The Absorbalof was always the most terrifying fate to me. Weeping Angels were creepy, but they either send you back in time which is fine, or snap your neck. That's a quick death, that's fine. Being absorbed, dammed to live forever as a face on Peter Kay's butt is a horror beyond comprehension. The fact the Absorbalof was mentioned twice on this list is proof of that.
I honestly can't feel bad for Donna. She ended up with a loving husband that wasn't an agent for an ancient race of super spiders, a supportive family and a guaranteed winning lotto ticket. There are companions that wish they could have had an ending like that.
I agree-I think devoted husband and kid can make up for the mother. Also, Donna did lose personal growth, but she could grow again once back home. Also, Donna didn't want to die-she wanted to stay with the Doctor, which wasn't possible, so the Doctor chose mindwipe to preserve her life. I actually like Donna's ending because it's interesting (and it crushed me when I first saw it)-I hope it isn't totally undone in the 60th.
I feel like there was a bit missed on the "Turned Into a Cyberman" bit. I remember in the Parallel Earth episodes when they turned off the emotional inhibitor on one cyberman that'd tracked the Doctor and Mrs Moore down; and it turned out to be a woman named Sally who'd been converted on the night before her wedding, asking where her soon-to-be husband was, insisting he couldn't see her because it was unlucky before the wedding I remember that bit broke my heart when I first watched that.
Amnesiac here! This is... very accurate. Even the way the doctor looks at her, knowing that his best friend is gone, and she doesnt even know that theres anything missing in her. My parents looked at me like that to start with. My headcanon is that donna doesnt remember her time with the doctor, but despite the character development being undone by the amnesia, she still starts to change for the better, the memory wipe being your memories NOT your core personality. The memories never come back, but donna starts to become herself again and forges onward
I'm still sad/crying to what happened to Donna Noble. I really liked her and the dynamic/chemistry between & the 10th Doctor. It was priceless, a pure joy to watch.
Everything sad in DW is retconnable, + likely to get returned to eventually even if only in side-canons. That's always been how it has got away with itself
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To me her narration seemed like someone bored who’s not a fan and just nit picking everything and not in a funny but more cynical as if she hates the show
I think President Barusa (I think that’s his name) deserves a spot on this list. In the Five Doctors he was made immortal but trapped at the foot of Rassilon’s tomb, still conscious but forever immobilised.
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There is no better character in Doctor Who than Jack Harkness. And no better actor for it than John Barrowman. No one else could pull that off and still keep him both sorrowful and hopeful. But for Donna at #1, you got that right.
The fate that happened to Owen Harper in torchwood is a fate worse than death because he died, and came back to life as a corpse with knowing what happens after death.
Peri did have a father complex, so her marriage actually makes sense. She wanted a father figure and I can easily imagine her in a huge fur covered bed, with her husband and loads of kids playing around in their bed chamber.
The obvious choice for this list was the fate that the doctor literally said was worse than death in an episode. The clerics getting their lives erased in Flesh and Stone.
Whilst these are fate worst then death, the afterlife is worst , a black void where you see no one but hear them , still psychicly linked to your corpse, and chased by duroc lord of the dead.
The faceless trope from ST Charlie X in 1966 to new Who always seems to ignore one little item. Without an emergency tracheotomy in under 2 minutes they'd all have suffocated.
I get how horrific Cyberconversion is in the modern series, but in the original, it was done to preserve the Mondasian race, similar to Ice Warriors and maybe also Daleks. Horrible, yes, but also necessary (depending on if you believe Davros with reference to Daleks)
I think the man Donna met in the library was a descendant of her's, because she's getting married when the tenth Doctor is dying. Perhaps motherhood changed her back into something like the Donna who was the travelling with the Doctor.
What about those time cracks, and, well, anything along that particular line? Then there's what the Great Intelligence did to the 11th Doctor, which really affected ALL of them (or, at least all the previous ones, minus the War Doctor) and what that subsaquently did to, well, absolutely EVERYONE else.
