oh this is awesome! Amazing review Jason, thank you so much for supporting the brand! We are so happy you gave em a shot. We have spent years tweaking these trucks to perfect their design and truly hope the skate community realizes we will continue to make these trucks better everytime. Mahalo!
I work at a indoor skatepark here in Sweden and want to add these trucks to one of our boards that we lend out so people can try them. I want the gen 2 8.5 but can't find them in Sweden...
Do you guys think these make more of a difference for street or tranny/pools? I want to get some to try out but don't know which board to put them on. I skate a different width for each setup. P.S. Super cool design! Glad there is still innovation in skating.
Hallo aus Amerika! Ich glaube dass du klingst Deutsch, wenn du Englisch schreibst. Habe ich recht? Ich weiß dass ich die gegenteilige Fehler mache, wenn ich versuche Deutsch zu sprechen. Zb: "ich reite Avenue seit fünf Jahre" soll "i have ridden Avenue trucks for 5 years now" sein. Sorry if I sound rude. I am constantly noticing that I use English grammar in German, and the wrong prepositions often. Saw the opportunity to maybe make a language exchange connection. Es tut mir leid, wenn ich wie mein klinge.
As someone who's ridden these since about 2016, I'm never going back. I cannot confidently say they truly improve my skating in any way because I honestly don't track that; but I can say that to me, the feel is so much better. Carving and pumping for speed on flat is so easy and fun, and it feels so fast and smooth in transition. Honestly the area I found they shined the most was on brick. The college I went to had a lot of brick patios/sidewalks and on a normal board I couldn't even ride it. With these it was like riding on rough pavement with normal trucks. Glad you liked them! I definitely recommend bringing them to a bowl to pump around!
I'd really like to see more slides/grinds that touch the baseplate. How do nose/tail slide? Do they catch? Do they turn into razorblades when the edges file down? Does the movement affect smiths, etc?
The nose of our baseplates are angled to allow for smooth slides and grinds, there are no hard edges when you look closely enough. Helps keep things smooth so you should have no issues!
they catch very much so. spring steel is an extreamly hard metal (high carbon steel) which means if and when you do catch they WILL ruin every curb, ledge, rail and coping they come into contact with.. so unless you want to be hated by the skaters worldwide for ruining the "spot" id suggest you stick to the originals indy...
Those look pretty awesome. I think you should make a video where you try them side-by-side with a regular board. Maybe try the same kicker over sign with both? I hope we get to see some direct comparison!
my only issue is your brand has been out for four years.. every skater you have paid to do a review all have said the exact same things. they love them their friends all skate them blablabla.. i got a pair and i hated them from the drop. please stop trying to sell these to skaters... they suck and you all know it!!@@avenuetrucks1186
I've been skating since 1999. The level of your creativity and style blows my mind. Solid attitude, definitely one of my favorites for sure! You tha man !
I was sold the moment you started carving. As an old guy who likes to ride longboards and flow around parks, the problem i run into is that reverse king pin and dual pivot trucks tend to act really squirrelly going in reverse. These seem to perform just like standard trucks, and only give you the extra tight radius when you want them to. Thanks for the solid review!
seeing how quickly you adapted to these trucks really speaks volume on your skill level. I got those trucks when they kickstarted and rode them for over 4 years on both generations, but ended up back on regular truck as I broke two pairs of hangars (same spot around the bushing loop) and another pair to broken king pins. Got too costly to import them and the durability wasn't as long as normal trucks. I do miss the smoother ride for cruising, just couldn't hold up over time
Thanks for reviewing these, I’ve been curious about them for a while. It’s cool that you can carve and gain speed, like tic-tac without raising the nose.
100% agree that I should’ve covered them in this video! I was just distracted by how they felt and focused on the other points - other comments mention they’re heavier, but I legit didn’t notice and I’ll admit I wasn’t even paying attention to that aspect. As far as grinds, I only did a few off camera but they felt really good - however I didn’t do any slides at all, and I’m not sure if the shape of the baseplate would be an issue for slides. Definitely would love to do a part 2 to this video and cover weight/grinds/slides!
Im NEVER going back to regular skate trucks since I switched to avenue, waaay more speed d/t less vibrations and it seems like they help my pop d/t the spring loaded deal. Definetly worth a try considering their no more expensive than regular trucks
I skated the first Avenue trucks for at least two years. I used them for 100% street skating, and I really enjoyed them. The downside with the gen 1 version of the trucks was that they were a bit heavy. That was the main reason that I gave up skating them, but the gen 2 is supposed to be more light weight. I am pretty light weight myself, so I actually didn't feel the suspension effect that much. If the skater is a bit more heavy weight, the suspension effect will feel a lot more. Great review Jason! 💯
I have the gen 2 trucks. Smoothest ride ive ever built, and the pop is phenomenal. My only complaint is that practicing flip tricks reduces the lifespan a LOT when the board lands primo. Other than that, best trucks ive ever bought
@phakoo23 it causes the kindpin housing to crack from the shock, and sometimes the bushing housing too. Granted, the gen 2's have only broken around the bushing housing, but the gen 1 can break both ways. This is all anecdotal btw, so your experience will vary if you get them. Ive gone through 4 sets in about 5 years of heavy skating
I am older (49) and bigger (180lbs) than most truck users, so just practicing regular ollies for 20 mins is “high impact” on the old knees. Before switching to Avenue in the summer I wasn’t able to practice every day sustainably/consistently. Suspension trucks have made a huge difference! (Young ‘uns may not appreciate how high impact the sport really is - even the little drops.)
