Building a plane someone else designed would be so boring....I appreciate your persistence and confidence-it is not a mistake if you use it to improve your design....and it worked. Thank you for expressing your enthusiasm and determination, very refreshing!
How you don't have millions of subscribers I don't understand. You are one of the most entertaining makers, down to earth, clumsy at times, and always funny. It always makes my day when there is new video to be watched! You can practice flying with a mini-drone maybe. Or is it very different? Your video actually reminded me and my family spending days to get my DJI Spark down from the top of a 23m tree. To the patience of my family we finally succeeded, so now I can get it into even harder to reach places!
I watched his vacuum video two years ago on a different computer. Back then I didn't have a youtube account or might have not realized that he does stuff like that on a regular basis. Luckily, I saved the browser tab and just noticed my mistake :) P.S.: I'm from Germany and lots of stuff somehow reminds me of home, although it is Poland, that's funny. I really like the oak trees he has. It's cool that he talks in English so I can understand it :)
I didn't see you mention this in the video, the motor produces torque which makes the plane turn in one direction, like what was happening earlier in your tests. If you orient the motor to point a few degrees to one corner (I believe it should be left/up judging on your tests) then it should help cancel out that roll and you would need less dihedral.
Jak na pierwszą budowę i naukę pilotażu to i tak super! Nauka na małym modelu jest bardzo trudna, małe modele są bardzo "nerwowe" i podatne na każdy podmuch wiatru. Warto podłączyć się do symulatora na początek z aparaturą, bo wyrabia to nawyki ratunkowe. Śmigło ma za dużą średnicę w stosunku do rozpiętości skrzydeł, dlatego przy dodawaniu gazu obraca modelem, mniejsze śmigło, albo dwa na skrzydłach o przeciwnych kierunkach obrotu, żeby zniwelować momenty obrotowe. Przez ten moment musiał być tak głęboki wznios skrzydeł, a tym samym zmniejszenie ich powierzchni nośnej. Cięgna bowdena nie powinny być luźne, tylko ułożone w sztywnych rurkach jak filament w drukarce. Dokładanie masy takiej jak serwa odbiorniki itp najlepiej jak najblizej środka cieżkości. Pod skrzydłami jest dużo zbędnej pianki ;) Sprawdzaj czy model lata po rzucie z ręki bez silnika i wprowadzaj korekty trymerów na aparaturze, jeśli dobrze szybuje wtedy włączaj silnik. Jeśli każde dotkniecie drążka sterującego powoduje, ze model wariuje, to albo skróć ramiona sterujące, albo na aparaturze ustaw sterowanie EXPO (logarytminczne), wtedy nie będzie taki podatny. Wychylenia sterówek wcale nie muszą być duże, przy większej prędkości podczas lotu, wystarczy minimalne odchylenie od środka, żeby wytworzyć wystarczającą siłę do skrętu.
@@nikodembartnik super! Cieszę się ze mogłem pomóc. Wpadł mi jeszcze jeden pomysł. Zamiast przerabiać mocno cały model może dołożyć lotki? Dwie sterowane na jednym serwie . Serwo nad skrzydłem, dwuramienny orczyk do lewej i prawej lotki. Przy tym silniku i śmigle pewnie trzeba dołożyć jakieś większe lotki, żeby była większa powierzchnia i w razie czego je skracać. Wycinanie tych co są zaznaczone w piance może niewiele dać. Wtedy możesz zupełnie zrezygnować ze wzniosu skrzydeł i skręcanie będzie znacznie łatwiejsze. Żeby wzmocnić model można okleić go taśmą pakową i wprasować ją żelazkiem (najlepiej starym, bo potrafi się klej z krawędzi taśmy poprzyklejać). Musisz zrobić próby, ale robi się to na minimalnej temperaturze, na folii ma się pojawić struktura granulek pianki. Są też specjalne folie, ale są mało rozciągliwe i ciężko będzie to zrobić na takim małym modelu. Taśma dodaje masy, ale bardzo wzmacnia, warto zastosować na wszystkich krawędziach natarcia i dookoła na elementach które mogą się odłamać (dziób, ogon itp). Jeśli ma być wszystko oklejone, to nakładaj ją jak dachówkę, żeby wiatr jej nie podrywał i stosuj lekką zakładkę, bo będzie się minimlanie kurczyć podczas grzania. W razie czego pisz, co wiem to powiem ;) PS. żeby nie łamać śmigieł, a jest to częste nawet przy poprawnym lądowaniu jak nie ma podwozia, to warto zastosować piastę z oringiem, w razie kolizji odgina się śmigło, albo w najgorszym wypadku pęka oring
Just got all the exact components but off Ali express. Just recently got into planes after now been doing fpv with multi rotors for years and have 8 quads. And one plane so can’t wait to build this guy, everything the same parts as you
I have the same exact glider. Now I'm going to try a conversion with spare parts. I've had the thought, but wanted to see one done on the exact foam fuse, so awesome and thank you! Great job!
