NEW Honda Grom First Ride
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Twelve-inch wheels and a 124cc engine aren’t considered exciting things in the world of motorcycles. Fortunately, nobody ever told Honda that. And so in 2013, it introduced the Grom. The 2025 Grom is not significantly different from that iconic first model and even less so from the third-generation Grom that replaces it. Actually, the 2025 Grom is identical to the previous model in terms of running equipment and only differs in tweaks certain body panel.
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No matter the size,
I love the sound of a single.
something about the smaller displacement sewing machine sound, and then you get up to the CB300R with its 286CC single, and it's a big more throaty, IE a larger sewing machine.
@@DerekFrampton
500. /. 600. Ice bike or a Ducati with the flywheel removed running total loss ing, crying it's heart out through a opened up reverse cone .
Use to be a class called:
The battle of the twins and the sound of singles....
I wish Honda would see what the community is doing with these mini-moto's and make a 2nd version perhaps with the super moniker that has 150 or 200cc oil cooled motor.
My modded Monkey make about 11-12hp but it would be ideal if it had around 20, would make an awesome commuter for me.
@@SSS-mp8th I definitely agree. I really wish they’d increase the size to at least 199cc. That’d be perfect.
@@xcrack6364I’m on a Condor 150 ( CG Honda design ) Yeah, a 200 would be about right. A CG250 ( 229cc ) is a easy swap on mine, might do that but haven’t modded the 150 at all yet.
Own a cb300r, did my MSF on a tiny Honda Grom... thing is a laugh and the cb feels like an "adult" Grom and is all the more fun for it.
Amazing! After 60 years, Honda finds a way to put a 5th gear in!
That Klim Cycle World jacket is pretty cool.
I like the new look. I wasn't a fan of the "bullet hole" panels on the older Groms.
I still hate its exhaust layout. Would be nice if it is like the Kawasaki XSR 110 layout. 😅
Sound is blown out in the video.
Besides that, most all motorized two wheeled stuff is great. The Grom holds value, is inexpensive enough to be a second or third unit, is small and don't hog up space, can run on most roadways with adequate speed, dirt cheap to run, and holds adults without being smashed into the ground. Not to mention reliable as a stone axe. It doesn't have the stigma of a scooter... which some people might otherwise be bothered about.
No, it has the stigma of a Grom. Pretty much like vaping, similar clients are into them.
Who pays more money for this kids toy, why not get a decent used drz400 or wr450?
@@impalaSS65 I can appreciate a turbo Hayabusa. I can also appreciate a Grom. A lot of people don't have the emotional capacity to do that.
@@impalaSS65It’s okay, just because people make choices different than yours, you don’t have to be so insecure. Live and let live, eh?
@@marcoluoma3770 OP used the term "stigma" about scooters. This discussion isn't about playing virtuos.
When manufacturers are spending energy on meaningless kids toys, they will spend less energy on useful bikes. So no.
@@impalaSS65 a small, lightweight, low emissions, low-profile, easily repairable city runabout isn't a "useful bike"? Come on now. That describes 90% of the bikes in the WORLD.
Thanks for a fun review. I don’t want one but I hope they’re still available when the granddaughter turns 8.
I have a 2025 Grom, got it the end of June. It is my 2nd Mini Moto (first one was a Z125 I had for 2 years). I absolutely love it, I ride my street triple to and from work, every other time I’m on the Grom 😂
Why the switch from z125 pro to Grom? I had a grom in 2018 and am now considering a z125 since they're cheaper and the new groms have transmission issues
@@charkswitlazers there was a year in between the 2. I figured I already owned a Z125 so I test rode a new Grom and wanted to try it out. I’ve heard of transmission problems but haven’t experienced it yet. Z125 suspension was better stock vs stock, but the grom seems to run slightly faster and hold speed slightly better than my Z125 did. You really can’t go wrong with either machine. When my daughter starts riding next year she’ll probably end up on a z125 just because I can find them used cheaper around me than I can a grom.
@@charkswitlazers I will say, ride them both and buy whichever you like better. Every vehicle make/model will have it’s characteristic issues but not all of them will have that issue. My ECU died and left me stranded on the 2021 Z125, but you don’t hear about that alot though it does happen on them. My dad has owned alot of Harleys and had great luck, I’m 2 for 2 on them being junk. Luck of the draw, it’s good to be aware of what to look for but anything has the potential to fail.
@@PortersGarage have you heard of any other issues other than ECU problems on the z? I never heard about that, but it's good to know.
@@charkswitlazers from normal riding, nothing widespread. 2017s and 2018s had ecu recall, but my 2021 wasn’t covered in that and still had failure.
Small batches of kickstand switches causing bike to die or stator going back popped up in the groups from time to time but nothing crazy or consistent enough for me to clearly identify as a common problem.
I live in a city with steep streets; how/can it handle them? I weigh ~195....ish. A dealer near has a 2024 in stock, and last weekend my Hypermotard builder and his fiancé both spent the day mountain riding a pair of them and they couldn't stop smiling.
You said it helps them keep price down to use hold over parts. That does not affect the price my young friend. It just affects how much goes in their pocket
???? They can price the bike lower because of that.
Hey, both hands on at the Barber Parkway dip!
