DUUUUUUUUUDE! Thank you so much for this. I made your LA league starter build and progressed it all the way through the end game version. I been waiting for weeks now for a video on how to transition from your LA build to TS build. Thank you so much
@@damo06ab Only one effect can happen on a hit and effect priority means pierce happens first and chain (and fork) will not happen. Only split (like Ice Spear) comes before pierce.
Tuna, thank you very much for this guide. I'm not particularly experienced in the game, and was wondering how I could improve my tornado shot. And you gave a lot of ideas. Thank you!
oh btw for anyone interested in getting a forbidden flesh of any of these passives - be ready to pay a price fixer 50-90 divines for the "flame" portion.
Swapping from TR ballistas to this TS build. Still buying gear/gems/tattoos before respeccing but I'm really excited to get it done. This is my second league and I started with EA ballistas, then TR ballistas this league. This is definitely outside my comfort zone but looks incredible, can't wait to try.
Not all of your secondary projectiles can hit a target, every target can only be hit from 1 secondary projectile from every tornado. So if you have 8 projectiles, creating 8 tornados, you can hit with a maximum of 8 secondary projectiles not 8 * 3 (or 4) secondary projectiles. Wasn't super clear in the video. The helmet enchant and richochet only serve to significantly increase the chance for you to hit with the maximum amount of secondary projectiles.
Yeah you're right but The helm enchant and ricochet end up being huge DPS increases because as you add projectiles it becomes more and more difficult to aim and hit on a single target properly making each projectile much more likely to hit or if they miss have a chance to chain off terrain and back.
6:34 One base arrow.. all good until then. but plus two we have three?. which plus 2, I count 1 base 2 tattoes, and two passives from three. I count only 5. which one i missing?
Great video! I actually just swapped from LA to TS and only thing I changed was returning projectile gem for awakened chain and the build feels insane (first time playing TS). can’t wait to see when I properly set it up with the ascendancy change and such
Thank you very much for this guide! I was able to transition from my MF LA deadeye after finding a brothers gift in a Cemetery map! This has been the strongest character I have ever played and Tattoos are budget omni. THANK YOU AGAIN!
i went to ricochet but i dropped focal point instead of endless munitions. IDK if that was the right call but getting chain instead of pierce made the build feel 10x better.
Dear Lord Tuna :) I watched a video and went astray... I was told OMNI is necessary After Spending countless Hours farming (100Div) more or less and new it was dog shit, i looked back to you Sir and just equiped my LA Endgame Stuff and now i am BACK IN ACTION. Thanks for the guide
Going to go with this build with my second character. I have around 20div saved up and I wonder what the order of operations should be when picking up gear.
Bow always first priority 1k edps with 8.5+ crit if you can. Then getting life regen and resistance gear with flat life for your kaoms gloves rage regen. Make sure to get ailment avoidance too with the ancestral vision jewel. Don't neglect your flasks and chaos resistance too, strength is solved with a lethal pride so look for one of those with the pob tool. Good luck!
great videos. I swapped to TS and now am looking at getting my cluster jewel. The damage is great, the Random Arrow Direction Altars are trash, and only a little more DPS (maybe 1-3 add arrows) would let me melt these Legion Bosses faster.
Hey Tuna are you planning on making a new updated version of this video for the new league? I am considering league starting LA and would ideally like to transition to TS
I am doing an MF version but dont have the budget for flesh and flame. Would you suggest dropping far shot for endless munitions for last ascendancy point? Why far shot over endless munition otherwise?
Why aren’t we taking any ricochet in 3.23? Truck shot and the ascendancy aren’t taken in the new POB and guide. (I might be wrong abt trick shot, but I don’t remember those nodes when I respecc’d recently
Have you tried using the Abyss unique jewel that gives more chain when colliding with terrain chance. Upping the chance from 30% to 50% should be pretty nice but it's quite hard to quantify the actual dps increase in practise
mannnnnnnnnn the swap has been insane!!!! also MASSIVE PSA FOR THE WARRIORS TALE IN THE CLSUTER SLOT FOR UP TO 5 PROJ INSTEAD OF DROPPING 100 DIV ON FORBIDDEN JEWELS!!!!! wild customization and a WILD AF league cause i now have 13 proj without endless munitors and without dying sun................. and if i wanted ot drop gmp to get 60% MORE damage back i could and still push up to 10 proj BASE wild and thats with a +1 bow nad +1 quiver lmfaoooooooooo finally get ot love this skill, blast legion,s and work up the perfect gear i need ot squeeze some miserable chaos res into this build XDXDXD soontm
Lets say, if the maximum projectile range of 100 meters and the enemy spawn radius of 50 meters, what is the optimal projectile speed? In this scenario, a projectile speed that exceeds the enemy spawn radius might be considered excessive
hello tuna i just have problem with skills fire an additional projectile tattoo i can't put it in my tree i have 7 passive skill allocated and small dex node just like u but i can't use it
I'm wondering, what about cold conversion with a phys bow and maybe heatshiver vs your setup? Also could u make a guide for MF tornado shot? I feel there isnt many good guides out there
You need omni for cold conversion, becouse trinity doesnt work with full cold conversion. Then you have no penetration wich is awful. He mirrored the ele bow becouse he doesnt want to go omni, so he can only do ele trinity version.
