Great points! I would for sure use the older model, change the cab a bit to be more like new, and build up the tipper for solid surfaces. Also use power functions. If new model come to plan, I would use Buwizz I have, and maybe pair another el.motor for the drive.
Is it me or dose the old sets cab have better proportions than the new one is terms of more accurately depicting the cab of the real vehicle that the new set is based off
Thanks for the comparison, it was extremely interesting. Even less sure about getting the new set now though... I think with the calibration errors still causing wiggles, the next step should be a merengue dance competition!
What about some rough terrain test for 42030 b-model? 4x4 vs 6x6 on the large-size (4-6cm diameter) gravel land when one or more wheels could loose it's contact with surface.
In the third speed, my hauler’s gearbox for some reason makes like a rattling sound. No such sound in 1st or 2nd speed. Is this normal? Are you experiencing this too?
4:20. Judging by the white cable, are you using the large angular motor from the Mindstorms set? If so, it is interesting how the Control+ app works just fine, and PoweredUp app actually can differentiate these motors (i.e. the Technic one does not work, or does it?)
The Technic one does not work yet with the Powered Up app. The motors have different IDs, I guess Control+ simply ignores it since the functionality is the same. I don't know why it was not enabled the same way in the Powered Up app, but I was told that the support will be in the next release.
RacingBrick i got the set and i have too say thx too your videos , i am happy with it and the control+ app is way more ok than i think befor , i made a small change too the steering and now it is more stabl and it works for me
Hey RacingBrick, I have a question, can you answer it? I want to make an ultimate rc off-road crawler-pickup and I wanted it to have loads of power, lockable differentials, an automatic gearbox (I found one on Sariel's channel which needs the old dark differencial that I don't have), portal axles and big wheels. I will be using Brickcontroller 2 to control it. Would you suggest I get this set and another XL motor for more power?
Hey man I am doing the exact same thing rn 🤣 like fr I've just started. I'm planning on using BrickController and a BuWizz unit because I want to basically make a really fast off-road buggy CrossKart. And it to be powered using 2 XL Motors. The PF motors are better in my opinion and cost WAY less. I feel we can collaborate on this 👀
0:50 Left is right and right is left? ;D I realy like the second control screen. Does the PU App now work with the angular motor? Plans to modify if the motors are controllable in the PU App: Move the liftarm, so it does not block the gear selector anymore, and create my own custom control. Add a second XL Motor, if there is enough space. Maybe I will simply close the larger gaps in the dump-bed with some yellow tape :D And maybe there is a way to make the articulated-steering-connection more solid. But I think efferman will create an extremly modified version with suspension anyway. In comparision to the 42030 B Model the 42114 is basically better in every way except power/kilogram. 42030 has a great A model we should stick by that :D
After calibration my app goes straight to the tutorial and stops halfway through and I can't access any of the controls panels Any suggestions? Tried reloading app but it' still does the same thing on my android phone and tablet. Great review
Great video! And I still think that PF are better than Control+. It's obvious Lego made this new system to be more entertaining for kids, but c'mon, they already spend most of their time in phones. And not all parents can spend $200+ for a toy and $400+ for a proper phone for this set. This flagman sets are more for adults than kids.
@@McKrushi I have a $200 robot, that I both 3-4 years ago, and I can run him with my phone and program him similar to PU. And it makes sounds and have a Wi-Fi connection. Believe me, the first excitement is over after a couple of weeks.
@@adrianprepelita8683 Depends on the personal interessts I think. As I said: I like it. I'm not telling you, that you have to like it, it's just as always: different interessts -> different preferences. For some people PF fits better for others PU :)
The wheels of the b model are not realistic. They resemble wheels of a car, not a piece of heavy equipment. The A60h has beautiful wheels that should be used on the b model.
@@RacingBrick yes I know, I meant that you could do a video with it's result so everyone that doesn't know that it can be built knows it, I'm not thinking of building it
RacingBrick thank you very much! And it was interesting to see that the overall torque is weaker in the newer hauler. Are all the powered up motors simply weaker than the power functions ones?
No, they are not weaker at all. Remember 42114 is much heavier than the 42030 B model and both of them are powered by an XL motor, plus 42114 looses some power with the complex gearbox system as well.
hey Racingbrick, good video as always, btw, do you know any good 42097 mocs? i havent seen any interesting ones , the one with the conveyor belt or sth I don't see it useful
i still love the new one, control + to me is better then pf mechanically, while as the pf has my nostalgia control + has proportional controls, and for a rc car fanatic like me that is the tipping point, toy grade rc cars have their place. but they are quite annoying and useless to me ( technically pf and control + are hobby grade). but a hobby grade to me should be easy to upgrade/fix ( official definition) but it should also have proportional controls in my eyes. also i love 6x6's and haulers/mining trucks.
