Should You Buy Keyscape In 2024?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ต.ค. 2024
- Here we are again, another year of Keyscape. Is it a buy?
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Yeah, the plugin is cool, but your playing would make a toy Casio keyboard from the ‘80’s sound like magic.
hahaha, challenge accepted
RIGHT??!!
This guy plays like I do in my dreams lol
yeah, and I thought I was ok -- sigh
Honestly I don't watch this channel for the reviews, even though they are phenomenal. I watch this channel because of his extremely talented and moving playing. I dream of playing this good. And every time I watch this channel I am never disappointed. Thank you so much for your work.
thanks!!!
You can hear the countless years, months, weeks & hours this guy has put in his practice. There is an endless amount of emotion and loads of different interpretations at display here. A true master at work!
thanks :)
Your jam on the double felt piano is so full of emotion and sentiment. I forgot about the review aspect of the video during that. I could listen to you play like that for an hour and get inspired by every playful melody and harmony of yours.
thank you!
dude, the playing you did on the wash piano... you are a gift from God, man 🙏
Thanks!
Bruh!!!!! Been watching you off and on for a minute now. I said to myself..."this brother can play... but I feel something different coming from his playing." Aha!!!....he knows some Kirk music. Nicely Done!!!!!! You really inspire me, man!!!
I’ve got this video playing in the background just to hear this guy play! Stellar musician👌
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I just bought it during Christmas, I've had my eye on it for years....Just wonder why I didn't do it sooner. I Love the fact it's ready to play out the box. I have the Montage8 and it blow their pianos out the water in my view. I just want to play not really a tweeter person and thats what this product is, there's user's saves if you want to adjust. I Love the product. Nice playing as always
thanks :)
The answer is always yes! But it's even better when you load it through Omnisphere and use the Keyscape Creative sounds as well
Yep!
This!!!!!!
What di you mean? Can you please explain? I am going to buy Keyscape soon. I already have Omnishere. Thanks!
Sounds lovely, I especially like all the casual eye & nose scratches while playing 😂 you make it look effortless
I sometimes have the worst allergies on the face of the planet haha, so I get a little itchy
Just love your playing. It's mesmerizing.
thanks!
YES. I've tried many other piano VSTs, and sure there were some good ones, but I always come back home to Keyscape. When you pair it up with Omnsiphere, oh man, the sky is the limit.
Sky is the limit
Got there to show a friend some of the sounds of this amazing piano vst. Stayed for the talent. Congrats man, you're amazing!
thank you!
What an absolute pleasure to watch this video. You should get paid by them :) The library/plugin is REALLY good, but Sam is just INCREDIBLE.
Thanks!
Amazing playing. Thanks!
thanks!
Bro! You can play your tail off!!! Got chills a little bit for a moment there bro!!! I appreciate your musicianship
thanks!!
Great playing as always. Sharing this with my brother so maybe he will finally install the copy of Keyscape I gave him. He doesn't realize what he is missing.
he doesn't!
I came here for a VST review and instead I got tears in my eyes from this guy's absolutely amazing playing TT
It gets the bearded seal of approval. Nice to see a preset choice of just piano sounds that include the sound environment. I've put midi in old pianos, the piano remains the same but now the sound is alive and up to date.
thanks for watching!
Keyscape is worth the price in any year. Their EPs and 80s Rhodes sound better to me than the originals in the 80s. Back then youd have to do alot of processing to get that clear of a sound in 1985-88..If you have a pro soundcard in your system and killer monitors this is what you need.
Agreed, honestly you can find a ton of great pianos out there. It's hard to find Rhodes like Keyscapes
What are killer monitors? Mine are OK but there has to be better.
@@ryanryan6207 What soundcard first? I like my sound card on the board so I use LYNX E44 ( since I know this company and I still have their Lynx 1 & 2 cards). I never have latency issues with this card directly on the motherboard. Monitors are subjective. I want a full sound with volume so I use the KRK 10-3 but there are better out there but I stay with the ones Im used to.
