No amount of Company, Council or National climate action is going to make a scrap of difference given the fact that the US, Russia and China couldn't give a toss as they are the biggest polluters of all.
Whatever we pay and whoever we pay it to there will be commissions. Politicians get rich on woke while constituents get screwed. They are making whores of us and pimping us. Their drug of choice to keep us hooked is corporate media.
Being a good steward is what Yah requires. Worshipping creation and following the fantasies of carbon credits is the Pinnacle of idolitory. Choose carefully what you choose as your creator.
This is not New Zealand thinking of these policies it comes from the United Nations they want to outlaw petrol motor vehicles okay and they also want to do a way with all farming I wonder how that works
they won't do away with it they are pushing smaller farms out bc they want monopoly of food chain, easiest way to do this is what they have been doing by regulating them out, once this has been achieved they will simply ease restrictions and business as usual for the corporations.
@@keithomelvena2354 are you asleep how many farms in New Zealand last year were planted out in pine trees for carbon credits who is mandates do you think the following in Europe who is mandates do you think the following in America for the last six months they’ve had nothing but demonstration from farmers about the control over what they can produce on their farms
@@keithomelvena2354 The name Bill Gates ring a bell ?
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Here's my little ditty to Rod Carr. We've long known the first one. now we see the rest. Willpower is soluble in alcohol. Reality is soluble in ideology. Integrity is soluble in money.
you don't have a user name, its just blank, just wondered how you did that
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@@zweed69 Got me beat. I thought my name was up there. perhaps I've been denamed? I'm more a luddite digital user rather than digital citizen.
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You could wallpaper your bedroom with all the media headlines that such and such a place is warming twice as fast as all the others. You can do another bedroom with the headlines that sea levels are rising twice as fast here than everywhere else with NZ going for the triple rise on the North Islands east coast. Meanwhile over 90% of Pacific Islands are maintaining land area or actually expanding. Rod Carr and Tim Flannery. Australasia's chicken littles.
Unless the major polluters actually achieve it, nothing New Zealand does will make a blind bit of difference to the outcome and it is therefore pointless to deliberately impoverish and inconvenience ourselves in pursuit of something pointless. Of course, we should make long term decisions around power provision and so on to facilitate carbon neutral outcomes where sensible - and for me that means we need nuclear power - but we certainly should not make silly decisions that are neither practical or affordable.
And we shouldn't be trying to make a difference. We make our living off growing good grass. The more CO² the better the grass grows, the more efficiently grass grows- less dependent of the availability of water. Although of course, if the world was warming- which it isn't, the atmosphere would be carrying far more water and rain would be more abundant anyway. It's against our national interests to restrict CO² in the atmosphere.
When you hear of NSW continuing to log rainforest koala habitat because "the law doesn't allow for existing forests to be used for carbon offsets" you have to start wondering whether at some level the carbon/climate agenda has nothing to do with carbon or the climate
@@chrismckellar9350 but here's the thing..., there is a whole lot of lies , just like during the covid plandemic touting, we need to do this, and we need to that or were all going to die..... False science paid by big corporations, to support an agenda, which is more about virtue signaling( and profiteering) than saving the planet, and or its people
Its strange that we cannot use the conservation estate or pasture lands as carbon offset, is it because, if they were included we would be permanently in credit no matter what we did, regarding carbon emissions.
@@keithomelvena2354 Cows munch grass, which takes up CO2. Outputs can't exceed inputs. Why do we count only the outputs. Australia counts both sides (grass growth). None of it makes sense.
Who in New Zealand voted for net zero? I do not remember government asking us if we want billions of our tax dollars thrown into the #climatehoax sess pit. I want all this nonsense to stop and our money used for schools, hospitals, roads and infrastructure.
