Clearly a good player, and doesn’t play a bunch of nonsense show off bullshit to demonstrate, and keeps true to the mission of letting the differences and similarities of these instruments that both are perceived and which actually exist, speak for themselves. TREMENDOUS value in that kind of authenticity and transparency. Subscribe. I did.
He's definitely one huge Stingray fan here on TH-cam, w a sweet collection, and dedication to such a unique and amazing bass design. Ironically, during this sound test I liked the SUB and Ray34 just as much as any of the American examples. I'm sure the USA models feel and play much better, and that HH is of course the winner. But I'd be happy to take any of them on a gig and be just fine. (Says a lot about the lower end models, especially against say Mexican standard Jazz bass for example.)
#terrans #metalistruth #thekidsarealright #thankyoueddievanhalen th-cam.com/video/8Kjntjpnn7U/w-d-xo.html We're gonna be okay. There doesn't even have to be any gods, just another generation that wants to tear it up as bad as we did.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but as far as I’m concerned a Musicman is going to sound like a Musicman whether you spend a few hundred or a few thousand on one. You either like the Musicman tone or you don’t. The have that in common with Precision Basses as far as they all kind of sound the same and most people wouldn’t be able to tell a cheap one from an expensive one in a mix. Unless you have money to burn, it pays to cheap out on these basses.
Suggestion Box: For those of us who haven't developed "Stingray Fatigue" would love to see your take on the Stringray Short Scale passive. All the current reviews are coming from the folks trying to Sell rather than with your with critical and honest take.
Hey lobster, i need your advice, i'm in a band and we play a lot of rock styles from 60's rock and ballads to grunge and even trash metal. I would like to know which kind of bass would be better for me, i've been playing a p bass style for a few years
If we're talking in context of Rays in this vid, Minty or a Ray34 would fit the bill nicely (even HH). Outside of Rays, you have tons of possibilities depending on your budget... I'm biased but I'd say go for the FGN Mighty Power- th-cam.com/video/w7lJXqH6wz0/w-d-xo.html. This thing will do everything you want while sounding and playing incredibly.
That project Mint-o-Ray sounds and looks incredible! I really like that one. You’re getting some really nice tones out of that bass. I think I need one of those with the same mods. I hope you don’t mind me copying you
Thank you! Copy away my friend! I'm honestly stoked at how good it sounds. I sold the Mold Smoothie SUB and my Ray34, but Minty is a special project that isn't going anywhere (and isn't done yet ;) )
I guess I was expecting to see your US Sterling. Maybe I overlooked it in this video. Do you still have it? Just thinking, that's not really a Stingray. Or is it?
I did a separate video comparing the Sterling to the Stingray, but the Sterling isn't in this vid (I am not sure if I had it at this time or not). I sold it somewhat recently only because I never really played it much. I hate having instruments sit around and collect dust and want them to go to good homes :)
Thanks Ray Ray! The Darkglass project had the goal of trying to get away from the "traditional" stingray sound and image while maintaining some of the stingray character. The Ray34 and pre-facelift 2017 are definitely very similar in sound, and that difference definitely fades further in a mix. The differences at that point start to come down to personal preference in terms of feel. However, it's night and day between the pre and post facelift 'rays. I have a ton more stingray content coming, stay tuned my friend :)
Hey lobster I have a sterling S.U.B. WITH 5 SCREWS IN THE NECK but truss rod is cooked do you know where I can find replacement neck 4-string/ has Delano sonar 3 band and Delano humbucker pickup
With today's snow storm, I finally got a moment to watch this fantastic video. It's like taking a tour of a stingray museum with each piece expertly demonstrated. Fabulous job. Keep you claw out of the snow today!
I just came back from GC and played a Ray 34 after GASSING for a Ray 24... Now I want a RAY 34!!! Is the Ray 34 wired in parallel unlike the Ray 24 being wired in series?
The fretless was one of the best to me, sounded so beautiful! I also wonder if anybody could tell the difference between the cheapest sub vs the american special in a mix... Very nice basses
Extremely hard to tell, if set up right. My sterling sounds just as good as most ernie balls. Be careful what you hear online, try them out for yourself. I paid 500 for mine, (it's mint color with white pick guard, but I'm looking at the black pick guard) but it sounds great with D'darrio strings (which most videos don't show how great they sound with decent strings) buy do your research before spending 2500 on an ernie ball
All of them sound great 👍. I’m actually going to buy my first bass soon and it’s a stingray 34 HH with a burl top and trans black satin. It look knarley and sounds freaking amazing. Best tone with a huge punch. Can’t wait ❤
They all sound like Rays except for the tone glass Mint-o-Ray and the fretless.... The neck on the fretless is great looking and the BFR (BFE?) looks like a piece of candy, great color....
Thank you! I don't think you could tell from the camera angle but there are several bite marks... for... reasons.. on an unrelated note, it's not candy.
Are the Delano MM humbuckers alnico or ceramic magnet, and how naturally hot are they before the active preamp boosts everything? I'm intrigued and genuinely curious what aftermarket humbucker between $50-$70 to drop in my new Walnut stained S.U.B. Stingray. I can't decide whether the stock pickup, or the stock 2 band preamp's got to go first. It's not bad stock, but it's definitely not there yet when plugged in. Any advice guys?
I've the exact same bass man: I've owned several basses but that FGN is the best instrument I've ever had! Everything is insane on it, from the manual craftmanship to the finishes, all in the sign of a monster tone! FGN Guitars never disappoint, at the actual state of things they're waaaaaaaaaay better than any other brand in the World for me! Cheers & have fun with your new 1st class toy, Jöe
Lobster, I can’t make up my mind, I love the smoothie, love the sterling, love the stingray. I have a 2005 stringray 5 and I really love it because you have the pickup selector and the tone. I’m really more of a four string guy, but the stringray doesn’t have the selector for series, parallel and single. Not really interested in a multi pickup version of music man bass. What do you suggest for a a 4 string starter into the stingray line up? Cost isn’t really the factor, it’s just getting a piece I’m gonna love and keep forever.
Thank you! Great question! IMO the Ernie Ball Music Man USA Sterling is essentially a 4 string version of the Stingray 5 that you have. I have a full review of that coming, but here's a vid I did comparing it to the Stingray 4 - th-cam.com/video/9l5r96LBVr8/w-d-xo.html
I've to try to fly oversea despite the pandemic, just for trying to steal that Pink Ray beauty. I've just one fear about: the revenge who'll come from you claws, ahahahah! Just kidding! :) Cheers, Jöe
While it holds true for all instruments, I feel like MM, Sterling ray basses are less forgiving with bad sound setup. Having owned ray, sub4, sterling sub, none of them sounded good on my crappy setup while I could get a semi decent tone on a squire bass. I gotta say these do sound phenomenal with good pre/amp.
