@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 if the source is 100% authentic, we hear and we obey but nowdays some preacher just uses any type of hadist even if it's da'if we as muslim have to use our reason & heart, and verify and double check whatever other said this Islam as religion... we can't even talk behind someone, we can't even harm animal like cat now imagine if you cause harm to a believer (man or woman)... what kind punishment will await us, if we not carefully verify & double check what we learn
@@litfiana5417I appreciate what you said and mostly agree with you. Abdullah ibn Umar RA looked at the Ka'ba once and said "how great is your sanctity in the eyes of Allah SWT yet a Muslim's blood is even greater " No daif Hadiths can be used to be the sole support for a law. The problem with shabir and commentators here is they want to reject Hadith based on whim. Shabir's standard of "would the prophet Muhammad pbuh have said this" is too vague and subjective. Two Muslims can have different opinions on the same Hadith and the truth is lost. This is clearly not a useful method. The standard method of Islamic scholars are superior to shabir's standard. They're objective and impartial. They don't allow for personal agendas to cherry pick Hadiths.
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411it’s literally not that easy. It is on those that know more to educate people. It’s literally required of them with Islamic knowledge - you can’t keep this info to yourself. Not all people are robots that hear “simon says jump” and you jump
@@Amila-ym7ny The method of distinguishing between a Sahih and Daif Hadith is one of the most written about and studied topics in Islamic studies. If you haven't heard about this then it's only your fault. It's not a hidden or secret knowledge it's one of the fundamental subjects of studying Islam. We heard and we obeyed is what believers said when they heard revelation. I'm not a robot is not the answer of believers.
Thankyou Dr Shabir & Dr Saffiyah. I felt certain level of discomfort about some narrations of the hadith about women. Alhamdulillah it's just being explained by Dr Shabir
Hadiths are secondary documents, primary source is quran, so any Hadith contradictory to quran is a false one and any Hadith supplementary or complementary to quran is a sahih or acceptable one, may Allah guide us to true knowledge.
@@Gandaogo actually I mean, hadith,serah of the prophet, history help us understand the Quran, in this sense, Hadith is complementary or supplementary, but it must not be beyond the Quran.
@@Royalbangla52 No. If it's history, fine, let it remain history but not the Case where it is also imposing religious laws and obligations on believers. A history of a nation does NOT in anyway impose laws alongside the constitution of that nation. Allah is sufficient!
I am glad , a man like him has to be popular not those arrogant non intellectual scholars. I really love it these things were pushing me away from islam
I read a book by the Madani Channel Dawat E islami people (Barelvi) and it listed examples which raised my eyebrows and reminded me of hadith. It gave an example of doing good deeds and then stated you get the amount of good deeds as a crow flying in its lifetime. Underneath it cited this as being 500 years. Alarm bells rang and a quick Google showed they rarely live beyond 20-30 yrs. Another one gave an example of a fire worshipper who had a son and he would tell his son to be mindful not to eat in front of Muslims in Ramadan and so this fire worshipper was given paradise when he died. So the highest sin which is associating with God (worshipping fire) is still a guarantee of heaven just for passing a comment to a son to not eat in front of Muslims?! The mind boggles with all these stories and yet countless people believe them. It also had examples of people seeing the prophet and yet basic common sense tells you how would you know it was him? I can't believe these people are sincere and yet they trade barbs on other sects it's beyond parody
@@8647-ux6yx I don't believe that hadith, but that's literally how people talk. have you never heard someone say something like "the grocery store is 10 minutes from here". People have used time to describe distance for millennia.