Is there a maximum recommended weight limit to skating these trucks, I weigh around 100kg, which is around 220lb or over 15 stone. I skate with soft wheels and a soft riser pad to lessen the impact on my aging joints. This invention seems like it will give me a few more years skateboarding, or reduce injuries (i.e., I can skate harder street wheels again or something).
@@mr.hofbauer Excellent, thanks. Obviously I am losing weight, but not fast enough to get down to my ideal weight. I'm trying to see if I can get them in the UK, so far not.
I'll be on Oahu for a few weeks over the holidays. I'll find my way over to Kaneohe as often as I can on the slim chance I get to see Jason skating in person.
🙌🏽🤗thanks for review this actually makes me want to ride them now I have a pair of gen 2 I got a while ago I have just had so much fun with trying other trucks that I forgot to show them some love. Great review 🤗
I was wondering if they helped bad knees! I've started skating again but i have bone on bone arthritis in my left (back) knee... i can only do 3 ollies before the pain kicks, and i just don't have the pop i used to have
I've had the trucks for years have them on several decks absolutely love how smooth they feel not necessarily the greatest for grinding but other than that everything else is absolutely wonderful about them
Skated a pair of the black ones with green bushings a few setups ago. They worked well! Don’t feel like they grinded any better, but the pop id say was for sure better
Really cool review. One question though. What trucks were you skating before these? I'm going to try out Alex's board with these next time I'm at the warehouse though to see how they feel to me.
Through the years, which different brands have you ridden, @@JasonParkSucks ? For me (grindking, destructo, thunder, indy, theeve, krux, ace, and avenue.
@@shred-sensei when I was younger I tried a lot of em, silver (didn’t like them) independent (they used to be good but switched manufacturers in 2019 and aren’t very good anymore imo), venture (liked them), phantoms (liked them). I started riding for Theeve in around 2010 and absolutely loved them - rode for them for over ten years. Krux made me an offer and I tried to switch, but strongly disliked them (one pair broke on me in two days) so stayed with Theeve. Eventually left Theeve last year and started trying out new tricks - started with Ventures and really liked them. Been riding them ever since! Avenue trucks are the first I’ve tried since Venture, I liked them a lot but it’s a bit early to tell what the future holds!
Been riding these since college back in 2018. Lots of brick and rough sidewalks that just get eaten up by these trucks. Then I moved to NYC where I do A LOT of commuting on my board through the crustiest city roads and sidewalks. Did not want to succumb to getting a longboard, wanted to stick to what I know and be able to do tricks. Pairing these with some Bones Raws and Ricta Clouds essentially turned my ride into the Rolls Royce of boards. BUT I could still do fliptricks and other freestyle whenever I wanted. A perfect balance - I actually ran UberEats and Doordash on this board for 3 months and mannnn did it help, especially with speed on rough ground (I was beating estimated bike delivery times by 5-10 minutes on average, for perspective). Plus skitching taxis down Broadway with more confidence. The long short for me is this: If you live anywhere with rough surfaces/commutes or want to ease the progressive impact that riding has on your body, GO WITH THESE!!! You will have a vastly improved ride without sacrificing your ability to hit the park or street spots. My absolute favorite gear switch in my 21 years of riding. Pair it with some fast bearings and a softer duro wheel, and you'll be on the moon.
Avenue suspension trucks have been around for about 8 years. One of the Revive lot rides them, Alex, I think. In fact there's a background picture of someone on the trucks in the Shredquarters, on the website main page.
I wonder if this Gen 2 trucks are anything recent, and if there are significant differences compared to what youtubers were reviewing few years back...? I would have really liked to know 3 things if I were to buy these: 1.how tall are these trucks? The website doesn't specify it, and they look pretty tall...? 2. How heavy are they compared to the same sized thunder or indy? 3. Does the baseplate design affect doing slide tricks at all?
Yeah these are all important and I wish I had gone over them! They are a bit taller than my current Ventures, remind me about the same height as high truck models for other companies. I didn’t notice them being any heavier than a normal truck but I read comments saying they’re heavier so I might have just not noticed but they didn’t feel heavier to me. And I totally spaced on doing slide tricks! I honestly think, with everything I missed it would be worth it to do a part 2 on these. Thanks for bringing these up!
Just got my 3rd set of dragons (finally in green!) and you're so right on. They go ridiculously faster with those two products, but still pop like crazy and the added grip is sick.
Definitely interested. But I'm really curious about the longivity of these. With that kind of design, there's a lot of torsion on the metal "frame". With repeated turns and compressions, I wonder if the metal with get softer and/or less effective. Comes down to the metallurgy and heat treat I guess.
We have a very specific heat treating process that allows for maximum flexibility and rigidness for our baseplates. Since version 1 (7yrs ago) we've been able to extend the life of our baseplates very significantly. Hope you give em a shot one day!
@@avenuetrucks1186 Thank you for chiming in that's good info. I will definitely give them a shot. Love skating but multiple knee surgeries. This might be the solution I've been looking for.
Id like to see you take a set of those with you to AZ the next time you go visit. Have Jaws put those trucks through a real hell. That would be a good add for their company too, so you all may want to get paid, but that would be fun to see just what they really can endure?
not nearly as tight of turns, but the looser I skate them, they seem to get closer to that surfskate feel. I think there's a limit, and for that reason, I can't wait to get a surf adapter to try with them!
hey I liked that review alot, these new avenues seem better than the first version, but I need to see them grind! how do they grind? also do they throw you off when you land on stuff, grinds or otherwise? would be bad if you had an effect similar to soft wheels on your board when you jump down stuff and the trucks compress and spring load into your feet, making you eat your knees.