I’m just thinking that the guy that has that alien technology implemented on his forehead and can’t remove it while only having someone snapping their fingers in order for him to be utterly humiliated when he disobeyed the Christopher Eccleston’s Doctor Who would possibly fit into this in some way.
Having to live the rest of your life trying to hide a pop-up door in you forehead every time someone snaps their fingers. He might end up a someone caught by a government, who tries to discover how this alien tech works. He's firmly strapped down in Area 51.
@@westzed23 well, he shouldn’t have pissed off the Doctor and Rose by trying to have future technology while also using the phone that the Doctor and Rose had given him to record alien technology that he was told not to tamper with while he was thinking about how it could have improved his finances and intelligence.
I still think Owen Harper should have been on there. For all of the people who don't know who that is, he was a torchwood member who died. He was then brought back to life and couldn't die again. Like Jack you might think. But no... He was a walking corpse. He couldn't feel which ment that sex was useless, he couldn't eat, and he couldn't drink. Those where all his favorite things. To top it of, he could never heal. So every wound he would get would continue to be there forever. His feelings where gone too, so no more love for him. He did end up being disintegrated but the last year of his existence was a "living" hell.
Donna led a great life after the doctor and thankfully she came back during the Christmas specials in 2023 and it was shown she had a daughter and there was a huge and amazing storyline there.
It takes the right personality to be able to handle immortality. Jack, for the most part, has been able to do so. Quite fortunate. Otherwise, he'd become the type of villain that would rival the Master who is the Doctor's deadliest foe. Not even Lady Me could handle it as she grew to despise the Doctor despite seeing him as a friend.
First time I watched the Episode Rose, I thought 'now Clive will know what it's like when he is called crazy & people don't believe him when he says that he's seen something'. The gentleman who plays Clive was in Look and Read series Earth Warp, where he played chef, who put a star sticker on Martin's telescope. Only when he is out for a stroll & whistles, does he meet Ollie's spaceship & then tries to tell Martin, that now he believes Martin
In regards to Son-of-mine, when I first saw The Flux episode with the Angels, I thought the distant figure lit from behind was him, though it turned out to just be an Angel coming for Yaz and Dan. Still, the brief visual where it looks like a scarecrow is either a great Easter egg, or an even better unintentional one.
I have a recommendation Being Trapped in a Dream/World that is not real. Donna Noble was trapped in a world that wasn't real and she experienced EVERYTHING that she wanted to happen but it was fake.
It’s torchwood not dr who, but being taken by the rift. As we know with Jonah he was driven insane by looking into the heart of a dark star and ended up screaming for 20 hours every day. And let’s not forget he was sent back in time 40 years and kept in captivity by Jack, so never met his mum for that long as well. We don’t know if the others had the same fate as Jonah, but what we do know is that it was horrible.
Yup that's a good one!! One of my fave/scary torchwood episodes!..that shit with him screaming for 20 hours was just...ugh..that would suck lol!!but good call!✌🍻
I really think they should do an episode about memento mori/the inevitability of death. I’m honestly surprised they haven’t. I guess the waters of mars kinda had that sort of theming anyway but it could’ve been done better, in my opinion. The theming is very common in episodes though, the Doctor being unable to save people very commonly, but I really feel like it could be done really well as a full episode.
Wasn't there a episode about the Doctor being trapped in a castle,Endlessly dying from a creature who always catches him,Only escaping after breaking through a wall of pure crystal? Seems like a pretty good metaphor.
@@aspookyghost5969 That was the Confession Dial, he was trapped there for four and a half billion years in total but his body was reset after each death so he didn't age. I think that he should have kept one of his skulls from that.
You should watch The Death Of The Doctor. It's a The Sarah Jane Adventures episode, but The Doctor is - as the title implies - present in the episode and central to the plot. It explores the sort of idea you're talking about, I think. Not just the inevitability of death, but that it's vital for life and that one cannot exist without the other.
Thinking about "Family of Blood"; Is Son of Mine being made a scarecrow reference to John Pertwee becoming the scarecrow Worzel Gummidge? Does the other punishments fit with other Doctor actors' later rolls?
