Because people like the fantasy of going all kung fu on brigands? I mean shit, by that logic dnd would be exclusively people throwing artificer spells (which don't require you to be a mage to use them) at all opponents, not to mention the war crimes one could perform with bags of holding. Yes, yes, it's easy to pick nits at fantasy worlds but if your biggest gripe about lack of realism or pragmatism is the magical punch rogues then you are seriously missing the forest for the trees. I mean, they add their wisdom to their AC. Why? How would in reality being street smart or perceptive help hits not land on you? How does the same skill that helps you figure out if you're being lied to better help avoiding damage just as much as the skill that makes you more quick-footed and flexible? Why would wearing armor make barbarians (whose unarmored defense scales off constitution which implies they have the thick skin to shrug off blows) lose their con mod bonus to AC? And these are literally off the top of my head. And the answer is simple:the game tries to be at least somewhat balanced while selling a fantasy. And some people don't wanna sword or sorcery. Some people just wanna fist. And while discussing the real-life potential of martial arts against weapons is a fun pastime, you're just being a grand ol' stick in the mud. So to answer your question in a tl:dr fashion: because people pick monk because they think punching would be far more fun than a sword or magic. It's that simple, and realism was never a concern. Also monk weapon proficiency is just a crutch for early game. Not everyone likes dealing d4s all the time.
I'm liking this new genre. The 1st person view shows your point easily across since we actually see it from the opponents view & vice versa. Maybe more outside- the- box techniques next time like you did with your sword- catching vid & this one.
Yes, the first person view at eye level, really makes it obvious I wouldn't want to oppose you in a sword fight. There was a couple moments when your focus and seriousness to showcase the movements quite menacing. Well done. Go Ontario and Flush The Turd on the 20th.
Did you know thers a quest in AC vallhala where you need to burn down a house of couple to get the to do it... same thing oonly with less property damage. 🤪
I was one of the people who asked about this on a recent stream. I am very satisfied with Skall's take on it. It is possible if there are no other options but almost any kind of weapon would be far better. Thank you Skall.
I think with gauntlets only you should go into the typical boxing block position, with both hands together. The only chance I see is to wait for you opponents attack, pari the sword with fist and arm and go into your opponents space to attack his head with your armed fist. Probably you will get some serious cuts, but you have a chance to end the fight quickly.
@@xxx_rotfd_xiii_xii3619 lmao do you think those nylon swords don't break bones on a good hit? Those are not larp foam weapons, those "wasters" are training weapons meaning they hurt a lot if they hit you and if you do a real strike to a person it will break bones.
There was a Monk player in one of my old 3.5 campaigns who specialized in grappling. The grappling rules really aren't as bad as they've been memed to be, they just take quite a bit of getting used to. It's mostly just that grappling is _usually_ a suboptimal choice unless you've specifically built the character for it.
Find someone who trusts you as much as Cara trusts Skall when he demonstrates all the ways he could kill his opponent and she doesn't even blink, let alone flinch.
since we're on the topic of hands vs swords. what about hand extensions? as in fist-weapons/claw shaped weapons? Edit: for clarification: the indian katar but with a buckler over your knuckles is what i had in mind
Well, there is some evidence. The shuko was used as a means of blocking katana, but that looks risky and dangerous to pull off. Wolverine claws are probably no good, as the sword would just slide off the blades into your hand/knuckles. However, I would like to bring up the sword breaker in maria the virgin witch. I haven't been able to find anything similar to it but I don't think making something like that would be too hard. Its just a bracer with spikes on it.
@@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 I should be a bit more specific. In an anime called Maria the virgin witch (which skall has done a video on.) someone used a sort of spiked gauntlet designed to block a sword. I have seen shadiversitys video on sword breaker, but i've never seen a sword breaking gauntlet/bracer.
Practitioner of buhurt here. We are discouraged from blocking with our gauntlets because axes can really break your hand if thrown with enough force. However, pushing or parrying is still viable. We often punch in the sport. In fact that’s my style, I use a buckler and spiked gauntlets to get in close and box.
hey man sorry to comment on an old ass post but do you have any tips at all on pseudo-unarmed vs weapon combat? Like you described, vambraces and gauntlets and a buckler. It's for a character I'm working on and I'm trying to make it realistic.
@@tlb963 No worries. I don't practice currently unfortunately but from my experience if you are gonna fight without a weapon then you want to be well protected, especially on the arms. Blocking with the buckler and punching with it are both viable and encouraged, gauntlet punching is last ditch effort. The way I saw it was to close the distance after an opponent swings and grab their weapon using takedown techniques. Now of course, you can get by blocking light weapons with the gauntlets but you'll find it isn't rewarding unless you're out of options. Blocking with the vambrace hurts too. I missed a parry once by moving too late and took an axe full force on my forearm. It was fine but I was reeling. Anything else specifically you curious about?
@@counterblast3885 are there any specific styles of martial arts you'd suggest implementing for the character? This is a low fantasy environment so his strength, durability, and explosiveness are very high. I'm big into MMA and martial arts but haven't incorporated weapons and armor into it (obviously) so no need to explain any styles to me; just any techniques or skills from say, muay Thai or Greco Roman or what have you.
In defense of D&D monks, most will carry something like a staff or short-sword with them. One could argue that monks will usually attack with their weapon first and when they go for an unarmed strike, they still have their weapon out as a defensive measure.
@@Likexner yeah cause magic makes perfect sense, let me just smash some bat poop and sulfur together in my hands mumble some words and create an explosion out of thin air, but fighting without a weapon is crazy.
I always look at monks as being sort of innately magical warriors in a way, they don't sling spells but that tap into some form of inner magic (the PHB calls it Ki but it can be whatever), they can survive falling great distances, catch projectiles, run on water, jump incredibly far and high, punch ghosts etc... (that isn't even including sub-class stuff). if I play a character wearing plate armor or using a shield any time an enemy hits or misses me with an attack it will involve being blocked by the shield or glancing off the armor or finding gaps in it, a monk is more all or nothing they either miss entirely or they just get hit, I usually narrate hits as being lessened by blocking with bracers, clothing etc... So it makes sense why you can keep fighting and didn't get impaled or whatever. as for landing strikes, you're a monk, you're fast as hell and can dodge sword swings throw some neck chops, groin hits, headbutts and eye gouges in the middle of all that epic dodging. In real life you're fucked, the sword wins every time, but once you start talking fantasy like DnD there are so many things that could explain why it works, but most people just accept it because it's cool, nobody puts that much thought into how a person with a 4 foot sword killed a 500 foot long dragon it just happens because it's cool.
Also in defense of D&D Monks, their fists are counted as magical weapons. They can probably block normal swords with their bare hands. I mean, they can block arrows...
If I had lost my sword and was limited to hand-to-hand, I'm just charging the dude. I've never fought with a sword, but I've done bayonet training and dropped my stick on several occasions. Each time, I just "fuck it"and rushed. Yes, everytime I did that I got stabbed. Even when I wrestled a dude to the ground he still managed to stab me. Still better than just doing nothing and getting stabbed anyway.
