Paul Upham has always been a respectful and knowledgeable person who’s honesty is not personal, it’s practical and constructive….. unlike the comments section here.
Well said Paul, the critics come out of the woodwork like clockwork. Tim has a long way to go yet. We all remember Kostyas loss to Phillips in 97. We all remember the Kostya that came back and unified the 140 division. The future looks bright.
Pacman, Judah etc all got sparked and came back strong. If you listen to these critics you will go nowhere with them. Tim and his team will be back. The critics will eat s..t!
The last 6-12 months has been a demonstration of how to F@ck a fighter's carrier from management to the corner crew .Tim's done a lot of it to himself but that's why you have a team around you to protect you from yourself. Much respect for Paul but when Tim hit some real pressure and adversity he had nothing no ring craft just keep walking into that left hook I love Tim but him his team have all been well and truly exposed BIG time so things need to change and I do believe Tim can do it , hope Nikita is taking notice as well .
Great interview. Goes to show how watching previous fights of your upcoming opponent is vital in winning. Hope Tim takes this into consideration in the future. Tim said he didn't watch any previous fights of Bakhram, huge mistake.
Fight should have been stopped at the end of the second round, he didn't even know where the fuck he was. Firstly, that's on the ref, but secondly and much worse was his corner not protecting him and stopping it. That's the sign of a team that is out of their depth.
@davidgray8654 If his corner had stopped the Fundora fight because of the cut, I'm pretty sure it would have been ruled a draw or no contest. But instead they kept sending him out each round when he could hardly see, plus they didn't seem to have any idea how to stop the bleeding. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even know about the medical stoppage rule.
💯! Tim would greatly benefit from being around & learning from his father Kostya. Do some training camps in Russia, as Kostya said in interview, to get his boys to come to his gym there. There’s a difference when you’re living in a harder, tougher country. Makes you more hungry for sure! Great advice & interview with Paul Upham 👌🏾
Nikita also get hit quite a lot and has been dropped a couple of times. Tim waited till his hardest fight to take on Nikita's no prisoners approach. You can get away with it early in your career against weaker opponents. Why he chose a title fight to take such a risky approach is on him , he's the one in the centre of the ring.
Yes they need to change. Big mistakes in fundora fight and Igor failed to stop the fight in time in this fight. Nikita had to throw in the towel. Igor had no bloody idea. Upham talks about Tim being a novice and that’s very true to a certain extent but the real novices are the promoters and trainers who surround him. They have no bloody idea.
Absolutely spot on..but the experts will of course know more, ...needs more time with kyosta and Igor needs to step up as head trainer and act like one on match day
After Tim's fight with Fundora i saw Tim in Thailand training with his pops, personally i didn't like it at the time , because i thought , why change something that's not broken, well its strange because he just fought his worst fight i have seen from him, but i think he does need changes to his team.....because after the 1st Knock down he should have jabbed his ass off, clinched and hung on to Bukhram and moved his head..didn't do any of that
The was a few factors which lead to the loss. 1. Overconfidence which meant Tim thought he could just walk this guy down and bully him leaving him wide open for the next couple of factors. 2. His opponent was a much harder hitter than Tim thought, and 3. He'd worked on specific combinations to counter Tim and 4. I do think having his dad there was a massive distraction for Tim.
Tim needs credit for his willingness to fight anyone. He looked to be rushing things to make a statement infont of his Dad . Kostya never moved his head much but he always kept his hands high.
It goes back to the Fundora fight, his corner should have been smarter and stopped it, they didn't do him any favours leaving him out there unable to see. That led to this situation
Tim had 30 odd fights amateur vs someone Who had over 100 From the old eastern block Chechna Yep Tim needs a new trainer Don’t get Hit Tim doesn’t have the the Right hand & Skills that Kostya Had
@@KennoKarateChop I’m too old to talk smack Father 270 amateur fights, 259 wins 1991 World Amateur Champion As a Pro ruled the Light Welter division 10 years, undisputed etc What’s the saying? “Don’t argue with an idiot, cause they will beat you down with experience” Go back to Karate
Johnny Lewis was always telling kostya to keep his hands up. It wasn't until after the loss to Vince Phillips that Kostya began to work on his defence but he was by no means a defensive fighter. Tim had the wrong game plan. Look at his fight against Mendoza and that is how he should have fought. He wasn't patient or cautious, however I do feel he may have been fighting on instinct after the knock down. Upham makes a lot of contradictions.
