Like your content. I too am a central Pa hunter and I am just getting into saddle hunting. I recently purchased a used rappel setup off line and it came with an odd knot. I removed it and placed a 3 wrap scaffold knot on it by watching your video. Very informative! Thanks. Feel safer in the tree!
Hey thanks for the demo! Great video and great safety awareness!!! I have 21 yrs military and 18 law enforcement Saddle hunter for about 6 years now, just getting into one sticking this year. So been dealing with knots, and safety for a long time! Again great demo!!! Thanks and good luck this season! Stagg’s in the wild great channel!
I appreciate your content. For this knot, I would leave a longer tag end in order to tie a figure 8 or overhand knot as a stopper knot. If the main knot slips the stopper will back up to the main and stop it from coming out. This does not change the fact you need to tie the scaffold knot correctly, it is another level of safety. Hunting is fun, Going home to family is Funner!!
@@EssentialOutdoors thanks for stopping in and good luck!! I think this is what too many people misunderstand about this knot. Watch the videos that I posted of professional climbers tying it. Because the main line is what’s pulling on itself there’s no need for the back up. Figure 8 or stop or not. The tail end does not move at all. When this knot is tied correctly, you cannot pull the tail end thru. They even test this on the videos that I posted in the description.
Hey, Just setup my rapelling line for one sticking. Used your video to tie my Scaffold knot with 3 wraps. Thank you for helping to keep us safe. : ) 😃👍
this is the first video of yours that I watched and I subscribed based on the way you were very thorough on this scaffold knot. Excellent job !! I get unnerved when people glaze over the detials especially when your safety/life is kind of dependent on it !!
I am new to saddle and saw the “don’t kill your self “ video. Scary and all viewers should practice at ground level until proficient. My neighbors probably think I’m off my rocker but I subscribe to the school that asks‘what’s the worst thing that could happen “
I've worked as a arborist on and off for 20 years and getting into saddle hunting now and seeing some many guys doing it I'm surprised more guys don't get hurt or killed. Good looking out! We learned our knots until we could do them blindfolded. I'd advise everyone to do the same. Lots of tree guys have died from leaning on a un safe knot!
I just got a back up set in and actually retired this one with a slightly longer tail although I haven’t had zero problems with the current one I’m using.
The comment below about a “stopper knot” on the tail end is 100 pct correct. I’m an experienced tci certified arborist and was taught on ANY climbing knot having a tail end in your climbing system (Prussik, Blake’s, scaffold, bowline, 8, etc) a simple overhand knot on the tail end will always prevent that tail end from pulling through. You may lose the function of the knot when it slides and the overhand catches…BUT…you’re still tied in and alive!!
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors yea the tail end of that knot u tied in this video..they are sayin u should leave a longer tail end hanging out an make a backup knot in that tail
I get the idea but it’s Unnecessary. I referenced two or three professional arborist videos in my description and none of them tied it back up not. The one that tested the knot tested it at extreme weights I believe 18 KN before the knot failed. I believe tying a back up not on that is unnecessary.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors oh ok yes sir..I just didn't know if u understood what they were referring too. I got a latitude method 2 xl and EW ultimate one stick..be my first year huntin out of one..I'm still learning about it..I have the madrock but I thought it was only for descending and so I bought a Kong duck too lol..it was a tad confusing at first but it sure is lighter than that summit titan I pack around public land for miles lol..bow season starts Saturday. I'm pumped
I would not put a stopper knot. It is unnecessary. When you understand how this particular knot works, it’s impossible to pull through itself before it breaks the rope.
You definitely could leave yourself a long enough tail to do so, however, I would encourage you to look at the videos. I posted in the description. The beauty about this is knot is all of the weight is pulling on the main line, not the tail. It’s virtually impossible to slip.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors you are absolutely correct 👍. I should of watched those videos before commenting. Those video were very helpful. Thanks again !
Hey no worries. I only reference to videos so that you could watch some slow motion demos of how that knot actually works. Thank you for asking the questions.
FYI, the scaffold knot is always 3 wraps. A two wrap is a poachers knot. Good video. In addition, the scaffold knot is a slip knot, which you didn't mention, and that is an important part of inspecting it for safety.
you should also always have a back up knot. the tail on the end of those knots are way too short, at least a hand length and better if you have a significant tail and then tie an extra knot
Are you referring to the tale end of the scaffold knot? If so, in all my research of that knot I have never seen anyone do that. Even the videos I linked in the description, they don’t do that.
