Dropping Markelle and healing JI has improved significantly the availability of players, now we w8 improvements on shooting , possibly when matters. Roster is well filled
Im okay with Jalen making $30 million per year. I was a bit worried at first because we have AB, Jett and Tristan that we’re eventually going to have to take care of if they pan out, but we have plenty of contracts that we can pivot from in a few years (Cole, Mo, Goga, KCP, Gary).
Idk if we are paying Jalen 30 million :/ he has a excellent defender. I just don’t think he’s efficient enough on the offensive end to meet markets end. This is like a prove you just like Markelle Fultz two years ago. But I think suggs prevails.
Wagner 7 for 35 from 3 point range in the Olympics. He was a force during the games but man he needs to get it figured out. If defenses start disrespecting him beyond the arc that spells trouble for the entire offense. He just needs to keep firing them up until he gets back in rhythm because without Franz the Magic go nowhere.
LOL Anthony Black managed to log a -9 plus minus over 172 minutes on a 9 game winning streak. MAYBE Black is having a great camp because he plays with Cole and MAYBE they lock you all out of practice so you can't watch Cole cooking the starters. Year after year you guys seem to develop beer goggles for anyone on the bench not named Cole as a way to try and explain why the bench unit has been better than the starters over the last two regular seasons.
I definitely agree with the sports gambling advertising thing, something about this give me a weird vibe in terms of the effectiveness to the pure enjoyment of how we view our team, like pls NBA keep these agendas out of the Magic’s territory we want a purely natural view/coverage of the game.
Box plus minus against all playoff and play in opponents over the last 2 regular seasons. +/- Cole 0 40 wins - 53 losses Franz -94 40 wins - 55 losses Suggs -199 33 wins - 47 losses Carter -202 26 wins - 44 losses Paolo -376 41wins - 59 losses Best player on a bench unit that CARRIED you to your regular season success over the last 2 seasons.
@@dootdadoMosley talking about cole +\-? Lets see ill go by playoff games. Im not trying to be mean! I just care that my team competes at the highest level in the NBA! 1. -5+\- 4pts 2.-13+\- Opts 3. +16+\- 10pts (solid) 4. +15+\- 3pts 5. -14+\- 2 points 6. +6 +\- 9 points 7. +8 +\- 8pts
So a plus contributor in 4 games in a series which you only won 3? Which is more than can be said for Franz and the same as can be said for Jalen and Paolo? Not to mention the highest plus minus for anyone on the team in game 7 and one of only two players who was not a minus. Up by 6 when he comes in the game and up by 17 when he leaves just 5 minutes and 45 seconds later. Not to mention that you don't even see a game 7 unless Cole wins you game 6 (according to Franz). Then sits there on the bench as your doot dado coach fumbles the season away in an epic collapse? Not seeing the court again until you're down 8 and gassed from chasing the ball back and forth in a 15 point quarter which Cole did not see the floor? 15 point quarter in which your coach doesn't call a timeout until 2 minutes and 44 seconds left? LOL nobody can be that stupid he had to have thrown the game. It was a nice attempt on your part but Jalen and Franz missed as many 3's in game 7 as Cole Anthony attempted in the entire series and missed more shots in game 7 alone than Cole Anthony missed in the entire series. Try again.
@@dootdadoMosley what are you doing bringing Franz into this? Im talking about cole. As a player, as bis skills, as a defender, AS A PLAYER. im saying he is not a great player! He can be GOOD but you are trying to prove a C tier bench player was some sort of game changer? You have no idea what you are saying. I love Cole Anthony. He is a great dude. Much better person than most guys in the NBA. He signed one of my rookie cards at dicks sporting goods. He let me give him a hug and i wished him goodluck! Because thats what he will need. Unfortunately he is an undersized guard with minimal scope on the defensive end. He is awesome guy but he isn’t a good player. He can have good games tho. Its the truth and you need to not let your fandom bias skew your logic.
