Except when it comes to politics and they vote for the people who'll take money out of your pocket instead of the Dems who are trying to put it in your pocket!!! 🤦♂🤦♀
@@margaretnicol3423 keep in mind, they do it believing the opposite. "Tax and spend democrats" are all one word in their heads. Democrats do a crappy job of explaining money to the public, Republicans don't even try.
@@NWPaul72 True although even Grump said that the Dems were better with money. They miss the ''you'' from that phrase - tax you to spend on you instead of corporations!
Whenever I see people doing this kinda stuff on my local community forums I immediately start bitching about how they are wasting my god damn tax dollars by calling the cops over kids riding their skateboarding or whatever. Do you want those kids sitting at home playing video games all day or do you want them outside playing, getting exercise, and enjoying their childhood?
Lol. I was one of those skateboarders in my youth. We would always ask the police where we could skateboard that wouldn't bother people. They never had an answer but at least a majority of them were polite. Did have one that would curse at us and got in my face one time threatening to take me in for obstructing the sidewalk.
See a strange car in the neighborhood, wave. Someone going up and down the street multiple times, ask if they need some directions, help finding a lost dog, or whatever. Being friendly is a real crime deterrence ;)
As a security guard, if I'm suspicious of someone, I may totally chat them up in a friendly, polite manner, like I don't suspect a thing. What I'm doing is getting a really good look at them so I can provide a really good description.😁
@@grmpEqweer Yep. And any potential trouble maker knows that. Deterrence ;) It also gives you a better sense of all the legit reasons someone might be acting a bit suspicious. Probably not a surprise to you, but for a lot of folks it is sort of a realization to find out that most other people acting a bit sus aren't actually up to no good.
@@travcollier Not necessarily. Some criminals are really dumb enough to think they've got one over on you because you're being nice to them. BTDT. Street criminals aren't generally the sharpest tacks in the box. (Otherwise they'd be white collar criminals, where rewards are higher and chances of prison are lower.)
@Adam Johnson to be fair...he said value. I would consider the value to be lessened considerably by active Karens in my neighborhood. The property upkeep falls to the owner, I imagine not alot of criminals are forward thinking enough to maintain a household and are most likely renters. Quite a few properties I encounter on the daily are unkempt...some actually hazardous. Hard working, (60+hours/week) law abiding citizens too stressed out and exhausted ....and sometimes too old to properly maintain.
@Adam Johnson ummm have you ever watched a documentary about a criminal enterprise? Most of them live pretty lavish lifestyles. And plenty of criminals live in gated communities. They just aren't constantly on the news due to biased media and a biased country in general. People would quickly notice a pattern.
Friendly reminder; *Adam Johnson* is very likely John Smith, the regular far-right troll that came here to argue in bad faith and cowardly playing dumb when cornered (which is so easy that even my seven-year old niece could do). Better not to reply to him, or at least not directly.
@Adam Johnson That maybe true about your average dope slanger but those supplying the dope slanger lives in lavish areas and they aren't apart of a mob or cartel but more than likely getting that dope from a mob or cartel!
Getting charged with wasting police time would suck, too. Also, maybe, just a thought, but do you remember that time six NYPD officers fired 120 shots at some guy in a car and only hit him twice? That's 118 bullets that went _somewhere else_ and, well, is your front wall bulletproof? Half an inch of pine, a few inches of silicon candy floss and a bit of drywall won't stop a .22 short, never mind a 9 x 19 mm.
Most cops use 9 mm semiautomatics, loaded with hollowpoint rounds, as their duty weapons here in Freedomland. Hollowpoints don't penetrate walls as effectively as other rounds. ...I don't currently own a firearm, but when I did I had hollowpoint rounds.
@@grmpEqweer yeahhhhhh but that is *if* they're doing a justifiable amount of shooting, which cops are not known for. you get four cops on a scene and that's potentially between 80 - *200* bullets.
I don't remember the details but that reminds me of a house being raided a while ago and the neighbors complaining of the holes in their walls where the bullets had gone through.
I joined NextDoor when the pandemic hit. I used to work as a nurse, and I figured people may need help. Within a week or so, I deleted the app from my phone. Oh My God! I have the most racist Karens living in my neighborhood. If I didn't delete the app, I would've lost faith in humanity. I have an elderly couple who lives next door. I go over and mow their lawn every so often to keep the city off their backs. That's what being a neighbor should be about, not calling the authorities because someone is homeless.
I had a similar experience when I moved into a new neighborhood 3 years ago. Once I joined I was so disgusted by the racism, pettiness, and raging ignorance that I deleted it. Decided I didn't want to know who these folks are.
Very noble of you to help your elderly neighbors. I don't know where you live, but in my neighborhood we have mostly white families with some Asian, black, and Hispanic families. Everyone respects each other and gets along.
But the app did awaken you to who you’re living around. I had the same experience but decided to keep the app so as to remind me what kind of people I’m living around. Sadly, most of them are FoxNews consumers and you can see it in their texts on the app. They repeat verbatim what u hear on that so-called news channel.
I remembered hearing "If you see something, say something" right after 911 and knew right then it was going to a bad place. Here we are. People are insane morons in most circumstances.
Yep I remember that as well. It's bad enough police target people for the color of their skin, let's get everybody to do it. Every time I get junk mail from Nextdoor it goes in the trash. No, I will not join the neighborhood gestapo
I will never forget waking up that day and seeing the crashes on TV. It felt kind of unreal in a way. Even in that state of shock, my first thoughts were how this would push the entire country even farther to the right because of the hysteria it would cause. And especially after the supreme court forced us to accept bush as president (we've had coups in the U.S. before, just never so blatant and violent as the 6th), I knew right then our already right-wing government was going to start at least one war over it.
Actually, I'm okay with that, because when I respond I can usually make everybody feel better about the situation. Of course, 99% of the time when I respond to benign situations, there is also a 'response / nothing to report' placed on the log.
Thats the argument that the neighbors all had....the "if you see something suspiscious, call the police, its better to be safe than sorry" Just found out....I think the ACLU is suing my state for illegal searches & seizures. Gotta remember to call them up with the transcript from the court reporter to which the officer admitted to lying in his report. Hopefully it will go smoothly (hahaha, i made a funny)
I was on the bus once, and an old guy got on with a youngster. The old guy was say, "When I was your age, everyone knew everyone on the street, and kept an eye on what was happening. These days, I don't even know my next door neighbours' names... It is great!" 😂
My neighbors and I all wave and smile and talk about each other, but not so much to each other. They're mostly armed to the gills, I let them think I am, too. Country livin'!
So I was on next door app and had someone on there biching about neighbors weeds and crap they were habitual code enforcement callers for everything it turns out but my argument was its says a lot that the inclination to call on stupid stuff rather then go knock and make sure they were OK and offer help...turned out it was an elderly woman by herself lost husband a year ago and lawnmower broke and she didn't know what to do. The ones who cared helped her and I share a schedule with others and mow her grass once every 3 months for free bc it's we think that's part of being a neighbor. The woman who was bragging about calling has been gone from app! We are glad lol! 😊
I'm a home care nurse and I can't count how many times a week I find my self driving up and down the neighborhood looking for an address or sitting in my car preparing for assignments. There are people providing essential services for the elderly in your neighborhood that are practically invisible. Don't put them out because of your bigotry.
and if you're picking up your girlfriend who is providing essential services, and you've been double parked for half an hour... admit it. I spoke to the young man. He told me nothing as to why he was double parked in front of my and my neighbors house. I didn't call the cops. But I was close. Bigotry want involved. A lack of info was.
I hear you. I worked in homes providing services to children with ASD and have done the same thing. Can’t tell you how many times I have had people approach me and even follow me. I often felt scared and explaining myself felt like a violation of the family’s privacy.
I have passed addresses and turned around, but never drove up and down the street multiple times. But I also wouldn't have thought to call the police if someone did.
@@thomthom6268 And he needs to answer your questions _why, exactly?_ Who do you think you are to be interrogating American citizens about their comings and goings? Also, did it occur to you that maybe he thought "Wow, this guy questioning me about my presence seems oddly confrontational and pushy. This is kind of freaking me out a little. Maybe I shouldn't tell him about my girlfriend, who is often on his street for hours at a time with only an elderly person with her"? No, of course not, because you're obviously the main character and your need to feel like you're Magnum P.I. trumps everyone else's rights. Miss me with that "show me your papers" BS.
Police often have slippery trigger fingers. I think if some Karen type person calls the cops for a totally unfounded reason like "the black kids are hanging out across the street and look suspicious" or something AND it results in someone getting killed by the cops the "Karen" should face involuntary manslaughter charges for creating the danger in the first place and I think I am being GENEROUS with the "involuntary".
@@kevinconrad6156 All of that would depend on how the situation looks like - with details. Police are people (going controversial for the channel - bear with me please) - they don't like being someone's dogs. But if neighbor is IDK - important person in local hospital or something like that, or donates heavily to Police - they will bear being dogs, because it's easier than the alternative.