Thanks Kay! The Ray4/Sub especially due to the really crappy pickup. I did a video recently where we just swapped out the pickup for an Aguilar and kept the stock preamp. Huge difference.
It's unbelievable how much the price of Ray34 increased last years :( I compared one in a music shop with a Stingray Special and liked the Ray34 better.
@@LowEndLobster awesome thabk you so much for responding. I was going to grab a sub today but sprung for the ray 35 natural like you have. Sounds very nice. I normally play a 5 but want to get better with my slap and so wanted to get a stingray 4 string because I can't think of a better slapper then the stingray
a bit late I guess - have a OLP 5 string twin humbucker active bass . A previous owner upgraded these as these are the same bridge, pickups and active circuit as in my dual humbucker 5 string Music Man.... one wonders why? why find /pay for all those genuine parts and put it on the OLP - it was a dog to play, monster tones (literally the same as my Stingray) but the neck was horrible bowed and twisted, the bridge was mounted half arse and shielding almost nonexistent... I bought it as a "rescue bass" originally thought I could fix the body/neck issues but the reality is I'll probably just gut it and find a good second hand passive 5 string P or J copy and slap the hardware on that Apparently that was originally a Korean made OLP (didn't know they did that) but even if it was and was from a quality Korean maker like Samick it must have been poorly looked after (it has a totally beat body) so that's probably the case
Hey Speener! Going to make a video about this. I buy like 99% of the basses I review and sell them afterwards so my money is on the line vs having manufacturers send me stuff with strings attached. I have friends send me instruments as well, and we talk with some smaller builders and try to feature their stuff on here as well.
@@TFEnright5 damn. I bought an american performer jazz bass more than a month ago, and it hasn't arrived yet. I'll keep an eye on mf as soon as I have enought money saved. Thanks!
Thank you! I was just telling my friend that the Minty sounded incredible in this vid. It punches WELL above its weight and that Delano pickup sounds so great paired with the darkglass.
I love my Sterling Minty....it's all stock, but it sounds great stock! I even bought the floor model brand new as opposed to one in a box since the Guitar Center I went to had it set up perfectly. No other bass (not even more expensive ones) sounded as good as it did
Really cool comparison. I really enjoyed it😎🤟. I just ordered a 4 string special in snowy night and already own a black stealth 4 and 5 string. They are such iconic bass guitars. I cannot choose between my Fender jazz custom 5 string/Spector USA NS-2/Ibanez ATK 1200 prestige and my Music mans. They all have their iconic and recognizable sound.
Ordered a music man stingray special last night. Black/black hardware roasted maple neck. Never played a stingray and nowhere around me carries them. I actually hope I hate it and end up sending it back. These are not inexpensive instruments lol. You have quite a nice investment there on your wall!
Leo Fender Made the Music Man for Louis Johnson's Hard Driving Thumping and Plucking, it was the Only Bass that could Take the Punishment, @LowEndLobster
Sterling states that their H-1 Ceramic Humbucker pickup is wired in Series on SUB Basses, so hotter and more distorted than MM's Parallel configuration
There is a "wizard" guy on You Tube who did a video comparing the USA H to HH. He says the HH can't do the same tone on the H pickup. Also he says you can't slap on a HH because you will contact the neck pickup. Personally, I disagree on both. How about doing a video comparing the H to HH. Is the bridge pickup wired the same on these basses?
Thanks David! You bring up an excellent point. So I know of the video you're talking about and that statement is somewhat right but only in a very specific circumstance. When looking at the USA Stingray H and HH (NOT the Stingray Special H and HH mind you), from what I understand the HH had the humbuckers wired in series when the full humbucker was engaged (positions 1, 3 and 5), where the regular Stingray 4 H is wired in the traditional parallel config. For this circumstance, the dude is absolutely correct. I have not played or looked at a Sterling Ray34HH but I know the Ray34H is wired in parallel. Now in a more modern context with the Stingray Special basses, these are wired in parallel for both the H and HH. I did a comparison video with mine which you can see here- th-cam.com/video/Y6PNVtqQ4Mg/w-d-xo.html Great question and comment David!
Nice comparison! I really liked the old smoothie and stingray special HH. My Stingray special HH should arrive any day! I went with the classic natural with maple fretboard.
It is weird how once u get one stingray it becomes an addiction to just collect them and like you said they become a family. I've acquired 3 in 2 months and have a 4th 2020 blackout stinger on layaway lmao
Hey Lobster you got any Fender custom shops in your massive arsenal? I played my first one this past Saturday,if you find the EMPIRE music video about the 66 custom reissue,that's the actual bass I played when I was there,now I can't get enough fender custom shop in my brain,I NEED MORE CUSTOM SHOP!!! LOL
Mojo and 2017 sound pretty mean. Dark glass is so clear with mids that sparkle. Fretless is very unorthadox and sounds like a blast to play. Stingrays are amazing all Around but those stand out to me.
I have one of the older SUB basses. According to Sterling it was made in 2013. It doesn't have the string tree nor the silver plate over the controls. I think it might be rare. I haven't found any like mine on the web. The pick-up on it is hot. I play mine in nearly the same sound configuration as Lobster. I'm not sure if I'm going to mod it or not. I have a set of Ernie Ball Slinky 100-45 on the way.
Hey 👋 thank you for the review. I have always had different models of Fender American Jazz Bass and I’m planning to shift to a Musicman. My choice till now has been 40th anniversary. Is there any better option? Im looking for a funky versatile Musicman. What do you suggest?
Thanks Alborz! That's a tough question as there are so many stingrays that check so many boxes for me. The Special is more versatile and modern sounding, but the SR Classic just sounds and feels soooo good. I can't decide ;P
@@LowEndLobster honestly the thing is price. They are both awesome basses but 2 grand for the color i want just to play around is a little steep But there is a new ash black with white wood grain out for the ray34 and it looks so good. You are right about the sparkle. Eb just has a way with eye catching.
