still she can compete with the 2 electro buddies only in few scenarios.
Bonus point for Raiden: she is capable to offer the 90% of the potential shown in this video already at C3, probably 80% with EL R1.
considering the abyss enemies were all ones that are pyro resistant yoimiya being only a few seconds short means pyro weak ones she can easily do much better.
I'm so happy seeing my main Yoimiya doing so well and how much love she is getting in the comments!!
Great to see my favorite character Yoimiya! She's such an underrated character who still easily clears abyss for me and is so easy to build even for f2p players
Miko spitting her food and eating it again reminds me of neptune eating a krabby patty.
Wow even while having to kill 4 ruinguards back to back one at a time Yoimiya did really good!
I’m waiting on yoimiya’s next rerun for sure, I didn’t get to get her last time because of ayaka and raiden but I will get her next time
that god-like music at the end with Raiden+Yae, courtesy of Pokemon Battle Revolution is just chef's kiss
IMO..(Raiden is must pull??)
AFTER the CoCoGOAT(The Goat forever)... RAIDEN SHOGUN is the only 1 who can b DPS, Sub - DPS , Support so MVP here is fr is Raiden..
Bless you, keep the good work iwintolose.
raiden is easily one of the best characters in GI when it comes to speed running content...high multipliers for her initial slash and easy to get buff for that initial slash and boom with quite large AOE and than w that C2 haha but ayaka c2/c4 and shenhe is good also for speed running content
I agree also there never will be overall best character Ayaka, melt Ganyu, Eula and Raiden all can be used for different situation in speed running,
@@Harsh1650 "ONE OF THE best characters in gi"
@@Harsh1650 dont forget hutao and childe for speedrunning
@@Harsh1650 yep... i just think and want to share that raiden kit really suit this new abyss rotation...hehe...that is all...overall there are many good characters out there and also itto geo trio
I started genshin 1 month ago, and I have heard that c0 can act as a really good support, but the problem is I dont even have a main dps character, I am using physical kaeya as my dps now but idk if pulling for raiden will be beneficial for my account. I dont have enough primos to get c2 shogun. What should i do? Should I save primos for other dps characters or c0 raiden can act as dps?
I remember back when Yae being a playable character was just a rumor that some people were saying that she would would be the new ceiling of Eletro damage. But as we now know, that's not the case.
Either way, it's impressive to see that she is competitive with Raiden.
When people said that, i always thinking, "how can she topped Raiden, and how mihoyo will create full stacked kit to top Raiden"
Yes I remember when a leaker said her raw damage will be in par with ganyu
Well there were lots of rumors going around that time tho, and she was expected to be an on-field dps. According to the rumors, her kit wasnt like this, mihoyo got like 2 or 3 kits designed for her and one of them is to priortise na and charged attacks, that's why her na and ca were designed nicely. But dunno why they ended up choosing the last kit which is this totem one
Keep in mind that, it was Sukuna who said that and he did like 40 leaks in one pic and said that half are fake and half are real, so obviously Yae being electro dps ceiling was fake to me
I'll wait on her specific artifact set before coming to a conclusion bout her imo.
A SUB-DPS being compared with these great dps is what I think makes Yae a well-balanced unit. Can't wait to have both these electro queens.
OMG 3 of my most favorite characters in one Iwintolose video!!! So amazing! Ei is my number one and Yae or Ayato by design are already my number two meanwhile Ayaka or Yoimiya are tied for my number 3 followed by Kazuha who definitely takes that 4th (6th) place!! I do think Yae’s damage is good especially at C6 but I want her bugs to be fixed especially against tracking wolf lord
regardless of who's in first place, they are all waifu queens in my book
Same I love raiden miko yoi all the same infact they are my Overworld team with kokomi (I don't like kokomi that much but gotta agree she is the walking statue of the seven)
@@fly8668 i love kokomi
@@kye2379 cool she is nice
Yae’s kit will shine on longer battles with off field dps doing 200-300k per set ☺️
@IWinToLose Gaming it would be interesting to see how you get your "damage potential" numbers. Beside depending on team / buffs / rotations - I've tried maximizing the damage formula and arrived at 5 coupled quadratic equations (that's not including HP or DEF scaling chars or similar) which look like not so much fun to solve so I stopped. I put them into Mathematica and my PC ran out of memory .. soo uh. Did you solve those or how do you get those "potential" percentages?
th-cam.com/video/tT9DXJtwcOw/w-d-xo.html
I have been wanting to know this as well, since his old video about it is outdated and the website doesn't get updated.
I believe he has a video about it on how to calculate damage potentials. It's an early video of his so ya gotta scroll down a bit on his channel.
edit:
heres the link of his vid
th-cam.com/video/TWGVuQcR3no/w-d-xo.html
Nerd
you sound like your lying bro, genshin related maths is not that complicated,. It's usually just a combination of addition and multiplication. It includes their weapon, artifact set, artifact substats and highest dps related comp.