I’m just trying to make sure I understand what you were saying. These companies I reference specializes in arborist and also rock climbing. You can go to the links that I put in the description. Without that back up knot these scaffold knots break at extreme weights.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors I think what Bob M is saying is that it is common practice in the climbing community to add a stopper on the tag end as an added security feature. It’s unlikely that a properly tied knot will come undone under load, but a stopper knot is cheap easy security to help prevent that from happening. Very common in climbing.
You could if you want, but it’s unnecessary. If you tie it the proper way the only movement you have is on the main line and it cinches down onto your quick link. The tail does not move.
I personally add a stopper knot on every rope I have. Its a quick and easy step to provide an extra layer of insurance. If your new to saddle hunting and aren’t familiar with terminal knots then I recommend to practice practice practice and also use stopper knots. Remember: you never know what can happen so always inspect your equipment before use. When you climb your safety, comfort, and piece of mind resides in your hands. Take it from someone who has fallen. Stopper knots are still a good idea even on properly tied terminal knots. God Bless.
I am just getting into saddle hunting this year an I too wanna do the single stick climbing. But I’m not sure what gear I need with my saddle like what repel rope an what carabiners I need . Can you give me some info?
Easternwoodsoutdoors.com has a lot of the stuff you need if not all. They sell complete kits. If you get on there you should be able to kind of identify exactly what you personally want and need
Should be mentioned not every knot becomes more safe by adding wraps. Prime case using fig 8 as EDK, EDK rolls maximum of 3 times so with long tails it’s safe. Fig 8 will roll at lower weight and continues to do so indefinitely. To make a bight, fig 8 is much safer. In this case, the breaking strength of scaffold knot is determined by radius of the quick link, adding the thrid wrap doesn’t increase safety at all.
I just put it on how I showed it in the video. You can still slide it to one end or the other if you need to even after it’s tightened. Let me know if that helps and if I understood your question right.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors I believe you've answered my questions. I wasn't sure if it belonged in one corner of the device over another, or maybe it doesn't matter.
I'm a novice as far as the whole knot tying thing is concerned. Is this scaffold knot essentially a barrel knot on a bight? It appears to be very similar.
What I’m trying to get people to do is go into the videos I referenced in the description which gives the educational portion. When this knot it tied properly, the “load strand” or the “main line” it what moves NOT the tail. That tail cannot “slip thru”. A few people have said that they tie a stopper not for redundancy and that’s perfectly OK, but again the tail does not move. In the video they test this not up to 18.2 5 KN and a tail does not move.. we don’t even come close to that at 200 pounds. The whole purpose for me of the video was to just help the community know that there is a right way to tie this knot and a wrong way. If a person wants to add a 6 inch tail, which is typical for let’s say your figure 8 I’m good with all of that. Some of my comments are only pointing out that this is knot is not like your typical knot because the load strand or the main line is, what’s moving, not the tail. I am 100% for safety! That was the whole purpose of the video. Hopefully that helps. Thx for stopping in and chatting!
Also, if you watch those reference videos, one of the professional, arborist and companies that doing this particular knot only uses the tail at the width of their hand, which is about 4 inches. I put four videos in the description that people who watch this video can reference and go back and learn the proper way, and make the safety decisions accordingly.
Just getting into repelling for hunting, but I can’t really understand why everyone has a knot connected to a quick link, instead of just creating a permanent loop with a figure-8 knot and running the working end through it to creat a ‘rope only’ slipknot on the tree. Is there something I’m missing as to the value added from the knot-to-quick link ?
Yes, if you did it, the way you are talking, you would then have to pull 40 feet of rope through the figure 8 loop. With the quick link, you can keep everything rolled up in your pouch, and simply wrap it around the tree, and feed the rope through the link.
From my experience it pulls out quick. My advice is that after you tie the knots you body weight test it on the ground. There is a difference between slow pulling that knot and giving it a shock or adding quick weight to it. Reference the last video in the description and they do a good job at educating people on that particular or knot. Even though in that video as they slow palled at the wraps still cinched down on the main line that’s not the experience that I have in the tree.
always tie a safety knot to finish off any load bearing knot so i would go 24 inches to give room for a simple overhand knot safety knot on the tag end.
On that scaffold hitch, is there a problem leaving too much tail? Why are you being so precise with the 6-7 inches? Why not give yourself extra length and tie a couple safety knots like an extra half hitch or 2?
I think with this particular not you can do whatever you would like. When you understand the knot, and you tied it right it is impossible to pull through itself as the main line is was holding the weight.