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 you wouldn't either with that kind of comment. A fable is defined as a short story meaning it can be fiction so you don't even give justice to the writers if these real "events" which you now term "fables" but at the same time you then also make up another label calling these people mystics in contradiction to the fable aspect to give them some kind of higher authority albeit in some kind of supernatural capacity ("mystics") and you're wrong again because they are no such thing. The example was written by some random Madani book author presumably about experiences of other Madani members almost as if selling their membership, i.e. you, the reader will also witness such miracles or receive good deeds if you join us. Also you're wrong on the other point which you claim is in relation to the words of the prophet. They are alleged words, nothing more because they are from 3rd hand sources however much you may claim authenticity about "chains". Human make mistakes, they lie they cheat and have agendas. If we were to believe people like you then the hundreds of thousands of so called hadiths would be so accurate as if they were observed, compiled, then recorded and verified by human minds akin to supercomputers. Common sense tells you that is impossible especially if many hadith were discarded and even what we have is a small fraction from those that were deemed unreliable. Another reason you won't understand is your way of thinking. You say why compare the tales of mystics to the words of the prophet and yet miss the point entirely about the pattern of fiction present on both sides and where is started. It's people like you who question and will still insist crows can live 500 years just as there are hadiths which make no sense and equally you believe them. It's like building houses of sand on houses built of sand already, it gives the green light to jokers to write thousands of random books, not one in agreement with another make up what they want for followership. Where does it end? There's plenty of words I can think of to describe someone who claims crows live for 500 yrs but a mystic would be the last thing I would call them.
Hello! I tried googling what you were talking about because I was curious. For the hadith about the crow, all I could find similar to what you were saying was this "He reported God’s messenger as saying, 'If anyone out of a desire to please God fasts for a day, God will remove him from jahannam as far as a crow flies from the time it is a young bird till it dies of old age.” (Mishkat al-Masabih 2074, 2075). As you can see, it doesn't specify a period of time. This is the only hadith I found mentioning this and it doesn't come from sahih Bukhari or sahih Muslim. Now as for the fire worshipper, that wasn't a hadith. It comes from a work called Nozhat al-Majales which is a collection of works from persian poets. A lot of people confuse hadiths and end up not saying it properly so it's best to do research before accepting what someone says.
@@Gandaogo Al-lawh Al-Mahfuuz is the book of record. Where everything is written. The past, future and present of everything. Hence why nothing's left out of that book. It's not the Qur'an.
With all due respect to Shabir and his daughter. I can't understand how despite the fact that so called sahih hadiths contain many narrations that either contradict, add or subtract from the Quran, or insult the prophet Muhammad, you still believe that hadiths have religious authority over Muslims. This is like deciding to eat a steak that is from the trash that is among flies and maggots. The fact of the matter is that the hadiths were not revealed by God.
Yes such as the hadith talking about the prophet having the strength of ten men in bed and going between all the wives. Who was watching and why would it be relevant? I say they are insults just like the age of Aysha and countless others. Another one talking about God in anthromorphological terms and moving from different parts of heaven as if God is displaced from one area when moving to another and yet Qur'an itself says God is like nothing in creation and no one has seen him not even Moses. The hadiths were written to confuse just like the NT Bible. Tip of the iceberg.
*Names and last names, birth and death years, credibility as witnesses of all the people who transmitted it from Sahaba RA or The Prophet SAWS to the muhaddith.* *Since the muhaddith were usually born centuries after the Last Sahaba RA and add several decades more to the time when hadith has been written.* *Also, where's the original Al Bukhari book, The One From Year 846 AD, which exact page number and all.* *Did El Bukhari even wrote it or it was ascribed to him later down the centuries?* *None of these ahadith have such thing so far.* *Why Authenticity on Beard and other Hadith was* *Agreed by El Bukhari and Co but is not based on facts and evidence?* *On who's Authority it was proclaimed to be Authentic?* *And if those are words invented by Man, why we are following it blindly?*
Ultimately treat parents, spouses, and children with kindness and the rest will sort itself out. Even if valid why would a believer impose these hadith literally?
The comments show clearly how weak our understanding as Muslims is about our Deen . Read read and read and then start writing comments and try to undo the work of great and true scholars who have done real work Instead of blabbering on TH-cam comments
Why don't you simply say that the second hadith, the majority of hadith scholars said that it is weak, is this difficult, or are you fishing in troubled waters?
Prophet Muhammad pbuh said " who ever disobeys me has refused to enter Jannah." It's really your choice to follow the messenger of Allah SWT or refuse to enter Jannah.
