Honda HS621 Walkaround and Demo vs. Honda HS622 Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- This video is Honda HS621 single stage snowblower walkaround and demo. I talk about the unit, the history, the features and the advantages and disadvantages of the unit. As an added bonus I also compared it again my Honda HS622 dual stage snowblower for fun!
Living in Detroit Michigan my HS 621 is a life saver.....but sure would like that 622....wow what a machine..this is our first winter back to Michigan in five years........went out last week pulled the cord and bam.......first pull....thank you Japan
Yes the 621 is amazing and if I had a flatter driveway I would've honestly kept my 621. My unit went to a new home and the owner loves it! My trusty 622 is more stable on the sloped incline on our street but it is SLOW as heck to move. I will consider trading up to a hydrostatic driven 724 when future funds permit.
My 1996 hs621 runs like a champ. We just got 21" the other day and no problems at all with moving the snow
Yes this blower is a monster and can take on a tremendous amount of snow despite its diminutive size.
Grasshopper great video I just got me a Troy-Bilt 21 in single stage I haven't used it yet waiting for snow but I really want to get the Honda 24 in or 28 in track two stage it's a little bit expensive but well worth it. Thanks for taking the time and doing this video
You’re most welcome! Yes the Honda’s are extremely well made and designed to last a lifetime BUT they cost an awful lot compared to the completion which can be a turn off for some. Quality costs a lot but I have zero regrets.
Love your neighbor as yourself. Looks like fun..
It's so much fun. I love helping my neighbours out b/c it saves their back and allows me to play with my machines :)
I have one-stage Honda HS750 and now think about two-stage machine Honda HS 655 with wheels. Price is enormously high 3500 USD, but it's definitely better, than one-stage.
What is your opinion? Whether it is worthwhile to spend money for bigger version if I have already small one?
It depends on a few things. Are you willing to shell the money out for a 2 stage, do you have a driveway/street that is inclined, do you have strength/mobility issues, is your existing blower not meeting your needs? If you answered yes to any of those questions then a 2 stage MIGHT make sense. I owned both units and preferred the single stage for its lightweight and nimble handling but the issue was I had a sloped driveway that made using it on the more heavy snow days a bit of a challenge. I've since moved from my old home and have moved to a home with a 3 car driveway and full length sidewalk so a 2 stage was really needed to move the snow around efficiently.
@@piercedasian Thank you for your hints. I have parking lot for 8-10 cars, paveways, etc. But all these are without incline. Two years I removed snow with one-stage snow blower, so my wife told that we shall stay with the same approach, rather than will pay 3500 USD for 2-stage machine. Can't be opposed to my wife ;-)
wow a parking space for 8-10 cars?? that's quite a bit of space to cover. If you can manage with a single stage then wonderful but usually for such large spaces that most folks would opt for a fast moving 2 stage like a Honda HS928 with hydrostatic drive.
@@piercedasian Together with wife we use two Fiskars SnowXpert 70 cm width. First, 30 minutes to collect snow in form of a hill. Then 30 minutes with Honda HS750 one-stage to throw snow away.
Sometimes, up to two hours are needed to remove snow.
wow that's wild. I can't even imagine.
I enjoy the Honda’s! I have the HS720 snow blower and the HRX217 mower both with the 190 engines
Yeah the Honda's are quite well built. I have a HS621/HS622 and a Honda HR195 and HR215 mower. All GX engines for me but the 190 is a bigger displacement motor with some serious power. Love Honda products.
thanks for posting this, great video and comparison. Love how the 621 clears right down to the pavement, your driveway doesn't look that sloped only when I see you going up it I see you slipping and the machine slipping as well, icy. I can totally see why your track 622 rules in that kind of situation. I cannot believe that both units use the same engine, I'm assuming the Honda numbers are 6 for 6hp and 21, 22 for the inches width clearing, respectively. Your 621 throws snow farther than my path-pro, and I'm surprised how heavy the path-pro is 97 lbs and you mentioned your 621 is around 95 lbs, I think weight speaks quality, even though my path-pro seems to have more plastic on it than your mostly metal 621. That 160cc gx engine is extremely good, the path-pro is a 208cc with 6.5 hp compared to your 160cc 6hp. Anyhow, it is a treat to have a snowblower on these days, this winter especially as been a hard one, can't seem to get rid of this snow just yet. Here is the link to my review on the path-pro: th-cam.com/video/YAeer6xHNoE/w-d-xo.html
It was my pleasure! Timing of when I can do videos is always a challenge especially when you throw in a dependency on weather. I figured that since I was playing with snowblowers this past season that I may as well make the best of what little snow we get. You're correct in that my driveway isn't crazy sloped but enough that it can be struggle trying to push a near 100lb snowblower up it even if it is semi-self propelled. The path pro's weight at 97 lbs isn't really a surprise when you consider that you're sporting a 208cc engine. Remember, the little Honda I have is only 160cc so your definitely pushing quite a bit more displacement than the HS621. Just pulling numbers from my memory of old spec sheets I believe the HS520 was 88 lbs with no electric start, the HS621 with electric start was 95-98 lbs and the HS622 is 143 lbs. All great units indeed but I would prefer equipment that uses the GX series of motors. Indestructible and completely rebuildable when they do eventually wear out.
