You missed the plate voltage on the Art. That’s one of the coolest features, run it in high plate voltage and it’s just more refined and clean without any brittleness/harshness... just nice and smooth and high end sounding. When you want to go dirty kick that off, and you get a different animal. It’s worth experimenting until you figure out the different ways the gain/output knobs respond with plate voltage high or low. Thanks for the review. Good job.
Honestly I like the grit and the imperfections of the ART! It depends on what your going for. If you want to drive your drums, bass, snare, kick whatever ART is the go to for Saturation. Avalon to me is cleaner and smooth!
You know you're supposed to press the plate voltage button in? When not lit up, the preamp is running the tubes at a low voltage (cheap preamps like these Behringer tube ones do this, it's called a starved plate design - because the tube is being run in "starvation" by having not enough power to work as it was intended to). Creating a higher voltage (100-200V) for proper tube operation costs money, this is why manufacturers often go for starved plate. In the ART unit you can switch which one you want. From the manual: The PRO MPA II takes about 10-30 seconds to smoothly transition from one mode to the other. There is a slight increase in gain in the “High” plate voltage mode. In the “normal” (OUT) position, the tube distortion gradually rises until it smoothly clips. The tube is run almost completely open-loop in this mode, providing a musical tube “crunch” when overdriven with a natural recovery from clipping. The tube section can be more easily overdriven when the gain switch is in. This mode brings out the harmonics in the input sources, particularly stringed instruments. The tube circuit runs extremely clean in the “high” (IN) position of the plate voltage switch. As signal levels rise distortion remains very low until within 6dB of clipping, where the overload characteristics smoothly limit the signal swing. There is increased bandwidth (>100KHz), and headroom in this mode as well. So you might want to revisit that one!
I actually thought the ART unit worked better with that vocal mic. I thought it was warmer and more even. The 737 revealed a little harshness in the upper part of the mic that I didn't hear when you were using it with the ART. I also thought the ARTunit was more versatile, tone wise. You could really hear the quality of the tubes with the gain switch employed, plus the variable impedance adjustment was very cool. While the Avalon was definitely more pristine, and accurate, that's not always what you're looking for from a preamp. Sometimes you want color. Sometimes you want character. The ART unit simply won in these regards.
Thank you for this video. $3,866 vs $349. I bought the Art Pro unit. The difference for the price of the Avalon is not worth it. I run a Neumann TML 103 and a Chandler Limited through the ART unit, they sound great!
Avalon sounds great as always ! I ain't mad that Art Pro MPA II except for when the light goes out ! Thanks for this comparison. This is exactly what i needed to help my decision making. While i love the expensive gear and all the bells and whistles, i'm starting to get into cheaper (in price) gear that sounds great as well. As an engineer, i strive to have the best sound for my client, but at the end of the day its not the gear what makes the performance sound good. They one line i get from most artist is "Make sure my vocal sounds crispy" At the end of the day the consumer of music is not going to be thinking about which mic pre was used. Great Video !
With all studio equipment, it’s about preference. Having a lot of tools is beneficial but what stands out is skill. I don’t own the outboard tube pre for the Avalon but I do have the UAD plugin emulation of it and I own a single channel Art mic pre and a Behringer ultragain vacuum tube pre, which all are nice but I prefer the behringer over the other 2 and it’s the cheapest out of all 3 🤷🏿♂️point is, get what works for u and ur workflow cause it’s not always about what u have, it’s what u do with it 💪🏿💯💯
Thanks man this video sold me on the PRO MPA2. I've been recording myself rapping for like 15 years and finally I'm getting a badass tube mic for my birthday and needed a pre to run it through. Although the Avalon is way better, this video along with others showed me the awesome sonic characters the MPA2 can hopefully achieve for me.
Appreciate you doing the video, but if you're going to do a comparison, probably best to run the plate voltage high on the Art. The Avalon has a proper plate voltage (similar to the high on the Art). The lower plate voltage on the Art is a nice feature that lets you get a different distortion character but isn't comparable to what the Avalon is doing.
The Art has some great ways of shaping the sound - or destroying it altogether :-) No surprises with the Avalon - it's very clean until you push it, then saturates in a pleasant way. Thanks for the demo.
