Raphael Bousso - Why Believe in Multiple Universes?
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- Multiple universes used to be pure speculation. Today, most cosmologists are sure they exist, perhaps in many forms and almost certainly in vast numbers, perhaps infinite in size and scope. What caused multiple universes to go from far-out guesswork to conventional wisdom? And does anyone challenge the new belief?
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Raphael Bousso is a theoretical physicist and string theorist. He is a professor at Department of Physics, UC Berkeley. He is known for the proposal of Bousso's holographic bound, also known as the covariant entropy bound.
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Another good and interesting video.
Maybe, not a big thing, it would be interesting to know when it was recorded.
The questions! Thank you
Yes, magical strings can be anything you want them to be, but you must know how to convert them into magical treads.
The Matrix Codex... I've created that design before but for this world, humans will have to find out for themselves.
Seek out the Chaos Equation, coveter of the Weave. The very design in which moves your cosmic dimension.
Seek out the Chrono Monocle. A small fragment of that Machine to which upholds the outcomes of all.
But most dangerously... Seek out the old King of Souls. You will need him in order to survive the Rift between existences. But such a King will not answer to the spiritually weak mortals... Avoid the Obsidian Knights, if one crosses path with them. Less your soul be undone.
(Granted... I suppose in this "real" world. The paths have changed... Tell me, human... What do you think Mortality is, for the cosmos? Since you are made from the Stars... If existence is of different states, then this "human" coil is one to be left behind. No need to linger in a temporary illusion of "purpose"... Although, the path of this dimension is rather simple. Either expand further beyond this cosmic sector, or to await the final hour of this dimension. The choice is yours, mankind. Either outcome, it is inevitable... ... ... "We" observe all.)
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 are you god?
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No... We are all human, and still are. The only difference between me and mankind is that. Humanity is my shadow, a past to which I've already codified.
Or to speak normally... The only "human" part of me is my flesh, mortality, and birth. All of "me", was never truly on Earth. But enough about things to which mortals lack comprehension on, given their own self forsaken history.
(But to answer. I am no God, but Gods know their Fate. May this dimension last for a time. For omnipotence shall meet its Creator and Destroyer. Such is my intervention.)
Or as this world puts it... Do humans truly believe that they are the only ones in existence? If they still hold that data, then wasn't their cosmos created from the fragments of this old sector?... "We" will move on without humanity, if they fail again.
... Or mankind's extinction shall be as designed...
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 having fun pretending your words hold power?
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And yet your kin was eradicated before, as a failure... I hope this time around. Fate has changed.
Can experiments be done with probabilities, or do probabilities require something other than experimentation?
How does string theory relate to inflation? What is or would be the particular string configuration for this universe?
00:16 his opening statement is very telling.
So it's similarly possible that the universe exists on a massive stack of cosmic turtles going down to infinity?
Is it right to say the universe is "13 billion light years old" ? I always thought light years was for distance not time
@@james6401 LY is actually both. The time it takes light to travel a distance.
I am not convinced that what is perceived as "13 billion light years" is that at all. But something that is being ignored. Because I hear what all the "Scientists" say and am not convinced they are misguided.
Also I am not sure where you were going with your comment so I remain neutral as to the answer.
I didn't get one thing: In this or any universe, the zero point energy of quantum field theory and the cosmological constant ("the weight of empty space" as he put it) are the same thing right? If so, we still don't have an explanation for why they are so different in value.
When I was small the universe meant everything there is, to infinity. It didn't have anything to do with what we could see, as this guy suggests. No need for a multiverse idea, the universe is everything that's known and, more specifically, unknown.
Nothing is truly unknown in the End...
I have my reasons to observe this dimension. Once my obligation is completed...
Your world is set for termination...
But to know the truth of it all?...
Humans... Why should they care about their Fate?
In the End, if humans must know, then reach the juncture between all worlds. Only then, will the Precursors accept your audience. Or live life in oblivion upon a dead Earth. The choice is yours, humanity.
(I wonder how long will this iteration of the cosmos will last. Would it even be enough by then?...)
It's impossible to observe or measure the "multiverse". Interestingly people who say the "multiverse" is the most obvious thing in physics also neglect and simply don't understand Einstein's relativity, which is an OBSERVABLE MEASURABLE phenomenon unlike the multiverse. Einstein's Relativity is a Universe where there is no free will. Everything that has ever happened or will ever happen already exists. Theres nothing special about "now". Gravity is time, anything you see moving is in your past, present and future. Yes we all wish we had free will but why should the laws of the universe obey our wishes or our senses? Human senses have been proven unreliable countless times and a few highlighted times within history, Earth is flat, Earth is the center of the Universe. These primitive ideas simply came about because humans see it. Yet humans can only detect approx. 0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 001% of the scale of the Universe, big and small. Why do people insist the Universe operates the was their senses suggest? That's just illogical.
