What's going on TH-cam! Tone M here with another little video review on this cool gas sipper of a scooter, the 2021 Vitacci Clash 200EFI GT1. As always thank you for watching and hope you enjoy.
If you have the intent to keep this bike for longer, consider putting honda click/vario parts on it. I think you can use kzr, k59 or k60 parts code on it on several parts.
@@Wordamoufguy we got plenty here in indonesia, but i don't know about there in US. the exhaust that probably match the clash is probably the one with k59j part number. It cost around 50 bucks here.
@@Wordamoufguy K59/K60 is the production code number for the Honda Vario/Click that the Clash was based on. You would most probably be able to use many of the parts, however, expect quite a number of them (especially those related to the engine and drivetrain) to be incompatible since the Clash is a whole different machine under the similar appearance.
We have a Spark 150 and a Honda Click planning on getting this to replace the Spark as I'd like the EFI and the CC displacement I don't care that they say 200cc and is not fully it will still be a little more power and response due to it being EFI like the click.
Have you learned any more yet about swapping out muffler and other parts considering the installed EFI? Interested in any literature, videos, word of mouth, or whatever you may have been able to obtain.
I had to adjust the out-take valve on mine BRAND NEW off the crate. 🤦🏽♀️ It was completely closed tight, but the intake valve was adjusted perfect at .0005 Of course that took me all summer to figure out because a brand new bike shouldn’t need a valve adjustment. So, to anyone out there having issues with the bike staying idle “It May Be Your Valves” 💁🏽♀️
Has been running great actually. I have noticed that the left brake lever doesn't always activate the brake light. I've had to mess with it a few times and wiggle the wire. It's important that it activates the light because you won't be able to start the bike. Other than that it's been really reliable and engine is holding up pretty well.
To be honest is holding up pretty well. There are a few things I've noticed here and there while it's running and as it idles. But nothing serious and really no power loss or gain... Just kinda goes. All in all is holding together well for being a Chinese clone.
Ive had like 10 chinese scooters but none of them rusted as much as this thing did.. how many miles did you have on it when that started? I always rubbed mine down in penetrating oil too as a rust preventative. “Corrosion X”
At the time of the video I only had maybe I believe 200 miles or maybe less. I'm at almost 500 now and the rust is still about the same, but yeah it's concerning as well to me.
@@ToneM Well I pulled the trigger on one anyway. The exhaust I guess you can always just rattle can with some matte black heat paint, but I'll just soak everything in oil like I did on my previous bikes. How are the headlights on this bike? I usually swap out for an LED bulb but it looks like this one just comes factory with LED lights.
Just got the exact Clash 200 efi. You should put rust gel on the metal and Hi Temp spray paint or the rust will cost you later. Mine hasn't rusted yet. I use silicone spray on my pressure washers to stop them from rusting. I'll try that before it gets to that point. Do you know if it has a Kevlar belt and what size? I don't want to be stranded because of a cheap belt. Good honest video. Thanks.
That high temp spray is a good idea thank you I didn't even think of that but now that you have mentioned it I will take a look at it. As far as what type of belt I have not opened the case yet to check I will go on record but probably saying is not a Kevlar belt considering where it's come from. LOL
@@ToneM Use the satin finish on the muffler. Do you know your MPG? Can't remember if you mentioned it. Even though you can't make these faster I am glad for the efi because others have had so much problems with the stock carbs. Has plenty of power and more than enough to keep up with traffic.
@@dk4622 I get about roughly 80ish out just a little under because of my weight. Other than that I do notice that there is a slight bogging when going full throttle... I believe it's the rev limiter, I could be way off... But that's what I'm thinking because it'll stay right at 7,000 rpm full crank. But again not sure 🤷
My Clash now has 1500 miles. I made an accurate MPG test on two 83 mile high speed rides, between 55 mph and 60 mph actual speed measured by GPS. Without a windshield it was 76 mpg, with windshield it was 82 mpg. This is at 4000' elevation with some hills, a 230 lb 6'1" rider at about 70 degrees. 87 octane gas. The stock belt is a Gates Powerlink 835 20 30.
