Agree for the Most part, but there is Wallace and many others that work hard giving back to what made them. Respect!! JR no doubt is de man. More than others because where he came from and had to prove himself more then his dad who came from nothing. I get it but still people are still too hard are those that had a helping hand. Really they are haters. Congratulations on all your success Dale Jr. I’m telling you from someone who failed that test.
When racing was racing....love these stories. Just like when Ernie Elliot built that engine for Bill Elliot at Talladega, and he blew them away. The next year was the first year for restructor plates.
Come on now, that engine was great, but restrictor plates came about due to Bobby's excursion into the stands through the catch fences at 210 mph that same race.
Never was a Dale Jr fan or on the opposite side of things a hater, but I can say this, his appreciation of the history of the sport makes me respect him beyond belief. There are a handful of people that want to keep the history of our sport, and motorsports in general, alive, and Dale Jr is among them. In this era, the likes of Tony Stewart and Ray Evernham come to mind, and it’s not secret, nor no surprise, that those three are close friends.
Jr. has a tremendous passion for raising history and a hunger to bring it to light so people that never knew the innovators and pioneers of the sport. He also has a podcast that goes around the country searching and documenting old racetracks and its history.
This is literally racing history. Thanks Jr and Dirty Mo for keeping it alive and out to the fans. 👍👍🏁 And Buddy Baker was the kindest most generous (with his time) driver I was ever fortunate enough to meet. The photos are a fixture in our house.
Drivers ,crew chief's and people that work on cup teams of today are the best and smartest that you can find but very few have the character the old timers have, I love listening them.
I wonder what legendary car they will be talking about 44 years from now..... oh wait, not a god damn one of those piles of bolts.... Long gone are the great days of racing.... at this point, the teams should show up at the track and draw for a car...
Man I’ve been saying for twenty years now if they at least would do throwback bodies for a race or two some older kodgers like me would start watching again. I was done with them by the time the car of tomorrow came out
@skeezix8156 I think it'd be awesome to do throwback bodies in the All-Star race. The Chevy's could run Monte Carlo Aerocoupes. The Ford's could run '87 Thunderbird bodies and Toyota could run an '87 Camry body LMAO!!
mr wilson has so much knowledge and experience with nascar that his book is still relevant to this day and very hard to find because everybody wants a piece of knowledge.
I’m a old nascar fan from the 70s til 2001 this interview is classic nascar it’s all stories now. what we have today I don’t watch, not the same not even close
I remember those races and it seemed to me that Buddy Baker had a lot more engine than anybody else too. He could run anybody down. Greezzed lightnin'- Waddell built some great motors!
Great Interview 🎉 You guys got me so curious about the Grey Ghost that I went back and watched the 1980 Daytona not knowing how it was going to end was nice. The '98 race is my favorite. Thanks for the entertainment ‼️
Nascar needs to run a year and let teams build cars like they were built in the past. Bring back the great crew chiefs and banana shaped cars before nascar dies.
@@danielsummey4144No one is winning 20 damn races, there’s more than one good team. The OP is right, they need to go back to letting teams building their own cars. These cookie cutter cars suck.
@danielsummey4144 In the interview he stated the fans were getting into the rundown. Cars of different speeds made real excitement unlike cookie cutter artificial pack racing
@@tntgators SECONDED. Sportscar racing literally made its legacy off of different cars using drastically different tools to chase the same goal, occasionally getting similar results. There is nothing cooler in motorsports than seeing two cars making their lap time in dramatically different ways constantly trip over each other as one loses or gains an advantage in a different part of the course or at a different point in the race.
Thanks for keeping up modern-day NASCAR but thank you very very very much for letting people know about old school NASCAR that's what you have to do is study the past thanks again
i love this car frankly ! You know what? This podcast really motivated me to create this car with a Racing Champions. I really want to do it. Thanks, Junior, you motivated me to do this new custom.
This was back when NASCAR was innovative and exciting out working the competition was the name of the game who could figure it the quickest dang I miss that
JR when are you and Kelly going to go run NASCAR so we can have people like this back in the sport instead of running IROC Trans am cars with BU cameras cup holders on board navigation. NASCAR has told so many old fans the history don't matter cars should all be the same they should race all tracks like Daytona and Talladega in a pack. I miss watching races but I do enjoy these type interviews thanks for showing the respect these Men deserve.