Great idea, really liked your perseverance. I've built a few flying contraptions from scratch and would like to point out a few things. When testing a RC plane, it is best to first do a bunch of glide/unpowered tests, that'd get you info on how the plane behaves on its own. It'll also let you know if your GC is right or not, if your plane tends to roll, if your control surfaces have enough authority. Adding power can induce new variables like torque and yawing due to that torque, attitude changes, etc. Also, bending the wings like you did will introduce added drag and will reduce the wing's lift capabilities, shopping the wings in half and adding bracing to add dihedral would have been a better solution. In a rudder and elevator only plane, always shoot for bigger rudder and elevators than on a aileron, rudder, and elevator plane. Also, your plane is a bit tail heavy, that's why it was so twitchy to controls input.
Huh,small world! I've just bought a foam plane,one just like this,and I've had the same idea of converting it into an rc plane! And this was one of the first videos that I've found regarding building a styrofoam rc plane!
Congratz on getting such a small plane to fly and be controllable. There are smaller electronics available, such as 5 gram servos, which will add little to the price, any weight reduction is huge for the performance of small aircraft. As you noticed the servo placement in foam will weaken the airframe, you can use the weight of those servos to move the CG forward (long push rods are lighter than long servo wires !!!). Very entertaining, well told story. Kudos for showing your failures along with your successes.
kilka miesięcy temu myślałem nad zrobieniem właśnie takiego samolotu i dołożeniem arduino nano i podłączyć reciver do portu pwn razem z serwami i esc, i spróbowac zrobić autopilota(automatyczne utrzymanie wysokości). Myślę ze to to fajny pomysł na odcinek. Robisz zajebiste filmiki pozdro z Torunia.
Good idea ! I have think to build the same from this low cost airplains. The contruction is on the way good, but the Problem is the draw torgue of the electric motor.
To retrieve objects stuck in trees, a weight attached to a light string allows you to throw it and shake the branch its stuck in. Here is an example video by a professional tree climber using a throw weight and line. You can use any light string and anything for a weight, ie kite string and some washers.
Build a high wing training style plane with slower flight characteristics. Amazing project, but that little bird will need to move quickly and will be very twitchy to control!
heeeyyyyyy. brother not seen the vid yet (bcoz only one second passed). am making the same thing bought the gider and was searching for proper vid. from a month. and YtB recomends indyman.yeahhh
My other comment somehow disappeared after I added a link. I planned to build such a plane since before Corona. It might have been summer 2018. Now I have a model how to start and I just found an article about 1km long range wifi for the ESP32. I just won't link it, to prohibit my post from disappearing again. Do you think, that there might be a path using even smaller DC engines? Using two of them could save me from using the rudder. Technically I should start copying your motor-propeller test setup first ^^
There is a lot guys already made such foam glider conversion, why you not used their designs? - that could save you a lot of time. For example "Ground Control RC" made this conversion in few ways
There is a huge difference in satisfaction when doing a 'copy cat' or 'reinventing the wheel'. Sweat and tears are quickly forgotten when that wheel start to turn. In case of Nico, I am quite sure that his main objective is to learn and to 'get there' not just to make a quick mindless item. Nikodem, to co robisz jest wspaniale. Ja tez przez cale zycie robilem/uczylem sie i nawet teraz nie moge usias na laurach. Zycie nauczyle mnie ze stosunek ludzi do osobnikow jak Ty jest spolaryzowany: kochac albo nienawidzic. Dlatego czesto wspominam Norwida 'Popiol i Diament'
Thanks for this DISASTER video. This will helps me to do a right rc plane. First thing to be considered, the center of gravity then You can locate parts in the right place. The wings, why you bend the wings... this is a plane for hand throwing, first, you should test plane in the original shape... so you can fix those bends did from packing delivery.
