Great upgrades. I especially like how you only flocked the secondary. A lot of people think you need to do the whole tube. That’s the biggest impact point,
Hi Garnett. Yes, although an 100% protostar flocking always benefit a newtonian, i would not flock the whole tube in a modern newtonian. This simple and inexpensive mod does the job and we can really notice that while observing. But first it's important to check any light leaks on the focuser with a torch. Many people would be surprised how much light intrusion happen in some focusers. Fortunately i've checked my new 8" and it's fine, no leaks, but in my 12" i had to fix it. Now it's fine.
Wow, some really useful tips. I've got an 8" F5 GSO (it''s quite similar to yours, I think must be same brand) and I think it could use some modifications like the ones you mention here. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Clear skies!
How about removal primary and secondary mirrors and painting the edges matte black and flocking the hole tube, you could also put in and dew cover to gave better views and keep stray light from the focuser and secondary mirror also check for stray light leaking at the focuser base, also don't forget the focuser tube you can paint that 2 matte black, clear skies mate.
Acho incrível que consiga ver objectos do céu profundo com poluição luminosa categoria 5! Basicamente é como se estivesse na cidade. Eu também consigo ver os mais brilhantes (nebulosa do Orionte, por exemplo) com binóculos, mas o brilho do céu estraga completamente a experiência. A propósito, estive a ver um mapa da poluição luminosa. A zona mais escura de Portugal é a Sul de Serpa e a norte de Mértola (entre essas duas localidades). Deve ser interessante visitar esse local de madrugada. 😁👍
Great video! Could you share the dimensions of the dovetail plate you used to attach the Telrad to the mount? I have been thinking of a triple mount for a while and seeing your video I will commit to it. Did you have to drill another hole in the standard Telrad mount to fit the 2nd screw or is 1 screw enough to hold it tight?
Thank you, Tiago. I like the way you simplify everything for the beginner. You are a good resource for someone starting from scratch. One thing I would like to request, could you do another collimation video? Your current one is very informative, but it is very long, and takes a long time to get to the actual collimation. You have gotten so good at the "short and sweet" videos that I think you'd be great at a quick-and-easy collimation video for total beginners. Thanks!
I may do that in the future but all my collimation only make sense to people that use the Concenter. My way to collimate is based on that simple tool, which i love. People that use all other tools have a bunch of other problems that i will not consider. That's why i didn't make that video yet.
Is it a good idea to upgrade the spring for the secondary mirror in a similar way as the upgrading the of springs for the primary mirror? Your tips have worked great with my 8" newtonian, thank you ever so much.
I don't think so because the pressure the central knob does against it along with the 3 knobs is strong enough. I never had a secondary mirror shifting ftom it's position. The trick is to have them very well tightened.
Looking through a black hole 🕳️! That's how I felt when I used my grandma's binoculars when I would put them really against my face the edges would feel like that of a black hole
Hi. My 21cm Dovetail is this one on Amazon but check also on chinese websites to compare prices and buy the cheapest one, they are all aluminum. Make sure they are equal to this one on Amazon though: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B092QN48B5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=keepitsimp06b-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B092QN48B5&linkId=6fdf6b2628f82058c8c492930b6226f1
Where did you get the tube end cap from? (different to the fabric one you had in previous video) Or does it come with the telescope? Another nice video - thank you
Sometimes Amazon sellers update the links. That one is better than mine, doubles the power and has the same USB 5V DC 5V 9V 12V. The brand is the same although you may find another that works, this one it seems is out of stock now. Yes, i used duct tape to stick the magnets to the UPS.
Link to US Amazon black sheets, check if it open please: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T5L7756/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=keepitsimp06b-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07T5L7756&linkId=9cf7d6993198f3af5ce0407ad617cc35
Yes i have. Only worth it if your secondary is too large. Usually is not. For ex.if i reduce my 8inch secondary i would have less light because it would cut too much the cone of light, it wouldn't catch all the light that come from the primary. Imagine a really tiny secondary, it makes less obstruction but also catch almost nothing. It should be the adequate measure, which almost it is in a new dobsonian. You check yours when collimating. If this still not very clear, ask me on live stream and i show you.