Firstly, JazakAllah for your efforts sir. It's a blessing to find such a person in this era where the majority of men scholars are just devaluing women. Great respect for you.. 👏 ❤️ Sir as you've said "And we have to remember that the Quran was revealed at a time when patriarchy was in vogue" can you clarify more? Does it mean that according to that patriarchy atmosphere some people misquoted Quranic verses or does it mean something else? I would be grateful if you can answer.😊
You need to basic intellect to have balanced approach to deal with such criticality obviously your main source is Quran if polarity of hadith is huge then yes it might not be authentic. Quran us complete guidance for a believer
Seeing how many problematic hadith have been termed "Sahih" and included in the 6 books, how can one take the books as authority and as witnesses to sayings/narrations? Especially, If we apply the criteria of "sahih-ness" (as per hadith methodology) to the books themselves, would the books still be considered reliable if they contain narrations that are contradictory to either Quran or Intellect or sometimes even the book itself?
I expected Dr. Shabir to test the Hadith on tough criteria to sort out week or Daeef or Modoh one from Saheh. Just giving one's opinion may sound logical but still a subjective approach. I think it opens a Pandora for non Muslims to challenge any Hadith and say its not logical or doesn't fit their ethical or moral standards. Hadith knowledge and its scientific approach is well established fact. My dear Doctor Shabir should have relied on that.
There is no scientific approach to Hadith. It is a misnomer. There is no way to scientifically test the way, for instance, you perform tests or evaluations of other scientific subjects. We seem similar misuse in economics, refering to it as "social sciences". The Hadith are perhaps open to litterary criticism and historic criticism and so on. But there is no "scientific approach" because the source material is not verifiable. None of the statements attributed to Mohammed can be with any scientific certainty confirmed that they are his. It because a circular argument instead. A source is claimed to be trusted and hence whatever he or she said, is considered confirmed words of Mohammed. Hence why the attribution and the person at the center of the attribution becomes so important. Because there is nothing else to rest the Hadith on (even the content of it is not enough). So instead a more apt term would be a litterary analysis or a more clear explanation: comprehensive comparitive analysis of source material that has non-textual and entirely oral origins that lack original source material to which it can be controlled or examined.
When a Hadith sounds so ridiculous and out of this world and doesn’t align with the Quran, the. It’s straight up wrong. Doesn’t matter who narrated it. Sounds like you’re a red pill consumer and benefit from false Hadiths so of course you would want the Hadith to be true.
Again, for average Muslims, I think they should start with knowledge of the five pillars, then study the characteristics of the Prophet (saw), known as the Shamaa'il al-Muhammadiyya. Because by the time that the Prophet was chosen for his mission, it was because Allah (swt) saw the goodness and uprightness in his heart. It's the reason why Aisha (ra) called him, "the walking Qur'an". This is the lense through which the average person should conduct their lives. Hadiths are not to be thrown out altogether, bc it's a never-ending game. We will end up with nothing. If a hadith appears problematic, it's best to say "that's interesting... but I know that the Prophet was kind and compassionate and nurturing and fought for women".
> Hadiths are not to be thrown out altogether, bc it's a never-ending game. We will end up with nothing So you will accept problematic hadiths just to avoid having "nothing"? Is the Quran that insufficient of a guide?
@@blumachine - The problem are not the hadith corpus per se. Because people with the same impetus of throwing out any material they find problematic can be carried into the Qur'an. There are plenty of criticisms that people levy against some "problematic" statements in the Qur'an. (e.g., the verse where it appears that God sanctions men hitting their spouses in Surat al-Nisaa'). But the overwhelming majority of Muslims would never think to just toss or ignore "problematic" verses. They instead opt to contextualize it and frame it in the bigger picture of what the Qur'an's overall message is. The same should be done with the hadith: we need to contextualize, critique and apply the general maqasid of the shari'ah to these hadiths. Hadiths in themselves are not the end-all be-all of ethical and legal questions. They each have to go through a whole process of evaluation against legal principles, etc. This is not stuff that the average person should be doing anyway. Again, the average Muslim should focus on being kind, compassionate, just, merciful, etc. Do their 5 pillars and apply the ethos of the Prophet Muhammad's (saw) characteristics. The Prophet never hit women, shouted at them, treated them unjustly, etc. So that's what we should be following. Because that's the sunnah, or the habit of the prophet. Even if there are individual hadiths that seem to contradict the general sunnah of the Prophet. They are outliers.