I was doing a little non-lethal bayonet fencing with a re-enactor friend (side note: DO NOT DO THIS!) and we came to the conclusion that if you can get past the bayonet of a G98, you can control the rifle and grapple or knife the other guy. Even money getting stabbed getting through.
@@jamesharding3459 In the Marines we're taught how to control our rifles when someone tries to get past the stabby bit or grab the weapon itself. If your opponent paid attention during MCMAP and other such training, you're fucked. As I was.
When you are talking about the DnD Monk you have to take into consideration that the DnD monk is not just relying on his pure physical body. He is in fact reinforcing his body with magic and that allows him, among other things, to move way faster than his opponent and also to reinforce his skin so that a mere glancing blow doesn't do any damage to him.
@@TheSteam02 Way of the Four Elements does say the character casts a spell (and spells are magic), so the ki wouldn’t be magic, but the spell produced by the ki would be.
As a guy who tends to have a mass advantage and willingness and ability to get beat on for advantage, grappeling is what I want. Especially since I can make my opponent gas out easier up close rather than keeping up with the back and forth of prepare, footwork, parry, riposte, footwork, attack, footwork away, and now I'm panting😅 TL;DR I need to do more cardio🤣
Coming back to this I was reminded of a scene that you can stumble upon in Skyrim. If you hang around the Companion's longhouse, you can sometimes spot a conversation between a warrior that uses a pair of short weapons and another that uses a greatsword. The warrior that uses shorter weapons is bragging about the things he could do with the speed of his small weapons. To which the greatsword user says that all of that is worthless if he gets killed by a single strike from a longer weapon.
Previously we end things rightly by throwing the Pommel Skal has ascended and ending things rightly by throwing his Gauntlet. Look how far we have progressed throughout the years.
Great video. - That was a methodical explanation on an apparently unimportant topic. People usually think gauntlets are literally full metal gloves, so, theoretically, you could "grab" your opponent's blade while closing in to attack him or her. Besides you would still have to be fast enough to predict where the strike was coming from. - 4:44 By the way, she DID anticipate where most of your attacks were coming from. - What a fantastic landscape you got in the background for a video like this.
1. I love the practical examples of all the once-was-theoretical stuff you're describing. You illustrate your point very well. 2. You shoot in some really beautiful scenery. 3. That really is a cool T-shirt.
Bigger chance than without gauntlets I guess, especially if you can deflect the blade and get inside the swords reach to grapple and/or just smash the other guys face in.
I wouldn't even risk deflecting it. dodge as best you can, throw sand in their face, kick them, grab their sword arm. it's gotta be some dirty fighting unarmed against a sword.
@@Wartooth91 Grabbing is a good idea, kicking - not so much, less leeway for dodges and everything. Just smash their face in, even against armor it could be good enough if you have any kind of physical strength.
That Dark Souls "You Died" really caught me off guard lmao. It's neat to see this broken down, and I'm glad you brought up the arm guards, cause that's what I usually imagined could at least assist in blocking/deflecting/sliding off a weapon. Definitely fun to watch lol
Funny that I just played Samurai Warriors 5 and found Yasuke uses gauntlet in that game, and then this video exists. Aside from fantasy's rule of coolness, I do want to know if it's actually legit to survive sword fight with just a gauntlet especially in a dire situation where escape is impossible. Btw, "parry real estate" is a good choice of word. XD
I mean, it's better than a bare hand, but you saw, a gauntlet isn't a full metal glove, you can't just grab the blade and yank it away from your opponent.
@@fatwheat1 do you know of any historical examples of those? My understanding is that a leather glove is the typical palm-covering. Easier to hold a sword, I'd imagine.
@@TheodoreMinick jousting gauntlets were typically sealed gauntlets with a hole in the middle to protect the hand entirely but obviously you wouldnt use that in war.
I love this video! Thanks, Skall! Also, great sponsor. I always interpreted that kind of character, that go urnarmed against armed opponents and manage to win, as following the specific ruleset that, in that universe, training unarmed arts made people become, on average, stronger and quicker than those that trained with weapons, following the logic that they relied more on their own bodies than the weapon-users. That mad it possible, although very hard, for unarmed fighters, especially if they used armor as you described, to beat weapon users. There can be various other reasons and they are wholly unnaplicable in real life, of course, but I like the idea as to enable more fighting styles and diversity in semi realistic/low fantasy settings.
I think you run into some conceptual problems... if the vambrace is large enough to be comparable in surface area to a shield, it's going to be heavy as fuck and there would have to be designed so you could rest your arms at your side without the flared lip pressing into your hips/thighs/side (so you need to put ergonomics before protection in design), you can't easily drop them if they get stuck on something and pin you in place for a moment, you can't easily turn them edge-on to an attacker and strike... there's basically no advantage provided by "big arm/hand armor" that is *not* also provided by a shield and there are several accompanying disadvantages (shorter reach, less blocking area, less maneuverability, etc)
14:40 if you are a monk and want to fight a swordsman bear-handed, you have to multiclass druid and transform into kung-fu panda, maybe then it's possible
If you're a monk in D+D, your fists count as magical weapons at level six. Monks also have unarmored defense, which makes them surprisingly tanky, despite the lack of armor.
it will work if you get the perk "Fists of steel", get the gloves of pugilist, destroy it to learn the enchantment, learn smithing to inprove the gauntlet, infuse it the enchantment and Boom you will be unstoppable with the Gauntlets!
I’ve have a couple cuts in the centre of my Castile Longsword where I’ve parries between my hands on the extra long grip… Also, I’ve been saved by hits directly to the pommel, and even one hit exactly on the tip of the quillion, that was so exact that it didn’t even skip-off! 😬⚔️😂
@@kindlingking actually yes. Parrying shields have the most. Followed by fist weapons and parrying dagger and small shields on third place but that wouldnt fit the joke
I want to preface this statement by acknowledging that you were talking about D&D monk-style unarmed combat, which makes sense as you describe it. However, I personally would think that wearing gauntlets would be better than nothing at all, not because you would hit harder, but because if you are wearing gauntlets, you are likely also wearing other armor and perhaps even plate armor, which would hopefully allow you to get in closer than you would otherwise. I have no personal experience with the subject other than these videos, so I don't know what I'm talking about and you should take all of this with salt, but that thought crossed my mind while I was watching. Great video, cheers!
This is why kensei is my favorite way to do D&D monks: they absolutely can fight unarmed, but they're better off with the weapons they've chosen to put in a lot of training time with, possibly mixing in some unarmed strikes as opportunity allows. Y'know, like what makes sense.