@@aka_LocK Yeah you can, but then there is no point in the whole thing. The reason why the cold conversion is super powerful is becouse of double dipping on hatred. If you use alt qual TS then its pretty much the same as using a tri ele bow, or worse even, since ele bows can go up to 1500 dps.
@@bangomargit agreed that is not the most optimal for the cookie cutter TS build, but there are clearly other benefits that being phys adds when it comes gearing/gem'ing with that package. Ex. hatred watchers/ToH etc. to name a few.
Honestly with the helm enchant and 9+ main projectiles I don't think you even need to worry about using ballista anymore. You'll have an easy 20-30mil DPS or more from just TS, which is enough for everything.
I wasn't considering TS as I thought the swap from lightning arrow would be too expensive with a CO purchase. I make maybe 22 divines in an entire league, but the tattoos and gear are something more reasonable for me personally, instead of one item being that price. I'm excited to try TS for the first time.
@@sniperprice626 No, not to the extent that requires me to make more currency. I just can't do it, man. Running 1000 legions a day or something would make me want to blow my brains out. I play a little bit of everything in a league, and then stop. Much like a diablo 3 season. I do the season journey and I'm done. As an aside, I always love to hear from the PoE elitist veterans. You guys are always so welcoming and friendly with your condescension,
What sort of rage regen do you need to feel "good"? I wanna drop voll's but a bit worried about making rage regen work without it. I could drop a nice chaos res ring for kikazaru, but wouldnt the survivability take a hit?
@@yunusdts just in case your still interested, after some playing I’ve coke to the conclusion to not spec into endless munitions because as he said in the video you can get an easy +4 projectiles with the 2 Ramako Makanga tattoos and 2 warriors tales which is possible with his build, it’s just a bit of dedication to getting like 5 divs to buy 1 or grind out tota
www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ancestor/Gd0JrgYib This seasrch is for endless munition, but remember that you can have any deadeye ascendancy on flesh/flame jewels so look up all of them to see which is cheapest.
Does this build work as league starter? Trying to pick a build for this league and this looks very fun zooming around the map but obviously i will have no currency to start with so i wanna make sure it can work without much money before trying
Hi folks! I am looking for a Lightning warp TS budget build. I just want to try it out to absolutely blast some t1 essence farming. What is the minimally required? I don't necessarily need a billion teleports a second to begin with like on crouching tunas video😃
Are the poeninja links wrong ? because the builds don't look like shown in the video examble: armory or Not even the Mageblood variant that shows a different belt
@@CrouchingTuna I thank you for your answer, so I start following Ts no Flesh & Flame, and I have a problem and I can't find the answer in any of your videos, how can I get Wind Dencer? pob says a keystone tattoo, but what kind of tattoo would that be?
@@CrouchingTuna I understand I have to use Journey Tattoo of Makanui in the hope of changing the keystone to a more useful one, as always this game remains a mega lottery, ty Tuna
I'm trying to do TS now. How is defense setup on this? full evasion ... evasion/armor... or just have such high dps everything dies instantly or you get 1-shot?
There's a Ring(edit: Sibyl's Lament is ring name) that reduces phys reflect damage in Left Slot(or is it Right? I forget) so you drop 1 ring temporarily and you can run that plus use the Pantheon that reduces reflect damage taken by 60%. You will get 110% phys reflect if you do this. If you only fire 1 skill, let's say tornado shot, if you equip an Awakened Elemental Damage skill gem it also prevents reflect on the ele dmg (Make sure to turn off Manaforged Arrows as the arrows they fire would be a different source when talking about the Awakened Ele Dam gem). If you wear a Sibyl's Lament and use the Pantheon with Awakened Elemental Dam gem you can do Atziri and not worry about reflect.
Hey ? How do you still get Onslaught if you have Dying Sun flask ? In the POB in configuration it says you have onslaught but just can't find where it is I would prefer to keep onslaught with attk speek crafted than dying sun for speed farming
I just want to chime in that "budget tornado shot" is a real thing at least for t16 maps and league mechanics. I have only invested about 6 divine so far and it feels great. I look forward to scaling it further.
Yeah, you're still going to feel very "mid" as the kids say for bossing, but clear is excellent in red maps on low budget. I've spent another 20 divine and I can handle harvest mobs pretty well. A long way to go to be "god-tier."@@b0nes95
Awesome video! This is my first TS league. Im at the point where I just got a mageblood, so im looking to upgrade my bow. What do you recommend me to farm? Im currently doing dunes with legion and expedition. Thanks!
