I am vert happy to see videos like this. I put my deposit down last week on the 2021 GP 1800R SVHO. It is the first I have ever bought anything with a motor without actually seeing it in person. I really feel like a kid at Christmas.
I'm a Seadoo owner and watching this video makes me want to trade my 19 RXTX. Your facial expression tells me that this is the one to get. That cornering in speed is so much fun.
Brent Bgnf50 BRP claims the new “Shark Fin” slots on the hull allow for turning without easing back on the throttle....if that is true it would be a game changer for Buoy racing....now that Kevin has ridden both I a interested to see if he can comment on this.
The Watercraft Journal I completely understand that choice. Such would be a widely viewed vid/article and deserves a far greater “due diligence” than a few glib sentences in a Comment Thread.
My 2020 GP SVHO is still awesome and I don't need this one. My 2020 is awesome and I don't need this one. My 2020 is awesome and I don't need this one. (Deep breaths).
00:00 "Star Fox Fire at Will !!!!" This intro... 😍😍🤩💥💥💥💥 your enthusiasm has transformed people like me who was basically just interested in real passionate ! Thanks Kevin!
2022 January 1st try to get my hands on the GP of the year of course came in too late got a good deal on 2021 GP 1800r svho brand new , there was plenty of Sea-Doo but I just couldn't pass on this watching your videos are pretty much learned Yamaha is King 👑 so thank you sir for all your content makes us folks new to this field veteran lol 🙏
How do these seats keep you held in place compared to sea-doo’s ergolock? It looks like a lot of research and development was put into ergolock and I’m interested in seeing the difference.
Ergolock is still the best IMO, but the new deck on the VX/GP allows for a far better saddle. But then again, what successful racer rides sitting down the whole time? Watch me riding in this video. How much sitting am I doing? ;)
@@watercraftjournal But then again, what successful racer rides sitting down the whole time? Christian D'Agostin, Long Beach To Catalina & Back Offshore Endurance National Championship😂😂😂😂
literally ordered mine today from Honda Yamaha of Savannah .. went w the black n green one ... Ill def be on the water this winter lol and looking forward to seeing the diff from my 2016 FZR svho ..
There's a big difference. The FZR feels far more planted and a bit more "tippy" but that is because of its sportier, soft-chined hull. The GP hull feels flatter, rides much more "on top" of the water vs. the FZR and has a much "snappier" hair pin turn at WOT. You'll like it.
@@watercraftjournal absolutely 100% correct!! with a pinch of a lil faster top end and harder acceleration got lucky ordered on Sept 16 and ski showed up Oct6
Kevin, has this model GP (which appears to be mostly unchanged up to the current 2024 model) encountered any Nano2 issues or was that just the FX? I'm looking to get back into the PWC market but really don't want any hull delamination problems. Thanks in advance. Great content as always.
I do prefer the open access to the engine compartment when the seat is off, on the old model. Seems this one will be more difficult to clean the inner hull and corrosion protect the engine.
It's 8 Torx screws to open up the engine compartment fully, permitting 40% more engine access. Since most folks don't do their own service, it's a non-issue. You can still clean your engine compartment and spray it down with no obstruction.
Kevin, thank you for this exciting review and for telling us all a month ago...that if we want a top 2021 model we'd better get our deposits down. This ski is absolutely gorgeous (IMO) & I can't wait to own it! 🙌🤗😁
@@watercraftjournal Just waiting on arrival. Question: minute 6:15 talks about the redesigned glovebox and optional back-lit USB & 12v socket. I called my dealer this morning and he isn't seeing that as an option "yet". Do you know if it's a factory build option like the stereo is? Thank you
Would you still recommend the '21 FX SVHO over this '21 GP1800R SVHO for rough sea water aka ocean/beach/sandbar riding only? the fact that this now has more features from the FX like the digital screen makes it a lot more tempting
No, this is a RACE CRAFT designed for rough water/closed course RACING. Buy a naturally aspirated FX Cruiser and leave the pure bred race crafts for people who are going to ride it like it was designed.
They’re really good in the chop. Yamahas hull design is so much more advanced than all the other brands. If you go look at the off shore races and pro water cross races the top five is usually only Yamaha.
My 1999 Waverunner SUV 1200 is having engine trouble again... seems every year at this point. This may be a good replacement, i wish yamaha would make another SUV though.
Just want to ask. If you had to pick between seadoo and Yamaha which would you go for and why ??. For seadoo gtx ltd vs the waverrunner fx svho also wokould be amazing if you do a video against them . Love from Malta love your videos hope you answere
I'm taking delivery on my 21 GP1800R HO tomorrow and I'm beyond excited. Quick question...I didn't get the audio package but was thinking about mounting the EcoXGear® Bluetooth® speakers, integrated ¼-20 RAM mounts. On Yamaha's website it doesn't list the 2021 GP1800 has being compatible, only the EX and VX. The GP1800 comes with a multi-mount system so shouldn't it be compatible or is it different?.
No. The 2021 GP does NOT have the multi-mount system. You will have to drill into your ski and manually attach these. Also note that the EcoXgear speakers drown out at around 45mph.
@@watercraftjournal They do actually have multi-mount system and it is compatible. I put them on and while they are not as good as the factory installed speakers, they're less than half the price.
@@watercraftjournal I’ve heard of 360 cameras... I thought maybe you guys used one. I have a 2021 GP1800R HO and it is very fast....love it and the handling. If I was being honest, the green put me off on the SVHO. If I could have ordered an SVHO in the black/Res combo I probably would have went that way. Great video review. 👍
Hi, I want to know, how is the fuel consumption of this GP? Did you try cruising speed? I ask because I going to buy a Waverunner for long distance, 1000 miles, and a want to have confort. Is that a good choice the GP?
The FX or FX Cruiser would suit your needs better. Kevin Shaw of the watercraft Journal is releasing a auxiliary fuel talk system that would be a great addition for long trip.
@@jean-guyveillette6833 I have the same issue. SVHO or HO? I calculate that on average you'll get an extra 46 to 50kms per tank ( 70L tank) with the HO over SVHO.
Man it looks awesome. I just ordered a 2021 GP1800r HO in Black/Neon lava. But that blue SVHO looks so good!! Tempted to change my order. What to do?!?!?
