Had a question, how do you identify the problem areas to sweep and isolate the actual issue, is this a scientific thing based on the frequency of specific keys/octaves/notes, is it specific to the richness/thickness/thinness of the vocal, I have a decent ear but know nothing if the science of frequencies as it pertains to music, which is the hardest part of trying to make music
@@vincemurrain9617 yes because when the track is mastered everything will get louder but you are correct in that focusing on the frequencies that are disturbing at only +4db first will yield more accurate results before touching ones that are like +12db
Devvon always come thru with exactly what i'm looking for, just pops up on my recommended . Been supporting since the futuristic days. You've been helping me along the way in multiple ways. Thank you.
for me you are more than a school broh grace of your video i become a pro in mixing so keep going like that you are a blessing for many im haitian im not affraid of any bad vocal i feel more confident now i need a videoo about the limiter broh may God bless you
After Multiband compression, basic eq(3 moves) serial compression(3 compressors)and volume automation, the best thing for me is the fader, just pushing and pulling until I find a sweet spot, and personally I just automate the louder parts post compression, gives a more natural sound and also helps me not to overthink, especially considering eq and compression are literally just very specific volume faders
I find a full sweep can still be beneficial as long as you can tell the difference between a frequency being loud (i.e. when you raise it during the sweep) versus it being harsh. A good sweep just accentuates frequencies' "character".
Holy shit dude . Thank you so much. I’ve been practicing the things you’ve been preaching, and trying to implement the rules you’ve been teaching, and I’ve been able to get my LUFS up to -7 db w/o distortion. You explain things really well as if we are students. All that stuff about clearing up the gritty ness, and controlling the low end for your final mix has left me w so much more room to boost the final product. I’ve come across a siq EQ that fortunately came w my universal audio interface called pultec EQ. And based off all the knowledge you’ve dropped, I’ve been able to apply controlling the low end through the pultec, as well as boost/ attenuate the other frequencies to my liking
Awesome. Thank you for this video, my engineers can't hear the harshness that is driving me crazy. You've empowered me to fix this myself and send the vox back to them.
If you guys don't have the money for Soothe2 ($277 USD/$289 CAD), Baby Audio as a super dope and powerful alternative called Smooth Operator. It's $69 USD (~$88 CAD) and legit does the same thing. All that said, Soothe2 is incredible and definitely the superior plugin, but it's the parent of the two. And before you become a parent, you gotta be a kid. Remember that.
Using a deesser is good idea if harshness is at that freq. Good stuff. Mulitband compression can also be used and isn't limited to silibant range. Nice video!
I always knew there was a pain frequency in some of my songs. I had a feelin of where to look at but didn’t know how to handle it. I really appreciate this vid and I would feel like this will really help.
Great help. My voice does the same. Today a A/B'd two reference tracks "Holla -by MAX " and "Disaster - by Conan Grey" the Max song felt to harsh to me. The Conan song had possibly my favorite vocal clarity and warmth. This will help me get to the Conan vocal sound.
@@ProdbyTrehnt I use my own setting. I let it work hard in the 100-400hZ and 4K-8K area. I keep the action on the smooth side. You have to A/B a lot while you adjust the sensitivity after that I work with the wet/ dry mix until I find a good balance. Assuming you're setting it up for vocals.
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Hello devvon, a big fan here since you started with the tutorials. I learned a lot from you, thank you! In fact, I always find my vocals harsh and I am very dissatisfied with the F‘s and S-sounds ... despite a De-Esser & Eq. The longer you work and try to fix the problem, the more you lose track of things. Could you maybe take a look at my last cover video and tell me what you think about the vocal production? And how is it from the Harsh level? Would appreciate it very much!