Yeah do our bit makes sense however its the big players like India, USA and China who have more to achieve, our global carbon contribution is negligible, do we still need to be best in show as the previous govt always wanted to be ? - no matter the cost
The joke is, those storing other peoples carbon pollution in trees on their property, are being ripped off by self entitled double cab 4WD owners. Some might call it theft!
That's what I have been thinking. If the planet does change to the point humans cannot survive, so what? Time for God to create a more resilient species😂. I mean dinosaurs disappeared and nobody is missing them. 😂
@@davidboyd8113 eh? Obviously some climate action can be achieved by individual actions but policy decisions are the only way true impact is going to happen. My point was that not worrying about it because you won’t be here is fine, but it’s just selfish
Re your last comment, how much CO2 does an exploding head release into the atmosphere? Or to put it another way - 1 x exploding head = how many cow farts?
Who remembers Michael Cullen signing us up for Global warming/carbon reduction in around 1996? "We stand to get paid millions because of all the timber we produce. Later when we were a net emitter: "Well we're doing the right thing!" This whole AGW/climate change has been a crock of sh## from the outset. How can the same cause ( excess carbon ) produce two opposite effects: record heat and record cold??? The maths and physics for a green transition don't work. You need more machines to dig more mines to get more stuff to make the EV batteries. Now are you going to run those mines on renewables or fossil fuels? Once you've made EV trucks to replace ICE vehicles the energy requirements are staggering, requiring upgraded transmission lines and power generation. You've also now got trucks sitting by idle whilst they charge. Apart from this mad attempt to replace our energy base, China and the rest of the East is industrializing on a grand scale and burning massive amounts of coal and oil in the process. Ergo, CO2 levels will continue to soar despite what we do. On the flip side there were still terrible weather events and starvation on a grand scale a century ago when CO2 was at a magic 300ppm. Lunacy from every angle.
@@chrismckellar9350 Originally? From stellar fusion of carbon plus helium. When large stars die they eject these elements which can then become building blocks for new stars and planetary systems.
Not quite correct Mike... the money goes into a pool and this money is distributed to 'disadvantaged countries" (ironically probably those that cause a greater carbon footprint...) as a penalty that they can then presumably spend on reducing their carbon footprint (its a form of one-sided 'carbon reparations' if you will...)
Id be more worried about CO2 reaching 150ppm the planet will the be dead. At the moment we stand at low 450ppm. Not far away from all plants and animals being extinct.
Has anyone bothered to ask why top climatologist like John Christy seem to disagree with there being a climate emergency? They say yes the earth is warming but its not an emergency.
@@badchefi After working in telecommunications and ICT since 1996 I think I understand it just fine. Unlike you gerbil I actually research and read a lot. I actually do read the scientific research and understand it. So off your pop buddy back to your propaganda.
If the major polluting countries miss the net zero target by a lot, then the world will become a lot hotter, ocean levels will rise faster, and NZ will become an increasing attractive place for climate refugees. The "so what" isn't Mike's problem, but his great grandchildren will suffer if the targets are missed.
Who cares! We are a small country,we 68 out of 118 countries, Australia is 10x waste than us,New Zealand thinks it bigger than it really is, just try our best and we don't make it to bad, life goes on till it doesn't.
Can the green pati ..explain......what we would do to use our cars ..if they all become electric ..like another cyclone devastates nz again...no power..no electricity..no Emergency vehicles... no help. Owww. I've no. We use te WAKA...yaaa explains alot😮
Our carbon output is 0.17% of 1% of the total global carbon output. Come on. We ain't making a difference. The CO2 is a positive for life, jot a negative
Net zero is a joke.. Buying carbon credits just shows you , this is not really about the environment
What’s it about then?
@@jame2433 well if you don't known... Then your unlikely to, so I'm not going to waste my time
@@Dlweta57 ah yes, so a conspiracy.
@@jame2433 Its about money and control, simple as that.
@@jame2433 yes a world wide one. Not a theory, maybe hope for you, all you need to do is open your eyes, follow the money
The world has changed, carbon targets have become irrelevant and will be completely ignored with what is coming.