*check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...! check...check...check...check...check...check... SMH, DUDE WTF???! All these singers out here trying to get shine.....*
I have both - both really useful! You would think 200.00 per channel would sound bad or at least not be remotely comparable to 3800.00 per channel but it's just not the case. To be fair, my ART purchases over the years have proven to not physically hold up as well. Light meters fail, buttons break, etc.. The components are cheap as you might expect. The Avalon will easily outlive me! That said, ART's designs are really good and make the most of inexpensive components. They do work and they sound good enough for most of to use in the real world. And who doesn't love a VU meter?!
I'm always doing the 20 db gain and the high plate voltage on things that I want to saturate more with the MPA. No doubt the Avalon sounds better but these 2 units are for completely different users. You can the MPA for $200-$250 street price or $350 new for TWO tube channels and the Avalon is $3000 for one channel and it's a much more complex unit
Dude i just discovered your channel, i am more of a metalhead when it comes to making music and i've been more used to guys like Glenn Fricker, Jens Bogren, Warren Huart or Khole, but your videos are pretty cool when it comes to comparisons and gear ! liked and subbed !
The compressor on the Avalon is horrible and under developed in my opinion. For 3.5K I expect more from this unit. Avalon is a waste of money compared to the Art Pro MPA II.
@@lightafluident.9950 nah a lot of producers and engineers feel that way. It’s got a great eq, but I’ve heard better solid state compressors perform better.
I have the Audient id14 can i not bypass the internal preamp? Do you suggest getting a different interdace and adding 1 of the preamps shown in this video?
Yes, in order to bypass the preamps you will need the sends and returns on the interface. You are definitely not stuck with these two preamps as your only choices. There are many to chose from. That will depend on the sound you are going for. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
My biggest problem with recording myself is that I can't talk and listen at the same time and hear what I need to change... so i have to record a take, then make a change that might or might not work, record again, over and over.
I haven’t tried the Lauren audio 320 but I actually love this mic over the cv-12. My first purchase of the cv12 didn’t go so well. It produced a lot of white noise and I had to change the tube and the noise stopped. Once the noise stopped I sold it. Found out later that it was an issue that a few ppl experienced from the first issue of this mic. I loved the sound and purchased it again after missing it so much. After purchasing the v13, I couldn’t see myself keeping the cv12 any longer and let it go again. Lol. I love the v13 and cant see myself parting with it anytime soon. It will be my tube mic option for sure!
@@CLEANMUDVIDEOS I bought the Lauten 320 and am eager to try it, I saw some really great reviews. Seems like an all around great mic for the price. With that being said. I am trying to figure out the best signal path using that and a couple small diaphragm mics.
CLEANMUD VIDEOS thanks man.. I think I’ll just go with the Vanguard V13! It’s kinda like more “exclusive” .. very few people own that Mic, over here in Puerto Rico I know A LOT of music producers and none of them have it or know about this mic. And the few reviews I’ve seen look so good. Plus that. In the back to take out the heat of the tube is an awesome feature!
Things like drums that are tone clusters, or synths that are no where near a real sound, don't give a good idea on this kind of gear. I think any preamp on those things sound fine. It is on vocals and other acoustic instruments where pres like the avalon really shine. We know a human voice inside and out. When it sounds off we hear that fast. Drums are a thud, think, thin, its still a thud.
If you are interested in hearing the rap vocal from these two preamps, you can download the files from the description area of this video. th-cam.com/video/YZ8E1fXpKco/w-d-xo.html
CLEANMUD VIDEOS am using u87ai with Apollo but i have a bright voice ones eq added the vocal gets messy even with DeEsser it won’t sound pleasing to the ear.. so am thinking about getting the art pro.... am thankful for any tip from your side..... thanks for the video
Mixat Studio / مكسات ستوديو have you tried turning your microphone a bit off axis to help with the harshness. If you turn it slightly to the right or left instead of having it pointed directly at you, it could help to tame some of the harshness as well
This has helped me a lot man, I am in the process of picking gear to put together my own studio. So since I am kind of new to this I have a couple questions maybe you can help with. 1) Where does the preamp connect to? 2) Would it make sense to run 2 mics into the ART PRO, say a large and small diaphragm condenser mic? I just want to make sure my signal path is correct. Thank you in advance, SUBBED!!