Glad you are breaking the myth about TS TS does not need 100 div to start However, I am still wondering how many proj is soft or hard cap? I have 14 with greater proj + dying sun, nothing on my bow yet, and not sure whether change greater proj to chain maybe? Also, I personally removed mark effect instead, and no issue for clearing, tried all, and seems best like that
Have you price-checked anything? :) It actually insane, even if you decide to get proj tattoo -12 divs, ench on helmet 15 div base..I have decent late LA in line with tuna guide, but every single upgrade is in range of 10div+, market gone wild. Not even start with Flash&Flame - they keep rising day by day now at 75+ divs for each...to get to mid tier TS you need now about 2 mirrors...very sad to be stuck with LA or entry TS, unles u hit jackpot or have no life...
more than enough u can setup t16 maps with 15-20divs and then progress with gear easily, most expensive will be good bow but if u look good u can find reeeealy good bows for 10divs
Do we still want a tri ele bow on the forbidden flesh/flame setup? Im new, just trying to figure out what kind of bow I need. Its also hard for me to tell when a bow with +1 or +2 projectiles but lower ele DPS is better than a bow with higher ele DPS
@@elantonellewellll, let's say I have a phys bow and could afford omni, Tuna said he's not doing omni but maybe it's still playable with phys bow right?
I'm doing a rage+Omni setup at the moment. No problem with using Volls with enchant. Just note you cannot use corruptions and helm can't have extra suppression (save 2 points) or Eldritch mods (harder to ailment cap). Since I went Omni I gave up on ailment cap long ago, and roll over desecrated ground since my chaos res is really low.
culling strike is not 10% more damage, it's 11.11...% more damage because it doesn't add 10% damage, it reduces the time to dps something down to 90% (time). so it's even better, yes. same thing with slayer culling strike.
I've come with a void damage setup with my tornado shot and does great damage. The survivability is inconsistent. Sometimes I can melt an entire map and sometimes I can get one tapped randomly. I've been stuck at lvl 88 since the first week of 3.22 and I'm on the verge of rage quitting..
@@j.p.8409 I've been doing this, following this build guide so closely and I still somehow randomly get one hit mid map even when I'm going through said map without a single issue. It just doesn't make sense. 8 hours of exp grinding just gone within minutes and it's such bullshit. I guess I'm just supposed to farm low yellow maps until I level up enough to get more skill points and just hope I dont get one tapped anymore? I already have about 5-8 divines invested into this. I love this build, it's really fun but I'm hard stuck.
Outstanding build man! I'm wondering at what ponit do we take off GMP for chain? Like when we get a +2 bow and +1 quiver? I have every arrow i can right now minus FF, thoughts?
Try them both out and see honestly you have to feel out your own build for the content you're running and tune it to your preference. There is no rules for this kind of stuff don't worry
Fully leaning on tattoos with tree and base is insane, gmp gives you 10 ARROWS! This alone is why i want to swap, buuuuut dropping focal point for endless lets me drop gmp And still have 8 proj BUT CAN ALSO RUN AN EXTRA LINK WHICH COULD BE LIKE 60% MORE DAMAGE with still comfyproj count which sounds wild. Even at the loss of sniper ark power, we can still get teansfer from mastery until i can farm up a forbidden set. Its suuuuuuuuuch an interesting option!!!! More damage on every arrow and still up to 10 with dyingsun could make clear and mapping waaaaaaaaaaay better IF I CAN cap crit. Its wild!
Another nice vid Tuna, unfortunately for me, i was looking for the next step from your LA build (if there is any) I just crafted an insane jewel, so im wondering if that is better than the "late game" LA we have now
The next step would be working towards mageblood, or +2 arrow bow but honestly in the Pob I linked you could put LA instead and it would also work really well
Cool video. I transitioned from Raider RoA to Deadeye TS and it feels great. However some differences are: (1) I'm using The Fledgling Helm for Far Shot (can't avoid flesh/flame), (2) Not using Kaom's Rage/Berserk Tech (don't want to bother with regen), (3) I am using a bucket load of +4 attribute tattoos to solve stat issues, (4) All my gear is < 2 divine per slot (I'm not rich in game). I have never used TS before, nor have I ever tried Omni. My goal was to switch to Omni, however I have no idea how MUCH omni stat total I need for it to be usable. Like 1500 minimum? I don't want to farm the amulet or buy it and then realize I can't really play it.
Oh I also switched from Sniper's Mark to Assassin's mark to cap out at 100% crit vs rare/uniques because I'm using knockback on crit and it is SUPER FUN to drive enemies off screen. The QoL is very much worth it to me, even though I'm sure Sniper's Mark is much better damage wise.
i crafted the endgame bow for LA, the one on the other video and i have x4 double damage %str jewel too. thats why im afraid to swap, i have 130 divines, i was about to buy headhunter for the first time in poe. what to do now
I bought the headhunter, and left everything as is from the LA variation - Hyrri's Truth/Ire etc. The build felt much better since i didn't have to put down ballistas for ST anymore. So you should be fine to transition. Only thing I would invest in is the +1 Skill projectile tattoo with Warrior's Tale gem to get +2 to have more spread and make sure to slot Chain as well. The Headhunter makes a world of a difference and really boosts your defense/offense.
@@decembertide what about ascendancy? i have trouble puttimg warriors tale for my build, i’ll check. i am not sure since i am fully endgame gear except omni and ofc belt, i was thinking what will i do when i use hh because of resistances. i’ll see today
@@yunusdts As Deadeye, I removed Endless Munitions when I switched to TS and got the +2 Skill Projectiles via the warriors tale + tattoo. Then I took Ricochet for the chain effect. I tried the Omni variation, but it requires you to remove all of your Kaom/Berserk gear and buy Black Sun's Crest (helmet) and a bunch of other changes. Basically, it's almost impossible to balance stats and accuracy without making a complete redo with omni since you lose level 30 precision and culling strike from Hyri's truth. So I gave up on the idea. When you switch to HH, you can fix your resistances via Harvest crafts or even tattoos. Most of my res comes from my rings and boots including chaos res.