@@watercraftjournal I do know the difference. In Canada the HO comes in red/white or black/red. They call the red...neon lava. It's black, matte grey and red. Yes the SVHO is black and lime kawasaki green. Love that blue, but still debate the supercharger. I do a lot of long tours and worry about fuel mileage ( not the cost of fuel), but don't want to hear the low fuel alarm and not be near a pump!
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. (Why name it differently in CAN vs. USA?) You have to understand how many people here DON'T know the differences between the HO and SVHO. It's baffling.
Yes, that's the rev limiter. There's some initial cavitation from a standstill, and that's why the prop is freewheeling a little first. But the launch is demonstrably improved.
@@watercraftjournal Cant wait to ride one. I wanted a little more coverage of the active trim while turning. Some audio clips of the ski. We race buoys a lot and are wondering if it will make the cut.
No. A skilled rider will fare better going manual - at least for now. I found that it's a little clunky and frankly, Scott Watkins noted it was another gimmick added to fluff the sales brochure.
It requires a bit of a learning curve. And frankly, we find that most programs that think for the rider, aren't smart enough. The new intake grate IS the RIVA G2 grate, so you're good there. The difference is the machined housing and new re-aligned weight distribution.
@@watercraftjournal I think I heard the housing could be added to the 2020s. The weight distribution is an interesting thing. The rider is going to impact that so much it might not really net anything. Sounds like the auto trim will need some work.
Yes, you can machine your transom plate - you don't need to swap it out with an old one. (Racers have been doing it for years.) You don't need the auto trim, don't fret. The biggest issue is the weight distribution. You're just not going to replicate that easy.
Hello, Looking to buy 2021 Yamaha GP1800R HO. I heard bad opinions from people who already purchased Yamaha skis made in 2021 2021 Yamaha ski owners saying that skis built quality very poor compare to previous years. I do believe in this because of the pandemic situation globally and shortage of employees. I also believe that Yamaha skis for 2021 very poor quality because of high demand and rush in manufacturing them. Could you please advise what to look for if will be considering to buy Yamaha 2021 gp1800r ho? Many thanks in advance
Watercraft Journal, I just broke in a new 2021 GP 1800R SVHO and noticed on "cold starts" (ski has not been started for a day or two) it will idle rough for a few seconds and sometimes shuts off, requiring a second start. After idling for a few seconds it settles out, and runs smooth with no additional starting issues during a day of riding. Do you know if this is common for the 1800 series engines? Thanks.
Interesting review thanks. Always owned Kawasaki's and currently in the market to buy my 4th one. But they seem lazy and made minimal changes in the past years. How do you compare the GHP1800R to the 310R? Will keep an eye on a review on the 2021 300R when it is released soon - but a comparison video would be great. Watching this I am very tempted to swap from Kawasaki to Yamaha!!
The two are VERY different machines. The Ultra 310 is a full-sized, rough water machine; not a nimble, lightweight closed course musclecraft. If anything I'd compare the 310 to a FX SVHO or RXT-X 300.
@@watercraftjournal ok I will do that research, most of my riding is 70% ocean, 30% calm water - so am I assuming you are suggesting the GP1800 is not for me?
Hi Kevin, I am planning to buy 2021 GP1800R HO. This will be my first ski. We are expecting it in Australia by December. The only color option we have is Black and Red (I can hardly see red in it 🤣 Lol...) Shall I go ahead and book it or do you recommend any other model? Appreciate your feedback. Thank you.
Piyush Dange the HO is a great “starter” powertrain. The ski is lightweight and meant for sporty riding so don’t expect it to be a cushy cruiser - but I presume you already know that. It should be a lot of fun! Enjoy!
Which do you think would be best for having people skiing behind for several hours at a time? The GP or FX. Is the GP ho and svho completely the same except the supercharger?
Hi, great review and welly detailed. But i'm goin to buy my first jet ski, liked the GP 1800 SVHO 2021 ( because i often ride my friend's one ) but a professional recommend me an FX SVHO 2021. We usually ride in the Atlantic Ocean. Would like to have your thoughts. Thanks
@@watercraftjournal Thanks for your suggestion. Why not the FX SVHO, since we've been using the 2018 GP 1800 SVHO since 2 years? And will it wave jump? I like the handling, the aggressiveness and the speed of it.
I need one Kevin !🌞🤙🙌 Thanks for the information ! I really like SVHO ! So how is the difference from the 2021 GP1800R HO cause I'm leaning towards this one ! Just wondering long term with the supercharger ! I'd rather get the SVHO ... Arizona lakes are calling me 🌞
There's no shortage of aftermarket rack builders. We work closely with Kool PWC Stuff. Find them online - they've got a huge catalog of American-made products.
We live here in in Southwest Idaho We've got many lakes near us. And me and the wife are looking at getting a pair of these for ourselves with all the bells and whistles is what my wife says. But she's wondering if she can just fish on this thing She's like looking for fish storage for her poles and I'm like well you just carry them along with the where your feet are basically or we get some sort of a little tow behind for this thing like a floating tow behind I don't know. But thank you so much for your videos keep making more videos I used you so I could figure out whether or not we wanted to get into a Yamaha or not And yeah we want to get into a Yamaha I've always liked Yamaha
You definitely DO NOT want this machine. 100% no go. Strongly consider the FX HO and Yamaha's fishing accessories. Go to Yamaha's website and start browsing. We have a couple of articles on FX Yamahas equipped for fishing at www.watercraftjournal.com to look over.
Thanks for the vid. Can’t wait. Bro I reckon you should wear a helmet. I do every time I ride. I also recommend side entry jet pilot life jacket, great armor.
I wear helmets only on standups. And Slippery Wetsuits' Neo Side-Entry is a far better-fitting vest (which is what I'm wearing in this video). Slippery's molds and fitmet are dramatically superior to any other brand. That's why they're the only brand I wear.
Have been on a couple supercharged skis and got the bug for one and decided my first ski will be this one, can not wait for it to come to Australia, if youre a complete idiot and can't respect a powerful machine do not get on one its that simple, im not the most experienced but am definitely not oblivious to the fact this thing is a weapon! Can't wait to get my hands on one and do some work to it @watercraftjournal
You can get rid of that visibility safety spout for 9.00. It is water from pump not engine. I did it on mine in 10 minutes. Closed loop does not work as good as open. Heatsink in supercharged engines with/without mods is bad. Besides the fact that you can't mod ride plate for handling improvements.