@@RacingBrick I thought exactly the opposite, you can use it litterally like a steering wheel, plus you have the button for returning to center. It´s also nice for speed control. If you don´t like it for steering you can use a normal PF remote to steer together with the train remote for speed.
@@philp8872 I suggest to test the theory, because I did. If you try to steer or control the speed with the train remote you will realize that the response is terribly slow and it will not necessarily pick up all the dial turns, and for steering the return to center with the button is very inconvenient. It might work (with compromises) for a slow crawler but it is useless for anything faster than that. Despite the lack of proportional control the simple PF remote is much better if you have only PF IR.
Great points! I would for sure use the older model, change the cab a bit to be more like new, and build up the tipper for solid surfaces. Also use power functions.
If new model come to plan, I would use Buwizz I have, and maybe pair another el.motor for the drive.
Is it me or dose the old sets cab have better proportions than the new one is terms of more accurately depicting the cab of the real vehicle that the new set is based off
2014 vs. 2020
You also have to consider that Lego have made many diffrent parts since the 42030 B model. Great video!
Thanks for the comparison, it was extremely interesting. Even less sure about getting the new set now though...
I think with the calibration errors still causing wiggles, the next step should be a merengue dance competition!
Lol, need to get another one for the dance fight :D
This looks to be interesting, the money you put into these videos must be a lot (specifically the sets LEGO don’t give you)
What about some rough terrain test for 42030 b-model? 4x4 vs 6x6 on the large-size (4-6cm diameter) gravel land when one or more wheels could loose it's contact with surface.
Due to the open differentials the results would be quite similar
I am going to combine them together. As result we should get the best model.
Thanks for great review. Any solution to give it more power.
In the third speed, my hauler’s gearbox for some reason makes like a rattling sound. No such sound in 1st or 2nd speed. Is this normal? Are you experiencing this too?
Yep, it's noisy in 3rd
@@RacingBrick Ok thank you very much for letting me know! I still really appreciate the set cuz of its fully motorized speed transmission gearbox!
Hola! me recomiendas comprar el set 42114? porque lei comentarios malos con respecto a la calibración.
4:20. Judging by the white cable, are you using the large angular motor from the Mindstorms set? If so, it is interesting how the Control+ app works just fine, and PoweredUp app actually can differentiate these motors (i.e. the Technic one does not work, or does it?)
The Technic one does not work yet with the Powered Up app. The motors have different IDs, I guess Control+ simply ignores it since the functionality is the same. I don't know why it was not enabled the same way in the Powered Up app, but I was told that the support will be in the next release.
For some reason when I drive it it makes the sound of my nans back when she falls down the stairs
The problem was the speed was really slow.
I would take the new one and kick out the control + and build up with powerfunctions but first i wait some time for price sales 😛
You'd need to change a lot of things in the gearbox, this mechanism would only work with a stepper for PF
RacingBrick i got the set and i have too say thx too your videos , i am happy with it and the control+ app is way more ok than i think befor , i made a small change too the steering and now it is more stabl and it works for me
Looks like you should get both and put 6 wheels and the bed on the old B model
Ok there's already a MOC for it
The older one wasn't also a wheel loader I have one and I'd build the wheel loader un stead of the dumptruck cause I have the new one
Really great video
why do you have the spike l motor in the hauler??
That one works with the Powered Up app, the Technic variant still does not
ok thx
Love tour TH-cam channel
Hey RacingBrick, I have a question, can you answer it? I want to make an ultimate rc off-road crawler-pickup and I wanted it to have loads of power, lockable differentials, an automatic gearbox (I found one on Sariel's channel which needs the old dark differencial that I don't have), portal axles and big wheels. I will be using Brickcontroller 2 to control it. Would you suggest I get this set and another XL motor for more power?
Hey man I am doing the exact same thing rn 🤣 like fr I've just started. I'm planning on using BrickController and a BuWizz unit because I want to basically make a really fast off-road buggy CrossKart. And it to be powered using 2 XL Motors. The PF motors are better in my opinion and cost WAY less. I feel we can collaborate on this 👀
@@amirpenkar947 it depends where you live😁
I would definitely use 42099 for such purpose
@@RacingBrick Okay, so where do I get the lockable differentials and the portal axles? And the gearbox pieces?
@@zuanverreynne8301 bricklink is your best friend for all extra parts
0:50 Left is right and right is left? ;D I realy like the second control screen.
Does the PU App now work with the angular motor?
Plans to modify if the motors are controllable in the PU App:
Move the liftarm, so it does not block the gear selector anymore, and create my own custom control. Add a second XL Motor, if there is enough space. Maybe I will simply close the larger gaps in the dump-bed with some yellow tape :D And maybe there is a way to make the articulated-steering-connection more solid. But I think efferman will create an extremly modified version with suspension anyway.
In comparision to the 42030 B Model the 42114 is basically better in every way except power/kilogram. 42030 has a great A model we should stick by that :D
No support yet in the PU app unfortunately for the Angular motor.
