Were the Women of Petra More Important Than Men?
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- The Nabataeans worshipped powerful female deities and built lavish shrines in their honor. Could this religious order be a clue into the elevated status of women in Petra?
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Not only the Nabateans but all Arabs worshipped Al-Uzza, Al-Lat and Manat
Actually the original idols of the three deities were kept in Makkah alongside with other 357 original idols of all the deities of all the Arabic tribes
However these 3 deities had an important status because out all the deities there it was them +Hubal who were kept inside of the Kaaba
Kaaba is pagan?!
@@shareem1779Yes. You see Historically the Kaaba predates Islam it actually has been there for at least a thousand years before Islam and even before Mohamad’s tribe Qureish even existed Makkah was always the most sacred city in Arabia and many Arabian tribes had fought for it and many had ruled it including important ones such as Jurhum and Khuza’a, and all Arabs before Islam believed that it was Abraham and his Son Ishmael who built it (yes the knew about them since Arabs also are Semites and the patriarch of Adnanites(including Qureish and Khazā’a) is by both Arabic Jewish traditions believed to be Ishmael, you see Arabic Polytheism is one particular type of Polytheism and even though Muslims burned many Pre-Islamic records from the Era of “Al-Jahiliya” or ignorants “which is the term with which Muslims describe Pre-Islamic Arabs) we still know that Arabs used to bea hybrid between Monotheism and polytheism you see the believed in the God of Abraham who they called Al-Lah which might mean The “the God” “with a doubled definite article” and they believed in his oneness and that no one was equal to him but they also had other lower ranked Gods called Al-aliha plural of Ilah and they believed them to be mediators between humans and the Major God Allah it was like a feudal monarchy with a king who is the sole ruler but with other dukes and princes and each one of Aliha had a specific role or domain for example the highest ranked one Hubal was the God of divination, rain and war and his consort Manāt was the Goddess of fate, fortune, time, death, and destiny.. etc. These two wigh Al-‘Uzzā and Al-Lāt were the most venerated Aliha and they were worshipped by all the Arabs and unlike other Gods who were placed around the Ka’bā these three were placed inside it and all Arabs from all the tribes and from all around Arabia would go on an Annual pilgrimage to them, and the month of pilgrimage for the Arabic pagans then was the same as the month of pilgrimage for Muslims today and btw today is the first day of that month, it’s called thil-Hijja which means “that of the pilgrimage”.
@@almami1599 i don't think muslim would believe this, thats crazy tbh
@@almami1599 there is no lower ranked gods linked to Aalah
watch what you saying , in one verse of Qur'an al
Alah say that he has no son and no one is equivalent to him
@@shareem1779 Muslims do believe this EXCEPT one major thing, the Kaaba is not pagan, it was built by Prophet Abraham by the order of God (Allah) to perform pilgrimage around it as an act of worship, the first one to perform the ritual of going around the Kaaba was done by Prophet Abraham himself, and Arabs continued to follow this tradition of their forefather Abraham except they then attributed partners to Allah and made up their own false deities, gave the one and only creator sons and daughters and whatnot, these were the pagan Arabs between the time of Abraham and Prophet Muhammad which was thousands of years. Prophet Muhammad returned the Kaaba to its non pagan origins by removing all the other deities around it and inside it and restored the worship of only one God (Allah) without any partners.
How is it “astonishing” that women may have been in control of the region/area at some point during history? The choice of words says a great deal about our own modern culture.
Indeed, dear friend. Women are sacred, we all entered this world through one. Why most men have chosen to stop revering this and stain women with such resentment is beyond my understanding.
It's the truth after a history of women being second class citizens😟
Be there or be square, they said
Not just in petra but in all the arabia ... Maviya were queen abd she leads all the arabs ... Semsi was the queen of all arabs with no king ...
But they claim that Arabians used to bury their daughters alive?
وسام شرف المطيري
They did. In the age of jahiliya
Then why did they worship female deities, and my tribe (Fazarah) had a female ruler called Um Qirfa. Can you explain ?
وسام شرف المطيري
The "age/period/time" of jahiliya was only temporary. A few hundreds of years before prophet Muhammed(saw) was born.