I'm currently building this character and i'd like to include HH. Although i'm tempted to buy the flesh/flame jewels too. What would be the first upgrade between these two ? (Planning to mostly run juiced maps)
Hi Tuna. Recently swtich from LA to TS. I can almost oneshot even rares when alch and go, but I have a pretty low amount of attack speed for killing bosses. What are the cheapest and more end game options for more attack speed? Also, do you think rage is mandatory or at least OP for TS or are other options like The Fledgling also good enough?
Rage generation glove, Kaom's Spirit, u need to rely on life gain on hit and leech for survival though. Use berserk skill at max rage. u probably want 500 life regen if u want mapping coverage. otherwise, 200-300 is good enough for bursting down boss and thic rare.
DUUUUUUUUUDE! Thank you so much for this. I made your LA league starter build and progressed it all the way through the end game version. I been waiting for weeks now for a video on how to transition from your LA build to TS build. Thank you so much
Same
I found LA better than TS btw xDDD
One thing when you transition from la to tornado shot - GET RID OF YOUR PIERCE NODE. Make sure you have no pierce, it messes chain up.
Can you explain why?
@@damo06ab Only one effect can happen on a hit and effect priority means pierce happens first and chain (and fork) will not happen. Only split (like Ice Spear) comes before pierce.
@@Fidtz Thanks. Didn’t know that. Need to respec some stuff. Thanks for your answer!
Thanks was confused why his linked pob still shows him allocating pierce.
So if i have quiver with base adding Arrows Pierce an additional Target i need to change quiver?
Tuna, thank you very much for this guide. I'm not particularly experienced in the game, and was wondering how I could improve my tornado shot. And you gave a lot of ideas. Thank you!
What a timing, thought today is the day to transition to TS from LA and you upload, perfect!
tuna holy crap you're reading my mind, this is exactly the guide i've been wanting!!!
Awesome guide. Thanks Tuna!!
Thank you
oh btw for anyone interested in getting a forbidden flesh of any of these passives - be ready to pay a price fixer 50-90 divines for the "flame" portion.
Swapping from TR ballistas to this TS build. Still buying gear/gems/tattoos before respeccing but I'm really excited to get it done. This is my second league and I started with EA ballistas, then TR ballistas this league.
This is definitely outside my comfort zone but looks incredible, can't wait to try.
Not all of your secondary projectiles can hit a target, every target can only be hit from 1 secondary projectile from every tornado. So if you have 8 projectiles, creating 8 tornados, you can hit with a maximum of 8 secondary projectiles not 8 * 3 (or 4) secondary projectiles. Wasn't super clear in the video. The helmet enchant and richochet only serve to significantly increase the chance for you to hit with the maximum amount of secondary projectiles.
also a reason when you already have +3 arrows from other sources, it's better to just drop GMP for more damage, so yeah he missed a bit here.
@Aeroxen so for how many proj should i aim w/o endless
Can you elaborate on this?
@@Aeroxen it's never better to drop arrows, you lose clear on a skill that already has plenty of single target.
Yeah you're right but The helm enchant and ricochet end up being huge DPS increases because as you add projectiles it becomes more and more difficult to aim and hit on a single target properly making each projectile much more likely to hit or if they miss have a chance to chain off terrain and back.
By far one of the best build guides on youtube.
Also the build is just insane strong and fun.
EA smokes this shit 🤣
Holy shit i swapped my TS build to your budget version, which was cheaper, and it got so much better, thanks a lot!
6:34 One base arrow.. all good until then. but plus two we have three?. which plus 2, I count 1 base 2 tattoes, and two passives from three. I count only 5. which one i missing?
Great video!
I actually just swapped from LA to TS and only thing I changed was returning projectile gem for awakened chain and the build feels insane (first time playing TS).
can’t wait to see when I properly set it up with the ascendancy change and such
Any reason the TS gem that goes with ballista is capped at level 6 on the TS start POB?
have you found out yet? I switched yesterday to TS and also stumbled upon that.
@@svenbardos6637 I just maxed it out and didn’t have any problems with it.
@@Smokeybearr thx mate
Thank you very much for this guide! I was able to transition from my MF LA deadeye after finding a brothers gift in a Cemetery map! This has been the strongest character I have ever played and Tattoos are budget omni. THANK YOU AGAIN!
i went to ricochet but i dropped focal point instead of endless munitions. IDK if that was the right call but getting chain instead of pierce made the build feel 10x better.
I did the same. Wonder if its correct too
Dear Lord Tuna :) I watched a video and went astray... I was told OMNI is necessary
After Spending countless Hours farming (100Div) more or less and new it was dog shit, i looked back to you Sir and just equiped my LA Endgame Stuff and now i am BACK IN ACTION.
Thanks for the guide
I can't get the 4th ramako tattoo to work on the second pob the one you have all the way at the bottom. any idea?
Does anybody know what atlas tree he is using at this point?