I use HS80's @@ryanryan6207
Without a doubt the answer is YES! It is one of the best plugins I have ever tried!
yep!
IK's Pianoverse has changed everything for me. You're basically hiring a bunch of superb grand pianos for about £4 a week delivered to you're home and you don't have to tune them... ever. Superb! 😎
Pianoverse is great. I did a few videos on them if you haven't checked them out
My god your playing is stunning on that Wash preset I was like "MUST REMEMBER VST DOESN'T MAKE YOU GOOD ON KEYS"
thanks!
OMG 😵
MEGA SUPER FANTASTIC PLAYING !!! 😱😱
I'm so jealous of you hahaha !!
And thanks for the video, I'll buy Keyscape for sure after what I've heard !!
thanks for watching!
wish you could just get 20gbs of keyscape instead of 200gb or what it is. I'm using Addictive Keys (or Xpand2!) for piano, and found it to be just fine. Specially for the price. Dope to hear you play piano
thanks! Yeah it is big. I have several harddrives haha
When you buy it, it comes with a lite version that is about 20gbs, no? At least I remember this was available to me when I first bought it
as a professional classical and jazz pianist I've tried most of high end piano vst's. I found VSL synchron CFX probably to be the best, but I my macbook pro m1 or macmini m2 can't really handle it, unless using only "couple of mic" samples. Ravenscroft it's quite good, keyscape sound great but has ridiculously small dynamic range, you can't really make any true pianissimo or fortissimo. Garritan CFX is the only one I use everyday for concerts and teaching, it sound incredible, has massive dynamic range, basically feels like an expensive grand in every aspect.
CFX is one of my favorites. I'd probably do the same if I was teaching or playing more concerts. For the type of music I'm typically playing in, Keyscape is great.
@@SamTheBeardGuy thanks for reply :) great videos. I can't wait what AI technology will bring to this industry in the coming years. I'm pretty sure within few years an acoustic piano will remain only a luxury item.
Play bruh! Glad I stopped by!
I brought it the two months ago and
currently it heavily now. So yes it’s definitely worth buying in 2024
yep! It's great
Man, I really like your musical taste and playing style. Such a good vibe…
Thank you for always giving us
quality contents.
just writing a comment to help out. you are very talented - i am already a subby
thanks!
I've always been a Roland guy, especially with piano sounds, and every time I hear Keyscape it resonates like the Roland sounds. Cousins, I guess. 😎
I grew up on Roland, love Roland
Eric Persing over all of the design! Roland & Spectrasonics!
Great playing - good review. Some of us haven't bought it yet so it's still relevant!
So beautifully moving..
thanks!
best pianist ive ever heard sam thankyou
thanks!
I think the question of Keyscape or not is irrelevant. It is definitely one of the top 10 virtual instruments that would be on anyone's list of keyboard specific sounds. And it comes with a lot of sounds.
So its really a question of - Do you like it or not? And can you afford it? And do you have the hardware to run it reliably?
Or let's ask the question another way, what is the alternative. I do not think there is an alternative, cos there is nothing else with the same collection of sounds, and programming. Does not mean it is the best out there, but each keyboard instrument or sample, virtual software or hardware or even a real acoustic or electroacoustic, will have its own sound.
You pick what you like, and what you can afford to own.
Definitely Keyscape will always remain one of the most relevant collections of keyboard sounds available to keyboard players.
So its a question of budget and priorities. If you budget for keyboard sounds is only $100, then sure Keyscape is not for you. BUt if your entire budget for keyboard sounds is $1,000, then its a question of - is Keyscape important enough for you to fit this within the $1,000 budget or are there other keyboard sounds which you'd prefer to buy 1st. If your budget for keyboard sounds is $2,000 then of course it would be easier to consider that Keyscape will be one of your tools, within that budget.
So Final answer - it depends. On your personal priorities for choosing a musical instrument, and your budget.