Now if Oldsmobile would of produced their W-43 engine they put together in 1969 to 1970 in the research department. They cancelled it because of insurance industry, then the gas crises was the final death of it. They should of made it anyway, in numbers for the boating industry and the motorhome/RV industry. Something strong and powerful that wasn't diesel.
Buddy Baker was, is and ALWAYS will be one of the Absolute Kings of Speed. If Waddell made a Stockcar that would run 240mph around a Superspeedway, Buddy would be the one you would want driving it. One of my top 3 favorite driv
baker said about turning the 180 at dega in the lead was like jumping out of a plane with a parachute on and pulling the ripcord and looking up and nothing but pots and pans came out
Boy howdy talk about a history lesson. Can't beat in person recounting. Think about that, 34 years later and the man still remembers who was behind his car.
Jr does a great job with the history of NASCAR not to mention his personal experience both on and off the track. Wouldn't it be awesome to have him rebroadcast all the old races so the younger generation can see what NASCAR racing really was like -vs- today's scripted garbage?
These videos would be exponetially better if they could cut to actual video footage while talking. I know they would have to pay to show the clips but just imaging how awesome it would be.
It's been a long time but to me Buddy was faster in 1979....he was probably more ahead with that Oldsmobile than everybody else at that time. The car never came up to speed, if it had he would've drove away from them.
wasn't watching NASCAR back then. What, exactly, was the gray ghost? I get that it was an oldsmobile, but what year and model was it? I've tried looking it up but get scant information about it. Thank you.
One thing not mentioned is the use of a Oldsmobile 350 diesel D or DX Diesel block and converted it for racing at 358CI and Oldsmobile 350 nascar blocks cmaking 1.8 + horsepower per cubes information about this can be found in Oldsmobile in action magazine volumes 1. 2 .and 3 best racing footage is 1979 bush clash daytona 1980 Winston 1980 daytona and buddy baker aj foyt and cale Yarbrough are some of the people who have race 🏁 these Oldsmobile rocket V8 motors not chevy of any kind 😳
This was Nascar's heyday, it's been downhill ever since. Stockcar racing has been ruined by Nascar. It will never be the same, with all their cookie cutter cars.
Sadly, you won't never, ever see another NASCAR RACE CAR with the thought, and engineering and heart put into it like the cars of Waddell, Smokey. Junior, Ray Fox, or Nichole engineering put into their machines. NASCAR has took the souls out of the cars. Today, they are carbon copy's. All the same. They aren't even like a IROC car... They are cold soul less parts and pieces. I cannot tell you how much I hate NASCAR for what they've done to this once beloved sport.
Now you can't even touch the cars... The genius and improvisation of Nascar is dead. Its just dumbed down one make racing now. im glad everybody is ecstatic over the last finish but it was not a good race despite the close finish. Nascar is losing the little things that made it special
NASCAR is now so boring now! Cars all alike, too many rules, no competition, stupid stages, and a caution at ten-laps-remaining to bunch the field and get the preferred teams back into contention. I live 5 minutes from Charlotte Motor Speedway and NASCAR is not worth the drive.
Bernie Elliot was way fast, Waddell didn't stand chance, other Ford teams got his cyl heads pronounced illegal, they couldn't figure it out nor even keep up with hid draft
Because the new GM Metric chassis was not understood and the body has aerodynamics of a turd, Nascar allowed the team to continue racing a 3 year old body style.. The Chevelle had a flat nose and the Oldsmobile had a more aerodynamic front end and so everyone that wanted to win switched to Oldsmobile. The 83 Monte Carlo SS was only good as a short track car but it was competitive against the 80 Ford Thunderbird which was a shoe box. The Thunderbird made the older body style obsolete. The Pontiac 82 Grand Prix was a better body style than the Monte Carlo..it was just using what ever was available. The rear end was cambered. You had to grease the drive flange because the axle was moving around in the housing. When Nascar figured it out they outlawed it. I thought Wadell Wilson was the engine builder not the Crew Chief..
Over a lap? No. The 80's aero wars created far superior aero platforms to the 442 Cutlass Supreme, and by gawd, does it show in the record books. But races aren't usually a lap long, and the holder of the fastest Daytona 500 average speed in history (by a whole 1.4 miles an hour over that Melling #9 T-Bird) was......the Gray Ghost. I bleed Ford blue, but real has GOT to recognize real.
I thought this interview was about how Waddell made the gray ghost fast....NOT Jr. interrupting Waddell to tell about his car and how they did it....WTH!!
I can't believe this man's nearly 90 years old. Still razor sharp and looks at least 10 years younger.