@@ToneM Mine also had a slight hesitation at full throttle but I solved it by putting a 1/2 watt 100 ohm resistor in series with the engine temperature sensor. Easy and cheap to do.
@@ToneM Thank you! On X-Pro's site there are two pdf files. Scooter manual says SAE 10W-30 (Sigma) for 4-stroke engines or its substitute HQB-10. The quick guide says perform your first oil change by replacing the engine oil with 10W-40 motor oil prior to starting. They're giving out false information on that and the 200 EFI when it's 168cc's
There is a sticker on the engine that says to use 15w40 oil. Same sticker Lifan puts on their other motorcycle engines. Many motorcycle owners including me use Rotella T4 15w40 for diesel trucks because it is easy to get in 1 gallon jugs at Walmart and meets motorcycle standards. Because these scooter engines do not have a wet clutch there shouldn't be a problem using any type of oil that meets viscosity requirements.
A performance muffler shouldn't affect the ECU (brain) as long as you can install the oxygen sensor in the header pipe. I've yet to see an aftermarket muffler with the welded on bung to mount the sensor but as more EFI engines are sold I'm sure they will eventually be available.
I ran in to the same problem, I went to Red Fox Powersport in Riverside Cal. On their site I was looking for a 200cc scooter. Went in to the scooters, under 200cc category and found one that I felt comfortable with It was Teyin Super 200. I bought it on line and they shipped it to me. I opened it up and assembled the few things that that to be mounted. Set it up and it ran fine no issues. About a weel or more, I got the paperwork on the scooter and prepped everything to get it registered at the Secretary of the State. I did notice it at first or even on the web site where it was in small print. On the title it said it was 168.9cc not 200cc. That is when I went back to the site and looked at all the specs. and it said 168.9cc. I was pissed. It said in the description it is a 200cc scooter. So I am putting this out there Beware of Red Fox Powersport.
Can you post an update video on the clash? Also dose the digital dash change colors? I plan on getting the clash 200 168cc scooter tomorrow on powersportsmax. Is the clash running well for you no running issues! Dose it still run and drive smoothly and open up smooth?
@@BeSti1l yes I purchased the clash 200 EFI 168cc scooter last Tuesday from powersportsmax. It’s arriving this Tuesday which it will be a week from when I placed the order. Let me know if you have any questions about the clash. I got mine in blue, what color are you going with? I paid $1680 total price. Not assembled, For assembly You will have to put on the wheel, handle bars, suspension, and battery that comes with it. Also it includes hardware/tools and a color matched trunk. again feel free to ask me questions about the clash 200 168cc scooter!
I just saw what I think was this scooter on Amazon pretty good price it was listed as an HHH clash 200. I live not too far from you in Orlando wondering if these are street legal
Yes they are and I use mine as a daily commuter. It keeps with traffic pretty well and even though I'm on the heavier side it still pushes power pretty efficiently.
I just bought it and I think it overheats or something idk it doesn't wanna fully go past 20mph. Any reason why? Could it be overheating? Works perfectly at night but not in the day
@@Dillbikes This is the best cheap scooter on the market, but mine is called the SAIPAN ( same scooter though, I have owned mine for 1 year and 8 months. Absolutely NOT one issue, starts every time, is light and nimble, and fast. the only thing you might want to do if you live in an uphill area is change out the drive belt to a Kevlar one ( very strong) all the Chinese scooters come with the very cheap belts that break. other than that this reliable EFI scooter is SOLID!! and is actually a Honda scooter.
@@ethanconnor-hodges1899 if your back break is to tight or lose right were the break cable goes to the back wheel you can adjust that screw by hand right makes the break tighter if you want your parking break, loosen the break screw just enough to your liking it’s very very easy to adjust no tools required for that! Hope this helps
Arlington Power Sports is where I ordered from it took about 2 weeks and yes it can be delivered fully assembled and tested. That is actually exactly how I got mine.
A neighbor had something similar. I live in an apartment complex. He had it about three weeks every night someone was fucking with it. He ended up throwing it out. I guess it weighs a few hundred pounds. Anyway I assume he had some help throwing it out. When the landlord found out they tried to find him. I think the guy moved out after cursing them out.
before you bought it did you actually do any research on it. all the tech specs on the sites that sell this scooter show that it is actually only 168cc. as for gaining more speed there are other mods you can do to it.