I guess I should carefully read the questions my viewers post before replying. I completely missed your questions about the model numbering schema.
Yes the model numbers usually tell what power and size the blowers are.
i.e HS621 - 6HP, 21" wide, HS622 - 6HP, 22" wide, HS1336 - 13HP, 36" wide ect...
There is also the suffix at the end of their models such as ATD, ACTD etc etc... those denote whether or not they're wheel or track drive and whether or not they have electric start and other factory options.
yes I agree about the indestructible Honda engines, when I've reconditioned Honda motors (carb rebuild, valve adjustments, rpm adjustment) I've purchased my parts down South (USA) cause parts were noticeably cheaper even with the exchange rate, OE parts too! Not sure if you know but Honda's have timing belts, they should last the life of the engine, however, if they break I believe its not an interference engine and there are videos on youtube on how to replace them.
thanks for the info
Ah not all Honda's have timing belts... Only the GS and GC series have timing belts that are meant to last the life of the engine. The GX line however uses all steel gearing that drives the camshaft and then that actuates the pushrods and valve assembly. This is WHY I love the GX so much... traditional OHV design (vs OHC) where the engine can be rebuilt and rebuilt over and over again. I'll be long dead before my GX fails me and chances are it will outlive the next 2 generations of our family if they take care of their OPE as well as I do :)
I found a hs622 2 stage locally for $450.00 usd, It's from the late 90's. Would you say that's a good buy?
That's probably the going rate in your locality. I purchased my HS622 new for $900 CAD b/c the owner that purchased it bought it, ran it for 30 minutes and then decided that where he lived was too cold and moved overseas. The blower sat for a few years in a heated garage and when they decided to sell the unit that they send the 622 to the local Honda dealer to service it and sell it to the first reasonable offer (me). Mine was built in 2013 and I purchased it in late 2016. Normally these blowers in my neck of the woods would sell for $1300-1400 and they're also from the 1990's.
Didn't know honda made that particular model till 2015. Like you said the model you have there was discontinued in USA in late 90's, I have two of them and they look exactly the same as your newer snowblower hs621 minus the electric start. I've seen some of these models on internet that even have a drift breaker attachment...not sure what markets had the option for it though.
Would you recommend a hs622 2 stage?
Yes in Canada the HS621 was available here (made in Japan) all the way until early 2016 or whenever local inventory ran out. Admitted Honda snowblowers marketed in Canada were always better than what other worldwide markets got b/c we supposedly have way worse winters than the rest of the world (I don't think we do but that's just my opinion). The HS621 was a true commercial grade single stage. EVERYTHING on that thing is thick gauge metal and I SOLD my NEW HS520 at a significant loss to buy a HS621 b/c it was THAT GOOD. I loved my HS520 but the HS620 is just better at everything from build quality to power. In the US the 621 was axed after 1997 (shame). Drift breakers were available in European markets and not in Canadian or US markets (that I know of). I sold my HS621 to buy myself a HS622 PURELY for the reasons of having self propelled and the fact that the HS622 I got was from someone that purchased and NEVER used it beyond 30 minutes. It was a steal and obviously new AND I had a sloped driveway and my storage garage is out back and moving a single stage in deep snow on grass is NOT possible so that is why I landed on the HS622. I LOVE the HS622 sans the super slow track speed. Same engine, same power as the 621 but in a 2 stage form factor. I'd keep both if I had the space for it. Buy the 622 if you have a sloped road or driveway or need to move the unit on surfaces other than a flat, smooth/paved surfaces.
Amazing video…thanks. I just bought a used 621. How can I check the engine revision?
The easiest way is to look at the serial # of the blower itself. Call up any honda power equipment dealer and they can give you an idea of how old the unit is which should help you pinpoint the vintage of the engine. Alternatively there may be markings on the engine such as serial # that will also help identify the vintage. I suspect MOST 621 are the GX160K1's as that was an extremely long production run series of that motor. Practically bulletproof.