@@8647-ux6yx - Honestly, I can tell from the way you're arguing simplistically that you don't have any formal training in these matters. Once again, I encourage all lay Muslims to stick to the basics of what they will be held accountable for spiritually. There's no point arguing about these matters, as if it's being discussed with any kind of sublety.
No because there is the Quran. Hadiths came 200 years after the prophets pbuh” death. Even he himself said not to write down anything else but the Quran. It’s why you have quranists. But since Hadiths can be sourced back to the original sayer there’s no doubt some of them are actually what the person said. The problem becomes that not every one of them encompasses your morals.
Yes, in Quran mentioned be good to parents. In Quran also mentioned wali can't prevent the daughter to get back into marriage. My point is if parent is really to be obeyed more than her choice of spouse then that has breach this law. In Surah An Nisa:34 clearly mention that righteous women is devoutly obedient to her husband. This verse also imply that the husband is to be obeyed (so long it's not haram). With due respect to Dr Shabir, this is his opinion and it is not the strongest argument on this particular matter. The muktabar scholars still strong in the argument. In terms of hadith, the chain is not the same level of the Quran but still strong due to the science of hadith and the perspective is actually aligned with Quran. Allah knows best.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 a woman sacrifices her body and her peace when having kids so what’s your point? You can’t make up things and say it’s from the Quran. People can read you know.
@@tranfang365 I'm fully aware of that, but the man is the one who protects, provides & Cares for the woman and is expected to give up his own life, people specifically In the West have forgotten the mans role and act as if men did nothing throughout History but be bullies.
@@tranfang365 So do men, they go to protect women and help them, people seem to forget men have responsibilities and duties & can't just do whatever They want.
Dr. Saffiyah why is it so difficult to simply label a Hadith as false even it somehow found it way into the 6 major books. Perhaps you should add a recap of how the ancestral Hadith writers selected what to add or what to keave especially Bukhari
Allah created a woman to menstruate so how can it be unclean? We all have blood, men and women! What if one has a disease that the person frequently has bleeding cysts on their body?
Assalamu Aleykum, Thank you for the answer! The discussion about hadiths being authentic is quite interesting and difficult. I recalled another hadith: "the best of you are those who are the best to their wives". And this statement is quite strong. But if we follow the same logic we used for the hadiths mentioned in the video - the Quran talks about parents being the most important to a person, do we have to call this hadith problematic as well?
I think the most important question is what's the grade of the hadiths you mentioned? Let's hear what the ahadith scholars have to say about those ahadiths and take it from there inshaa Allaah
@@Coco_Moco01 Sahih just means that the chain of narrators is commonly accepted and that they are of sound mind and honest. It doesn’t take into account the context of the narration. So if a mistake were to occur within the chain, and it was carried forth, then it’s incumbent for people to use their intellect and determine if it makes sense. For an extreme example, imagine if a Hadith said that the prophet pbuh said that the moon was made of cheese. And everyone just went along with it and accepted it. All throughout the chain of narration they repeated the same thing. This would constitute a Sahih Hadith. Then it turns out that it’s obviously not. So now you have a situation where one thing has to be true: did the prophet actually say this? Impossible. Did he lie? Impossible. Was it ever made of cheese? Impossible. Then it was obviously either fabricated by someone early on, or misheard and misquoted. The context (main criticism) is extremely important in determining what’s more likely to be true. And of course if any Hadith shows any signs that it goes against the Quran, then it’s automatically false.
The problem with the excuse is that the Quran and Mohammed is a guide and example for all mankind from generation to generation. There's no way to obfuscate it.
I’ve never heard such a refreshing and realistic take on the hadiths before and the challenges women of the ummah face. Thank you for being humble in your research!