Works great doesn’t it 😁 i have a rode NT1 and my channel strip is PRO! like literally I just Eq out the bad frequencies and high pass up to 120hz and then I use 2 compressors, slow attack fast release and then I use a multi presser just on the really sharp region like -2 db. I raise the highs around 5k by 7 DB and get that sharp clear autotune sound without the harshness 😁
At this point, it's no longer the software. I've become proficient with all the tools at my dispose. My question is do you have advice on breathing/vocal chord care or bettering? I've got post nasal drip and a mild lisp, my mixes can be a nightmare.
@@dcsbeats739 Take your good mixes then make plugin presets and create a template. Using these as a starting point could help with your consistency. All the best 😎
PureMix has an Ear Training Frequency Quiz, it's totally free. Check it out if you want to improve your hearing. But nothing beats experience, the more you practice mixing, the easier it gets to hear frequencies. All the best 😎
That's easy. When Pre Fx is selected, any of the effects chains and plugins don't affect the Fx channel (reverb, delay, etc.). So the signal gets routed completely dry. The Fx channel also becomes independent, when you bring down the volume fader on the original track it won't affect the Fx channel. Going Pre can be great for things like sidechaining or parallel compression/saturation. But most of the time you will find yourself using Post over Pre so that the signal you're sending to your Fx channel is well controlled by your processing (eq, compression, saturation, etc.). Always experiment and do what works best for the music. Hope that helps 😎
@@audiospectra thank you brother imma still little bit confuse but I appreciate your explaination. maybe Imma experiment how it works towards to your answer.
@Help Me Devvon Can you go through your vocal chain ( eq , compression , etc. ) within the context of the beat instead of showing the differences in solo ?? Your videos are mad helpful on everything 💯
either or works really :) it depends on the voice/mic/room, if the vocal is very harsh gong in I might treat it before processing it, and if my processing adds some harshness I can clean it up with soothe at the end
My question is how can we bring back the clarity in the vocal After deessing it ? , also i think when we boost the clarity in the high shelf side , the harshness will back again
Thanks for this tip bro! Question; Recently I've been struggling with reducing that nasal/scratchy 1k-2k frequency range. Sometimes I find myself spending way too long trying to find it. I think it's because the parts that have that harshness are so quick (Like a particular consonant like the letter M, N and a soft S sound" that I can't tell where it is. Do you have any tips on approaching this nasally sound?
@VinoBeatz I did actually! It takes patience to learn but I came up with a strategy to battle those. Im happy to discuss with you but it's a tedious process. You got Instagram?
Devon Im about to buy your previous headphone akg k371 ... and because you had it before can you please tell me you reccomend me those haedphones??? I be so thankful if you reply me , thanks!
Honestly your befores always sound better than my afters. Its not like im ass at mixing more than the next bedroom producer, but your videos r always "how to fix a (Insert problem here) vocal) and then the vocal never actually has that problem. Its just a dry vocal. Maybe i am ass or its just my processing but my drys sound about like yours, maybe with more room boxiness and i have a ghetto ass setup. And afterwards my shit sounds like garbage and my car cant even take the highs its all crunchy and embarrassing
Bro a dirty recorded vocal with a cellphone, How would u improve that I got vocals From a friend in Nigeria he recorded with his earphones using an iPhone... Recording has some paper dirty sound... Dont know how to fix it...
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Had a question, how do you identify the problem areas to sweep and isolate the actual issue, is this a scientific thing based on the frequency of specific keys/octaves/notes, is it specific to the richness/thickness/thinness of the vocal, I have a decent ear but know nothing if the science of frequencies as it pertains to music, which is the hardest part of trying to make music
This is also good to just hear what specifically to look for when sweeping, because of course if you crank ANY frequency it's gonna sound bad
Exactly any exaggeration of a frequency is gonna sound bad but if you can identify the problem area then it’s much easier to make a better decision
If you can't hear it(the problem) after boosting +4 then is it really a problem???
@@vincemurrain9617 yes because when the track is mastered everything will get louder but you are correct in that focusing on the frequencies that are disturbing at only +4db first will yield more accurate results before touching ones that are like +12db
Fam…you be right on time with these videos!