Going to go with this build with my second character. I have around 20div saved up and I wonder what the order of operations should be when picking up gear.
Bow always first priority 1k edps with 8.5+ crit if you can. Then getting life regen and resistance gear with flat life for your kaoms gloves rage regen. Make sure to get ailment avoidance too with the ancestral vision jewel. Don't neglect your flasks and chaos resistance too, strength is solved with a lethal pride so look for one of those with the pob tool. Good luck!
@@CrouchingTuna What are the other important stat on lethal pride to look for?
I dont think the mageblood POB in your description is working correctly.
If you open it in the PoB Application they work. In browser its wonky
great videos. I swapped to TS and now am looking at getting my cluster jewel. The damage is great, the Random Arrow Direction Altars are trash, and only a little more DPS (maybe 1-3 add arrows) would let me melt these Legion Bosses faster.
where's the lightning warp version?
can you do an omni variant cold convert tree for this please?
Hey Tuna are you planning on making a new updated version of this video for the new league? I am considering league starting LA and would ideally like to transition to TS
I am doing an MF version but dont have the budget for flesh and flame. Would you suggest dropping far shot for endless munitions for last ascendancy point? Why far shot over endless munition otherwise?
Why aren’t we taking any ricochet in 3.23? Truck shot and the ascendancy aren’t taken in the new POB and guide. (I might be wrong abt trick shot, but I don’t remember those nodes when I respecc’d recently
That was awesome harvest demonstration, lol
Have you tried using the Abyss unique jewel that gives more chain when colliding with terrain chance. Upping the chance from 30% to 50% should be pretty nice but it's quite hard to quantify the actual dps increase in practise
mannnnnnnnnn the swap has been insane!!!! also MASSIVE PSA FOR THE WARRIORS TALE IN THE CLSUTER SLOT FOR UP TO 5 PROJ INSTEAD OF DROPPING 100 DIV ON FORBIDDEN JEWELS!!!!! wild customization and a WILD AF league cause i now have 13 proj without endless munitors and without dying sun................. and if i wanted ot drop gmp to get 60% MORE damage back i could and still push up to 10 proj BASE wild and thats with a +1 bow nad +1 quiver lmfaoooooooooo finally get ot love this skill, blast legion,s and work up the perfect gear i need ot squeeze some miserable chaos res into this build XDXDXD soontm
Not sure if this has been talked about, but I was having trouble with reflect maps, and it turns out that manaforged-frenzy was causing the issue.
Adding a level range to the "Early - Mid - Late" to skill gems, so what level to change to Mid setup
awesome video tuna, i got baited into the headless rue version but i'll swap once i can craft an enchanted helm
Lets say, if the maximum projectile range of 100 meters and the enemy spawn radius of 50 meters, what is the optimal projectile speed? In this scenario, a projectile speed that exceeds the enemy spawn radius might be considered excessive
the links arent working properly
If you open them in the POB Application they work. In the browser they are wonky
hello tuna i just have problem with skills fire an additional projectile tattoo i can't put it in my tree i have 7 passive skill allocated and small dex node just like u but i can't use it
Interesting. I’m making a tornado shot on SSF. I need to see how and if it’s possible to target farm some of the uniques.
I'm wondering, what about cold conversion with a phys bow and maybe heatshiver vs your setup? Also could u make a guide for MF tornado shot? I feel there isnt many good guides out there
You need omni for cold conversion, becouse trinity doesnt work with full cold conversion. Then you have no penetration wich is awful. He mirrored the ele bow becouse he doesnt want to go omni, so he can only do ele trinity version.
Can also go alt quality TS with trinity if you wanted phys without glove slot or Omni.
@@aka_LocK Yeah you can, but then there is no point in the whole thing. The reason why the cold conversion is super powerful is becouse of double dipping on hatred. If you use alt qual TS then its pretty much the same as using a tri ele bow, or worse even, since ele bows can go up to 1500 dps.
@@bangomargit agreed that is not the most optimal for the cookie cutter TS build, but there are clearly other benefits that being phys adds when it comes gearing/gem'ing with that package. Ex. hatred watchers/ToH etc. to name a few.
@@bangomargitfalse, heatshiver gives both cold and fire dmg, it triggers trinity..
Honestly with the helm enchant and 9+ main projectiles I don't think you even need to worry about using ballista anymore. You'll have an easy 20-30mil DPS or more from just TS, which is enough for everything.
I wasn't considering TS as I thought the swap from lightning arrow would be too expensive with a CO purchase. I make maybe 22 divines in an entire league, but the tattoos and gear are something more reasonable for me personally, instead of one item being that price. I'm excited to try TS for the first time.
the +1 proj tattoo is 14 divs
how do you make only 22 div for an entire league? do you not play any mechanics?
@@sniperprice626 No, not to the extent that requires me to make more currency. I just can't do it, man. Running 1000 legions a day or something would make me want to blow my brains out. I play a little bit of everything in a league, and then stop. Much like a diablo 3 season. I do the season journey and I'm done. As an aside, I always love to hear from the PoE elitist veterans. You guys are always so welcoming and friendly with your condescension,
could you maybe check out the Tornado Shot CoC ice spear build? would be interested to see your take on it, it looks nuts
how are you capping ur resistances ? the pob shows like no resistances on ur gear :/
What sort of rage regen do you need to feel "good"? I wanna drop voll's but a bit worried about making rage regen work without it. I could drop a nice chaos res ring for kikazaru, but wouldnt the survivability take a hit?