I just wish Kensei wasn’t reliant on either using a bow or forcing you to use one of your two main attacks on an unarmed attack. So much for a weapon monk…
@@joefollo4891 Eh, that option's there if you need or want to play more defensively, but there are plenty of abilities where you benefit from attacking multiple times with your weapon to go for other benefits. Deft strike and sharpen the blade give you better potential damage output, and at high levels unerring accuracy only benefits your weapons, not your unarmed strikes.
@@TrueTgirl For a whole subclass, 1 ki for minor extra damage and one good feature at lvl 17 is pretty lackluster for a new play style. A significant portion of Kensei’s stuff is invalid if you’re in melee and want to use a magic weapon.
@@CronyneWARE While I appreciate the offer, I believe that Mercy and Ascending Dragon monk can be really fun with weapons using Tasha’s dedicated weapon and proficiency swap variant rule. So long as I can use my action for 2 weapon attacks and still get a variety of features, I’m easily satisfied.
I don't need sleep, I need more Skall videos! I really liked the concept of this video, very fun and thought provoking. I hope you can make some other interesting videos on others non conventional fighting techniques
Your girl seems so happy the whole time! Idk if it’s because she loves hearing you speak your wisdom or if she’s thinking of all the ways she could annihilate you.
I mean the monks in dnd and similar system have magic hands that are stronger then steel depending on level so they should actually be able to catch a sword, since it wouldn't really be able to cut their hands as long as they have ki.
If you saw skalls video about armor effectiveness armor doesnt completely negate damage. You still take a lot of blunt damage even from swords with armor. For example ppl get knocked out with enough blows to the head with a helmet on.
Armor is ment to suppress that and normally, by my knowledge, you wear some type of padding underneath armor, the padding with soften the hit, also most fights don't last long.
The 16th century Irish were known (textually and it also shows up in art) for using a single gauntlet on the left arm as parrying devise. Sometimes the gauntlet is part of a full arm harness. The earliest record I could find is an English text of 1515 asking for the army of Dublin to equip a left hand gauntlet is they didn't have access to a full plate harness or choose to use a hauberk (as was custom in Ireland). Sadly I don't know if it was done before.
somehow all of this overanalyzing and explaining just strengthens the D&D monk fantasy it's half the reasons I watch this channel. "it's obviously impractical, but how impractical is it?" the more impractical the cooler my monk breaking swords with his bare fists is going to feel also, wise old man odin beats "le metal winged helmet odin" every day of the week. Huginn and Muninn are my favorite experimental assault drones
Relevant anecdote: In a buhurt duel I once deflected my opponents sword with a gauntlet almost identical to yours, the sword glanced off the knuckle and hit the thumb, busted the thumb rivet off like it wasn't even there, and gave me a swollen thumb joint. I won't be trying that again.
12:21 My friend once did this to me. We were in sparring, he dual wielded a dagger and a sword, I bastard sword. He somehow lost his sword, so he threw his dagger at me, I parried it and saw how he is taking his mail gauntlet off. I knew he's gonna throw it at me, but I didn't expect he's gonna hit my balls. The fight was obviously over xD
In full suit i would say it basically is a skinnier buckler if you are using a fully armored hand and forearm. The problem then is dealing with risky impacts, as well as redirection into your joints. But im an anateur so this is just a shot at the dark.
When you mentioned using stick in hand with buckler, that's Chinese Gou rang, but maybe even better, that makes more sense cuz if u have wooden stick attached to buckler sword could dig in, stuck and you could control it, just like Viking shields
skall, as a semi-professional street-fighter, i guess where ever angle of your sword was gonna go in the section at around 5:00 the reason i could do this is because your eyes are an immediate tell, you look where you're about to swing a second or two before you swing, you do this as you judge how you do it. something you could do to improve your technique and make you more difficult to fight is you could hold eye contact with your opponent at all times and learn to make your swings without needing to judge distance and all that. if you could learn that one simple thing, you would become a formidable opponent to spar. learning how to read that tell will also make you more effective at parrying, and if you ever got into a street fight you might actually be able to catch your opponent's fists as i have had done to me multiple times before i learned to focus on making eye contact.
@@theguy5054 a good strike with a stave can stove in ribcages. I don't care how much of chad you are, you can't fight with a pierced lung and broken heart
Skall trying to explain things and i´m just captivated by the beautiful background landscape. Oh my god, Skall, i just realise, are you the reason Shad began with that whole "THE STICK" thing?
Feels like the answer to "could it work?" was avoided. Just talking, why it's bad. My expectation was more: What would you do in a situation, where you have to fight with gauntlets versus a sword. I don't think, anybody would deliberately fight with gauntlets only.
It COULD work, but you'd need a thick vambrace as well for active parrying, but it would still be inferior to a sword, so you'd only do it if you had some special training in a style. At which point it works like any short weapon vs long weapon, hope you get an opening and grapple.
The best point is that its harder to close in with your fists. The reach disadvantage is real. COUNTERING looks quite possible though with a full arm guard. So you'd need to fight defensively, moving away and out, and circling, and then wait for the counter (probably kicking, and trying to trip) And if your opponent is slower, (is wearing plate armor for example) you could use that to your advantage. You'd certainly be at the disadvantage, but there are strategies to help you have a chance. I would personally look for a clinch counter, so, use feints to get you to do all those little flicking moves, so that you start to push in, retreat initially, and then push in upon opportunity to get a grip and then move in. The problem there though, is if you break the grip and spin slash out, so you'd need a good grip on the hip etc to really wedge you in, so it would be safe to drive you down. That is 5 layers deeper in strategy than you want to be in a fight though, haha. In a world with magic though, I suppose a monk would just use some form of ki to harden their skin, and use the mobility to be more evasive and to penetrate the position faster. I once used wrestling against a two time world champion boxer and kickboxer, and I went in with bare hands, and him with gloves. And I destroyed him in less than 20 seconds every time because his gloves were heavier, and so I could flick my hand five times to his one, so my defense was simpler, allowing me to get in deep into the clinch, and without gloves in the clinch you have more options, and with gripping it disables a person with gloves (which is why it is against the rules in actual boxing). And yeah I just did a takedown. Now, presumably the opponent SHOULD know how to defend a takedown, and if so would NEVER be taken down in less than 20 seconds, BUT my point is that when you have something that SLOWS your movement by any amount, it does impose some disadvantage. So in a magical world, it could balance out by having just enough armor defense, so that your armor disadvantage is equal to their speed disadvantage. If you have a critical armor weakness though, rather than just a disadvantage... Then yeah, you are totally boned. I think if you had good gambeson, and nice thick gloves, and vambraces, and maybe some throwables you could do something. But in the real world, all that slows you down, and I feel like its not balanced enough to make any sense. Even using kicks and sweeps... nah nah... cuz you can only really fight defensively, and for a BIG counter move. You CAN'T risk getting a well leveraged sharp metal object whacking you. YOU CAN defend though. I know this from real experience with knives and bottles and pool cues (from security work), you just use footwork. Also if you have a shield of any kind you can use this to set up your counter defense, a common one I used was a backpack, or a stool, any sizeable enough object that smothers the blow. I ONCE used my forearm to block a pool cue. I moved IN on it attempting to get it just between his grip. He was NOT trained though, so he got scared and dropped it cuz I was coming in with a flying knee as the next move. Anywho... Knives are easily avoided with a backpack and footwork (and wrist break techniques... super crucial as they try to grab you, and 90% of fatalities are from them gripping and stabbing multiple times). Well, not easily... you need EXCEPTIONAL footwork. All this said. Reach is king, and just straight up, having no reach is a disadvantage to your ability to attack. Puts all of the stress of your fighting style on your footwork, cuz if you can't get in, you are not doing damage.