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Devvon always come thru with exactly what i'm looking for, just pops up on my recommended . Been supporting since the futuristic days. You've been helping me along the way in multiple ways. Thank you.
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You know. I always be going back to these videos whenever i get stuck 😂
you got my sound coming together keep them coming
for me you are more than a school broh grace of your video i become a pro in mixing so keep going like that you are a blessing for many im haitian im not affraid of any bad vocal i feel more confident now i need a videoo about the limiter broh may God bless you
You’re amazing at what you do, thanks for helping engineers out here God bless fam ❤️❤️
After Multiband compression, basic eq(3 moves) serial compression(3 compressors)and volume automation, the best thing for me is the fader, just pushing and pulling until I find a sweet spot, and personally I just automate the louder parts post compression, gives a more natural sound and also helps me not to overthink, especially considering eq and compression are literally just very specific volume faders
I find a full sweep can still be beneficial as long as you can tell the difference between a frequency being loud (i.e. when you raise it during the sweep) versus it being harsh. A good sweep just accentuates frequencies' "character".
the trained ear is real ! always sound crazy trynna explain it to ppl around me lol
Holy shit dude . Thank you so much. I’ve been practicing the things you’ve been preaching, and trying to implement the rules you’ve been teaching, and I’ve been able to get my LUFS up to -7 db w/o distortion. You explain things really well as if we are students. All that stuff about clearing up the gritty ness, and controlling the low end for your final mix has left me w so much more room to boost the final product. I’ve come across a siq EQ that fortunately came w my universal audio interface called pultec EQ. And based off all the knowledge you’ve dropped, I’ve been able to apply controlling the low end through the pultec, as well as boost/ attenuate the other frequencies to my liking
Awesome. Thank you for this video, my engineers can't hear the harshness that is driving me crazy. You've empowered me to fix this myself and send the vox back to them.
ProQ 3 can reduce dynamically like a de -esser. Makes it super convenient.
yep, just right click and hit make dynamic . using the de-esser in that way screws with phase
@@LeeOnTheTrack So it’s better to use the Pro Q3 or RDeEsser ?
Your harshness videos have been a game changer for me. Thx ✊🏾
Yup!
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honestly... this guys amazing.. just saved my mix and I didn't even know it needed saving.
I usually follow the note or frequency. It just helps me understand
If you guys don't have the money for Soothe2 ($277 USD/$289 CAD), Baby Audio as a super dope and powerful alternative called Smooth Operator. It's $69 USD (~$88 CAD) and legit does the same thing.
All that said, Soothe2 is incredible and definitely the superior plugin, but it's the parent of the two. And before you become a parent, you gotta be a kid. Remember that.
Wow you shocked me with this one . I hope I can cure that paper sound effect with your tricks .
Using a deesser is good idea if harshness is at that freq. Good stuff.
Mulitband compression can also be used and isn't limited to silibant range.
Nice video!
I love this EQ method. Such a great technique and you have simplified it well.
You’ve been a huge help always here when I need some assistance
I always knew there was a pain frequency in some of my songs. I had a feelin of where to look at but didn’t know how to handle it. I really appreciate this vid and I would feel like this will really help.
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Great help. My voice does the same. Today a A/B'd two reference tracks "Holla -by MAX " and "Disaster - by Conan Grey" the Max song felt to harsh to me. The Conan song had possibly my favorite vocal clarity and warmth. This will help me get to the Conan vocal sound.
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great well explained video - i normally use dynamic eq on the pro q 3 for them problem areas
Great suggestion to d ess any harsh frequency, thx Devvon!! 🙏🙏🙏
Soothe2 can sound really good if you set it up right. I normally do run it at 50% wet letting a little of the dry sound come through.