You are correct, I did look into the bike before purchase and I did see the specs. I won't lie and say that I understood what it all meant! Lol When I saw the 168cc it was labeled with displacement. I did not understand that it was meaning that it was the size of the motor. I figured it was due to limiters or something restricting it to that kind of power for California or whatever. It still however is marketed as a 200cc bike though.
It has an "ECU" or "ECM" is what it is called. I have been working with these off brand units for 7 years now. As far as the off brand units they never list exact cc size on anything from china. It is how it always has been. Every one of them list the displacements in the description as the Chines only ever list 50cc, 125cc, 150cc, and 200cc. There are none that list them as 170 or whatever the exact displacement is. And you can swap the muffler as that has no electrical going through it at all.
Thank you for the info. I just recently did an oil change on mine at 600 miles and got to looking around and saw no electrical anything on the muffler, as you stated.
@@MrHugemoth yes and that is in the header not the muffler. Once again I have been working with these things for 7 years. We have put different mufflers on them with no issues. This is not anything like a car.
Yes that is even if that part is on the header pipe, some of them aren't like that. I never said anything about a direct bolt on. It all depends on the complete muffler setup. I don't think this has the part you are talking about on it. I think it is internal leaving it open for upgrades. These ECU's in my experience for the scooters are pretty wide open as far as what they are calibrated to as there was an issue with the first run of these throwing engine light because it is air cooled and they were set for it how ever the unit runs completely fine even though the light is on.
Frame and engine are holding up pretty well. It does show rust on pretty much every metal part. But seems superficial not serious. Soo far nothing has fallen off.
@@ToneM how many miles? I'm in philippines and have a honda click, i really want one of these when I get back to the states. I can't find any videos on them besides yours and videos from dealers and dealers are going to be biased.
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This really did help me and my cousin out today thanks. Keep it up 💯👍
Good job man. Thanks. Was looking to get one for a daily through town work commute. Enjoyed the info. Would’ve liked to have seen it on the road. 👍🏼
Thank you for your great video😊
Family go karts has this exact scooter listed as 200cc, BUT if you read the description it lists the engine as 168cc.
He literally said that at the 2 minute point...
Great review , thanks
I hope to see videos of you riding bud. Can't wait until it warms up for me and get out there
Ahhhhhh!!!No wonder i couldnt find the cdi box !thnx !
Cute doggy. I have a yorkiepoo. Also looking to get this scooter. It's very nice looking.
From what I understand, you can also put those little stick on fisheye bullet mirrors on to be able to see behind you.
If you have the intent to keep this bike for longer, consider putting honda click/vario parts on it. I think you can use kzr, k59 or k60 parts code on it on several parts.
@theace78 where could I get those...I need the exhaust 😢😂😅😅
@@Wordamoufguy we got plenty here in indonesia, but i don't know about there in US. the exhaust that probably match the clash is probably the one with k59j part number. It cost around 50 bucks here.
@@TheAce78 thank you!! Is that the whole number for the part?
@@Wordamoufguy K59/K60 is the production code number for the Honda Vario/Click that the Clash was based on. You would most probably be able to use many of the parts, however, expect quite a number of them (especially those related to the engine and drivetrain) to be incompatible since the Clash is a whole different machine under the similar appearance.
Honda also sells the click in the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia
Can you make a video of how the lights and the dash look at night?
I have the other version. Vitacci force. Damn just learning this I am glad I have one.
We have a Spark 150 and a Honda Click planning on getting this to replace the Spark as I'd like the EFI and the CC displacement I don't care that they say 200cc and is not fully it will still be a little more power and response due to it being EFI like the click.
Have you learned any more yet about swapping out muffler and other parts considering the installed EFI? Interested in any literature, videos, word of mouth, or whatever you may have been able to obtain.
I just ordered my clash 200 EFI 168cc scooter off of powersportsmax can’t wait!
i know this is late but i’ve been thinking ab getting one how is it
i'm curious too, how is it?
Hey man one more question what type of gear oil do you put in yours?
I need rack holder (rear), did u know where i can bought it? Only the rack holder
THANKS!!