@@thiest-pn4xq ....لقد كانت هذه عادات العالم وقتها ، المرأه تتزوج بعد البلوغ، و لو كان هذا غريبا على عادات العرب وقتها لكان مشركى قريش أول من انتقد رسول الله ، صلى الله عليه وسلم ، و ما اسلم معه احد، شئ من المنطق ، حتى لو كنت تكره الإسلام
The Hadiths make Islam terrible. Tho I’m not Muslim , the Quran isn’t a terrible book but the Hadiths have such odd and terrible stories in them that are part of Muslim theology. It corrupts the religion.
Both have balanced rights!! And 65:4 doesn't say man have a degree over woman it says men have a degree ( of responsibility) over them! THEM means on divorced women!! Read it completely, just dont take one line from verse . In order to understand a verse you have to read the whole chapter. Read quran carefully kid. May Allah guide you
@@alayaslifestyle Ofc, Quran 65 is the talak surah. Now, Quran 65:4 is about child divorce before menstration. According to this ays, at what age, girls can marry? Muhammad, when he was 54, married Aisha. Aisha was 6 years old. If you have a sister adn she is 6 years old. Is it OK for you to marry a man who is 50 years old?
@@fishersofmen0419 No, it says in the quran they have to reach maturity. Muslim men are not the same as the prophet. I don’t see whats so hard to understand here
See islamqa about this hadith- it was ‘Classed as saheeh by al-Haakim, and adh-Dhahabi agreed with him. Also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.’ Yes you must respect your husbands women it is an act of devotion to Allah. Please get over it feminists.
Funny 😄 how he says to " make matters even worse" there's two bad Hadith Ughh 😔 just when im getting pulled in that pushed me back 😞Islam is peaceful the extremism or misinterpretation of the religion and the quaran for non muslims is too bad
I believe there is an ayat the say wives have equal rights over the husband Husbands have A degree over wives because they provide for them. If a husband not providing no degree over wives
My own humble opinion that we must be careful about hadits because hadits is jumble between right and false. In a nutshel hadits is not protected by God. It extremely differ from the Qur'an.
Very unscholarly and insincere. No references to the ahadith, their chains, zero details. How can you comment on somethings authenticity without even critiquing its source
@@najmussaqib7542 He is actually a tiny minority in the west who have adopted Quranism. They reject the traditional and established Islamic positions from any school of thought. Very much influenced by western Liberalism
He completely disregards isnad in the entirety of the series about Hadith. In this video he claims that the Hadiths were created by some guy who was mad at his wife. 😂😂😂 Do you know how easy to prove that? If he studied a little bit of Hadith he would have known what Madar Al-Hadith concept is. He doesn't do any leg work just speculates and pretends it's facts. Someone said the channel should be named let Shabir speak 😂😂😂
WHAT IF MOHAMMED SAID IT??? If the saying is good, GREAT that came from Mohammed. If its an awful saying NO that didn't come from MOHAMMED. Cherrypicking! That's all islam is about...you do that with the bible and you doing that with your own so called authentic hadiths too. I'm sorry for you but it seems without that Islam falls. You guys should step up cos that isn't making your islam religion look so good
Even had it been 💯 authenticated. What's your objection to a prophet of God saying such a thing? Assuming you're Chrisitan. There're so many X-rated passages in the Bible was recently removed from primary schools in Utah, USA due to "Vulgarity and violence". So, by your own standard this is tame compared to the explicit verses in the Bible.
I think a more professional approach to learning Islam (unlike what these 2 are doing) is to gather ALL the chains (versions) of a Hadeeth in question then analyze what the Hadeeth scholars have said about authenticity and discuss only authentic Hadeeth. Instead of creating confusion among people. If you open the door to picking and choosing scripture based on your desires then you might as well use any book as your source of guidance since the guidance is actually coming from your desires instead of Evidences. If you dont like pus then dont disrespect your husband. If you dont like pus then avoid going to hell. Awaiting them is Hell, and they will be left to drink oozing pus, which they will sip with difficulty, and can hardly swallow. Death will overwhelm them from every side, yet they will not ˹be able to˺ die. Awaiting them still is harsher torment. 14:16-17
Just because a hadith doesn’t sit well with new age feminists doesn’t make it weak shabir. There is a system the scholars developed to classify them and the Hadith about women respecting their husbands being tied with their deeds and ability to enter jannah are NUMEROUS. This Hadith you mentioned about prostration to husbands was classified as sahih or Hasan by many scholars.