I feel when we see the face talking is All in his head, and we're being shown this. What I think is, there Is a face of some sort, but Elton is the Only one who Perceives it talking in any way. There is NO recording border when we finally see her face.
I hope at some point they have Donnas memories returned. That the Time lords actually do something to return the favor after all the times the Doctor has saved them, and in return they fix donna, so she can remember and remain safe.
I actually really enjoyed what they did with Donna. All the companions who die or suffer any consequences always go back to how they were due to plot armor. Donna was the only time the doctor truly couldn't do anything, and reversing it would take away all the sadness from watching that scene
The absorbaloff actually reminds me of a discussion (someone had proposed a law in some country concerning Mandating organ donation it obviously never passed but it was a very heated discussion) about forcing people to donate their organs when they die in the sense of Having your choice taken from you and being forced to be alive as a part of somebody else... Absolutely terrifying.
wait, wasn't it mentioned that the Weeping Angels didn't actually Kill their victims but merely bounced them off to an unknown point in time? in which case, the whole saying "a fate worse than death" thing is a bit of an over drama. many of the characters sent back in time did okay in their new time period and left notes to that effect. the fear of the "when" one might end up in was far scarier than the actual "trip". and considering the Doctor bounced around time like a pinball, it wasn't nearly the horror you make it out to be.
John Barrowman played Jack Harkness very well. They were clearly showing someone with a lot of trauma who has unhealthy coping mechanisms and tries to avoid the seriousness of their trauma. Saying that he didn't seem like it traumatized him enough is just incorrect. He played real trauma responses so well. Kind of shows you how anyone around you could have deep trauma and you probably wouldn't be able to tell.
I think being turned into a Cyberman is the worst possible fate, in World Enough and Time it was established that Cybermen still feel pain but the emotional inhibiters simply stop them caring about it which opens a world of discussion on how conscious these people are about what has actually happened to them but are only able to follow what their software tells them to
Wilf saying “She was better with you!” And impatiently snapping at the mother to reiterate is heartbreaking. Doctor Donna was truly magical! I always hoped she would find a way to be great anyway.. it’s always inside her!
3:00 Mother of mines fate was worse. Much worse. All of the family of blood became immortal and it can be easily believed that the star she was thrown into became a black hole. That means eternity stretched insane lengths while time and gravity are so heavily distorted that in the time I write this it has happened thousands of times and just once. All at once. The only feeling she can feel is pain. No noise, no sound, no tastes, only unimaginable pain.
I mean, you kinda get the feeling that they're always trying hard to finding ways AROUND actually killing someone. Even in their most miserable state, the characters always get some relieving sentence thrown after them like "Don't worry, his minds already gone.. "or "he's not the same anymore", which makes every scenario in the show seem "mildly threatening" at best.
no1 HAS to be Sir Alister Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart. The longest serving character (played by the same actor) in the history of the show. 40 years, 1968-2008 - and yes, through the 90's too! Sarah Jane would be hard to pick, so would Torchwood, though children of earth day 4 and 5 would be high up there!!!!!!
Tomb of the Cybermen did show cyber conversion to a degree but it was the only 1960s episode that showed cyber conversion as Toberman had a Cyberman arm.
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i cant watch the runaway bride or any happy episode of doctor who with donna in anymore because i just think halfway through "oh yeah, she cant remember this or she'll die" and then i just get sad (im so happy we're getting her back though)
If the audio story Neverland is to be believed then being erased from time is also a fate worse than death because nobody truly remembers you, not even your parents.
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Rose looked so good in “The Idiot’s Lantern” episode. I’ve fancied in that episode for many years. The Wire did a good job to Rose too, making her a helpless damsel in distress whilst she wore a banging outfit.
Please please please stop with the ablism. I get that people don't like Ursula as a paving slab. It doesn't make it ok to say everything that was brought up in the video. Christopher Reeve was heavily disabled. He can be compared to Ursula. His life was absolutely worthy of his life and yeah disabled people have sex. It doesn't always invoice intercourse and that's ok. It also shows the isolation that comes with being with a handicapped partner. This episode could have been an amazing example but people missed the point.