Um Qirfa lived during the time of Muhammad why hasn't she been buried alive?, plus if the Arabians buried their daughters, how can they have children? how can they find wives.
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Oh how has times changed so dramatically.
Where can I purchase this episode?
behold the matriarchy
If that's the matriarchy then the matriarchs are missing. No one is over 20 years old. They have no wisdom in their faces or bodies. It's a childish depiction of the matriarchal culture.
And it was born in Arabia
it wasn't a matriarchy
Cause of that Nabateans dont exist anymore
@@newworldorder6764 No, that isn't why Petra failed. Earthquake, Flashflood, another Earthquake and a bunch of greedy Romans who wanted the wealth of the Nabateans successful incense trade. (It was a much stickier world back then.)
hey I think makes and females should be treated the same
Females Males equality now
I want to pleasure a female goddess
M.L ........
M.L why
sameeee
1:25 is the funniest thing EVER!!!! really???? you couldn't find a more realistic costume??? a cheap bellydancing hipscarf for a head covering? HAHAHHA
Mademoiselle Emma lmfao saw that too
I had to pause it because I legit thought I saw a tag sticking out of it
U thought the same thing i have a blue one from high school
I read up on there society and that is what they used, they used it as a belly dancing scarf or head covering depending on what they were doing at the time, it was very versatile because in there society it was not uncommon to brake out into belly dancing at any one moment so you had to be prepared.
Big Baller that's.... actually a helpful and interesting fact! I didn't know that. Thanks for looking into it. I just laughed at it because it was the exact one I got at a renaissance festival when I was a kid.
Amazing..power to women too
What documentary is this called?
Thanks 🙏 👍
it's very commonplace that cultures which started out matriarchal and with women in all powerful positions were turned into misogynistic societies where women had little to zero rights. At the same time, female deities were replaced with male ones. Thus, the power shift was not only societal, but "justified" from a religious angle.
Note how all big religions left today usually have large parts of their doctrine devoted entirely to the denigration of women.
Of course, there were also some cultures where both sexes were pretty much completely equal (Ancient Egypt, for example).
There will never be any equality again though as long as the noxious abrahamitic nonsense religions aren't abolished.
When I discovered how those abrahamic religions destroyed women's status and dignity by making them inferior, I became atheist. It's indeed because of those religions that women are denigrated in many places.
Rome Greece Persia and the Germanics, all were patriarchs without Abrahamic religions
read some history before spreading ur hateful agenda
@@vdl9673 These Gnostics are the true enemy of mankind. There is a reason why they are called "intellectual satanists". No wonder, they hide their true ideology from us (profanes), and pretend as if they only know "how to love". In reality, they are the deceivers.
@@vdl9673 um... Valkyries, Freya... Aphrodite, Juno... Sura Anahita... who wrote the history you have been reading?
Maybe women were overthrown because men didn’t had rights back them etc. like the reversed scenario of the Morden world. Men overthrow woman. I dunno I’m a monoey
Those Godesses were inside the Ka'bah in Mecca before Islam. They were deities worshipped by the Arab tribes of Quraysh until the conquest “of Mecca by Muslims led by Muhammad in December 629 or January 630 AD (Julian), 10-20 Ramadan, 8 AH. The conquest marked the end of the wars between the followers of Muhammad and the Quraysh tribe.” [according to Wikipedia]. There is a scene illustrating well that transition in faith in the movie “The Message” 1976.
The real Kabah was in Petra. All events mentioned in the quran happened in Petra. U should really see Dan Gibson's documentary
@@maverick9528 I'll do hoping to find scientific evidence for your hypothesis
@@maverick9528 that's fake conspiracy theories 😀
I always think there's going to be more and then it ends
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Was watching Bettany Hughes show last night and I didn't know much about the Nabataeans and their culture. Lion connection again I see like Egyptian teachings taught...there's a cat theme running through some of these cultures.
Haven't watched the video yet. I know nothing about Petra.
But the answer is yes.