Did you read the spec sheet, it says 168cc. It's the sales people claiming 200cc.
I had to adjust the out-take valve on mine BRAND NEW off the crate. 🤦🏽♀️ It was completely closed tight, but the intake valve was adjusted perfect at .0005
Of course that took me all summer to figure out because a brand new bike shouldn’t need a valve adjustment. So, to anyone out there having issues with the bike staying idle “It May Be Your Valves” 💁🏽♀️
Good info, i just bought a spark. Should be here next week .
My clash 200 EFI when rev it and release the throttle it will rev by itself then slowly go to idle dose your clash do the same is it normal
How is it running today 10 months later? I bought the same one online and im excited for it
Has been running great actually. I have noticed that the left brake lever doesn't always activate the brake light. I've had to mess with it a few times and wiggle the wire. It's important that it activates the light because you won't be able to start the bike. Other than that it's been really reliable and engine is holding up pretty well.
I'm watching this 9 months after you posted, how is it holding up now?
To be honest is holding up pretty well. There are a few things I've noticed here and there while it's running and as it idles. But nothing serious and really no power loss or gain... Just kinda goes. All in all is holding together well for being a Chinese clone.
Ive had like 10 chinese scooters but none of them rusted as much as this thing did.. how many miles did you have on it when that started? I always rubbed mine down in penetrating oil too as a rust preventative. “Corrosion X”
At the time of the video I only had maybe I believe 200 miles or maybe less. I'm at almost 500 now and the rust is still about the same, but yeah it's concerning as well to me.
@@ToneM Well I pulled the trigger on one anyway. The exhaust I guess you can always just rattle can with some matte black heat paint, but I'll just soak everything in oil like I did on my previous bikes. How are the headlights on this bike? I usually swap out for an LED bulb but it looks like this one just comes factory with LED lights.
Just got the exact Clash 200 efi. You should put rust gel on the metal and Hi Temp spray paint or the rust will cost you later. Mine hasn't rusted yet. I use silicone spray on my pressure washers to stop them from rusting. I'll try that before it gets to that point. Do you know if it has a Kevlar belt and what size? I don't want to be stranded because of a cheap belt. Good honest video. Thanks.
That high temp spray is a good idea thank you I didn't even think of that but now that you have mentioned it I will take a look at it. As far as what type of belt I have not opened the case yet to check I will go on record but probably saying is not a Kevlar belt considering where it's come from. LOL
@@ToneM Use the satin finish on the muffler. Do you know your MPG? Can't remember if you mentioned it. Even though you can't make these faster I am glad for the efi because others have had so much problems with the stock carbs. Has plenty of power and more than enough to keep up with traffic.
@@dk4622 I get about roughly 80ish out just a little under because of my weight. Other than that I do notice that there is a slight bogging when going full throttle... I believe it's the rev limiter, I could be way off... But that's what I'm thinking because it'll stay right at 7,000 rpm full crank. But again not sure 🤷
My Clash now has 1500 miles. I made an accurate MPG test on two 83 mile high speed rides, between 55 mph and 60 mph actual speed measured by GPS. Without a windshield it was 76 mpg, with windshield it was 82 mpg. This is at 4000' elevation with some hills, a 230 lb 6'1" rider at about 70 degrees. 87 octane gas.
The stock belt is a Gates Powerlink 835 20 30.
@@ToneM Mine also had a slight hesitation at full throttle but I solved it by putting a 1/2 watt 100 ohm resistor in series with the engine temperature sensor. Easy and cheap to do.
Hi Tone! This is the same moped engine as the x-pro saipan 200 efi.... Does it take 4 stroke 10w 30 or 10w 30 motorcycle oil?
I put 10w 30 motorcycle oil in it.
@@ToneM Thank you! On X-Pro's site there are two pdf files. Scooter manual says SAE 10W-30 (Sigma) for 4-stroke engines or its substitute HQB-10. The quick guide says perform your first oil change by replacing the engine oil with 10W-40 motor oil prior to starting. They're giving out false information on that and the 200 EFI when it's 168cc's
There is a sticker on the engine that says to use 15w40 oil. Same sticker Lifan puts on their other motorcycle engines. Many motorcycle owners including me use Rotella T4 15w40 for diesel trucks because it is easy to get in 1 gallon jugs at Walmart and meets motorcycle standards. Because these scooter engines do not have a wet clutch there shouldn't be a problem using any type of oil that meets viscosity requirements.