Excited for you on your journey! I have a video that shows how to connect the preamp to something like a Scarlett interface. The art pro mpa will allow you to connect both of those mics. What interface will you be using? Also, are you wanting to bypass the internal preamps in your interface and just use the art pro? If you are planning to bypass the internal interface preamps, it will depend on your interface th-cam.com/video/nB0Igvx9G_o/w-d-xo.html
How do you process your audio with such a high gain, I imagine you don't have to use a limiter? Also do you compress id you have a very high dynamic range. Thanks for your work
Yo brotha, in your opinion, are there any external preamps & compressors that link better than the Avalon vt737 with an u87ai in the same price range? Also, what would you prefer to run a u87 mic on? Appreciate you! (Shoutout from Southern MO)
Most definitely! I think that the la-610 is a nice option. Also, vintech has the x73i which is a preamp and eq modeled after a Neve 1073 type of sound. I’m a big fan of the Distressor because it’s so versatile in the kind of compression that it can do. I love the sound of it!
I had Avalon 20 years ago, never liked it. It was clear and transparent, no saturation, no grit, compressor slow, clean, transparent, actually I hated it. Probably a stupid kid expecting something unrealistic, but even today I do not see the point in having an expensive valve channel strip with zero character while you can get this clean, characterless sounds from your regular interface preamps. Maybe 30 years ago, but today not really.
Hey I got the Art pro and pro VLA but I can't get the VU meter up unless I turn the gain up on the knobs. And then the microphone clips easily. If I turn down the gain, then the VU meter doesn't move at all and is not using it's potential. I'm using the slate ml 1 microphone.
Top channel bro 👍 is worth me getting the pro mpa ? Or should I just keep saving for the Avalon ? I do have the Avalon plugin from uad which I really love
Either route you go will be nice! I know guys that got rid of the Avalon hardware unit to use the UAD version exclusively. In a mix, you wouldn’t be able to tell a major difference in most cases
Pro MPA II is definitely worth it. One of the first preamps I bought when I got into recording and it still has it's place on my rack today. Sure, the Avalon is a better mic pre but it is in no way $2,600 better than the Art. Save that money and buy some nice microphones.
check check check for a valve check check check...that got so brittle when you turned the volume up.. great video will not buy one starved plate pre amp any audio interface can do the same.
@@CLEANMUDVIDEOS their also good preamps . I'm using GA73 MK 2 with SSL 2+ interface, also Slate digital vms ml1 sounds nice but some day I'd like to get like your preamp or LA610 with cla 2a build in . Thx again
LEAVE THE OUTPUT ALONE BRO, USE THE INPUT GAIN TO DRIVE THE PREAMP , IMPEDANCE AT 700 THEM YOU CAN COMPENSATE LATER IF YOU NEED TO ONLESS YOU HAVE A TRANSFORMER ON THE OUTPUT YOU SHOULD NOT MESS WITH IT TOO MUCH. SHALOM
Facts. I like the mic pre on it, but I definitely wouldn't pay more than 1,000 bucks for one especially with all of the affordable new gear out there that's holding it's own against what is considered to be "vintage gear".
@@Mope333 how about you stick your head up your ass and use the shit inside it to record since you like mud sounds if you knew anything about recording you would know people don't wanna hear vintage, dark, dull, colored, sounds people wanna hear, clear, clean, uncolored sounds but I realize you know nothing about audio obviously.
It definitely isn’t made to be hit hard at all. I do like the eq on it though. I love the preamp and eq. I would only hit the compressor lightly, but for the money, you should be able to really push it! 🤷🏾♂️
You missed the plate voltage on the Art. That’s one of the coolest features, run it in high plate voltage and it’s just more refined and clean without any brittleness/harshness... just nice and smooth and high end sounding.
When you want to go dirty kick that off, and you get a different animal.
It’s worth experimenting until you figure out the different ways the gain/output knobs respond with plate voltage high or low.
Thanks for the review. Good job.