True, and if you live in other areas, they won't respond to calls for any reason. I'm not joking. There is a huge neighborhood in East Oakland called _Sobrante Park_ that has only one way in and out. The O.P.D. keeps a patrol car parked at the entrance 24/7, but they never go inside, not even to escort the ambulances and coroners. One day my friend asked me to drive him over to his moms to pick up a few things for his new apartment (I'd never even heard of the place before then), and as we drove into what looked like an average neighborhood at first, I started noticing bullet holes in all of the walls (many of them groups of holes scattered in horizontal lines from automatic weapons), and 10 to 11 year old kids selling crack on the sidewalk. That made me wonder where the teenagers were until I noticed heads peeking over the edge of roofs. His mom lived in a three story apartment building near the far end that had all of it's windows boarded up with plywood. Mind you this was 11am and I got the feeling none of them had ever seen a white person in that neighborhood before me. I'm a confident person and it takes a lot to actually scare me. I've even had a gun pointed at my head from six feet away before. This was in Oakland too, but it was some random white dude from the suburbs, and it's the only time anyone has ever pulled a gun on me. I still remained calm with that gun leveled at me, but Sobrante Park is one place I will never go again. Seeing all of that was the greatest example of systemic bigotry and the harm it does that I've ever seen with my own two eyes. The police had left the all black neighborhood on it's own for so many decades, that poverty and lack of any outside support, especially not from the the police, had conspired to create a neighborhood where gangs were the only enforcement of any kind. Luckily that friend of mine grew up in a much different area. His dad was rich, so rich he could afford lawyers to keep him from having to pay much child support for his younger brother, and not have to pay any alimony after divorcing his mom, witch is why she ended up there after they lived in the richest city in the SF East Bay: Piedmont, a city that is literally inside the city of Oakland. One of those places where you will get a ticket at 2am on a lonely road with no traffic whatsoever, just for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. This actually happened to me, and I am a very careful driver and did stop enough the car lurched to a halt. Quite the opposite, being a super wealthy almost entirely white city, from Sobrante Park. I did however have another friend who did grow up in Sobrante Park. He moved out of there when he was 13 and started working full time, because otherwise he had two choices: join a gang, or be murdered by one of them. His life outside of that neighborhood was no picnic though. The surroundings he grew up in had made him a much different person that he otherwise would have been, and some of the ways he had adopted just to survive childhood made it very difficult for people who never even knew such places existed, to accept him. He's a really good person, but even knowing that I was still hard pressed to not feel intimidated sometimes myself. But you know, I am more proud of him than I am of most people I've met. He overcame a severe handicap so obviously brought on by systemic bigotry, and made a good life for himself as a landscaper, and is one one of the hardest working people I've ever met. I'm very proud to have had him as my friend. ^-^
If someone calls the cops for a non-emergency, those people should be given a ticket of, say $500, for wasting police resources. That is yet another monetary motivator for those folks. Love yer show!
@EmbleerHomba If Karen calls the police and it turns out to be nonsense, as it is with most Karens, they should be fined. It sounds as if you're being purposely obtuse about my post, and the obvious abuse/misuse of dialing 911.
I want to agree with you; but …. police! The assessment/reporting of whether it is a “non-emergency” call would be left to the police. In that world as in ours “Karen/Ken gonna be alright.” 🤬
Not for those calling the police constantly because of racist, xenophobic or whatever beliefs they have. Close neighbors are not the only people that may drive or walk down your streets. Seeing any "others" as a potential criminal in the 1st place, or just causing harassment because of hateful beliefs, is the actual issue.
@@karenl7786 - I used to work security. One place was an apartment building. There were people who called with bullshit complaints simply to harass other tenants. Some people have less maturity than small children.
@@karenl7786 Still, it is a good first step. If they recognize the car down the street as belonging to the Jones’s, they’re not gonna call the cops. Added Bonus: If they don’t recognize the car sitting there for 5 minutes, they’ll have plenty of neighbors they can call for clarification before calling armed thugs to handle the situation. This behavior is relatively new at this rate of occurrence. Maybe it has something to do with feeling isolated and not feeling like part of a community.
I have called the police twice in my life, once when I saw someone beating someone else up on the street and again when I saw someone driving while texting on the highway who almost killed people. The crazy thing is I actually felt guilty calling in the second instance because even though they were clearly putting people in harm's way, they were not in a fight, did not have a gun or a knife. I can't imagine calling the police over petty shit
No reason for you to feel guilty at all for the second one, more cars driven by more assholes, kill more people than guns and knives combined and guns and knives kill plenty.
My son has a classmate who is being buried on Monday. They haven't released the reason for the auto accident, but it suspiciously looks like texting. CALL.
The reason these people call is for excitement and a sense of being superior to others. These people WANT to be in danger, it goes along with their sense of constantly being a victim. They LIVE to be abused. It's sad, really. The thing is, once they do get the property values lowered, they will blame it on someone else. It's ALWAYS someone else.
My neighbors recently called the sheriff on me, saying my dog is outside alone all the time without shelter or water. She's a livestock guardian dog. She has shelter, but that would make it harder for her to watch the property so she prefers to guard from a raised garden bed, exposed to the elements. We went on FB like "I personally didn't think the scenario required men with guns but apparently someone did. If anyone has any questions about any of our animals, the front door is just around the corner of the house, feel free to knock."
luckily i live in a neighborhood where we all look out for each other. I talk with my neighbors all the time to make sure they're ok and they do the same. I would trust any one of them to watch my kids or my home if need be. Sadly thats not the case for many people though.
The purpose of NextDoor is to sow distrust, hatred and fear so that the small businesses that are NextDoor's advertising customers can sell security products, fencing, lights, etc., and to rival Facebook's political advertising business with their unique selling point of hyper localism. Good luck talking to your neighbours when they have already been poisoned against you. The various "smart" doorbell companies are trying a similar strategy on their own platforms, with an even more obvious commercial incentive towards destroying trust. Community spirit has been monetised. They control the platform on which you communicate, even to your neighbours now.
We do too. We couldn't have been given a catalog, picked out, bought and paid for, better neighbors. We love where we live. And no one around here uses that next door crap.
Many of the comments are saying "if I had to choose, nosy neighbors, or neighbors that ignore you", and prefer the latter... well, it just makes me sad that we're talking about this. I was watching the news about the recent tornado, and commented that it's a shame that the only time folks come together and help each other, is when disaster strikes. Why can't we just be like that everyday 😒 ❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️🐎
Hitting them in the pocketbook is more effective than discussion with that mindset. In addition to potentially affecting property values, every place I’ve lived has had fines for making false reports since most people call 911 rather than their local Sherriff’s or Police office even if the situation is not a true emergency.
This happened to me, sitting in my car in front of my house. Never knew who called the police or they were just cruising, but then I had to endure a sobriety test. Nosy neighbors make the worse neighbors
I've been pulled over in my own driveway before. Statistically speaking, there have to be good cops, but I've never met one who who didn't make things worse.
I have a confession to make. I almost killed a delivery guy last week. I have a neighbor who uses code enforcement as a weapon. She walks the neighborhood with clippers, massacring landscaping and then calling code because what she's left is ugly. She calls code on us every year, and cost us thousands complaining about our raised beds and deck we built -- long story short the county harassed us for 7 months then said we were legal to begin with -- she stopped calling code on us when we returned the favor, but she continues harassing the black neighbors. She calls code on the Hispanic neighbors, and our Georgia boys in blue draw down on them every time they come out. So, since we have this new term, "Karen" and when the guy delivering pallets of wall block asked if the neighbors were going to be OK with it on our front lawn, I said, "Everyone is cool except that neighbor (pointing) who is the poster child for Karen." Poor guy was taking a sip of his coffee and almost choked to death.
"That car doesn't belong here!" Aka driving whole BIPOC, I have a neighbor who does it frequently, usually around the beginning of the month when a bunch of new people have moved into our apartment complex. Even the local cops are sick if it but they come every time.
It'd be nice if your apartment buildings could just issue a sticker for residents, and also have designated guest parking... That way mr/ms paranoid would have less to complain about? ...Or they could just figure out that nonwhite people rent apartments...🤦
@@grmpEqweer it takes a bit to get the stickers and they are hard to see. The funny thing is that my neighborhood is incredibly diverse. She is just an old nosy racist.
Don’t forget the economic impact of the “crime rate” on the home owners insurance. Frequently the “Frequent Flyers” who call the cops, (or HOA), are retirees who don’t have anything to keep them occupied. And, whose house is their primary asset. they are worried about it, but don’t have clue of the short and long term effect on their equity in the property.
Where I live you can be fined for $750 for making frivolous 911 calls. When I see any cars or people in my neighbourhood I don't bother with it. Unless I see a person running down the street with a TV under his arm I don't care.
I have a story similar to that. A woman driving her car down my street in the wee hours ran into my neighbors car that was parked at the curb, pushing the parked vehicle onto my lawn. My neighbor came out of his house to investigate and the driver took off running, with him in pursuit. When she saw some folks outside their houses she yelled "RAPE" -- so they tackled him. The police arrived to sort things out and it didn't work to her advantage that her boyfriend was still unconscious in the wrecked truck. I believe she was ultimately charged with drunk driving and leaving the scene of an accident with injuries. My neighbor was allowed to go back into his house to try to get some more sleep. Interesting times.
