Trying to lift that battery from above is no joke. I tried that from a truck bed with a 100 kg radiator and my back has never been the same. Three words: body mechanics. Thanks, another great vid. I have very simple wiring questions. If you have vid on heater wiring, pls let me know. Thanks!
Glad you are finding our visa useful. We do have a heater wiring vid and a schematic pdf. Video: th-cam.com/video/Y3MZjhXc4q4/w-d-xo.html Schematics: freedom-strider.com/project/van-hydronic-heating-system/ Remember that each heater wiring can vary so you must refer to the manufacturer's manuals to do it correctly. Ours is an espar hydronic heater.
Great upgrade! Looking at exactly this system for our build. Interested to see if you get enough excess solar to harvest in the summer for a 12v water heating element...
Yes with electric water heating this battery power + our solar capacity (540w) should be enough for excess, however we don't have a hot water tank, we are using our hydronic heater with a heat exchanger so we have on demand hot water. Makes it hard to install something like this unless we have a separate hot water tank just for this purpose 👀
It depends how we charge. We have a small 30A AC charger and that takes around 31 hours from 0-100%, but we rarely are on that low. From 20-100% takes around 24 hours, so when we need to in the winter we park up at a campsite for a day and charge up. In hindsight, a larger ac charger would be nicer:)
These specific batteries, no, but Roamer do thier Xtreame batteries which can handle high charge/discharge down to -30C, you may want to check out @mispronouncedadventures who has been to the arctic with that battery 👍 (tell him we said hi)
Building your own battery is cool, we have considered it, one of the key notes to building lithiums is to be quite picky with the BMS you use, to keep your batteries safe.
@@FreedomStrider I used a JBD 150amp one, not sure there's much in it between that one and the Daly but if I were buying now I'd probably get the JK with active balancing, one of the easiest jobs I did in the van and for a weekends work I have a 302ah battery for less than £700.
Wow That's a mad upgrade, I think only Seven O Savage has comparable battery capacity. You guys could run air con with that amount of power which for me is the ultimate luxury.
Yeah, the possibilities suddenly tripled with so much capacity, we are quite enjoying the extended off grid duration. We'll see how the summer is and if air con is one of the projects.
@@FreedomStrider Awesome! Yeah we're thinking of getting the 8-in-1 just to save on space, it uses the same 2400W. We have the exact same batteries here (2 x 460Ah Roamers) but we have only just started our build 😄
Well 1 hour charges us about 5% (46ah), so it would take 16hours to get to 100%...charging at 50A. On a good solar day we can get anywhere between 10-20% recharge and our daily usage is only 10-15% of our capacity, so we can actually stay topped up with the sun (when it's there) 😉
We were thinking using 24V but several reason why we didn't: 1. We'd already built everything for 12V, so switching to 24V would have meant alot more tinkering, plus our inverter is 12V, our MPPT is 12V, so would have involved buying those again too 2. We got these batteries before the S3 had come out so they didn't have the 230Ah 24V S3 out and we were leaving pretty pronto after this. We could have connected them together the other way to get 24V but... 3. Although 24V would have been more effecient for the inverter, everything else would have been the same and we would need 24v to 12v drop down boxes I think if we were starting from scratch, and hadn't bought anything, 24V would have been the way to go, but since we already had 12v kit, the budget wouldn't have liked it 👀
If you mean weak in terms of 'encased in a flammable couch'... then yes a full fireproof box is preferred. If you have any other fire safety notes we are happy to hear 🙂
2:52 😂the battery handle did the exact same thing as my mouth! 11kWhaaaat!! That’s jaw dropping serious power guys! …It’s deceptive how big a DMC-12 is in the back! Looks much smaller in the movie 🤩
anything more than 500ah is just for show and has no real benefit as charging becomes the biggest issue at that point, unless yoh drive for 5 hours a day
You're right that the biggest issue becomes recharge ability, as even with a large dcdc charger like ours (50a) it would still take around 16hrs to fully charge the batteries from 20%. That being said, we haven't really had an issue with recharge. In the last 4 months, despite it being winter with little sun, we've only plugged in twice for a day. The huge benefit to us with this huge capacity is we can beach ourselves for 8 days, without any sun, or turning the engine on, use the house normally, electric cooking etc...and not have to worry. Then all we need in that circumstance is 24hrs with an AC plug (which is Europe is sometimes free) and we are good to go. As the sun has come out the past few weeks, with our 540W of solar, we can actually recharge around 10-20% in a day, more that what we use. In the summer I'd imagine this to be higher so I think we'll be just fine 😁 This capacity is amazing for winter, it's improved our quality of life significantly
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I definitely say that was the best video you have produced, good editing with pace and big close ups, well done to you both.