I struggle with soothe ... when i bypass it my vocals actually sound better 😀
What do you settings look like or do you use any preset
@@ProdbyTrehnt I use my own setting. I let it work hard in the 100-400hZ and 4K-8K area. I keep the action on the smooth side. You have to A/B a lot while you adjust the sensitivity after that I work with the wet/ dry mix until I find a good balance. Assuming you're setting it up for vocals.
These vids are just Gems. When I blow up and they ask who helped u engineer yo music. I mm def mentioning you. And finna stress to watch yo vids cuz yo vids fr gems 🔥
You always come through for us. Thanks for sharing 💪🏾
It was great but, I wish you played the resonances in solo mode.
Hello, please can you do a mixing tutorial with an inexpensive microphone?
Thanks for the insight, I gotta try to translate that into my DBX 286s.
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On point! Good stuff bro. Keep it up!
Thank you bro! Great video and very helpful 👌🏽
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Hello devvon, a big fan here since you started with the tutorials. I learned a lot from you, thank you! In fact, I always find my vocals harsh and I am very dissatisfied with the F‘s and S-sounds ... despite a De-Esser & Eq. The longer you work and try to fix the problem, the more you lose track of things. Could you maybe take a look at my last cover video and tell me what you think about the vocal production? And how is it from the Harsh level? Would appreciate it very much!
Great work on the information
I like to use multiband compression for this.
Works great doesn’t it 😁 i have a rode NT1 and my channel strip is PRO! like literally I just Eq out the bad frequencies and high pass up to 120hz and then I use 2 compressors, slow attack fast release and then I use a multi presser just on the really sharp region like -2 db. I raise the highs around 5k by 7 DB and get that sharp clear autotune sound without the harshness 😁
Thank you so much bro!!! 💯
damn that's really good tutorial
What an excellent video sir
At this point, it's no longer the software. I've become proficient with all the tools at my dispose. My question is do you have advice on breathing/vocal chord care or bettering? I've got post nasal drip and a mild lisp, my mixes can be a nightmare.
Thanks for your videos bro cause you really help me to become a better engineer
I'm struggling to get my sound consistency here for the lesson appreciate the information 📝🧐
When you say sound consistency, are talking about dynamics (getting consistence between the loud and quieter parts of the song)?
@@audiospectra like one mix I'm getting good to decent results next mix be garbage , next one to misses the mark as well
@@dcsbeats739 Take your good mixes then make plugin presets and create a template. Using these as a starting point could help with your consistency. All the best 😎
@@audiospectra appreciate it
My biggest problem with my songs are my harsh vocals....Appreciate your suggestions.
easy good breakdown on cutting harshness , Btw what type of headphones are you using?
Wow was just struggling with this yesterday
Welp struggle no more!!
Thanks for your videos :)
This one slapped
Hey this tutorial is effective was dealing with this glad to have found more info, quick question why is your ProQ3 in MONO please gimme feedback.
the voice in a track is mono so that's mainly why
Because you don’t mix mono vocals on a stereo track
Please make a video on ear training how you train your ears
PureMix has an Ear Training Frequency Quiz, it's totally free. Check it out if you want to improve your hearing. But nothing beats experience, the more you practice mixing, the easier it gets to hear frequencies. All the best 😎
What if you got vocals where it sounds like you just woke up a lil too much
So cool this dude
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Whats the Problem with sweeping? You hear what sounds bad and make it lower in volume
Helped alot
Bravo!
Gracias amigo.
Can u tell us how to remove background noise like ur recordings, great video
Wow,thanks bro. It came exactly at the time when I was struggling with harshness in my songs.
Good one ☝️
You too hard Devon! PAUSE!!
😂😂
Great Channel
I need that song
🔥🔥 dont watch but i know its gonna be fire.
Also Harsh Lighting On Your Face. :) Great Video Man.
Can you make a video of the difference between ( Post Fx & Pre Fx )
That's easy. When Pre Fx is selected, any of the effects chains and plugins don't affect the Fx channel (reverb, delay, etc.). So the signal gets routed completely dry. The Fx channel also becomes independent, when you bring down the volume fader on the original track it won't affect the Fx channel.