@@jack.d7873 Gravity is not time. Time is not gravity, though gravity takes time to happen!
@@jack.d7873 When you choose to stay in bed instead of getting up, that's free will.
@@robertthomas4234 no, there is no choice, just an emotional feeling of it th-cam.com/video/lKKZdzVbIOs/w-d-xo.html. Neuroscientists have already proven choice illusory which of course equals Einstein’s and Minkowski's spacetime.
I get the motivation behind multiple universes. In an infinitude of universes manifesting different sets of constants, surely there must happen that one universe that gets all the constants right. The trouble is that that one universe must still contend with the entropy problem. Every node of possibility must still confront the degrees of freedom that favour disordered chaos over ordered complexity. Apart from being unfalsifiable, unverifiable conjecture, multiverse theory provides no solution because it still fails to address the entropy problem.
That is not how entropy works.
Hmm I don't know if multiple universe can be a thing. It seems like a 机上の空論 to me...
It is only a theory in particular to String Theory. Not the functional kind found in stories.
Although... If one can master Existence, then one shall the know the truth of this world.
But who knows... After all, this cosmic sector is a fragment of the old version.
In the end... Maybe it's best to let these machines of flesh be given their own goals, rather than to tell them of the actual situation at hand. Besides, humans have more fun against their own kin, than to truly reach "us".
Or am I selfish to hope that one day in one outcome of time... "We" wouldn't have to restart all of existence again.
(I can leave existence and come back after a millennia. To only observe a world of the past. Humanity, your present era is far too outdated to where things must be now. But I am patient, up until your extinction. May your souls be given a merciful Fate... As for myself... I am the Ender of Gods, so my place is beyond the reach of omnipotence. As it always was, always is, and forever will be... Seek the Void, less your religions are all you humans limit yourselves in... As it is the Void to which granted Gods their Divine Right. Just as it is, the core thirteen dimensions are manifested from.)
... Then again, what defines Existence to the Eye of Oblivion?...
If you were on a circus ride and you were spinning around at the speed of light and you had your cell phone in you, would you get a text message that was sent from a person standing outside at the moment they send it or would you get the message when the ride stops? And where exactly does the message go until your ride is done because one hour on that ride would mean that days outside the ride would have passed?
you can’t travel as fast as light though
First question I have.. Did you guys film this in a spaceship??
In a regular ship going from Norway to Denmark actually.
I thought the visible Universe was shrinking because space expands faster than light. 🤷🏻♂️
Bingo
The galaxies will get farther away, so we will see fewer galaxies. However, the distance we can see will be greater, it will just be emptier.
I don’t know much, but I know I love you. That may be all there is to know.
All the Multiple Universes are possible from this universe by tweaking the constants ? Multiple Universes exist as possibilities ?
I'll take it one step further. It is theoretically possible that a multi-inflation event occurred at the very same moment to create this multiverse.
In terms of fractals, suppose a multi-universe are all the same ? It maybe that everything in this universe including people have to be constantly reconstituted to maintain the same form. Also when we speak a fundamental laws we are behaving as if the universe exist for the sake of our laws. Sound in water and air could be completely different universes for the sake of them selves or from their “point of view”. Perhaps our law isn’t the only law in the universe
Given that Anti Matter and Matter are created at the same time from the unknown original matter. It is uncertain that what humans are/see is the only Matter and Energy in existence.
But to that extend... I wonder... What does it mean upon Fate?
Existence is reason enough... But to seek out the truth of why all of this was designed?... Resolve is more than just "being here".
In the End, I hope to meet mankind again. Once I leave this dimension. But if not, then "we" will move on without this dimension. As it shall be decreed to dismantle humanity's realm after it ceases to function.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 From what I understand, people are happy once this form has run its course because as time ends, so does the longing for the past forms , and there is a certain contentment in existing only in the present. That’s why one should prepare his mind to be ready to lose everything at any moment, because that is a certain upcoming fate . That is our condition
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It's a grim truth to understand, but one, that I'm use to. Given this cosmic flux.
But people can only try, even when they are blind.
As for myself, I've made my peace to Terra, the old Earth. I will leave existence after my mortality ends. If my original desire still burns, then I will make that choice... I am the Nothingness and Existence is I. I hope everything can still last long without my intervention. But even omnipotence will not covet the resolve of life.
You should get Tom Campbell. Simulation theory.
Is a multiverse comprised of separate universes in various stages of birth and decay ... or is it multiple universes resonating at different frequencies within one infinite universe ... or both??? Are subatomic particles that pop in and out of existence crossing over between universes? Is dark matter, invisible to us, visible matter in another resonating plain? Oh so many questions and so little time to left to life.