@@LowEndLobster i have $250 so far and i bought a fender rumble 500. So hopefully Christmas if not my birthday in January. Are you using the stock strings. They sound pretty good
I'm now kinda getting used to your sense of humor, and the obvious, & often self gushing over your sick collection of amazing basses you own and love. Lol, I can't say I blame ya man. Although I still think the yellow one is quite ugly haha! Also, you single-handedly kind of got me back into Stingrays again after a 15-year break, so thank you for that! Anyway, you've probably covered this in the past, but since I'm new here, what amp/rig/setup are you playing when you demo/compare basses in your man cave?? Question please, what aftermarket 2 band preamp, other than your DarkGlass would you recommend to pair w the Delano humbucker in your mint Stingray that would sound growly, but maybe come across with a bit more warmth to the signature MM punch? I've had good luck with the Aguilar OBP 2 in the past, but your experience in this depo/& opinion would be much appreciated, thanks! I love the sound of the mint Stingray, but somehow it's too clear/sterile IMHO. Like half Stingray, and half Modulus. (Which is great if that's what you were going for, just really different, so squeaky bright & clear!
Thanks Seth :), glad to have you here! For my videos, I'm using an Orange Crush 50 BXP (has the dedicated line out compared to the regular Crush 50), going into my Focusrite through the line out. It's a nice home amp and sounds solid. My main "gig" amp is a GK Micro 200 head (will be changing), and my Accugroove Tri112L cab which I've had for over a decade. Great question on the preamp, both Seymour Duncan and Mojotone have really nice preamps that would work well here and are very wallet friendly. I have some Aguilar stuff in route for an SUB comparison project, but so far I only have the pickup (which has been installed and sounds great with the stock SUB preamp, big improvement). I'm excited to see how the Aguilar stuff compares. Honestly, I'd be able to give you a much better recommendation once the rest of the pickups and preamps arrive for the comparison - then you'll be able to hear it for yourself! That's what one of my main goals is for the channel, I like to give my opinion on things but the sound clips with the basic signal chain speak for themselves. I very much hear the modulus comparison with Minty, I haven't played one in a while but it definitely has more of that hi-fi/modern rock tone largely due to that Darkglass "sound". My goal for that project was an unorthidox combination of parts that would give the bass a unique and unusual personality compared to the more traditional/classic feel of the regular Stingray. With that, I think we greatly succeeded!
I think the best value for money is the Sterling Ray24CA (or 25) for $499 ($550 for the 5-string). But that only has a 2-band preamp. Not a problem for me.
Looking to try one of those out! It's not the same two band as the SUB from what I understand, and it has an upgraded pickup. Hopefully I'll snag one soon :)
@@jaxonvictoria4345 Might eventually do that. The Ray24CA feels noticeably better to hold and play than the Sub4 ($299.99). The Ray24 is worth the extra money over the Sub4 and waiting to try out the Ray24 and Ray34 first saved me money when the sale started and temporarily made the price difference between the Ray24 and Sub4 only $50. The feel and play between the Ray24 and Ray34 seemed narrow compared to the wider feel and play difference between the Ray24 and the Sub4.
Years ago I got a 76 silver stingray (77) with the Foam mutes on the Bridge. I hated that Bass( did not know much about proper set ups) could never get it to feel right. Never played traded it for a 1984 FODERA mornarch. Loved my Fodera but always regretted selling the Stingray. Like them Now. That Bass was a Classic!!
Thanks Calvin! If you ever get a chance, check out the SR Classic. Mine is easily top 5 basses of all time for me. Don't ask me to pick where it stands in that 5, too hard ;P
Well…I finally found one I like, and couldn’t leave the store without it. All the “sterling by MM” I tried, just didn’t “do it”for me. I just came to terms that I’m not a MM fan. So I figured the US MM couldn’t be that much better, so didn’t bother worrying how much they are…and DAMN! they are pricey. …but, the way we as humans are wired…you find what you really need/want/ connect with in a special way, is there, waiting for you to stop looking for what isn’t there, and to see what is! I normally prefer maple fretboards and passive circuitry, but WHAM!!!! Rosewood and active!!! Anyway, I don’t know if you still read older posts, but…Cheers, Lobster Will! I finally get it..at least, I finally found one I like. I don’t know if it’s even considered “decent, in comparison” but it’s a 2003 Music Man SUB and it plays real nice. I don’t think you have done a video on one (that is, I don’t remember if you did) but I’m curious, what your thoughts on them are? Cheers
1. I was somewhat expecting you to play with that lobster hand on and was slightly disappointed. 2. Darn, I need to practice a lot to not even come close to your playing. 3. Apart from sound, what are the differences in playability (except for the fretless of course)? Do they all play equally smooth?
heheh great question! I felt that the Ray34 and '17 Ray were very close in feel, though the Sterling had a bit of a rougher neck finish (can be fixed with some 0000 steel wool). The "Classic" rays like the Smoothie, Stingray Classic, Sabre classic, etc. with the thick gloss on the neck has one sort of feel, where the satin finished modern necks are very different. I've actually been on a huge SR Classic kick, and my ray and sabre classic have been my favorites as of late (vids coming on them soon). Overall, they're all in the same ballpark of playability. They're comfortable, well built instruments and they've been able to maintain those aspects across the entire lineup. The lower end models use cheaper materials (basswood in the SUBs, cheap electronics in the SUB, no compensated nut on the sterlings, no headstock gloss, etc.), but they're able to offer up a wide range of instruments at different price points that all still feel familiar.
This video is awesome. I've been window shopping and sitting down at some music stores during the year and that ray 34 is the coolest that they have had in-store to play. As far as budget, that is probably the one I'm going to go with. That fretless is soooo gnarly tho. Really dig the old smoothie too. Is it possible to mod that ray 34 with the newer electronics?
Thanks Mike! You could, however sourcing the pickup and preamp would be $$, and you'd need to mod the body for a second battery box as the new preamp is 18v.
Hi there lobster. I'm trying to find an EMG pickups for my stingray without any luck. My next option is a Delano. Can you please give me some info? Thanks brother.
What strings are you using? I have USA SR 5HH and had other USA SRs. I also have a Sterling Sub 5 and an HH one as well. They are very good inexpensive basses even stock. Enjoyed your video!
@@LowEndLobster 1of the best i had was a maison serius active chip but real good for slap .more brutal better for me the guy i mention before works more than 4 alboms with yamaha active fretless and hevis not a metronom a real live 1 tracktors reavenge .keep on creating good stuff
Lol. I have the 5 string OLP that he rips on at the beginning. I'm in desperate need of an upgrade, but I can't decide! Budget is $500 and I need 5 strings. Playing indie pop type music mostly. What should I doooo?
If you dig the stingray style, the Sterlings are a really nice budget option (and the higher end ones can be had for a great price lightly used). If you want something more traditional but still active- the Talman TMB505, Sire V3 5-string are great options too.