The Absorbalof was always the most terrifying fate to me. Weeping Angels were creepy, but they either send you back in time which is fine, or snap your neck. That's a quick death, that's fine. Being absorbed, dammed to live forever as a face on Peter Kay's butt is a horror beyond comprehension. The fact the Absorbalof was mentioned twice on this list is proof of that.
The angels will also reanimate your consciousness just to use you as a voice box
“Her girlfriend, a sentient puddle” no one has ever summed up Series 10 so perfectly
What episode is that?
@@sarahwilliamson8646 The Pilot season 10 episode one
@@sarahwilliamson8646The Doctor Falls but watch The Pilot to get the context (yes, the episode called The Pilot is the pilot of S10
I honestly can't feel bad for Donna. She ended up with a loving husband that wasn't an agent for an ancient race of super spiders, a supportive family and a guaranteed winning lotto ticket. There are companions that wish they could have had an ending like that.
The main issue is she lost all the character development from season 4 and went back to her mentally abusive grandmother
@@awhryan That was her mother, not grandmother. Which is even worse.
+1 to this.
And more is coming for her
I agree-I think devoted husband and kid can make up for the mother. Also, Donna did lose personal growth, but she could grow again once back home. Also, Donna didn't want to die-she wanted to stay with the Doctor, which wasn't possible, so the Doctor chose mindwipe to preserve her life. I actually like Donna's ending because it's interesting (and it crushed me when I first saw it)-I hope it isn't totally undone in the 60th.
I feel like there was a bit missed on the "Turned Into a Cyberman" bit. I remember in the Parallel Earth episodes when they turned off the emotional inhibitor on one cyberman that'd tracked the Doctor and Mrs Moore down; and it turned out to be a woman named Sally who'd been converted on the night before her wedding, asking where her soon-to-be husband was, insisting he couldn't see her because it was unlucky before the wedding
I remember that bit broke my heart when I first watched that.
I remember it
I think I cried. That was monstrous, and the man responsible was a complete idiot
Amnesiac here! This is... very accurate. Even the way the doctor looks at her, knowing that his best friend is gone, and she doesnt even know that theres anything missing in her. My parents looked at me like that to start with.
My headcanon is that donna doesnt remember her time with the doctor, but despite the character development being undone by the amnesia, she still starts to change for the better, the memory wipe being your memories NOT your core personality. The memories never come back, but donna starts to become herself again and forges onward
I’m so happy that your headcanon ended up being true
She ended up getting the memories back but the specials after were still very enjoyable and seeing her tag along a bit longer was nice
I'm still sad/crying to what happened to Donna Noble. I really liked her and the dynamic/chemistry between & the 10th Doctor. It was priceless, a pure joy to watch.
I wish they had an extra season together
Series 4 of Doctor Who is by far my favorite Who series OF ALL TIME! Doctor Donna's my second favorite companion, behind Sarah Jane Smith.
nice
Everything sad in DW is retconnable, + likely to get returned to eventually even if only in side-canons. That's always been how it has got away with itself
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To me her narration seemed like someone bored who’s not a fan and just nit picking everything and not in a funny but more cynical as if she hates the show
I think President Barusa (I think that’s his name) deserves a spot on this list.
In the Five Doctors he was made immortal but trapped at the foot of Rassilon’s tomb, still conscious but forever immobilised.
I was very tempted to add Borusa but I worried it may be too niche (or too close to Ursula!)
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There is no better character in Doctor Who than Jack Harkness. And no better actor for it than John Barrowman. No one else could pull that off and still keep him both sorrowful and hopeful.
But for Donna at #1, you got that right.
Donna is a queen :))))
well... 2023 is gonna be something for the Temple-Noble family 😂
THANK YOU! its so clear that he has trauma and has strange and sometimes unhealthy coping mechanisms. I don't know how they missed that.
The fate that happened to Owen Harper in torchwood is a fate worse than death because he died, and came back to life as a corpse with knowing what happens after death.