Minds without any hero using a light weight receiver and as a provider going up on a catapult catch us thermals Course I don't have any wing warps and I'm an experienced contest glad a pilot... I've got the glider version from 3 years ago before it put in the the second slot for the elevator they fly much better than the ones that are sold on ebay now
information. at 5:14, the vert-stab is larger than needed; thus its Mass Could be reduced; by reducing its height, by say one inch.!!!! at 5:40, that is a WEIRD, OVER-large and heavy prop. the model seems under-powered; it is very probably heavy for its size. use the Lightest possible battery.! the prop is Too large for that motor (and for the model). an E prop Should be used; choose one whose diameter is equal to about 22 to 25 percent of the wingspan. MATCH the motor and prop specs. it would be nice if a LIGHTER esc could be used. googletranslate
at 4:23, WHY WHY WHY !!!!!! put the MASS of servos NEAR the cg.!!!!! control surface lengths should NOT BE TRUNCATED; as the rudder and elevator are.!!!!!!!!
Building a plane someone else designed would be so boring....I appreciate your persistence and confidence-it is not a mistake if you use it to improve your design....and it worked. Thank you for expressing your enthusiasm and determination, very refreshing!
I think the problem is torque roll. Angle the motor 2 to 3 degree right will solve the problem. 👍❤️
Exactly what I was about to say :)
How you don't have millions of subscribers I don't understand. You are one of the most entertaining makers, down to earth, clumsy at times, and always funny. It always makes my day when there is new video to be watched! You can practice flying with a mini-drone maybe. Or is it very different? Your video actually reminded me and my family spending days to get my DJI Spark down from the top of a 23m tree. To the patience of my family we finally succeeded, so now I can get it into even harder to reach places!
I watched his vacuum video two years ago on a different computer. Back then I didn't have a youtube account or might have not realized that he does stuff like that on a regular basis. Luckily, I saved the browser tab and just noticed my mistake :)
P.S.: I'm from Germany and lots of stuff somehow reminds me of home, although it is Poland, that's funny. I really like the oak trees he has. It's cool that he talks in English so I can understand it :)
I didn't see you mention this in the video, the motor produces torque which makes the plane turn in one direction, like what was happening earlier in your tests. If you orient the motor to point a few degrees to one corner (I believe it should be left/up judging on your tests) then it should help cancel out that roll and you would need less dihedral.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Jak na pierwszą budowę i naukę pilotażu to i tak super!
Nauka na małym modelu jest bardzo trudna, małe modele są bardzo "nerwowe" i podatne na każdy podmuch wiatru.
Warto podłączyć się do symulatora na początek z aparaturą, bo wyrabia to nawyki ratunkowe.
Śmigło ma za dużą średnicę w stosunku do rozpiętości skrzydeł, dlatego przy dodawaniu gazu obraca modelem, mniejsze śmigło, albo dwa na skrzydłach o przeciwnych kierunkach obrotu, żeby zniwelować momenty obrotowe.
Przez ten moment musiał być tak głęboki wznios skrzydeł, a tym samym zmniejszenie ich powierzchni nośnej.
Cięgna bowdena nie powinny być luźne, tylko ułożone w sztywnych rurkach jak filament w drukarce.
Dokładanie masy takiej jak serwa odbiorniki itp najlepiej jak najblizej środka cieżkości. Pod skrzydłami jest dużo zbędnej pianki ;)
Sprawdzaj czy model lata po rzucie z ręki bez silnika i wprowadzaj korekty trymerów na aparaturze, jeśli dobrze szybuje wtedy włączaj silnik.