Its like 1 second of berserk for rage per sec
Could I take endless munitions and ricochet instead of far shot?? Or does that sacrifice to much long distance damage
i want to know the same
@@yunusdts just in case your still interested, after some playing I’ve coke to the conclusion to not spec into endless munitions because as he said in the video you can get an easy +4 projectiles with the 2 Ramako Makanga tattoos and 2 warriors tales which is possible with his build, it’s just a bit of dedication to getting like 5 divs to buy 1 or grind out tota
@@jagobot1487 yes i will swap to that later, i am farming for hh and i need 5 more div. then i'll do what he did and respec it later. thank you
Psa: suppresion tattoo only works when hit with a spell from a UNIQUE. Great for bosse sor exiles but otherwise not offtenly used yep
the pob links correct? They have unique boots on them, and biscos leash. The mageblood one doesn't even have mageblood on it.
Open in actual pob app the site is incorrect
bro i cannot find the endless munitions jewels anywhere, they dont even appear to be a searchable item, can someone help plz
www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ancestor/Gd0JrgYib This seasrch is for endless munition, but remember that you can have any deadeye ascendancy on flesh/flame jewels so look up all of them to see which is cheapest.
Is 40 div enough for this build?
yeah, everything but his mageblood & mirror tier bow at the end
At what level should you switch from the LS LA to the Tornado shot?
Pobs in description are wrong for Tornado shot. Still shows allocating pierce?
They're right, just import to pob. Poe.ninja is just showing the leveling pob
So when is comes to nearby enemies are intimidated while you have rage, what is the range of it? Is it too close to consider even running it?
thanks for the crash course my man! what curse do you use, snipers mark? or does that mess with chain? thanks again ❤
how would i go about crafting the helmet used in the pob with the forbidden jewels
hows that perma onslaugt on deadeye?
edit:
Ow i see mageblood
The tattoo also it grants 4 sec on hit
You got the loot filters linked anywhere? Im doing LA
POBs linked in the description looks old. Can somebody post POB from the video please?
Poe.ninja displays it wrong, if you import the Pob it's fine
Youre right, sorry@@CrouchingTuna
are the equipment on the guide u linked all right? it seems to me they dont change.
I was just checking your channel for this video that’s what I am talking about
Why do you use %5 chance to blind enemies tattoo while you have blind wheel already?
Why the blind chance tatoo if we have dazzling strikes ?
Does this build work as league starter? Trying to pick a build for this league and this looks very fun zooming around the map but obviously i will have no currency to start with so i wanna make sure it can work without much money before trying
U start as LA and then transition to TS later on. LA is also hella fun!
What's better LA or TS?
LA is better early, TS is better at doing all content and scales without needing to place ballista totems to help with single target dam.
Thanks a lot for the video, great guide. Btw, stupid question - how do you get 100% crit chance on the bow builds?
use Spine bow as a base, all the nodes on the tree for crit are mandatory and also the crit against blinded enemies mastery helps
Hi folks! I am looking for a Lightning warp TS budget build. I just want to try it out to absolutely blast some t1 essence farming. What is the minimally required? I don't necessarily need a billion teleports a second to begin with like on crouching tunas video😃
Are the poeninja links wrong ? because the builds don't look like shown in the video examble: armory or
Not even the Mageblood variant that shows a different belt
i mean why u dont post a PoB link or code so i can copy it and directly use in PoB
@@owtie3 you can use that link and import it into pob, it's literally what its for, the poe.ninja displays the leveling gear set.
@@CrouchingTuna ok thank you ^^
I don't understand, in the video you see a tree but in the link in the description it's completely different, I'm really confused
I updated the pobs as the league progressed
@@CrouchingTuna I thank you for your answer, so I start following Ts no Flesh & Flame, and I have a problem and I can't find the answer in any of your videos, how can I get Wind Dencer? pob says a keystone tattoo, but what kind of tattoo would that be?
@@battols you don't need wind dancer, you want to use a journey tatto to change to keystone to anything that isn't detrimental to the build.
@@CrouchingTuna I understand I have to use Journey Tattoo of Makanui in the hope of changing the keystone to a more useful one, as always this game remains a mega lottery, ty Tuna
In the low budget TS pob I noticed there is a flask mastery which uses 4 passive points, is it required?
Is there a way to craft your rare items to get regen or i just spam essensec and hope to get what i want?
I'm trying to do TS now. How is defense setup on this? full evasion ... evasion/armor... or just have such high dps everything dies instantly or you get 1-shot?
Were i can see that PoB?
any tips how to deal with reflect? Uber Atziri is impossible to do with this build because of physical damage reflection
There's a Ring(edit: Sibyl's Lament is ring name) that reduces phys reflect damage in Left Slot(or is it Right? I forget) so you drop 1 ring temporarily and you can run that plus use the Pantheon that reduces reflect damage taken by 60%. You will get 110% phys reflect if you do this. If you only fire 1 skill, let's say tornado shot, if you equip an Awakened Elemental Damage skill gem it also prevents reflect on the ele dmg (Make sure to turn off Manaforged Arrows as the arrows they fire would be a different source when talking about the Awakened Ele Dam gem). If you wear a Sibyl's Lament and use the Pantheon with Awakened Elemental Dam gem you can do Atziri and not worry about reflect.