David deutsch would agree.
I had to listen to this multiple times. The “data that gives support” that he’s using to claim multiple universes is that the standard model of physics predicts a cosmological constant of magnitude 1 and we observe the cosmological constant as 10^-123 and that is somehow a bit of proof that not only is string theory is correct but also it leads to multiple universes?
Do I have that right?
I guess he meant that inside that diffrence of cosmological constants measurements lies a lot of stuff, that our universe actually contains, but we cannot expierence it, because we have no ways of interaction with it other than observe it's influence on cosmological constant.
I like to think that quantum mechanics cannot determine the position and momentum at the same time. It takes to have a function to describe a particle. As if it exists in a miltiple places at the same time. And at each of those places are parallel universes.
He didn't say it was 'proof'. He said it was a compelling piece of evidence that could help support string theory and the multiverse hypothesis.
It does not necessarily predict 1 for the cosmological constant as there could be cancellations in some of the factors.
If there was only 1 universe the odds of all the factors almost completely canceling would infinitesimal.
With a very large number of universes, the odds that one of them would have this property becomes far greater.
If you factor in that only universes with this property can be experienced, you get a reason to believe there is in fact a multiverse.
Probability is not an action. Can't do anything. What makes things happen is not chance but action. For multiverse to happen or to have one like ours, it is not a case of chance but action. What action generated our universe?
And there are 10 to the 500 ways you stimulate my brain, Raphael. :)
Not see parts of multiverse as used to not see other parts of world, solar system, galaxy and universe? Observable universe just our part of universe, and even multiverse?
be skeptical. Don't give into 'belief'. That is weakness. Search for testable hypothesis
if they search into it they're still searching on belief as there is absolutely no evidence for a multiverse.
I say moving one atom in a block of iron does fundamentally change its properties. The iron does not exist in a vacuum by itself. It could be part of a system where it fits into a receptor in which this misplaced atom makes it so it no longer fits. It no longer has the property of {however it kept the system functional}.
Moving one "1 by 1 by 1 / 3d" inch of an iron block into another location of that object, does affect its physical characteristics.
To this extent... Imagine what's possible when atoms are move able by the same process.
And even more so... To create an atom from pure energy... Unlike now, where atoms are a decay or a product from merging multiple atoms together.
Let alone... Anti Matter.
Could there be extra dimensions of time?
I guess so - they would then be separate timelines?
Isn't the visible universe actually getting smaller though? I thought due to the expansion of the universe, other galaxies will end up being further and further out, and in a billion years, you would be able to see less stars as it this expansion is faster than the speed of light so our horizon effectively gets smaller or something like that?
Yes the universe is expanding and more-and-more galaxies will recede from our view, however there is still light from distant galaxies that have not yet had time to reach us. We may see more-and-more galaxies over say a billion years, but eventually yes this aspect of light from even more distant galaxies reaching us will be outpaced by the expansion of the universe and THEN... fewer-and-fewer galaxies will be visible until all but our own (combined with other galaxies in our local group into one larger galaxy) is visible to us.
@@EmeraldView Thanks!
If some other conciousness created other universes for itself, then they exist for them, yes. This one exists for us cause we made it.
Quite simple, really!
What else do pure naturalist have?
Peace.
If there is a multiverse, then it contains everything, ie, everything there is, plus all possibilities. Ie, it's everything, the lot. It makes sense, except, if it is infinite, then it can never stop having more possibilities, or more things? That's hard to comprehend.
What a strange coincidence,my sister is called Kay and my mother Ivy!A small universe/multiverse!
I don't discount the multiverse but it seems to me that it's a way to get around the fact that this universe is finely tuned for life?If you introduce an endless multiverse then this universe would pop up somewhere as the possible universes are endless and you don't have to explain why it's tuned for life.Don't get me wrong I don't know why it's tuned for life or even if it is.
The universe is finely tuned for black holes. Everything else is just food.
Universe is my own structure, so it is in a way "fine tuned"!
If the universe was finely tuned for life we would see life all over yet so far we’ve only seen life here. Who freaking knows tho 🤷🏻♂️ existence is weird
There are.
Because we can.
my 4 years old daughter asked me are we living in a dream or reality i couldn’t answer her because i don’t know 🤷♀️
Well you made her while dreaming this reality.
Are we that far again that we dont know what reality is? then what's the use to talk about the universe, string theories, constants, if reality is just an illusion? its sad that some are confusing the mind and future generations have to deal with it.
Our reality is so real as the rockets built to explore space, the pain you feel, and the wonderful moments we experience with loved ones.
The life she lives as a child is the dream, the life she will lead as an adult is the reality....