Thanks Martin! The SUBs get underestimated but they're such great mod platforms. We'll definitely be doing a 5 stringer mod, as there's a lot more things to consider on the 5 vs the 4. The 4 stringer uses a lot more 'standard sized' parts, and the string spacing and pickup shape doesn't vary too much between variants of SBMM and USA EBMM. The 5'er is all over the place in both string spacing and pickup shape which I think we should address with mods. The stock SUB5 has 16.5mm spacing where the Ray35 and USA models have 17.5mm. Quality 5 string replacement bridges of this spacing aren't that readily available (I need to do some digging).
40th Anniversary Old Smoothie was easily my favorite. Like a more open, sweet version of the others. And now I'm considering replacing my broken fretless with an MM style....
Hey Lobster, out of curiosity, what flats do you use? I've strung my 'Ray with D'Addario Flats for the longest time and have been pretty happy with them. Not sure if I should move around or not.
I have a chance to buy the BFR pink champagne stingray.......you are tempting me lol, the only problem I have is that I would have to play it, not put it away as a collectible!! Thanks for the comparison video....and I loved the sterling with the dark glass preamp!!
LowEndLobster anytime! Also about the fretless are there any fretless stingrays out there with lines where the frets would be? Because I wanna start playing fretless bass and I love the sound of that fretless stingray but I wanna start with a Fretless with lines on the neck as well?
@@cleebo1322 That's a tough one. Most of the Stingray fretlesses are unlined, but you could snag a Ray24CA and have it defretted (or try it yourself!).
Clearly a good player, and doesn’t play a bunch of nonsense show off bullshit to demonstrate, and keeps true to the mission of letting the differences and similarities of these instruments that both are perceived and which actually exist, speak for themselves.
TREMENDOUS value in that kind of authenticity and transparency.
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Thank you Brad! I really appreciate it. That's exactly what I'm going for!
The winner? All of us who get to watch.
Thanks Klay :D
Old Smoothie
Agreed
I think he likes stingray
Just a little.... ;P
He's definitely one huge Stingray fan here on TH-cam, w a sweet collection, and dedication to such a unique and amazing bass design.
Ironically, during this sound test I liked the SUB and Ray34 just as much as any of the American examples.
I'm sure the USA models feel and play much better, and that HH is of course the winner. But I'd be happy to take any of them on a gig and be just fine.
(Says a lot about the lower end models, especially against say Mexican standard Jazz bass for example.)
God Stingrays has always been one of my favorite Basses EVER!!!!!! This video is just making want one over a jazz bass more and more!!!!!!
ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ;)
Ibanez ATK810 Lobster reviewed one, could be the best of all possible worlds for you!
Ye!!! Join us!!!!
My son has a J-bass, I prefer my stingray.
Why not get both who said I have to many guitars.....no one ever
This was a Stingray Buffet to the MAX!!
I loved it and it’s my second time watching it.
In about a year I’ll watch it again.
“Lobster Mode” so cool👍🏽
Thank you Sumbi Sumbi!
When Lobster breaks out with Primus, the Gods smile.
#terrans #metalistruth #thekidsarealright #thankyoueddievanhalen
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We're gonna be okay. There doesn't even have to be any gods, just another generation that wants to tear it up as bad as we did.
Hey babbeh where did my reply go
@@LowEndLobster it laid down by my side
Man, the fretboard on that fretless bass is IMMACULATE. Extremely jealous.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but as far as I’m concerned a Musicman is going to sound like a Musicman whether you spend a few hundred or a few thousand on one. You either like the Musicman tone or you don’t. The have that in common with Precision Basses as far as they all kind of sound the same and most people wouldn’t be able to tell a cheap one from an expensive one in a mix. Unless you have money to burn, it pays to cheap out on these basses.
Suggestion Box: For those of us who haven't developed "Stingray Fatigue" would love to see your take on the Stringray Short Scale passive. All the current reviews are coming from the folks trying to Sell rather than with your with critical and honest take.
Thank you and YES! Trying to snag a sterling one, and my friend just got an EBMM one... I wonder if he'll send it my way.
Hey lobster, i need your advice, i'm in a band and we play a lot of rock styles from 60's rock and ballads to grunge and even trash metal.
I would like to know which kind of bass would be better for me, i've been playing a p bass style for a few years
If we're talking in context of Rays in this vid, Minty or a Ray34 would fit the bill nicely (even HH). Outside of Rays, you have tons of possibilities depending on your budget... I'm biased but I'd say go for the FGN Mighty Power- th-cam.com/video/w7lJXqH6wz0/w-d-xo.html. This thing will do everything you want while sounding and playing incredibly.
@@LowEndLobster thanks
That project Mint-o-Ray sounds and looks incredible! I really like that one. You’re getting some really nice tones out of that bass. I think I need one of those with the same mods. I hope you don’t mind me copying you
Thank you! Copy away my friend! I'm honestly stoked at how good it sounds. I sold the Mold Smoothie SUB and my Ray34, but Minty is a special project that isn't going anywhere (and isn't done yet ;) )
I guess I was expecting to see your US Sterling. Maybe I overlooked it in this video. Do you still have it? Just thinking, that's not really a Stingray. Or is it?
I did a separate video comparing the Sterling to the Stingray, but the Sterling isn't in this vid (I am not sure if I had it at this time or not). I sold it somewhat recently only because I never really played it much. I hate having instruments sit around and collect dust and want them to go to good homes :)
That HH ruled the other ones IMO. Interesting to hear them side by side.
Thanks Keith!
Agree
They all have their unique qualities. But Mint-o-Ray was my favourite. Followed by the sparkly one, then Old Smoothie, then the 34.
Thanks Rev! Yeah Minty really came out great.
I dig the Darkglass Preamp over the Mojotone for my SUB project,but the Ray34 sounds the closest to a USA EBMM We thank you for this comparison.
Thanks Ray Ray! The Darkglass project had the goal of trying to get away from the "traditional" stingray sound and image while maintaining some of the stingray character. The Ray34 and pre-facelift 2017 are definitely very similar in sound, and that difference definitely fades further in a mix. The differences at that point start to come down to personal preference in terms of feel. However, it's night and day between the pre and post facelift 'rays. I have a ton more stingray content coming, stay tuned my friend :)
Hey lobster I have a sterling S.U.B. WITH 5 SCREWS IN THE NECK but truss rod is cooked do you know where I can find replacement neck 4-string/ has Delano sonar 3 band and Delano humbucker pickup
Sounds like you got an SB4 that has the Sterling shaped body. Not sure where you can go to get a new neck, but I wish you luck!
You deserve so many more subs, the quality of your videos and edits are fantastic. Keep keeping on!
Thank you!
With today's snow storm, I finally got a moment to watch this fantastic video. It's like taking a tour of a stingray museum with each piece expertly demonstrated. Fabulous job. Keep you claw out of the snow today!