Being stuck in the Chibs era would probably be the worst fate to have. Yikes lol
Technically Torchwood but the fate of the orphans given to the 456 in Children of Earth is honestly one of the worst things I could ever imagine
True.
That was disturbing season.
Peri did have a father complex, so her marriage actually makes sense. She wanted a father figure and I can easily imagine her in a huge fur covered bed, with her husband and loads of kids playing around in their bed chamber.
The obvious choice for this list was the fate that the doctor literally said was worse than death in an episode. The clerics getting their lives erased in Flesh and Stone.
Whilst these are fate worst then death, the afterlife is worst , a black void where you see no one but hear them , still psychicly linked to your corpse, and chased by duroc lord of the dead.
The faceless trope from ST Charlie X in 1966 to new Who always seems to ignore one little item.
Without an emergency tracheotomy in under 2 minutes they'd all have suffocated.
I get how horrific Cyberconversion is in the modern series, but in the original, it was done to preserve the Mondasian race, similar to Ice Warriors and maybe also Daleks. Horrible, yes, but also necessary (depending on if you believe Davros with reference to Daleks)
9:15 "They smash him, but they know he'll keep coming back." I see what you did there...
Getting poisoned by some Scottish girl’s baked beans was also rather terrible!
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60th anniversary fast approaching, Mr. Smith......PLEASE BE IN IT, YOU LEGEND!
@@frankmoniz1467 next year!!!!
@@lilyharris7629 I heard David Tennant wants to come back, maybe as the Doctor from the parallel universe with Rose. Bloody excitement!
At least she did not fry the beans, Lol
Love the comment comparing Colin Baker and Brian Blessed, and the bang on description of some Who fans on twitter, CLASSIC!
I would consider it a fate worse than death for King Yrcanos to be married to Peri.
@@Shan_Dalamani Peri had her good points.
@@peterjf7723 Such as what? I can't think of any.
I think the man Donna met in the library was a descendant of her's, because she's getting married when the tenth Doctor is dying. Perhaps motherhood changed her back into something like the Donna who was the travelling with the Doctor.
We can only hope.
You shouldve added the human Dalek science experiment.
Idiots Lantern IS genuinely one of my all time favourites. I love the performance of Maureen Lipman ❤
What about those time cracks, and, well, anything along that particular line?
Then there's what the Great Intelligence did to the 11th Doctor, which really affected ALL of them (or, at least all the previous ones, minus the War Doctor) and what that subsaquently did to, well, absolutely EVERYONE else.
I’m just thinking that the guy that has that alien technology implemented on his forehead and can’t remove it while only having someone snapping their fingers in order for him to be utterly humiliated when he disobeyed the Christopher Eccleston’s Doctor Who would possibly fit into this in some way.
Having to live the rest of your life trying to hide a pop-up door in you forehead every time someone snaps their fingers. He might end up a someone caught by a government, who tries to discover how this alien tech works. He's firmly strapped down in Area 51.
@@westzed23 well, he shouldn’t have pissed off the Doctor and Rose by trying to have future technology while also using the phone that the Doctor and Rose had given him to record alien technology that he was told not to tamper with while he was thinking about how it could have improved his finances and intelligence.
I still think Owen Harper should have been on there. For all of the people who don't know who that is, he was a torchwood member who died. He was then brought back to life and couldn't die again. Like Jack you might think. But no... He was a walking corpse. He couldn't feel which ment that sex was useless, he couldn't eat, and he couldn't drink. Those where all his favorite things. To top it of, he could never heal. So every wound he would get would continue to be there forever. His feelings where gone too, so no more love for him. He did end up being disintegrated but the last year of his existence was a "living" hell.
Donna led a great life after the doctor and thankfully she came back during the Christmas specials in 2023 and it was shown she had a daughter and there was a huge and amazing storyline there.
It takes the right personality to be able to handle immortality. Jack, for the most part, has been able to do so. Quite fortunate. Otherwise, he'd become the type of villain that would rival the Master who is the Doctor's deadliest foe. Not even Lady Me could handle it as she grew to despise the Doctor despite seeing him as a friend.