Yep! Lots of great libraries out there that are $100. Question is if you just want one piano, or a million
It is almost perfect even in 2024. New free samples upgrade like felt piano may come. Think that how often do you upgrade your grand piano?? :) it is not a synth engine like Omnisphere. it is sampled piano. sympathetic string resonance should be added.
I agree, there are a few things that would take it to the next level. But I don't think I've ever used a piano library that has 100% of what I want, there's always a few things missing.
Yes, it's stil my favorite plugin. (Sam, your loading time is about six times faster than mine)
haha, yeah, i have a brand new m2 mac
It's still the best vst in the business for acoustic and electric pianos. I use it for composing and live playing, and anything else in the plugin department it's just one step below. Keyscape and all the Omnisphere package as a whole is literally so good anyone can sound good on it.
Spectrasonics puts out some good stuff haha. Thanks for watching!
You make that look so easy!
I own Keyscape and think its great, even in 2024. Instant like for your playing 👍
thanks!
Keyscape and korg D1 is a great combo 👍
yep!
In the best way possible your playing puts me to sleep, like I listen to it to relax my mind enough to fall asleep, I would listen to 8hr loops of you playing all night!
Damn son i just came here to see what keyscape is about didn't expect to hear a whole ass tear dropping concert
another comment- you are an incredible piano player -- beard 10/10
thanks!
I heard Phil Wickham’s “First Noel.” Nice! Beautiful playing!
yep!
Dont sleep on Pianoteq!!! Modeling has come a looooong way. And no fussing with huge sample pools
Wow, great demo. Felt like Terry Kath was gonna drop in on Colour my World...
hahaha :)
you are absolutely insane on those keys WOW!!!!!!
thanks :)
Great video! I bought Keyscape in 2022 but could never get a velocity curve that ever made it sound right. And no ADSR on something that expensive was a deal breaker for me.
Lovely playing mate
:)
Sam, I always love your playing. I think I found you from piano reviews. I feel like your style is similar to mine, but you’re much better. 😊
thanks :)
I'm with Keyscape....I just want great presets, i'm not a sound designer, thats why I pay good money for their expertise sampling and creating great piano sounds. Great review. Pianos sound great, I already have the Ravenscroft 275, so not sure if it's worth me buying this library as well, but woah do they sound lovely
that's why most people love it. Thanks for watching!
I think Ravenscroft and the Keyscape grand piano are not that different. I prefer the Ravenscroft which I used for my last couple of gigs with guitar and vocals. It is a bit more detailed and has a slightly better response imo.
@@danny.ray101 I’ve spent sometime this weekend with my vst’s. I’ve upgraded my Pianoteq to version 8 and have managed to get a decent warm sound out of the Ravenscroft pianoteq version. Using mono and a pop eq setting. Sounds good through my Yamaha STAGEPAS 1k. Not sending it through any other software like MainStage or a DAW. Just through pianoteq’s gui.
the only things keyscape is missing are EPs from keyboards like KORG 01/W, KORG Trinity, Roland XV-5080, Ensoniq TS-10, Yamaha S80 etc
yeah, it still has more than most haha
You’ve got mad playing skills, bro
thanks!
Keyscape is the only one grand piano samples that give me kinda "I'm actually playing piano" feel when closed eyes and with good hammer keyboard ;) to me - it beats Nord Stage and many others (just my opinion). I've tested NS4 last year and was soo dissapointed, and thought - again - of course the real thing is better, but plugins rock these days.
It's definitely a great time to be alive.
The only thing I'm not happy with and maybe more people would agree with me is the size of the library. Pianoteq Pro does not use samples. It generates sounds through an algorithm. In my opinion, this is the future of music. You can generate any sound you want at the time
I love PianoTeq, but I don't know if I see every library going this direction. I probably have 10tb worth of libraries, it just kind of comes with the territory. It's only going to get easier and easier for computers to be able to offer more storage, think 25 years ago when 256mb floppy disks were in, now we have 10tb harddrives. The size of piano libraries probably won't get any bigger, if anything they'll get smaller as lossless compression gets better. I just don't know that the incentive is there for every developer to fully do modeled pianos.