Bordering on nutty? it has long gone beyond nutty.
No amount of Company, Council or National climate action is going to make a scrap of difference given the fact that the US, Russia and China couldn't give a toss as they are the biggest polluters of all.
you forgot India -- but you're right... NZ 0.004 % of CO2 and CO2 only makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere
Could we just write a big fat cheque to Mother Nature and since she doesn't exist it will never get cashed but we can say we have held up our end?
Whatever we pay and whoever we pay it to there will be commissions.
Politicians get rich on woke while constituents get screwed.
They are making whores of us and pimping us.
Their drug of choice to keep us hooked is corporate media.
Being a good steward is what Yah requires.
Worshipping creation and following the fantasies of carbon credits is the Pinnacle of idolitory.
Choose carefully what you choose as your creator.
@robertmccabe8632 "I AM" ✨️
This is not New Zealand thinking of these policies it comes from the United Nations they want to outlaw petrol motor vehicles okay and they also want to do a way with all farming I wonder how that works
they won't do away with it they are pushing smaller farms out bc they want monopoly of food chain, easiest way to do this is what they have been doing by regulating them out, once this has been achieved they will simply ease restrictions and business as usual for the corporations.
Care to reference where the UN wants to do away with farming, or did you make that up?
@@keithomelvena2354 are you asleep how many farms in New Zealand last year were planted out in pine trees for carbon credits who is mandates do you think the following in Europe who is mandates do you think the following in America for the last six months they’ve had nothing but demonstration from farmers about the control over what they can produce on their farms
@@keithomelvena2354 it comes under agenda 2030 the depopulation part of the United Nations
@@keithomelvena2354 The name Bill Gates ring a bell ?
Here's my little ditty to Rod Carr. We've long known the first one. now we see the rest.
Willpower is soluble in alcohol.
Reality is soluble in ideology.
Integrity is soluble in money.
how do you have no usr name? 🤔
@@zweed69 ????
you don't have a user name, its just blank, just wondered how you did that
@@zweed69 Got me beat. I thought my name was up there. perhaps I've been denamed? I'm more a luddite digital user rather than digital citizen.
You could wallpaper your bedroom with all the media headlines that such and such a place is warming twice as fast as all the others. You can do another bedroom with the headlines that sea levels are rising twice as fast here than everywhere else with NZ going for the triple rise on the North Islands east coast. Meanwhile over 90% of Pacific Islands are maintaining land area or actually expanding. Rod Carr and Tim Flannery. Australasia's chicken littles.
Unless the major polluters actually achieve it, nothing New Zealand does will make a blind bit of difference to the outcome and it is therefore pointless to deliberately impoverish and inconvenience ourselves in pursuit of something pointless.
Of course, we should make long term decisions around power provision and so on to facilitate carbon neutral outcomes where sensible - and for me that means we need nuclear power - but we certainly should not make silly decisions that are neither practical or affordable.
And we shouldn't be trying to make a difference.
We make our living off growing good grass. The more CO² the better the grass grows, the more efficiently grass grows- less dependent of the availability of water. Although of course, if the world was warming- which it isn't, the atmosphere would be carrying far more water and rain would be more abundant anyway.
It's against our national interests to restrict CO² in the atmosphere.
When you hear of NSW continuing to log rainforest koala habitat because "the law doesn't allow for existing forests to be used for carbon offsets" you have to start wondering whether at some level the carbon/climate agenda has nothing to do with carbon or the climate
The climate alarmism religion must be stop it all bs
Nature doesn't care about what humans think and do, the message is clear - adapt or suffer the consequences.
@@chrismckellar9350 but here's the thing..., there is a whole lot of lies , just like during the covid plandemic touting, we need to do this, and we need to that or were all going to die..... False science paid by big corporations, to support an agenda, which is more about virtue signaling( and profiteering) than saving the planet, and or its people
@@chrismckellar9350 or pick the fruit delivered by nature and human ingenuity?