Even if you think this knot won't slip, I would leave yourself a little extra to place a safety in the end. One extra think to possibly be the saving grace of not falling 20+ feet out of a tree. I am in the fire department, and no matter what we ALWAYS place a safety knot behind our knots
There is ZERO chance for this knot to slip. The weight is on the mainline. I think when people understand how this knot works they will understand why you don’t have to tie an secondary back up. I reference Cheryl arborist videos in the description, and none of them back this not up. If this not slips, that means your quick link has broken and it’s pulling through itself. It’s impossible to make this slip. Check out the videos I referenced in the description.
So here’s the question. Is there a “recommended” number of wraps in the climbing community? Is 3 wraps actually safer or does it just make me feel better. Does adding an extra wrap actually hold better?
I have gone thru the videos myself looking for the answer… the last three videos all show a 3 wrap, not two wrap. For me I changed from the two wrap and went to a three wrap because it doesn’t hurt anything. Also, in that last video I posted that was the only “real testing“ I had seen. The three wrap held up to 18.7 KN which is closing in close to 5000 pounds so I felt like if I could replicate that I would definitely be safe!
I’m no expert but I don’t think there is a difference… especially used in this specific application. I do know that during rope testing/ breaking strength tests, the rope almost always breaks at the knot…. a knot typically cuts the ropes strength in half. A splice is the strongest termination but not all ropes can be spliced (pun intended) 🥴🔥. I like keeping my tail ends a little longer though. I heard 8x the width of the rope is about perfect…. Too long it could get in the way; too short and it could slip through.
@@Constitutionkiller-ye1xw my friend… WATCH the videos I have shared in my description. You do not need tie a knot on the end of this. Please watch ALL of the resources.
Appreciate you putting out info like this man. No telling how many lives you might save with a video like this 👍🏼
Hey, thanks for the feedback! Good luck to you.
Like your content. I too am a central Pa hunter and I am just getting into saddle hunting. I recently purchased a used rappel setup off line and it came with an odd knot. I removed it and placed a 3 wrap scaffold knot on it by watching your video. Very informative! Thanks. Feel safer in the tree!
Nice man! Anytime you need anything let me know. I have a ton of stuff that you could try
Hey thanks for the demo!
Great video and great safety awareness!!!
I have 21 yrs military and 18 law enforcement
Saddle hunter for about 6 years now, just getting into one sticking this year.
So been dealing with knots, and safety for a long time!
Again great demo!!!
Thanks and good luck this season!
Stagg’s in the wild great channel!
Yeppers!!!
Nice video - much better than several others that I have seen!!
Hey thx for stopping in! Good luck.
I appreciate your content. For this knot, I would leave a longer tag end in order to tie a figure 8 or overhand knot as a stopper knot. If the main knot slips the stopper will back up to the main and stop it from coming out. This does not change the fact you need to tie the scaffold knot correctly, it is another level of safety. Hunting is fun, Going home to family is Funner!!
@@EssentialOutdoors thanks for stopping in and good luck!! I think this is what too many people misunderstand about this knot. Watch the videos that I posted of professional climbers tying it. Because the main line is what’s pulling on itself there’s no need for the back up. Figure 8 or stop or not. The tail end does not move at all. When this knot is tied correctly, you cannot pull the tail end thru. They even test this on the videos that I posted in the description.
Hey, Just setup my rapelling line for one sticking. Used your video to tie my Scaffold knot with 3 wraps. Thank you for helping to keep us safe. : ) 😃👍
Nice thx and good luck!!
Thanks, Aaron, for sharing all the safety concerns and video links as well as the correct way to tie the scaffold knot. Much appreciated.
Yes sir!
this is the first video of yours that I watched and I subscribed based on the way you were very thorough on this scaffold knot. Excellent job !! I get unnerved when people glaze over the detials especially when your safety/life is kind of dependent on it !!
Thx for the kindness and the sub!
Thanks for the video. Tied the scaffold onto my rappel rope. Hope to get to use my one stick before hunting season is out. Need to practice first.
Yes sir! Good luck to you!
I am new to saddle and saw the “don’t kill your self “ video. Scary and all viewers should practice at ground level until proficient. My neighbors probably think I’m off my rocker but I subscribe to the school that asks‘what’s the worst thing that could happen “
Good stuff!
Thank you for putting this video out there!!!!
Yeppers! Thx
I've worked as a arborist on and off for 20 years and getting into saddle hunting now and seeing some many guys doing it I'm surprised more guys don't get hurt or killed.