Mark's World the visibility spout a safety measure? ha ! My beef isn’t only with the stupid looking spout, it’s the whole idea of running corrosive sea water through an aluminium alloy cylinder block !
@@maxflight777 lol its a non issue...sea doo has a shit ton of flaws...open loop cooling is better, more reliable and isnt an issue...regardless you need to flush any salt water jetski....sea doo still uses salt water to cool intercooler and all the pump system is subjected to salt as well...the same time required to flush a seadoo with closed loop cooling is no different than a yamaha....wait till you have a cooling line come off out in the ocean and your out of coolant and cant go anywhere. Yamaha...tighten coolant line and ride on. Thats if your carbon seal doesnt fail and sink first
Great review, thanks for sharing Kevin. You know the million dollar question your viewers have? Which ski will take the title of top dog on the block for 2021? Now that Sea-Doo has released their newest RXP-X Billy D Billy D
Yamaha really trying to dampen the Seadoo new model release. Putting out a lot of TH-cam videos the same time Seadoo announcing new models. If someone is in the market for a Sport model they sure do have some awesome choices to pick from. Edit: looking at the Yamaha videos I just realized it Yamaha Australia videos.
Admittedly, there's almost a month's separation between the two's releases. Our review unfortunately, landed almost exactly on the same day, so we pushed it back a couple of days.
Oh my god oh my god oh my God I can’t wait to get this damn thing I am 100 times worse than a kid the night before Christmas hey by the way do you guys think that this redesign on the supercharger clutch will make it Last longer
Tell yamaha..there is a flaw. When you reboard and attempt to grab the handle...you can't. The rear seat removal button is in the way. True design flaw.
Fast skis, plenty of people well over 80 with them on flat water. FX Cruiser or Ultra will outrun it on rough water (i.e. a typical weekend with boat chop everywhere). Also prefer fiberglass hull on the Ultra
That used to be the case, yes. But Ultras have been surpassed in offshore racing by GPs and FXs 10-fold (apart from Pastorello's Mark Hahn setup). The AquaX results sheet prove this.
In flatter conditions they do ok, but just look at the two hulls. For heavy chop (2-3 ft+) little question which one is superior, and again the fiberglass hulls are more durable. The "10 fold" is more a reflection of Yamaha's ongoing support for the sport and deeper pockets, Kawasaki hasn't done much at all. Until recently at least the MH was dominated by Ultras (for many years)
"Kawasaki’s Ultra retains the industry’s most aggressive deadrise and the heftiest weight, giving the craft both incredible rough water comfort (ie. insulation) as well as instinctual handling and proven tracking. This all comes at a cost, and the 310-horsepower Kawasaki’s fuel consumption while getting the craft to plane is substantial." watercraftjournal.com/understanding-what-makes-a-good-rough-water-hull-design/
There are so many morons are various forums chasing speed on glass but all that means exactly nothing on a typical packed weekend with unpredictable boat chop. Ultra is still king in those conditions.
Agreed on your last comment; but you quoting my article doesn't prove your point - in fact, it proves mine. But the GP and FX certainly have dethroned the once-king. The facts are written all over the scoreboard, Mark.
@@watercraftjournal the one I got is one of the fastest you lot tested tho remember the fx svho carbon? The green and grey one? But it doesn't have launch control and the new steering!
Its truly ana amazing machine, I have the exact same one. W. just a maptuner x and an engine breather hose, it will hit 76 w a full tank of gas in hot fl weather.
Sea doos are better: - More accomodations for people - New IDF System - Close loop cooling system - Depth finder - More options for people like fish jetski and tow jetskis, etc. - Dual Display (Bigger than Yamahas)
Seadoos have a carbon seal that fails. Then they sink! Closed loop cooling is not necessarily better either. There are pros and cons with every brand, however to say they are better than Yamaha/Kawasaki? Seadoo are not as reliable and don't handle as well, but the ergolock seating is awesome. The design of Seadoo is nice too. I think the best would be a Kawasaki Ultra hull, Seadoo top deck with ergolock, and Yamaha engine/pump. 😁🙂
Actually, it's the exact opposite of the manufacturer's recommendations. We're glad you're safe and enjoying yourself but for the vast majority of folks coming here for info, we strongly advise against it.
Full send with these bad boys. Not everyone wants to ride lakes and rivers and live a boring life. Send it as high as you can till the hull cracks lol. And don’t forget to review the 2020-2021 hulls that flake apart lol
Very likely you are correct but I do not like the black trim on the front and rear. Looks a little cheap (EX like.) On a different note, what is your professional opinion on the FX? I am highly contemplating to trading in my GP for the FX SVHO because I heard the hull is larger and better for stability (I like fishing with my waverunner.)
So hard to watch your videos i should have just put a down payment on a new one :( but im like 23 and bearly have any credit but spent 10k on a super clean vxr eith less then 35 hours dude said it had no warranty i got took it out twice 2ed time it started ticking took it to the ramp then called to see if had warranty turns out it did so i took it in and the dude lied about the warranty because he sunk it the whole engine was full of water and it had multiple oil pressure warnings and other maintenance codes and didnt do anything and yahama said my warrantys voided The oil pressure codes were at 10 -25 hours and the dealer its at has paperwork of it:( it was at 45 hours when it started ticking with my mom on it.... i had the stuff to do the 50 hour maintenance 3.8 quarts of oil new oil filter and I even got the tube that sucks the oil out :[ i dont know what to do! Anyway yall could possibly help me? Thanks!
![[ ออกกอง ] วัยหนุ่ม 2544 โลกหลังลูกกรง..ทัวร์กองถ่ายหนังใน "คุกของจริง" | JUSTดูIT.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vB--aOkZCpw/mqdefault.jpg)
I am vert happy to see videos like this. I put my deposit down last week on the 2021 GP 1800R SVHO. It is the first I have ever bought anything with a motor without actually seeing it in person. I really feel like a kid at Christmas.
Thank you! Please help us grow by sharing this video.
I'm a Seadoo owner and watching this video makes me want to trade my 19 RXTX. Your facial expression tells me that this is the one to get. That cornering in speed is so much fun.