After calibration my app goes straight to the tutorial and stops halfway through and I can't access any of the controls panels Any suggestions? Tried reloading app but it' still does the same thing on my android phone and tablet. Great review
Same here. Did you find the solution? Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
Try another device
@@RacingBrick Thank you , will try and let you know👍🏻
good video Racingbrick! as always
Maybe the steering bugs because you still have the spikeprime motor installed in the model.
Nope, they have the same behavior
Great video!
And I still think that PF are better than Control+. It's obvious Lego made this new system to be more entertaining for kids, but c'mon, they already spend most of their time in phones. And not all parents can spend $200+ for a toy and $400+ for a proper phone for this set. This flagman sets are more for adults than kids.
The possibilities in PU are just awesome, therefore -> I still think that PU are better than PF ;)
@@McKrushi What possibilities concrete?
@@adrianprepelita8683 Programming in PU.
@@McKrushi I have a $200 robot, that I both 3-4 years ago, and I can run him with my phone and program him similar to PU. And it makes sounds and have a Wi-Fi connection. Believe me, the first excitement is over after a couple of weeks.
@@adrianprepelita8683 Depends on the personal interessts I think. As I said: I like it. I'm not telling you, that you have to like it, it's just as always: different interessts -> different preferences. For some people PF fits better for others PU :)
The wheels of the b model are not realistic. They resemble wheels of a car, not a piece of heavy equipment. The A60h has beautiful wheels that should be used on the b model.
You know that they are the exact same wheels and rims, just with an extra piece added?
@@RacingBrickI dunno man I got OCD about these kinds of things
hey Racingbrick! you could do a video explaining how to make the 42113 with the pieces we alr have, I found a ngoc uyen guide the do it
You can follow his guide on Eurobricks. I'll do a video about the set when I can get a sample.
@@RacingBrick yes I know, I meant that you could do a video with it's result so everyone that doesn't know that it can be built knows it, I'm not thinking of building it
Dude racing brick, I literally had the same idea for my channel. Can I still do the comparison of 2014 vs 2020?
Sure you can, I don't have exclusive rights reserved for the Volvo Haulers ;)
RacingBrick thank you very much! And it was interesting to see that the overall torque is weaker in the newer hauler. Are all the powered up motors simply weaker than the power functions ones?
No, they are not weaker at all. Remember 42114 is much heavier than the 42030 B model and both of them are powered by an XL motor, plus 42114 looses some power with the complex gearbox system as well.
No one owns an idea.
Steering pivots are pretty weak compared with the loader B model, the cab of 42114 flops around when accelerating and braking.
hey Racingbrick, good video as always, btw, do you know any good 42097 mocs? i havent seen any interesting ones , the one with the conveyor belt or sth I don't see it useful
Check rebrickable... lots of people put up very good MOCS of existing sets there.
@@undead.rising I alr have a moc now lol
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I too have this frogs))
42030 all the time!
Hello ,
I couldn’t pass over the D option in the app when I first setup. Can you advise?
I will gear up
Take the 42114, add a 2nd drive motor, and keep on truckin'.
Good idea
This video is awesome
42114: "We need calibration to proper bluetooth connection and control"
42030: *"WHAT IS CALIBRATION???"*
PF vs PUP
You beat me to it!!!
Take the fake motor out of the front and make it a 6x6.
Motor swapped
i still love the new one, control + to me is better then pf mechanically, while as the pf has my nostalgia control + has proportional controls, and for a rc car fanatic like me that is the tipping point, toy grade rc cars have their place. but they are quite annoying and useless to me ( technically pf and control + are hobby grade). but a hobby grade to me should be easy to upgrade/fix ( official definition) but it should also have proportional controls in my eyes. also i love 6x6's and haulers/mining trucks.
I also like the new one and the potential possibilities of the Powered Up components but it can definitely use some upgrades :)
You can get proportional control in PF with a train rc.
The PF train controller is good for trains but practically useless for other vehicles, especially for car steering
@@RacingBrick I thought exactly the opposite, you can use it litterally like a steering wheel, plus you have the button for returning to center. It´s also nice for speed control. If you don´t like it for steering you can use a normal PF remote to steer together with the train remote for speed.
@@philp8872 I suggest to test the theory, because I did. If you try to steer or control the speed with the train remote you will realize that the response is terribly slow and it will not necessarily pick up all the dial turns, and for steering the return to center with the button is very inconvenient. It might work (with compromises) for a slow crawler but it is useless for anything faster than that. Despite the lack of proportional control the simple PF remote is much better if you have only PF IR.
IM GETTING THE NEW ONE FOR CHRISTMAS
Very nais
U deserve mote than thos i wish for u 999999999999999999999M subs
old vs. new
You steal my idea 😡
Interestingly,you doesnt have these any Volvo hauler video on your channel
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