I remember in design class in auto-cad on a cnc machine we tried to make a truck with springs instead of clouds or bushing and like it was our senior project and it all fell apart when it came to how dangerous it would be to try to pop but these trucks look pretty friggin cool.
This looks cool, I wonder what the true longevity of it is. Considering it's constantly being compressed, I'm sure that like most metals, eventually, it would lose some of that compression over time. Do you think that they'd outlast a standard truck? At least with those the main repair would be bushings instead of an entirely new set of trucks.
I've ridden them for 6-7years, and have found out how they eventually wear out a few different ways- the baseplate suspension piece has worn out on me twice (meaning that it cracked after 50,000 pops, then the crack grew until it broke... but keep in mind that was after skating them for over a year every day, and skating in water, snow, heat, etc... I have nothing negative to say about them. Search "Cotton Candy" by lunchbreak skateboards to see my video part (evan) filmed mostly on these trucks. Every time they break, I have felt that they served me well for a long time... kind of like a faithful horse or dog. Lots of great memories, and nothing lasts forever. Plus it's fun to get fresh stuff. Everytime I set up a new set of these i'm so elated.
the trucks themselves may not make you yourself ollie higher than ever before but it for sure looked more fun and a new different way to enjoy skating a nice set of trucks for a friend to have on a spare board who doesn't really get to skate as much
these seem interesting, might have to try them next time i get trucks, but currently i have 2 sets and one set are indys that haven't even been rode yet so i think it will be a while before i need new trucks
I managed to break - I think three kingpins in a timespan of about two months way back in 2005 or so. Also the shield knuts used to snap in half easily or loosen and getting lost leaving you with nothing but same old regular trucks. I think I rolled over them a few times too falling on the ground. Ended up really disliking them, but 'ey, cool colours they had. If they're still produced I hope there's happened some big improvement. 🤷
Did they feel spongey at all getting into grinds or manuals? Idk why but, I picture locking into something and the compression causing a brief loss in momentum and getting pitched forward.
I had a pair of these in 2016 when they first launched and they ended up breaking, I'm considering trying again, they're probably made a lot stronger now, at least I'd hope so after 7 years lol
@@avenuetrucks1186 Thanks for clarifying, I had the same fault years ago. And while I did like them, It kinda put doubt in my mind. Slightly heavier but so much turning control, great product NZ skater
They do make a street size small shark wheel that isn't as heavy now. Talking gimmicks- this innovation is the best one. I'm glad it's catching on. Can't wait for them to throw flames with flint someday like the GKing ones! haha. I love the andy board i Had and the dragons wheels rule. If gimmicks make skateboarding more fun, more comfy, and more interesting, bring them on!
The little kid in the back cruising behind you while you're explaining is a vibe. No nostalgia is as strong as remembering going to the skatepark as a little ripper.
Cool. Thx for the assessment. Very interesting. I assume youre obviously gonna switch to them now. I guess theres no cons & only pros then? And l reckon they grind & lock in the same aswell. Thx
So first off a few comments mentioned I should’ve tested the grind/slide and I definitely should have! For some reason I fully spaced on that, I think because it wasn’t one of their main selling points on the website. I genuinely loved riding these - that being said, I’m not sure if I’m going to switch to them now and that might be purely just because I’ve ridden the same type of truck for my entire life and have only ridden these for a day - so for example jumping down something big I wouldn’t feel confident enough since I have no idea how they’d perform for something like that. That being said I think these are perfect for a lot of people depending on their style of skating and what they’re into, and I will at least continue to experiment with these!
@@JasonParkSucks Gotcha. I agree. Im sorta in the same boat as u. Basically just the look of them throws me off alittle & itd def be a hard move to switch to them from standard trucks. Still all in all was a cool & interesting vid & review. I enjoy watching it. Thx again. Keep up the great work man. 👍
About twice a week strangers at skateparks shout at me, "what are THOSE trucks!?" and it's always fun to see their faces when they take them for a spin. I like that they are just super unique, but the performance is way too fun. @@chris73brown
I think the pop is better cause of the height of the truck compared to normal trucks. Cause the pop comes out from the tail, and with higher trucks you can get higher pop..
Not sure, it’s hard to say. I’ll be honest, it’s hard to make a complete switch after riding the same type of trucks for my entire life! I think it would be hard for me to feel as confident when doing things like jumping down big sets of stairs or things like that, just mentally. That being said, I genuinely did enjoy riding these trucks and will continue to mess around with them and see how I feel! I think they would make amazing trucks for a transition skateboard or a filmer board!
They sit standard at 55mm to the center of the axle, however when you're actually riding on the board they compress to 52-53mms depending on your weight due to suspension dynamics
They claim that they mitigate speed wobbles, especially on the longboard truck. I have noticed they perform well at high speeds, since they just naturally increase speed
I had a pair. It does give u more pop and grinds faster. HOWEVER, i think they grind faster because they are magnesium, and my tensor mags also grind fast bc they are made of same metal. If u like tight trucks these r not for you. They feel like ur riding on a drop thru longboard with how bouncy they are but They turn like a venture. i think thryre a good novelty and wouldnt hate on someone else riding them but they’re not for me
Yeah I realized while editing this that I should’ve definitely done a grind/slide test, for some reason I didn’t even think about that since it wasn’t one of their main selling points on the website. Will maybe have to do a part 2!