Many other scholars classified the hadith mentioned as weak. It is a legitimate concern for anyone interested in seeking the truth when there is dispute over religious matters by the scholars themselves.
Brothers and sisters, the Qur'an is sufficient and following hadiths is impermissible. Allah has warned us about this. "And of men is he who takes instead frivolous *hadith* to lead astray from Allah's path without knowledge, and to take it for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement." 31:6 Read the following ayahs: And in anything over which you disagree - *its ruling is [to be referred] to Allah.* [Say], "That is Allah , my Lord; upon Him I have relied, and to Him I turn back." 42:10 "One day We shall raise from all Peoples a witness against them, from amongst themselves: and We shall bring thee as a witness against these (thy people): and We have sent down to thee the *Book explaining all things* , a Guide, a Mercy, and Glad Tidings to Muslims." 16:89 "O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah *a light and a clear Book* ." 5:15 "Alif, Lam, Ra. These are the verses of the *Book and a clear Qur'an* ." 15:1 "Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath *revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained* ? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers." 6:114 " *A Book whose verses have been detailed* , an Arabic Qur'an for a people who know," 41:3 " *Thus do We explain the signs in detail* ; and perchance they may turn (unto Us)." 7:174 "And when We read it, follow thou the reading;" 75:18 "Nay more, *it is for Us to explain it (and make it clear)* : 75:19 "For We had certainly sent unto them a Book, based on knowledge, *which We explained in detail* ,- a guide and a mercy to all who believe." 7:52 "And they do not come to you with an argument except that *We bring you the truth and the best explanation* ." 25:33 " *Allah has sent down the best hadith* : a consistent Book wherein is reiteration. The skins shiver therefrom of those who fear their Lord; then their skins and their hearts relax at the remembrance of Allah. That is the guidance of Allah by which He guides whom He wills. And one whom Allah leaves astray - for him there is no guide." 39:23 "These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. *Then in what hadith after Allah and His verses will they believe?* " 45:6 "Then in what *hadith* after the Qur'an will they believe?" 77:50 So obey Allah, and obey His Messenger: but if ye turn back, *the duty of Our Messenger is but to proclaim (the Message) clearly and openly* . 64:12 "Say, "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger; but if you turn away - then upon him is only that [duty] with which he has been charged, and upon you is that with which you have been charged. And if you obey him, you will be [rightly] guided. *And there is not upon the Messenger except the [responsibility for] clear notification* ." 24:54 *The most merciful* 55:1 "It is *He* Who has taught the Qur'an." 55:2 " *The guiding of them is not thy duty* (O Muhammad), but Allah guideth whom He will. And whatsoever good thing ye spend, it is for yourselves, when ye spend not save in search of Allah's Countenance; and whatsoever good thing ye spend, it will be repaid to you in full, and ye will not be wronged." 2:272 "And We have certainly diversified in this Qur'an for the people from *every [kind of] example* ; *but man has ever been, most of anything, [prone to] dispute.* " 18:54 "Say, " Allah is most knowing of how long they remained. He has [knowledge of] the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and the earth. How Seeing is He and how Hearing! They have not besides Him any protector, and *He shares not His legislation with anyone.* "" 18:26 “You worship not besides Him except [mere] names you have named them, you and your fathers, for which Allah has sent down no authority. *Legislation is not but for Allah.* He has commanded that you worship not except Him. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.” 18:40
Muslims criticise the Bible NT and rightly so but appear to have a blind spot when admitting hadith are basically the same, i.e. hearsay but somehow elevate them to higher standards. The weird thing is God never sanctioned any of these extra books and Qur'an itself even goes so far as to condemn other "hadiths" and even the hadiths have hadiths which condemn their writings!?