@@SamTheBeardGuy In the end, all that matters is the quality and price of the library. I agree with you on some points, and I think the libraries whose sounds are recorded are actually realistic pianos. It's not like software that generates piano sounds through an algorithm.
I use Keyscape as my main sound library. Started releasing solo piano music 18 months ago and almost at 30k monthly listeners on Spotify now.
Keyscape is pretty good but it does have it's issues like no sympathetic resonance if the pedal isn't held down, or the fact there's' a glitch with all G#s (especially G#4). If you press down too hard on that note (velocities too high) it leaves a overpowering buzzing sound that just kind of drags on. Very hard to hear for most people, but it's quite noticeable once you use the software enough.
Yeah it’s not perfect but most people won’t hear it. There’s some phasing issues too, but most people don’t hear it
You have that many listeners because of your artwork for the albums/presentation. I’ve seen this countless times now on Spotify and online streaming in general. You could be using any piano sample or playing at any quality in general, it’s nothing to do with the music itself.
@@markfowlermusic What a bold assumption.. Yes I choose my artwork purposefully and think of the brand image as a whole.
But all you need to do is just look at comments in my channel or on social media to see that people appreciate the music itself too. It’s completely cool if you don’t like the music, but you’re not other people.
People also buy my sheet music as well. There’s no artwork there, just paper and notes.
Edit: Just want to add, you do have some truth in what you say about album covers and artwork being important in streaming. But music being decent is also important.
@@EdinKaso_Composer yes but we’re talking very low numbers here regarding yourself, this is not criticism or me trying to upset you in any way, please don’t think that, but I’m trying to make a point, you have 700 subscribers on TH-cam and 26k listeners on Spotify, something doesn’t add up, I have 265k subscribers and 13k Spotify listeners I think, my artwork is trash and doesn’t reflect anything people would want to click on if they searched Spotify, my listeners are purely from TH-cam alone… yours are unique from Spotify and definitely not from youtube, this doesn’t take a genius to work out does it? Again I’m not having a go at you I’m just trying to make a point how important artwork is, the artwork and image is now more important than the music itself, people are clicking on the nice looking artwork albums and singles and don’t know what the music itself is like or care for that matter after they click and follow, it’s just something to do, you could be playing on a Casio privia sample or a technics piano from 1992 as opposed to keyscape. Any growth on Spotify is not down to the piano sample you use.
@@markfowlermusic I get what you’re saying. I think image and art presentation is a big part of it for sure.
But I also think social media and streaming algorithms are just completely different beasts. I’ve done a lot of research on it. I’ve also seen a lot of musicians who do well on social media but not on streaming , and vice versa. One is a entertainment platform, the other is an audio platform. They overlap but aren’t the same thing.
My ratio is pretty typical for a instrumental artist though. I could name dozens of pianists who have a much larger following on streaming than social media like YT. I think we just tend to not focus on growing it as much. For example, I usually spend a few hundred dollars every month on Spotify ads directing all traffic to my Spotify profile. I don’t bother doing that with TH-cam. And a lot of artists tend to do the same. B/c streaming is what generates us the money, not youtube.
Hey Sam, do you think Keyscape is worth it for Sunday worship services? I really want to get it, but I'm hesitating because of the cost. I'm mostly interested in the LA Custom C7 and upright and won’t be using the other sounds. I’m also using Native Instruments (Grandeur, Gentlemen, Noire) but wonder if I’d be missing out by not having Keyscape. Appreciate your advice. Your videos are a huge inspiration to me!
Thanks! Keyscape is great for church. Keyscape comes pretty processed, so you don't have to do a lot of processing to get it where it needs to be. If you applied the same processing to Keyscape that you did other libraries it would be over processed.