Truning into a Weeping Angel should've gotten an honorable mention. Or becoming The Face of Boe.
First time I watched the Episode Rose, I thought 'now Clive will know what it's like when he is called crazy & people don't believe him when he says that he's seen something'. The gentleman who plays Clive was in Look and Read series Earth Warp, where he played chef, who put a star sticker on Martin's telescope. Only when he is out for a stroll & whistles, does he meet Ollie's spaceship & then tries to tell Martin, that now he believes Martin
"We wanted to live forever. So The Doctor made sure that we did."
I thought that the Doctor visited right before her (Donna) death from old age and restored the memories.
so that she could die knowing how important she really was
In regards to Son-of-mine, when I first saw The Flux episode with the Angels, I thought the distant figure lit from behind was him, though it turned out to just be an Angel coming for Yaz and Dan. Still, the brief visual where it looks like a scarecrow is either a great Easter egg, or an even better unintentional one.
Probably unintentional but yeah that’s a good catch!
I have a recommendation
Being Trapped in a Dream/World that is not real.
Donna Noble was trapped in a world that wasn't real and she experienced EVERYTHING that she wanted to happen but it was fake.
Everything the Doctor did to the Family of Blood could/should be on here, the Doctor was unhinged that day like jeez
No second chances.
With Ursala a paving stone, we can see what Moaning Myrtle (Harry Potter) has to complain about. (Same actress).
It’s torchwood not dr who, but being taken by the rift. As we know with Jonah he was driven insane by looking into the heart of a dark star and ended up screaming for 20 hours every day. And let’s not forget he was sent back in time 40 years and kept in captivity by Jack, so never met his mum for that long as well. We don’t know if the others had the same fate as Jonah, but what we do know is that it was horrible.
Yup that's a good one!! One of my fave/scary torchwood episodes!..that shit with him screaming for 20 hours was just...ugh..that would suck lol!!but good call!✌🍻
I'd say Miracle Day would count, too, if we're extending into Torchwood.
Davros and Lady Cassandra.
Who would want to be Davros?
And as Rose summed it up, better to die than to wind up a bitchy trampoline.
I really think they should do an episode about memento mori/the inevitability of death. I’m honestly surprised they haven’t. I guess the waters of mars kinda had that sort of theming anyway but it could’ve been done better, in my opinion. The theming is very common in episodes though, the Doctor being unable to save people very commonly, but I really feel like it could be done really well as a full episode.
Wasn't there a episode about the Doctor being trapped in a castle,Endlessly dying from a creature who always catches him,Only escaping after breaking through a wall of pure crystal? Seems like a pretty good metaphor.
@@aspookyghost5969 I guess you’re right lol
@@aspookyghost5969 That was the Confession Dial, he was trapped there for four and a half billion years in total but his body was reset after each death so he didn't age. I think that he should have kept one of his skulls from that.
You should watch The Death Of The Doctor. It's a The Sarah Jane Adventures episode, but The Doctor is - as the title implies - present in the episode and central to the plot. It explores the sort of idea you're talking about, I think. Not just the inevitability of death, but that it's vital for life and that one cannot exist without the other.
Thank you for having Donna as #1.
Now that the 60th anniversary of Doctor Who is out this last one with Donna didn't age too well lol
Thinking about "Family of Blood"; Is Son of Mine being made a scarecrow reference to John Pertwee becoming the scarecrow Worzel Gummidge? Does the other punishments fit with other Doctor actors' later rolls?
That is something to explore. You may have discovered something. Someone will have to deep dive to explore this.
I would argue that Amy being turned into a peg doll should definitely be on this list
That transformation scene is terrifying
Ellie looking beautiful as usual
I love the Itchy and Scratchy reference, very clever.
I feel when we see the face talking is All in his head, and we're being shown this.
What I think is, there Is a face of some sort, but Elton is the Only one who Perceives it talking in any way.