Dale Jr, you are the person keeping NASCAR alive. Facts!
Agree for the Most part, but there is Wallace and many others that work hard giving back to what made them. Respect!! JR no doubt is de man. More than others because where he came from and had to prove himself more then his dad who came from nothing. I get it but still people are still too hard are those that had a helping hand. Really they are haters. Congratulations on all your success Dale Jr. I’m telling you from someone who failed that test.
The grey ghost now that's a legend
Buddy Baker is my all time favorite driver just loved the guy. Super friendly and funny as hell. R.I.P. Buddy you are sorely missed.
One of the best interviews ever. The Grey Ghost lives!
One of your best interviews yet junior. Back when nascar had creativity and ingenuity.
before sponsors, money, took over what was a really cool, neat, sport.
When racing was racing....love these stories. Just like when Ernie Elliot built that engine for Bill Elliot at Talladega, and he blew them away. The next year was the first year for restructor plates.
Come on now, that engine was great, but restrictor plates came about due to Bobby's excursion into the stands through the catch fences at 210 mph that same race.
Thats when the debuted the Elliot shrinking heads . It was a genious design !
Never was a Dale Jr fan or on the opposite side of things a hater, but I can say this, his appreciation of the history of the sport makes me respect him beyond belief. There are a handful of people that want to keep the history of our sport, and motorsports in general, alive, and Dale Jr is among them. In this era, the likes of Tony Stewart and Ray Evernham come to mind, and it’s not secret, nor no surprise, that those three are close friends.
Jr. has a tremendous passion for raising history and a hunger to bring it to light so people that never knew the innovators and pioneers of the sport. He also has a podcast that goes around the country searching and documenting old racetracks and its history.
See those were the days at my grandparents on Sunday laying in the back of the station wagon listening to the race on the radio ❤❤❤❤❤
We sat on the bank of the river fishing listening to the races
Loved the grey ghost , all you have to do is hear those two words and know exactly what what era and car it was .... great interview
This is literally racing history. Thanks Jr and Dirty Mo for keeping it alive and out to the fans. 👍👍🏁
And Buddy Baker was the kindest most generous (with his time) driver I was ever fortunate enough to meet. The photos are a fixture in our house.
It would have been nice to have a picture or two of the car while you were talking about it.
Yes, I kept waiting to see it. To no avail.
This should be re cut with photos, PLEASE.
Look closely, it’s on the table near Jr
Mr. Buddy Baker behind the wheel
Add Gary Nelson to the list of TRUE motor sport legends. What a privilege to listen to legends of the sport.
Never knew cowls played such a part in a teams testing and strategy
Drivers ,crew chief's and people that work on cup teams of today are the best and smartest that you can find but very few have the character the old timers have, I love listening them.
1980, yes sir, the Grey Ghost was a rocket ship
I wonder what legendary car they will be talking about 44 years from now..... oh wait, not a god damn one of those piles of bolts.... Long gone are the great days of racing.... at this point, the teams should show up at the track and draw for a car...
France family needs to step aside. They have taken the race out of the race.
Man I’ve been saying for twenty years now if they at least would do throwback bodies for a race or two some older kodgers like me would start watching again. I was done with them by the time the car of tomorrow came out
@skeezix8156 I think it'd be awesome to do throwback bodies in the All-Star race. The Chevy's could run Monte Carlo Aerocoupes. The Ford's could run '87 Thunderbird bodies and Toyota could run an '87 Camry body LMAO!!
@@Caterpillarjon that’s my favorite era too. Mid to late 80’s. Would be funny to put an old Camry body style out there, I’d never thought of that.
There's a certain political ideology that has rulers that enforce everything must be the same for the masses. The exact opposite of freedom.
mr wilson has so much knowledge and experience with nascar that his book is still relevant to this day and very hard to find because everybody wants a piece of knowledge.
I’m a old nascar fan from the 70s til 2001 this interview is classic nascar it’s all stories now. what we have today I don’t watch, not the same not even close
Agreed. Beautiful paint job.
I remember those races and it seemed to me that Buddy Baker had a lot more engine than anybody else too. He could run anybody down. Greezzed lightnin'- Waddell built some great motors!
Great Interview 🎉
You guys got me so curious about the Grey Ghost that I went back and watched the 1980 Daytona not knowing how it was going to end was nice.
The '98 race is my favorite.
Thanks for the entertainment ‼️
Holman Moody had some fantastic employees.
Beautiful car that Oldsmobile was - Awesome set up ! Very impressive .