@@JasonParkSucks I feel ya. Even if they grind like your average trucks that would be cool. However if they feel bad on a grind, then this whole truck goes out the window IMO
I ride my trucks a little on the tight side, would you say these feel loose/med/tight relative to a traditional design? I do think it's funny how skateboarding and guitar players definitely seem to reject technology advancement in the equipment. Maybe it reminds them it's a business and it breaks the counterculture illusion? I would love to set up a maximum gear-kook board with these trucks, a carbon fiber or maybe a Flight deck, and then...maybe Spitfire sapphire wheels? See how that goes over.
Yes I completely agree! They felt definitely looser compared to normal trucks, but also I didn’t tighten them at all because it didn’t feel too loose to me and the looseness made the carving more fun. For more street skating I would probably tighten them up for sure!
@@JasonParkSucks did they feel smooth on that concrete? It was my (extremely limited) experience trying to skate Wallows this summer when we were visiting that the ground there is hella rugged lol. It certainly looked pretty gnarly in the background, but it may have just been local materials looking a bit darker than Florida concrete too.
These trucks with risers and a large size dragon wheel would be a world of difference at a rough spot like that. Last summer I got to perform at a festival where the skate ramps were set up on super rough rugged pavement and the dragons+suspension was noticeably different in that I worked half as hard for my speed and it felt normal, where my old wheels/trucks felt all the vibrations.@@veritechz
@@shred-sensei That's good feedback for sure. I went from 54mm formula 4s down to the 52mm Nano Cubics recently, and while the ride is decidedly smoother in a way that's hard to articulate, the diameter change was pretty detrimental to transporting myself on actual roads in the neighborhood on my popsicle (pebbles and rough spots are a lot more significant now). I like that Powell is increasing the diameter on the nano cubics; I recently swapped my 64mm Powell Bombers down to 58mm Formula 4s on my Hosoi Hammerhead to take a bit of weight out of it, but I think I prefer the ride on that dragon formula, and may move to a set of those at some point. I'm really interested in how these trucks feel, I wish there was a way to try them out before plunking down for them.
oh this is awesome! Amazing review Jason, thank you so much for supporting the brand! We are so happy you gave em a shot. We have spent years tweaking these trucks to perfect their design and truly hope the skate community realizes we will continue to make these trucks better everytime. Mahalo!
I work at a indoor skatepark here in Sweden and want to add these trucks to one of our boards that we lend out so people can try them. I want the gen 2 8.5 but can't find them in Sweden...
I know that shops in Germany such as @blackriver_official has them...best regards
i've nearly ordered several times. Once you were out of generation 2 so i waited. Looks really sweet.
Do you guys think these make more of a difference for street or tranny/pools? I want to get some to try out but don't know which board to put them on. I skate a different width for each setup.
P.S. Super cool design! Glad there is still innovation in skating.
Just wondering do I need to add shock pads for these trucks?
I ride the avenue since 5 years now, never I will go back to the old system ! This Trucks change Skateboarding in a good way 💎🙌
Hallo aus Amerika! Ich glaube dass du klingst Deutsch, wenn du Englisch schreibst. Habe ich recht?
Ich weiß dass ich die gegenteilige Fehler mache, wenn ich versuche Deutsch zu sprechen.
Zb: "ich reite Avenue seit fünf Jahre" soll "i have ridden Avenue trucks for 5 years now" sein.
Sorry if I sound rude. I am constantly noticing that I use English grammar in German, and the wrong prepositions often. Saw the opportunity to maybe make a language exchange connection. Es tut mir leid, wenn ich wie mein klinge.
awesome to hear!!!!
thats epic i wannan use them so bad i remember when they came out and lance silber that used to be at braille rode them
As someone who's ridden these since about 2016, I'm never going back. I cannot confidently say they truly improve my skating in any way because I honestly don't track that; but I can say that to me, the feel is so much better. Carving and pumping for speed on flat is so easy and fun, and it feels so fast and smooth in transition. Honestly the area I found they shined the most was on brick. The college I went to had a lot of brick patios/sidewalks and on a normal board I couldn't even ride it. With these it was like riding on rough pavement with normal trucks.
Glad you liked them! I definitely recommend bringing them to a bowl to pump around!
Awesome!!
I'd really like to see more slides/grinds that touch the baseplate. How do nose/tail slide? Do they catch? Do they turn into razorblades when the edges file down?
Does the movement affect smiths, etc?
The nose of our baseplates are angled to allow for smooth slides and grinds, there are no hard edges when you look closely enough. Helps keep things smooth so you should have no issues!
i love innovation and what you have done here is fantastic ;) @@avenuetrucks1186
they catch very much so. spring steel is an extreamly hard metal (high carbon steel) which means if and when you do catch they WILL ruin every curb, ledge, rail and coping they come into contact with.. so unless you want to be hated by the skaters worldwide for ruining the "spot" id suggest you stick to the originals indy...
@@bumrodgers ben degros did a video on these trucks take a look
Those look pretty awesome. I think you should make a video where you try them side-by-side with a regular board. Maybe try the same kicker over sign with both? I hope we get to see some direct comparison!
That’s a great idea honestly! Will have to do a part 2 sometime with all of the ideas in the comments from you guys, thank you
this would be a great comparison tbh
my only issue is your brand has been out for four years.. every skater you have paid to do a review all have said the exact same things. they love them their friends all skate them blablabla.. i got a pair and i hated them from the drop. please stop trying to sell these to skaters... they suck and you all know it!!@@avenuetrucks1186
I've been skating since 1999. The level of your creativity and style blows my mind. Solid attitude, definitely one of my favorites for sure! You tha man !