I live in a neighborhood where everyone except two of us have those door bell cams. I moved back in to my childhood home. We have no crime before they installed them. Love when one of them says, “ohhh you were working on your yard today”. No privacy.
"Next Dork" types really are not engaged in their neighborhoods. As Beau says, they are just "nosy neighbors" at best and at worst people who want to stir up drama in their empty lives. And yes, there is often a "bigot" element. The best way to "protect" your neighborhood is to be present! Be outside gardening, doing yard work, playing music on the porch, training your dog, playing catch with the kids etc. Next Dorks thrive on suspicion, not being good neighbors. Don't join these groups
Sometimes though you find some good like minded neighbors who can come together for good causes like helping neighbors who are worthy of being helped. I mow a sweet 82 year old widows grass 1 x every 3 months and other neighbors pick up other times. Wouldn't of met her if a different neighbor wasn't bitching about her weeds and her quick need to call code enforcement instead of just checking to see if she was okay or needed something. That's everybody's inclination call the police call code enforcement rather than just knocking and saying hey is it all good. If there are delinquent Butthead then that's one thing but if they're not then they deserve the respect in the decency for people to check on them that's my opinion
They also get listed by the police department as a nuisance, enough calls & law enforcement can evict you & confiscate your home for being the problem. 4 years ago one of our neighbor's lost their home for that & my aunt also lost her job as a dispatcher at the sheriff's department for using her position to harass members of her family through other agencies. It It is actually a crime to use law enforcement, child services, animal control, social security or public aid to harass people. You make enough bogus calls & you'll be the one going to jail.
Or you will be the little boy/girl who cried wolf too many times and when the wolf does show up, the lumber jacks won’t be coming to fight off the wolf.
This whole time I thought it was asshole neighbors that Don’t take care of the property that were dropping my property rates… turns out it’s Karen and her damn phone!!!
@Adam Johnson As explained in the Declaration of Independence, governments are instituted to protect property rights. I may disagree with the value the government places on my property and the rate at which it is taxed. However the money is used to protect my legal rights and title to the property from others.
@@shawnr771 Hey Shawn. Apparently adam johnson is john smith in different clothes. Daniel & others have noticed some serious similarities, and it is a only months old account. (It's regurgitating the same arguments, whether or not it is.) Reply to it or not, your call. Just wanted to let you know.
@Adam Johnson Who do you think enforces the titles and your legal rights in court? When the police are called because of a break in and theft. They are responding to enforce your right to own property and not have it stolen or vandalized. The title is also the legal document used in court against squatters. A large majority of court cases in the US are specifically about property rights. Be those cases about physical or intellectual property such as patents or copyrights.
I keep getting this bearded guy spouting his wisdom on my computer, I'm calling the cops. . . . They said to switch to another video . . . I told them he makes a lot of sense . . . now they are watching too.
I think I may be getting wiser. B cause when you were describing the issue I too thought about making the property value argument for moral reasons. Mine was still rough around the edges but it's nice to see.
Typically I find those types who stick there noise (Sic) into everyone else's business are actually scared of life. It terrifies them they have little to now control over everything, and so they lash out like a feral animal at everything.
A woman in my town called the police several times because "people were waking down her street late at night". She had recently bought her house. She lived 50 yards from the dorms of a college campus. She insisted that these ADULTS had no right to leave campus. The police finally told her that if she called again, she'd face charges.
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Jane Jacobs who wrote a book "The Death and Life Of Great American Cities"; wrote awesome books about how cities work best and haven't taken her advice on how to plan, cities. One is that when you have low income housing mixed into the higher income housing that you don't have separation of incomes in housing she stated these are the most productive and safe cities. Her books are Timeless and filled with how city planning effects national economies and the spirit of our soul of creativity and diversity thrives for most peoples. In other words makes life more interesting instead boring monopolies raging war against our spirits of belonging and thriving.
A lot of people who are into leaning on police unnecessarily for security in relatively peaceful situations often have misconceptions about police and what they do. They're thinking that their police department employs a bunch of Sam Spades and Sherlock Holmses and is about investigating and sleuthing all the time, and that their officers are as skilled as McGuyver or Batman, or something. They think that when they make a call, and the police take down a "report", that there's somebody at headquarters diligently spending their days investigating it. If things only DID work that way...
Only if you can quickly delineate what is, in fact, illegal. Way too many people are thinking that if they personally don't like or agree with something...it MUST be illegal and therefore calling police is justified and warranted.
Once, my husband was covering the newspaper route for someone else, and was checking out the route, before he started. Somebody called the law on the strange man with a clipboard🙄
I moved to a nice neighborhood, and got a next door invite in the mail. Got on... now normally those brazen enough to call black people colored around here are old. Nah. She was in her 20s. I was kicked out of the app for reporting her to the app developers. Wasn't hard to find out the new person flagged her.
So I don't plan on moving. Will a drop in property value lower my property tax, 🤔 Every few years I get a mailer asking me to join some sort of neighborhood group. For some reason it triggers a nosy neighbor, Karen vibe that turns me off.
I only check our nextdoor app occasionally due to dogs loose in the neighborhood...it has helped get several pets back to their owners. Or our municipality will notify us that leaf pick-up etc is going to be in our area on certain days. Otherwise, I don't bother with it.
@@antiquegirl6505 I've seen one like that which is dog/cat missing or can anyone recommend a plumber type of thing. Some people moving into the area just saying 'hi'. Makes sense without nosy troublemakers.
I live in an area where we have a lot of petty crimes, theft mostly -- porch pirates and catalytic converters thefts, as well as more serious ones like break-ins and home invasions. Most homeowners in our area have security cameras, like Ring, etc. and they monitor them like hawks. A majority of the people who are committing these crimes are part of larger crime rings in our state and don't live in our neighborhood; they come from nearby cities to commit their crimes so they're not really familiar faces to us. As a result now, whenever anyone sees an unfamiliar car driving slowly down the street or parked in front of their house they automatically assume they're up to no good, post pictures of the cars and license plate numbers on NextDoor and call the police to file a report (since the police are always telling us, "If you see something, say something."). If someone takes a picture of their house it's because they're casing them for a future crime. They never think maybe the person likes the color or style or some feature and they want a picture of it for ideas for their own house; or maybe they grew up in your house and are back in the area for a nostalgia photo opp -- I did that about 20 years ago with the house I grew up in, I can only imagine the stink-eye I would get if I tried to do that now! And anyone trying to inject a little common sense into the conversations are accused of being "soft on crime" and of being "part of the problem." *sigh*
I didn't know you knew my neighbor 👀 But on a serious note, these are literally Gestapo tactics. There were so few of them but they had everyone so paranoid of one another it was effective control.
You can also go the route of making them aware that creating reports that lead to no crime found is equivalent to false reporting. If they do it enough times, they can get slapped with a misdemeanor in most states for false reporting. Which... Actually means... they are the ones creating crime in their neighborhood.
I get the impression that appealing to peoples' "better nature" is a waste of time; if they were (to ridiculously over-simplify it) good people, they probably wouldn't be doing the bad thing in the first place, so pointing out that what they're doing is morally wrong is meaningless, if not reinforcement (in their twisted view) to keep doing the bad thing. Consequences, especially financial ones, are apparently the best possible detractor for bad behavior.
Absolutely. A stranger knocked on my door today. This car turned into my driveway. This car was sitting in my cul de sac. Somebody came to my house claiming to sell home security systems. But my favorite was "There's an owl on my deck. Who can I call?"
very useful distinction between 'crime' and 'crime rates.' I used to live in a semi rural neighborhood that behaved like this on NextDoor. While we did have occasional break ins, the watchdogs wanted every unknown car investigated. I'm sure they didnt realize the impact.
Honestly, this perspective that Beau introduced was just as stupid as Trump’s perspective that Covid cases were only going up because they were being reported on. Beau fumbled that one, tried to pick it back up but dropped it in mud.
As someone who is watching the housing prices rapidly go out of reach for myself and a large part of the local population, I'm all for seeing property values get run down by the same people who artificially drove them up in the first place.
My neighbors call the cops on us because a west wind blows leaves into their yard. They cut down my disabled neighbors trees without her permission. We live across from a park and in a heavily wooded area. No matter which way the wind blows, they get leaves. But it's our fault. The cops laughed at them at first, now I guess it's not worth their time.
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This video takes me back to another one of yours. You were attempting to deliver supplies after a hurricane to different neighborhoods. The reaction of the people(diversity) and knowledge of their neighborhood was truly indicative of human nature....and relevant to this video.
I got pulled over by a cop as I was driving my Mini Horse around town. First thing he said was "I haven't seen anything like that since I left home" so I asked where home was. He said India and I said "cool!" and went about my business. Now he waves every time he sees me, but I bet we ended up on some Ring Cameras and gossip apps. (I don't live where horses are allowed).
I've seen this on Nextdoor in my area. Cautioning the offenders about the effect on property values as well as the repercussions of filing false reports might be helpful. Including but not limited to getting sued for harassment.