You'll find NO BETTER hull to hook HARD in corners at WOT than the new GP. I guarantee it. -K
That ski is bad ass looked like you were having a blast !
I can say definitively it is the best muscle craft offered today. (Yes, I know what I said.)
The Snark is strong with this one...
Me and the wife just ordered a 23 SVHO and 23 HO. Cant wait until they get here. Love the channel. Made the purchases based on your research.
Kevin, ty for the breakdown and detailed video of the New 1800R. It is simply, "Priceless". It is time to hit that water.
It's a winner, that's for sure.
You and Greenhulk now need to get the 2021 Rxpx and the 2021 gp1800R SVHO for acceleration tests so we know which one is quicker.
Brent Bgnf50 BRP claims the new “Shark Fin” slots on the hull allow for turning without easing back on the throttle....if that is true it would be a game changer for Buoy racing....now that Kevin has ridden both I a interested to see if he can comment on this.
I can and will... but not in the comment section. How about it's own article?
The Watercraft Journal I completely understand that choice. Such would be a widely viewed vid/article and deserves a far greater “due diligence” than a few glib sentences in a Comment Thread.
My 2020 GP SVHO is still awesome and I don't need this one. My 2020 is awesome and I don't need this one. My 2020 is awesome and I don't need this one. (Deep breaths).
Set it on fire. Push it off the trailer and pull the drain plugs. File a false insurance claim. ;)
@@watercraftjournal omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Watercraft Journal 🤦🏽♂️
Do you wave jump with it
@@michaelmartins5392 I try not to as cavitation is generally not great for the supercharger clutch.
You made me smile in 10 seconds
Same
The speed alone will force a smile across your face!
00:00 "Star Fox Fire at Will !!!!"
This intro... 😍😍🤩💥💥💥💥 your enthusiasm has transformed people like me who was basically just interested in real passionate ! Thanks Kevin!
Do a barrel roll!
2022 January 1st try to get my hands on the GP of the year of course came in too late got a good deal on 2021 GP 1800r svho brand new , there was plenty of Sea-Doo but I just couldn't pass on this watching your videos are pretty much learned Yamaha is King 👑 so thank you sir for all your content makes us folks new to this field veteran lol 🙏
Glad we have been helpful!
Sweeeeeet!!! Nothin like a Yamaha 👍👍🤘🤘
Especially on the race course!
@@watercraftjournal
Heck yeah, I have a Yamaha VXR. The VXR owns just about every race since its introduction.
How do these seats keep you held in place compared to sea-doo’s ergolock? It looks like a lot of research and development was put into ergolock and I’m interested in seeing the difference.
Ergolock is still the best IMO, but the new deck on the VX/GP allows for a far better saddle. But then again, what successful racer rides sitting down the whole time? Watch me riding in this video. How much sitting am I doing? ;)
@@watercraftjournal But then again, what successful racer rides sitting down the whole time? Christian D'Agostin, Long Beach To Catalina & Back Offshore Endurance National Championship😂😂😂😂
@@mave311 that’s a fat mans drag race
@@mattricard26 lol, hey imma fat guy too...lol
literally ordered mine today from Honda Yamaha of Savannah .. went w the black n green one ... Ill def be on the water this winter lol and looking forward to seeing the diff from my 2016 FZR svho ..
There's a big difference. The FZR feels far more planted and a bit more "tippy" but that is because of its sportier, soft-chined hull. The GP hull feels flatter, rides much more "on top" of the water vs. the FZR and has a much "snappier" hair pin turn at WOT. You'll like it.
@@watercraftjournal absolutely 100% correct!! with a pinch of a lil faster top end and harder acceleration got lucky ordered on Sept 16 and ski showed up Oct6
Kevin, has this model GP (which appears to be mostly unchanged up to the current 2024 model) encountered any Nano2 issues or was that just the FX? I'm looking to get back into the PWC market but really don't want any hull delamination problems. Thanks in advance. Great content as always.
Just put a deposit on one. Can’t wait. Thanks for your work.
Hope you enjoy it!
How long did you wait till it came in ?
@@JonathanGarcia-pz9kw I’m still waiting.
Damn me too lol
I do prefer the open access to the engine compartment when the seat is off, on the old model. Seems this one will be more difficult to clean the inner hull and corrosion protect the engine.
It's 8 Torx screws to open up the engine compartment fully, permitting 40% more engine access. Since most folks don't do their own service, it's a non-issue. You can still clean your engine compartment and spray it down with no obstruction.
OK good to know. It’s an important task to washdown the engine bay after heavy ocean riding. But rarely seen or spoken of.
Agreed! And flushing! The engine has a closed-loop system, but not the exhaust and pump.
Kevin, thank you for this exciting review and for telling us all a month ago...that if we want a top 2021 model we'd better get our deposits down. This ski is absolutely gorgeous (IMO) & I can't wait to own it! 🙌🤗😁
You bet! Let us know if you get one!
@@watercraftjournal Just waiting on arrival. Question: minute 6:15 talks about the redesigned glovebox and optional back-lit USB & 12v socket. I called my dealer this morning and he isn't seeing that as an option "yet". Do you know if it's a factory build option like the stereo is? Thank you
It's not an OPTION but an ACCESSORY. Have your dealer learn to crack open a catalog. :P
@@watercraftjournal Thank you Kevin!
I checked with my dealer as well in Canada and it’s not an option or available as an accessory for the GP 1800R
Like, like, like. Not being able to get one yet... makes me want to get one even more.
Big demand this year!
OK, now its time for the 1800R vs the Rxtx comparison. Im going to pick one of these up at the boat show this year in Louisville.
Wrong skis to compare. The RXP-X and GP1800R SVHO are more comparable. We'll have a video shortly.
Would you still recommend the '21 FX SVHO over this '21 GP1800R SVHO for rough sea water aka ocean/beach/sandbar riding only? the fact that this now has more features from the FX like the digital screen makes it a lot more tempting
I second this question
No, this is a RACE CRAFT designed for rough water/closed course RACING. Buy a naturally aspirated FX Cruiser and leave the pure bred race crafts for people who are going to ride it like it was designed.
What’s the difference in speed between the 2021 gp ho and svho
Peek top speed in optimal conditions? 6-8mph.