I can tell that you are a low IQ individual because you did not present any evidence for the things you just said. BTW your opponents shot a lower field goal percentage when Cole Anthony was the closest defender than when Jalen Suggs was the closest defender last year. It's not just Franz, Paolo isn't safe either. Not as long as your doot dado coach is holding back a James Harden level offensive talent while forcing us to watch the most mind numbingly bad offensive basketball on a team that has the personnel to play like the Warriors. All because he has a point to prove and gets wet for defenseketball and Chauncey Billups and the 03 Pistons. Dude is going to get himself fired trying to prove he can win big games without Cole. My theory is that most of you don't even watch the starters play and you're just on twitter and reddit glazing up this head coach and starting lineup so you don't see how awful it is and then you don't even put your phone down until you hear the crowd audibly gasp at some filthy disgusting move Cole pulled off. Which is why he gets scapegoated for every loss because he's the only one you actually watched. Your teams improvement has come almost entirely from an improved bench unit and your starters are just now catching up. In the 2023-24 season the Orlando Magic scored 9,058 points which is 511 points more than they scored in 2021-22 with just 8,547. However, the 2023-24 bench outscored the 2021-22 bench by 337 points leaving the 12 players who started in 2023-24 responsible for just a 174 point improvement over the 17 different players who started games in 2021-22. Jalen is only scoring .8 more points at 22 with Paolo than he did at 20 with Cole. Franz is only scoring 4.5 more points on 3 more attempts at 22 than he did at 20 with Cole. Wendell has the best season of his career at 22 with Cole and has now regressed back to Bulls Carter with Paolo at 24. Gary had the best year of his Magic career with Cole. In the 2021-22 season age 21 Cole Anthony led the Magic in scoring 23 times while attempting 20 or more field goals in 7 games. In the 2023-24 season age 21 Paolo Banchero led the Magic in scoring 44 times while attempting 20 or more field goals in a whopping 26 games. In the 2021-22 season age 21 Cole Anthony led the Magic in assists 37 times while playing more than 30 minutes in 47 games In the 2023-24 season age 21 Paolo Banchero led the Magic in assists 41 times while playing more than 30 minutes in 74 games So if we're labeling Cole Anthony an inefficient shot chucker who doesn't make his teammates better after his age 21 season then what does that make Paolo today? Or, is the gap in talent between Cole Anthony and Markelle Fultz really just that much wider than the gap in talent between Paolo Banchero and Mo Bamba?
Kevin, my brother…PLEASE STOP 🛑 with the gentle throwing of Jonathan under the bus 🚌 on every single intro of the “Monday” show. It’s cutting through him. I can see it in his eyes 👀 every time you do it 😂. We already know that you’re recording on Sunday. NOTHING BUT LOVE ❤️. -Calvin
@@blackonblacklove5484 with all due respect, I have no idea what you’re talking about brother. It’s all love. Thanks so much for taking your time to listen to the show! -Jonathan
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Im okay with Jalen making $30 million per year. I was a bit worried at first because we have AB, Jett and Tristan that we’re eventually going to have to take care of if they pan out, but we have plenty of contracts that we can pivot from in a few years (Cole, Mo, Goga, KCP, Gary).
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Idk if we are paying Jalen 30 million :/ he has a excellent defender. I just don’t think he’s efficient enough on the offensive end to meet markets end. This is like a prove you just like Markelle Fultz two years ago. But I think suggs prevails.
Wagner 7 for 35 from 3 point range in the Olympics. He was a force during the games but man he needs to get it figured out. If defenses start disrespecting him beyond the arc that spells trouble for the entire offense. He just needs to keep firing them up until he gets back in rhythm because without Franz the Magic go nowhere.
I'm worried about our shooting overall. I'm afraid we are what we are, which is a bad shooting team. I hope I'm wrong
LOL Anthony Black managed to log a -9 plus minus over 172 minutes on a 9 game winning streak. MAYBE Black is having a great camp because he plays with Cole and MAYBE they lock you all out of practice so you can't watch Cole cooking the starters.
Year after year you guys seem to develop beer goggles for anyone on the bench not named Cole as a way to try and explain why the bench unit has been better than the starters over the last two regular seasons.
Suggs, KCP, Paolo, Franz, GOGA
AB, Jett, JI, TDS, Mo
Will never happen tho.
I definitely agree with the sports gambling advertising thing, something about this give me a weird vibe in terms of the effectiveness to the pure enjoyment of how we view our team, like pls NBA keep these agendas out of the Magic’s territory we want a purely natural view/coverage of the game.
Sorry to break it to you guys, but Cole is just not that good. It’s generous that we offered him 13 million a year.
Box plus minus against all playoff and play in opponents over the last 2 regular seasons.
+/-
Cole 0 40 wins - 53 losses
Franz -94 40 wins - 55 losses
Suggs -199 33 wins - 47 losses
Carter -202 26 wins - 44 losses
Paolo -376 41wins - 59 losses
Best player on a bench unit that CARRIED you to your regular season success over the last 2 seasons.
@@dootdadoMosley talking about cole +\-? Lets see ill go by playoff games.
Im not trying to be mean! I just care that my team competes at the highest level in the NBA!
1. -5+\- 4pts
2.-13+\- Opts
3. +16+\- 10pts (solid)
4. +15+\- 3pts
5. -14+\- 2 points
6. +6 +\- 9 points
7. +8 +\- 8pts
So a plus contributor in 4 games in a series which you only won 3? Which is more than can be said for Franz and the same as can be said for Jalen and Paolo?