It's hard for me to get through your videos because I'll be watching you play and I'm just like "Dang that looks like fun I'm gonna go play my keys."
Hahaha, that's honestly all I want. Go practice.
What a great pianist you are. Thank you for mesmerising me
Bro casually just plays the coolest melody I’ve ever heard and not even 10 minutes in 🔥
Inspirational playing. Great job mate, Keyscape or not.Thank you for sharing.
thanks!
How many hours per day have you been practicing since you started playing? By what age did you start play the piano? Do you play any other instrument?
My new years resolution is to learn two new instruments this year. The clarinet and flute.😊
I started at 5, got my masters in music. I don’t practice much these days, just play a bunch of
That “ Double Felt Grand “ will take your breath away
It's amazing
This is the only vst out there that sounds like a Nord i have this and use this on my mp7se and it’s a very luxurious feeling
:)
I can only imagine how many years you’ve been playing for 😢. Your technique is dummy crazy. Respect
Thanks! I've been playing 27 years now, since I was 5
@@SamTheBeardGuy Respect bro,, I admire your playing
It was in music store since 2016 but I never knew this was so great, I wish I knew, luckily I bought last November :))
It’s great!
It was a regular price it didn't go on sale. It was the regular price. Everything else was on sale Native Instruments and Aturis
Can you make a video showing us how you record your piano with such good quality?
That's not a bad idea. I'll add it to the list of video ideas
@@SamTheBeardGuyok thank you so much!! 🙏
You should do some collaborations with other YT musicians. It would be cool. Great video.
Yeah I’d like too!!
it SOUNDS good. each individual note is clear, but it sounds choppy and feels soooooo ridged under the fingers, especially compared to pianoteq.
Its like there is just random noise dropoffs that happen.
This feeling I am feeling right now... I think I should buy a piano and Keycape. Thanks @SamTheBeardGuy
:)
John Lennon would have loved all the quirky piano emulations on Keyscape. I've have Keyscape for years and I still think it is the best piano VST plugin.
kick ass musician. Great playing Sam.
Thanks!
Its for sure the most "done" sounding piano out of the box as far as I've tested, addictive keys and arturias piano V3 are really great but doesn't give me the same "Feeling" as when playing with keyscape :)
The "german classic clean" is decent, but I agree with you that keyscape just adds another dimension of magic! The arturia seems to lack a bit of low-end compared to keyscape, in my experience at least! Expression with keyscape is on another level@dsus1471
I've had success with the grands adding some of the hammer noise under the advanced tab and eq'ing out a subtle bit of low end@dsus1471
It's hard to get a worse sound than Addictive Keys to my ears
Don't own it personally but tried it out once and wasn't super impressed, whats your goto?@@marLamaDeo
@dsus1471 The German classic clean (2nd preset) Ive used a couple times
Definitely yes! I compare piano libraries nearly every year and I think Keyscape is still the best (especially because of the Rhodes and the Roland MKS-20).
The rhodes make it stand out for sure
I FINALLY discovered the plugin that Hillsong YF uses on their song "Pride of a Father". That piano sounded TOO good to be a Roland lmao
Man you could pull up FL Keys and sell us that with how good your key skills are. Wonderful.
Yikes hahaha. I haven't opened up FL in like a decade
Your video finally made me take the plunge. Sheesh, you're an incredible player! Would you mind sharing which midi keyboard you use?
I use the Korg D1. Glad you liked it!
Wonderful review. You also play beautiful piano pieces, thank you for sharing your talent. Manifesting another few zeros on your subs.
thanks!
If I could play like you do... ANY software will work and sound good... even free VST's!
Hahaha, not entirely true. I’ve played a few terrible ones
like everyone has said, your playing is incredible. do you hear the chords in your head before you play them - as in, is every chord and progression intentional? if so, is that perfect pitch or just a really strongly developed relative pitch? maybe my questions don't make sense. just want to learn about how amazing improvisation like this is done
Thanks for watching! Over time the relative pitch just becomes natural, you can hear every note before you play it. Just takes practice.