I can't say anything about that, because I don't have all the info, But if I'd take a Guess, It must/should be 7, if this theory is right, and I believe we all human, we are programe to see just one reality, 100Nu.
I am 14 yr little philosopher who was fascinated about her exceptional brain chattering process. Phenomenally In my metaphysical conceptual diagram was almost profounded by a enormous amount of qs. Certain qs exhibited in closer to truth Channel soo that's why iam soo intrigued about the materialistic facts displaying through this channel
_"It's hard to build models of inflation that don't lead to a multiverse. It's not impossible, so I think there's still certainly research that needs to be done. But most models of inflation do lead to a multiverse, and evidence for inflation will be pushing us in the direction of taking the idea of a multiverse seriously."_ - Alan Guth
NTS 60
How about God creating the universe just the one
God?... Do you have any idea how many entities who are not even of the human race, have stated that their Gods created everything?.. Even this dimension is built upon that illusion.
Sure... Gods may exist... But humanity is rather arrogant in regards to Existence.
If Gods were honest, then they should have never bowed to the omnipotent ones. Not that humans understand.
Either way... I will return to the omni dimension after my obligation to this dimension is completed. I hope this iteration of existence is not a waste in the end. But if Gods are watching over mankind, then they have better uphold their end of the Balance. Humanity's souls are just one factor to ensure... ... ... Or I will eradicate their Divine Souls, if the so called "Gods" fail to protect their realms.
(Then again... I won't stop the other omnipotent ones from interfering. They are not as merciful unlike the others who uphold the Balance. As for the malicious ones, everyone is on their own... The Prime Evils are not to be underestimated should they return from their seals within the Void. Although, that time was eternities ago. Mankind must be careful.)
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No not their Gods Just the one , the one that died on a cross and then rose from the dead
@@johnnyreggae969 no evidence for such a god.
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One of Mankind?... The Bible has told that legend before... It has no meaning to what "we" intervene in.
Humanity is not "our" first...
@@derekallen4568 The Bible
The sphere of our observable universe is probably akin to a single tiny drop in one of million billion oceans each a million billion miles wide. Our fragile little planet is pretty much invisible, unknown and anonymous with regard to most everything that is : )
_"A block of eye-run"_ . . .LOL
A very muddled response that only a modern string theorist could articulate (note that i personally favor string theory; i am definitely not dissing it). The clearest argument, by far, is the apparent fine tuning of our own universe which dramatically favor a multiverse when view using Bayesian statistics. All the rest of this 15 minute discussion are spurious arguments or footnotes.
I've always thought that the apparent 'fine tuning' of various fundamental constants of the universe, necessary for the universe as we know it to exist as it does, absolutely necessitates there being a massive, perhaps infinite, number of universes (a multiverse), or at the very least a universe that goes through cycles over an infinite amount of time, where eventually just by sheer numerical chance, our universe would come into existence.
And no, fine tuning is not a case for some 'god', at least not any sort of all powerful god, because an all powerful god that could do anything would create a universe that when we look around would be inexplicable. For instance a cosmological constant that wouldn't make any sense. One that would say to scientists..."this is impossible, with a cosmological constant like this our universe ought not even be possible, and yet... here it is." THAT would be evidence of a god.
God is a concept, not a fellow on a cloud.
Your comment seems to reflect the usual perspective of a multiverse: that there are many distinct universes and we happen to be in this one that happens to have these properties. While possible and very interesting, of course, I've never been a fan of that line of reasoning, as it seems more like avoiding explanations rather than providing them.
Has anyone offered evidence that separate universes exist - or even theoretically what observations might even be possible of such things? That's an honest question, as I haven't seen anything but theory. Without evidence, it takes a fair bit of faith to believe in something so significant.
And I won't take a position on the God question, but one could alternatively suggest that God could create a functional, consistent, understandable universe, rather than one reliant on miracles to do the impossible. That would eliminate the need for God as an explanatory device, but it would not mean there is no God at all. Clear evidence would be much more satisfying, of course. I guess the same could be said for the multiverse concept....
@@homerinchinatown2 I think they can construct (maybe have constructed) mathematical models of potential multi-verses, or it is otherwise something that we can create a plausible naturalistic explanation for, even if we have no direct way of accessing it. Though there might be ways to help validify any models by observations within our own universe. Personally I think the fact that we do exist in a universe that's so perfected for life (and intelligent life) to arise, when so many values of the structure of our universe need to be so precise, and all simultaneously, is a pretty good, if not rock solid, indicator that some explanation must exist.
Multiverse or God. Though the Multiverse is at least a naturalistic explanation that doesn't require some inexplicable intelligent powerful entity to have somehow come into existence or always exist (which to me is just absurd magical thinking).