Jeśli każde dotkniecie drążka sterującego powoduje, ze model wariuje, to albo skróć ramiona sterujące, albo na aparaturze ustaw sterowanie EXPO (logarytminczne), wtedy nie będzie taki podatny. Wychylenia sterówek wcale nie muszą być duże, przy większej prędkości podczas lotu, wystarczy minimalne odchylenie od środka, żeby wytworzyć wystarczającą siłę do skrętu.
Wow, ile tu jest przydatnych podpowiedzi i bardzo logicznego wyjaśnienia wielu problemów które napotkałem podczas budowy! Dzięki bardzo!!!
@@nikodembartnik super! Cieszę się ze mogłem pomóc. Wpadł mi jeszcze jeden pomysł. Zamiast przerabiać mocno cały model może dołożyć lotki? Dwie sterowane na jednym serwie .
Serwo nad skrzydłem, dwuramienny orczyk do lewej i prawej lotki. Przy tym silniku i śmigle pewnie trzeba dołożyć jakieś większe lotki, żeby była większa powierzchnia i w razie czego je skracać. Wycinanie tych co są zaznaczone w piance może niewiele dać. Wtedy możesz zupełnie zrezygnować ze wzniosu skrzydeł i skręcanie będzie znacznie łatwiejsze. Żeby wzmocnić model można okleić go taśmą pakową i wprasować ją żelazkiem (najlepiej starym, bo potrafi się klej z krawędzi taśmy poprzyklejać). Musisz zrobić próby, ale robi się to na minimalnej temperaturze, na folii ma się pojawić struktura granulek pianki. Są też specjalne folie, ale są mało rozciągliwe i ciężko będzie to zrobić na takim małym modelu. Taśma dodaje masy, ale bardzo wzmacnia, warto zastosować na wszystkich krawędziach natarcia i dookoła na elementach które mogą się odłamać (dziób, ogon itp). Jeśli ma być wszystko oklejone, to nakładaj ją jak dachówkę, żeby wiatr jej nie podrywał i stosuj lekką zakładkę, bo będzie się minimlanie kurczyć podczas grzania.
W razie czego pisz, co wiem to powiem ;)
PS. żeby nie łamać śmigieł, a jest to częste nawet przy poprawnym lądowaniu jak nie ma podwozia, to warto zastosować piastę z oringiem, w razie kolizji odgina się śmigło, albo w najgorszym wypadku pęka oring
*A lot of learning comes from improving mistakes.*
This was a really cool project. We also planned this project in the college lab, but pandemic...
This man is just so amazing the determination to improve his work is incredible
Thank you very much!
Just got all the exact components but off Ali express. Just recently got into planes after now been doing fpv with multi rotors for years and have 8 quads. And one plane so can’t wait to build this guy, everything the same parts as you
i built a similar plane for my first rc plane, used a bigger motor and no rudder, just yank and bank, worked wonderfully
Good project. You learn something new while having fun!
I have the same exact glider. Now I'm going to try a conversion with spare parts. I've had the thought, but wanted to see one done on the exact foam fuse, so awesome and thank you! Great job!
Nice project. I love your enthusiasm and admire your perseverance.
Great idea, really liked your perseverance. I've built a few flying contraptions from scratch and would like to point out a few things. When testing a RC plane, it is best to first do a bunch of glide/unpowered tests, that'd get you info on how the plane behaves on its own. It'll also let you know if your GC is right or not, if your plane tends to roll, if your control surfaces have enough authority. Adding power can induce new variables like torque and yawing due to that torque, attitude changes, etc. Also, bending the wings like you did will introduce added drag and will reduce the wing's lift capabilities, shopping the wings in half and adding bracing to add dihedral would have been a better solution. In a rudder and elevator only plane, always shoot for bigger rudder and elevators than on a aileron, rudder, and elevator plane. Also, your plane is a bit tail heavy, that's why it was so twitchy to controls input.
Huh,small world! I've just bought a foam plane,one just like this,and I've had the same idea of converting it into an rc plane! And this was one of the first videos that I've found regarding building a styrofoam rc plane!