YAMAHA : G.P. 1800 R SVHO :
SUPER POTENTE MOTOR : WAVE RUNNERS : AGILIDADES : VELOCIDADES :
EMOÇÃO !!!! PRAZER !!!! PILOTAR !!!!! YAMAHA .................
Los mejores!
Do you think that it would be more convenient to have a touch screen to operate the pin code function? Did you try? Just curious.
I reckon it’s actually better to have the buttons because the touch screen can be a little uncomfortable to reach and scroll through screens
The security code operates like a tumbler combination lock. Using the UP or DOWN arrows work fine.
Please do a rough water test with these,, It will make my final decision whether or not to buy
It'll be next year, as units will not be available until much later.
They’re really good in the chop. Yamahas hull design is so much more advanced than all the other brands. If you go look at the off shore races and pro water cross races the top five is usually only Yamaha.
It’s pretty solid in the choppy water, we just bought one the beginning of summer and it’s a blast
My 1999 Waverunner SUV 1200 is having engine trouble again... seems every year at this point. This may be a good replacement, i wish yamaha would make another SUV though.
LOL. The SUV and Sea-Doo LRV were neat, weren't they?
Are the speakers actually worth getting? Like can you hear them when riding at top speed and how do they sound?
First, it's a hot rod so putting speakers on it baffles me. Second, no you won't hear them at WOT.
No, no way...especially when you’re going 86 MPH with a Riva Stage 2 kit.
;-)
Just want to ask. If you had to pick between seadoo and Yamaha which would you go for and why ??. For seadoo gtx ltd vs the waverrunner fx svho also wokould be amazing if you do a video against them . Love from Malta love your videos hope you answere
Sorry, this topic is reserved for a later article/video.
The Watercraft Journal ohh okay just wanted to ask that’s all but at least it’s gonna be done
I'm taking delivery on my 21 GP1800R HO tomorrow and I'm beyond excited. Quick question...I didn't get the audio package but was thinking about mounting the EcoXGear® Bluetooth® speakers, integrated ¼-20 RAM mounts. On Yamaha's website it doesn't list the 2021 GP1800 has being compatible, only the EX and VX. The GP1800 comes with a multi-mount system so shouldn't it be compatible or is it different?.
No. The 2021 GP does NOT have the multi-mount system. You will have to drill into your ski and manually attach these. Also note that the EcoXgear speakers drown out at around 45mph.
@@watercraftjournal They do actually have multi-mount system and it is compatible. I put them on and while they are not as good as the factory installed speakers, they're less than half the price.
Will these internal changes in design ( placement fuel tank farther back and down) do anything for added stability when riding?
Please read the article (link in video description), as it details everything you're asking.
When are they going to come to all dealers?
Deliveries are happening currently.
What video camera did you use for the overhead action shots ?
The drone shots? No clue. We hired a guy.
@@watercraftjournal I’ve heard of 360 cameras... I thought maybe you guys used one.
I have a 2021 GP1800R HO and it is very fast....love it and the handling. If I was being honest, the green put me off on the SVHO. If I could have ordered an SVHO in the black/Res combo I probably would have went that way.
Great video review. 👍
Oh wait, yes. Kevin has a Insta360 camera he uses on a short pole that he literally tucks into the back of his life vest.
@@watercraftjournal yes, that’s what I’m interested in. Any other details on his set up ?
That's literally it. An Insta360 and their telescoping pole.
Thanks.
You're welcome!
Great video Kevin 🤙
What can we expect for the next 21’ GP1800R SVHO video
Next? Next what? Yamaha pried this out of my hands and gave it to a racer. The media relations dept. won't provide me a loaner at all.
I was wondering if you will be going to RIVA in the near future to test and review a modded ski??
Maaaybe.
Base coat clear coat paint again? Soft or hard bond flange( bump rail)?
Yes, it is a painted hull and deck. This won't be changing any time soon.
Hi, I want to know, how is the fuel consumption of this GP? Did you try cruising speed? I ask because I going to buy a Waverunner for long distance, 1000 miles, and a want to have confort. Is that a good choice the GP?
FX HO is probably the better model. The SVHO engines burn more fuel than the HO
The FX or FX Cruiser would suit your needs better. Kevin Shaw of the watercraft Journal is releasing a auxiliary fuel talk system that would be a great addition for long trip.
Yes and yes. If you stay out of the boost (40-45mph) you'll average about 5.4mpg.
Thanks a lot!! Fix ho is going to be my choice!!!
@@jean-guyveillette6833 I have the same issue. SVHO or HO? I calculate that on average you'll get an extra 46 to 50kms per tank ( 70L tank) with the HO over SVHO.
Man it looks awesome. I just ordered a 2021 GP1800r HO in Black/Neon lava. But that blue SVHO looks so good!! Tempted to change my order. What to do?!?!?
Give me the HO(?)
Black and Lime Green is the SVHO, not HO. Make sure you understand the difference and order the right one!
@@watercraftjournal I do know the difference. In Canada the HO comes in red/white or black/red. They call the red...neon lava. It's black, matte grey and red. Yes the SVHO is black and lime kawasaki green. Love that blue, but still debate the supercharger. I do a lot of long tours and worry about fuel mileage ( not the cost of fuel), but don't want to hear the low fuel alarm and not be near a pump!
@@watercraftjournal in USA it's black and torch red. In Canada it's black and neon lava. Weird!
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. (Why name it differently in CAN vs. USA?) You have to understand how many people here DON'T know the differences between the HO and SVHO. It's baffling.
Didnt sound like cavitation on take off is nearly gone. It sounded like it was banging the limiter just like all the gp's before it.
Yes, that's the rev limiter. There's some initial cavitation from a standstill, and that's why the prop is freewheeling a little first. But the launch is demonstrably improved.
@@watercraftjournal Cant wait to ride one. I wanted a little more coverage of the active trim while turning. Some audio clips of the ski. We race buoys a lot and are wondering if it will make the cut.
No. A skilled rider will fare better going manual - at least for now. I found that it's a little clunky and frankly, Scott Watkins noted it was another gimmick added to fluff the sales brochure.
How is the auto trim? How would the 2021 compare 2020 with Riva GEN2 Intake grate?