As a depiction of a matriarchal culture the Smithsonian Institute have failed miserably: The matriarchs are missing. All the women are 20 years old: It smacks of a schoolboy fantasy for group sex (with his big sisters) by torchlight. It's childish in the extreme and of such amateurish quality and arrangement, I despair. The male narrator makes it seem like a commercial for laundry detergent. Whether or not the "power and status" of women was or is recognized by men has no relevance. The power and status of women is timeless and all encompassing.
Preach!
@@BraidedLady It's time we took our status back
It has nothing to do with your modern interpretation of women in society. The goddesses were more important than men, women, children, camels or sheep. It lead to their downfall.
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I am pretty sure we have learned from now these temples were super ornate. I doubt the preistesses we're doing their rituals on a cave like room with dirt floor.
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Maybe for the next video on women's roles in society, Smithsonian could use a female narrator who talks normally, not like the narrator of some unsolved crime show.
True, he's trying waaaay too hard to sound cool.
it doesnt matter.
I sure love my Petra
The guy at the beginning of the video looks like a brown haired Napoleon Dynamite lol 😂
Gosh!!!
they reveal that the statue is of a smile emoji
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Similar to the goddesses worshipped till date in India!
Kinda but also far different.
We middle easterners had our own Gods.
Every one worshiped Ay Shakt-E Ambaa in India (Su Ra Sena)
Su Ra Sena ( Solar Dynasty ) ruled from North Italy to Egypt to Arabia to Partha/E Ra-an to Arya (India)
@@jenylass1521 I'm not Arab I'm Palestinian
@@jenylass1521 Palestine no f
Societies can be Patriarch even if they worshiped godesses, this is a very redicilous conclusion by you
Arabs were .. and still are very patriarch
having goddesses doesn't mean anything
a Sheikh (Chieftain) and a warrior marries multiple women and spread his genes
many non-Arabs fail to realize that Allat , Al-Uzza , Manat
were thought of as Daughters of Allah
prior to Islam and pure monotheism which removed this idea
so they were smaller gods to the Almighty
Social infrastructure was very important.
I was thinking much the same thing - the existence of a cult for a female Goddess, or three, does not, in itself, denote a Matriarchal or gender equal society - take the Cult of Isis (which swept across the Roman world) or the Cult of the Mother Mary in Christianty. However, it would appear that there is other evidence to back up their claims here, although they do not discuss it in such a short video.
Yo when he said cult and so on the subtitles said
“The cult of a loser”
It really got 🤣
lmaof 🥲
According to deadsea scrolls papatha she came to the great temple of Petra to Sue some people
Archeologist believes that doesn’t mean that they are correct
We should accept these ancient religions as the predecessors of our modern beliefs.
👋 from East to West.
1:56 Thats aku aku
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Sunny Wakefield how can one person stop it? It’s impossible.
@@ukrainianamerican79years72 Don't mind her, she just a troll of humanity
At 1:51, looks like Gumby!
Alluha or Adah, jordan petra or mount seir
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Heh....no
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the hierarchie by the time men's power but as queen Elisabeth's British.......
governence similary not bad......
The larges sacred city from gathered bani Quraish..
No, they just knew their place.
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Theface ofawsomeness lmao. I can't unsee it now.
I don’t get the moisturise me comments...
Oh nooo! I can’t unsee it eitherrrr!
When Arab started respecting women.
They will become powerful
LoL no they'll stay the same.
@detached It will happen when Arab men support there women.
Because women need support!!
nabateans are actually Arabs and these goddesses were worshiped in all arab tribes even in the times of the prophet
But Greek and Romans also venerated goddess...
hello world
hi
Yakapa, eega yedden,
PETRA COMES FROM OUT OF HERE !!!!
SAKA , SUMMNAGBE
I WORK WITH E.TS...!!!!
You know No God or Goddess Almighty.