Congratz on getting such a small plane to fly and be controllable.
There are smaller electronics available, such as 5 gram servos, which will add little to the price, any weight reduction is huge for the performance of small aircraft. As you noticed the servo placement in foam will weaken the airframe, you can use the weight of those servos to move the CG forward (long push rods are lighter than long servo wires !!!).
Very entertaining, well told story. Kudos for showing your failures along with your successes.
kilka miesięcy temu myślałem nad zrobieniem właśnie takiego samolotu i dołożeniem arduino nano i podłączyć reciver do portu pwn razem z serwami i esc, i spróbowac zrobić autopilota(automatyczne utrzymanie wysokości). Myślę ze to to fajny pomysł na odcinek. Robisz zajebiste filmiki pozdro z Torunia.
This was so helpful!! Thank you for making it so simple.
Great job! I just crashed a same foam plane with the bigger motor because of too much torque. 114grams is impressive.
Nice job on the planes. Also that I you for making the dermal cnc machine, it gave me something todo over the summer.
Nikodem is back 😁😁
I've got this years lidl mini led glider and it seems to be the same other than the canopy this will be useful
Hey Nik! This is so cool! Best regards from Ukraine!
Good idea ! I have think to build the same from this low cost airplains. The contruction is on the way good, but the Problem is the draw torgue of the electric motor.
I have been searching for this tutorial for ages! You explain really well, but one question: What battery did you use?
It was a tiny 2s lipo
@@nikodembartnikwhy not 3s, I got a 2 set of 3s 1000mah for it
Yeah
gratulacje świetny film , angielski perfectoo :D
i also started this project some time ago, got steady flight. will try to add some controls later
WELL DONE! YOU TRIED YOUR BEST
Please make more planes like this
Gr8 demo 🎉🎉🎉 learned a lot
To retrieve objects stuck in trees, a weight attached to a light string allows you to throw it and shake the branch its stuck in.
Here is an example video by a professional tree climber using a throw weight and line. You can use any light string and anything for a weight, ie kite string and some washers.
Wow this is such a cool project!
We need a new video like this, the foam plane that you used has been updated to replace the black foam to plastic batteries and light
This looks really cool!
When you said Its a guitar 🤣🤣🤣 i lost it
Build a high wing training style plane with slower flight characteristics. Amazing project, but that little bird will need to move quickly and will be very twitchy to control!
Impressive
Nice
your backyard seems peaceful af
You gave details of all the parts except the lipo, what voltage/mah/cells is it please and it's physical size/weight?
How expensive it was? Please i need answer🙂
Świetny kanał a film bardzo interesujący bo hobby związane z lotnictwem rc to coś pięknego. Serdeczne pozdrowionka i oczywiście subskrypcja poleciała
Looks and works really good
!
genius!
Would it help if u make the plane side heavy such that it balances out the torque from the motor ??
heeeyyyyyy. brother not seen the vid yet (bcoz only one second passed). am making the same thing bought the gider and was searching for proper vid. from a month. and YtB recomends indyman.yeahhh
How did you get into electric ⚡️ did you went to school for it or just learn by self 🧐
Can you recommend a small motor with super capacitor that can be attached above the fuselage and behind the cockpit?
POLSKA GORA!!!
8:40 mądry jesteś nie powiem
Where to buy the battery?
kup se większa rzutke i dodaj do niej serwa na skrzydłach
Oh yes that is cool
Way to stick with it!
How many grams was the battery
My other comment somehow disappeared after I added a link. I planned to build such a plane since before Corona. It might have been summer 2018. Now I have a model how to start and I just found an article about 1km long range wifi for the ESP32. I just won't link it, to prohibit my post from disappearing again.
Do you think, that there might be a path using even smaller DC engines? Using two of them could save me from using the rudder. Technically I should start copying your motor-propeller test setup first ^^
What is the battery used in this project?