I'm from Portugal. On Bortle 9 the best chance you have is do EAA. Watch the objects through a camera. @@bahraintelescope1369 Watch the end of this video (from minute 30) if you need to see more about EAA action: th-cam.com/video/Mx0mxEcaZ_E/w-d-xo.html
yes but if you have a ZWO camera you can use ASI software with a tablet or smartphone and watch the objects. Otherwise you have to travel to a dark site. @@bahraintelescope1369
I know nothing about this hobby. However I’m considering purchasing an Explore Scientific First Light 8” Dobsonian telescope. This a good choice for a first set up? Anyone have better suggestions or advice for a complete noob?
@@DobsonianPower - yeah my research has been pointing me to this. Seems a bit more finicky than a refractor telescope but the bigger aperture seems to be the way to go. Also needs to be collimated bit seems to be a great unit to start. Thanks for the reply 🤙
@@DobsonianPower - does brand really make a difference? I’m still looking at an 8” Dobsonian but the one site I found in my area doesn’t have the Explore Scientific one in stock. However they have a Starfield 8” f/6 Dobsonian in stock. It has a fan on it. Is this Starfield unit worth 850 Canadian dollars? Or is there a brand that I should be looking at more than an other?
@@SimRacingVeteran Don't worry about the brand because the manufacturer use to be the same. That Starfield it seems it's equal to mine which is also equal to many other brands. They only change the sticker. If you want to check mine on Astroshop (click on the link and copy & paste the product NUMBER to their search bar): 8": GSO Dobson telescope N 200/1200 DOB Deluxe Version - NUMBER:14189 www.astroshop.eu/?affiliate_id=KeepitsimpleAstronomy
@@DobsonianPower - it seems to be the case the more I research the Dobsonians that they’re all mostly the same. I suppose the better quality eye pieces are going to make the difference. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
@@DobsonianPower I am ordering some neo's to try for a weight bag and attach a power source, as you have..if I may ask one other question..how do you feel about a dew shield? For example, one that would extend @ 12" above the opening to reduce effects of surrounding lighting as well as reduce dew?
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I have 2 videos about the 8" Dobsonian mods. Here is the other you should watch: th-cam.com/video/6cvjqBIR7cs/w-d-xo.html
Great upgrades. I especially like how you only flocked the secondary. A lot of people think you need to do the whole tube. That’s the biggest impact point,
Hi Garnett. Yes, although an 100% protostar flocking always benefit a newtonian, i would not flock the whole tube in a modern newtonian. This simple and inexpensive mod does the job and we can really notice that while observing. But first it's important to check any light leaks on the focuser with a torch. Many people would be surprised how much light intrusion happen in some focusers. Fortunately i've checked my new 8" and it's fine, no leaks, but in my 12" i had to fix it. Now it's fine.
@@DobsonianPower how do you check for a light leak? Any video on that?
@@suwandicahyadi9213
th-cam.com/video/71rkZhnrwAc/w-d-xo.html
Wow, some really useful tips. I've got an 8" F5 GSO (it''s quite similar to yours, I think must be same brand) and I think it could use some modifications like the ones you mention here. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Clear skies!
Amazing video Tiago!! Very useful Tips!! I will try Some Of These 6 inch Newtonian! Thanks For Sharing!👍🏻
Thanks Avanteesh
How about removal primary and secondary mirrors and painting the edges matte black and flocking the hole tube, you could also put in and dew cover to gave better views and keep stray light from the focuser and secondary mirror also check for stray light leaking at the focuser base, also don't forget the focuser tube you can paint that 2 matte black, clear skies mate.