Going Pre can be great for things like sidechaining or parallel compression/saturation. But most of the time you will find yourself using Post over Pre so that the signal you're sending to your Fx channel is well controlled by your processing (eq, compression, saturation, etc.). Always experiment and do what works best for the music. Hope that helps 😎
@@audiospectra thank you brother imma still little bit confuse but I appreciate your explaination. maybe Imma experiment how it works towards to your answer.
@@ozlee5418 Yeah, you just need to experiment to get the full picture. All the best.
@Help Me Devvon
Can you go through your vocal chain ( eq , compression , etc. ) within the context of the beat instead of showing the differences in solo ??
Your videos are mad helpful on everything 💯
Hey Devvon in what order would you use the soothe2 Plugin? In the beggining of the mix chain or in the end?
either or works really :) it depends on the voice/mic/room, if the vocal is very harsh gong in I might treat it before processing it, and if my processing adds some harshness I can clean it up with soothe at the end
Before and after
Before = commit or freeze that track then mix and use it later to smooth any harshness added from different effects
If not at the end of the chain, then at least towards the end of the chain. More like you would use a de-esser.
Can you teach us how we can balance beat very well
Which camera and lense are you using? And Great tips you are giving out for free🔥
Thank you
you should use the natural phase instead of the zero latency
I've always listened to your Mixing and Mastering there is always a problem of harshness.je fix that with ozone dynamicc Eq and exciter that's all
Please show us how to mix afrobeat vocal
My question is how can we bring back the clarity in the vocal After deessing it ? , also i think when we boost the clarity in the high shelf side , the harshness will back again
Agreed, I deal with this issue a lot
Yh me too
What’s up hit you up the other day about help with a template I purchased from your site
What a goat video
Why do you start real tight on your q.
Thanks for this tip bro! Question; Recently I've been struggling with reducing that nasal/scratchy 1k-2k frequency range. Sometimes I find myself spending way too long trying to find it. I think it's because the parts that have that harshness are so quick (Like a particular consonant like the letter M, N and a soft S sound" that I can't tell where it is. Do you have any tips on approaching this nasally sound?
I also have been struggling with finding this. It’s so subtle and quick.
Did you figure it out?
@VinoBeatz I did actually! It takes patience to learn but I came up with a strategy to battle those. Im happy to discuss with you but it's a tedious process. You got Instagram?
@@prodyeti yeah it’s vinobeatz_
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Dope
hi devvon pls i made a purchase on ur site some weeks ago and the digital download isnt still available
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How does this compare to using the 🎧 sweep option?
But devvon i got a problem where my vocals got a whistle frequency how can i remove that? Can u help me devvon?😢
what's with stompbox effects what are they used for
do engineers used them on vocals
i've never seen any tutorial with stompbox plugins use on vocals
Devon Im about to buy your previous headphone akg k371 ... and because you had it before can you please tell me you reccomend me those haedphones??? I be so thankful if you reply me , thanks!
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@devvon what do you think about the Sibilance plugin from waves for dessing?!
What mic are you using ?
goat
My voice is literally one big resonant frequency not even joking. There is not a deesser/dynamic eq in the world that can fix it😓
Honestly your befores always sound better than my afters. Its not like im ass at mixing more than the next bedroom producer, but your videos r always "how to fix a (Insert problem here) vocal) and then the vocal never actually has that problem. Its just a dry vocal. Maybe i am ass or its just my processing but my drys sound about like yours, maybe with more room boxiness and i have a ghetto ass setup. And afterwards my shit sounds like garbage and my car cant even take the highs its all crunchy and embarrassing
Bro a dirty recorded vocal with a cellphone, How would u improve that I got vocals From a friend in Nigeria he recorded with his earphones using an iPhone... Recording has some paper dirty sound... Dont know how to fix it...
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