Thanks! It worked!@@Meatbun
Hey ? How do you still get Onslaught if you have Dying Sun flask ? In the POB in configuration it says you have onslaught but just can't find where it is
I would prefer to keep onslaught with attk speek crafted than dying sun for speed farming
There is no dying sun in Pob, could you be looking at it wrong? He's using Silver Flask with increased effect and mageblood
He is using tattoo on Alacrity node to get onslaught on hit
Hey! The build can do ubers, pinnacles etc or its not so tanky just good for mapping and mechanics?
Is there any content / map mods it can’t do? ie: elemental reflect ?
I just want to chime in that "budget tornado shot" is a real thing at least for t16 maps and league mechanics. I have only invested about 6 divine so far and it feels great. I look forward to scaling it further.
Those proj tattoos alone cost 7 div :(
Yeah, you're still going to feel very "mid" as the kids say for bossing, but clear is excellent in red maps on low budget. I've spent another 20 divine and I can handle harvest mobs pretty well. A long way to go to be "god-tier."@@b0nes95
So if i have quiver with base adding Arrows Pierce an additional Target i need to change quiver?
only if you want to add chain and/or if you are using Sniper's Mark as you need those effects to happen instead of pierce.
Awesome video! This is my first TS league. Im at the point where I just got a mageblood, so im looking to upgrade my bow. What do you recommend me to farm? Im currently doing dunes with legion and expedition. Thanks!
Question, I was looking at his pob and I can’t figure out where is he getting onslaught from?
he has annointed alacrity on his amulet and then applied onslaught on hit tattoo
@@TheHonyar thank you! I just didn’t zoom out on the pob 😂
Glad you are breaking the myth about TS
TS does not need 100 div to start
However, I am still wondering how many proj is soft or hard cap? I have 14 with greater proj + dying sun, nothing on my bow yet, and not sure whether change greater proj to chain maybe?
Also, I personally removed mark effect instead, and no issue for clearing, tried all, and seems best like that
Have you price-checked anything? :) It actually insane, even if you decide to get proj tattoo -12 divs, ench on helmet 15 div base..I have decent late LA in line with tuna guide, but every single upgrade is in range of 10div+, market gone wild. Not even start with Flash&Flame - they keep rising day by day now at 75+ divs for each...to get to mid tier TS you need now about 2 mirrors...very sad to be stuck with LA or entry TS, unles u hit jackpot or have no life...
is 30 Div enough to get a fast TS build going minus crazy expensive stuff?
more than enough u can setup t16 maps with 15-20divs and then progress with gear easily, most expensive will be good bow but if u look good u can find reeeealy good bows for 10divs
hyrri irae is 4 div and the rest is really cheap and u can set it up how u want
Do we still want a tri ele bow on the forbidden flesh/flame setup? Im new, just trying to figure out what kind of bow I need. Its also hard for me to tell when a bow with +1 or +2 projectiles but lower ele DPS is better than a bow with higher ele DPS
Ele bow with as much damage, crit and arrows as possible. Prioritise damage and crit since this league you can get a ton of arrows on the tree
Would you go tri-ele or phys>cold without omni?
If you cant afford omni you definitely cant afford phys, only go phys when you have line 150-200 divines minimum
@@elantonellewellll, let's say I have a phys bow and could afford omni, Tuna said he's not doing omni but maybe it's still playable with phys bow right?
So a bow with 850 dps, but 2 additional arrows is better than 1300 dps bow without arrows right?
How do you get onslaught without silver flask? Couldn't find it on Pob.
I had to look for this too, he anointed alacrity node (+30 dex) then tattooed it to give onslaught
Is starting TS able to run sanctum? i'm tired of MFing Crimson Temple on LA, just dropped an apothecary and i think it's about time.
A quick question if you can answer, I have a TS enchanted Voll's Vision, lucked out in lab, is it possible to keep the rage setup?
I'm doing a rage+Omni setup at the moment. No problem with using Volls with enchant. Just note you cannot use corruptions and helm can't have extra suppression (save 2 points) or Eldritch mods (harder to ailment cap).
Since I went Omni I gave up on ailment cap long ago, and roll over desecrated ground since my chaos res is really low.
FYI the PoBs in the description all link to the same build!
culling strike is not 10% more damage, it's 11.11...% more damage because it doesn't add 10% damage, it reduces the time to dps something down to 90% (time). so it's even better, yes. same thing with slayer culling strike.
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I've come with a void damage setup with my tornado shot and does great damage. The survivability is inconsistent. Sometimes I can melt an entire map and sometimes I can get one tapped randomly. I've been stuck at lvl 88 since the first week of 3.22 and I'm on the verge of rage quitting..
I've gone to lvl 98 mapping, using only really cheap items apart from bow + uniques. if you struggle to level, just run some xp rotas?