Thanks, we are glad you enjoyed it 😁 More videos coming up!
Awesome video! Very thorough from start to finish with the 4 month test... brilliant! Glad the beasts are doing you proud!
Thanks, glad you like it ☺️
Trying to lift that battery from above is no joke. I tried that from a truck bed with a 100 kg radiator and my back has never been the same. Three words: body mechanics. Thanks, another great vid. I have very simple wiring questions. If you have vid on heater wiring, pls let me know. Thanks!
Glad you are finding our visa useful. We do have a heater wiring vid and a schematic pdf.
Video: th-cam.com/video/Y3MZjhXc4q4/w-d-xo.html
Schematics: freedom-strider.com/project/van-hydronic-heating-system/
Remember that each heater wiring can vary so you must refer to the manufacturer's manuals to do it correctly.
Ours is an espar hydronic heater.
Wow 🤩 amazing upgrade! You’ve definitely done a full test 👍 safe travels.
Cheers, we are super happy with it. 😁
Great upgrade! Looking at exactly this system for our build. Interested to see if you get enough excess solar to harvest in the summer for a 12v water heating element...
Yes with electric water heating this battery power + our solar capacity (540w) should be enough for excess, however we don't have a hot water tank, we are using our hydronic heater with a heat exchanger so we have on demand hot water. Makes it hard to install something like this unless we have a separate hot water tank just for this purpose 👀
Hello, can you tell me how long it takes to charge the barriers to 100%, but it's not a small amount of curent 11.776 kWh
It depends how we charge. We have a small 30A AC charger and that takes around 31 hours from 0-100%, but we rarely are on that low. From 20-100% takes around 24 hours, so when we need to in the winter we park up at a campsite for a day and charge up. In hindsight, a larger ac charger would be nicer:)
Sam did an awesome 😎 job on that upgrade!!!
Thanks 😊
Sorry if I’ve missed this but would the battery be able to handle the low temperatures in the arctic circle in Norway or Iceland during winter?
These specific batteries, no, but Roamer do thier Xtreame batteries which can handle high charge/discharge down to -30C, you may want to check out @mispronouncedadventures who has been to the arctic with that battery 👍 (tell him we said hi)
That is a whole lot of Power!!! Nice.
Yeah we should be set now 😊
Why isnt your shunt on the negative side?
It is on the negative, we has a busbar on both sides and a shunt in the negative for our bmv
@@FreedomStrider ah okay I thought it was hooked to a thick red cable..
What did you do with the old batteries?
They are currently in storage with someone who can keep them healthy. We are either going to sell them or use them for another project. 😊
Im lokoing at the 460ah if I can squeeze it in my current battery compartment!
Have a look at TH-cam videos on building your own battery its so much cheaper and insanely simple.
If you can get 460ah it will really help you be more flexible.
Building your own battery is cool, we have considered it, one of the key notes to building lithiums is to be quite picky with the BMS you use, to keep your batteries safe.
@@FreedomStrider
Yeah. Tight squeeze looking at the specs, but it will replace the 200ah that I can use in other projects.