Good looking out! We learned our knots until we could do them blindfolded. I'd advise everyone to do the same. Lots of tree guys have died from leaning on a un safe knot!
Yes sir! I have a wife and three kids to come home to! Thanks for checking in!
Thanks for sharing this information. Every hunter's main objective should be safety for themselves as well as other hunters.
Your welcome and thanks for stopping in!
Thanks for the video. I like 3 wraps too. But just a bit longer tail. 4 to 5 inches. Good luck this season!
Good luck as well!
I just got a back up set in and actually retired this one with a slightly longer tail although I haven’t had zero problems with the current one I’m using.
Thank you. Well done straight forward explaination.
Thank you! Good luck!
You are an outstanding instructor.
Thx man appreciate that!
The comment below about a “stopper knot” on the tail end is 100 pct correct. I’m an experienced tci certified arborist and was taught on ANY climbing knot having a tail end in your climbing system (Prussik, Blake’s, scaffold, bowline, 8, etc) a simple overhand knot on the tail end will always prevent that tail end from pulling through. You may lose the function of the knot when it slides and the overhand catches…BUT…you’re still tied in and alive!!
Are you referring to the tail end of the actual scaffold knot or the tail end of the rope itself? I am all about safety!
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors yea the tail end of that knot u tied in this video..they are sayin u should leave a longer tail end hanging out an make a backup knot in that tail
I get the idea but it’s Unnecessary. I referenced two or three professional arborist videos in my description and none of them tied it back up not. The one that tested the knot tested it at extreme weights I believe 18 KN before the knot failed. I believe tying a back up not on that is unnecessary.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors oh ok yes sir..I just didn't know if u understood what they were referring too.
I got a latitude method 2 xl and EW ultimate one stick..be my first year huntin out of one..I'm still learning about it..I have the madrock but I thought it was only for descending and so I bought a Kong duck too lol..it was a tad confusing at first but it sure is lighter than that summit titan I pack around public land for miles lol..bow season starts Saturday. I'm pumped
Nice man! That’s exciting! Good luck to you this year. If there’s anything you need help with let me know!
Great discretion, thank you!
Good luck!
Great direction and explanation of this knot!
Hey thx!
Thank you very much for your clear explanation and demonstrations. Appreciate it!
Your welcome!
Great video ❤😊
Thx!
Awesome video, thank you !
Yeppers
Good close up demonstration, thank you!
Would you consider leaving the tag end long and tying in a stopper knot just for cheap insurance?
I would not put a stopper knot. It is unnecessary. When you understand how this particular knot works, it’s impossible to pull through itself before it breaks the rope.
Aaron if someone wanted could they tie a stopper knot at the end of the tail knot for added safety ? Thanks !
You definitely could leave yourself a long enough tail to do so, however, I would encourage you to look at the videos. I posted in the description. The beauty about this is knot is all of the weight is pulling on the main line, not the tail. It’s virtually impossible to slip.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors you are absolutely correct 👍. I should of watched those videos before commenting. Those video were very helpful. Thanks again !
Hey no worries. I only reference to videos so that you could watch some slow motion demos of how that knot actually works. Thank you for asking the questions.
Just a thought. Could also add knot on tag end for it doesn't slip through just incase.
Yeah there are some who have. I trust the knot. Watch the videos in the description. The know holds at crazy weight!
Brother, thank you!
Been looking 4 a video I can trust!!
Yeppers! Make sure you reference all of the vids in the description, too!
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors Yes Sir 👍
What's the best size quick link to get? I see there are a bunch of diff sizes. Thanks
I just get mine from Eastern Woods Outdoors. He offers the triangle and Oval. I would get the Triangle one.
I use use a figure eight knot and was wondering if that has a drawback for saddle hunting.
The figure 8 is a strong knot I think this Scaffold Knot is more clean.
It also bites onto the quick link better.
FYI, the scaffold knot is always 3 wraps. A two wrap is a poachers knot. Good video. In addition, the scaffold knot is a slip knot, which you didn't mention, and that is an important part of inspecting it for safety.
Thanks for stopping in!
Can u give us a link to the quick link and what size you use . Pls
Here you go:
doublesteps.com/product/kong-quick-link-triangle-8mm/
you should also always have a back up knot. the tail on the end of those knots are way too short, at least a hand length and better if you have a significant tail and then tie an extra knot
Are you referring to the tale end of the scaffold knot? If so, in all my research of that knot I have never seen anyone do that. Even the videos I linked in the description, they don’t do that.