It's the religion for those who are too clever for, and therefore sneer at religion. Quite ironic that they can't see it.
Godless reprobates 🤯
Wars and more wars between now and 2030- 50 shows exactly how worried they arent.about climate change and more about the money.
Is alarmist heads exploding a net negative?
Net positive.
So, you can just buy your way out of "net zero"? This is the definition of a racket.
100%
Pre reset cash grab💸 👋
It's all bull shit smoke and mirrors
Its strange that we cannot use the conservation estate or pasture lands as carbon offset, is it because, if they were included we would be permanently in credit no matter what we did, regarding carbon emissions.
It's probably because those areas are in carbon stasis, neither gaining, or hopefully not losing carbon.
@@keithomelvena2354 Cows munch grass, which takes up CO2. Outputs can't exceed inputs. Why do we count only the outputs. Australia counts both sides (grass growth). None of it makes sense.
It is a shame Augie Auer passed away, as he had the best explanation about the climate change BS
Who in New Zealand voted for net zero? I do not remember government asking us if we want billions of our tax dollars thrown into the #climatehoax sess pit. I want all this nonsense to stop and our money used for schools, hospitals, roads and infrastructure.
Blackrock is climate head office and Jacinda visited them in the last couple of years.
Got her cheque
Yeah do our bit makes sense however its the big players like India, USA and China who have more to achieve, our global carbon contribution is negligible, do we still need to be best in show as the previous govt always wanted to be ? - no matter the cost
It is bull shit!!!!
It is am absolute joke these carbon credits total rubbish
The joke is, those storing other peoples carbon pollution in trees on their property, are being ripped off by self entitled double cab 4WD owners. Some might call it theft!
Absolutely disgusting police achieves nothing
The money taken off the pubic goes nowhere just an international scam
Nature does what nature has always done in cycles. No more and no less.
Newstalk ZB, You're the best! I subscribed because I love your content!
I wouldn’t worry too much about 20 50 millions of us are not gonna make it
But our kids will…
That's what I have been thinking. If the planet does change to the point humans cannot survive, so what? Time for God to create a more resilient species😂. I mean dinosaurs disappeared and nobody is missing them. 😂
@@bigbrother4ever we are nothing more than a human resource to be used by the elite or discarded it will
@@jame2433 so what are you doing to change things and how are you educating your children about the system that are putting in place
@@davidboyd8113 eh? Obviously some climate action can be achieved by individual actions but policy decisions are the only way true impact is going to happen. My point was that not worrying about it because you won’t be here is fine, but it’s just selfish
Re your last comment, how much CO2 does an exploding head release into the atmosphere? Or to put it another way - 1 x exploding head = how many cow farts?
Pleased to see no more crap from Newshub. Wake up smellthe coffee
Who remembers Michael Cullen signing us up for Global warming/carbon reduction in around 1996? "We stand to get paid millions because of all the timber we produce. Later when we were a net emitter: "Well we're doing the right thing!" This whole AGW/climate change has been a crock of sh## from the outset. How can the same cause ( excess carbon ) produce two opposite effects: record heat and record cold???
The maths and physics for a green transition don't work. You need more machines to dig more mines to get more stuff to make the EV batteries. Now are you going to run those mines on renewables or fossil fuels? Once you've made EV trucks to replace ICE vehicles the energy requirements are staggering, requiring upgraded transmission lines and power generation. You've also now got trucks sitting by idle whilst they charge.
Apart from this mad attempt to replace our energy base, China and the rest of the East is industrializing on a grand scale and burning massive amounts of coal and oil in the process. Ergo, CO2 levels will continue to soar despite what we do. On the flip side there were still terrible weather events and starvation on a grand scale a century ago when CO2 was at a magic 300ppm. Lunacy from every angle.
Yet our emissions are still heating the planet.