I hate when western people pretanend they understand arab history literaly we know real details about this in primary school.
the Arabs formed as a people between the northwestern part of the Arabian Peninsula and Jordan and the Syrian desert
In ancient times the Arabs migrated to Yemen and spread their language and culture
Yemenis were arabized
inscriptions in ancient Arabic are found in the northwestern part of the Arabian Peninsula and Jordan and the Syrian desert and Syria and Mesopotamia and Palestine
@@ibrahimhercules9466 arabs originated in Yemen then many tribe's lived in different areas arabs of Palestine and Jordan and Lebanon lived there since 10ceuntry BCE are called abnanite Arabs arabs of Mesopotamia lived there since akkadians are called Marsh Arabs arabs of the gulf lived there since early semetic people started living are called Qahtanian Arabs
is Allah the male langiustic version of Alat? i am arabic and it does make some sense am I right?
lila omer It would make sense! that's pretty cool
lila omer
No... Allah is the God of Abraham. The only reason why the Arabs believed in Allah was via prophet Ismaiel(as), the son of prophet Ibrahiem(as). The name "Allah" comes from "al-Ilah" or "The-God", but in one word/name. Thus, Allah.
Even though "Al-lat" may sound like "Allah", it roots are different. Btw, Allah is no male, neither female... So, there is no male or female version of Allah's name, or female goddes version of Allah(swt). And i seek refuge with Allah from this shirk. Allah has no gender. The only reason why "He", "His", "Him", God(instead of goddes), and more "masculine" words are used when speaking about Allah, is because such masculine words can stand for a male being, but also a genderless being.
If i say "she took the diamond", you can be certain a female took the diamond. But if i say "he took it", it could be a male being that took the diamond. But it could also be a genderless being like an angel or something that took the diamond...
Wa Allahu A3lam.
lila omer yes, language reveals a lot about human history doesn’t it
Allah means "deity" the same thing as "god" (little g) does in English. Like in English it is also used to describe the God of Abraham and Jesus.
Mary-Patricia Foy
No "ilah" means deity or a god or something that is worshipped, etc...
Allah is specifically "al-Ilah" in one word/name. The God, a true monotheistic name.
Muslim and Christian prayer come from Jewish tanakh Christian women were cover head they call nuns or carmélites but Muslim adopted. And ancient arab women were not cover their hair they have long hair freedom they were queen in ancient time
Uza. manat. Are mentioned in the quran they were idols of people called thamud check in TH-cam the people of thamud also known as people of petra
Mohammad used to worship these idols...
@@anandsinha7021 even used to abuse these goddesses.
I think it's interesting how alot of these societies in the ancient middle East thought of women in high regard or at least they typically treated them as equals or almost equals and then Islam came in and the middle East and North Africa became completely mysoginistic obviously it was Islam and not the culture and this proves that also look at the sabean kingdom also known as Sheba now believed to be in southern Arabia it was ruled by a queen something that would never happen in that part of the world now
Arabia was mysoginistic even Before islam, in pre-islamic Arabia people were burying their new born daughters alive, women were treated as property a son could inherit his mother (as his wife) after his father's death, women were not allowed to inherit a single cent, women were not permitted to remarry after the death of her husband unless the son decide whether he wished to marry her or give her in marriage to anyone else etc. Civilisation always changes...
Islam teaches respect to everyone as well as modesty. The mysogynism came from a cultural tradition, not a religious one.
lol you are so ignorant about the pre islamic arabs..... every thing you said was actually the opposite of what happened xD
Emma Jenkins Which Quran are you reading, the same one with allows wife beating lol
Anton Fuchs Exactly.
If you're wondering about the language spoken by the woman at the ceremony ; It's the moroccan language.
*dialect not language. They should have used levantine or from Arabian Peninsula.
اللغة العربية
@@lovenature1919 Arabic is dead
Cant you find Arabian women of the gulf so u brung Marrocans ?
Gulf arab women arent real arabs, they are mixed with black persians and indians. Nabataeen settled in Levant and Mesopotamia.
@@lovenature1919
The Arab Nabatean settled in the north of the Arabian Peninsula and the south of the Levant. As for the story of mixing, the peoples of the Levant are literally a mixture of all nations
@@lovenature1919 كاذب
@@Before7years u are the liar and in denial. Take a look at urself in the mirror or take a DNA test. Ur govt bring all those indian immigrants plus your ppl have mixed with black slaves and indian workers and persian settlers. So many khaleejis have Black/african, indian/South asian and persian blood. Pure and best arab tribes settled in Mesopotamia and Levant. Nabataeens arent related to modern gulf arabs, they are closely related to arab tribes of Levant and Mesopotamia, and I’m referring to the full semitic Arab tribes of these regions NOT the citizens in these nations, for example a kurd from iraq or turkmen from Syria isnt related to arab nabataeen.