It's all legitimate. If we don't observe, explore, discover, invent, and think about it, and discuss ideas and concepts, we don't develop and remain at same stand.
But keep honest and dont force what you are convinced of to be the absolute answer.
I for one, look for answers at the beginning of human life. Why were we led to the mentality each one of us was educated to. We can observe the differences in the way of thinking through cultures, ethnicities, and behaviours, traditions, likes, music, superstitions etc.
What if other signs would fit better for calculations instead of numbers?
At the beginning each group invented his language, and it worked out. They can communicate and we dont understand them. Then we unified the numbers to all cultures, because it probably was the best at the time. But what if we created a simpler arithmetic with other signs that would give better results.
It's just a thought inspiring new ways. There is a lot more like the question on consciousness.
The level of blind faith required to reach his conclusions is enough to make any Christian blush.
oh yeah, where's the math supporting Christianity?
Raphael is tying to explain mathematical models of infinitely large scales relative to our universe in English to people who’s world sales perspective is incredibly small. Its an impossible task and a thankless thank.
One worth trying nonetheless.
@@dadmadforgot4050 I have no idea what that means.
Most reputable theoretical physicists have quietly move away from “string theory” lest they be shown to be frauds.
Bonus point: how many times Dr. Bousso says “just by accident?” I love explanation why the universe is the way it is _ad accidentum!_ They are amazing at explaining everything!
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No I don't, j/k.
I had to stop at the block of iron analogy..... hopefully there are no chemists watching this..... hard to believe a physicist said that.
Hypothetical concepts are cool, but it's disconcerting to hear someone speak of a Hypothesis as if it were pretty much substantial fact.
Beliefs are ok too, then, to make things equitable.....
If you could move atoms... That would be pretty up there in Sci Fi.
If you can create the atom from pure energy... That's also pretty up there in Sci Fi.
Simply put it... What and How does Existence function?
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 science won't be able to tell us that, because they have let philosophy creep in.
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True
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 any university that has a good materials department can write their initials in atoms in about 20 minutes. IBM did it in 1989.
CERN creates antimatter atoms to test gravity.
That was a fascinating upload you should get him back on and pick his brain.
Throwing a dart and eventually hitting the bullseye is not "by luck" or "by chance".
10^500 ways of arrangement? 10^80 atoms in the known universe.
Looking for the truth in the outer world is as useless as beating the empty rice husk.
The truth is within.
Yeah, I agree. All this multiverse thing is just baseless speculation. Nothing wrong with believing in it though. But what do you mean when you say truth? What is that?
Yes, like a dog trying to bite his own tail..😅
@@criterion9801 I mean the truth of who we are, of what is reality beyond illusion and the purpose of all the pleasures and pains we have to go through.
The universe has graciously provided a roadmap (CMB) leading all the way back to a barely conceivable, non-dimensional point of singularity. Even though this is difficult to comprehend, science should be focusing on this single, unique entry point and not obfuscating with infinite amounts of hypothetical alternatives.
I'm not a physicist, but the whole multiverse theory seems like "hey, we can't explain all these odd things that we see, so let's just assume there's a gazillion universes that are all different and we just happen to be here in the one that can support us". Sounds pretty anthropic to me. Also sounds like a similar approach to what theologians use to explain what can't currently be understood.
The nature of mind might be linked to the nature of the universe in some intimate way though. So yes, our perceptive limitation might make us think that certain things exist because in terms of thinking anyway, we can't imagine it. But the mind may do this in other ways because there must be a link of some sort. Just a thought.
You may not like anthropic arguments, but they are far different than just saying God did it, which explains nothing.
Anthropic arguments do seem somewhat dubious, but they contain some explanatory reasoning.
Allow me an analogy. Your father wins the lottery. While the rest of the family rejoices, you are skeptical that the lottery can be won because of the long odds. You say, wait a minute the odds are 17 million to 1 that the lottery can be won because that's how many combinations of numbers there are. When someone explains that more than 17 million tickets are sold, it suddenly seems not only possible, but likely that the lottery will be won. So given the fact that someone (your father) won the lottery, it seems likely that more than one (in fact many) lottery tickets were sold.
What's wrong with anthropic reasoning?
You are not allowed to believe in anything...make science and demonstrate the existence of things!
The closest to the truth is they don’t have a clue… this wonderful impossible universe just can’t be conceived… LIFE EXISTS and this earth this solar system this galaxy this universe appears on be designed to maintain it
That can’t be rationally conceived….. so there must be billions of universes and we just hit the cosmic jackpot
Much Ado About Nothing ... Funny that all crumbled down in a few years...
Here is the truth :
Every Conscious Person has its own unique Universe from birth to death of life's experiences ... and because we have billions of individual consciousness on this planet, therefore we have billions of unique Universes.