Thanks Bob! Gotta get up early to snow blow ahahaha
That Pink Champagne Stingray Special is a bucketlist bass for me!
That fretless also sounds amazing!
Thanks Donald!
I just came back from GC and played a Ray 34 after GASSING for a Ray 24...
Now I want a RAY 34!!! Is the Ray 34 wired in parallel unlike the Ray 24 being wired in series?
Awesome! Yes, Ray34 is wired in Parallel from what I understand w/ an Alnico pickup. Pretty much as close as you can get to a USA (non-special) 'Ray.
@@LowEndLobster Thank you for your fast reply! Time to sell off some Jazz and Ibanez Basses 😈
Musicman has its own tone that most basses don't. Great video
Indeed! I can't get enough of em!
The fretless was one of the best to me, sounded so beautiful! I also wonder if anybody could tell the difference between the cheapest sub vs the american special in a mix... Very nice basses
Thanks! It's funny, the SUB stock is very different sounding to a USA Stingray, but some mods can get you VERY close without breaking the bank.
Extremely hard to tell, if set up right. My sterling sounds just as good as most ernie balls. Be careful what you hear online, try them out for yourself. I paid 500 for mine, (it's mint color with white pick guard, but I'm looking at the black pick guard) but it sounds great with D'darrio strings (which most videos don't show how great they sound with decent strings) buy do your research before spending 2500 on an ernie ball
All of them sound great 👍. I’m actually going to buy my first bass soon and it’s a stingray 34 HH with a burl top and trans black satin. It look knarley and sounds freaking amazing. Best tone with a huge punch. Can’t wait ❤
They all sound like Rays except for the tone glass Mint-o-Ray and the fretless.... The neck on the fretless is great looking and the BFR (BFE?) looks like a piece of candy, great color....
Thank you! I don't think you could tell from the camera angle but there are several bite marks... for... reasons.. on an unrelated note, it's not candy.
Lobster, is the ray34 worth 2x the sub in your excellent opinion?
Hi Michael! Great question. Yes, I think the Ray34 is definitely worth it. The 24 shares some components with the SUB, but the 34 does not.
The ray34 has the same preamp as the sub? Thanks man
@@horrorshowbass the 24 does, 34 is its own 3 band
@@LowEndLobster thanks, that might be the clincher
Just go the Harley Benton 'Stingray'. Used your advice on the tone for my EQ pedal and totally dig it.
Congrats Jo! Enjoy :)
Love the "hifi-ish" sound of the delano pickups.
Thanks Sandy! I agree, they sound great and "hifi-ish". Well said :)
Are the Delano MM humbuckers alnico or ceramic magnet, and how naturally hot are they before the active preamp boosts everything?
I'm intrigued and genuinely curious what aftermarket humbucker between $50-$70 to drop in my new Walnut stained S.U.B. Stingray.
I can't decide whether the stock pickup, or the stock 2 band preamp's got to go first.
It's not bad stock, but it's definitely not there yet when plugged in.
Any advice guys?
Great job again lobster! Friday i received the FGN JMJ-ASH-M. with the mm seymour duncan pickup, what sounds great!
I've the exact same bass man: I've owned several basses but that FGN is the best instrument I've ever had! Everything is insane on it, from the manual craftmanship to the finishes, all in the sign of a monster tone!
FGN Guitars never disappoint, at the actual state of things they're waaaaaaaaaay better than any other brand in the World for me!
Cheers & have fun with your new 1st class toy,
Jöe
Thank you! Congrats on the new bass! :)
man, you are definitely one of the best bass players of the bass content channels
Thank you Julian! That really means a lot :) I'm so glad you're enjoying the content
@@LowEndLobster thank you man, great videos. I am almost stalking you :p
Lobster, I can’t make up my mind, I love the smoothie, love the sterling, love the stingray. I have a 2005 stringray 5 and I really love it because you have the pickup selector and the tone. I’m really more of a four string guy, but the stringray doesn’t have the selector for series, parallel and single. Not really interested in a multi pickup version of music man bass. What do you suggest for a a 4 string starter into the stingray line up? Cost isn’t really the factor, it’s just getting a piece I’m gonna love and keep forever.
Thank you! Great question! IMO the Ernie Ball Music Man USA Sterling is essentially a 4 string version of the Stingray 5 that you have. I have a full review of that coming, but here's a vid I did comparing it to the Stingray 4 - th-cam.com/video/9l5r96LBVr8/w-d-xo.html
Call me a crazy Boomer but: Old Smoothie was my favorite. That impromptu song to your lady was a smooth move BTW 😎👍
Thanks Boomer :D, haha she enjoyed that as well. My songwriting skills are vastly underrated ;P
@@LowEndLobster You have seriously rare ones BTW. My rarest is a 1 of 300 Takamine arrow bass from the 80s. No idea which one of the 300 it is though.
I've to try to fly oversea despite the pandemic, just for trying to steal that Pink Ray beauty.
I've just one fear about: the revenge who'll come from you claws, ahahahah!
Just kidding! :)
Cheers,
Jöe
Ahahahaha thanks Jöe!
While it holds true for all instruments, I feel like MM, Sterling ray basses are less forgiving with bad sound setup. Having owned ray, sub4, sterling sub, none of them sounded good on my crappy setup while I could get a semi decent tone on a squire bass. I gotta say these do sound phenomenal with good pre/amp.
Thanks Kay! The Ray4/Sub especially due to the really crappy pickup. I did a video recently where we just swapped out the pickup for an Aguilar and kept the stock preamp. Huge difference.
Very good point.
It's unbelievable how much the price of Ray34 increased last years :( I compared one in a music shop with a Stingray Special and liked the Ray34 better.
Thanks for this great comparison demo! I've ordered a Ray34 single p up and soooo excited !!
You're very welcome! Congrats on your new bass :)
I bought my 2006 MM SR5 HH for $1080 and it was the cheapest I’ve ever seen one. It only had one little ding and it’s fantastic.
Nice! What color is yours?
Music Man bass porn... Was it stuffed shells? lol
XD
How was the comparison?
-Not bad 😎
Gian memes! Thank you :)
Hey brother, is there a difference in the pickups from the EB musicman to the sterling Ray 34?
Yes, a BIG difference. Ray34 pickup is Alnico and very similar to USA Stingray. Ray24 and SUB use Ceramic
@@LowEndLobster awesome thabk you so much for responding. I was going to grab a sub today but sprung for the ray 35 natural like you have. Sounds very nice. I normally play a 5 but want to get better with my slap and so wanted to get a stingray 4 string because I can't think of a better slapper then the stingray
a bit late I guess - have a OLP 5 string twin humbucker active bass .