Dope! I never knew about that. I’m going to try it out! Thanks
Honestly I like the grit and the imperfections of the ART! It depends on what your going for. If you want to drive your drums, bass, snare, kick whatever ART is the go to for Saturation. Avalon to me is cleaner and smooth!
u r right
You know you're supposed to press the plate voltage button in? When not lit up, the preamp is running the tubes at a low voltage (cheap preamps like these Behringer tube ones do this, it's called a starved plate design - because the tube is being run in "starvation" by having not enough power to work as it was intended to). Creating a higher voltage (100-200V) for proper tube operation costs money, this is why manufacturers often go for starved plate. In the ART unit you can switch which one you want. From the manual:
The PRO MPA II takes about 10-30 seconds to smoothly transition from one mode to the other. There is a slight increase in gain in the “High” plate voltage mode.
In the “normal” (OUT) position, the tube distortion gradually rises until it smoothly clips. The tube is run almost completely open-loop in this mode, providing a musical tube “crunch” when overdriven with a natural recovery from clipping. The tube section can be more easily overdriven when the gain switch is in. This mode brings out the harmonics in the input sources, particularly stringed instruments.
The tube circuit runs extremely clean in the “high” (IN) position of the plate voltage switch. As signal levels rise distortion remains very low until within 6dB of clipping, where the overload characteristics smoothly limit the signal swing. There is increased bandwidth (>100KHz), and headroom in this mode as well.
So you might want to revisit that one!
I actually thought the ART unit worked better with that vocal mic. I thought it was warmer and more even. The 737 revealed a little harshness in the upper part of the mic that I didn't hear when you were using it with the ART. I also thought the ARTunit was more versatile, tone wise. You could really hear the quality of the tubes with the gain switch employed, plus the variable impedance adjustment was very cool. While the Avalon was definitely more pristine, and accurate, that's not always what you're looking for from a preamp. Sometimes you want color. Sometimes you want character. The ART unit simply won in these regards.
Next time, maybe you can compare the 737 with the ART Voice Channel. It might be a more apt comparison.
Thank you for doing this.
Thank you for this video. $3,866 vs $349. I bought the Art Pro unit. The difference for the price of the Avalon is not worth it. I run a Neumann TML 103 and a Chandler Limited through the ART unit, they sound great!
Definitely sounds like you’ve got a nice chain!
Don't apologize...remember the old saying...if it's too loud you're too old! Rock on bro! Subscribed!!
😂
That Avalon sounded hella clean.
Avalon sounds great as always ! I ain't mad that Art Pro MPA II except for when the light goes out ! Thanks for this comparison. This is exactly what i needed to help my decision making. While i love the expensive gear and all the bells and whistles, i'm starting to get into cheaper (in price) gear that sounds great as well. As an engineer, i strive to have the best sound for my client, but at the end of the day its not the gear what makes the performance sound good. They one line i get from most artist is "Make sure my vocal sounds crispy" At the end of the day the consumer of music is not going to be thinking about which mic pre was used. Great Video !
Great feedback!
Have replacement lights and tubes on deck.. it's man made therefore not forever
We'd be surprised how many hits was made using underestimated cheap gear
@@deandresmith5761 oh yeah for sure
plate voltage isn't on high
With all studio equipment, it’s about preference. Having a lot of tools is beneficial but what stands out is skill. I don’t own the outboard tube pre for the Avalon but I do have the UAD plugin emulation of it and I own a single channel Art mic pre and a Behringer ultragain vacuum tube pre, which all are nice but I prefer the behringer over the other 2 and it’s the cheapest out of all 3 🤷🏿♂️point is, get what works for u and ur workflow cause it’s not always about what u have, it’s what u do with it 💪🏿💯💯
🙏🏾💪🏾🙏🏾exactly
Thanks man this video sold me on the PRO MPA2. I've been recording myself rapping for like 15 years and finally I'm getting a badass tube mic for my birthday and needed a pre to run it through. Although the Avalon is way better, this video along with others showed me the awesome sonic characters the MPA2 can hopefully achieve for me.
Appreciate you doing the video, but if you're going to do a comparison, probably best to run the plate voltage high on the Art. The Avalon has a proper plate voltage (similar to the high on the Art). The lower plate voltage on the Art is a nice feature that lets you get a different distortion character but isn't comparable to what the Avalon is doing.