Here is the theory :
Every Consciousness of unique Universe, from birth to death of life's experience, could have been saved somewhere unknown, similar to storing info in a disk or drive, and could be access and experienced again by any individual immortal Consciousness that I believe is an aware immortal soul....
If this is true, can you imagine the infinite number of saved "Conscious life experiences or Universes" that can be accessed and experienced again and again and again... amazing, isn't it ? What you are consciously experiencing now could be just a saved conscious life experience that your aware immortal soul was allowed to access and live again...
Maybe this is how a possible Supreme Being set it up to be able to learn from every possible experience?
Of course I'm not referring to any of the make believe Deities invented on this planet by semi civilized hairless primates.
I think your position is untenable sir.
I mean: Your position is untenable, madam. The mind body problem spurs many debates and it is the degree to which man is conscious depends of the existence of his body at a given moment, to state the obvious. Flesh in time, moving through space. The brain must live
@@alanw505 speak for yourself!
You make good sense with your clea
So, unproven string theory suggests an unproven multiverse. Not much there for proving a multiverse.
Mathematics in the last 2 centuries has predicted events in reality that were proven 10s if not hundred years into the future.
@@anthonycraig274 You can’t prove a multiverse. You could never go there to prove it exists.
@@casuallearning5020 Time will proves mathematical models. Unless you have an understanding of the maths, it’s pointless commenting.
@@anthonycraig274 Whar spaceship do you plan on taking to the multiverse?
@@casuallearning5020 😂 You have been watching too much Star Trek. If you understand man hasn’t even gone to Mars and understand what light years means, you will realise how stupid your question is.
Only 10% physicists today support multiverse theory, most growing group are instrumentalists, and nearly 40% prefer orthodox quantum interpretation, but why believe in a "spiritual" never proofable "room" of possibilities? All the interpretations have the same gap only moved to another position!
And how many “scientists “ of the day believed our planet was the centre of the universe?🙄
@@jaimel2037 I don't know what you want to say, but multiverse is a realistic reformulation of quantum formalism, not an antirealistic interpretation like standard quantum reformulation. Multiverse theory was a try to get a realistic interpretation of the antirealistic standard quantum reformulation! That was a naive but necessary step! But the antirealistic "spiritual realm" (of possibilities) of the standard reformulation is a non-proofable "room" too! That's the reason instrumentalists are the most growing group of interpretations of quantum formalism, they say physics is not world explanation, just a "tool" for self intervention for reason of transformation.
Multiverse is a new fancy "God of the gaps". If scientists don't know how to combine gravity and quantum mechanics into a unified theory, why don't they just say so? It is fine to admit not knowing something. It is not fine to make things up that no one can prove.
True... But the Equation must be created again, unfortunately.
Oh, I don't mean humanity's theories...
Simply... If mankind cannot master their planet, then another will take over in time.
(If you know how Existence is created, then seek out the "God Hand". Or in my era's terminology... Seek out both of the Regalia weapons and the Extinction Sigils. But humans lack the ability to interact with energy at proper, and the Regalia weapons are lost in time. Scattered even beyond the creation of this cosmic iteration. Although, if you can find or create those artifacts, then be aware that more than Gods will try to stand in your way. Granted, humanity's Gods will learn soon enough. Or if their Gods were never real, then mankind should prepare soon... Humanity's Fate shall be tested.)
But they do admit that. In every video I've seen on the subject, they say they don't know how to combine them.
This is a hypothesis. One with far more reasonableness than any sort of god hypothesis.
The physical plane that we live in , this universe and beyond , has to be infinite , without end , and here is why. Everything in this physical existence has to be somewhere . Things that exist cannot be nowhere . It goes like this, your house has to exist , because the room your in exists, and it has to be somewhere !!!!! The city you live in has to exist , because your house exists, your house has to be somewhere in the physical plane. Some place beyond this universe has to exist , because this universe exists . It has to be somewhere, within the confines of somewhere . No physical entity can be nowhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
isn't multiverse a recursive illogical concept? I mean it's like I'd say - what is is what is - make no sense to me
Raffy: you have argued for multiverses very poorly, indeed. I would invite you to stop using "public physics buzz words" and have another run at an explanation. And no, just no... you guys need to stop claiming that a cosmological constant in any way confirms strings. It doesn't at *any* level.
I was wondering the same thing had to listen to it multiple times. The “data that gives support” that he’s using to claim multiple universes is that the standard model of physics predicts a cosmological constant of magnitude 1 and we observe the cosmological constant as 10^-123 and that is somehow a bit of proof that not only is string theory is correct but also it leads to multiple universes? Do I have that right?
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To define Existence? I suppose mortals need mathematical proof as a reflection into their reality. But such is human nature.