That's the thing about Yae, her passive damage has no downtime.
Raiden's passive damage has no downtime either
@@jesuispasvalid8392 yea but yaes passive 10x damage
That's actually one thing I really like about her but it takes so long to cast her elemental skills I hope we can instant cast her totems in a triangle shape around Yae but still activating the passive of Yaes weapon
and also let another carry do on-field dmg simultaneously
@@jesuispasvalid8392 yes but it does barely any damage, and it's reactive damage rather than active damage so that is more useful for reactions like Superconduct etc. It's also
1 thing for sure, yoimiya is the cutest
okay now pleasee do this with the new addition of dendro. I wanna see how yae improved! 🥰🥰
No precasting showcase should have been done with itto vs eula too rip
I kinda think adding Beidou might help Yoimiya and doesn't seem unfair. Her ability to drive Beidou seems like a selling point for her given Raiden cannot. I'm aware it's not a Beidou but it's not like Kazuha and Sara do no damage either. It's just an additional factor that the dogs are weak to electro and Yoimiya is up against 2 electro as well while not using one of her best teammates who is also electro.
All three(I have all three characters) are amazing DPS characters to have, to me, there all top tier characters.
Gigachad
you are very fun to watch and very reliable for the best tips you provide ~
Me with C0 R5 Catch Raiden able to do salad chopping in one shot....... welp no need constellation then
remember when someone said Raiden is shit on debut, and now straight up comparing her to *cough Xiao *cough is not fair
one of her constellation decreases her E cooldown when her burst is procced. also, if u watched IWTL shimenawa’s effect was always on
and again, with the release of a new character, the overgrown lettuces are bullied once more
your enjoyment making this really shows in the video, i love it! thanks for yet another great vid man
Hey IWTL - FYI the Dodoco King is Alice (Klee's mom), not Maguu Kenki!
considering how speedrunning works (the bigger the initial nuke the faster) im proud of how yoimiya did
Yoimiya best girl
you should consider doing Childe's fight comparison also because Childe's fight is one of the situations where character with sustained dps is better than burst dps, this should be able to showcase a little bit more of Yae's capability
Childe have 70% electro dmg resistance
@@Harsh1650 both are c6 r5, both will be doing damage regardless because of their def ignore, the question is, who has better dps uptime between yae and raiden
I really wanted yoimiya when she came out and got her at c0 but really wish I pulled for her weapon as well 😭 so when thundering pulse gets a rerun I will get my hands on it but for now she works perfectly fine with r5 rust and clears my abyss runs :3
I only have R1 rust and she works pretty well for abyss 12 second half
Ok but can we all agree that Yae taking the food out of her mouth and putting it back onto the plate is the best part of the video
Its things like this that make me ignore those DPS junkies that judge characters before even playing them.
Yoimiya and Raiden both had rocky releases, now look at them go now
I just love the commentary on these types of videos. It's too damn funny 😆🤣
Glad to see Yae is still broken. I usually wait for your vids to pass judgment because then seem more scientific than day 1 vids. Thank you.
the electro support Raiden wins another dps showdown who would have guessed.. Raiden C2 is the best character in the game together with Benny and Kazuha without a doubt. Support character who beats pretty much every dps character even in terms of damage by her own.
not to mention she doesn't need support unlike most dps char
This just furthers my thinking that most Inazuma characters are built with coop in mind, their kit is somewhat questionable and caused controversy when talking about singleplayer uses[oneshot teams, Spiral Abyss and etc.] but when used in coop the downsides of their kit gets immediately compensated when another player is on field at the same time that being coop mode
yae's dmg is nowhere near being weak it's just that her mechanic takes too much time and that burst cost is just straight up ridiculous
Her problem is she needs a zhongli
@@souravbiswas2510 not necessarily although it is always nice to have a zhongli shield around
@@jon-wi1fl it is coz she lacs i frames on her e
@@souravbiswas2510I don't usually use zhongli with her and my experience with yae has been completely fine. imo it's great to have zhongli with her but not entirely a must
Keep in mind these characters are all C6. Yoimiya doesn't get much better with constellations. In fact she should be a better dps at C0 and with a 4* weapon than Raiden and Yae.
She isnt a better dps than raiden at c0, yae isnt even a dps lol
i regret pulling for Yae, i expected more. I already have great DPS characters like Eula, Ganyu and Hu Tao, so i currently have a character that is great for overworld content, but doesnt help much in my abyss teams. I'm a Welkin only player, so they are all C0.
Thats why you only pull for the characters you want
Who said i didn't want Yae? I wanted her, but just expected more.