Where did you order it from? I'm also wondering if the muffler could be changed bc of the brain you referred to.
I just got the 2022 version of this. I’m wondering the same thing
A performance muffler shouldn't affect the ECU (brain) as long as you can install the oxygen sensor in the header pipe. I've yet to see an aftermarket muffler with the welded on bung to mount the sensor but as more EFI engines are sold I'm sure they will eventually be available.
I’ve been looking into changing out my muffler but haven’t had much luck
There’s one on ebay
@@4b11X link please?
The top of his muffler is rusted
I ran in to the same problem, I went to Red Fox Powersport in Riverside Cal. On their site I was looking for a 200cc scooter. Went in to the scooters, under 200cc category and found one that I felt comfortable with It was Teyin Super 200. I bought it on line and they shipped it to me. I opened it up and assembled the few things that that to be mounted. Set it up and it ran fine no issues. About a weel or more, I got the paperwork on the scooter and prepped everything to get it registered at the Secretary of the State. I did notice it at first or even on the web site where it was in small print. On the title it said it was 168.9cc not 200cc. That is when I went back to the site and looked at all the specs. and it said 168.9cc. I was pissed. It said in the description it is a 200cc scooter. So I am putting this out there Beware of Red Fox Powersport.
Can you post an update video on the clash? Also dose the digital dash change colors? I plan on getting the clash 200 168cc scooter tomorrow on powersportsmax. Is the clash running well for you no running issues! Dose it still run and drive smoothly and open up smooth?
Did you order? I plan to tomorrow :)
@@BeSti1l yes I purchased the clash 200 EFI 168cc scooter last Tuesday from powersportsmax. It’s arriving this Tuesday which it will be a week from when I placed the order. Let me know if you have any questions about the clash. I got mine in blue, what color are you going with? I paid $1680 total price. Not assembled, For assembly You will have to put on the wheel, handle bars, suspension, and battery that comes with it. Also it includes hardware/tools and a color matched trunk. again feel free to ask me questions about the clash 200 168cc scooter!
I just saw what I think was this scooter on Amazon pretty good price it was listed as an HHH clash 200. I live not too far from you in Orlando wondering if these are street legal
Yes they are and I use mine as a daily commuter. It keeps with traffic pretty well and even though I'm on the heavier side it still pushes power pretty efficiently.
I just bought it and I think it overheats or something idk it doesn't wanna fully go past 20mph. Any reason why? Could it be overheating? Works perfectly at night but not in the day
i just ordered one and it’s coming on thursday , is yours still having issues?? do you have any recommendations ??
@@Dillbikes This is the best cheap scooter on the market, but mine is called the SAIPAN ( same scooter though, I have owned mine for 1 year and 8 months. Absolutely NOT one issue, starts every time, is light and nimble, and fast. the only thing you might want to do if you live in an uphill area is change out the drive belt to a Kevlar one ( very strong) all the Chinese scooters come with the very cheap belts that break. other than that this reliable EFI scooter is SOLID!! and is actually a Honda scooter.
Hey Tone...Can you tell me where is the cdi box on your scooter ? Help !!!
Honestly I do not know. I haven't had anything apart as of yet to really look.
IS THE BIKE RELIABLE IN THE SENCE THAT YOU FEEL OK ABOUT DRIVING IT 30 MILES AWAY FROM HOME
Yes
@@ToneM I second that, but only with my Gates Kevlar belt installed because of hills
What was your break-in period like? Did you have to baby it for awhile?
Actually I did kind of baby it for the first like 200 miles. After 220ish I started opening her up full throttle and honestly she's been great.
@@ToneM Thanks. I just picked up my new Clash today. Loving it!
Does your brake lever for the back brakes go in all the way?