The whole proposition of armor is to DEFLECT attacks one cannot evade, or parry/block with a weapon or shield of some kind. Of course, it helps that armor that protects one's vitals be thicker. But if you're going to use it against weapons, then don't block with it! DEFLECT with it. You have to hit the incoming attack from the weak side, not meet it directly. Otherwise, though the armor may not be breached, the underlying flesh will get damaged. Even a broken bone is possible in that situation.
Throwing gauntlets: End Him Righty and End Him Lefty
You made me laugh. Nice one.
Good one.
You win.
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Dual-wielding bucklers vs a sword
He did a video on double shields already! Search his channel for "Dual Wielding Shields?"
Buckler and shield is the only true combo (/j just in case)
this is too OP, need nerf in next patch
How about two handed dueling shield vs sword? I don't think he has done a video on that yet.
I think they already did that in one of the pre-series clone wars cartoons
So what you're saying is: gauntlets against a sword are completely viable. As long as those gauntlets also hold a sword.
or a stick and a buckler :P
Or if, you use the gauntlet like a pommel 12:24
@@Sparrowcus1 Been a while since I've seen a reference to using a pommel to end someone rightly.
i think what he means is that anything is better than showing up in your birthday suit.
Sword-gauntlets!
It seems like swords beat fist anyday at this point why not give the monk a staff with metal reinforced ends on it to smack people around with.
That's the idea behind monks getting proficiency with quarterstaff
Or a shovel.
@@StarshadowMelody to dig his own grave
@@dracanisobsidian1613 You got me there. XD
Because people like the fantasy of going all kung fu on brigands? I mean shit, by that logic dnd would be exclusively people throwing artificer spells (which don't require you to be a mage to use them) at all opponents, not to mention the war crimes one could perform with bags of holding. Yes, yes, it's easy to pick nits at fantasy worlds but if your biggest gripe about lack of realism or pragmatism is the magical punch rogues then you are seriously missing the forest for the trees. I mean, they add their wisdom to their AC. Why? How would in reality being street smart or perceptive help hits not land on you? How does the same skill that helps you figure out if you're being lied to better help avoiding damage just as much as the skill that makes you more quick-footed and flexible? Why would wearing armor make barbarians (whose unarmored defense scales off constitution which implies they have the thick skin to shrug off blows) lose their con mod bonus to AC? And these are literally off the top of my head. And the answer is simple:the game tries to be at least somewhat balanced while selling a fantasy. And some people don't wanna sword or sorcery. Some people just wanna fist. And while discussing the real-life potential of martial arts against weapons is a fun pastime, you're just being a grand ol' stick in the mud.
So to answer your question in a tl:dr fashion: because people pick monk because they think punching would be far more fun than a sword or magic. It's that simple, and realism was never a concern.
Also monk weapon proficiency is just a crutch for early game. Not everyone likes dealing d4s all the time.
I'm liking this new genre. The 1st person view shows your point easily across since we actually see it from the opponents view & vice versa.
Maybe more outside- the- box techniques next time like you did with your sword- catching vid & this one.
Coupled with the background and booty shot the whole set up was rather striking.. pun not originally intended. =/
Yes, the first person view at eye level, really makes it obvious I wouldn't want to oppose you in a sword fight. There was a couple moments when your focus and seriousness to showcase the movements quite menacing. Well done. Go Ontario and Flush The Turd on the 20th.
"That's not what you want, unless it's what you want" ~Skall about grappling
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I like that your partner was smiling the entire time while you were trying to kill her.
It's kinda their kink, yeah. Goes both ways as well (remember whips?)
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It’s just foreplay for them
@@sebathadah1559 same thing?
Did you know thers a quest in AC vallhala where you need to burn down a house of couple to get the to do it... same thing oonly with less property damage. 🤪
I was one of the people who asked about this on a recent stream. I am very satisfied with Skall's take on it. It is possible if there are no other options but almost any kind of weapon would be far better.
Thank you Skall.
You're welcome. :)
indeed. it's almost like, weapons are beneficial in combat.
@@overlorddante but fists are much more badass.
@@buffoonustroglodytus4688 Yeah! Hand to hand! It is the basis of all combat! Only a fool trusts hisblife to a weapon!!!
@@linkskywalker5417 gannondorf and vader just getting punched in the dick during their big showdowns by link skywalker
Can we rename taking off and throwing your gauntlet mid fight to "Slapping them rightly"?
Ending them gauntly.
@@normang3668 you got my vote!
and my bow!
We need to add this to a manuscript for future generations!
I think with gauntlets only you should go into the typical boxing block position, with both hands together. The only chance I see is to wait for you opponents attack, pari the sword with fist and arm and go into your opponents space to attack his head with your armed fist. Probably you will get some serious cuts, but you have a chance to end the fight quickly.
Skall: *Gets his ass handed to him*
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Skall looks like a pirate captain
are you not entertained? - some guy in a stadium
I am always impressed by how Kara stands fearlessly as Skal pretends to attack. Clearly there is a lot of trust in his skills.
She’s only using 2% of her power.
You can almost see her counting all the things Skall will have to do to pay off her presence in the vid every time her gets her to do something.
lmao do u think they are using real weapons?
@@xxx_rotfd_xiii_xii3619 lmao do you think those nylon swords don't break bones on a good hit? Those are not larp foam weapons, those "wasters" are training weapons meaning they hurt a lot if they hit you and if you do a real strike to a person it will break bones.
@@_aullik maybe if u are weak sperm your bones will break from toy weapons
"Two gauntlets worth of parrying real estate" sounds like a cool thing to have.
I absolutely agree
"We would definitely be grappling, and that's definitely not what you want"
Because no one wants to deal with grappling rules
Fookin Rogues
Did a grappler fighter in 3.5 in a one shot made the game drag on for hours never again
There was a Monk player in one of my old 3.5 campaigns who specialized in grappling. The grappling rules really aren't as bad as they've been memed to be, they just take quite a bit of getting used to. It's mostly just that grappling is _usually_ a suboptimal choice unless you've specifically built the character for it.
@@arcticbanana66 We still play 3.5e and our wizard managed to grapple an enemy sorcer and drown him with a decanter of endless water. It was awesome.
@@graywolfdracon Gotta love it when things like that work out.