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Acho incrível que consiga ver objectos do céu profundo com poluição luminosa categoria 5! Basicamente é como se estivesse na cidade. Eu também consigo ver os mais brilhantes (nebulosa do Orionte, por exemplo) com binóculos, mas o brilho do céu estraga completamente a experiência.
A propósito, estive a ver um mapa da poluição luminosa. A zona mais escura de Portugal é a Sul de Serpa e a norte de Mértola (entre essas duas localidades). Deve ser interessante visitar esse local de madrugada. 😁👍
I'd say upgrade the fan too Noctua will run quiet, push more air and not vibrate as much
Great video! Could you share the dimensions of the dovetail plate you used to attach the Telrad to the mount? I have been thinking of a triple mount for a while and seeing your video I will commit to it. Did you have to drill another hole in the standard Telrad mount to fit the 2nd screw or is 1 screw enough to hold it tight?
No drill. Links: 21cm Dovetail i use with the Telrad:
amzn.to/3fCn8BK
Tri-bracket mount:
amzn.to/34RZrDr
Thank you, Tiago. I like the way you simplify everything for the beginner. You are a good resource for someone starting from scratch.
One thing I would like to request, could you do another collimation video? Your current one is very informative, but it is very long, and takes a long time to get to the actual collimation. You have gotten so good at the "short and sweet" videos that I think you'd be great at a quick-and-easy collimation video for total beginners. Thanks!
I may do that in the future but all my collimation only make sense to people that use the Concenter. My way to collimate is based on that simple tool, which i love. People that use all other tools have a bunch of other problems that i will not consider. That's why i didn't make that video yet.
Thank you very much!
👍👍
Great information
👍👍
I love me some bang for the buck 😎
Is it a good idea to upgrade the spring for the secondary mirror in a similar way as the upgrading the of springs for the primary mirror? Your tips have worked great with my 8" newtonian, thank you ever so much.
I don't think so because the pressure the central knob does against it along with the 3 knobs is strong enough. I never had a secondary mirror shifting ftom it's position. The trick is to have them very well tightened.
Great video. I tried the first tip but tbh the end result was flocking sheet....
TAXI!!
On the way!
@@DobsonianPower 😄
Seriously though, really appreciated the tips here - am about to order my first telescope: an 8" Dob, so these tips are perfect!
@@UTubeSL Great!! You'll love it.
Looking through a black hole 🕳️! That's how I felt when I used my grandma's binoculars when I would put them really against my face the edges would feel like that of a black hole
Many thanks
Thank you!
Hello, Very much enjoyed your video! Can you tell me what Dovetail Plate you used under the Telrad? Thank You!
Hi. My 21cm Dovetail is this one on Amazon but check also on chinese websites to compare prices and buy the cheapest one, they are all aluminum. Make sure they are equal to this one on Amazon though: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B092QN48B5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=keepitsimp06b-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B092QN48B5&linkId=6fdf6b2628f82058c8c492930b6226f1
Where did you get the tube end cap from? (different to the fabric one you had in previous video) Or does it come with the telescope? Another nice video - thank you
I have the links at the description. You can buy it here Dust covers:
🇪🇺bit.ly/astrozapcover
Apollo released some new dobsonians, i'm thinking on getting the 160f1300. What do y'all think?
The power bank from the link is not the power bank you used in this video.
Did you use duct tape to hold the magnets in place on the power bank?
Sometimes Amazon sellers update the links. That one is better than mine, doubles the power and has the same USB 5V DC 5V 9V 12V. The brand is the same although you may find another that works, this one it seems is out of stock now. Yes, i used duct tape to stick the magnets to the UPS.
Do any of these tips apply to six inch dobs? Thanks!
Yes they do
Thank you for the great tips!! What flocking did you use from amazon?
Link to US Amazon black sheets, check if it open please:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T5L7756/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=keepitsimp06b-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07T5L7756&linkId=9cf7d6993198f3af5ce0407ad617cc35
@@DobsonianPower thank you so much!!!
I didn't see the link for the magnetic power bank, can you give me the link please? Thank you!