Mmhm. Extreme concentrations of wealth will inevitably lead to government capture by that wealth, and extreme concentration of wealth into the hands of the few is what capitalism _does._ So capitalism is inherently corrosive to democracy.
@Adam Johnson Give me a break; The "MOB Boss" was Trump as president! The majority of people want good things that are reasonable. Your generalized un-defined comment doesn't mean anything!
My old man used to say, " There's a lot of people that run around with loaded guns pointed at there feet, and they don't listen to the ones that are already missing toes." Sadly they never learn.
Here's another analogy that has worked for me in certain situations. Nobody wants ants in their yard, right Pops? But the reality is were ok with some so long as they're not making mounds. You're not trying to achieve literal zero.
These kinds of people are so damn evil... 😒 I can say this much, though: Moral stances or arguments don't work on people without morals. Beau took the right approach here.
@Adam Johnson the point was that in most cases a crime wasn’t actually being committed or even thought about. I’ve seen the effects of Nextdoor harassment. It’s nasty and can ruin lives.
@Adam Johnson Whether or not to report a crime isn't the topic of discussion here. The topic of discussion concerns people who sick the cops on random people minding their business. Those kinds of people are straight up evil. And are free from silly little things like Morality, Decency, or Respect for other people not a part of their own group. 🙃
Well, the first two minutes of this explains what was once inexplicable. Our neighbors did exactly what you describe, to the point that we hired a lawyer and filed a no-contact order. Unfortunately, some people will not listen to reason, moral, financial, or any other kind. This is a sound argument, but only if the harassing party is reasonable. Some people will not put even self-interest above meanness and spite.
When my daughter lived in the Austin area she had a neighbor that would periodically go outside and fire off a couple rounds for "no reason". He said that he did if to keep the rent stable in the neighborhood. :)
OK, Adam. Pick a Conservative argument, ANY argument, and show us how it is NOT appealing to their lowest instincts. You have the advantage, you can choose whatever argument you think is the loftiest.
The people doing this don't think in terms of the long term damage that their actions have, but it is nice that you point out their short sightedness to them. Having the police around more in your neighbourhood may also infringe on the way you live ie driving un licensed off road vehicles on the road to get to trails...etc.
I stopped going to NextDoor, unless I’m getting rid of stuff, because I was so tired of all that unnecessary drama that some people seem to like to create. Love your response. Much more likely to hit home with and chill out the drama-llama’s!!
We have something like this where I live but we all just use it to let the neighbors know if we are going to be doing yard work or construction that would be loud. Or, If someone is planning to have a party that will have a number of cars, music and general party type noises. Everyone is very respectful of each other. It's also used to pass info of trash pickup date changes, public utility work, door to door solicitors, etc. Works pretty good. That is this neighborhood though. Things are different throughout the country.
When the "wrong people" start popping up in their neighborhoods, some feel compelled to pull the welcome mat away from them. It starts generating a record with that person's name as a potential perp, and from then on, the police will feel they have to continue watching that person. Such a sad testament to how this country continues to be plagued by racism and hatred.
NextDoor is one of the good idea's used for the wrong purpose. It's facebook light for negative ninnies for complaining about neighbors, selling trinkets, and making people think their opinions actually matter. 6 or so months ago crime wasn't bad in our neighborhood (on paper I mean, sure there are some negatives, but as a whole no one really cared much). Someone got the bright idea to push for MORE police presence and guess what? Now crime is the talk of the area. These people did this, those people did that, oh and please pick up your dog poo etc. Another was outraged that an older woman was charged 8k for a "standard door" which tells nobody ANYTHING about what it actually was, just the dollar amount. Could have been standard, but probably was a bit outlandish and not very "standard". So with little to no description of what the standard door is, everyone went nuts..."i paid this, we paid that" with no attention to what "this and that were" but the implication was that they overcharged w/out any description other than the dollar amount they paid. This resulted in a 200+ thread about how this company overcharged them for what they actually had done. For instance take roofing, they "overpaid" for a roof but didn't describe any of the materials or if there was structural work needed. It's absurd mob mentality that these people eat up with a spoon.
A few weeks ago, I had a strange car parked right in front of my house for about a half an hour late at night. I'd never seen this car before, I have a family, and felt worried. Ultimately, I didn't call the police, BUT I will NOT apologize for asking police to check on situations like this.
I bought my home in 1994 & I'm so thankful that my neighbors and myself keep to ourselves. They all know I'm a nurse so I've had a few knocks on my door for help for medical emergencies but other than that, we mind our business.
I have an old friend who works on computer generated actuarial data tables, and has for many years. Annual number of and rate of change, of police calls ARE factored into these calculations, and measured PER CAPITA, so a suburban or rural area is affected proportionately more than urban areas.
God, I hate this kind of shit. This has literally happened to me before (cops being called in a "fancy" neighborhood), but the funny part is I was invited to the house.🙄
It says a lot about the state of this country that you would probably succeed with a monetary argument over a moral one.
Except when it comes to politics and they vote for the people who'll take money out of your pocket instead of the Dems who are trying to put it in your pocket!!! 🤦♂🤦♀
That's the America I grew up in.
It's always been this way, though. 🤦🏾♂️😂😂
@@margaretnicol3423 keep in mind, they do it believing the opposite. "Tax and spend democrats" are all one word in their heads. Democrats do a crappy job of explaining money to the public, Republicans don't even try.
@@NWPaul72 True although even Grump said that the Dems were better with money. They miss the ''you'' from that phrase - tax you to spend on you instead of corporations!
Whenever I see people doing this kinda stuff on my local community forums I immediately start bitching about how they are wasting my god damn tax dollars by calling the cops over kids riding their skateboarding or whatever. Do you want those kids sitting at home playing video games all day or do you want them outside playing, getting exercise, and enjoying their childhood?
Yup. Let kids goof off unless they're explicitly attacking each other.
How about exercise video games? It's 2021 you cant take our games away.
Lol. I was one of those skateboarders in my youth. We would always ask the police where we could skateboard that wouldn't bother people. They never had an answer but at least a majority of them were polite. Did have one that would curse at us and got in my face one time threatening to take me in for obstructing the sidewalk.
@@nicholas4514
He would have been just as p1ssed if you were in the street. A$$holes gonna a$$, I guess...
100% of the time it's someone who rarely leaves their house.
See a strange car in the neighborhood, wave. Someone going up and down the street multiple times, ask if they need some directions, help finding a lost dog, or whatever. Being friendly is a real crime deterrence ;)
As a security guard, if I'm suspicious of someone, I may totally chat them up in a friendly, polite manner, like I don't suspect a thing.
What I'm doing is getting a really good look at them so I can provide a really good description.😁
@@grmpEqweer Yep. And any potential trouble maker knows that. Deterrence ;)
It also gives you a better sense of all the legit reasons someone might be acting a bit suspicious. Probably not a surprise to you, but for a lot of folks it is sort of a realization to find out that most other people acting a bit sus aren't actually up to no good.
Absolutely!
@@travcollier
Not necessarily.
Some criminals are really dumb enough to think they've got one over on you because you're being nice to them. BTDT.
Street criminals aren't generally the sharpest tacks in the box. (Otherwise they'd be white collar criminals, where rewards are higher and chances of prison are lower.)
@@grmpEqweer lol, Fair point
Nothing drops the value of an area than having Karens in the neighborhood.
@Adam Johnson to be fair...he said value. I would consider the value to be lessened considerably by active Karens in my neighborhood.
The property upkeep falls to the owner, I imagine not alot of criminals are forward thinking enough to maintain a household and are most likely renters. Quite a few properties I encounter on the daily are unkempt...some actually hazardous. Hard working, (60+hours/week) law abiding citizens too stressed out and exhausted ....and sometimes too old to properly maintain.
@Adam Johnson ummm have you ever watched a documentary about a criminal enterprise? Most of them live pretty lavish lifestyles. And plenty of criminals live in gated communities. They just aren't constantly on the news due to biased media and a biased country in general. People would quickly notice a pattern.
Friendly reminder; *Adam Johnson* is very likely John Smith, the regular far-right troll that came here to argue in bad faith and cowardly playing dumb when cornered (which is so easy that even my seven-year old niece could do). Better not to reply to him, or at least not directly.
@@danielr.y5261 thank you 💚
@Adam Johnson That maybe true about your average dope slanger but those supplying the dope slanger lives in lavish areas and they aren't apart of a mob or cartel but more than likely getting that dope from a mob or cartel!
Getting charged with wasting police time would suck, too.
Also, maybe, just a thought, but do you remember that time six NYPD officers fired 120 shots at some guy in a car and only hit him twice?
That's 118 bullets that went _somewhere else_ and, well, is your front wall bulletproof?
Half an inch of pine, a few inches of silicon candy floss and a bit of drywall won't stop a .22 short, never mind a 9 x 19 mm.
Most cops use 9 mm semiautomatics, loaded with hollowpoint rounds, as their duty weapons here in Freedomland.
Hollowpoints don't penetrate walls as effectively as other rounds.
...I don't currently own a firearm, but when I did I had hollowpoint rounds.
@@grmpEqweer yeahhhhhh but that is *if* they're doing a justifiable amount of shooting, which cops are not known for. you get four cops on a scene and that's potentially between 80 - *200* bullets.