They should. As an ex rock climber you always put redundancy into the system, always. If anything should fail, you’ll always have a back up
I’m just trying to make sure I understand what you were saying. These companies I reference specializes in arborist and also rock climbing. You can go to the links that I put in the description. Without that back up knot these scaffold knots break at extreme weights.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors I think what Bob M is saying is that it is common practice in the climbing community to add a stopper on the tag end as an added security feature. It’s unlikely that a properly tied knot will come undone under load, but a stopper knot is cheap easy security to help prevent that from happening. Very common in climbing.
I agree, and I am all for safe practices, but with this knot its completely unnecessary.. good luck to all of you guys!
OMG! when did they change the name of a double fishermans knot?
Do you have a review on the sidewinder saddle that’s behind you?
I have the sidewinder in house. Doing a review soon
I’m new to saddles n such but can you add a few inches and put a stopper knot on the tag end?
You could if you want, but it’s unnecessary. If you tie it the proper way the only movement you have is on the main line and it cinches down onto your quick link. The tail does not move.
I personally add a stopper knot on every rope I have. Its a quick and easy step to provide an extra layer of insurance. If your new to saddle hunting and aren’t familiar with terminal knots then I recommend to practice practice practice and also use stopper knots. Remember: you never know what can happen so always inspect your equipment before use. When you climb your safety, comfort, and piece of mind resides in your hands. Take it from someone who has fallen. Stopper knots are still a good idea even on properly tied terminal knots. God Bless.
Saftey is KEY!! Thx for the input
I am just getting into saddle hunting this year an I too wanna do the single stick climbing. But I’m not sure what gear I need with my saddle like what repel rope an what carabiners I need . Can you give me some info?
Easternwoodsoutdoors.com has a lot of the stuff you need if not all. They sell complete kits. If you get on there you should be able to kind of identify exactly what you personally want and need
Get a Kong ascender..
Should be mentioned not every knot becomes more safe by adding wraps. Prime case using fig 8 as EDK, EDK rolls maximum of 3 times so with long tails it’s safe. Fig 8 will roll at lower weight and continues to do so indefinitely. To make a bight, fig 8 is much safer. In this case, the breaking strength of scaffold knot is determined by radius of the quick link, adding the thrid wrap doesn’t increase safety at all.
Why not use a loop back figure 8? Any specific reason?
The figure 8 is a strong knot also. I believe they test it in one of the videos that I posted in the description.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors awesome, I’ll check that out. Thanks!
How do you position the delta quick link on the knot before you tighten it? I just don't want the link to be on there wrong. Thanks!
I just put it on how I showed it in the video. You can still slide it to one end or the other if you need to even after it’s tightened. Let me know if that helps and if I understood your question right.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors I believe you've answered my questions. I wasn't sure if it belonged in one corner of the device over another, or maybe it doesn't matter.
I don’t think it matters… It will gravitate to one corner or the other.
Nice 👍
Great video!
Thx
I am brand new to the 1 stick game and this video was a life save. I am enjoying your videos, keep them coming!
Awesome man! Anything I can do to help, let me know.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors I’ve got 100’s of questions 🤣🤣
Lol!
Still liking your shikar mini? I’m waiting on mine hope it isn’t much longer our opener is Sat
I am, I can get 7’ on my first climb and after 3 moves my feet will be at 18’
I like the pack ability of the stick.
I'm a novice as far as the whole knot tying thing is concerned. Is this scaffold knot essentially a barrel knot on a bight? It appears to be very similar.
I am a novice too! Lol. I would have to look that knot up which tells you how much of novice I am. I only know it by the name, scaffold knot.
Platinum, you are the only one saying this knot doesn’t need a longer tail….
There are professionally trained people saying your tails are too short.
What I’m trying to get people to do is go into the videos I referenced in the description which gives the educational portion.
When this knot it tied properly, the “load strand” or the “main line” it what moves NOT the tail.
That tail cannot “slip thru”. A few people have said that they tie a stopper not for redundancy and that’s perfectly OK, but again the tail does not move. In the video they test this not up to 18.2 5 KN and a tail does not move.. we don’t even come close to that at 200 pounds.
The whole purpose for me of the video was to just help the community know that there is a right way to tie this knot and a wrong way. If a person wants to add a 6 inch tail, which is typical for let’s say your figure 8 I’m good with all of that.