Nice Hondas! Consider stepping your game up and hit the 621 with some Pro Honda Spray Cleaner and Polish ;)
PS. Did I see a Rex next to your CTR? I bought my first CRX Si in 1996. Bought my second CRX Si in 2000, years before the first Fast and Furious movie. That was even before the first Gran Turismo. Guess I'm getting old now.
I should've washed the HS621 before doing this video but it is in fact in mint condition for the most part. Dirty b/c the snow was dirty and thus left a bunch of winter grime over it. There isn't a scratch on it otherwise. You are correct that it is a CRX. CRX Si to be exact and it's in factory new condition still. Rarely drive it and it is a garage queen. I had a full restoration job done in in back in 2007 b/c the paint through aging was chipped and scratched and a rocker was rusted out (oddly ONLY the rocker was rotten) but the rest of the car was otherwise immaculate. I plan to do a walk around vid of my old car but I'm never going to sell the CRX b/c it is a Honda classic! Do you still have your CRX?
I sold my '88 CRX Si many years ago, but I still consider the CRX to be one of my all time favorite cars at any price. I replaced it with a Frost White '92GSR, the one that came with the rare B17a1. In 2004 I had King Motorsports(The Mugen Dealer) put together a B18c5 for my '92 GSR. I ordered a brand new 0mi '01spec B18c5 shortblock and I bought a used c5 cylinder head that belonged to the CEO of King Motorsports for a compression ratio of 11.6:1 with factory USDM pistons. We used a Mugen Gymkahana spec exhaust manifold to clear the front crossmember. Everything dropped right in, and not one single wire needed to be changed. The old DB2 chassis is the closest thing Honda ever made to the CRX. I believe they are more CRX-like than the third gen CRX known as the DelSol.
My little Brother was one of the first in town with a XSi B16a in his '90 Civic Si Hatch. He did the swap in 2001, and my '88 CRX Si still walked on him with the factory D16a6. I had a Bill Gude "Bullfrog" camshaft, a Jun flywheel and all the bolt-ons.
Do you have the factory motor in your CRX? King Motorsports can build D16's that will walk away from bigger V-TEC motors. They have been racing Hondas since 1981.
88 CRX... nice... the only CRX that used the same rear trailing arm as an EK9/DC2 R. Wow a 92 GSR? That IS really rare. I can't say I've ever seen or worked on a B17a before although I know lots about it. You just don't see cars that old anymore on the road b/c ricers mod the piss outta them or people abused and disposed of them. Shame b/c those cars from Honda, Toyota and Nissan were all epic cars for their day. King Motorsports... if I could only afford anything from them.... very familiar with what they sell but man.. Mugen ANYTHING is costly regardless if the piece is even functional. Wow that is interesting that your D16A was able to walk away from your brothers swapped hatch. Why is that? The D16A is factory built with only 108 HP. On mine it is mostly stock and original sans a AEM cold air intake, a generic stainless muffler from the previous owner (b/c stock mufflers rust out quickly), lowering springs with Tokico blue struts and an Energy suspension rear sway bar. I find my CRX a lot of fun to drive but it is in need of new suspension bushings not b/c of mileage but age... 28 years on the original ball rubber is already impressive in itself. if I didn't replace anything I"m sure I could still drive it without any real issues BUT I would presume it would drive even better if things were refreshed and tight and to spec like a new car. That is way cool that you had a CRX, a 92 GSR AND a Honda snowblower... I'm a Honda diehard and own everything Honda right down to my coffee mug :)
I am surprised you are aware of the differences in the '88's rear suspension, very few seem to be aware of that. Mine was a very early production motor, the 343'rd D16a6 made. It had a 22mm crank, when D16a6's are supposed to have 24mm cranks. The Japanese DOHC ZC motors used 22mm cranks. The "Bullfrog" camshaft made the power, and the Jun ZC flywheel really helped put it to the ground in the first 2 gears. That CRX walked on my Brother's B16a through 3rd and into 4th gears. Aerodynamics likely played a role, as well as weight. That B16a made power to 9k, and my B18c5 only pulled to 8700. It was very likely cammed before he imported it. That was the strongest running B16a anyone around hear had seen.