@@j.p.8409 I've been doing this, following this build guide so closely and I still somehow randomly get one hit mid map even when I'm going through said map without a single issue. It just doesn't make sense. 8 hours of exp grinding just gone within minutes and it's such bullshit.
I guess I'm just supposed to farm low yellow maps until I level up enough to get more skill points and just hope I dont get one tapped anymore? I already have about 5-8 divines invested into this. I love this build, it's really fun but I'm hard stuck.
Outstanding build man! I'm wondering at what ponit do we take off GMP for chain? Like when we get a +2 bow and +1 quiver? I have every arrow i can right now minus FF, thoughts?
Try them both out and see honestly you have to feel out your own build for the content you're running and tune it to your preference. There is no rules for this kind of stuff don't worry
@@CrouchingTuna thanks buddy!
Fully leaning on tattoos with tree and base is insane, gmp gives you 10 ARROWS! This alone is why i want to swap, buuuuut dropping focal point for endless lets me drop gmp And still have 8 proj BUT CAN ALSO RUN AN EXTRA LINK WHICH COULD BE LIKE 60% MORE DAMAGE with still comfyproj count which sounds wild. Even at the loss of sniper ark power, we can still get teansfer from mastery until i can farm up a forbidden set. Its suuuuuuuuuch an interesting option!!!! More damage on every arrow and still up to 10 with dyingsun could make clear and mapping waaaaaaaaaaay better IF I CAN cap crit. Its wild!
Another nice vid Tuna, unfortunately for me, i was looking for the next step from your LA build (if there is any)
I just crafted an insane jewel, so im wondering if that is better than the "late game" LA we have now
The next step would be working towards mageblood, or +2 arrow bow but honestly in the Pob I linked you could put LA instead and it would also work really well
Cool video. I transitioned from Raider RoA to Deadeye TS and it feels great. However some differences are: (1) I'm using The Fledgling Helm for Far Shot (can't avoid flesh/flame), (2) Not using Kaom's Rage/Berserk Tech (don't want to bother with regen), (3) I am using a bucket load of +4 attribute tattoos to solve stat issues, (4) All my gear is < 2 divine per slot (I'm not rich in game).
I have never used TS before, nor have I ever tried Omni. My goal was to switch to Omni, however I have no idea how MUCH omni stat total I need for it to be usable. Like 1500 minimum? I don't want to farm the amulet or buy it and then realize I can't really play it.
Oh I also switched from Sniper's Mark to Assassin's mark to cap out at 100% crit vs rare/uniques because I'm using knockback on crit and it is SUPER FUN to drive enemies off screen. The QoL is very much worth it to me, even though I'm sure Sniper's Mark is much better damage wise.
Can i run magic find on this build without changing anything on the skill tree?
How much will I spend to build this version with mageblood? (I already have mageblood)
i crafted the endgame bow for LA, the one on the other video and i have x4 double damage %str jewel too. thats why im afraid to swap, i have 130 divines, i was about to buy headhunter for the first time in poe.
what to do now
I bought the headhunter, and left everything as is from the LA variation - Hyrri's Truth/Ire etc. The build felt much better since i didn't have to put down ballistas for ST anymore. So you should be fine to transition. Only thing I would invest in is the +1 Skill projectile tattoo with Warrior's Tale gem to get +2 to have more spread and make sure to slot Chain as well. The Headhunter makes a world of a difference and really boosts your defense/offense.
@@decembertide what about ascendancy? i have trouble puttimg warriors tale for my build, i’ll check.
i am not sure since i am fully endgame gear except omni and ofc belt, i was thinking what will i do when i use hh because of resistances. i’ll see today
@@yunusdts As Deadeye, I removed Endless Munitions when I switched to TS and got the +2 Skill Projectiles via the warriors tale + tattoo. Then I took Ricochet for the chain effect.
I tried the Omni variation, but it requires you to remove all of your Kaom/Berserk gear and buy Black Sun's Crest (helmet) and a bunch of other changes. Basically, it's almost impossible to balance stats and accuracy without making a complete redo with omni since you lose level 30 precision and culling strike from Hyri's truth. So I gave up on the idea.
When you switch to HH, you can fix your resistances via Harvest crafts or even tattoos. Most of my res comes from my rings and boots including chaos res.
I really liked the build.
took the budget option and it works amazingly.
yet, it's still expensive as TS items are overpriced
I'm currently building this character and i'd like to include HH. Although i'm tempted to buy the flesh/flame jewels too. What would be the first upgrade between these two ? (Planning to mostly run juiced maps)
If you have hh you shouldn't need to ask that question. Unless you card swiped?
Hi Tuna. Recently swtich from LA to TS. I can almost oneshot even rares when alch and go, but I have a pretty low amount of attack speed for killing bosses. What are the cheapest and more end game options for more attack speed?
Also, do you think rage is mandatory or at least OP for TS or are other options like The Fledgling also good enough?
Rage generation glove, Kaom's Spirit, u need to rely on life gain on hit and leech for survival though. Use berserk skill at max rage. u probably want 500 life regen if u want mapping coverage. otherwise, 200-300 is good enough for bursting down boss and thic rare.
they said 700-800 regen has really good coverage during mapping. I personally never tried that.