@@GiesbertsN shes great as a support burst, probably one of the better ones. She wasnt meant to be a main dps
Omg IWTL wth 2:25 kekw… That’s intentional I swear… I’m scared I think I just unlock something… send help
Could you do a subdps showdown with yae, albedo and fischl/any others just to show how yae can keep up with them. Edit:: I completely forgot that his yae was c6 lol
His yae is C6 now so that won't work, and you can find other people's video about it
Spoiler: yae won
C6 Yae will win
@@putent9623 "bu bu bu buttttt🍑.... Fischl is better than Yae."
-random F2P no Yae, tryhard meta slave
@@Vizible21 ight bro keep calling people who have a different opinion than you metaslaves, good job
@@Vizible21 but she is , im not f2p and i can easily pull Yae miko, but among c0 yae and fischl i think fischl is better(only for f2ps) of course for c6 yae will win.
your video always fun dude, good job and keep it up!
Yae only did well because she's actually really good at C6. If this were all at C0, you'd see a stark difference.
C0 with R5 4 star weapons. Would drastically changed the results.
No shit Sherlock
Contents like these arent made for f2ps, we need a guide for actual f2ps. in that case, almost all characters have different playstyles at c0
Regardless of the characters constellations, there is still the max stats that each character gets via level up front each level ascension as well. We found out the hard way when we had one of the characters dropping back levels, and not even realizing that his stats stopped increasing after a little while of it occurring. The characters stats also might not be technically correct as well, as there is stats that can not get acquired through level up. We definitely found this information out about the game while the rest the people playing it were doing their own independent actions in the game at the exact same time.
It would appear that the new region expects players to have their characters with the highest stats possible as well to have the highest artifacts possible to equip them as well. We have also been improving the artifacts that they have equipped almost every time as well. Then again we are refusing to rank up any more world ranks to see if it actually matters or not.
Remember about the disclaimers guys, these comparisons are fraught with flaws uncertainties and just variances in general. Not to mention these are RUNS and not MATH
Fun fact: Magatsu Mitake Narukami no Mikoto roughly translates to Raiden's Sexy War-Machine
Im glad to see a new video about elecrto and pyro waifu!)
Dope way to do the outro
As a whale i can't wait till yae gets her own set. It may push all these times up a bit. I will say yae at c6 is the afk queen. You really don't have to do anything but keep her alive and the turrets will clear everything. Shes made the transport mission even easier with her auto target.
Very nice as always. Keep up the good work!
Have you done a DPS showdown of the anemo, geo and electro traveler? Not sure if it’s viable 🤔
thanks for making these i cant imagine how long it takES
Why must we as a society pit three queens against eachother?..
do it again with others
There can only be 1 Queen. We spit on de false queens
@@r12j78 that queen is ganyu but in my heart it’s keqing
@@yoi3652 fk ganyu and keqing. The true queen is sara from good hunter
Bit late to comments, but personally i dont find it fair that raiden can just have full stacks before the fight starts
A 20 minutes long Genshin video with full indepth explanation. I like it.
You should make dps showdown on hypercarry teams, like Eula's, Raiden, Ayaka, etc
(Though it'll just be Bennett Kazuha showcase all over again)
Holy shit, you managed kill shogun in such a short time, it really takes me more than 5 minutes to do it.
I really enjoy Yae(been using a lot of Raiden/Yae since she was released), would've been cool to see a stab at 2.5 floor 12's second half(since I think that side is a little fairer to yoimiya), but overall a really cool comparison
Yes yoimiya has places where she is better. She is ment for 1 opponent. Or small far away opponents let yoimiya have her advantages
I’m still secretly waiting for a buff on Yae Miko
Super armor while dashing
Hold skill would release a mini burst but 9 sec cd and no DoT obv and single target
A bit higher NA scaling
Raiden is a super useful support while being better DPS than a dedicated DPS character
Hogging my primos as a F2P to get C3 Raiden was one of my best game decisions.
@@shblade5984 Same.
@@shblade5984 same. And it is fun to see other people suffer in abyss while we raiden mains just first try🤣
@@marinbestgirl9417 Raiden is straight up broken once you've reached C2/C3..
The only thing I have to say Is about the first showcase...It's a bit unfair for me cause baal and yae had an elemental reaction(After using Benny), while yoimiya no
the game cut away at the end when raiden used her burst on that poor samachurl because it was too gruesome to watch
Thought I’ve been subscribed to this channel, but it seems that I wasn’t.
So, subscribed now, ehe.
I'm convinced that your humours getting better and better day by day
very good video watched the whole thing
What about a DPS showdown between Kaeya,Lisa and Amber???
All hail Raiden, the killer of Electro! The only electro she will keep is Sara kek
my man beating the Raiden boss in 10 seconds and I have to go through a 10 minutes war
DPS SHOWDOWN seems like a gameshow or something.