A previous owner upgraded these as these are the same bridge, pickups and active circuit as in my dual humbucker 5 string Music Man.... one wonders why? why find /pay for all those genuine parts and put it on the OLP - it was a dog to play, monster tones (literally the same as my Stingray) but the neck was horrible bowed and twisted, the bridge was mounted half arse and shielding almost nonexistent... I bought it as a "rescue bass" originally thought I could fix the body/neck issues but the reality is I'll probably just gut it and find a good second hand passive 5 string P or J copy and slap the hardware on that
Apparently that was originally a Korean made OLP (didn't know they did that) but even if it was and was from a quality Korean maker like Samick it must have been poorly looked after (it has a totally beat body) so that's probably the case
How many basses do you have in your collection? Do they get donated to you for these reviews? Fantastic channel and great reviews!
Hey Speener! Going to make a video about this. I buy like 99% of the basses I review and sell them afterwards so my money is on the line vs having manufacturers send me stuff with strings attached. I have friends send me instruments as well, and we talk with some smaller builders and try to feature their stuff on here as well.
Benjamin Orr put the Stingray into the imaginations of a new generation of Bass Players.
They have got two of those HH specials in Andertons in the UK. I'd pull the trigger on one but £3,299,00 is a bit over my budget
How many kidneys are you working with ;P?
That Ray 34 us the Truth. Thanks for putting me up on some game🎸
11lbs though
How did you find that Ray 34 so cheap? I wish i could buy one, but i see the used price at around US$750
MF has these for sale every now and then for $599! I keep an eye on em.
On sale right now at MF for $599. Guitar Center will match that price since they own MF.
@@TFEnright5 damn. I bought an american performer jazz bass more than a month ago, and it hasn't arrived yet. I'll keep an eye on mf as soon as I have enought money saved. Thanks!
Just bought a used Ray34... can't wait to receive it !!!
I own OLP hh stingray made in Korea and it is not as bad as you said at all! Just don't buy Chinese OLP
Thanks! I didn't know they made HH OLPs, awesome!
Honestly I like the Mint-o-Ray the best I think. The slap tone was rad. Has me want to do a Ray HH with the same mods.
Thank you! I was just telling my friend that the Minty sounded incredible in this vid. It punches WELL above its weight and that Delano pickup sounds so great paired with the darkglass.
I love my Sterling Minty....it's all stock, but it sounds great stock! I even bought the floor model brand new as opposed to one in a box since the Guitar Center I went to had it set up perfectly. No other bass (not even more expensive ones) sounded as good as it did
My favorite is Pre EB
Thank you! Hope to try one someday
Where did you get a ray 34 for $599???🤷🏻♂️
Musicians friend sale. Seen them drop to that price on several occasions last year
@@LowEndLobster Wow that's crazy cheap! I live in England I think the cheapest I've seen them is about £800 which is $1091
p.s thanks for the reply!
Lobster! I love your videos, man. Thank you! Just picked up my 2nd bass - a Ray34 =)
Thank you! Congrats :)
Oh my gosh I'm so glad I watched until the end. PRICELESS!!!
I totally forgot what was at the end of this and had to rewatch ahahahaha. Now I want onion rings.
Just bought two more stingrays.
ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
YES! Thank you so much! :-)
Also.......
I`m taking a shit
You're very welcome! I have one brewing myself, proud poopers unite
@@LowEndLobster We are all brothers in this shit :-)
Really cool comparison. I really enjoyed it😎🤟. I just ordered a 4 string special in snowy night and already own a black stealth 4 and 5 string. They are such iconic bass guitars. I cannot choose between my Fender jazz custom 5 string/Spector USA NS-2/Ibanez ATK 1200 prestige and my Music mans. They all have their iconic and recognizable sound.
he was hoping for the stuffed shells.
nom nom nom
Ordered a music man stingray special last night. Black/black hardware roasted maple neck. Never played a stingray and nowhere around me carries them. I actually hope I hate it and end up sending it back. These are not inexpensive instruments lol. You have quite a nice investment there on your wall!
@@Bobby_Uterus thank you Bobby! Congrats on your new bass! I have a similar spec Ray34 coming today for some mod fun :)
Can’t wait to see some video of the project
favorite: The fretless!
Thanks Geert! I got that because of Donny Benet. He transmitted the Ray bug to me, and now I'm a super-spreader.
now you need a g&l CLF l2000 buddy
I really need to check those out
Leo Fender Made the Music Man for Louis Johnson's Hard Driving Thumping and Plucking, it was the Only Bass that could Take the Punishment, @LowEndLobster
Thanks George! Indeed, I loooooove my stingrays :)
Sterling states that their H-1 Ceramic Humbucker pickup is wired in Series on SUB Basses, so hotter and more distorted than MM's Parallel configuration
Indeed!
There is a "wizard" guy on You Tube who did a video comparing the USA H to HH. He says the HH can't do the same tone on the H pickup. Also he says you can't slap on a HH because you will contact the neck pickup. Personally, I disagree on both. How about doing a video comparing the H to HH. Is the bridge pickup wired the same on these basses?
Thanks David! You bring up an excellent point. So I know of the video you're talking about and that statement is somewhat right but only in a very specific circumstance. When looking at the USA Stingray H and HH (NOT the Stingray Special H and HH mind you), from what I understand the HH had the humbuckers wired in series when the full humbucker was engaged (positions 1, 3 and 5), where the regular Stingray 4 H is wired in the traditional parallel config. For this circumstance, the dude is absolutely correct. I have not played or looked at a Sterling Ray34HH but I know the Ray34H is wired in parallel. Now in a more modern context with the Stingray Special basses, these are wired in parallel for both the H and HH. I did a comparison video with mine which you can see here- th-cam.com/video/Y6PNVtqQ4Mg/w-d-xo.html
Great question and comment David!
Nice comparison! I really liked the old smoothie and stingray special HH. My Stingray special HH should arrive any day! I went with the classic natural with maple fretboard.
Thank you and congrats on your new bass! Enjoy it my friend!
It is weird how once u get one stingray it becomes an addiction to just collect them and like you said they become a family. I've acquired 3 in 2 months and have a 4th 2020 blackout stinger on layaway lmao
The Ray is the way!
Hey Lobster you got any Fender custom shops in your massive arsenal? I played my first one this past Saturday,if you find the EMPIRE music video about the 66 custom reissue,that's the actual bass I played when I was there,now I can't get enough fender custom shop in my brain,I NEED MORE CUSTOM SHOP!!! LOL
Hey Aaron, I do not. Would love to check one out in the future though!