Nah, keep the display the same, simple and functional, just like the bike. No need for techie stuff, that just ups the price and the possibility for something to go wrong. Too many unnecessary electronics on things as it is.
I 100% agree with this! less shit to go wrong. keep it simple!
I like the looks of this new model. I didn't like the big panels.
Why is this bike slower than a 50+ year old Honda 125? Both air cooled and this bike is lighter plus this is F.I. over the old Carb'd bike.
If Honda imported it’s CB125R and CB125F models into North America, they would never sell another Grom (yes, I am exaggerating) and it would also reduce sales of their CBR300 and CB300 models. If Yamaha (YZF-R125, MT-125, YZF-R15, MT-15, XSR-15, FZ-S), Kawasaki (Ninja 125, Z125) and Suzuki (GSXR125) did the same there would be no appreciable market for these mini bikes.
While in other markets the Grom does co-exist in Honda’s lineup with other 125cc models; in the UK for example there are six Honda 125cc models on offer, including three mini bikes.
There are many reasons why riders purchase Groms (including very small riders for whom a Grom is not miniature at all), but the most pertinent of these are affordability (both purchase price and operating costs, i.e., fuel, servicing, etc.) and availability. As new full sized Japanese 125cc motorcycles are generally not sold in the largest markets in North America (i.e., Canada and the USA), availability has been deliberately limited to minibikes, scooters and underbone models such as the Super Cub and Trail 125, all of which are limited in their capabilities, utility and appeal. Very few people would be taking their Honda Grom for a 100km highway trip, let alone riding cross country.
While there will always be a contingent of riders to whom minibikes appeal, the majority of riders, whose primary objective is transportation, if presented with a 125cc minibike and a full-sized 125cc motorcycle at a similar price point will opt for the latter. For example the Honda CB125F with its 18” wheels, 70mph top speed and 20% lower price. See the examples below from Honda. As the CBR125R is no longer offered in the UK I have substituted Yamaha’s YZF125R.
MSX125 Grom: 9.6hp, 12” wheels. Top speed: 60mph. £3,929 ($4,828 in Canada).
www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/125cc/msx125/overview.html
CB125F: 11hp, 18” wheels. Top speed: 70mph / 113km/h. £3,149
www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/125cc/cb125f/overview.html
CB125R: 15hp, 17” wheels. Top speed: 80mph/130km/h. £4,699
www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/street/cb125r/overview.html
Yamaha YZF-R125: 15hp, 17” wheels. Top speed: 80mph/130km/h. £5,303
www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/motorcycles/supersport/pdp/r125-2024/
And there in lies the issue. There’s more to the world than North America 😂
@@friktionrc And there is also more to North America than the USA and Canada.
@@radianman nah mate, there really isn’t 😂
@@friktionrc Yes there is. I would educate you, but it will do you good to do the research yourself. Use your magnifying glass.
@@radianman You said "if Honda imported CVR125 and BB125 into North America they would never sell anothrr Grom" - maybe its you thst needs to look at your education. making sweeping statements when you have no idea what people will buy speaks volumes. Most own a Grom + at least one other bike. Chances are even if Honda bring the CBR125 they wont suddenly sell little to no Groms because of the ammount of folks that want to be part of the Grom sub-culture. There are folks who own litre bikes but also own a Grom. ...but yeah you know ALL about what Honda's strategy should be because you know everything about North America 🤦♂️🤣
Adding Öhlins top of the line suspension; front and rear, along with a proper aluminum frame are the inexpensive upgrades I'd like to see.
Rearsets and clip ons along with a full ti exhaustion are also musts.
I guess it'll be a zx4rr for me, with CF wheels, a full Evo ti Akra, and some tires. If some crazy fabricator offered a proper frame and swing arm I'd be in. I'm thinking 80 whp with mods.
I'll be 62 later this month, so no more modded S1000RRs for me.
I'd rather find a Suzuki RG500 Gamma for 20-25k in mint condition, but that's not likely to happen.
Sorry, not interested in the Grim at nearly $4k.
You know absolutely nothing about the concept of a motorcycle that is a Honda Grom or a Monkey, they are worth every cent they cost but it is not a question of money, the point is that they have not made it for you, you do not know what you are talking about
Did Honda finally firm up those spongy forks?
Cool that Grim is most sold cycle? Don't like your job?
Awesome
Do you need a license plate to ride on the street
Just a permit since it’s under 125cc👍
@@leoburgos9254 what permit?
You can either get your motorcycle license straight away or you can just book an appointment and get your motorcycle learners permit instead
It’s much easier because all your doing is the online knowledge test then they give you your permit
However with the permit you can’t drive on highways and you’ll have a curfew but since the Grom is slower that doesn’t really matter
Well, at least it's not as ugly this year.
first! time to downgrade from a 1200cc gas guzzler 😂
Perhaps the least informative “review” I’ve ever heard. This guy’s no Peter Egan.
Yet, here you are.
I can’t decide what’s more embarrassing to ride - a scooter or a grom?
😂😂😂 there fun to ride you don’t get it
You gotta leave the ego at home on both. It's about smiles per gallon.
I ride a Grom and not at all embarrassed by getting my 130+mpg.
Why would you be embarrassed about riding either? Go out and have fun! I get nothing but waves and thumbs ups with my Grom on my city rides too!
Your comment is what’s embarrassing stay at home