It requires a bit of a learning curve. And frankly, we find that most programs that think for the rider, aren't smart enough. The new intake grate IS the RIVA G2 grate, so you're good there. The difference is the machined housing and new re-aligned weight distribution.
@@watercraftjournal I think I heard the housing could be added to the 2020s. The weight distribution is an interesting thing. The rider is going to impact that so much it might not really net anything. Sounds like the auto trim will need some work.
Yes, you can machine your transom plate - you don't need to swap it out with an old one. (Racers have been doing it for years.) You don't need the auto trim, don't fret. The biggest issue is the weight distribution. You're just not going to replicate that easy.
Will you be doing a review on the 2022 gp1800r svho any time soon ?
No. There's no changes for '22 so just look at this one.
Hello! The new GP1800 r Svho 2021 0-30 0-50 0-60 mph?
0-to-60 in 3.9-seconds
Hello,
Looking to buy 2021 Yamaha GP1800R HO.
I heard bad opinions from people who already purchased Yamaha skis made in 2021
2021 Yamaha ski owners saying that skis built quality very poor compare to previous years.
I do believe in this because of the pandemic situation globally and shortage of employees.
I also believe that Yamaha skis for 2021 very poor quality because of high demand and rush in manufacturing them.
Could you please advise what to look for if will be considering to buy Yamaha 2021 gp1800r ho?
Many thanks in advance
Please see our other videos on these EXACT concerns.
Thanks for reply
Could point me where are those videos.
Unfortunately I can’t find any videos for this particular 2021 GP1800R HO
Thanks
We literally just published a video on Yamaha Quality Control last week.
Watercraft Journal, I just broke in a new 2021 GP 1800R SVHO and noticed on "cold starts" (ski has not been started for a day or two) it will idle rough for a few seconds and sometimes shuts off, requiring a second start. After idling for a few seconds it settles out, and runs smooth with no additional starting issues during a day of riding. Do you know if this is common for the 1800 series engines? Thanks.
Depending upon air temperature, elevation and battery charge it's common for big displacement engines of every kind.
Thanks, appreciate the info.
Interesting review thanks. Always owned Kawasaki's and currently in the market to buy my 4th one. But they seem lazy and made minimal changes in the past years. How do you compare the GHP1800R to the 310R? Will keep an eye on a review on the 2021 300R when it is released soon - but a comparison video would be great. Watching this I am very tempted to swap from Kawasaki to Yamaha!!
The two are VERY different machines. The Ultra 310 is a full-sized, rough water machine; not a nimble, lightweight closed course musclecraft. If anything I'd compare the 310 to a FX SVHO or RXT-X 300.
@@watercraftjournal ok I will do that research, most of my riding is 70% ocean, 30% calm water - so am I assuming you are suggesting the GP1800 is not for me?
Wrong tool for the job. Consider a FX HO or SVHO.
Hi Kevin, I am planning to buy 2021 GP1800R HO. This will be my first ski. We are expecting it in Australia by December. The only color option we have is Black and Red (I can hardly see red in it 🤣 Lol...) Shall I go ahead and book it or do you recommend any other model? Appreciate your feedback. Thank you.
Piyush Dange the HO is a great “starter” powertrain. The ski is lightweight and meant for sporty riding so don’t expect it to be a cushy cruiser - but I presume you already know that. It should be a lot of fun! Enjoy!
@@watercraftjournal Thanks a ton Kevin! Yes, I know. I am more interested in sporty ride than a cruiser 😇. Cheers!
Do you think you could cruise for long distances on it? And how do you think it handles rough water?
Sure. You could ride a unicycle on a marathon too, but it's not meant for that. The GP is a RACE CRAFT designed for rough water/closed course RACING.
Which do you think would be best for having people skiing behind for several hours at a time? The GP or FX. Is the GP ho and svho completely the same except the supercharger?
FX HO
Hi, great review and welly detailed. But i'm goin to buy my first jet ski, liked the GP 1800 SVHO 2021 ( because i often ride my friend's one ) but a professional recommend me an FX SVHO 2021. We usually ride in the Atlantic Ocean. Would like to have your thoughts. Thanks
For your first ski? Get the naturally aspirated FX HO.
@@watercraftjournal Thanks for your suggestion. Why not the FX SVHO, since we've been using the 2018 GP 1800 SVHO since 2 years? And will it wave jump? I like the handling, the aggressiveness and the speed of it.
ALL manufacturers strongly request that you do not jump their machines.
Did Yamaha add launch control to the 2021 SVHO's?
Yes!
I was still hearing the same amount of rev limiter bump on your takeoff. Maybe 2022 will have a electronic nozzle cone 😉
I need one Kevin !🌞🤙🙌 Thanks for the information ! I really like SVHO ! So how is the difference from the 2021 GP1800R HO cause I'm leaning towards this one ! Just wondering long term with the supercharger ! I'd rather get the SVHO ... Arizona lakes are calling me 🌞
If you’re on the fence, get the HO.
Amazing review.....thank you
Glad you liked it!
OK, which one is better the GP 1800 R or the Kawasaki 310 R?
Is there a system or after market upgrade that would allow me to carry a cooler? Something like they seadoo Linq system?
There's no shortage of aftermarket rack builders. We work closely with Kool PWC Stuff. Find them online - they've got a huge catalog of American-made products.
Is the 12v outlet and blue accent light included when you choose to add the speakers? Or is it a separate option all together?
It's not an option, but an accessory. You'll have to have a dealer install it.
Whos is better for a racing in a circuit?
Seadoo 300 or Yamaha?
Whos Yamaha
I prefeer Yamaha
Sorry i don't speak English :((
We're pretty sure you've already got your answer.
Does anybody know if you can turn automatic trim off so you can manually set it for jumping waves?
1. Yes. It turns off. And 2. This PWC is NOT meant for jumping waves, and the OE's don't want you doing that.
It’s really really cool but I personally don’t like how much plastic there is and how the new hood looks and I also have my 2019 fx svho.
It looks a lot better in person.
what lake is this at ?
Allatoona, GA.
so do the speakers have bluetooth
Yes, they are Bluetooth controlled.
@@watercraftjournal How did the speakers sound? Worth the additional $800?
How will this ski hold up salt water wave jumping
Manufacturers strongly advise against wave jumping.