@@grmpEqweer Most cops these days use 40 caliber or 10 mm since 9 mm just aren't deadly enough for them.
I don't remember the details but that reminds me of a house being raided a while ago and the neighbors complaining of the holes in their walls where the bullets had gone through.
@@johnunderwood43
Oh. Groan. Figures.
I joined NextDoor when the pandemic hit. I used to work as a nurse, and I figured people may need help. Within a week or so, I deleted the app from my phone. Oh My God! I have the most racist Karens living in my neighborhood. If I didn't delete the app, I would've lost faith in humanity. I have an elderly couple who lives next door. I go over and mow their lawn every so often to keep the city off their backs. That's what being a neighbor should be about, not calling the authorities because someone is homeless.
I had a similar experience when I moved into a new neighborhood 3 years ago. Once I joined I was so disgusted by the racism, pettiness, and raging ignorance that I deleted it. Decided I didn't want to know who these folks are.
Very noble of you to help your elderly neighbors. I don't know where you live, but in my neighborhood we have mostly white families with some Asian, black, and Hispanic families. Everyone respects each other and gets along.
@@luvcheneywasalegend9168 that's not everyone's hood though.
@@Jay-ho9io True. Though, I think she and I live in the same city.
But the app did awaken you to who you’re living around. I had the same experience but decided to keep the app so as to remind me what kind of people I’m living around. Sadly, most of them are FoxNews consumers and you can see it in their texts on the app. They repeat verbatim what u hear on that so-called news channel.
I remembered hearing "If you see something, say something" right after 911 and knew right then it was going to a bad place. Here we are. People are insane morons in most circumstances.
Yep I remember that as well. It's bad enough police target people for the color of their skin, let's get everybody to do it.
Every time I get junk mail from Nextdoor it goes in the trash. No, I will not join the neighborhood gestapo
I will never forget waking up that day and seeing the crashes on TV. It felt kind of unreal in a way. Even in that state of shock, my first thoughts were how this would push the entire country even farther to the right because of the hysteria it would cause. And especially after the supreme court forced us to accept bush as president (we've had coups in the U.S. before, just never so blatant and violent as the 6th), I knew right then our already right-wing government was going to start at least one war over it.
Actually, I'm okay with that, because when I respond I can usually make everybody feel better about the situation. Of course, 99% of the time when I respond to benign situations, there is also a 'response / nothing to report' placed on the log.
Thats the argument that the neighbors all had....the "if you see something suspiscious, call the police, its better to be safe than sorry"
Just found out....I think the ACLU is suing my state for illegal searches & seizures. Gotta remember to call them up with the transcript from the court reporter to which the officer admitted to lying in his report. Hopefully it will go smoothly (hahaha, i made a funny)
So did I and I live overseas. That statement had me going "I have a very bad feeling about this."
My neighbors don't seem to notice me even if I wave. Beats nosy though.
I was on the bus once, and an old guy got on with a youngster. The old guy was say, "When I was your age, everyone knew everyone on the street, and kept an eye on what was happening. These days, I don't even know my next door neighbours' names... It is great!" 😂
My neighbors and I all wave and smile and talk about each other, but not so much to each other. They're mostly armed to the gills, I let them think I am, too. Country livin'!
👋 Hello!
You must live in the midwest lol
U got it good make up all kinds of outrageous things my hood want 2 know when u have the runs. Lol
So I was on next door app and had someone on there biching about neighbors weeds and crap they were habitual code enforcement callers for everything it turns out but my argument was its says a lot that the inclination to call on stupid stuff rather then go knock and make sure they were OK and offer help...turned out it was an elderly woman by herself lost husband a year ago and lawnmower broke and she didn't know what to do. The ones who cared helped her and I share a schedule with others and mow her grass once every 3 months for free bc it's we think that's part of being a neighbor.
The woman who was bragging about calling has been gone from app! We are glad lol! 😊
I'm a home care nurse and I can't count how many times a week I find my self driving up and down the neighborhood looking for an address or sitting in my car preparing for assignments. There are people providing essential services for the elderly in your neighborhood that are practically invisible. Don't put them out because of your bigotry.
and if you're picking up your girlfriend who is providing essential services, and you've been double parked for half an hour... admit it. I spoke to the young man. He told me nothing as to why he was double parked in front of my and my neighbors house. I didn't call the cops. But I was close.
Bigotry want involved. A lack of info was.
I hear you. I worked in homes providing services to children with ASD and have done the same thing. Can’t tell you how many times I have had people approach me and even follow me. I often felt scared and explaining myself felt like a violation of the family’s privacy.
I have passed addresses and turned around, but never drove up and down the street multiple times. But I also wouldn't have thought to call the police if someone did.
@@thomthom6268 And he needs to answer your questions _why, exactly?_ Who do you think you are to be interrogating American citizens about their comings and goings?
Also, did it occur to you that maybe he thought "Wow, this guy questioning me about my presence seems oddly confrontational and pushy. This is kind of freaking me out a little. Maybe I shouldn't tell him about my girlfriend, who is often on his street for hours at a time with only an elderly person with her"?
No, of course not, because you're obviously the main character and your need to feel like you're Magnum P.I. trumps everyone else's rights. Miss me with that "show me your papers" BS.
People rarely consider that the "law/rule of unintended consequences" is always in play.
Police often have slippery trigger fingers. I think if some Karen type person calls the cops for a totally unfounded reason like "the black kids are hanging out across the street and look suspicious" or something AND it results in someone getting killed by the cops the "Karen" should face involuntary manslaughter charges for creating the danger in the first place and I think I am being GENEROUS with the "involuntary".
What about "Boy who cried Wolf" argument? I mean it would depend on the cops stopping to respond, because "it's them again".
You beat me to it. That was the first thought that leapt to mind.
Depending on neighborhood politics, the police would respond regardless even if public safety wasn’t at threat.
I was think about calling the PD about it and see if they would talk to the neighbor.
@@kevinconrad6156 All of that would depend on how the situation looks like - with details. Police are people (going controversial for the channel - bear with me please) - they don't like being someone's dogs. But if neighbor is IDK - important person in local hospital or something like that, or donates heavily to Police - they will bear being dogs, because it's easier than the alternative.
True, and if you live in other areas, they won't respond to calls for any reason. I'm not joking. There is a huge neighborhood in East Oakland called _Sobrante Park_ that has only one way in and out. The O.P.D. keeps a patrol car parked at the entrance 24/7, but they never go inside, not even to escort the ambulances and coroners. One day my friend asked me to drive him over to his moms to pick up a few things for his new apartment (I'd never even heard of the place before then), and as we drove into what looked like an average neighborhood at first, I started noticing bullet holes in all of the walls (many of them groups of holes scattered in horizontal lines from automatic weapons), and 10 to 11 year old kids selling crack on the sidewalk. That made me wonder where the teenagers were until I noticed heads peeking over the edge of roofs.
His mom lived in a three story apartment building near the far end that had all of it's windows boarded up with plywood. Mind you this was 11am and I got the feeling none of them had ever seen a white person in that neighborhood before me. I'm a confident person and it takes a lot to actually scare me. I've even had a gun pointed at my head from six feet away before. This was in Oakland too, but it was some random white dude from the suburbs, and it's the only time anyone has ever pulled a gun on me. I still remained calm with that gun leveled at me, but Sobrante Park is one place I will never go again.
Seeing all of that was the greatest example of systemic bigotry and the harm it does that I've ever seen with my own two eyes. The police had left the all black neighborhood on it's own for so many decades, that poverty and lack of any outside support, especially not from the the police, had conspired to create a neighborhood where gangs were the only enforcement of any kind.
Luckily that friend of mine grew up in a much different area. His dad was rich, so rich he could afford lawyers to keep him from having to pay much child support for his younger brother, and not have to pay any alimony after divorcing his mom, witch is why she ended up there after they lived in the richest city in the SF East Bay: Piedmont, a city that is literally inside the city of Oakland. One of those places where you will get a ticket at 2am on a lonely road with no traffic whatsoever, just for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. This actually happened to me, and I am a very careful driver and did stop enough the car lurched to a halt. Quite the opposite, being a super wealthy almost entirely white city, from Sobrante Park.
I did however have another friend who did grow up in Sobrante Park. He moved out of there when he was 13 and started working full time, because otherwise he had two choices: join a gang, or be murdered by one of them. His life outside of that neighborhood was no picnic though. The surroundings he grew up in had made him a much different person that he otherwise would have been, and some of the ways he had adopted just to survive childhood made it very difficult for people who never even knew such places existed, to accept him.
He's a really good person, but even knowing that I was still hard pressed to not feel intimidated sometimes myself. But you know, I am more proud of him than I am of most people I've met. He overcame a severe handicap so obviously brought on by systemic bigotry, and made a good life for himself as a landscaper, and is one one of the hardest working people I've ever met. I'm very proud to have had him as my friend. ^-^
If someone calls the cops for a non-emergency, those people should be given a ticket of, say $500, for wasting police resources. That is yet another monetary motivator for those folks. Love yer show!