This guy is full of it. Tim was completely unprepared for this fight, and unprepared for anyone with a left hook. That’s on the team. Once he got hurt he never moved, jabbed, clinched, nothing. That is on his trainer. The fight absolutely should have been stopped after the second round. Tim was badly hurt and couldn’t even focus his eyes. That’s on his team. Tim got exposed and most of it is on his team. Of course he has to take responsibility as well. He took this guy lightly. So did his team
@@tc8327 I said elite. I love Kostya don’t get me wrong. But he got dropped quite a few times and also stopped by a journeyman. It is what it is. Tim needs a defensively minded trainer.
Yeah I'd minimise the time the two of them spent together. Tim can and should continue to work on his defence, maybe even ask Tony Harrison for help. But the biggest problem was Tim's overly aggressive approach to the fight.
Agree with most of what Paul said, but do you really have to point out you cant just walk through opponents at the elite level? I would have thought thats a basic understanding. Need to hear the corner talking in between rounds.
Don't presume that you're so much better than someone else that all you have to do to win is not fall asleep in the fight from boredom... tim Tszyu is good enough and can be good enough... if bringing the A game...
Forget it !! It's over for Tim's dream of becoming world champion in this division !! Look at Crawford or Spence and Bakram - - They are at a different level and Tim will never reach that superior boxing class !! 😮
Captain Obvious chucking in his 2 bobs worth, there are two common denominators in Tim's recent losses both opponents had a height & reach advantage. Pretty hard to win against the bigger guy fighting the outside. Fundora height 183 cm reach Bakhram Murtazaliev height 183cm reach 73 cm Tszyu 174 reach 70 cm.
This blokes full of shit. Tim's defence improved dramatically against Tony harrison and Brian mendoza. The bright lights and lure of big money fights in America went to his head and he overlooked bakhram
But he didn't say Tszyu's defence is bad. The most relevant point is Tim's approach/strategy was insane, he didn't take the same approach for this fight as he did for Harrison and Mendoza. Instead Tim came out super aggressive, he didn't bother to feel his opponent out. Did you even watch the fight?
This guy has no idea, I think listen to the interview with Jeff Fenech..... no need for domestic fights, work on defense, defense, defense, He's got loads of skills everywhere else... He's a world champ.... keep the focus, keep moving forward, never overlook anyone who is going to punch you in the head......maybe make some coach/ trainers changes, maybe his Dad changed Tim's mind set to prove something to him and lost focus, listen to the ones that have been in the ring and done it..... Just like Ted Cofie and Jeff Fenech say (both world champs that have been there in the ring)th-cam.com/video/LMei-mQPizc/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/rkHA8aaa86I/w-d-xo.html 👍
I thought of him as potential top 5 but tried warning people he’s good but not special, if that makes sense , You know your Danny Garcia types who are up there near the top but tend to lose to the elite guys .
The only thing he did wrong was underestimate his opponent, which meant he was waaaay too aggressive. If he'd fought this fight the sane way he did Harrison and Mendoza he probably wins.
@@Soul-Taker probably wins , based on what ? He fought a guy with higher punch output and more power , I think that’s the wrong match up for Tim , he doesn’t hold the advantage.
2 fights 2 losses Fundora fight mistakes from trainer not getting fight stopped due to that terrible head cut. Latest loss wrong game plan against a stronger puncher no plan B. How many more errors Tim's career is in tatters needs new management and training team without doubt.
Very poor management judgement, three recent examples, taking on Fundora after preparing for Thurman, two completely different fighters which would require two completely different preparation camps and strategy. The decision to continue with the Fundora fight when Tim could clearly not see with blood streaming down his face. The decision to fight Murtazaliev after preparing for Victor Ortiz, no study ..... different prep, I mean why don't they just throw him under a bus? Get a new team they obviously are only interested in making Tim fight for the money......really pisses me off.
It goes back to the Fundora fight, his corner should have been smarter and stopped it, they didn't do him any favours leaving him out there unable to see. That led to this situation
I agree , but I go one step more and say management f@cked up even putting him in the ring with fundora on 2 weeks notice yes Tim wanted to fight bit gun ho but he's a fighter but that's where management and his trainer are there to save the fighter from himself and that's not happening for Tim , back to back world title losses reflects very poorly on the whole team . Tim can make it back but not with this crew and it will be a long hard road , some fighters never get the opportunity ever again .