Dang thank you! Means a lot
I was sold the moment you started carving. As an old guy who likes to ride longboards and flow around parks, the problem i run into is that reverse king pin and dual pivot trucks tend to act really squirrelly going in reverse.
These seem to perform just like standard trucks, and only give you the extra tight radius when you want them to.
Thanks for the solid review!
Been skating them for many many years and fu... love them 😍🔥
seeing how quickly you adapted to these trucks really speaks volume on your skill level.
I got those trucks when they kickstarted and rode them for over 4 years on both generations, but ended up back on regular truck as I broke two pairs of hangars (same spot around the bushing loop) and another pair to broken king pins. Got too costly to import them and the durability wasn't as long as normal trucks.
I do miss the smoother ride for cruising, just couldn't hold up over time
That full cab flip was a thing of beauty
Thanks for reviewing these, I’ve been curious about them for a while. It’s cool that you can carve and gain speed, like tic-tac without raising the nose.
Best feeling trucks ever
Nice we hope you get a chance to check em out one day!
the pumping and the blunt you did was enough for me to try one, and icing also was the flip tricks thanks
Jason, you left out a couple important considerations when it comes to choosing trucks: how heavy are they, and how does the grind feel?
100% agree that I should’ve covered them in this video! I was just distracted by how they felt and focused on the other points - other comments mention they’re heavier, but I legit didn’t notice and I’ll admit I wasn’t even paying attention to that aspect. As far as grinds, I only did a few off camera but they felt really good - however I didn’t do any slides at all, and I’m not sure if the shape of the baseplate would be an issue for slides. Definitely would love to do a part 2 to this video and cover weight/grinds/slides!
@@JasonParkSucks thanks for the reply! Your first video was great anyway of course and I’d love to see a sequel!
Hell yeah, let’s see some grinds and slides. I’m interested to see how they do.
Im NEVER going back to regular skate trucks since I switched to avenue, waaay more speed d/t less vibrations and it seems like they help my pop d/t the spring loaded deal. Definetly worth a try considering their no more expensive than regular trucks
AWESOME! Enjoy the ride!
I just got some from a dude at work and I'm in love like holy smokes
I skated the first Avenue trucks for at least two years. I used them for 100% street skating, and I really enjoyed them. The downside with the gen 1 version of the trucks was that they were a bit heavy. That was the main reason that I gave up skating them, but the gen 2 is supposed to be more light weight. I am pretty light weight myself, so I actually didn't feel the suspension effect that much. If the skater is a bit more heavy weight, the suspension effect will feel a lot more. Great review Jason! 💯
I’m glad you made a video on these. Looks cool and worth a try 👍
I have the gen 2 trucks. Smoothest ride ive ever built, and the pop is phenomenal. My only complaint is that practicing flip tricks reduces the lifespan a LOT when the board lands primo. Other than that, best trucks ive ever bought
does it bend them, or something, from the primos? Thanks for the feedback
@phakoo23 it causes the kindpin housing to crack from the shock, and sometimes the bushing housing too. Granted, the gen 2's have only broken around the bushing housing, but the gen 1 can break both ways. This is all anecdotal btw, so your experience will vary if you get them. Ive gone through 4 sets in about 5 years of heavy skating
I am older (49) and bigger (180lbs) than most truck users, so just practicing regular ollies for 20 mins is “high impact” on the old knees. Before switching to Avenue in the summer I wasn’t able to practice every day sustainably/consistently. Suspension trucks have made a huge difference! (Young ‘uns may not appreciate how high impact the sport really is - even the little drops.)
Amazing to hear! Enjoy the ride!
180 isn’t bigger than most at all. That’s about normal
very interesting and cool i enjoy seeing different ideas and new innovations in skateboarding, thanks for sharing Jason
Is there a maximum recommended weight limit to skating these trucks, I weigh around 100kg, which is around 220lb or over 15 stone. I skate with soft wheels and a soft riser pad to lessen the impact on my aging joints. This invention seems like it will give me a few more years skateboarding, or reduce injuries (i.e., I can skate harder street wheels again or something).
They sound perfect for you. I know some older guys (around 50) with joint problems and they say Avenue trucks really help them...
@@mr.hofbauer Excellent, thanks. Obviously I am losing weight, but not fast enough to get down to my ideal weight. I'm trying to see if I can get them in the UK, so far not.
that cab flip thoughhhh, wow !
Please do more reviews like this 😍
I'll be on Oahu for a few weeks over the holidays. I'll find my way over to Kaneohe as often as I can on the slim chance I get to see Jason skating in person.
My favorite skatepark in the world, I go there around once a week at least! Hope you have a great trip down here and hope to run into you!
Those seem like worth trying. Especially for really crusty ground.😊👍
They work especially great on crusty ground
The speed of them is what blew me away
🙌🏽🤗thanks for review this actually makes me want to ride them now
I have a pair of gen 2 I got a while ago
I have just had so much fun with trying other trucks that I forgot to show them some love. Great review 🤗
As I got older I switched to Avenue trucks and they helped my knees a lot with heavy impact from landing.
I was wondering if they helped bad knees! I've started skating again but i have bone on bone arthritis in my left (back) knee... i can only do 3 ollies before the pain kicks, and i just don't have the pop i used to have
I've had the trucks for years have them on several decks absolutely love how smooth they feel not necessarily the greatest for grinding but other than that everything else is absolutely wonderful about them
Skated a pair of the black ones with green bushings a few setups ago. They worked well! Don’t feel like they grinded any better, but the pop id say was for sure better
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Great breakdown
I enjoyed watching you have so much fun.
Hello, what do you think about those trucks and bowlriding?