@@SamTheBeardGuy thanks for the reply!
Fantastic Sam! Love your playing! Has anything changed with Keyscape besides the felt being added? I’ve got so many other piano VI’s I haven’t loaded it up since I got a new Mac. I’m, maybe, too picky, but I think it lacks the tone I like. Some of the notes on the Grand stuff seem to have a mid range so so sound, that comes to my ear as rinky.
They added a capture recording in the standalone, but nothing has really changed that I can think of.
There is still no better sounding or more authentic sounding Rhodes or Wurlitzer's out there than what you get with Keyscape.
I'm a drummer, but I love keys, but when I record our band, I just record the keyboard players midi and run it through Keyscape if that's the sound we're after.
Now if only they could make a B3 that sounds as good as the IK Multimedia B3X, I wouldn't have to go anywhere else for those sounds.
Still VERY WELL worth it.
For organs I'm a huge fan of the waterfall. Keyscape Rhode are great.
I've never heard a real Rhodes or Wurlizter than sounds like the Keyscape ones.
@@SamTheBeardGuyWater fall comes in second imo to the B3X
You're playing sounds amazing and fun!!
One question: Do i need to buy Omnisphere to use Keyscape?
nope!
your plugged in and unplugged my mind with your playing dude. Who the hell are you?
got mine for christmas :)
awesome!
great playing !
i‘m a beginner Roland fp30x and pianoteq 8 stage is my combo :)
Its a difference between day and night for the internal sounds.
nice playing 👌🎹
Thanks :)
I just discovered your channel, and I will follow you more. I have a question, which master keyboard are you using here?
Korg D1. Thanks for subscribing!
Thank you very much!
Great game, great tool!
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First preset sounds exactly like the GTA 3 theme
Well that makes me happy, GTA3 is one of the best games ever
Keyscape is really great, no doubt. Unfortunately, it falls apart performance wise if you're operating in anything over 48kHz and that's after contacting Spectrasonics and talking to them about dropouts and general performance drops at higher rates. I operate in 96kHz and my clients want that and after being told I should just use it in 48kHz, I was pissed. I'm not going to all the bother and go back to 48kHz just so I can get the performance I expect from such an expensive plugin at 96kHz. It's about workflow and speed. So, sadly, until they sort that out (it's now 2024) it's not useable for my studio and I go to Rhodes V8 Pro and hardware synths. I'm not sure why this is an issue with Keyscape and why they haven't fixed this, it's kind of embarrassing and highly annoying.
I can't speak to this at all because I never work in 96khz. It's probably hard to go back retroactively and make the product work for a sample rate that they weren't considering when they made it, the products 8 years old. 96khz is still the minority now, and was way more the minority when the product was made. But I hear you, I'm sure they'll consider some of the higher sample rates whenever they release a new Keyscape.
@@SamTheBeardGuy many people I know were operating at 96kHz 8 years ago, including me. I've got VSTi's that easily and flawlessly dealt with that. There is no excuse.
Thanks Sam, Excellent performance, I decided to buy Keyscape. Please what AUDIO INTERFACE are you using. I will play live. Thanks in advance.
This was beautiful af
Is all of your playing in this video improv? Or songs you know? Absolutely amazing either way.
Mainly improv, but I throw in some familiars here and there. Thanks for watching!
You're a fantastic player! I was wondering, which midi controller do you used with keyscape?
I love your playing! What style would you call the first piece/jam?
haha, it's the SamTheBeardGuy noodles
Awesome playing and demo! Is there any post processing done on your end or is this all coming out of keyscape and recorded directly?
I sometimes add a touch of valhalla vintage verb, but 95% of what you're hearing is natural
@@SamTheBeardGuy I mean if you are not adding VV to everything you crazy! Thanks for the reply brother.