What about false alarms?
@EmbleerHomba If Karen calls the police and it turns out to be nonsense, as it is with most Karens, they should be fined. It sounds as if you're being purposely obtuse about my post, and the obvious abuse/misuse of dialing 911.
Whenever I call the police, I use thenon emergency # & I've learned from the Amy Cooper incident I do not mention the race, I explain the situation.
I want to agree with you; but …. police!
The assessment/reporting of whether it is a “non-emergency” call would be left to the police.
In that world as in ours “Karen/Ken gonna be alright.” 🤬
@@mljones655 Bingo!
I think neighbors being out and about, getting to know each other is best deterrent.
Not for those calling the police constantly because of racist, xenophobic or whatever beliefs they have. Close neighbors are not the only people that may drive or walk down your streets. Seeing any "others" as a potential criminal in the 1st place, or just causing harassment because of hateful beliefs, is the actual issue.
@@karenl7786 Agreed
@@karenl7786 - I used to work security. One place was an apartment building. There were people who called with bullshit complaints simply to harass other tenants.
Some people have less maturity than small children.
@@karenl7786 Still, it is a good first step.
If they recognize the car down the street as belonging to the Jones’s, they’re not gonna call the cops.
Added Bonus: If they don’t recognize the car sitting there for 5 minutes, they’ll have plenty of neighbors they can call for clarification before calling armed thugs to handle the situation.
This behavior is relatively new at this rate of occurrence. Maybe it has something to do with feeling isolated and not feeling like part of a community.
@@charliekowittmusic Good points
I have called the police twice in my life, once when I saw someone beating someone else up on the street and again when I saw someone driving while texting on the highway who almost killed people. The crazy thing is I actually felt guilty calling in the second instance because even though they were clearly putting people in harm's way, they were not in a fight, did not have a gun or a knife. I can't imagine calling the police over petty shit
No reason for you to feel guilty at all for the second one, more cars driven by more assholes, kill more people than guns and knives combined and guns and knives kill plenty.
My son has a classmate who is being buried on Monday. They haven't released the reason for the auto accident, but it suspiciously looks like texting. CALL.
If you called 911 at everything in NYC, you'd never stop calling, Louis.
A friend of mine is a cop, he told me that texting is a bigger problem than drunk driving right now.
@@woohunter1 He's not wrong
The reason these people call is for excitement and a sense of being superior to others. These people WANT to be in danger, it goes along with their sense of constantly being a victim. They LIVE to be abused. It's sad, really. The thing is, once they do get the property values lowered, they will blame it on someone else. It's ALWAYS someone else.
My neighbors recently called the sheriff on me, saying my dog is outside alone all the time without shelter or water. She's a livestock guardian dog. She has shelter, but that would make it harder for her to watch the property so she prefers to guard from a raised garden bed, exposed to the elements. We went on FB like "I personally didn't think the scenario required men with guns but apparently someone did. If anyone has any questions about any of our animals, the front door is just around the corner of the house, feel free to knock."
Two neighbourhoods in which you don't really want to live: (1) the one where the cops will never go, (2) the one where the cops go all the time.
Interesting, and very effective, approach hitting their wallets, Beau. 👍🏾
When I see episodes like this I just love my neighbors and neighborhood of 30 years that much more ❤☮
I could be on fire and my neighbors would still drive by, pretending not to notice me. I'll take that over that level of nosiness anyday
Your neighbors are good neighbors by todays standard. Live and let live is the best we can ask for these days.
Oh no, if you were on fire they'd stop to take pics that they'd hope would "go viral".
@@pharag4886 Sadly your right
luckily i live in a neighborhood where we all look out for each other. I talk with my neighbors all the time to make sure they're ok and they do the same. I would trust any one of them to watch my kids or my home if need be. Sadly thats not the case for many people though.
The purpose of NextDoor is to sow distrust, hatred and fear so that the small businesses that are NextDoor's advertising customers can sell security products, fencing, lights, etc., and to rival Facebook's political advertising business with their unique selling point of hyper localism. Good luck talking to your neighbours when they have already been poisoned against you. The various "smart" doorbell companies are trying a similar strategy on their own platforms, with an even more obvious commercial incentive towards destroying trust. Community spirit has been monetised. They control the platform on which you communicate, even to your neighbours now.
We do too. We couldn't have been given a catalog, picked out, bought and paid for, better neighbors. We love where we live. And no one around here uses that next door crap.
That doesn't mean you have good neighbors, that just mean that you aren't the target.
Same here.
@@ladywesker5307 I think Yote knows their neighbors better than you do.
Many of the comments are saying "if I had to choose, nosy neighbors, or neighbors that ignore you", and prefer the latter... well, it just makes me sad that we're talking about this.
I was watching the news about the recent tornado, and commented that it's a shame that the only time folks come together and help each other, is when disaster strikes.
Why can't we just be like that everyday 😒
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Hitting them in the pocketbook is more effective than discussion with that mindset. In addition to potentially affecting property values, every place I’ve lived has had fines for making false reports since most people call 911 rather than their local Sherriff’s or Police office even if the situation is not a true emergency.
This happened to me, sitting in my car in front of my house. Never knew who called the police or they were just cruising, but then I had to endure a sobriety test. Nosy neighbors make the worse neighbors
I've been pulled over in my own driveway before. Statistically speaking, there have to be good cops, but I've never met one who who didn't make things worse.
I was on nextdoor for about 6 months and had to stop looking at it because I was getting a really ugly picture of how bigoted my new neighbors are
I have a confession to make. I almost killed a delivery guy last week.
I have a neighbor who uses code enforcement as a weapon. She walks the neighborhood with clippers, massacring landscaping and then calling code because what she's left is ugly. She calls code on us every year, and cost us thousands complaining about our raised beds and deck we built -- long story short the county harassed us for 7 months then said we were legal to begin with -- she stopped calling code on us when we returned the favor, but she continues harassing the black neighbors.
She calls code on the Hispanic neighbors, and our Georgia boys in blue draw down on them every time they come out. So, since we have this new term, "Karen" and when the guy delivering pallets of wall block asked if the neighbors were going to be OK with it on our front lawn, I said, "Everyone is cool except that neighbor (pointing) who is the poster child for Karen."
Poor guy was taking a sip of his coffee and almost choked to death.
"That car doesn't belong here!" Aka driving whole BIPOC, I have a neighbor who does it frequently, usually around the beginning of the month when a bunch of new people have moved into our apartment complex. Even the local cops are sick if it but they come every time.
Sorry to hear that.
It'd be nice if your apartment buildings could just issue a sticker for residents, and also have designated guest parking...
That way mr/ms paranoid would have less to complain about?
...Or they could just figure out that nonwhite people rent apartments...🤦
@@grmpEqweer it takes a bit to get the stickers and they are hard to see. The funny thing is that my neighborhood is incredibly diverse. She is just an old nosy racist.
Beau, you always seem to find a well-reasoned alternative to knee jerk reactions. Thanks.
Don’t forget the economic impact of the “crime rate” on the home owners insurance. Frequently the “Frequent Flyers” who call the cops, (or HOA), are retirees who don’t have anything to keep them occupied. And, whose house is their primary asset. they are worried about it, but don’t have clue of the short and long term effect on their equity in the property.
I don't know too many people who's primary asset is not their home?
Where I live you can be fined for $750 for making frivolous 911 calls. When I see any cars or people in my neighbourhood I don't bother with it. Unless I see a person running down the street with a TV under his arm I don't care.
I have a story similar to that. A woman driving her car down my street in the wee hours ran into my neighbors car that was parked at the curb, pushing the parked vehicle onto my lawn. My neighbor came out of his house to investigate and the driver took off running, with him in pursuit. When she saw some folks outside their houses she yelled "RAPE" -- so they tackled him. The police arrived to sort things out and it didn't work to her advantage that her boyfriend was still unconscious in the wrecked truck. I believe she was ultimately charged with drunk driving and leaving the scene of an accident with injuries. My neighbor was allowed to go back into his house to try to get some more sleep. Interesting times.
With the size of TVs today if somebody is big enough to carry one under their arm.
I am going to leave them alone.
I live in a neighborhood where everyone except two of us have those door bell cams. I moved back in to my childhood home. We have no crime before they installed them. Love when one of them says, “ohhh you were working on your yard today”. No privacy.
Nextdoor has shown me how many of my neighbors are racist, and I really wish I’d never signed up for it in the first place.
I was on "nextdoor" for a month then left.
Thanks for the invite......but NO THANKS.
"Next Dork" types really are not engaged in their neighborhoods. As Beau says, they are just "nosy neighbors" at best and at worst people who want to stir up drama in their empty lives. And yes, there is often a "bigot" element.
The best way to "protect" your neighborhood is to be present! Be outside gardening, doing yard work, playing music on the porch, training your dog, playing catch with the kids etc. Next Dorks thrive on suspicion, not being good neighbors. Don't join these groups
Sometimes though you find some good like minded neighbors who can come together for good causes like helping neighbors who are worthy of being helped. I mow a sweet 82 year old widows grass 1 x every 3 months and other neighbors pick up other times. Wouldn't of met her if a different neighbor wasn't bitching about her weeds and her quick need to call code enforcement instead of just checking to see if she was okay or needed something. That's everybody's inclination call the police call code enforcement rather than just knocking and saying hey is it all good. If there are delinquent Butthead then that's one thing but if they're not then they deserve the respect in the decency for people to check on them that's my opinion
please stop making all that noise. Some of us have jobs and would like to have a little nap in between shifts.