Ty.
These trucks seem super awesome. Thinking about putting the longboard ones under one of my longboards. They are even moderately priced.
Hella tempting, if I had some good places to ride, I bet they're worth it
@@phakoo23 🙌
Thanks Rotesosse! Our Longboard trucks are a lot of fun if you decide to give it a try one day. Cheers!
, I've had Avenue trucks on all my setups for years absolutely love them wish the Magnesium would come in wider sizes
I absolutely love these trucks change out bushings to hardcore bones
thanks for the review, i feel like they'd feel relatively sticky for grinds, especially on the lock in, but i'd have to try ;)
They're awesome for grinds. Only skating them for many many years
Really cool review. One question though. What trucks were you skating before these? I'm going to try out Alex's board with these next time I'm at the warehouse though to see how they feel to me.
I’ve been skating Ventures lately, and thank you! 🥔
Through the years, which different brands have you ridden, @@JasonParkSucks ? For me (grindking, destructo, thunder, indy, theeve, krux, ace, and avenue.
@@shred-sensei when I was younger I tried a lot of em, silver (didn’t like them) independent (they used to be good but switched manufacturers in 2019 and aren’t very good anymore imo), venture (liked them), phantoms (liked them). I started riding for Theeve in around 2010 and absolutely loved them - rode for them for over ten years. Krux made me an offer and I tried to switch, but strongly disliked them (one pair broke on me in two days) so stayed with Theeve. Eventually left Theeve last year and started trying out new tricks - started with Ventures and really liked them. Been riding them ever since! Avenue trucks are the first I’ve tried since Venture, I liked them a lot but it’s a bit early to tell what the future holds!
The bones x97 wheels bounce like that, I’ve really been digging them
Been riding these since college back in 2018. Lots of brick and rough sidewalks that just get eaten up by these trucks. Then I moved to NYC where I do A LOT of commuting on my board through the crustiest city roads and sidewalks. Did not want to succumb to getting a longboard, wanted to stick to what I know and be able to do tricks. Pairing these with some Bones Raws and Ricta Clouds essentially turned my ride into the Rolls Royce of boards. BUT I could still do fliptricks and other freestyle whenever I wanted. A perfect balance - I actually ran UberEats and Doordash on this board for 3 months and mannnn did it help, especially with speed on rough ground (I was beating estimated bike delivery times by 5-10 minutes on average, for perspective). Plus skitching taxis down Broadway with more confidence.
The long short for me is this: If you live anywhere with rough surfaces/commutes or want to ease the progressive impact that riding has on your body, GO WITH THESE!!! You will have a vastly improved ride without sacrificing your ability to hit the park or street spots. My absolute favorite gear switch in my 21 years of riding. Pair it with some fast bearings and a softer duro wheel, and you'll be on the moon.
Glad to see you out of that neck brace dude… I was scared for you… great to see your back to your normal ripping self. 👍
Hi Jason - Can you tighten or loosen these like a regular truck? Are you still skating them?
How do these hold up for transition riding?
Love the slo-mo shots. You do look like you're popping higher with those trucks.
Avenue suspension trucks have been around for about 8 years. One of the Revive lot rides them, Alex, I think. In fact there's a background picture of someone on the trucks in the Shredquarters, on the website main page.
Do they have a drop-thru version? I'd be very interested
I wonder how long that gap will stay there between the wheels and the base? Will it eventually bend and touch the base?
I want to buy these to put on a waterborne fin system surf adapter, I bet it would be such a great ride
I wonder if this Gen 2 trucks are anything recent, and if there are significant differences compared to what youtubers were reviewing few years back...?
I would have really liked to know 3 things if I were to buy these:
1.how tall are these trucks? The website doesn't specify it, and they look pretty tall...?
2. How heavy are they compared to the same sized thunder or indy?
3. Does the baseplate design affect doing slide tricks at all?
Yeah these are all important and I wish I had gone over them! They are a bit taller than my current Ventures, remind me about the same height as high truck models for other companies. I didn’t notice them being any heavier than a normal truck but I read comments saying they’re heavier so I might have just not noticed but they didn’t feel heavier to me. And I totally spaced on doing slide tricks! I honestly think, with everything I missed it would be worth it to do a part 2 on these. Thanks for bringing these up!
I wonder how grinds feel on those if it would make things like feebles harder but I bet it would make popping out of grinds easier
How do they grind? Like smiths or feeble for example? Maybe even crooks.
I’ve used these for a long time. They work great!
You need to slide n grind and see how the baseplates feels when sliding
they feel fine. If anything its minimal surface area to get stuck on. I like how thin it is to reduce weight.
no nose slide tail slide crooked grind??
I wish you had bombed a hill to test the claim that they prevent speed wobbles. Great review all the same. Thanks for putting this out there.
This makes me want to try those on a vert ramp
Love these trucks absolutely smooth and comfortable to ride on, Les fatigue.
These with powell dragon wheels must feel like heaven
Just got my 3rd set of dragons (finally in green!) and you're so right on. They go ridiculously faster with those two products, but still pop like crazy and the added grip is sick.
Definitely interested. But I'm really curious about the longivity of these. With that kind of design, there's a lot of torsion on the metal "frame". With repeated turns and compressions, I wonder if the metal with get softer and/or less effective. Comes down to the metallurgy and heat treat I guess.
We have a very specific heat treating process that allows for maximum flexibility and rigidness for our baseplates. Since version 1 (7yrs ago) we've been able to extend the life of our baseplates very significantly. Hope you give em a shot one day!