There is NO recording border when we finally see her face.
Huh?
3:19 This episode shows it is not wise to piss off the Doctor. This is what he does when simply having been pushed too far.
I hope at some point they have Donnas memories returned. That the Time lords actually do something to return the favor after all the times the Doctor has saved them, and in return they fix donna, so she can remember and remain safe.
I actually really enjoyed what they did with Donna. All the companions who die or suffer any consequences always go back to how they were due to plot armor. Donna was the only time the doctor truly couldn't do anything, and reversing it would take away all the sadness from watching that scene
0:35 it’s not that bad…
…she’s even got a bit of a love life 😏😏
The human dalek thing looks like Pizza the Hut from Space Balls
ew. thanks for that. i hate it.
0:18 the two people that died to the toy maker or all of his victims.
Thank you Rose, for keeping Jack with us for a little longer.
Great stuff, keep it up!
so uhhh... the number one spot sure aged like milk
Been waiting for this one
Good Captain Scarlet reference when talking about Jack!
The absorbaloff actually reminds me of a discussion (someone had proposed a law in some country concerning Mandating organ donation it obviously never passed but it was a very heated discussion) about forcing people to donate their organs when they die in the sense of Having your choice taken from you and being forced to be alive as a part of somebody else... Absolutely terrifying.
Your brains the only organ that counts all your personality is in their so as long as that never gets donated i dont care
wait, wasn't it mentioned that the Weeping Angels didn't actually Kill their victims but merely bounced them off to an unknown point in time?
in which case, the whole saying "a fate worse than death" thing is a bit of an over drama. many of the characters sent back in time did okay in their new time period and left notes to that effect. the fear of the "when" one might end up in was far scarier than the actual "trip". and considering the Doctor bounced around time like a pinball, it wasn't nearly the horror you make it out to be.
John Barrowman played Jack Harkness very well. They were clearly showing someone with a lot of trauma who has unhealthy coping mechanisms and tries to avoid the seriousness of their trauma. Saying that he didn't seem like it traumatized him enough is just incorrect. He played real trauma responses so well. Kind of shows you how anyone around you could have deep trauma and you probably wouldn't be able to tell.
Idiots lantern is my favorite of the first season of David Tennants era tied with Christmas invasion of course
The wire is one of my favourite episodes, I found the wire so unexcepting. I even had that action figure set.
The absorbalof was an awesome Blue Peter entry its just sad the episode was so bad
I think being turned into a Cyberman is the worst possible fate, in World Enough and Time it was established that Cybermen still feel pain but the emotional inhibiters simply stop them caring about it which opens a world of discussion on how conscious these people are about what has actually happened to them but are only able to follow what their software tells them to
Wilf saying “She was better with you!” And impatiently snapping at the mother to reiterate is heartbreaking.
Doctor Donna was truly magical! I always hoped she would find a way to be great anyway.. it’s always inside her!
Well the stuff that the Toymaker does is far worse.
What about the people from the hospital on new new New York?
With every known disease in existence at that time? Yeah, that one would do.
So.... that last one aged like milk... fortunately, the cheese it became was fantastic
Just a tip when talking about the cybermen the best way to explain them is they’re a race of cybernetic organisms aka cyborgs!
I miss Donna so much, she was my favourite Doctor Who character ever
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what about being exterminated by Daleks repeatedly in a time loop in "Eve of The Daleks"
Borusa is condemned to eternal imprisonment as a living statue as is Vivien Fay. Doesn't get any worse than that.
3:00 Mother of mines fate was worse. Much worse. All of the family of blood became immortal and it can be easily believed that the star she was thrown into became a black hole. That means eternity stretched insane lengths while time and gravity are so heavily distorted that in the time I write this it has happened thousands of times and just once. All at once. The only feeling she can feel is pain. No noise, no sound, no tastes, only unimaginable pain.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh God... 😢
I mean, you kinda get the feeling that they're always trying hard to finding ways AROUND actually killing someone.