Appreciate that input
The Art has some great ways of shaping the sound - or destroying it altogether :-) No surprises with the Avalon - it's very clean until you push it, then saturates in a pleasant way. Thanks for the demo.
what you mean? art mpa II doesnt have any eq stuff that avalon has, Art only has gain and output knobs
*check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...check...! check...check...check...check...check...check... SMH, DUDE WTF???! All these singers out here trying to get shine.....*
Art products can hold their own.. these will make your way up to the big league
Avalon I liked better ,everyone has different taste ..great review thx.
i thought the art sounded way better surprisingly
I can definitely hear that 737 sound or characteristic, both are cool though.
I love driving the tube for vocals.
I have both - both really useful! You would think 200.00 per channel would sound bad or at least not be remotely comparable to 3800.00 per channel but it's just not the case. To be fair, my ART purchases over the years have proven to not physically hold up as well. Light meters fail, buttons break, etc.. The components are cheap as you might expect. The Avalon will easily outlive me! That said, ART's designs are really good and make the most of inexpensive components. They do work and they sound good enough for most of to use in the real world. And who doesn't love a VU meter?!
Thanks for the review! Raw but effective. Thumbs up.
I'm always doing the 20 db gain and the high plate voltage on things that I want to saturate more with the MPA. No doubt the Avalon sounds better but these 2 units are for completely different users. You can the MPA for $200-$250 street price or $350 new for TWO tube channels and the Avalon is $3000 for one channel and it's a much more complex unit
Would you recommend the art with the focusrite 18i20?
Dude i just discovered your channel, i am more of a metalhead when it comes to making music and i've been more used to guys like Glenn Fricker, Jens Bogren, Warren Huart or Khole,
but your videos are pretty cool when it comes to comparisons and gear ! liked and subbed !
Appreciate that!
What is diffrent between Art pro MPA and Art pro voice channel?
The MPA is just a preamp and the pro voice channel is a preamp, compressor, and eq in one.
Great comparison!
Appreciate that!
The compressor on the Avalon is horrible and under developed in my opinion. For 3.5K I expect more from this unit. Avalon is a waste of money compared to the Art Pro MPA II.
For real. I thought I was the only one who felt like that.
@@lightafluident.9950 nah a lot of producers and engineers feel that way. It’s got a great eq, but I’ve heard better solid state compressors perform better.
You didn't use the high plate voltage on the art. The Avalon is not a starved plate design.
I don't know where to turn on the high voltage. please guide
It's the button in the middle on the front that says plate voltage
Great video here. Very in depth comparison. Would love to see a wa 47 vs v 13 on these compared.
I’m getting art, can you achieve the same results with the Avalon ?
The art is definitely nice! However, I don’t think that you’ll get exactly what the Avalon offers. It’s more than enough to get the job done though!
I have the Audient id14 can i not bypass the internal preamp? Do you suggest getting a different interdace and adding 1 of the preamps shown in this video?
Yes, in order to bypass the preamps you will need the sends and returns on the interface. You are definitely not stuck with these two preamps as your only choices. There are many to chose from. That will depend on the sound you are going for. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
My biggest problem with recording myself is that I can't talk and listen at the same time and hear what I need to change... so i have to record a take, then make a change that might or might not work, record again, over and over.
I’m thinking on buying that mic... do you recommend it? I’m between the Lauten Audio 320, Avantone CV-12 and that Vanguard V13
I haven’t tried the Lauren audio 320 but I actually love this mic over the cv-12. My first purchase of the cv12 didn’t go so well. It produced a lot of white noise and I had to change the tube and the noise stopped. Once the noise stopped I sold it. Found out later that it was an issue that a few ppl experienced from the first issue of this mic. I loved the sound and purchased it again after missing it so much. After purchasing the v13, I couldn’t see myself keeping the cv12 any longer and let it go again. Lol. I love the v13 and cant see myself parting with it anytime soon. It will be my tube mic option for sure!
@@CLEANMUDVIDEOS I bought the Lauten 320 and am eager to try it, I saw some really great reviews. Seems like an all around great mic for the price. With that being said. I am trying to figure out the best signal path using that and a couple small diaphragm mics.