@@avenuetrucks1186 Thank you for chiming in that's good info. I will definitely give them a shot. Love skating but multiple knee surgeries. This might be the solution I've been looking for.
Id like to see you take a set of those with you to AZ the next time you go visit. Have Jaws put those trucks through a real hell. That would be a good add for their company too, so you all may want to get paid, but that would be fun to see just what they really can endure?
Breaking the law! LOL That was a sweet idea.
With the carving it looks like it handles halfway between a normal skateboard and a surfskate
not nearly as tight of turns, but the looser I skate them, they seem to get closer to that surfskate feel. I think there's a limit, and for that reason, I can't wait to get a surf adapter to try with them!
How do they grind tho?
hey I liked that review alot, these new avenues seem better than the first version, but I need to see them grind! how do they grind?
also do they throw you off when you land on stuff, grinds or otherwise?
would be bad if you had an effect similar to soft wheels on your board when you jump down stuff and the trucks compress and spring load into your feet, making you eat your knees.
pretty good review
Bro I was the kid in the back😂
I remember in design class in auto-cad on a cnc machine we tried to make a truck with springs instead of clouds or bushing and like it was our senior project and it all fell apart when it came to how dangerous it would be to try to pop but these trucks look pretty friggin cool.
Yeah the coiled spring route is not the way to go, we tried many variations as well and found this was the ONLY way to make it work
Did i miss the grind test?
This looks cool, I wonder what the true longevity of it is. Considering it's constantly being compressed, I'm sure that like most metals, eventually, it would lose some of that compression over time. Do you think that they'd outlast a standard truck? At least with those the main repair would be bushings instead of an entirely new set of trucks.
Like normal trucks in my opinion. For the last 6 years I've been only skating Avenues. Broke more Thunders than Avenue so far... 😅
thanks for the input!!@@mr.hofbauer
I've ridden them for 6-7years, and have found out how they eventually wear out a few different ways- the baseplate suspension piece has worn out on me twice (meaning that it cracked after 50,000 pops, then the crack grew until it broke... but keep in mind that was after skating them for over a year every day, and skating in water, snow, heat, etc... I have nothing negative to say about them. Search "Cotton Candy" by lunchbreak skateboards to see my video part (evan) filmed mostly on these trucks. Every time they break, I have felt that they served me well for a long time... kind of like a faithful horse or dog. Lots of great memories, and nothing lasts forever. Plus it's fun to get fresh stuff. Everytime I set up a new set of these i'm so elated.
appreciate the in depth feedback! I think I'm going to give these a shot.@@shred-sensei
the trucks themselves may not make you yourself ollie higher than ever before but it for sure looked more fun and a new different way to enjoy skating a nice set of trucks for a friend to have on a spare board who doesn't really get to skate as much
I'd want to see how grinds are with them like: ledges, rails, slappies etc
these seem interesting, might have to try them next time i get trucks, but currently i have 2 sets and one set are indys that haven't even been rode yet so i think it will be a while before i need new trucks
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what about silver trucks, who had bearing shielding knuts? they were pretty awesome/innovative
I managed to break - I think three kingpins in a timespan of about two months way back in 2005 or so. Also the shield knuts used to snap in half easily or loosen and getting lost leaving you with nothing but same old regular trucks. I think I rolled over them a few times too falling on the ground. Ended up really disliking them, but 'ey, cool colours they had. If they're still produced I hope there's happened some big improvement. 🤷
@@Suovala thats crazy. i had zero issues with mine. i lost my entire skateboard before i lost any of the knuts :(
Every time I see avenue trucks I think of Lance the skate God from braille
Did they feel spongey at all getting into grinds or manuals? Idk why but, I picture locking into something and the compression causing a brief loss in momentum and getting pitched forward.
I have learned all my tricks after skating 20 years on traditional trucks. Grinds feel so good. More grind distance with less speed, wax & effort
I had a pair of these in 2016 when they first launched and they ended up breaking, I'm considering trying again, they're probably made a lot stronger now, at least I'd hope so after 7 years lol
they broke at the part where your bushing sit btw, probably was a weak part
We have since fixed this issue with adding a little more support around the bushing seat during casting!
@@avenuetrucks1186
Thanks for clarifying,
I had the same fault years ago.
And while I did like them,
It kinda put doubt in my mind.
Slightly heavier but so much turning control, great product
NZ skater
Excellent!!!
great video jason
Well the Skate God himself liked these trucks, so of course they're good
I want a full gimmick board.
These trucks, andy shape flight deck, nonabrasive grip, rails, idk maybe those snakestyle wheels they have on longboards
rails should not be considered a gimmick... they're legit
Doing the same except with the mbs all terrain wheels for mountain board
They do make a street size small shark wheel that isn't as heavy now. Talking gimmicks- this innovation is the best one. I'm glad it's catching on. Can't wait for them to throw flames with flint someday like the GKing ones! haha. I love the andy board i Had and the dragons wheels rule. If gimmicks make skateboarding more fun, more comfy, and more interesting, bring them on!
If you put these trucks on the new Andy Anderson deck does it unlock unlimited special bar? YOWZA!
with dragon wheels and these trucks, on a flight deck, you magically get transported to skate heaven (who remembers that secret THPS level??)
Are you still riding them, Jason?
How was the grind?