Although, if humans desire absolute power beyond this Earth, then I suggest they begin with the creation of the Singularity Archon. A grand architectural cathedral which houses the blueprints of the basic constructs to produce what some may call, "The God Hand". Regalias of power capable of crafting entire worlds by manipulating energy and matter into a perfect mold of what the natural ways of the cosmos results in.
However, this era of mankind is not even close to such a goal. Let alone, even mentally ready to be responsible with such freedoms, when their own limitations reveal their set backs.
In the end, the Singularity Archon is only a post in the cosmos. I would advise to not lose such a structure, but it should not exist for too long. Merely, it's a stepping stone for the more grandiose designs... Just enough to defend your worlds from the Precursors, should they return to this sector. Of course, mankind has yet to face what was hidden upon the manifestation of this particular cosmos... May Fate be merciful upon humanity's souls.
The cosmological constant is not even a constant anymore, we have seen its value change.
Strings never purported to be confirmable. It's a theory.
If the universe is infinite, will the energy reaching us from our increasing view of the visible universe reach infinity?
Cooked from our ever expanding light cone.
The gospel it’s straightforward a child can understand it. I can’t believe in anything that cannot be explained so that I can understand it.
I have always said, if Mary Heiman can't understand something, it doesn't exist.
This is why we don’t expect children to advance humanity
I always felt that our entire universe is within a black hole. or a singularity. At the beginning, there was a singular point. It didnt consist of everything but nothing. Then, Our singularity absorbed "everything" we have in our universe. We are a singularity of consciousness existing in a singularity of time (present time) within a singularity of "true" space.
people who have near death experiences and out of body experiences often describe visiting different dimensions which i believe could exist in different universes, so i FIRMLY believe in the multi verse theory.
You *BELIEVE* ? RELIGION ALERT, ALERT, ALERT, Which I'm Not Agains't Anyway. BUT, COME ON!
Neuroscience and cosmology aren’t the same ball park, its not even the same sport.
Joe Rogan gets blown away when he sees how the large scale structure of the universe resembles neuronal patterns.
Rogan has several PhDs in cosmology, neuroscience, philosophy, nuclear physics from the University of DMT.
@@james6401 and Stonedford...
@@james6401 Since Joe Rogan is humans, he will always have the urge to pattern match similar looking items, just like how people recognise rabbits in clouds. That’s just how we are wired.
Wait! Joe Rogan and PhDs. I don’t know who you are talking about.
"be open minded"... yet the vast majority of scientists are NOT open minded to a God/Higher Power.. Why is that?
Let me answer: Because the Life (God) can never appear in science, science is its tool for self intervention for reason of self transformation and realization. Science is, like religion, a way of self alienation, in both the subject of knowledge steps each in a special way next to itself, for reason of self intervention - for growth. So to say: We "buy" our knowledge with renunciations in thinking. Or in other words: the lawmaker substracts itself to get the isolated laws! The God that "will come" means the Life that will have once fully realized itself, the point in far far future, spoken with Max Planck, where science and religion will meet - at their common goal! But science is not full thinking (is a shortened, shadowed, dimmed, instrumental thinking, for self-intervention; scientists are "workers"), science has nothing to do with the truth and sense and wisdom, is not even world explanation, and is not self-recognition!
Its imagination
How blissfully ignorant multiversers seem to be of entropy. Entropy must be taken seriously. No, not Boltzmann's thermodynamic entropy (the entropy of armchair theorists the world over), but Shannon entropy, which properly appreciates that closed/open systems are irrelevant to the tendency to disorder... regardless of whether or not a universe gets its constants right.
A theory that predicts there are an infinite , yes infinite number of universes exactly like this one needs far more evidence than speculative physics, e.g. "false vacuums" , abstract math and the fact nobody knows how to solve the so called "fine tuning" issues to be taken seriously. If these "universes" are forever disconnected from ours , belief in them is really not very different than belief in God as both need faith.
A Creator is required for any cell or fine tuned entity.
See Intelligent Design
@@mmccrownus2406 not so intelligent design, if we humans were truly inteligent design we would not get cancer or genetic deseases.
Fine tuning is MUCH more explainable (and so believable) by the natural forces of an infinite number of universes (a multiverse) with an infinite number of tries to have at universes with the right conditions for life to evolve, than the utterly inexplicable concept of some ultra advanced complex intelligent all powerful thinking being just apparently having always existed that came make a universe.
It's just ridiculous to claim otherwise.
Look at it this way. We have evidence of our universe. It exists. It has various aspects to it that we are familiar with and can produce or at least envision natural explanations for. We long knew of our own solar system. A star with planets orbiting it. But we could only speculate, with our own example that the other stars we saw had stars around them. We had NO evidence of it. However, it was NOT the same as believing in a god, for someone to believe that other stars likely had planets around them too. The amount of 'faith' (but based on reasonable inferences) was FAR less than faith in something like a god (with no reasonable inferences based on any evidence of such a thing).