Paul Upham has always been a respectful and knowledgeable person who’s honesty is not personal, it’s practical and constructive….. unlike the comments section here.
100% agree
correct
Well said Paul, the critics come out of the woodwork like clockwork. Tim has a long way to go yet. We all remember Kostyas loss to Phillips in 97. We all remember the Kostya that came back and unified the 140 division.
The future looks bright.
Pacman, Judah etc all got sparked and came back strong. If you listen to these critics you will go nowhere with them. Tim and his team will be back. The critics will eat s..t!
Only one guy to blame, Tim, lost his head, literally
Yes, the man who loses his cool is always the one who also loses his head.
His Team is Finished. No respect even form rose after fight. Terrible team
The last 6-12 months has been a demonstration of how to F@ck a fighter's carrier from management to the corner crew .Tim's done a lot of it to himself but that's why you have a team around you to protect you from yourself. Much respect for Paul but when Tim hit some real pressure and adversity he had nothing no ring craft just keep walking into that left hook I love Tim but him his team have all been well and truly exposed BIG time so things need to change and I do believe Tim can do it , hope Nikita is taking notice as well .
1 massive point he makes, believe it or not Tim is still raw, having literally no amateur record of value
Tim "I didn't study Bakhram"
Bakhram "I studied Tim"
Great interview. Goes to show how watching previous fights of your upcoming opponent is vital in winning. Hope Tim takes this into consideration in the future. Tim said he didn't watch any previous fights of Bakhram, huge mistake.
For all you guys thinking this guy has know idea. He has been commentating boxing , one fc, and martial arts for years. Calm your farm.
What?
Fight should have been stopped at the end of the second round, he didn't even know where the fuck he was. Firstly, that's on the ref, but secondly and much worse was his corner not protecting him and stopping it. That's the sign of a team that is out of their depth.
Absolutely, look at the shocking decision from his corner in the Fundora fight
@davidgray8654 If his corner had stopped the Fundora fight because of the cut, I'm pretty sure it would have been ruled a draw or no contest. But instead they kept sending him out each round when he could hardly see, plus they didn't seem to have any idea how to stop the bleeding. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even know about the medical stoppage rule.
Bakhram v tim is best vs best, credit to both
Paul Upham has made the most sensible comments I have heard, don't change everything and everyone, just make improvements.
💯! Tim would greatly benefit from being around & learning from his father Kostya. Do some training camps in Russia, as Kostya said in interview, to get his boys to come to his gym there. There’s a difference when you’re living in a harder, tougher country. Makes you more hungry for sure! Great advice & interview with Paul Upham 👌🏾
"The margins were so slim". Oh come on, the fight was a demolition from the get go and his team are not up to the job.
You obviously don't understand boxing. If Tim was more defensively responsible he wins the fight.
Nikita also get hit quite a lot and has been dropped a couple of times. Tim waited till his hardest fight to take on Nikita's no prisoners approach. You can get away with it early in your career against weaker opponents. Why he chose a title fight to take such a risky approach is on him , he's the one in the centre of the ring.
There's a difference between fighting to literally feed your family and fighting because you want the bling,bling lifestyle as Tim seems to want.
Having kids can make a fighter soft, not a great analogy.
You think Johnny Lewis would have let that continue? Twice? Terrible corner
I'm 5 minutes in and agree with everything you're saying, BUT his corner makes shit decisions. PERIOD! Ta Ta
Yes they need to change. Big mistakes in fundora fight and Igor failed to stop the fight in time in this fight. Nikita had to throw in the towel. Igor had no bloody idea. Upham talks about Tim being a novice and that’s very true to a certain extent but the real novices are the promoters and trainers who surround him. They have no bloody idea.
Tims last two fights raise allot of questions regarding his team.
If he wants to return a new corner is definitely required.
I agree with everything this guy said.
Defense to offense, offense to Defense
Absolutely spot on..but the experts will of course know more, ...needs more time with kyosta and Igor needs to step up as head trainer and act like one on match day
After Tim's fight with Fundora i saw Tim in Thailand training with his pops, personally i didn't like it at the time , because i thought , why change something that's not broken, well its strange because he just fought his worst fight i have seen from him, but i think he does need changes to his team.....because after the 1st Knock down he should have jabbed his ass off, clinched and hung on to Bukhram and moved his head..didn't do any of that
The was a few factors which lead to the loss. 1. Overconfidence which meant Tim thought he could just walk this guy down and bully him leaving him wide open for the next couple of factors. 2. His opponent was a much harder hitter than Tim thought, and 3. He'd worked on specific combinations to counter Tim and 4. I do think having his dad there was a massive distraction for Tim.