The Watercraft Journal should I get the ho for that?
Get something you don't care to ruin if you're looking to go wave jumping, like a Spark or 30 year old WaveBlaster.
The Watercraft Journal any info on the new clutch is it like deans team clutch
I gotta try one.
Yeah you do.
Does the 2021 FX get the changes to the supercharger? Does it get or did it already have the changes the 1800 got this year to the pump?
All good questions. The supercharger clutch is updated on all SVHO engines, so yes. The transom plate, no. That's exclusive to the GP.
Awesome, thanks Kevin
I think my 19 gp1800r is BAD ASS but this new one is... making me a little sad i didnt wait
There's no way you could've known!
The Watercraft Journal the screen is what hurst the most 😫
Looks kinda like it was filmed in GA somewhere.
It was!
We live here in in Southwest Idaho We've got many lakes near us. And me and the wife are looking at getting a pair of these for ourselves with all the bells and whistles is what my wife says. But she's wondering if she can just fish on this thing She's like looking for fish storage for her poles and I'm like well you just carry them along with the where your feet are basically or we get some sort of a little tow behind for this thing like a floating tow behind I don't know. But thank you so much for your videos keep making more videos I used you so I could figure out whether or not we wanted to get into a Yamaha or not And yeah we want to get into a Yamaha I've always liked Yamaha
You definitely DO NOT want this machine. 100% no go. Strongly consider the FX HO and Yamaha's fishing accessories. Go to Yamaha's website and start browsing. We have a couple of articles on FX Yamahas equipped for fishing at www.watercraftjournal.com to look over.
I really wish I can find a review that compars this to the seadoo 300s gtx/rtx
Totally different sized machines. The comparable Yamaha is the FX platform.
Thanks for the vid. Can’t wait. Bro I reckon you should wear a helmet. I do every time I ride. I also recommend side entry jet pilot life jacket, great armor.
I wear helmets only on standups. And Slippery Wetsuits' Neo Side-Entry is a far better-fitting vest (which is what I'm wearing in this video). Slippery's molds and fitmet are dramatically superior to any other brand. That's why they're the only brand I wear.
Are you reviewing the fx cruiser svho ?
Not this year as it is 100% unchanged from last year (besides colors).
Please do the 2021 fx svho!!!!!!
It’s unchanged for 2021, so you can watch our 2020 reviews and be up to speed no problem.
Have been on a couple supercharged skis and got the bug for one and decided my first ski will be this one, can not wait for it to come to Australia, if youre a complete idiot and can't respect a powerful machine do not get on one its that simple, im not the most experienced but am definitely not oblivious to the fact this thing is a weapon! Can't wait to get my hands on one and do some work to it @watercraftjournal
Clearly you can see why I try to steer people away from buying a SVHO-powered GP. Most folks who have them shouldn't. -K
@@watercraftjournal gotta respect the machine
I love my 2020 best ski I've owned, looks like Yamaha solved 90% of my complaints in the 2021
...except it's near impossible to get one.
@@watercraftjournal i jumped right at the 5year extended, planned on trade up, but held for the exact reason you mentioned, lack of availability
When will Yamaha adopt closed loop cooling ? I couldn’t own a craft that had the horrid water jet squirrelling into the air behind my back.
Literally never.
You can get rid of that visibility safety spout for 9.00. It is water from pump not engine. I did it on mine in 10 minutes. Closed loop does not work as good as open. Heatsink in supercharged engines with/without mods is bad. Besides the fact that you can't mod ride plate for handling improvements.
you realize the visibility spout has literally NOTHING to do with cooling...its an added safety feature that can be disabled.
Mark's World the visibility spout a safety measure? ha !
My beef isn’t only with the stupid looking spout, it’s the whole idea of running corrosive sea water through an aluminium alloy cylinder block !
@@maxflight777 lol its a non issue...sea doo has a shit ton of flaws...open loop cooling is better, more reliable and isnt an issue...regardless you need to flush any salt water jetski....sea doo still uses salt water to cool intercooler and all the pump system is subjected to salt as well...the same time required to flush a seadoo with closed loop cooling is no different than a yamaha....wait till you have a cooling line come off out in the ocean and your out of coolant and cant go anywhere. Yamaha...tighten coolant line and ride on. Thats if your carbon seal doesnt fail and sink first
That thing is badass. Makes my FX look like a tank. Lol
The FX can hold its own, but yes, this is a monster.
I just watched this video again for at least the 20th time. I can’t wait to to get my GP1800R SVHO. It is going to be a long 8 months.
Thank you! Please share it with everyone!
I already have.
And just watched again.
Great review, thanks for sharing Kevin. You know the million dollar question your viewers have? Which ski will take the title of top dog on the block for 2021? Now that Sea-Doo has released their newest RXP-X
Billy D
Billy D
I'll have an upcoming video and article on that.
Yamaha really trying to dampen the Seadoo new model release. Putting out a lot of TH-cam videos the same time Seadoo announcing new models. If someone is in the market for a Sport model they sure do have some awesome choices to pick from.
Edit: looking at the Yamaha videos I just realized it Yamaha Australia videos.
Admittedly, there's almost a month's separation between the two's releases. Our review unfortunately, landed almost exactly on the same day, so we pushed it back a couple of days.
Oh my god oh my god oh my God I can’t wait to get this damn thing I am 100 times worse than a kid the night before Christmas hey by the way do you guys think that this redesign on the supercharger clutch will make it Last longer
Less slippage means less heat; less heat means less weakening. So yup!
Are you guys at lake allatoona!! I recognize the dam lol
Yup
Cool they finally added a stereo. Sucks no sub woofer upgrade tho
Meh, it's a racecraft anyway. Who needs all that extra weight?
Really wish they would make small PWCs again. These are bulky AF
The EXR and Spark are the closest we'll get to the small 1-seaters of the 1990s.
I want one
Same here.
Tell yamaha..there is a flaw. When you reboard and attempt to grab the handle...you can't. The rear seat removal button is in the way. True design flaw.
Never once have we encountered this. Yours is the first complaint we've heard.
Finally...it doesn't look like a catfish anymore
LOL!