"Parrying real estate"
Hit boxes Skall. You're measuring your hit boxes lol.
Omg that's right lmao
See, see big stick energy, it even works with gauntlets...Where's shad? Somebody get Shad in on this!
YOU CAN HAVE STICK TOO!
Next underappreciated historical armor : The Big Stick Energy and Buckler Combo
@Skibidoop *no.*
@Skibidoop wrong shad
@Skibidoop chad shad
Find someone who trusts you as much as Cara trusts Skall when he demonstrates all the ways he could kill his opponent and she doesn't even blink, let alone flinch.
since we're on the topic of hands vs swords. what about hand extensions? as in fist-weapons/claw shaped weapons?
Edit: for clarification: the indian katar but with a buckler over your knuckles is what i had in mind
>fist weapons
You mean gauntlets?
Well, there is some evidence. The shuko was used as a means of blocking katana, but that looks risky and dangerous to pull off. Wolverine claws are probably no good, as the sword would just slide off the blades into your hand/knuckles. However, I would like to bring up the sword breaker in maria the virgin witch. I haven't been able to find anything similar to it but I don't think making something like that would be too hard. Its just a bracer with spikes on it.
@@Jacky_boy001 shadiversity has a video on swordbreakers
@@Jacky_boy001 there is the Pata. I definitely would like to get a sword breaker. Those daggers are awesome.
@@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 I should be a bit more specific. In an anime called Maria the virgin witch (which skall has done a video on.) someone used a sort of spiked gauntlet designed to block a sword. I have seen shadiversitys video on sword breaker, but i've never seen a sword breaking gauntlet/bracer.
Practitioner of buhurt here. We are discouraged from blocking with our gauntlets because axes can really break your hand if thrown with enough force. However, pushing or parrying is still viable. We often punch in the sport. In fact that’s my style, I use a buckler and spiked gauntlets to get in close and box.
I thought you cannot punch in buhurt without a weapon in hand?
@@junichiroyamashita well I did forget to mention i do have a mace in hand, but i only use it as a grappling tool.
hey man sorry to comment on an old ass post but do you have any tips at all on pseudo-unarmed vs weapon combat? Like you described, vambraces and gauntlets and a buckler. It's for a character I'm working on and I'm trying to make it realistic.
@@tlb963 No worries. I don't practice currently unfortunately but from my experience if you are gonna fight without a weapon then you want to be well protected, especially on the arms. Blocking with the buckler and punching with it are both viable and encouraged, gauntlet punching is last ditch effort. The way I saw it was to close the distance after an opponent swings and grab their weapon using takedown techniques. Now of course, you can get by blocking light weapons with the gauntlets but you'll find it isn't rewarding unless you're out of options. Blocking with the vambrace hurts too. I missed a parry once by moving too late and took an axe full force on my forearm. It was fine but I was reeling. Anything else specifically you curious about?
@@counterblast3885 are there any specific styles of martial arts you'd suggest implementing for the character? This is a low fantasy environment so his strength, durability, and explosiveness are very high. I'm big into MMA and martial arts but haven't incorporated weapons and armor into it (obviously) so no need to explain any styles to me; just any techniques or skills from say, muay Thai or Greco Roman or what have you.
"I fight wearing only gauntlets because the world isn't ready to see me at my full power."
*looks over to big stick in corner of the room.
Goku wants to see him at full power...
Hope that big stick is a mop, for later use.
In defense of D&D monks, most will carry something like a staff or short-sword with them. One could argue that monks will usually attack with their weapon first and when they go for an unarmed strike, they still have their weapon out as a defensive measure.
Nevertheless, the concept of a class that _prefers_ unarmed fighting over using weapons simply doesnt make sense.
@@Likexner yeah cause magic makes perfect sense, let me just smash some bat poop and sulfur together in my hands mumble some words and create an explosion out of thin air, but fighting without a weapon is crazy.
I always look at monks as being sort of innately magical warriors in a way, they don't sling spells but that tap into some form of inner magic (the PHB calls it Ki but it can be whatever), they can survive falling great distances, catch projectiles, run on water, jump incredibly far and high, punch ghosts etc... (that isn't even including sub-class stuff).
if I play a character wearing plate armor or using a shield any time an enemy hits or misses me with an attack it will involve being blocked by the shield or glancing off the armor or finding gaps in it, a monk is more all or nothing they either miss entirely or they just get hit, I usually narrate hits as being lessened by blocking with bracers, clothing etc... So it makes sense why you can keep fighting and didn't get impaled or whatever.
as for landing strikes, you're a monk, you're fast as hell and can dodge sword swings throw some neck chops, groin hits, headbutts and eye gouges in the middle of all that epic dodging.
In real life you're fucked, the sword wins every time, but once you start talking fantasy like DnD there are so many things that could explain why it works, but most people just accept it because it's cool, nobody puts that much thought into how a person with a 4 foot sword killed a 500 foot long dragon it just happens because it's cool.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 Wish I put "Inb4 Tu Quoque" before you posted
Also in defense of D&D Monks, their fists are counted as magical weapons. They can probably block normal swords with their bare hands. I mean, they can block arrows...
If I had lost my sword and was limited to hand-to-hand, I'm just charging the dude. I've never fought with a sword, but I've done bayonet training and dropped my stick on several occasions. Each time, I just "fuck it"and rushed. Yes, everytime I did that I got stabbed. Even when I wrestled a dude to the ground he still managed to stab me. Still better than just doing nothing and getting stabbed anyway.
I was doing a little non-lethal bayonet fencing with a re-enactor friend (side note: DO NOT DO THIS!) and we came to the conclusion that if you can get past the bayonet of a G98, you can control the rifle and grapple or knife the other guy. Even money getting stabbed getting through.
@@jamesharding3459 In the Marines we're taught how to control our rifles when someone tries to get past the stabby bit or grab the weapon itself. If your opponent paid attention during MCMAP and other such training, you're fucked. As I was.
@@ottovonbismarck7646 Keeping control of a meter-long carbine is rather different than a 2-meter rifle with another 40cm of bayonet on the end.
"Still better than just doing nothing and getting stabbed anyway."
I agree.
When you are talking about the DnD Monk you have to take into consideration that the DnD monk is not just relying on his pure physical body. He is in fact reinforcing his body with magic and that allows him, among other things, to move way faster than his opponent and also to reinforce his skin so that a mere glancing blow doesn't do any damage to him.
Ki is not magic
@@i__am__fish7662 It kinda is. Especially when you consider things like Sun Soul or 4 Elements.
What i'm getting from the video is that my monk needs to dual-wield bucklers
@@i__am__fish7662 yes it iiiis
@@TheSteam02 Way of the Four Elements does say the character casts a spell (and spells are magic), so the ki wouldn’t be magic, but the spell produced by the ki would be.