Even in their most miserable state, the characters always get some relieving sentence thrown after them like "Don't worry, his minds already gone.. "or "he's not the same anymore", which makes every scenario in the show seem "mildly threatening" at best.
I cant believe you rated a girl marrying a mean warrior dude as being worse than being made into a cyberman
gotta love the massive typo in the name
Do the top 10 members of unit throughout the classic and new. And then the top 10 Sarah Jane adventures episodes and torchwood
no1 HAS to be Sir Alister Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart. The longest serving character (played by the same actor) in the history of the show. 40 years, 1968-2008 - and yes, through the 90's too! Sarah Jane would be hard to pick, so would Torchwood, though children of earth day 4 and 5 would be high up there!!!!!!
Tomb of the Cybermen did show cyber conversion to a degree but it was the only 1960s episode that showed cyber conversion as Toberman had a Cyberman arm.
Great video
We wanted to live forever. So the doctor made sure that we did.
Jay Exci famously made a 5 Hour long videos. 5 Hours full of valid Criticism. As a fan, you may wanna check that out.
You can jump into at any moment, as it’s split into parts. You could even start with the SMARTEST Chibnal-Era Episode and it’s coverage: Demons of Punjab.
Such a chilling line
Isn’t Elton the guy that played Blithe in BoB?
Yep and he was in Grange Hill for a few episodes in the early 90s
Donna deserved a better ending, so sad
Well, let me tell you something…….
Still think that Amy Pond should have been turned into a Cyberman.
I agree with the slab
For somebody who´s getting interrested : How much time I have to invest to watch all of that ?
if you're starting from the 2005 one, probably a good few weeks depending on if you're binging. maybe a few months if you have a life. worth it though
"A bizarre climax"... Yeah, that's what happening...
Jay Exci famously made a 5 Hour long videos. 5 Hours full of valid Criticism. As a fan, you may wanna check that out.
You can jump into at any moment, as it’s split into parts. You could even start with the SMARTEST Chibnal-Era Episode and it’s coverage: Demons of Punjab.
Number 1: not having brit box.
I don't have Britbox. My workaround is Dailymotion.
i cant watch the runaway bride or any happy episode of doctor who with donna in anymore because i just think halfway through "oh yeah, she cant remember this or she'll die" and then i just get sad (im so happy we're getting her back though)
Being in the chibnall Era is a fate worse than death
Nailed it number one. Donna is my favorite companion.
People who follow the Dr always end up in trouble
Once again, leaving out all of the examples that Big Finish has come up with
Number 6 reminds me of the whole dark lord stealing mii faces and putting them onto monsters in Miitopia. Freaky if you think about it.
If the audio story Neverland is to be believed then being erased from time is also a fate worse than death because nobody truly remembers you, not even your parents.
After seeing the Season 26 DVD video, I think Peri is ok with how her life turned out of the Doctor
Jay Exci famously made a 5 Hour long videos. 5 Hours full of valid Criticism. As a fan, you may wanna check that out.
You can jump into at any moment, as it’s split into parts. You could even start with the SMARTEST Chibnal-Era Episode and it’s coverage: Demons of Punjab.
What about the dolls from night terrors? Pretty sure being transformed into one was described as a "living death"
Rose looked so good in “The Idiot’s Lantern” episode. I’ve fancied in that episode for many years. The Wire did a good job to Rose too, making her a helpless damsel in distress whilst she wore a banging outfit.
bizarre climax? that's one way of putting it yeah
Captian Jack was resurrected when Rose said, "I bring life". What about every other intact corpse on Satalite Five?
Please please please stop with the ablism. I get that people don't like Ursula as a paving slab. It doesn't make it ok to say everything that was brought up in the video. Christopher Reeve was heavily disabled. He can be compared to Ursula. His life was absolutely worthy of his life and yeah disabled people have sex. It doesn't always invoice intercourse and that's ok. It also shows the isolation that comes with being with a handicapped partner. This episode could have been an amazing example but people missed the point.
Hmmm, fate worse than death.....I know!, Working with Chris Chibnall! Has he left the building?
Ah! One of those fans from twitter. ;)
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