@@FreedomStrider I used a JBD 150amp one, not sure there's much in it between that one and the Daly but if I were buying now I'd probably get the JK with active balancing, one of the easiest jobs I did in the van and for a weekends work I have a 302ah battery for less than £700.
Wow That's a mad upgrade, I think only Seven O Savage has comparable battery capacity. You guys could run air con with that amount of power which for me is the ultimate luxury.
Yeah, the possibilities suddenly tripled with so much capacity, we are quite enjoying the extended off grid duration. We'll see how the summer is and if air con is one of the projects.
Which electric oven are you using?
Ninja 10 in 1 - we love it, it works great 😃
@@FreedomStrider Awesome! Yeah we're thinking of getting the 8-in-1 just to save on space, it uses the same 2400W. We have the exact same batteries here (2 x 460Ah Roamers) but we have only just started our build 😄
New system looks good.
Thanks 😊
Do you know for how long do you have to drive to charge them from 20% to100%?
Well 1 hour charges us about 5% (46ah), so it would take 16hours to get to 100%...charging at 50A. On a good solar day we can get anywhere between 10-20% recharge and our daily usage is only 10-15% of our capacity, so we can actually stay topped up with the sun (when it's there) 😉
I have two 200ah now and will add more. 1.6kW on my roof.
Why not swap to 24v? Will run much more efficiently
We were thinking using 24V but several reason why we didn't:
1. We'd already built everything for 12V, so switching to 24V would have meant alot more tinkering, plus our inverter is 12V, our MPPT is 12V, so would have involved buying those again too
2. We got these batteries before the S3 had come out so they didn't have the 230Ah 24V S3 out and we were leaving pretty pronto after this. We could have connected them together the other way to get 24V but...
3. Although 24V would have been more effecient for the inverter, everything else would have been the same and we would need 24v to 12v drop down boxes
I think if we were starting from scratch, and hadn't bought anything, 24V would have been the way to go, but since we already had 12v kit, the budget wouldn't have liked it 👀
Impressive project but totally weak from fire protection.
If you mean weak in terms of 'encased in a flammable couch'... then yes a full fireproof box is preferred. If you have any other fire safety notes we are happy to hear 🙂
It would be nice to run a portable air conditioner with those. Cool music choice in the video.
Air con will be lovely in the summer 🌞
2:52 😂the battery handle did the exact same thing as my mouth! 11kWhaaaat!! That’s jaw dropping serious power guys!
…It’s deceptive how big a DMC-12 is in the back! Looks much smaller in the movie 🤩
That handle was poetic 😂
Yeah it's amazing they fit, right! (now, all we need a flux capacitor)
@@FreedomStrider I rekon Shaun from @ProjectCamper could build you one 🤣
Your battery says s not S3
Yes we got a first batch of their S3's before they were for actual sale, so it's an early casing for their S3's :)
@@FreedomStrider You guys were on the sneaky VIP list ;)
920 ah WOW
😁... it's awesome!
anything more than 500ah is just for show and has no real benefit as charging becomes the biggest issue at that point, unless yoh drive for 5 hours a day
You're right that the biggest issue becomes recharge ability, as even with a large dcdc charger like ours (50a) it would still take around 16hrs to fully charge the batteries from 20%.
That being said, we haven't really had an issue with recharge. In the last 4 months, despite it being winter with little sun, we've only plugged in twice for a day.
The huge benefit to us with this huge capacity is we can beach ourselves for 8 days, without any sun, or turning the engine on, use the house normally, electric cooking etc...and not have to worry. Then all we need in that circumstance is 24hrs with an AC plug (which is Europe is sometimes free) and we are good to go.
As the sun has come out the past few weeks, with our 540W of solar, we can actually recharge around 10-20% in a day, more that what we use. In the summer I'd imagine this to be higher so I think we'll be just fine 😁
This capacity is amazing for winter, it's improved our quality of life significantly