As a guy who tends to have a mass advantage and willingness and ability to get beat on for advantage, grappeling is what I want. Especially since I can make my opponent gas out easier up close rather than keeping up with the back and forth of prepare, footwork, parry, riposte, footwork, attack, footwork away, and now I'm panting😅
TL;DR I need to do more cardio🤣
Coming back to this I was reminded of a scene that you can stumble upon in Skyrim. If you hang around the Companion's longhouse, you can sometimes spot a conversation between a warrior that uses a pair of short weapons and another that uses a greatsword. The warrior that uses shorter weapons is bragging about the things he could do with the speed of his small weapons. To which the greatsword user says that all of that is worthless if he gets killed by a single strike from a longer weapon.
Previously we end things rightly by throwing the Pommel
Skal has ascended and ending things rightly by throwing his Gauntlet.
Look how far we have progressed throughout the years.
Wherever you're filming at looks fantastic! Love the content!
Cara's the coolest.
@@smeagolstoor3324 Why do you expect people to just magically know that? I didn't until now. Don't be an dick.
@@kshadehyaena Don’t be an fake fan
@@smeagolstoor3324 bruh
Great video.
- That was a methodical explanation on an apparently unimportant topic. People usually think gauntlets are literally full metal gloves, so, theoretically, you could "grab" your opponent's blade while closing in to attack him or her.
Besides you would still have to be fast enough to predict where the strike was coming from.
- 4:44 By the way, she DID anticipate where most of your attacks were coming from.
- What a fantastic landscape you got in the background for a video like this.
THE GLORIOUS STICK, MASTER OF BOTH OFFENSE AND DEFENSE! I'm sure Shad would approve!
I love stick.
Gotta say, that gorgeous scenery just works really well with HEMA videos.
The secret gauntlet throwing technique is the pinnacle of martial arts on pair with pummel throwing and quarterstaff-staff.
It's basically a medieval rocket-punch.
Somewhere out there Shad has an enormous grin on his face for when Skall brought out and mentioned the merits of Stick.
I don’t care how dumb it is, I will never stop writing bare fisted characters.
Love the backdrop to this video Skall, really nice.
I can literally hear Shad say "STICK!!!"
Shad and his big stick energy are so powerful they invade other people’s videos
Sometimes I think Shad wakes up in a cold sweat and just mutters "stick."
@@calebricks4890 Which is how you can tell he's sexually repressed.
1. I love the practical examples of all the once-was-theoretical stuff you're describing. You illustrate your point very well.
2. You shoot in some really beautiful scenery.
3. That really is a cool T-shirt.
How to fight a sword with a gauntlet:
Step 1:Draw your own sword.
Step 2: Fight!
For some reason I interpreted Draw as like, art drawing.
how to fight a sword with a gauntlet p2:
step 1: turn around
step 2 run
@@Chhangte2006 what about throw your gauntlets to the opponent first? XD
@@GiordanoFanti ah yes, the classic rocket fist technique
@@GiordanoFanti That's just an invitation to fight ...
Thanks for taking us out, the background scenery is beautiful. Especially since many of us are stuck in city and pandemic movement restrictions
Bigger chance than without gauntlets I guess, especially if you can deflect the blade and get inside the swords reach to grapple and/or just smash the other guys face in.
I wouldn't even risk deflecting it. dodge as best you can, throw sand in their face, kick them, grab their sword arm. it's gotta be some dirty fighting unarmed against a sword.
@Google "Dancing Israelis"
Now they're mad and I have no gauntlet 😂
@@Wartooth91
Sure, if the swordfighter just throws a wild cut.
@@Wartooth91 Grabbing is a good idea, kicking - not so much, less leeway for dodges and everything. Just smash their face in, even against armor it could be good enough if you have any kind of physical strength.
@@rosefeather_ gauntlet vs any closed helmet==helmet wins.
That Dark Souls "You Died" really caught me off guard lmao.
It's neat to see this broken down, and I'm glad you brought up the arm guards, cause that's what I usually imagined could at least assist in blocking/deflecting/sliding off a weapon. Definitely fun to watch lol
Funny that I just played Samurai Warriors 5 and found Yasuke uses gauntlet in that game, and then this video exists.
Aside from fantasy's rule of coolness, I do want to know if it's actually legit to survive sword fight with just a gauntlet especially in a dire situation where escape is impossible.
Btw, "parry real estate" is a good choice of word. XD
I mean, it's better than a bare hand, but you saw, a gauntlet isn't a full metal glove, you can't just grab the blade and yank it away from your opponent.
@@TheodoreMinick what about a plated gauntlet with chainmail in the inside?
@@fatwheat1 do you know of any historical examples of those? My understanding is that a leather glove is the typical palm-covering. Easier to hold a sword, I'd imagine.
@@TheodoreMinick jousting gauntlets were typically sealed gauntlets with a hole in the middle to protect the hand entirely but obviously you wouldnt use that in war.
I love this video! Thanks, Skall! Also, great sponsor.
I always interpreted that kind of character, that go urnarmed against armed opponents and manage to win, as following the specific ruleset that, in that universe, training unarmed arts made people become, on average, stronger and quicker than those that trained with weapons, following the logic that they relied more on their own bodies than the weapon-users. That mad it possible, although very hard, for unarmed fighters, especially if they used armor as you described, to beat weapon users.
There can be various other reasons and they are wholly unnaplicable in real life, of course, but I like the idea as to enable more fighting styles and diversity in semi realistic/low fantasy settings.
what if you had a flared vambrace? it would give more coverage. something akin to mixing a target shield and a katar?
I think you run into some conceptual problems... if the vambrace is large enough to be comparable in surface area to a shield, it's going to be heavy as fuck and there would have to be designed so you could rest your arms at your side without the flared lip pressing into your hips/thighs/side (so you need to put ergonomics before protection in design), you can't easily drop them if they get stuck on something and pin you in place for a moment, you can't easily turn them edge-on to an attacker and strike... there's basically no advantage provided by "big arm/hand armor" that is *not* also provided by a shield and there are several accompanying disadvantages (shorter reach, less blocking area, less maneuverability, etc)
One thing I love about your videos is I find myself asking out loud "But what if-" And you answer before I am even done asking it
Yes Skall. All of this, this is what you are great at. It’s like a thought experiment but with visual aids and non biased thinking. I love it.
Very cool! Loving the go pro POV to help visualise the difficulty of anticipating angles of attack. Beautiful backdrop too.
14:40 if you are a monk and want to fight a swordsman bear-handed, you have to multiclass druid and transform into kung-fu panda, maybe then it's possible
If you're a monk in D+D, your fists count as magical weapons at level six. Monks also have unarmored defense, which makes them surprisingly tanky, despite the lack of armor.
@@gaelangaudette9576 It's all for the bear joke, dude. Relax ;)
11:29 This part reminded me of other videos where you put a part on loop + reverse with some music ahah, seemed like such a typical moment for it
it will work if you get the perk "Fists of steel", get the gloves of pugilist, destroy it to learn the enchantment, learn smithing to inprove the gauntlet, infuse it the enchantment and Boom you will be unstoppable with the Gauntlets!