Love these stories!!
Nascar needs to run a year and let teams build cars like they were built in the past.
Bring back the great crew chiefs and banana shaped cars before nascar dies.
Yeah, then you’d have two cars on the lead lap and people winning 20+ races. Is that what you want?
@@danielsummey4144No one is winning 20 damn races, there’s more than one good team. The OP is right, they need to go back to letting teams building their own cars. These cookie cutter cars suck.
@danielsummey4144 In the interview he stated the fans were getting into the rundown. Cars of different speeds made real excitement unlike cookie cutter artificial pack racing
@@tntgators SECONDED. Sportscar racing literally made its legacy off of different cars using drastically different tools to chase the same goal, occasionally getting similar results. There is nothing cooler in motorsports than seeing two cars making their lap time in dramatically different ways constantly trip over each other as one loses or gains an advantage in a different part of the course or at a different point in the race.
Naw we'd rather have cookie cutter bs with bland crew chiefs and drivers.
Thanks for keeping up modern-day NASCAR but thank you very very very much for letting people know about old school NASCAR that's what you have to do is study the past thanks again
Very cool video to listen to ! Thanks fellas !
i love this car frankly !
You know what? This podcast really motivated me to create this car with a Racing Champions. I really want to do it. Thanks, Junior, you motivated me to do this new custom.
I could’ve listened to Wardell forever
So cool listening to this stuff!!
Haven't watched Nascar in years. Too woke for me. This is the Nascar I used to love.
This was back when NASCAR was innovative and exciting out working the competition was the name of the game who could figure it the quickest dang I miss that
JR when are you and Kelly going to go run NASCAR so we can have people like this back in the sport instead of running IROC Trans am cars with BU cameras cup holders on board navigation. NASCAR has told so many old fans the history don't matter cars should all be the same they should race all tracks like Daytona and Talladega in a pack. I miss watching races but I do enjoy these type interviews thanks for showing the respect these Men deserve.
Hell yeh you know the tech guys were all over that car at night, I was hoping this story would surface one day, thanks Jr love ya brother ✌️🇺🇸
Just started watching that 1980 Daytona heard they had 80 cars try and qualify for that race OMG.
Post pics and videos of y’all are talking about please. It would add even more quality to the show. Bad ass race car though!
Now if Oldsmobile would of produced their W-43 engine they put together in 1969 to 1970 in the research department. They cancelled it because of insurance industry, then the gas crises was the final death of it. They should of made it anyway, in numbers for the boating industry and the motorhome/RV industry. Something strong and powerful that wasn't diesel.
Buddy Baker was, is and ALWAYS will be one of the Absolute Kings of Speed. If Waddell made a Stockcar that would run 240mph around a Superspeedway, Buddy would be the one you would want driving it. One of my top 3 favorite driv
Reasons why today's cars are so different!! No cheating fun anymore
baker said about turning the 180 at dega in the lead was like jumping out of a plane with a parachute on and pulling the ripcord and looking up and nothing but pots and pans came out
Nascar is like monster jam, everything's the same, no builders, no nothing.
Those were the days !!!!!!!!!
But body line templates make thing more fairer!!!😭
Boy howdy talk about a history lesson. Can't beat in person recounting.
Think about that, 34 years later and the man still remembers who was behind his car.
Jr does a great job with the history of NASCAR not to mention his personal experience both on and off the track. Wouldn't it be awesome to have him rebroadcast all the old races so the younger generation can see what NASCAR racing really was like -vs- today's scripted garbage?
These videos would be exponetially better if they could cut to actual video footage while talking. I know they would have to pay to show the clips but just imaging how awesome it would be.
Look at some of the all motor Import racers, and their cows :) LOL!
It's been a long time but to me Buddy was faster in 1979....he was probably more ahead with that Oldsmobile than everybody else at that time. The car never came up to speed, if it had he would've drove away from them.
My car is grey and I call it the Grey Ghost
"cow pressure" LOL
do not talk about how great the gray ghost was and not show us a photo(s)
Lenny Pond won at Talledega in 1978 in the same car # 54, that became the Grey Ghost.
What happened to the other set and your co host?
More old guys before they pass please
New studio? I like it. Where is Mike?
Some pictures would've been nice!
wasn't watching NASCAR back then. What, exactly, was the gray ghost? I get that it was an oldsmobile, but what year and model was it? I've tried looking it up but get scant information about it.
Thank you.