Also after the 1st knockdown the fight was effectively over, Tim had lost his faculties.
Tim needs credit for his willingness to fight anyone. He looked to be rushing things to make a statement infont of his Dad .
Kostya never moved his head much but he always kept his hands high.
It goes back to the Fundora fight, his corner should have been smarter and stopped it, they didn't do him any favours leaving him out there unable to see.
That led to this situation
Absolutely
Tim had 30 odd fights amateur
vs someone Who had over 100 From the old eastern block
Chechna
Yep
Tim needs a new trainer
Don’t get Hit
Tim doesn’t have the the Right hand & Skills that Kostya Had
Talking smack bro way better fighter then his father just hasn't been able to unleash it yet.
@@KennoKarateChop I’m too old to talk smack
Father 270 amateur fights, 259 wins
1991 World Amateur Champion
As a Pro ruled the Light Welter division 10 years, undisputed etc
What’s the saying?
“Don’t argue with an idiot, cause they will beat you down with experience”
Go back to Karate
yeah tim needs david goggins
@@Adam-ql1xe Ahh Stop lying lol 🤥
Johnny Lewis was always telling kostya to keep his hands up. It wasn't until after the loss to Vince Phillips that Kostya began to work on his defence but he was by no means a defensive fighter. Tim had the wrong game plan. Look at his fight against Mendoza and that is how he should have fought. He wasn't patient or cautious, however I do feel he may have been fighting on instinct after the knock down. Upham makes a lot of contradictions.
Im an ozi and luv Tim …
But he tried to walk down a 154 betebiev….
He needs to be a smarter fighter and respect all opponents
This guy is full of it. Tim was completely unprepared for this fight, and unprepared for anyone with a left hook. That’s on the team. Once he got hurt he never moved, jabbed, clinched, nothing. That is on his trainer. The fight absolutely should have been stopped after the second round. Tim was badly hurt and couldn’t even focus his eyes. That’s on his team. Tim got exposed and most of it is on his team. Of course he has to take responsibility as well. He took this guy lightly. So did his team
Sounds like you're full of it. Watch the video again.
i see
Absolutely and don't forget Tim was lining up to fight Victor Ortiz....
@davidgray8654 Tim destroys Victor Ortiz, easy … Now, Virgil Ortiz I’m not so sure how Tim does there:)
Josh Kelly, Julian Williams or Radzhab Butaev vs tim , 2 of those guys ?
“I’m levels above”???
Paul Upham - the next Brad Pitt
Kostya was never a very elite defensive fighter though.
In the Amateur s
Kostya Had Great Defense
Wasn't a good defensive boxer, but unified the belts??
@@tc8327 I said elite. I love Kostya don’t get me wrong. But he got dropped quite a few times and also stopped by a journeyman. It is what it is. Tim needs a defensively minded trainer.
Yeah I'd minimise the time the two of them spent together. Tim can and should continue to work on his defence, maybe even ask Tony Harrison for help. But the biggest problem was Tim's overly aggressive approach to the fight.
Agree with most of what Paul said, but do you really have to point out you cant just walk through opponents at the elite level? I would have thought thats a basic understanding. Need to hear the corner talking in between rounds.
Jeff fenech and Robert Garcia said it best
His corner gave no advice, Kostya would have given him a talking to not pumping up his tyres
Don't presume that you're so much better than someone else that all you have to do to win is not fall asleep in the fight from boredom... tim Tszyu is good enough and can be good enough... if bringing the A game...
Zefara go ko by 40 yr old lara come on
Move to the US…hook up with Caleb Plant and Breadman to rebuild his career with improved defensive skills.
He has moved there or is just about too.
Forget it !! It's over for Tim's dream of becoming world champion in this division !! Look at Crawford or Spence and Bakram - - They are at a different level and Tim will never reach that superior boxing class !! 😮
Why such absolutist statements?
I hate to, but I think I agree with you
Tim needs to fight smarter
Captain Obvious chucking in his 2 bobs worth, there are two common denominators in Tim's recent losses both opponents had a height & reach advantage. Pretty hard to win against the bigger guy fighting the outside. Fundora height 183 cm reach Bakhram Murtazaliev height 183cm reach 73 cm Tszyu 174 reach 70 cm.