Reminds me watching one of Spiffing Brits' Skyrim video.
Then you would be the Iron Fist.
Ymfah: Beating Skyrim, Fists Only
And dont forget that Kajit get extra 15 unarmed damage
And then a companion with a Giant's Club wacks some reality back into your skull.
4:42 soo cool to see from that angle. Couldn’t guess where the strike would come from. Such an interesting video!!
Skallagrim is the yarle of these lands and we love him
Great video! I really appreciate the well-done time stamps
I feel like someone using only gauntlets and vanbraces are definitely going for grappling and controlling your out of measure sword or spear
Just have not to die until they can get their grabby hands at you
Or until they just stab you in the legs
Got to say man. I absolutely love the scenery that you are using to film these videos.
I’ve have a couple cuts in the centre of my Castile Longsword where I’ve parries between my hands on the extra long grip… Also, I’ve been saved by hits directly to the pommel, and even one hit exactly on the tip of the quillion, that was so exact that it didn’t even skip-off! 😬⚔️😂
Edutainment is what's expected, and delivered!
Every dark souls veteran knows that caestus have the most parry frames
Which apparently is absolutely bullshit lmao
Guess dark souls 1 was more accurate at that
Really? I thought small shields (and especially parrying shields) generally had more active parry frames in all 3 parts of dark souls.
@@kindlingking actually yes. Parrying shields have the most. Followed by fist weapons and parrying dagger and small shields on third place but that wouldnt fit the joke
@@kindlingking at least on 1, caestus has "average" frames and parrying dagger is on tied with target shield
@@hugofontes5708 still caestus is nice because you can do mixups to
I want to preface this statement by acknowledging that you were talking about D&D monk-style unarmed combat, which makes sense as you describe it. However, I personally would think that wearing gauntlets would be better than nothing at all, not because you would hit harder, but because if you are wearing gauntlets, you are likely also wearing other armor and perhaps even plate armor, which would hopefully allow you to get in closer than you would otherwise.
I have no personal experience with the subject other than these videos, so I don't know what I'm talking about and you should take all of this with salt, but that thought crossed my mind while I was watching. Great video, cheers!
One time I was doing some sparring in my Arnis class and the gloves are surprisingly useful as improvised shields
Found out you posted this by going to your page specifically. Didn't get a notification or anything. Wow. I'd have watched it right when it dropped.
now you mention it Skall, you've definitely got some Fantasy monk vibes
Thank you for making this video; it was super helpful, as this very topic was on my mind for about a week. Great timing!
This is why kensei is my favorite way to do D&D monks: they absolutely can fight unarmed, but they're better off with the weapons they've chosen to put in a lot of training time with, possibly mixing in some unarmed strikes as opportunity allows. Y'know, like what makes sense.
I just wish Kensei wasn’t reliant on either using a bow or forcing you to use one of your two main attacks on an unarmed attack. So much for a weapon monk…
@@joefollo4891 Eh, that option's there if you need or want to play more defensively, but there are plenty of abilities where you benefit from attacking multiple times with your weapon to go for other benefits. Deft strike and sharpen the blade give you better potential damage output, and at high levels unerring accuracy only benefits your weapons, not your unarmed strikes.
@@TrueTgirl For a whole subclass, 1 ki for minor extra damage and one good feature at lvl 17 is pretty lackluster for a new play style. A significant portion of Kensei’s stuff is invalid if you’re in melee and want to use a magic weapon.
@@joefollo4891 Give Pathfinder 2E a look honestly. There's probably plenty ways to do what you want that monk to do.
@@CronyneWARE While I appreciate the offer, I believe that Mercy and Ascending Dragon monk can be really fun with weapons using Tasha’s dedicated weapon and proficiency swap variant rule. So long as I can use my action for 2 weapon attacks and still get a variety of features, I’m easily satisfied.
I don't need sleep, I need more Skall videos! I really liked the concept of this video, very fun and thought provoking. I hope you can make some other interesting videos on others non conventional fighting techniques
if you mess something up with a messer, is it a messtake? Don't worry I know where the door is.
Knife one. Now get out. We don't like edgy jokes here.
@@caseydubois3645 honey can you draw me a bath?
Mike Tyson: *draws a fish*
I guess the messer can turn anyone into a chopped up mess.
Loved the video! The pov camera was great!!!
Your girl seems so happy the whole time! Idk if it’s because she loves hearing you speak your wisdom or if she’s thinking of all the ways she could annihilate you.
Why not both? 😋
As always, great video. Loved your guided meditation video the other day.
I mean the monks in dnd and similar system have magic hands that are stronger then steel depending on level so they should actually be able to catch a sword, since it wouldn't really be able to cut their hands as long as they have ki.
Man Skal... I wish I had such beautiful nature spots to drill and meditate in. Living in Texas, there are some...but this place looks serene.
I always pictured vambraces not gauntlets....now I wonder if both combined could work.
Might as well go for the full plate armor set.
If you saw skalls video about armor effectiveness armor doesnt completely negate damage. You still take a lot of blunt damage even from swords with armor. For example ppl get knocked out with enough blows to the head with a helmet on.
I covered that in the video.
Looking good Sir! I dig the Shirt and jewelry!
This video is basically “Yes, you can, but why would you?”
The head camera is very cool. Obv. not feasible in less restrained 'sparring' in the long run, but getting that perspective was pretty cool.
that place is stunning mind it looks cold and windy
Nova Scotia I believe? He's gotten into using it as a backdrop a lot more lately because it's so picturesque.
Beautiful background. Great filming. Love the video overall. Keep up the good work Skall!
I feel like all that shock to the wrist is a no no too. Couldn’t you arm just break too if they hit hard enough/enough times
Armor is ment to suppress that and normally, by my knowledge, you wear some type of padding underneath armor, the padding with soften the hit, also most fights don't last long.
maybe not break, but you will feel a lot of pain
The 16th century Irish were known (textually and it also shows up in art) for using a single gauntlet on the left arm as parrying devise. Sometimes the gauntlet is part of a full arm harness. The earliest record I could find is an English text of 1515 asking for the army of Dublin to equip a left hand gauntlet is they didn't have access to a full plate harness or choose to use a hauberk (as was custom in Ireland). Sadly I don't know if it was done before.
somehow all of this overanalyzing and explaining just strengthens the D&D monk fantasy
it's half the reasons I watch this channel. "it's obviously impractical, but how impractical is it?"
the more impractical the cooler my monk breaking swords with his bare fists is going to feel
also, wise old man odin beats "le metal winged helmet odin" every day of the week. Huginn and Muninn are my favorite experimental assault drones
I just love your content, man. And WE HAVE noticed your filming is evolving. I love the first person from enemy view. No one is doing stuff like this.