1976/1977 Cutlass 442
One thing not mentioned is the use of a Oldsmobile 350 diesel D or DX Diesel block and converted it for racing at 358CI and Oldsmobile 350 nascar blocks cmaking 1.8 + horsepower per cubes information about this can be found in Oldsmobile in action magazine volumes 1. 2 .and 3 best racing footage is 1979 bush clash daytona 1980 Winston 1980 daytona and buddy baker aj foyt and cale Yarbrough are some of the people who have race 🏁 these Oldsmobile rocket V8 motors not chevy of any kind 😳
Wait? I JR coming around to Ford?
Was for Blaney winning Championship, Loved the Ford Grey Ghost
I have ADD really bad, did they ever show a picture of this car? If they did could somebody tell me about where.
This was Nascar's heyday, it's been downhill ever since. Stockcar racing has been ruined by Nascar. It will never be the same, with all their cookie cutter cars.
I remember the car.
Junior, you never heard of Bill Elliott's 85 and 87 T Birds? They were the fastest of all time.
Those were the day's
🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
When did GM start to corporatize the racing programs across the board? Olds were running Olds?? Pontiac running Pontiacs???
1978
@@jasonhumphry5836Thanks!!!
NASCAR used to be true Automotive craftsmanship, Now it's just cookie cutter garbage.
Didn’t stopping for the rain delay cause cylinder heads to crack ?
Sadly, you won't never, ever see another NASCAR RACE CAR with the thought, and engineering and heart put into it like the cars of Waddell, Smokey. Junior, Ray Fox, or Nichole engineering put into their machines. NASCAR has took the souls out of the cars. Today, they are carbon copy's. All the same. They aren't even like a IROC car... They are cold soul less parts and pieces. I cannot tell you how much I hate NASCAR for what they've done to this once beloved sport.
😎🔥
The only car we will talk about from today is Amelia
Now you can't even touch the cars... The genius and improvisation of Nascar is dead. Its just dumbed down one make racing now. im glad everybody is ecstatic over the last finish but it was not a good race despite the close finish. Nascar is losing the little things that made it special
NASCAR is now so boring now! Cars all alike, too many rules, no competition, stupid stages, and a caution at ten-laps-remaining to bunch the field and get the preferred teams back into contention. I live 5 minutes from Charlotte Motor Speedway and NASCAR is not worth the drive.
Nothing will ever match that #9 of Bill Elliott
A bygone era, when Sex was safe, and racin' was dangerous!!
Bernie Elliot was way fast, Waddell didn't stand chance, other Ford teams got his cyl heads pronounced illegal, they couldn't figure it out nor even keep up with hid draft
These cookie cutter cars make fabricators and skilled Craftsmen obsolete
How can you talk about a car for 15 mins and not show any pics 😂
Because the new GM Metric chassis was not understood and the body has aerodynamics of a turd, Nascar allowed the team to continue racing a 3 year old body style.. The Chevelle had a flat nose and the Oldsmobile had a more aerodynamic front end and so everyone that wanted to win switched to Oldsmobile.
The 83 Monte Carlo SS was only good as a short track car but it was competitive against the 80 Ford Thunderbird which was a shoe box. The Thunderbird made the older body style obsolete. The Pontiac 82 Grand Prix was a better body style than the Monte Carlo..it was just using what ever was available.
The rear end was cambered. You had to grease the drive flange because the axle was moving around in the housing.
When Nascar figured it out they outlawed it. I thought Wadell Wilson was the engine builder not the Crew Chief..
Is it cow or cowl?!
An internal combustion engine is nothing more than an air pump with fuel injected and compressed..
It was NOT faster than Bill Elliotts 1985 Thunderbird. Let’s be honest.
Considering it ran in 1980 it would not be the same.
😂😂@@Ever443
Over a lap? No. The 80's aero wars created far superior aero platforms to the 442 Cutlass Supreme, and by gawd, does it show in the record books.
But races aren't usually a lap long, and the holder of the fastest Daytona 500 average speed in history (by a whole 1.4 miles an hour over that Melling #9 T-Bird) was......the Gray Ghost. I bleed Ford blue, but real has GOT to recognize real.
Apples and oranges.
Bill Elliott is inbred, so there's that
ELVIS
NASCAR ruined NASCAR..
I thought this interview was about how Waddell made the gray ghost fast....NOT Jr. interrupting Waddell to tell about his car and how they did it....WTH!!
He told how he made the race car fast. $10,000 in body work.
Jr needs to keep his mouth shut for five minutes and let waddle talk
That's why I don't watch nascar anymore