I love it.
Well I started playing a few weeks after the yoimiya banner, didnt have enough primos to get yae Miko und won't have enough to get Raiden because I'm f2p... I don't really care about yae Miko but I really want yoimiya and Raiden... Guess I'll be saving up for a year....
Yae's burst at 12:12, directed by Michael Bay
BTW your videos are amazing
I´m here to see Yae serve me a Bowl of Tofu... was not disappointed
Would really like to see an additional comparison with Yae vs Fischl in a sub dps role on logical teams that they'd be included in interchangeably. Fischl does less damage herself, but she takes very little field time and generates more energy for her team. Yae does more damage herself but is a worse battery and sucks up field time where her main dps team-mate would have potentially done better dps than Yae does. Which actually produces the faster clear and by how much? And that's the problem F2P or low spenders face with Yae. If she's not an impactful clear-time upgrade over Fischl, why not just keep using Fischl and save a lot of wishes for a 5 star weapon on your main dps or a new and potentially highly impactful future alternative. I think we're too hard on Yae and she probably would produce better times than Fischl, but I just don't know how much; to judge if Yae is worth it at all or completely a skip character for anyone unless they just really like Yae's character.
Was waiting for this 👀
Miko is really fun to use, i feel like she is a great "support"/sup-dps character
2:25 that food must be blessed🤤
I always love watching your videos, especially the DPS showdowns like this one, but my thumbs up is awarded mostly because of your "the thiccest thing in Genshin Impact" comment. 😂😂😂😂😂
Anyways, great content as always!
Sad that Raiden does better damage than Yae while providing a lot more support for teams. Yae just seems so useless to me right now compared to others.
Raiden does better than almost every other dps while providing a lot more support for teams. That's just how strong Raiden at C2/C3 is.
Well, Raiden has her signature artifacts, while Yae is stuck with mix sets. Yae is also a ranged character, which explains why her timing is so similar to Yoimiya. Raiden being melee warrants her to have more damage as mihoyo usually gives better scaling to melee characters, and the reason why Hu Tao outdps Yoimiya. Not to mention Yae does more off field damage while Raiden is mostly on field, which is another reason to reduce Yaes dps ceiling.
@@hubertbong2747 How would a dedicated artifact set change the fact that Raiden supports with her kit while doing decent damage at C0 and great damage at C2?
Yae takes forever to set the sub dps and doesn't snapshot she is a sub dps that wants to stay on field and requires a ungodly amount of energy to burst, her kit is missing something and I don't see how a set would change that, she can deal more damage with a dedicated set but Yae damage isn't the problem the real problem is how weird she is.
"sub dps" with a nuke on a high energy cost with a weird EM (passive specially being electro) and dealing better damage on field due to not being able to snapshot and taking almost 3 seconds to set up the first part of her rotation...
She is Xinyan with better multipliers...
@@drekhunter Ah yes, Yae Miko is definitely Xinyan with better multipliers. I mean look at her, she is a physical support dps with split scaling and shielding capabilities. Oh wait...
@@nathanaelpierre9439 Yae the sub dps with 2 secs setup time and even longer for a rotation, a passive that encourages EM and requiring field time to deal max damage with the deployables.
She contradict herself so stop trying to twist my example to cope with the fact that Yae full potential can't be achieved just like Xinyan due to the fact that both kits point in opposite directions.
They both need dedicated slots to cover flaws, Xinyan is a physical dps but being pyro doesn't have a easy way to supperconduct, while Yae requires a battery while being electro you have to VV swirl or get EM there somehow.
If you go full dps Xinyan forget about the shield same for Yae forget about being off field even as a "sub dps".
Both as supports get overshadowed by units that are easier to obtain or set up.
Clunky elemental skill.
Constelations that solve problems that shouldn't have existed in the first place and focusing on one part of the kit.
In Xinyan defense she is a 4* and the constelations try to work with her elemental and burst.
That missed arrow at 6:40 tho hsksjks i think they really need to improve the tracking of bow users' normal attacks ;-;
Damn looks like all this crapping on Yae by the community really left a mark…Yae beat all the odds going up against two on field DPS’. She absolutely kept up with the two, yet y’all are just commenting about Yoimiya’s impressive damage?
(To be clear not hating on Yoimiya or the people celebrating her, bc she deserves it! I just wanted to point out that just as Yoimiya was treated unfairly, so was Yae and peoples unfair treatment of her shows in this video once more)
cuz yoimiya is such an underrated character and made fun by meta slaves. So seeing her compete with and beat these 2 electro mommies is just amazing
@@batch9518 She totally is and again, my intent was not to hate on her. She deserves all the love🥰! It’s just that Yae endured the same treatment so yeah…
This man like: oh god I lost two seconds on the boss, bruh I take like 5 min