CLEANMUD VIDEOS thanks man.. I think I’ll just go with the Vanguard V13! It’s kinda like more “exclusive” .. very few people own that Mic, over here in Puerto Rico I know A LOT of music producers and none of them have it or know about this mic. And the few reviews I’ve seen look so good. Plus that. In the back to take out the heat of the tube is an awesome feature!
I'd be curious to see you using these to process some drum machines or synths
Things like drums that are tone clusters, or synths that are no where near a real sound, don't give a good idea on this kind of gear. I think any preamp on those things sound fine. It is on vocals and other acoustic instruments where pres like the avalon really shine. We know a human voice inside and out. When it sounds off we hear that fast. Drums are a thud, think, thin, its still a thud.
Damm educational! Wish I could hear it in person tho..
If you are interested in hearing the rap vocal from these two preamps, you can download the files from the description area of this video.
th-cam.com/video/YZ8E1fXpKco/w-d-xo.html
"And this is 32k, like whaa" cracked my ass up
You are the boss, Great channel !
Appreciate the encouragement!
Do you find the art pro good against harsh vocals?
Yes, it can help to tame some of that harshness. The tube mic preamps tend to have a rounder sound.
CLEANMUD VIDEOS am using u87ai with Apollo but i have a bright voice ones eq added the vocal gets messy even with DeEsser it won’t sound pleasing to the ear.. so am thinking about getting the art pro.... am thankful for any tip from your side..... thanks for the video
Mixat Studio / مكسات ستوديو have you tried turning your microphone a bit off axis to help with the harshness. If you turn it slightly to the right or left instead of having it pointed directly at you, it could help to tame some of the harshness as well
Great video! Thank you!
This has helped me a lot man, I am in the process of picking gear to put together my own studio. So since I am kind of new to this I have a couple questions maybe you can help with. 1) Where does the preamp connect to? 2) Would it make sense to run 2 mics into the ART PRO, say a large and small diaphragm condenser mic? I just want to make sure my signal path is correct. Thank you in advance, SUBBED!!
Excited for you on your journey! I have a video that shows how to connect the preamp to something like a Scarlett interface. The art pro mpa will allow you to connect both of those mics. What interface will you be using? Also, are you wanting to bypass the internal preamps in your interface and just use the art pro? If you are planning to bypass the internal interface preamps, it will depend on your interface
th-cam.com/video/nB0Igvx9G_o/w-d-xo.html
@@CLEANMUDVIDEOS thank you for getting back to me I will watch your other videos! And I'm not sure which interface I will be using yet!
I LIKE THE ART PRO BETTER , FOR SO MANY REASONS
How do you process your audio with such a high gain, I imagine you don't have to use a limiter? Also do you compress id you have a very high dynamic range. Thanks for your work
I do compress it. Also, I gain stage it. However, I don’t use a limiter on my vocals
@@CLEANMUDVIDEOS thank you sir, very useful information greatly appreciated
Very informative thank you
Yo brotha, in your opinion, are there any external preamps & compressors that link better than the Avalon vt737 with an u87ai in the same price range? Also, what would you prefer to run a u87 mic on? Appreciate you! (Shoutout from Southern MO)
Most definitely! I think that the la-610 is a nice option. Also, vintech has the x73i which is a preamp and eq modeled after a Neve 1073 type of sound. I’m a big fan of the Distressor because it’s so versatile in the kind of compression that it can do. I love the sound of it!
Very good comparisons and cool videos greetings from Switzerland
Vinzh 1991 thank you!!
Lol you didn't turn on the tube high voltage so tube wasn't working you was using it as just preamp which is great like the original cold plate .
I don't know where to turn on the high voltage. please guide
I can hear a hi exciter type freq in the avalon an also sounds a bit more natural
great review
It’s the law of diminishing returns. The Avalon is better, but $2,650 better? If you have the money, sure. But if not, I don’t think so.
I had Avalon 20 years ago, never liked it. It was clear and transparent, no saturation, no grit, compressor slow, clean, transparent, actually I hated it.
Probably a stupid kid expecting something unrealistic, but even today I do not see the point in having an expensive valve channel strip with zero character while you can get this clean, characterless sounds from your regular interface preamps. Maybe 30 years ago, but today not really.