Not to mention the highest plus minus for anyone on the team in game 7 and one of only two players who was not a minus. Up by 6 when he comes in the game and up by 17 when he leaves just 5 minutes and 45 seconds later.
Not to mention that you don't even see a game 7 unless Cole wins you game 6 (according to Franz).
Then sits there on the bench as your doot dado coach fumbles the season away in an epic collapse? Not seeing the court again until you're down 8 and gassed from chasing the ball back and forth in a 15 point quarter which Cole did not see the floor? 15 point quarter in which your coach doesn't call a timeout until 2 minutes and 44 seconds left? LOL nobody can be that stupid he had to have thrown the game.
It was a nice attempt on your part but Jalen and Franz missed as many 3's in game 7 as Cole Anthony attempted in the entire series and missed more shots in game 7 alone than Cole Anthony missed in the entire series. Try again.
@@dootdadoMosley what are you doing bringing Franz into this? Im talking about cole. As a player, as bis skills, as a defender, AS A PLAYER. im saying he is not a great player! He can be GOOD but you are trying to prove a C tier bench player was some sort of game changer? You have no idea what you are saying. I love Cole Anthony. He is a great dude. Much better person than most guys in the NBA. He signed one of my rookie cards at dicks sporting goods. He let me give him a hug and i wished him goodluck! Because thats what he will need. Unfortunately he is an undersized guard with minimal scope on the defensive end. He is awesome guy but he isn’t a good player. He can have good games tho. Its the truth and you need to not let your fandom bias skew your logic.
I can tell that you are a low IQ individual because you did not present any evidence for the things you just said. BTW your opponents shot a lower field goal percentage when Cole Anthony was the closest defender than when Jalen Suggs was the closest defender last year.
It's not just Franz, Paolo isn't safe either. Not as long as your doot dado coach is holding back a James Harden level offensive talent while forcing us to watch the most mind numbingly bad offensive basketball on a team that has the personnel to play like the Warriors. All because he has a point to prove and gets wet for defenseketball and Chauncey Billups and the 03 Pistons. Dude is going to get himself fired trying to prove he can win big games without Cole.
My theory is that most of you don't even watch the starters play and you're just on twitter and reddit glazing up this head coach and starting lineup so you don't see how awful it is and then you don't even put your phone down until you hear the crowd audibly gasp at some filthy disgusting move Cole pulled off. Which is why he gets scapegoated for every loss because he's the only one you actually watched.
Your teams improvement has come almost entirely from an improved bench unit and your starters are just now catching up.
In the 2023-24 season the Orlando Magic scored 9,058 points which is 511 points more than they scored in 2021-22 with just 8,547. However, the 2023-24 bench outscored the 2021-22 bench by 337 points leaving the 12 players who started in 2023-24 responsible for just a 174 point improvement over the 17 different players who started games in 2021-22.
Jalen is only scoring .8 more points at 22 with Paolo than he did at 20 with Cole. Franz is only scoring 4.5 more points on 3 more attempts at 22 than he did at 20 with Cole. Wendell has the best season of his career at 22 with Cole and has now regressed back to Bulls Carter with Paolo at 24. Gary had the best year of his Magic career with Cole.
In the 2021-22 season age 21 Cole Anthony led the Magic in scoring 23 times while attempting 20 or more field goals in 7 games.
In the 2023-24 season age 21 Paolo Banchero led the Magic in scoring 44 times while attempting 20 or more field goals in a whopping 26 games.
In the 2021-22 season age 21 Cole Anthony led the Magic in assists 37 times while playing more than 30 minutes in 47 games
In the 2023-24 season age 21 Paolo Banchero led the Magic in assists 41 times while playing more than 30 minutes in 74 games
So if we're labeling Cole Anthony an inefficient shot chucker who doesn't make his teammates better after his age 21 season then what does that make Paolo today? Or, is the gap in talent between Cole Anthony and Markelle Fultz really just that much wider than the gap in talent between Paolo Banchero and Mo Bamba?
Kevin, my brother…PLEASE STOP 🛑 with the gentle throwing of Jonathan under the bus 🚌 on every single intro of the “Monday” show. It’s cutting through him. I can see it in his eyes 👀 every time you do it 😂. We already know that you’re recording on Sunday. NOTHING BUT LOVE ❤️.
-Calvin
@@blackonblacklove5484 with all due respect, I have no idea what you’re talking about brother. It’s all love. Thanks so much for taking your time to listen to the show! -Jonathan
@@SixthManShow 😂😂😂 no problem. Just an observation. Love the show and definitely love all of y’all! Go Magic!!! #4seed this year and a STRONG 💪🏾 push for the ECF’s.