@@user-dg5vx8li8f 1. Thing not everyone who lives in Levant and Mesopotamia are arabs, same as not everyone in the gulf is arab. For example in Syria there are Chechens and in Lebanon there are tons of armenians, and in Iraq there are kurds and turkmen. BUT there are also full semitic arab tribes who lived without mixing with NON-arabs. There are still tribes in Levant and Mesopotamia who didnt mix with any ethnic, they Even look different and unique from their neighbours, they still look like ancient arabs. They are tall, white/pale and light eyes and hair. While gulf arabs are heavily mixed with black/africans (because of slavery), South asians and persians(funny because they hate iranians). Just look at the phenotype is enough to tell. So nabataeen are closer to arabs in Levant and Mesopotamia, and dont really have alot in common with modern gulf arabs.
why are they speaking Tunisian arabic?
is it agenda driven? or you just couldn't find jordanian actors?!
EDIT: they did not speak tunisian arabic, but another variety of Arabic in North-West Africa
LightBearer I didn't hear the Tunisian language!
1:18 do you hear arabic?
I'm Tunisian and this is not the Tunisian lg
1:18 do you hear Arabic?
the conjugation patterns she used in
Neeh-deeh-o and Nit-man-aho
are in the third person plural which is common across north africa
I watched the entire documentary when it came out. before it is release on youtube. not sure if it's on youtube btw
and i recognized the dialect as tunsian, it may have been other north african dialect though
but it is definitely an arabic dialect from north west africa
I didn't say that it's not Arabic!! it is just not Tunisian and these are definitely not Tunisian actors.
:)
Do you know Al is with any noun equal to The in English?
Like Allah is 2 part name Al Lah , means the Lah. Who was Lah ?
A Raja Lah , who was worshiped as any other king like David or Sulman or Abraham, the only difference is he came from India/ Pakistan ( Indus Valley civilization) about 3 thousands years ago.
Do google about history of city Lahore.
considering those are semitic gods and not indo European gods, I doubt your theory
A pagan God called "Lah" Simply doesn't exist
Just because they had female god doesn't mean they were more important. I mean look at Hinduism, their main god is a female but look how they treat their ladies. Look at history, back then before Islam, in pre-Islam Arabia, it was common place among many to bury their baby daughters alive. It was said that the first man to do so, the man who began this tradition, was named Qais ibn Aasem al-Tamimy who when fighting with another tribe, his daughter was captured. According to the rules of war of that time, she 'married' a man from the tribe that won that battle. Some years later when a peace treaty was made with the tribe Qais found his daughter and wanted her to return back home with him. Instead she chose to stay with her husband. When this happened Qais made an oath that if he ever had another daughter he would bury her alive. And of course with time he did, and he buried her alive. And this tradition continued with the pre-Islamic Arabs then onwards.
hotxhotguy ‘Look at how they treat their women’ please don’t make generalised comments, and that a societal problem meaning the issue regards people of ALL faiths, India and Asia are made up different faiths
hotxhotguy matriachal goddess is a sign of power. In India pure Goddess worshippers consider the male to be inferior, n the priests were males themselves.... Some cults married the goddess to their male deities while others worshipped their sons n daughters more. But the principal deity if male, the females were at the gods feet while those that considered women equal had them positioned by their side n over them.
In most European cultures, female deities were of beauty, fertility n grace but India has numerous Goddesses riding for battle which meant females did fight alongside males until Greek Roman n Persian civilization influence of purity from females entered India, the females had much right over the males n were much more powerful. So its the west that brought female servitude into India.
Most Muslim cultures too have female powered dynamics but it depends on local culture not Islam as per.... Look at Afghanistan Bangladesh n India, Arabic Islam was a huge downer from local Islam mix with regional faiths.
hotxhotguy
افف ياكرهي للي يتكلمون عن شعوب ثانية بكل ثقة و كانهم يعرفون كل شي عنهم ، لم يكن دفن الاناث شائعًا الا لدى قبيلة قريش !