King Motorsports is not as expensive as many believe. Their labor is LESS expensive than Honda dealers, and I believe Honda Motor company trusts them every bit as much as their dealers, if not more. I live 60min away from them. Their old shop on Sullivan Wi was only 40min away.
lol, there are a lot of things I know about CRXes...It was my first foray into the Honda brand and ever since I bought that vehicle way back in 2001/2002 that I knew I had something special and treated it as such. In the 18+ years I've owned it I have only put on about 67,000kms! I've read up on and seen images of various configs of different markets including the subtle differences in part design including your 22mm crank size (which BTW in 88 actually made 105HP). Way cool to find another CRX enthusiast that actually knows lots about their car. Interesting about King Motorsports... King is nowhere close to me in Canada but you are lucky to live so close to them. By expensive I was referring to Mugen parts only and not necessarily King Motorsports themselves (I should've made that clear). Good to hear that someone has actually used them. Stay in touch and consider subscribing to my channel to eventually see what my CRX looks like when I do a walk around vid of it :) Thanks!
I just picked up one of those honda's free with other goodies yesterday, what time period are they from and whats their approximate resale value in good shape?
I'm in the United States.
The time period for the HS621 in the USA would've been from the early 1990-1997 time frame. In Canada that HS621 was readily available all the way until the end of 2016 when they finally stopped making them in Japan and was permanently replaced by the HS720 series. Great find and the 621 will last you a lifetime and then some.
@@piercedasian Cool, thanks for the info.
I'm going to hang onto it.
What do you think its resale value is, USD, in great shape? I see little Honda's go normally for no less than 300 minumum and those are sometimes only 3hp models.
How is the overall power and tossing distance on this unit, very good?
What CC's is the 6hp engine on this unit?
How much were these going for at the end in Canada, $1500. I'm wondering what they sold for diwn here for new in 1998.
no no, it wasn't that high... Towards the end of 2015/2016 and whatever remaining national stock they had, they were selling for $1249 for the non-electric start version and I believe 1349 for the electric start edition. They were a TOUGH TOUGH unit and had I not had a sloped driveway or needed to get the unit back from the rear shed that I would've ABSOLUTELY kept the single stage. They're just easier and quicker to use for the urban home. Still, a very pricey unit relative to the then HS520 and fairly new HS720 models that were considerably less and had just as capable snow throwing power. The GX motor is a tank and is practically indestructible.
They discontinued them here, because they opened up a plant in the United States, all the Honda power products sold here are built here now, in Canada they weren't, they were still having them imported. They finally starting selling the American stuff and discontinued the Japanese made stuff up their as well.
yes discontinuing the HS621 in my opinion was a mistake. That blower was truly a well made machine and they were so good that they lasted up until 2015/2016 in Canada and my understanding was that a few rural stores in the prairie provinces carried old stock as late at 2017 but I have not heard of any stock since that time. Even my current version of the two stage HS622 is made in Japan and I'd be hard pressed to give it up. I sold the HS622 only to buy it back from the buyer a week later b/c of sellers remorse.
I have one of these I just got from a customer and the bale handle is so tight, you can hardly pull it back. ANy ideas??
It likely is a jammed cable from rust or an incorrectly positioned pulley that is making the cable extend further than it needs to be. These are VERY VERY simple machines and are even simpler to fix. Dig into it and see what's going on.
Just found one of these in the trash. Needed just $20 carb
wow someone tossed a HS621?? They're crazy. Those things are like tanks and the engine is virtually bulletproof!
My hs621 keeps stalling the engine as soon as I push the choke down, any ideas on how I can fix this?
ah classic symptom of a dirty carb. I actually have video content on how to do this for the HS521/621 which uses the same carb. With a good carb cleaning it will run perfectly smooth again and the job is admittedly pretty easy to do. Let me see if I can find the video footage and publish it.
@@piercedasian can you post this when you have a chance? Same issue I’m having
@@piercedasian This sounds crazy but loosen your gas cap a little...if it is too tight creates vacuum
Use a shovel and push the snow to the middle all along the perimeters, then you have a clean edge, then you can blow the snow from the bottom sidewalk onto your lawn and not the street, better chance for more moisture on the lawn when spring comes.......Just One Opinion..........
What I find works well is going down the centre of the driveway and blowing to the side and then I just keep repeating this in circles until I'm done. The thing that sucks about where I live is I am on a fairly steep hill and so when the warm weather hits us and melts the snow slightly and the refreezes at night that it is a nightmare to move a snowblower around without you and the machine slipping all over the place. Good tips nonetheless.
@@piercedasian You need studded footwear........
I’ll toss an idea at ya, if using 621, do 1-4 passes on the neighbors side up and down like you were and then do towards the grass side to side and drag it back to start the row (if it’s icy) or do all side to side if you aren’t worried about too much snow towards your neighbors yard. Thx for the vid 🤙
Just bought one for $95 lol hs621
Wow you are so Iucky! I am totally jeleous!
Did not need to say the R word. Super offensive
My apologies. I don’t even know where in my vid where I used the R word. I’ll have to check it out afterwards.
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