You must realise that human beings and all plant life and mammals we all breathe out carbon
And plants absorb it and converts into oxygen, so what is your point.
CO2 is plant food.
@@chrismckellar9350 Cyclops is pretending he knows what he's talking about.
@@keithomelvena2354 - Okay smart one where does oxygen come from.
@@chrismckellar9350 Originally? From stellar fusion of carbon plus helium. When large stars die they eject these elements which can then become building blocks for new stars and planetary systems.
Not quite correct Mike... the money goes into a pool and this money is distributed to 'disadvantaged countries" (ironically probably those that cause a greater carbon footprint...) as a penalty that they can then presumably spend on reducing their carbon footprint (its a form of one-sided 'carbon reparations' if you will...)
lol. Similar to treaty reparations🤔🤭
@@november50 YUP - same trick, different pony for "equitable wealth redistribution..."
Id be more worried about CO2 reaching 150ppm the planet will the be dead. At the moment we stand at low 450ppm. Not far away from all plants and animals being extinct.
Has anyone bothered to ask why top climatologist like John Christy seem to disagree with there being a climate emergency? They say yes the earth is warming but its not an emergency.
This conversation is pointless ! Co2 is not a problem ! Love to all !
Err, it's increase in the atmosphere is heating the planet.
Yes, stay calm...be the observer✨️😏💛
Err,, youve been lied to,, Err,, do some real research errr, ??
Have you thought instead of Global Warming we might just get a Nuclear winter or some other catastrophe..........
the climate con is as nutty as the masks, jabs and mandates! Call one nutty call them all nutty
100% correct. Buy two Teslas and use them. You can afford it. It will make no difference to our emissions, but so what is new.
It does - you need to inform yourself instead of embarrassing yourself on TH-cam.
@@badchefi are you suggesting that Mike does not have enough money. I think he will be offended.
No, makes no difference. This is the biggest scam the world has seen.
@@JG-us9lu your demoralised by online propaganda - thanks our own inability to understand technology and science.
@@badchefi After working in telecommunications and ICT since 1996 I think I understand it just fine. Unlike you gerbil I actually research and read a lot. I actually do read the scientific research and understand it. So off your pop buddy back to your propaganda.
If the major polluting countries miss the net zero target by a lot, then the world will become a lot hotter, ocean levels will rise faster, and NZ will become an increasing attractive place for climate refugees. The "so what" isn't Mike's problem, but his great grandchildren will suffer if the targets are missed.
to quote my Earth Sciences prof -''NZ could sink into the sea tomorrow and it would not make the faintest difference to the world's climate.''
Good on ya Mike......
Looking out the window all seems fine 99.9% of the time??
But the planet is still warming.
@@chrismckellar9350 Planting bananas!!
The entire universe is warming according to scientists@@chrismckellar9350
no point in commenting they are being removed
Just another con. Spot on Mike
Who cares! We are a small country,we 68 out of 118 countries, Australia is 10x waste than us,New Zealand thinks it bigger than it really is, just try our best and we don't make it to bad, life goes on till it doesn't.
Can the green pati ..explain......what we would do to use our cars ..if they all become electric ..like another cyclone devastates nz again...no power..no electricity..no Emergency vehicles... no help. Owww. I've no. We use te WAKA...yaaa explains alot😮
It’s a con the con of the century
Nett zero will mean no w@rs……right?
A grift and a sham.
What about china/india just saying.😮
Our carbon output is 0.17% of 1% of the total global carbon output.
Come on. We ain't making a difference.
The CO2 is a positive for life, jot a negative
CO2 is a positive for life? Try breathing it!
Whats new ?
You are the carbon they are trying to remove....
Took you long enough 🤔
Con of the century
Who's paying yer wife's fine Mike?
One way or the other...we all are.
Gusse, what the planets hottest recorded period was in the 1400s and yet no one has been honest enough to say it cyclical universe.