For mi the last one wirh 2 hummbuckers
Thanks! :D That one is sweet
Mojo and 2017 sound pretty mean. Dark glass is so clear with mids that sparkle. Fretless is very unorthadox and sounds like a blast to play. Stingrays are amazing all Around but those stand out to me.
Thank you :) I really enjoy them all!
Let’s gooooo
WOOO!
what is the weight of the Ray34?
They vary greatly, but mine was about 11 lbs
Wow! pink champagne. Suuuuuuuper nice bass ! From mtw - super frequent jam nighter in LA. 2013-2019.
Thank you :)
thanks for this channel man.. i saw my EBMM stingray 2000 model natural finish.. cheers
Thanks Don Enzo!
I have one of the older SUB basses. According to Sterling it was made in 2013. It doesn't have the string tree nor the silver plate over the controls. I think it might be rare. I haven't found any like mine on the web. The pick-up on it is hot. I play mine in nearly the same sound configuration as Lobster. I'm not sure if I'm going to mod it or not. I have a set of Ernie Ball Slinky 100-45 on the way.
That's an SB4!
Hey 👋 thank you for the review.
I have always had different models of Fender American Jazz Bass and I’m planning to shift to a Musicman. My choice till now has been 40th anniversary. Is there any better option? Im looking for a funky versatile Musicman. What do you suggest?
Thanks Alborz! That's a tough question as there are so many stingrays that check so many boxes for me. The Special is more versatile and modern sounding, but the SR Classic just sounds and feels soooo good. I can't decide ;P
I can't wait to get my sterling ray 34. I really want a charcoal sparkle eb mm but i am going to have to settle for the ray 34 ash black
EB does such a great job with the sparkles, makes me drool every time. I'm excited for you to get your Ray as well my friend :).
@@LowEndLobster honestly the thing is price. They are both awesome basses but 2 grand for the color i want just to play around is a little steep
But there is a new ash black with white wood grain out for the ray34 and it looks so good. You are right about the sparkle. Eb just has a way with eye catching.
@@ChipsA17 Indeed! I remember you had mentioned the black ash one. How much longer until she's in your hands? :)
@@LowEndLobster i have $250 so far and i bought a fender rumble 500. So hopefully Christmas if not my birthday in January. Are you using the stock strings. They sound pretty good
@@ChipsA17 All the rounds on here were MJC Ironworks Nickel Plated Stainless Steel 45-105 :)
I'm now kinda getting used to your sense of humor, and the obvious, & often self gushing over your sick collection of amazing basses you own and love.
Lol, I can't say I blame ya man. Although I still think the yellow one is quite ugly haha!
Also, you single-handedly kind of got me back into Stingrays again after a 15-year break, so thank you for that!
Anyway, you've probably covered this in the past, but since I'm new here, what amp/rig/setup are you playing when you demo/compare basses in your man cave??
Question please, what aftermarket 2 band preamp, other than your DarkGlass would you recommend to pair w the Delano humbucker in your mint Stingray that would sound growly, but maybe come across with a bit more warmth to the signature MM punch? I've had good luck with the Aguilar OBP 2 in the past, but your experience in this depo/& opinion would be much appreciated, thanks!
I love the sound of the mint Stingray, but somehow it's too clear/sterile IMHO. Like half Stingray, and half Modulus.
(Which is great if that's what you were going for, just really different, so squeaky bright & clear!
Thanks Seth :), glad to have you here! For my videos, I'm using an Orange Crush 50 BXP (has the dedicated line out compared to the regular Crush 50), going into my Focusrite through the line out. It's a nice home amp and sounds solid. My main "gig" amp is a GK Micro 200 head (will be changing), and my Accugroove Tri112L cab which I've had for over a decade.
Great question on the preamp, both Seymour Duncan and Mojotone have really nice preamps that would work well here and are very wallet friendly. I have some Aguilar stuff in route for an SUB comparison project, but so far I only have the pickup (which has been installed and sounds great with the stock SUB preamp, big improvement). I'm excited to see how the Aguilar stuff compares. Honestly, I'd be able to give you a much better recommendation once the rest of the pickups and preamps arrive for the comparison - then you'll be able to hear it for yourself! That's what one of my main goals is for the channel, I like to give my opinion on things but the sound clips with the basic signal chain speak for themselves.
I very much hear the modulus comparison with Minty, I haven't played one in a while but it definitely has more of that hi-fi/modern rock tone largely due to that Darkglass "sound". My goal for that project was an unorthidox combination of parts that would give the bass a unique and unusual personality compared to the more traditional/classic feel of the regular Stingray. With that, I think we greatly succeeded!
I think the best value for money is the Sterling Ray24CA (or 25) for $499 ($550 for the 5-string). But that only has a 2-band preamp. Not a problem for me.
Looking to try one of those out! It's not the same two band as the SUB from what I understand, and it has an upgraded pickup. Hopefully I'll snag one soon :)
LowEndLobster yeah I’m looking for one used as well! No luck yet, but I may just pull the trigger on a brand new one.
@@jaxonvictoria4345 I just purchased a brand new Sterling by MM Ray24CA for $349.99.
@@donh5794 what a steal! Now slap on a Nordstrand on it and it will SLAPP
@@jaxonvictoria4345 Might eventually do that. The Ray24CA feels noticeably better to hold and play than the Sub4 ($299.99). The Ray24 is worth the extra money over the Sub4 and waiting to try out the Ray24 and Ray34 first saved me money when the sale started and temporarily made the price difference between the Ray24 and Sub4 only $50. The feel and play between the Ray24 and Ray34 seemed narrow compared to the wider feel and play difference between the Ray24 and the Sub4.
Years ago I got a 76 silver stingray (77) with the Foam mutes on the Bridge. I hated that Bass( did not know much about proper set ups) could never get it to feel right. Never played traded it for a 1984 FODERA mornarch. Loved my Fodera but always regretted selling the Stingray. Like them Now. That Bass was a Classic!!
Thanks Calvin! If you ever get a chance, check out the SR Classic. Mine is easily top 5 basses of all time for me. Don't ask me to pick where it stands in that 5, too hard ;P
I notice you only have one HH-is there any reason for that?
I got two Sabres too ;P. Honestly I have always been a bit of a Stingray traditionalist
@@LowEndLobster So in the Stingray world, H is traditional and HH is "modern", so to speak?