Relevant anecdote: In a buhurt duel I once deflected my opponents sword with a gauntlet almost identical to yours, the sword glanced off the knuckle and hit the thumb, busted the thumb rivet off like it wasn't even there, and gave me a swollen thumb joint. I won't be trying that again.
12:21 My friend once did this to me. We were in sparring, he dual wielded a dagger and a sword, I bastard sword. He somehow lost his sword, so he threw his dagger at me, I parried it and saw how he is taking his mail gauntlet off. I knew he's gonna throw it at me, but I didn't expect he's gonna hit my balls. The fight was obviously over xD
I thought the idea behind the question was that the person with the gauntlets was supposed to be wearing a full suit of armour.
Yeah...
In full suit i would say it basically is a skinnier buckler if you are using a fully armored hand and forearm.
The problem then is dealing with risky impacts, as well as redirection into your joints.
But im an anateur so this is just a shot at the dark.
Lovely location! Great editing! Best info!
*Skall doesn't want to grapple*
*Sad Kara noises*
The sword and buckler demos got me interested. Do you have any sword and dagger videos? Is that a real usable setup/strategy?
When you mentioned using stick in hand with buckler, that's Chinese Gou rang, but maybe even better, that makes more sense cuz if u have wooden stick attached to buckler sword could dig in, stuck and you could control it, just like Viking shields
Beautiful backgroug! Make us see more of it!
What is this place tho. It looks beautiful
Nova Scotia, Canada
skall, as a semi-professional street-fighter, i guess where ever angle of your sword was gonna go in the section at around 5:00
the reason i could do this is because your eyes are an immediate tell, you look where you're about to swing a second or two before you swing, you do this as you judge how you do it. something you could do to improve your technique and make you more difficult to fight is you could hold eye contact with your opponent at all times and learn to make your swings without needing to judge distance and all that. if you could learn that one simple thing, you would become a formidable opponent to spar.
learning how to read that tell will also make you more effective at parrying, and if you ever got into a street fight you might actually be able to catch your opponent's fists as i have had done to me multiple times before i learned to focus on making eye contact.
What about a gauntlet sword
That was actually a thing
@@spencerwadley97 ikr
Unfortunately, that is truly an underappreciated historical weapon.
Wow the landscape looks beautiful and so fitting
This is why actual monks also use staff weapons!!!
Winch is also bad cuz they can not cut or pirce
@@theguy5054 blunt force is still a thing.
@@theguy5054 the point is that monks usually dont want to kill. But yeah
@@theguy5054 a good strike with a stave can stove in ribcages.
I don't care how much of chad you are, you can't fight with a pierced lung and broken heart
@@kriegscommissarmccraw4205
Or a crushed head...
Skall trying to explain things and i´m just captivated by the beautiful background landscape.
Oh my god, Skall, i just realise, are you the reason Shad began with that whole "THE STICK" thing?
Feels like the answer to "could it work?" was avoided. Just talking, why it's bad. My expectation was more: What would you do in a situation, where you have to fight with gauntlets versus a sword. I don't think, anybody would deliberately fight with gauntlets only.
It COULD work, but you'd need a thick vambrace as well for active parrying, but it would still be inferior to a sword, so you'd only do it if you had some special training in a style. At which point it works like any short weapon vs long weapon, hope you get an opening and grapple.
is there any type of fist weapons that go over your whole arm like a shield/gauntlet combo but have like a blade,spike,or blunt front for striking
Skall looks like he's training for a HEMA match with Ra's Al Ghul.
The best point is that its harder to close in with your fists. The reach disadvantage is real.
COUNTERING looks quite possible though with a full arm guard. So you'd need to fight defensively, moving away and out, and circling, and then wait for the counter (probably kicking, and trying to trip)
And if your opponent is slower, (is wearing plate armor for example) you could use that to your advantage.
You'd certainly be at the disadvantage, but there are strategies to help you have a chance. I would personally look for a clinch counter, so, use feints to get you to do all those little flicking moves, so that you start to push in, retreat initially, and then push in upon opportunity to get a grip and then move in.
The problem there though, is if you break the grip and spin slash out, so you'd need a good grip on the hip etc to really wedge you in, so it would be safe to drive you down.
That is 5 layers deeper in strategy than you want to be in a fight though, haha.
In a world with magic though, I suppose a monk would just use some form of ki to harden their skin, and use the mobility to be more evasive and to penetrate the position faster.
I once used wrestling against a two time world champion boxer and kickboxer, and I went in with bare hands, and him with gloves. And I destroyed him in less than 20 seconds every time because his gloves were heavier, and so I could flick my hand five times to his one, so my defense was simpler, allowing me to get in deep into the clinch, and without gloves in the clinch you have more options, and with gripping it disables a person with gloves (which is why it is against the rules in actual boxing). And yeah I just did a takedown.
Now, presumably the opponent SHOULD know how to defend a takedown, and if so would NEVER be taken down in less than 20 seconds, BUT my point is that when you have something that SLOWS your movement by any amount, it does impose some disadvantage. So in a magical world, it could balance out by having just enough armor defense, so that your armor disadvantage is equal to their speed disadvantage.
If you have a critical armor weakness though, rather than just a disadvantage... Then yeah, you are totally boned. I think if you had good gambeson, and nice thick gloves, and vambraces, and maybe some throwables you could do something. But in the real world, all that slows you down, and I feel like its not balanced enough to make any sense. Even using kicks and sweeps... nah nah... cuz you can only really fight defensively, and for a BIG counter move. You CAN'T risk getting a well leveraged sharp metal object whacking you.
YOU CAN defend though. I know this from real experience with knives and bottles and pool cues (from security work), you just use footwork.
Also if you have a shield of any kind you can use this to set up your counter defense, a common one I used was a backpack, or a stool, any sizeable enough object that smothers the blow.
I ONCE used my forearm to block a pool cue. I moved IN on it attempting to get it just between his grip. He was NOT trained though, so he got scared and dropped it cuz I was coming in with a flying knee as the next move.
Anywho... Knives are easily avoided with a backpack and footwork (and wrist break techniques... super crucial as they try to grab you, and 90% of fatalities are from them gripping and stabbing multiple times). Well, not easily... you need EXCEPTIONAL footwork.
All this said. Reach is king, and just straight up, having no reach is a disadvantage to your ability to attack. Puts all of the stress of your fighting style on your footwork, cuz if you can't get in, you are not doing damage.
The whole proposition of armor is to DEFLECT attacks one cannot evade, or parry/block with a weapon or shield of some kind. Of course, it helps that armor that protects one's vitals be thicker. But if you're going to use it against weapons, then don't block with it! DEFLECT with it. You have to hit the incoming attack from the weak side, not meet it directly. Otherwise, though the armor may not be breached, the underlying flesh will get damaged. Even a broken bone is possible in that situation.
this is the perfect vod to cross with for honor centurion hero ,would like to see you analyse that too love your vids mate keep it up.