You can take the rich girl out of the mansion, but you can't take the mansion out of the rich girl. All that talk about what she deserves and how she's had to put up with a lower standard? That's her real personality coming out, and the 20K engagement ring would not have been the final problem. The problem with women like this is that they want someone else to provide the kind of lifestyle they want to live.
This story hits a couple of my sore points, as a man. The GF dropped the line of the OP shouldn’t be “cheap”and “the ring she deserves” and “it shows you’re serious about us.” My hang up is: what does SHE have to provide for him? What is her “traditional responsibility” in the relationship and in terms of the engagement? She also stated he doesn’t take her places. Why can’t SHE take HIM? Or did she leave daddy’s house and money for a new “daddy” and his money?
Agreed this and most relationships with women are like the law of diminishing returns. Young men that don't have much experience with women easily fall into this trap of doing too much not caring much about reciprocity. She develops an unrealistic expectation and more importantly one that is not sustainable. When you allow this dynamic it will always be one-sided in her favor. I understand you shouldn't keep score however should not be anything over 60 percent. Many relationships are lopsided to the tune of 90 from her man and 10 percent effort on her end
@@JoseDiaz-rd9fh precisely. One partner cannot constantly be the one giving while receiving little or nothing in return. In this case, she wants a stupidly expensive ring while providing him with what? It will just turn into escalating requests just for the “privilege” of her presence.
I had a bf once who wanted to buy me a 10k engagement ring, I told him the same thing, I would have said No and money doesn't define a person but how they love one another, we broke up because he loves his car more than he did me, so his friends told me honey, you're too good for him and let him go marry his darn car. I hope the Op will find a nice woman someday, someone more deserving of him, he sounds like a nice guy and 20k on an engagement ring? She's definitely a gold digger, Op dodged a bullet dumping her.
All women measure your love with what u can or do buy them. That's the story of life my friends. U want to be happy simply dont ever get married. Thats the true key to happiness not allowing a women to ruin your life.
I only gave my wife a gold ring, it’s old fashioned I know but we have been married now 32 years and very happy together. We own our own home and have been debt free 10 years.😊
My first thought just on title alone was that she wanted something that was a few thousand and he wanted to spend a few hundred. My shock when it turned out he was thinking something around $5k and what she was looking at turned out to be in the $20k+ range! 😱 Yeah, definitely nta. OP's price limits are completely reasonable for an engagement ring. There just comes a point where a ring becomes more ostentatious than classy the more expensive it gets. Honestly, to me, something more important than the size of the stone would just be if the ring in the style the girl likes or stones the girl likes because even if the guy picks it himself, it would hopefully be something his fiance would actually want to wear. But presumably most guys would know their partners' tastes in style by this point.
@@wendigos_eat_people7177 It's probably pretty hard to find an engagement ring for less than $1k, but I wouldn't know. I'm just going based on what OP himself was willing to have as his limit and that his own expectations for a ring price were perfectly reasonable. His ex-partner's, however, obviously weren't. As for me, like I say style is more important than the carat.
You know what I hate about weddings everybody says that they should be traditional traditionally speaking wasn't the engagement ring boughtby the guy the woman would take it and that would be it when in the hell did it become her choice about the engagement ring
Also why pay for a Tiffany or Cartier when they jack up the price for the brand name. You can buy identical rings for less money although it won’t be Tiffany
He gave up too easily most young pretty girls are young and naive. She obviously cared to some degree or she would not have come back. This is why it's so important as a man to have solid boundaries and discipline. Many women can and do change for the right kind of man. Not saying that she would have changed here in this situation. However that said with solid leadership, boundaries, some compromise to show goodwill eventually you establish healthy balance and habits and if she can find contentment within your frame of leadership then it will be good. If she cannot then you have a definitive answer and direction.
You know what I hate about weddings everybody says that they should be traditional traditionally speaking wasn't the engagement ring boughtby the guy the woman would take it and that would be it when in the hell did it become her choice about the engagement ring
AND even if OP did spend $20 K on an engagement ring, chances are a divorce is on the horizon in 3-5 years given how toxic she appears to be
You can take the rich girl out of the mansion, but you can't take the mansion out of the rich girl. All that talk about what she deserves and how she's had to put up with a lower standard? That's her real personality coming out, and the 20K engagement ring would not have been the final problem. The problem with women like this is that they want someone else to provide the kind of lifestyle they want to live.
He should have asked how much she was going to spend on HIS ring.