Some of my comments are only pointing out that this is knot is not like your typical knot because the load strand or the main line is, what’s moving, not the tail.
I am 100% for safety! That was the whole purpose of the video. Hopefully that helps. Thx for stopping in and chatting!
Also, if you watch those reference videos, one of the professional, arborist and companies that doing this particular knot only uses the tail at the width of their hand, which is about 4 inches.
I put four videos in the description that people who watch this video can reference and go back and learn the proper way, and make the safety decisions accordingly.
Just getting into repelling for hunting, but I can’t really understand why everyone has a knot connected to a quick link, instead of just creating a permanent loop with a figure-8 knot and running the working end through it to creat a ‘rope only’ slipknot on the tree. Is there something I’m missing as to the value added from the knot-to-quick link ?
Yes, if you did it, the way you are talking, you would then have to pull 40 feet of rope through the figure 8 loop. With the quick link, you can keep everything rolled up in your pouch, and simply wrap it around the tree, and feed the rope through the link.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors cool, totally agree and understand. Thanks for the reply
Yeppers
Sewed loop or scaffold knot better?
I would go with the Scaffold Knot
If you tie it wrong does it pullout soon as its weighted the 1st time or can it undo over time?
From my experience it pulls out quick. My advice is that after you tie the knots you body weight test it on the ground.
There is a difference between slow pulling that knot and giving it a shock or adding quick weight to it. Reference the last video in the description and they do a good job at educating people on that particular or knot.
Even though in that video as they slow palled at the wraps still cinched down on the main line that’s not the experience that I have in the tree.
Thanks 💯
Yes sir!
As a beginner I will leave a foot tail end and finish with a square knot!
always tie a safety knot to finish off any load bearing knot so i would go 24 inches to give room for a simple overhand knot safety knot on the tag end.
I would agree in most circumstances, however with this knot watch the related videos I tagged.
On that scaffold hitch, is there a problem leaving too much tail? Why are you being so precise with the 6-7 inches? Why not give yourself extra length and tie a couple safety knots like an extra half hitch or 2?
I think with this particular not you can do whatever you would like. When you understand the knot, and you tied it right it is impossible to pull through itself as the main line is was holding the weight.
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors thanks!
Even if you think this knot won't slip, I would leave yourself a little extra to place a safety in the end. One extra think to possibly be the saving grace of not falling 20+ feet out of a tree. I am in the fire department, and no matter what we ALWAYS place a safety knot behind our knots
There is ZERO chance for this knot to slip. The weight is on the mainline. I think when people understand how this knot works they will understand why you don’t have to tie an secondary back up. I reference Cheryl arborist videos in the description, and none of them back this not up. If this not slips, that means your quick link has broken and it’s pulling through itself. It’s impossible to make this slip. Check out the videos I referenced in the description.
So here’s the question. Is there a “recommended” number of wraps in the climbing community? Is 3 wraps actually safer or does it just make me feel better. Does adding an extra wrap actually hold better?
I have gone thru the videos myself looking for the answer… the last three videos all show a 3 wrap, not two wrap. For me I changed from the two wrap and went to a three wrap because it doesn’t hurt anything. Also, in that last video I posted that was the only “real testing“ I had seen. The three wrap held up to 18.7 KN which is closing in close to 5000 pounds so I felt like if I could replicate that I would definitely be safe!
I’m no expert but I don’t think there is a difference… especially used in this specific application. I do know that during rope testing/ breaking strength tests, the rope almost always breaks at the knot…. a knot typically cuts the ropes strength in half. A splice is the strongest termination but not all ropes can be spliced (pun intended) 🥴🔥. I like keeping my tail ends a little longer though. I heard 8x the width of the rope is about perfect…. Too long it could get in the way; too short and it could slip through.
Well I hope others see this response (I doubt it), but you should be tying a knot on the tail end as well, just saying.
@@Constitutionkiller-ye1xw my friend… WATCH the videos I have shared in my description. You do not need tie a knot on the end of this. Please watch ALL of the resources.
Have to check my climbing ropes to make sure wrap 2 went knuckle side of wrap 1.
Never hurts to double check.
5:40 - you’re welcome
Help me out man.. I’m not following?
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors lol it's when you start tying the knot
Ah I’m following now! Lol
7 min mark for the knot.
Never saddle a dead horse
Words of wisdom
I use a Buffalo hitch. Much better
Good deal!
@@platinumpursuitoutdoors you should give it a shot. No matter how much you load it it's still easy to untie
I will have to check it out. Thx for the heads up.