Well…I finally found one I like, and couldn’t leave the store without it. All the “sterling by MM” I tried, just didn’t “do it”for me. I just came to terms that I’m not a MM fan. So I figured the US MM couldn’t be that much better, so didn’t bother worrying how much they are…and DAMN! they are pricey. …but, the way we as humans are wired…you find what you really need/want/ connect with in a special way, is there, waiting for you to stop looking for what isn’t there, and to see what is! I normally prefer maple fretboards and passive circuitry, but WHAM!!!! Rosewood and active!!!
Anyway, I don’t know if you still read older posts, but…Cheers, Lobster Will! I finally get it..at least, I finally found one I like. I don’t know if it’s even considered “decent, in comparison” but it’s a 2003 Music Man SUB and it plays real nice. I don’t think you have done a video on one (that is, I don’t remember if you did) but I’m curious, what your thoughts on them are? Cheers
Congrats!
Which compressor are you using?
I never understood if this lobster guy like stingrays or not.
1. I was somewhat expecting you to play with that lobster hand on and was slightly disappointed.
2. Darn, I need to practice a lot to not even come close to your playing.
3. Apart from sound, what are the differences in playability (except for the fretless of course)? Do they all play equally smooth?
heheh great question! I felt that the Ray34 and '17 Ray were very close in feel, though the Sterling had a bit of a rougher neck finish (can be fixed with some 0000 steel wool). The "Classic" rays like the Smoothie, Stingray Classic, Sabre classic, etc. with the thick gloss on the neck has one sort of feel, where the satin finished modern necks are very different. I've actually been on a huge SR Classic kick, and my ray and sabre classic have been my favorites as of late (vids coming on them soon). Overall, they're all in the same ballpark of playability. They're comfortable, well built instruments and they've been able to maintain those aspects across the entire lineup. The lower end models use cheaper materials (basswood in the SUBs, cheap electronics in the SUB, no compensated nut on the sterlings, no headstock gloss, etc.), but they're able to offer up a wide range of instruments at different price points that all still feel familiar.
Nice comparison Lobster! Can't go wrong with any of those basses. I like the fretless since I never played one and it looks and sounds very good.
Thanks Don!
This video is awesome. I've been window shopping and sitting down at some music stores during the year and that ray 34 is the coolest that they have had in-store to play. As far as budget, that is probably the one I'm going to go with.
That fretless is soooo gnarly tho. Really dig the old smoothie too. Is it possible to mod that ray 34 with the newer electronics?
Thanks Mike! You could, however sourcing the pickup and preamp would be $$, and you'd need to mod the body for a second battery box as the new preamp is 18v.
Hi there lobster. I'm trying to find an EMG pickups for my stingray without any luck. My next option is a Delano. Can you please give me some info? Thanks brother.
Check out my Ultimate Stingray Mod Guide playlist for pickup options.
What strings are you using? I have USA SR 5HH and had other USA SRs. I also have a Sterling Sub 5 and an HH one as well. They are very good inexpensive basses even stock. Enjoyed your video!
Thank you David! I'm using MJC Ironworks Nickel Plated Stainless Steel strings, gauges 45-105 (125 for low B)
The gold 1 some way speaks to me espiacly this 1
Thanks Ram! That is a special bass :)
@@LowEndLobster 1of the best i had was a maison serius active chip but real good for slap .more brutal better for me the guy i mention before works more than 4 alboms with yamaha active fretless and hevis not a metronom a real live 1 tracktors reavenge .keep on creating good stuff
Lol. I have the 5 string OLP that he rips on at the beginning. I'm in desperate need of an upgrade, but I can't decide! Budget is $500 and I need 5 strings. Playing indie pop type music mostly. What should I doooo?
If you dig the stingray style, the Sterlings are a really nice budget option (and the higher end ones can be had for a great price lightly used). If you want something more traditional but still active- the Talman TMB505, Sire V3 5-string are great options too.
That 2020 MM was a jem, in this case you get what you pay for. I liked the SUB best till you picked up that beauty.
Thanks John! I actually just shot a few videos on the 2020 BFR that will be coming out soon :)
Well I was going to replace my SUB 5 with a Ray35 but I think the Mint-O-Ray sounds better. Time to get modding.
Thanks Martin! The SUBs get underestimated but they're such great mod platforms. We'll definitely be doing a 5 stringer mod, as there's a lot more things to consider on the 5 vs the 4. The 4 stringer uses a lot more 'standard sized' parts, and the string spacing and pickup shape doesn't vary too much between variants of SBMM and USA EBMM. The 5'er is all over the place in both string spacing and pickup shape which I think we should address with mods. The stock SUB5 has 16.5mm spacing where the Ray35 and USA models have 17.5mm. Quality 5 string replacement bridges of this spacing aren't that readily available (I need to do some digging).
I prefer the first bass .Sunburst with black pickguard and 2 band eq !! best sound !!
Thanks Raffaele! :)
40th Anniversary Old Smoothie was easily my favorite. Like a more open, sweet version of the others.
And now I'm considering replacing my broken fretless with an MM style....
Thank you! Do it! You won't be disappointed
I would love to see you compare your P-basses!
Thanks Lex, that's a GREAT idea and I honestly didn't even think of that. I can call it the P-ing contest :P
Do you like Stingrays? :-)
The $300.00 Sterling. I had one just like that! It's the one bass I had the most fun playing too.
Thanks Tiger!
LobsterTone(tm). The fretless has a nice tone. Quit slapping her. 3.02k subscribers! Woo hoo!
Haha thanks John! I had to hesitate a lil ;P
This is a 3 star vid at best. That 3 star is modded with Dark glass preamp and painted weirdly. Makes it all kinda pointless. Must do better...
Ham. I like ham.
Hey Lobster, out of curiosity, what flats do you use? I've strung my 'Ray with D'Addario Flats for the longest time and have been pretty happy with them. Not sure if I should move around or not.
I use LaBella deep talkin flats 45-105
I have a chance to buy the BFR pink champagne stingray.......you are tempting me lol, the only problem I have is that I would have to play it, not put it away as a collectible!! Thanks for the comparison video....and I loved the sterling with the dark glass preamp!!
Playing is part of caring! Enjoy the instrument as it's intended to be enjoyed :)
@@LowEndLobster Absolutely!!
I’ve never seen someone slap a fretless and have it sound that good!
Thanks Cleebo :)
LowEndLobster anytime! Also about the fretless are there any fretless stingrays out there with lines where the frets would be? Because I wanna start playing fretless bass and I love the sound of that fretless stingray but I wanna start with a Fretless with lines on the neck as well?
@@cleebo1322 That's a tough one. Most of the Stingray fretlesses are unlined, but you could snag a Ray24CA and have it defretted (or try it yourself!).
LowEndLobster That’s a good idea, and thank you for the info! Love your vids man!