This story hits a couple of my sore points, as a man. The GF dropped the line of the OP shouldn’t be “cheap”and “the ring she deserves” and “it shows you’re serious about us.” My hang up is: what does SHE have to provide for him? What is her “traditional responsibility” in the relationship and in terms of the engagement? She also stated he doesn’t take her places. Why can’t SHE take HIM? Or did she leave daddy’s house and money for a new “daddy” and his money?
Agreed this and most relationships with women are like the law of diminishing returns. Young men that don't have much experience with women easily fall into this trap of doing too much not caring much about reciprocity. She develops an unrealistic expectation and more importantly one that is not sustainable. When you allow this dynamic it will always be one-sided in her favor. I understand you shouldn't keep score however should not be anything over 60 percent. Many relationships are lopsided to the tune of 90 from her man and 10 percent effort on her end
@@JoseDiaz-rd9fh precisely. One partner cannot constantly be the one giving while receiving little or nothing in return. In this case, she wants a stupidly expensive ring while providing him with what? It will just turn into escalating requests just for the “privilege” of her presence.
She wouldnt have been happy.
Should have ghosted the gold digger. That's the only thing she "deserves"
At $20,000.00 for a 3 carat Tiffany ring! That’s cheap! She was trying to snow you!
What these women don't realize that that ring is a theft target?
I had a bf once who wanted to buy me a 10k engagement ring, I told him the same thing, I would have said No and money doesn't define a person but how they love one another, we broke up because he loves his car more than he did me, so his friends told me honey, you're too good for him and let him go marry his darn car. I hope the Op will find a nice woman someday, someone more deserving of him, he sounds like a nice guy and 20k on an engagement ring? She's definitely a gold digger, Op dodged a bullet dumping her.
All women measure your love with what u can or do buy them. That's the story of life my friends. U want to be happy simply dont ever get married. Thats the true key to happiness not allowing a women to ruin your life.
I only gave my wife a gold ring, it’s old fashioned I know but we have been married now 32 years and very happy together. We own our own home and have been debt free 10 years.😊
My first thought just on title alone was that she wanted something that was a few thousand and he wanted to spend a few hundred. My shock when it turned out he was thinking something around $5k and what she was looking at turned out to be in the $20k+ range! 😱
Yeah, definitely nta. OP's price limits are completely reasonable for an engagement ring. There just comes a point where a ring becomes more ostentatious than classy the more expensive it gets.
Honestly, to me, something more important than the size of the stone would just be if the ring in the style the girl likes or stones the girl likes because even if the guy picks it himself, it would hopefully be something his fiance would actually want to wear. But presumably most guys would know their partners' tastes in style by this point.
You kidding me? I wouldn't spend even a $1000.00 for an engagement ring. Imagine what it would cost for a wedding ring?
@@wendigos_eat_people7177 It's probably pretty hard to find an engagement ring for less than $1k, but I wouldn't know. I'm just going based on what OP himself was willing to have as his limit and that his own expectations for a ring price were perfectly reasonable. His ex-partner's, however, obviously weren't. As for me, like I say style is more important than the carat.
I don't think 20 to 25k is too much for a 3 carot ring. But if he does, then they are not compatible
You know what I hate about weddings everybody says that they should be traditional traditionally speaking wasn't the engagement ring boughtby the guy the woman would take it and that would be it when in the hell did it become her choice about the engagement ring
Op should feel lucky that he dodge a bullet by not marrying his gold digger girlfriend
We should assemble a *"Gold Digger Slayer"* team 😂😂😂
When woman like ring expensive ring one nako back out na gold digger alert
Also why pay for a Tiffany or Cartier when they jack up the price for the brand name. You can buy identical rings for less money although it won’t be Tiffany
...this usually happens when ppl start listening to idiots...
He gave up too easily most young pretty girls are young and naive. She obviously cared to some degree or she would not have come back. This is why it's so important as a man to have solid boundaries and discipline. Many women can and do change for the right kind of man. Not saying that she would have changed here in this situation. However that said with solid leadership, boundaries, some compromise to show goodwill eventually you establish healthy balance and habits and if she can find contentment within your frame of leadership then it will be good. If she cannot then you have a definitive answer and direction.
An investment should guarantee some kind of return. She's clearly not something to invest in.
You know what I hate about weddings everybody says that they should be traditional traditionally speaking wasn't the engagement ring boughtby the guy the woman would take it and that would be it when in the hell did it become her choice about the engagement ring