Hey I got the Art pro and pro VLA but I can't get the VU meter up unless I turn the gain up on the knobs. And then the microphone clips easily. If I turn down the gain, then the VU meter doesn't move at all and is not using it's potential. I'm using the slate ml 1 microphone.
Sounds like u got a faulty unit.
I see the prices of the Avalon coming down since UAD dropped the emulation!
Honestly, they’ve actually raised on the retail price. The used ones are probably dropping. They were only about $2500-$2700 at first.
I got mines for $1200 from some rich kid on craigslist.
Which emulation?
I wish I could afford the avalon, compression and eq in the rack is so useful. :)
Go for an Art Voice Channel. It has Eq, compression, and a de-esser.
@@lightafluident.9950 I actually rented one and loved it. I paired it with an ART TPS2 preamp. I've never heard my mic sound like that before.
Avalon , Awesome!
Can I run the MPA on a master bus?
I’m not sure
Adjust your output volume! Does anyone ever check their volume?
Thank you!
Top channel bro 👍 is worth me getting the pro mpa ? Or should I just keep saving for the Avalon ? I do have the Avalon plugin from uad which I really love
Either route you go will be nice! I know guys that got rid of the Avalon hardware unit to use the UAD version exclusively. In a mix, you wouldn’t be able to tell a major difference in most cases
Pro MPA II is definitely worth it. One of the first preamps I bought when I got into recording and it still has it's place on my rack today. Sure, the Avalon is a better mic pre but it is in no way $2,600 better than the Art. Save that money and buy some nice microphones.
Get an Art Voice Channel. Great alternative to buying the Avalon.
check check check for a valve check check check...that got so brittle when you turned the volume up.. great video will not buy one starved plate pre amp any audio interface can do the same.
Appreciate you watching and giving your feedback
Good job
Thx for video, Avalon has sweeter sound like you said more musical.
Have you ever tried Avalon with Universal audio 610 tube preamp.
I haven’t tried that.
@@CLEANMUDVIDEOS their also good preamps .
I'm using GA73 MK 2 with SSL 2+ interface, also Slate digital vms ml1 sounds nice but some day I'd like to get like your preamp or LA610 with cla 2a build in . Thx again
LEAVE THE OUTPUT ALONE BRO, USE THE INPUT GAIN TO DRIVE THE PREAMP , IMPEDANCE AT 700 THEM YOU CAN COMPENSATE LATER IF YOU NEED TO
ONLESS YOU HAVE A TRANSFORMER ON THE OUTPUT YOU SHOULD NOT MESS WITH IT TOO MUCH.
SHALOM
Nice!!
Combine it with the art vla
MAJORCOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🙏My appreciation for this review.
Most def!! Thanks for the request!
CLEANMUD VIDEOS You’re welcome. I’m so glad I get to hear the difference between these two preamps. I can’t wait to see the next video!
those 20 db gave me a heart attack
6:20 What did you call me?
Rocky!!
The avalon is the most overpriced piece of junk in recording history. Shockingly horrible.
I can definitely understand why you could come to that conclusion
Facts. I like the mic pre on it, but I definitely wouldn't pay more than 1,000 bucks for one especially with all of the affordable new gear out there that's holding it's own against what is considered to be "vintage gear".
Hi Cleanmud, drop a rap track...waiting for that.
My music in in the description
@@CLEANMUDVIDEOS I like the clarity on the vocals bro. Sounds good. Do you do Christian rap?
3:30 9:27
night and day difference avalon sounds soooooooo much better
Not 3K better.
Stop the exaggeration
@@Mope333 ok i'm wrong then go buy a broke piece then and when your sound quality sounds like mud and shit i'll be here to tell you i told you so
@@RayoBeatz that’s a broke piece, so of course but how about one that’s not broke?
@@Mope333 how about you stick your head up your ass and use the shit inside it to record since you like mud sounds if you knew anything about recording you would know people don't wanna hear vintage, dark, dull, colored, sounds people wanna hear, clear, clean, uncolored sounds but I realize you know nothing about audio obviously.
Avalon compressor sucks. All that money, and the compressor stinks 😩. Unbelievable. Overrated
It definitely isn’t made to be hit hard at all. I do like the eq on it though. I love the preamp and eq. I would only hit the compressor lightly, but for the money, you should be able to really push it! 🤷🏾♂️