Fast skis, plenty of people well over 80 with them on flat water. FX Cruiser or Ultra will outrun it on rough water (i.e. a typical weekend with boat chop everywhere). Also prefer fiberglass hull on the Ultra
That used to be the case, yes. But Ultras have been surpassed in offshore racing by GPs and FXs 10-fold (apart from Pastorello's Mark Hahn setup). The AquaX results sheet prove this.
In flatter conditions they do ok, but just look at the two hulls. For heavy chop (2-3 ft+) little question which one is superior, and again the fiberglass hulls are more durable. The "10 fold" is more a reflection of Yamaha's ongoing support for the sport and deeper pockets, Kawasaki hasn't done much at all. Until recently at least the MH was dominated by Ultras (for many years)
"Kawasaki’s Ultra retains the industry’s most aggressive deadrise and the heftiest weight, giving the craft both incredible rough water comfort (ie. insulation) as well as instinctual handling and proven tracking. This all comes at a cost, and the 310-horsepower Kawasaki’s fuel consumption while getting the craft to plane is substantial." watercraftjournal.com/understanding-what-makes-a-good-rough-water-hull-design/
There are so many morons are various forums chasing speed on glass but all that means exactly nothing on a typical packed weekend with unpredictable boat chop. Ultra is still king in those conditions.
Agreed on your last comment; but you quoting my article doesn't prove your point - in fact, it proves mine. But the GP and FX certainly have dethroned the once-king. The facts are written all over the scoreboard, Mark.
Damn guess I may trade in my svho now. 😕
Let us know if you do!
@@watercraftjournal why? You sell them?
LOL no, but we're always interested when we help influence a purchase.
@@watercraftjournal the one I got is one of the fastest you lot tested tho remember the fx svho carbon? The green and grey one? But it doesn't have launch control and the new steering!
the reaction of the acceleration in the start of the vid when u push the gas is enoying me :(
And it was entirely legitimate.
Kevin needs to grow his hair longer.....hard to see the wind in his hair when IT NEVER MOVES......😂
LOL! I did long hair once. Never again. I looked like Braveheart. -K
Its truly ana amazing machine, I have the exact same one. W. just a maptuner x and an engine breather hose, it will hit 76 w a full tank of gas in hot fl weather.
Yeah it’s killer.
I am buying one
Awesome! Let us know when you do!
Ok im sold , yamaha it is
Nice
I think the 2020 gp1800r model is a better looking jet ski.
Some do, but the performance gains are remarkable.
@@watercraftjournal that's true but I like the other design
Okay...I’m irritated. I stopped riding a few years ago thanks to many Modding Anonymous meetings :-)
...and NOW I WANT ONE OF THESE. PHUCK!
Go for it!
Sea doos are better:
- More accomodations for people
- New IDF System
- Close loop cooling system
- Depth finder
- More options for people like fish jetski and tow jetskis, etc.
- Dual Display (Bigger than Yamahas)
Mind you, Yamahas can tow and fish too, they just don't dedicate a whole unit to one job. You can accessorize any FX or VX to be a "fishing ski."
Seadoos have a carbon seal that fails. Then they sink! Closed loop cooling is not necessarily better either. There are pros and cons with every brand, however to say they are better than Yamaha/Kawasaki? Seadoo are not as reliable and don't handle as well, but the ergolock seating is awesome. The design of Seadoo is nice too. I think the best would be a Kawasaki Ultra hull, Seadoo top deck with ergolock, and Yamaha engine/pump. 😁🙂
@@jasonbourne3448 lmao okay JAs0n BoUrNe
@@z6316 that's my real name. Same middle name too. Don't wear it out. Lol.
SeaDoooont junk!
I’m so flipping pissed, I don’t want my 2020 GP anymore. 😭
Men the 2020 is a great design i love both of them🤩🤩
JETRIDES absolutely! So will you buy my 20 so I can get a 21 🙏🏻😁
LOL! This is the best comment. Yeah, there's a major difference between the two.
This is HOW a Yamaha Waverunner is supposed to be ridden!
th-cam.com/video/n5aGd0lgb60/w-d-xo.html
Actually, it's the exact opposite of the manufacturer's recommendations. We're glad you're safe and enjoying yourself but for the vast majority of folks coming here for info, we strongly advise against it.
Full send with these bad boys. Not everyone wants to ride lakes and rivers and live a boring life. Send it as high as you can till the hull cracks lol. And don’t forget to review the 2020-2021 hulls that flake apart lol
I love my 18 gp1800. The new one looks a little cheap with all that plastic.
It's not so bad. There's nearly as much plastic on yours as there is on this.
Very likely you are correct but I do not like the black trim on the front and rear. Looks a little cheap (EX like.) On a different note, what is your professional opinion on the FX? I am highly contemplating to trading in my GP for the FX SVHO because I heard the hull is larger and better for stability (I like fishing with my waverunner.)
The current FX hull is a personal favorite, but again, what is good for me may not be good for you.
Sucks they will never sell this ski in California. The pistol grips are banned.
LOL
So hard to watch your videos i should have just put a down payment on a new one :( but im like 23 and bearly have any credit but spent 10k on a super clean vxr eith less then 35 hours dude said it had no warranty i got took it out twice 2ed time it started ticking took it to the ramp then called to see if had warranty turns out it did so i took it in and the dude lied about the warranty because he sunk it the whole engine was full of water and it had multiple oil pressure warnings and other maintenance codes and didnt do anything and yahama said my warrantys voided The oil pressure codes were at 10 -25 hours and the dealer its at has paperwork of it:( it was at 45 hours when it started ticking with my mom on it.... i had the stuff to do the 50 hour maintenance 3.8 quarts of oil new oil filter and I even got the tube that sucks the oil out :[ i dont know what to do! Anyway yall could possibly help me? Thanks!
Oh man, that's awful. Please join the Greenhulk Performance group on Facebook and share your story. They're one of the best communities you can find.
@@watercraftjournalthank you i will!!! Hopefully ill catch yall on the water soon! 😭😭🤙🤙
Sea doo numbers are just more impressive
Except where it matters - like in ANY racing.
@@watercraftjournal that's why I have never lost to one I guess
Hating the video...😬
Sorry to hear that. :P
I think John may now need to buy one after watching your video or he put a deposit on the new rxp-x and is now regretting it!😂
The new rxp-x is better
In what regards?