@@ethanconnor-hodges1899 no
@@ethanconnor-hodges1899 if your back break is to tight or lose right were the break cable goes to the back wheel you can adjust that screw by hand right makes the break tighter if you want your parking break, loosen the break screw just enough to your liking it’s very very easy to adjust no tools required for that! Hope this helps
#ToneM ... where did you order this from, and how long did it take to get it? Can you have it delivered fully assembled?
Arlington Power Sports is where I ordered from it took about 2 weeks and yes it can be delivered fully assembled and tested. That is actually exactly how I got mine.
@@ToneM Thank you, Bill
@@ToneM So is it worth it? And are there month's that it's just too cold to ride...or can you keep yourself warm?
@@ToneM I hate to keep bothering you...but do you still have the camper in the background? For sale?
A neighbor had something similar.
I live in an apartment complex.
He had it about three weeks every night someone was fucking with it.
He ended up throwing it out.
I guess it weighs a few hundred pounds.
Anyway I assume he had some help throwing it out.
When the landlord found out they tried to find him.
I think the guy moved out after cursing them out.
I do own the honda click 125 we have it here in the Philippines
Anyone know how to adjust the clock?
before you bought it did you actually do any research on it. all the tech specs on the sites that sell this scooter show that it is actually only 168cc. as for gaining more speed there are other mods you can do to it.
You are correct, I did look into the bike before purchase and I did see the specs. I won't lie and say that I understood what it all meant! Lol
When I saw the 168cc it was labeled with displacement. I did not understand that it was meaning that it was the size of the motor. I figured it was due to limiters or something restricting it to that kind of power for California or whatever. It still however is marketed as a 200cc bike though.
The engine number LF161QMK indicates that it's made by Lifan, single cylinder, has a 61mm bore, is in the 175cc class, and is forced air cooled.
How much do you pay for insurance on that thing?
I do not have insurance on it.
cheap,$30 for a year
new model tank 200 efi is the same displacement. 168cc.
It’s not on the website as 200cc, you
Just didn’t read the specs.
The Chinese always round up to the next 50
It has an "ECU" or "ECM" is what it is called. I have been working with these off brand units for 7 years now. As far as the off brand units they never list exact cc size on anything from china. It is how it always has been. Every one of them list the displacements in the description as the Chines only ever list 50cc, 125cc, 150cc, and 200cc. There are none that list them as 170 or whatever the exact displacement is. And you can swap the muffler as that has no electrical going through it at all.
Thank you for the info. I just recently did an oil change on mine at 600 miles and got to looking around and saw no electrical anything on the muffler, as you stated.
Because the scooter has EFI it has an oxygen sensor in the header pipe. Any replacement exhaust will need to accommodate the sensor.
@@MrHugemoth yes and that is in the header not the muffler. Once again I have been working with these things for 7 years. We have put different mufflers on them with no issues. This is not anything like a car.
@@srhguy210 I believe the muffler and header are one piece. Cutting the muffler off the header then welding on a new muffler would work.
Yes that is even if that part is on the header pipe, some of them aren't like that. I never said anything about a direct bolt on. It all depends on the complete muffler setup. I don't think this has the part you are talking about on it. I think it is internal leaving it open for upgrades. These ECU's in my experience for the scooters are pretty wide open as far as what they are calibrated to as there was an issue with the first run of these throwing engine light because it is air cooled and they were set for it how ever the unit runs completely fine even though the light is on.
Run 87.
Mirrors are way too short
How is it holding up?
Frame and engine are holding up pretty well. It does show rust on pretty much every metal part. But seems superficial not serious. Soo far nothing has fallen off.
@@ToneM how many miles? I'm in philippines and have a honda click, i really want one of these when I get back to the states. I can't find any videos on them besides yours and videos from dealers and dealers are going to be biased.
WTH the 2 places RUSTED how lonng have you had this scooter and kept it outside
That's because the little asian man that tested it was probably about 128 lbs LMAO!
China bikes are prone to rusting bcoz the metal.they used is low quality unlike japan.use high grade material
Wtf the moped max capacity is 305
My buddy 125 weighs 220lbs and can carry 330lbs
that is an exact copy of the honda click 😂
More like 168cc
👇 ᵖʳᵒᵐᵒˢᵐ
Gosh the Chinese lying…
It makes no difference, this is a GREAT fast scooter!!