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maybe theyre the descendants of lilith
The're Arabic
Lilith is a demoness not human
the real name of "lilith" is actually Lilatu in Semitic languages .. same in Arabic when we say Lilatu Qadr (ليلة القدر)
the Great Goddess of the night, wisdom and judgement ... worshiped by Akkadians
all Ancient Semites were Arabs .. Akkad is a city not an ethnic group
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I hope no one will literally make a cult like this in this era...guess I saw one already
Don't men and women have different goals and interests. Women might have been more valued, but men have always and will always desire power, knowledge, and success.
Ahhh Smithsonian didn't expect Moroccans to watch this . Please if you want to reincarnate a scene , bring people of that region. Not Moroccans talking moroccan dialect ( Marrakech accent ) representing Petra / jordan...no credibility there mate !
well....that's as it should be.
No no men still ruled, the female goddess have nothing to do with women rights
Nooo God but Allah
Longest Smithsonian video I've watched!
yep
As usual every thing beautiful gets replaced by trash
WE WUZ QUEENZ N SHIET.
The Internet Tough Guy wrong place
The Internet Guy these aren't black queens jackass
The're Arabic
The language the woman speaks is berber from north africa😂
🤨 It's the Nabatean Arabic, if you're inferiour just accept it instead of stealing other nation's cultures.
@@DiabBinGhanimAlHilali Wasn’t you who said that you are an African Sabian and not an Arab?
@@GLOmar-my6xc
I never said that, I'm a proud ethnic Arab, and Arab Nationalist ...
And what's this african sabian by the way ? I've never heard of this ethnicity ...
*ANCIENT FEMINISM*
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*REAL* Feminism.
No absolutely Different and PIRE Unlike todau all too different. You're mistaken.
According to Dan Gibson Petra was the original Mecca and hometown of Muhammad -as a result of the Islamic Civil Wars (Fitna) following the death of the prophet the rebel Ibn Jubair when defeated by the Ummayads took the sacred stone to Mecca in Saudi Arabia and it became the holy site instead of Petra(Becca)The old Mecca (Petra) was destroyed by an earthquake.
But that's not a fact
Also that hypothesis was proven to be a lie.
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Yeah,
ايش دخل ابوكم
موكلين نفسكم اوصياء على باقي البشر !
Before Islam came in the Arabian Peninsula Women are not treated as Human being they were treated worsen then animals they didn't have any rights Roman and Persian treat their own women like an object....
uhmmmm... persia had female war commanders back then
This is what I was always taught, but nowadays many people are denying it.
Romans had women's rights and proper ownership.
@@klarity1111 this Muslim is a liar and completely doing the exact opposite of facts women actually had a rights and freedom in ancient Arabia pre-islamic Lee Etc
@@yaruqadishi8326 I will have to research this out. I really was taught that women had no rights before Muhammad and were chattel. I want to know the truth, but it takes time to do good research.
Islam should be banned for matriachy to return again !!!!
Before Islam Arabs would bury their daughters alive. Having a female goddess doesn’t mean that the women were treated equally.
Where is petra now??? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Keep digging "Smart ass machinery influenced" Smithsonians until u find their catalist uknow sum kind of emotional &fizikal well being Tool it definitely should b rite deer just needed to b unearthed u can get help4rom d same Machinery u r Advkating
don't know what in hell you're saying, but I would give my life protecting your right to say it
and that's why Petra went to shit....
I bet you would never tell that to your mom or GF
This is what Men do. They blame women for their failure. Typical.
Autumn Shag Go make me a sandwich, bitch.
Johnald Redham Phew, thank god you like sausages too.
Johnald Redham Why don't you make me a sandwich you impulsive, twisted, bitch? Or is it that your "manhood" is being threatened.
"Were the Women of Petra More Important Than Men?"This would explain the downfall of Petra
What about ancient Rome?
Why? If men are so wonderful, why not go to jail and bask in the male world where they take what they want and destroy everything
Many men were leaders and they fell and their kingdoms fell haha
Lat and Uzza have been destroyed and have been given good riddance for the rest of eternity