The little kid in the back cruising behind you while you're explaining is a vibe. No nostalgia is as strong as remembering going to the skatepark as a little ripper.
makes me happy that with even all the technology available they still choose to shred
Cool. Thx for the assessment. Very interesting. I assume youre obviously gonna switch to them now. I guess theres no cons & only pros then? And l reckon they grind & lock in the same aswell. Thx
So first off a few comments mentioned I should’ve tested the grind/slide and I definitely should have! For some reason I fully spaced on that, I think because it wasn’t one of their main selling points on the website. I genuinely loved riding these - that being said, I’m not sure if I’m going to switch to them now and that might be purely just because I’ve ridden the same type of truck for my entire life and have only ridden these for a day - so for example jumping down something big I wouldn’t feel confident enough since I have no idea how they’d perform for something like that. That being said I think these are perfect for a lot of people depending on their style of skating and what they’re into, and I will at least continue to experiment with these!
@@JasonParkSucks Gotcha. I agree. Im sorta in the same boat as u. Basically just the look of them throws me off alittle & itd def be a hard move to switch to them from standard trucks. Still all in all was a cool & interesting vid & review. I enjoy watching it. Thx again. Keep up the great work man. 👍
About twice a week strangers at skateparks shout at me, "what are THOSE trucks!?" and it's always fun to see their faces when they take them for a spin. I like that they are just super unique, but the performance is way too fun. @@chris73brown
I think the pop is better cause of the height of the truck compared to normal trucks. Cause the pop comes out from the tail, and with higher trucks you can get higher pop..
So you'll be riding these form now on then?
Not sure, it’s hard to say. I’ll be honest, it’s hard to make a complete switch after riding the same type of trucks for my entire life! I think it would be hard for me to feel as confident when doing things like jumping down big sets of stairs or things like that, just mentally. That being said, I genuinely did enjoy riding these trucks and will continue to mess around with them and see how I feel! I think they would make amazing trucks for a transition skateboard or a filmer board!
This is the most honest review I have seen of anything in a long time. Well done!
I'll try a pair of these the next time I need a replacement.
i wanna those trucks but won't i get wheel bite with big wheels...maybe i should just set up a trick board.
How does stability feel? I feel raising the height would decrease stability.
They sit standard at 55mm to the center of the axle, however when you're actually riding on the board they compress to 52-53mms depending on your weight due to suspension dynamics
They claim that they mitigate speed wobbles, especially on the longboard truck. I have noticed they perform well at high speeds, since they just naturally increase speed
@@avenuetrucks1186I'm on the heavier side I find it easier to do things when it's lower.
I had a pair. It does give u more pop and grinds faster. HOWEVER, i think they grind faster because they are magnesium, and my tensor mags also grind fast bc they are made of same metal. If u like tight trucks these r not for you. They feel like ur riding on a drop thru longboard with how bouncy they are but They turn like a venture. i think thryre a good novelty and wouldnt hate on someone else riding them but they’re not for me
Why didn’t you do any grinds tho? :/
Yeah I realized while editing this that I should’ve definitely done a grind/slide test, for some reason I didn’t even think about that since it wasn’t one of their main selling points on the website. Will maybe have to do a part 2!
@@JasonParkSucks I feel ya. Even if they grind like your average trucks that would be cool. However if they feel bad on a grind, then this whole truck goes out the window IMO
They grind farther because they shock absorb any imperfections in the obstacle. Cray how far you go on a fresh set with no wax.@@BinarySk8
How to test speed wobble in a skatepark?
Awesome
Awesome but you didn’t test grinding on them.
I ride my trucks a little on the tight side, would you say these feel loose/med/tight relative to a traditional design? I do think it's funny how skateboarding and guitar players definitely seem to reject technology advancement in the equipment. Maybe it reminds them it's a business and it breaks the counterculture illusion? I would love to set up a maximum gear-kook board with these trucks, a carbon fiber or maybe a Flight deck, and then...maybe Spitfire sapphire wheels? See how that goes over.
Yes I completely agree! They felt definitely looser compared to normal trucks, but also I didn’t tighten them at all because it didn’t feel too loose to me and the looseness made the carving more fun. For more street skating I would probably tighten them up for sure!
@@JasonParkSucks did they feel smooth on that concrete? It was my (extremely limited) experience trying to skate Wallows this summer when we were visiting that the ground there is hella rugged lol. It certainly looked pretty gnarly in the background, but it may have just been local materials looking a bit darker than Florida concrete too.
These trucks with risers and a large size dragon wheel would be a world of difference at a rough spot like that. Last summer I got to perform at a festival where the skate ramps were set up on super rough rugged pavement and the dragons+suspension was noticeably different in that I worked half as hard for my speed and it felt normal, where my old wheels/trucks felt all the vibrations.@@veritechz
@@shred-sensei That's good feedback for sure. I went from 54mm formula 4s down to the 52mm Nano Cubics recently, and while the ride is decidedly smoother in a way that's hard to articulate, the diameter change was pretty detrimental to transporting myself on actual roads in the neighborhood on my popsicle (pebbles and rough spots are a lot more significant now). I like that Powell is increasing the diameter on the nano cubics; I recently swapped my 64mm Powell Bombers down to 58mm Formula 4s on my Hosoi Hammerhead to take a bit of weight out of it, but I think I prefer the ride on that dragon formula, and may move to a set of those at some point. I'm really interested in how these trucks feel, I wish there was a way to try them out before plunking down for them.
@@veritechz if you invest in them and don’t love them you could always sell them but they feel so rad
I'm guessing these wouldn't be recommended for higher 15-18mph speeds?
Jason biting the Braille content!
They need to come out with the truck where it's like Tony hawks pro skater and you just press x and start rolling automatically lol.
Wheres the grinds
I have a set from their Kickstarter and never skated them. If they make a 9" truck, then I may buy another.
But how do they grind? 0_o