Is not magnetic, i've added a strap. Mini UPS power supply i use in all Dobsonian Telescopes:
From USA amzn.to/3Ic6vct
ive read of ppl who install a smaller secondary, for improved contrast/more light. Any comments on this?
Yes i have. Only worth it if your secondary is too large. Usually is not. For ex.if i reduce my 8inch secondary i would have less light because it would cut too much the cone of light, it wouldn't catch all the light that come from the primary. Imagine a really tiny secondary, it makes less obstruction but also catch almost nothing. It should be the adequate measure, which almost it is in a new dobsonian. You check yours when collimating. If this still not very clear, ask me on live stream and i show you.
Wonderful, Thank You.😇 Does Dobsonian benefit to look at nebulae? For example the Helix nebula
I have beautiful images of the Helix nebula and i can see it through an eyepiece in my bortle 5 sky but without the colors
@@DobsonianPower
😅Lol🤣 i have bortle 9. i am from bahrain asia and you are from germany right?
I'm from Portugal. On Bortle 9 the best chance you have is do EAA. Watch the objects through a camera.
@@bahraintelescope1369 Watch the end of this video (from minute 30) if you need to see more about EAA action: th-cam.com/video/Mx0mxEcaZ_E/w-d-xo.html
@@DobsonianPower
Thank Your Very Much. Do We Need A Laptop?
yes but if you have a ZWO camera you can use ASI software with a tablet or smartphone and watch the objects. Otherwise you have to travel to a dark site.
@@bahraintelescope1369
I know nothing about this hobby.
However I’m considering purchasing an Explore Scientific First Light 8” Dobsonian telescope.
This a good choice for a first set up?
Anyone have better suggestions or advice for a complete noob?
3 words: GO FOR IT
@@DobsonianPower - yeah my research has been pointing me to this.
Seems a bit more finicky than a refractor telescope but the bigger aperture seems to be the way to go. Also needs to be collimated bit seems to be a great unit to start.
Thanks for the reply 🤙
@@DobsonianPower - does brand really make a difference?
I’m still looking at an 8” Dobsonian but the one site I found in my area doesn’t have the Explore Scientific one in stock.
However they have a Starfield 8” f/6 Dobsonian in stock. It has a fan on it. Is this Starfield unit worth 850 Canadian dollars?
Or is there a brand that I should be looking at more than an other?
@@SimRacingVeteran Don't worry about the brand because the manufacturer use to be the same. That Starfield it seems it's equal to mine which is also equal to many other brands. They only change the sticker. If you want to check mine on Astroshop (click on the link and copy & paste the product NUMBER to their search bar):
8": GSO Dobson telescope N 200/1200 DOB Deluxe Version - NUMBER:14189
www.astroshop.eu/?affiliate_id=KeepitsimpleAstronomy
@@DobsonianPower - it seems to be the case the more I research the Dobsonians that they’re all mostly the same.
I suppose the better quality eye pieces are going to make the difference.
Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
what did you use to attach the telrad?
Hi. It's in the description. These are the links you want: 21cm Dovetail i use with the Telrad:
amzn.to/3fCn8BK
Tri-bracket mount:
amzn.to/34RZrDr
@@DobsonianPower is it stuck to the 21cm plate or bolted to it?
@@waynegarrett1614 bolted. I used 2 screws, 2 washers and 2 nuts i had at home. It's an easy thing to do because the holes are already there.
@@DobsonianPower thank you, I just order it
It's a very very nice mod. Strong, simple and reliable and your neck also will thank you 🙂
What magnets are you using?
Just old radio magnets
@@DobsonianPower I am ordering some neo's to try for a weight bag and attach a power source, as you have..if I may ask one other question..how do you feel about a dew shield? For example, one that would extend @ 12" above the opening to reduce effects of surrounding lighting as well as reduce dew?
@@jeffholder8018 i have one. It helps and it's made of simple black foam sheet. I left a space to place the hand when moving the telescope