@@brianbenoit6883 none of that inherently makes much noise
I would definitely like to see "false reporting" enforced
Suspicious activity is not a crime
They also get listed by the police department as a nuisance, enough calls & law enforcement can evict you & confiscate your home for being the problem. 4 years ago one of our neighbor's lost their home for that & my aunt also lost her job as a dispatcher at the sheriff's department for using her position to harass members of her family through other agencies. It It is actually a crime to use law enforcement, child services, animal control, social security or public aid to harass people. You make enough bogus calls & you'll be the one going to jail.
Or you will be the little boy/girl who cried wolf too many times and when the wolf does show up, the lumber jacks won’t be coming to fight off the wolf.
Fun fact: Nobody likes a snitch. It's pretty much a universal truth, and it doesn't matter which side of the law you frequent.
This whole time I thought it was asshole neighbors that Don’t take care of the property that were dropping my property rates… turns out it’s Karen and her damn phone!!!
@Adam Johnson But the guy down the way with eyesore property keeps my taxes down.
@Adam Johnson As explained in the Declaration of Independence, governments are instituted to protect property rights.
I may disagree with the value the government places on my property and the rate at which it is taxed.
However the money is used to protect my legal rights and title to the property from others.
@@shawnr771 Hey Shawn. Apparently adam johnson is john smith in different clothes. Daniel & others have noticed some serious similarities, and it is a only months old account.
(It's regurgitating the same arguments, whether or not it is.)
Reply to it or not, your call. Just wanted to let you know.
Aaaaand what's even better is that It acts just like johnny, when you start warning other people about it.
@Adam Johnson Who do you think enforces the titles and your legal rights in court?
When the police are called because of a break in and theft.
They are responding to enforce your right to own property and not have it stolen or vandalized.
The title is also the legal document used in court against squatters.
A large majority of court cases in the US are specifically about property rights.
Be those cases about physical or intellectual property such as patents or copyrights.
I'd love to share this on my next door app.. I see these people all the time. But I'd be worried that some of them might actually snap.
I keep getting this bearded guy spouting his wisdom on my computer, I'm calling the cops. . . . They said to switch to another video . . . I told them he makes a lot of sense . . . now they are watching too.
When moral arguments don't work appeal to someone's selfishness. It's sad how effective that can be.
I think I may be getting wiser. B cause when you were describing the issue I too thought about making the property value argument for moral reasons. Mine was still rough around the edges but it's nice to see.
They want a drama where they're the hero, is my best guess.
"Did you exchange, a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?" Pink Floyd.
Typically I find those types who stick there noise (Sic) into everyone else's business are actually scared of life. It terrifies them they have little to now control over everything, and so they lash out like a feral animal at everything.
Another benefit of living in a hole in the woods, no nosy neighbors
A woman in my town called the police several times because "people were waking down her street late at night". She had recently bought her house. She lived 50 yards from the dorms of a college campus. She insisted that these ADULTS had no right to leave campus. The police finally told her that if she called again, she'd face charges.
Thanks for the very interesting thought
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BEAU DOWNS / 1st RACE/ 12 DEC 2021
NATIONAL DING-A-LING DAY CELEBRATION ALLOWANCE
5 13/15ths Furlongs / Ding-a-lings and Ding-a-longs / 18-yo and up (no ID required)
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RESULTS:
Win: Kurt Pearson 22.50 / 7.20 / 4.40
Place: Pogue Mahone 3.60 / 2.80
Show: Dorice Tinto 4.20
Nancy Stevens finished 4th.
Also ran: John Wall, Lucien Todd, e911disp, Ali
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$2 Exacta paid 46.00; $1 Quinella -- 19.80
$1 Trifecta -- 287.70;
$1 Superfecta paid 1228.40.
Winning tickets may be exchanged for Daily Double entries prior to the next race.
Thank you for your attendance and participation! 😁
I was going to sell some furniture on one of those apps and quickly realized it was just nosy neighbors reporting people or complaining about people.
Howdy there, Beau!
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Yeah I want nothing to do with that Snitch-Ass-Karren app. FB keeps pushing it on me, and it's just like; get dafuq out of here with that.
yeah
Nextdoor is the FB for neighbors
Jane Jacobs who wrote a book "The Death and Life Of Great American Cities"; wrote awesome books about how cities work best and haven't taken her advice on how to plan, cities. One is that when you have low income housing mixed into the higher income housing that you don't have separation of incomes in housing she stated these are the most productive and safe cities. Her books are Timeless and filled with how city planning effects national economies and the spirit of our soul of creativity and diversity thrives for most peoples. In other words makes life more interesting instead boring monopolies raging war against our spirits of belonging and thriving.
A lot of people who are into leaning on police unnecessarily for security in relatively peaceful situations often have misconceptions about police and what they do. They're thinking that their police department employs a bunch of Sam Spades and Sherlock Holmses and is about investigating and sleuthing all the time, and that their officers are as skilled as McGuyver or Batman, or something. They think that when they make a call, and the police take down a "report", that there's somebody at headquarters diligently spending their days investigating it. If things only DID work that way...
Live and Let Live unless there is a preponderance of evidence that a crime is actually in progress/was committed.
Only if you can quickly delineate what is, in fact, illegal. Way too many people are thinking that if they personally don't like or agree with something...it MUST be illegal and therefore calling police is justified and warranted.
Once, my husband was covering the newspaper route for someone else, and was checking out the route, before he started.
Somebody called the law on the strange man with a clipboard🙄
I moved to a nice neighborhood, and got a next door invite in the mail. Got on... now normally those brazen enough to call black people colored around here are old. Nah. She was in her 20s. I was kicked out of the app for reporting her to the app developers. Wasn't hard to find out the new person flagged her.
So I don't plan on moving. Will a drop in property value lower my property tax, 🤔
Every few years I get a mailer asking me to join some sort of neighborhood group. For some reason it triggers a nosy neighbor, Karen vibe that turns me off.
I got on the nextdoor app once. Total gossip place. I saw a guy filming and harassing homeless people on the street and posting it. So sad.
6 months from now he could be that guy on the street. They'll never learn.
I totally agree with both of you. Keyboard warriors say/do anything without consequences.
I only check our nextdoor app occasionally due to dogs loose in the neighborhood...it has helped get several pets back to their owners. Or our municipality will notify us that leaf pick-up etc is going to be in our area on certain days. Otherwise, I don't bother with it.
@@antiquegirl6505 we have a Facebook page for lost pets. I wont go back to that app ever.
@@antiquegirl6505 I've seen one like that which is dog/cat missing or can anyone recommend a plumber type of thing. Some people moving into the area just saying 'hi'. Makes sense without nosy troublemakers.
I live in an area where we have a lot of petty crimes, theft mostly -- porch pirates and catalytic converters thefts, as well as more serious ones like break-ins and home invasions. Most homeowners in our area have security cameras, like Ring, etc. and they monitor them like hawks. A majority of the people who are committing these crimes are part of larger crime rings in our state and don't live in our neighborhood; they come from nearby cities to commit their crimes so they're not really familiar faces to us. As a result now, whenever anyone sees an unfamiliar car driving slowly down the street or parked in front of their house they automatically assume they're up to no good, post pictures of the cars and license plate numbers on NextDoor and call the police to file a report (since the police are always telling us, "If you see something, say something."). If someone takes a picture of their house it's because they're casing them for a future crime. They never think maybe the person likes the color or style or some feature and they want a picture of it for ideas for their own house; or maybe they grew up in your house and are back in the area for a nostalgia photo opp -- I did that about 20 years ago with the house I grew up in, I can only imagine the stink-eye I would get if I tried to do that now! And anyone trying to inject a little common sense into the conversations are accused of being "soft on crime" and of being "part of the problem." *sigh*
I didn't know you knew my neighbor 👀
But on a serious note, these are literally Gestapo tactics. There were so few of them but they had everyone so paranoid of one another it was effective control.
I am suffering with exactly the same situation. It sucks.
these types of people never outgrew their Underoos
and they like to prove it on the regular!
Beau, once again I'd like to thank you for an island of common sense and hope in this unraveling world of ours.
You can also go the route of making them aware that creating reports that lead to no crime found is equivalent to false reporting. If they do it enough times, they can get slapped with a misdemeanor in most states for false reporting. Which... Actually means... they are the ones creating crime in their neighborhood.
I get the impression that appealing to peoples' "better nature" is a waste of time; if they were (to ridiculously over-simplify it) good people, they probably wouldn't be doing the bad thing in the first place, so pointing out that what they're doing is morally wrong is meaningless, if not reinforcement (in their twisted view) to keep doing the bad thing.
Consequences, especially financial ones, are apparently the best possible detractor for bad behavior.