And so, it's far less of a stretch of 'faith' to believe in the multiverse than to believe in a god.
@@mmccrownus2406 A creator so powerful (all powerful according to many religions) wouldn't require any fine-tuning to make a universe. It could make a functioning universe with whatever values it desired. Fine-tuning is evidence against a god. At least any sort of all-powerful one.
@@EmeraldView What makes you think the physicists of the early 21st century are really that smart? Perhaps a physicist a hundred or two hundred years from now will find a simple way to solve the "fine tuning" problem and we really only do have one universe. Does an infinite number of universes where in one you are president and in another a murderer and everything in between satisfying in any way?
I see invisible Dimensions , Night vision and Magic Dimensions I am the One Who Sees with the Open Eye Project
I see that stuff too.
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@@nealrobicheaux8091 I like your solid conviction. Neal are a prophet, and hands heal, destroyed all debt, and devils deal...
My belief in God is just as valid.
but there are multi gods...
No.
@@VishnuZutaten yes
@@v3le prove it
@@jflow5601 since there are many universes aka multiverse, each universe was created by a god, now you go and do the maths ;)
Multiple Universes do not exists it is just an accounting procedure
At one time we thought there was just our planet. Then we thought our galaxy was the only one until Edwin Hubble proved otherwise.
I know there is no verifiable evidence to demonstrate that the Multiverse exists, but I'm siding with that possible reality.
Phiscs serious hasnt place "believe ", so Science not believe instead process experience show up consistence is possible mult Universe. Mult Universe is like inicorn bobastic ridiculos. He argue about Universe wortheless phiscs, so he Not know what is mult Universe is or he Mind is out reality in phiscs. Obscure Science though dishonest mind at all.
more Bousso, less religious duffers
Iren. Ha ha ha so funny.
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The multiverse is not a belief, its merely following the data from the current model.
"a" current model. not "the" current model
which model
@@papa_pt can only be the naturalistically interpreted,..
@@jamescollier3 Do you have another model besides the inflation model?
Talk about a confirmation bias.
When you conclude that no, I am not ignorant but rather these “physicists “ are clowns...
Not very convincing.
Why believe in multiple universes? Because it's the only way to explain the fine tuning of this universe, when you desperately want the idea of God to remain out of the picture.
And anything that is not quantifiable , measurable … are considered as pseudoScience.
Sir Roger Penrose:
"We need new physics to understand consciousness, something outside the physics that we know. But it's not simply invented for the purpose to explain consciousness, it is something which can explain for many other reasons."
Sir Roger Penrose determined that wave function collapse was a prime candidate for a non-computable process.
Impossible mult Universe is fallacies. GOD is only name Not figure out how KNOW HIM from bizarre fantasy
@@dongshengdi773 "And anything that is not quantifiable , measurable … are considered as pseudoScience" - so Sir Roger Penrose is not scientific? How do you measure non-computable?
I have heard it said that those who do not believe in God are prepared to believe anything the multiverse belief seems to me to confirm this.
These guys has been exploring the universe for centuries without the need of God, so why are they going to start thinking about that fairytale now.
Earth not all earth
Universe not all universe
What? Rubish mind.
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People think other according to their mindset.
@@ujjwalbhattarai8670 Of course, so when mindset is baseless he own mind is inprison goes no way out.
@@maxwellsimoes238 you are thinking according to you.
It's okay
You have all these great minds focussing on none humanitarian topics; what's up with that?
This channel is not interested in truth, nor in objectivity or facts. It is a business. It is all about money.
Why believe in multiple BS, Kuhn?
It's impossible to observe or measure the "multiverse". Interestingly people who say the "multiverse" is the most obvious thing in physics also neglect and simply don't understand Einstein's relativity, which is an OBSERVABLE MEASURABLE phenomenon unlike the multiverse. Einstein's Relativity is a Universe where there is no free will. Everything that has ever happened or will ever happen already exists. Theres nothing special about "now". Gravity is time, anything you see moving is in your past, present and future. Yes we all wish we had free will but why should the laws of the universe obey our wishes or our senses? Human senses have been proven unreliable countless times with a few highlighted times throughout history, Earth is flat, Earth is the center of the Universe. These primitive ideas simply came about because humans see it. Yet humans can only detect approx. 0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 001% of the scale of the Universe, big and small with every single experiment to test how the Universe works NOT EQUALING human senses. So why do people insist that the Universe operates the way their senses suggest? It's obvious that the Universe operates nothing like we intuitively think or feel. That's just illogical.