Tim was beaten before he got in the ring, anyone could see that.... Tim's hangers on should be banned from Boxing
How was he beaten before he got in the ring?
I don’t trust this man. He’s looking after his best interests
Tim has to use more; of his Brain's .
👍
Zerafa is a seagull
Zerafa beats Tim on the way to a fight lol
I’m still trying to work out who the pretty boy is.. 🤷🏽♂️
This blokes full of shit. Tim's defence improved dramatically against Tony harrison and Brian mendoza. The bright lights and lure of big money fights in America went to his head and he overlooked bakhram
But he didn't say Tszyu's defence is bad. The most relevant point is Tim's approach/strategy was insane, he didn't take the same approach for this fight as he did for Harrison and Mendoza. Instead Tim came out super aggressive, he didn't bother to feel his opponent out. Did you even watch the fight?
@@Soul-Taker I agree with your comment but not the journo's
Wats this guy takin about slim? Tim got smoked wide foo..his skills are far out from the top guys ..not slim
Correct. I've always believed that Tim is overrated. He's not even close to being as good as his dad. Kostya was a real freak. Tim is not.
Would have known but no one share sparring vids lmao rumor he was hurting dudes in sparring
You dope !
Kostya got knocked out easily due to arrogance as well
By who ?
@@KennoKarateChop Ricky hatton
This guy has no idea, I think listen to the interview with Jeff Fenech..... no need for domestic fights, work on defense, defense, defense, He's got loads of skills everywhere else... He's a world champ.... keep the focus, keep moving forward, never overlook anyone who is going to punch you in the head......maybe make some coach/ trainers changes, maybe his Dad changed Tim's mind set to prove something to him and lost focus, listen to the ones that have been in the ring and done it..... Just like Ted Cofie and Jeff Fenech say (both world champs that have been there in the ring)th-cam.com/video/LMei-mQPizc/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/rkHA8aaa86I/w-d-xo.html 👍
You obviously don't know who thus guy is.
I watched Fenech's video and he says basically the same thing, Tim was too aggressive and he needs to be more defensive.
@Soul-Taker correct. Have a look who this dude is. He knows what he's talking about.
I predict he's wrong. Tim dosn't have the class or ability the make it near the top.
Agreed.
That's nonsense.
@Soul-Taker no that would be everyone of your comments made on the subject
I’m devastated, I thought Tim was the real deal , he’s really nothing special, and I don’t think he can change much up this late in his career
I thought of him as potential top 5 but tried warning people he’s good but not special, if that makes sense ,
You know your Danny Garcia types who are up there near the top but tend to lose to the elite guys .
The only thing he did wrong was underestimate his opponent, which meant he was waaaay too aggressive. If he'd fought this fight the sane way he did Harrison and Mendoza he probably wins.
@@Soul-Taker probably wins , based on what ? He fought a guy with higher punch output and more power , I think that’s the wrong match up for Tim , he doesn’t hold the advantage.
2 fights 2 losses Fundora fight mistakes from trainer not getting fight stopped due to that terrible head cut. Latest loss wrong game plan against a stronger puncher no plan B. How many more errors Tim's career is in tatters needs new management and training team without doubt.
These guys are delusional. Tim Tszyu is done at elite level.
Very poor management judgement, three recent examples, taking on Fundora after preparing for Thurman, two completely different fighters which would require two completely different preparation camps and strategy.
The decision to continue with the Fundora fight when Tim could clearly not see with blood streaming down his face.
The decision to fight Murtazaliev after preparing for Victor Ortiz, no study ..... different prep, I mean why don't they just throw him under a bus?
Get a new team they obviously are only interested in making Tim fight for the money......really pisses me off.
It goes back to the Fundora fight, his corner should have been smarter and stopped it, they didn't do him any favours leaving him out there unable to see.
That led to this situation
I agree , but I go one step more and say management f@cked up even putting him in the ring with fundora on 2 weeks notice yes Tim wanted to fight bit gun ho but he's a fighter but that's where management and his trainer are there to save the fighter from himself and that's not happening for Tim , back to back world title losses reflects very poorly on the whole team . Tim can make it back but not with this crew and it will be a long hard road , some fighters never get the opportunity ever again .