Absolutely. A stranger knocked on my door today. This car turned into my driveway. This car was sitting in my cul de sac. Somebody came to my house claiming to sell home security systems. But my favorite was "There's an owl on my deck. Who can I call?"
@hognoxious More like a horned owl. I had one in my house for a while, long long ago. Owl are great.
very useful distinction between 'crime' and 'crime rates.' I used to live in a semi rural neighborhood that behaved like this on NextDoor. While we did have occasional break ins, the watchdogs wanted every unknown car investigated. I'm sure they didnt realize the impact.
Honestly, this perspective that Beau introduced was just as stupid as Trump’s perspective that Covid cases were only going up because they were being reported on. Beau fumbled that one, tried to pick it back up but dropped it in mud.
This is absolutely the BEST advice for handling this situation I've EVER heard.
As someone who is watching the housing prices rapidly go out of reach for myself and a large part of the local population, I'm all for seeing property values get run down by the same people who artificially drove them up in the first place.
My neighbors call the cops on us because a west wind blows leaves into their yard. They cut down my disabled neighbors trees without her permission. We live across from a park and in a heavily wooded area. No matter which way the wind blows, they get leaves. But it's our fault. The cops laughed at them at first, now I guess it's not worth their time.
I love the way you think out of the box like this
Love the shirt.
BEAU DOWNS / 1st RACE/ 12 DEC 2021
NATIONAL DING-A-LING DAY CELEBRATION ALLOWANCE
5 13/15ths Furlongs / Ding-a-lings and Ding-a-longs / 18-yo and up (no ID required)
-------------------------
RESULTS:
Win: Kurt Pearson 22.50 / 7.20 / 4.40
Place: Pogue Mahone 3.60 / 2.80
Show: Dorice Tinto 4.20
Nancy Stevens finished 4th.
Also ran: John Wall, Lucien Todd, e911disp, Ali
-------------------------
$2 Exacta paid 46.00; $1 Quinella -- 19.80
$1 Trifecta -- 287.70;
$1 Superfecta paid 1228.40.
Winning tickets may be exchanged for Daily Double entries prior to the next race.
Thank you for your attendance and participation! 😁
This video takes me back to another one of yours. You were attempting to deliver supplies after a hurricane to different neighborhoods. The reaction of the people(diversity) and knowledge of their neighborhood was truly indicative of human nature....and relevant to this video.
I got pulled over by a cop as I was driving my Mini Horse around town. First thing he said was "I haven't seen anything like that since I left home" so I asked where home was. He said India and I said "cool!" and went about my business. Now he waves every time he sees me, but I bet we ended up on some Ring Cameras and gossip apps. (I don't live where horses are allowed).
I've seen this on Nextdoor in my area. Cautioning the offenders about the effect on property values as well as the repercussions of filing false reports might be helpful. Including but not limited to getting sued for harassment.
*It's pretty simple... as the RICH GOT RICHER our Democracy became Weaker!*
Mmhm. Extreme concentrations of wealth will inevitably lead to government capture by that wealth, and extreme concentration of wealth into the hands of the few is what capitalism _does._
So capitalism is inherently corrosive to democracy.
@Adam Johnson Give me a break; The "MOB Boss" was Trump as president! The majority of people want good things that are reasonable.
Your generalized un-defined comment doesn't mean anything!
My nosdy neighbor long ago one time got an up close face full of my gun for peeking in my window.....and I don't mean a weapon
My old man used to say, " There's a lot of people that run around with loaded guns pointed at there feet, and they don't listen to the ones that are already missing toes." Sadly they never learn.
Here's another analogy that has worked for me in certain situations.
Nobody wants ants in their yard, right Pops? But the reality is were ok with some so long as they're not making mounds. You're not trying to achieve literal zero.
Thank you Beau! I'm going to use the crap out of this! "I appreciate your willingness to tank your property value in defense of your neighbors"
These kinds of people are so damn evil... 😒
I can say this much, though:
Moral stances or arguments don't work on people without morals. Beau took the right approach here.
@Adam Johnson did you literally just comment without actually watching the video?
@Adam Johnson the point was that in most cases a crime wasn’t actually being committed or even thought about.
I’ve seen the effects of Nextdoor harassment. It’s nasty and can ruin lives.
@Adam Johnson
Whether or not to report a crime isn't the topic of discussion here.
The topic of discussion concerns people who sick the cops on random people minding their business.
Those kinds of people are straight up evil. And are free from silly little things like Morality, Decency, or Respect for other people not a part of their own group. 🙃
@Adam Johnson
That still has nothing to do with the topic. You might be posting under the wrong video.
@Adam Johnson
Nope. It isn't. Not in this video. 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Well, the first two minutes of this explains what was once inexplicable. Our neighbors did exactly what you describe, to the point that we hired a lawyer and filed a no-contact order. Unfortunately, some people will not listen to reason, moral, financial, or any other kind. This is a sound argument, but only if the harassing party is reasonable. Some people will not put even self-interest above meanness and spite.
Correct and on point, Good Sir!
In my life, I have learned that far TOO OFTEN... People create their own misery.
Brilliant ideas. Thanks.
Amen Beau....every little thing is reported ....they always have me peeping through the blinds.
When my daughter lived in the Austin area she had a neighbor that would periodically go outside and fire off a couple rounds for "no reason". He said that he did if to keep the rent stable in the neighborhood. :)
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I was on it for a few days, and that is exactly what's on there. Petty people looking for attention.
One must always appeal to the lowest instincts of conservatives. That's what the GOP does so succesfully.
Half way back to being primitive animals. Conservatives are ridiculous.
fear is control... that is the law
@Adam Johnson
Yet, it's also an accurate, functional, dependable, and replicable approach as well.
Go figure.
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OK, Adam. Pick a Conservative argument, ANY argument, and show us how it is NOT appealing to their lowest instincts. You have the advantage, you can choose whatever argument you think is the loftiest.
@@olmostgudinaf8100 ....and with that, Adam Johnson disappeared from the discussion......
I just love the way you think - on pretty much every topic: smart + empathetic + effective!
The people doing this don't think in terms of the long term damage that their actions have, but it is nice that you point out their short sightedness to them. Having the police around more in your neighbourhood may also infringe on the way you live ie driving un licensed off road vehicles on the road to get to trails...etc.
I stopped going to NextDoor, unless I’m getting rid of stuff, because I was so tired of all that unnecessary drama that some people seem to like to create.
Love your response. Much more likely to hit home with and chill out the drama-llama’s!!
We have something like this where I live but we all just use it to let the neighbors know if we are going to be doing yard work or construction that would be loud. Or, If someone is planning to have a party that will have a number of cars, music and general party type noises. Everyone is very respectful of each other. It's also used to pass info of trash pickup date changes, public utility work, door to door solicitors, etc. Works pretty good. That is this neighborhood though. Things are different throughout the country.
When the "wrong people" start popping up in their neighborhoods, some feel compelled to pull the welcome mat away from them. It starts generating a record with that person's name as a potential perp, and from then on, the police will feel they have to continue watching that person. Such a sad testament to how this country continues to be plagued by racism and hatred.
NextDoor is one of the good idea's used for the wrong purpose. It's facebook light for negative ninnies for complaining about neighbors, selling trinkets, and making people think their opinions actually matter. 6 or so months ago crime wasn't bad in our neighborhood (on paper I mean, sure there are some negatives, but as a whole no one really cared much). Someone got the bright idea to push for MORE police presence and guess what? Now crime is the talk of the area. These people did this, those people did that, oh and please pick up your dog poo etc.
Another was outraged that an older woman was charged 8k for a "standard door" which tells nobody ANYTHING about what it actually was, just the dollar amount. Could have been standard, but probably was a bit outlandish and not very "standard". So with little to no description of what the standard door is, everyone went nuts..."i paid this, we paid that" with no attention to what "this and that were" but the implication was that they overcharged w/out any description other than the dollar amount they paid.
This resulted in a 200+ thread about how this company overcharged them for what they actually had done. For instance take roofing, they "overpaid" for a roof but didn't describe any of the materials or if there was structural work needed. It's absurd mob mentality that these people eat up with a spoon.
A few weeks ago, I had a strange car parked right in front of my house for about a half an hour late at night. I'd never seen this car before, I have a family, and felt worried. Ultimately, I didn't call the police, BUT I will NOT apologize for asking police to check on situations like this.
I only have one question ... How big is the closet that holds all your T-shirts?
"Closet"? I think the correct term is "warehouse" ... !
I bought my home in 1994 & I'm so thankful that my neighbors and myself keep to ourselves. They all know I'm a nurse so I've had a few knocks on my door for help for medical emergencies but other than that, we mind our business.
Can't appeal to their heart, appeal to their greed, grand idea.
I have an old friend who works on computer generated actuarial data tables, and has for many years. Annual number of and rate of change, of police calls ARE factored into these calculations, and measured PER CAPITA, so a suburban or rural area is affected proportionately more than urban areas.
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God, I hate this kind of shit. This has literally happened to me before (cops being called in a "fancy" neighborhood), but the funny part is I was invited to the house.🙄
People who do this really need to get a hobby. Take up meditation, start writing a book, anything, really.