It's a 2s lipo battery
There is a lot guys already made such foam glider conversion, why you not used their designs? - that could save you a lot of time. For example "Ground Control RC" made this conversion in few ways
There is a huge difference in satisfaction when doing a 'copy cat' or 'reinventing the wheel'. Sweat and tears are quickly forgotten when that wheel start to turn. In case of Nico, I am quite sure that his main objective is to learn and to 'get there' not just to make a quick mindless item. Nikodem, to co robisz jest wspaniale. Ja tez przez cale zycie robilem/uczylem sie i nawet teraz nie moge usias na laurach. Zycie nauczyle mnie ze stosunek ludzi do osobnikow jak Ty jest spolaryzowany: kochac albo nienawidzic. Dlatego czesto wspominam Norwida 'Popiol i Diament'
100th comment🎉
ayo didn't even notice u were polish until u got that plane stuck in the tree
Spoko 👍
this has already been done so many times, but hey if you enjoyed it why not try doing for real
Thanks for this DISASTER video. This will helps me to do a right rc plane. First thing to be considered, the center of gravity then You can locate parts in the right place. The wings, why you bend the wings... this is a plane for hand throwing, first, you should test plane in the original shape... so you can fix those bends did from packing delivery.
it would fly way more stable without the rounded wings
Polska Poland?
Właśnie miałem to robić z tego piankowego samolotu taki szajolocik
This area lowkey looks like the interstellar backround
Тобі треба було відреагулювати викос (кут встановлення) двигуна (вправо і в низ)
no mówiłem mówiłem ci xD
Podziwiam ❤️
Was that an electric lawnmower
Yes, that was my brothers mower. Now I want to build my own :)
@@nikodembartnik yea seems cool thanks for the idea i’m driving in my car right now to go get some foam board
Hi Nikodem, I just emailed you, I look forward to hearing back from you. Andy.
I feel the Motor is too powerful and heavy for this plane.
Sproboj moze z zyroskopem ktory by ulatwil sterowanie
too much weight
I am trying to make the same ....
I have a 1400 kc motor anyone know how I should make mine
Here is my last version on wheels: th-cam.com/video/aPatj4wCsMk/w-d-xo.html
Płynny masz angielski, gdyby nie to mówiłem ci bym nie ogarnął że rodak XDDD
Tail heavy!
Hi
polska górą
Found glider for $3 aud at Kmart aUstralia
you need a flight controller !
polska gurom
Minds without any hero using a light weight receiver and as a provider going up on a catapult catch us thermals Course I don't have any wing warps and I'm an experienced contest glad a pilot... I've got the glider version from 3 years ago before it put in the the second slot for the elevator they fly much better than the ones that are sold on ebay now
Terrible, I thought I often failed at things but this is also not a super success.
Friendly and Healthy greetings from the Netherlands.
Rob
information. at 5:14, the vert-stab is larger than needed; thus its Mass Could be reduced; by reducing its height, by say one inch.!!!! at 5:40, that is a WEIRD, OVER-large and heavy prop. the model seems under-powered; it is very probably heavy for its size. use the Lightest possible battery.! the prop is Too large for that motor (and for the model). an E prop Should be used; choose one whose diameter is equal to about 22 to 25 percent of the wingspan. MATCH the motor and prop specs. it would be nice if a LIGHTER esc could be used. googletranslate
BECAUSE the prop is too big for the motor, the motor's responses to throttle increases are Not consistent.!!!!!
at 10:49, REALLY!!!!!!! a FLIMSY pushrod MUST be ADEQUATELY SUPPORTED.!!!!!! this pushrod is susceptible to a lot of flex, during 'push'.
Mały Solejuk behind the scene :) weź się za sterowce;)
To ześ zjebał :P A było lidla robić :P
mówiłem ci XDD
at 4:23, WHY WHY WHY !!!!!! put the MASS of servos NEAR the cg.!!!!! control surface lengths should NOT BE TRUNCATED; as the rudder and elevator are.!!!!!!!!
FYI, you're pretty obnoxious.
DON'T CUT THE FUSELAGE IN HALF....when mounting a servo.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruh just give us tutorial you didn't show that how u made it
w jakim celu skoro jesteś polakiem prowadzisz kanał po angielsku przecież można włączyć napisy po angielsku
Żeby mieć dużo większy zasięg? Pomyśl i naucz się angielskiego.