@@rebacathek-popfan7950helpful but also extremely detrimental to a person’s iman. Many reverts show how the Quran saved them but then they read hadiths and second guess their decision to become Muslim. Ive learned to accept what i understand logically and push aside what i just dont and ask allah to help me understand one day. Islam has helped me a lot so i wont leave the religion but im not going to blindly sit here and say i understand everything and everything makes sense and im happy w everything bc that’d be a huge lie.
Muslims can critique Hadiths but the Quran is unanimously agreed upon as being supreme. The bible for Christians is like the Quran for Muslims, so the Bible should not have contradictions.
Can anyone here explain the verse 4:34 Quran - which gives right to men to strike/beat their wives? Asking genuinely - what is your interpretation of 4:34 ?
'Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-'As reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Verily, Allah does not take away knowledge by snatching it from the people but He takes away knowledge by taking away the scholars, so that when He leaves no learned person, people turn to the ignorant as their leaders; then they are asked to deliver religious verdicts and they deliver them without knowledge, they go astray, and lead others astray. Sahih Muslim 2673 a
You 2 are making ignorant people doubt and detest Hadeeth. Please be professional and if you want to discuss a topic STOP giving your Opinions and i stead give Evidences. Show each Hadeeth and chains on screen with comment of each Muhadith. If your too busy to edit vidros properly then outsource the editing to somewhere.
there is no such thing as a weak ayah. Every ayah is from God. Whichevre muslim believes that an ayat in the Quran is false or not from Allah, will automatically become a disbeliever and outright kafir (infidel).
@@IslamChannelUSA Also, ive seen u before and idk whos teaching you the deem but u need to avoid the whole "Quran only" belief. Thats heretical. You need to also believe in Sunnah (extracted from hadiths)
I request you to take time to phrase the titles of your clips in a way that is gentle and pleasing. As a scholar said, "Our religion is devine but our history is human", difference of opinion is unavoidable and may be necessary to arrive at an amicable settlement but let's not be part of creating a division.
No, the title is indeed phrased very correctly. And the video should have made that clear, since there are hadith’s that aren’t sahih, and there’s nothing wrong with making that clear. If anything videos like these help us muslims all stay on the right path.
The hadith cannot be trusted on the most elementary truths. If it were from God it would not contain so many contradictions. But this means that everything you think you know about Muhammad is a lie.
Prophet Muhammad pbuh was inspired by Allah SWT. Do you think Allah SWT only gave him the Qur'an and never revealed to him anything else or guided him?
Dr shabir, why are yoy silent about the burning of christian church in Pakistan? In remember you talking about Quran burning in the west, what about christian house of prayers burned lately?? Is there any reason you are silent about it?? Your silence indicates you approbation and contentment.. Should christian burn 5 mosque is kufar's lands?
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 so you are saying we should burn your mosque as response? List all the crime we committed in the name of our God is your are truthful
The titles of these video is soo ugly and should hurt the heart of anyone who loves Rasulullah SAW If you want to debunk fabricated Hadith, then name the videos accordingly. Hadith and Problematic can never be in the same title
slowly you are becoming a Quranist.. and after few years you will become an ex muslim . "Masha demon on throne above seven skies who can be seen on day of resurrection"
Fear Allah, Shabir. You're basically telling people to deny and reject the hadiths they don't like, this is a major deviance. Delete this fitnah and do not speak in issues outside of your scope of knowledge and specialty.
Can you do a video about hoor al ain. It hurts me so bad that men are going to sleep with other women in heaven. That is not something a woman would look forward to.
I think we're confusing ourselves here, yes we're equal as human beings but have different responsibilities in either a family setup or community setup and so on. Because the Hadith makes emphasis on respecting a husband (man) in a family setup doesn't make it a false one, we have a Hadith which emphasis on respecting the mother more than the father which doesn't make it a contradictory Hadith and we all know which gender a mother is. I respect your opinion Dr. Shabbir but sometimes your opinions appear contradictory to your beliefs as a Muslim which can lead many Muslims in the western world astray. Last time you talked hijab being an innovation and yet your daughter is well covered as a Muslim woman. I really don't understand you sometimes
Why do women cover their hair? Did Allah make a mistake in giving them hair. Very puzzled? Help. Many religious books? Are those all FALSE. Is Quran the only correct one. No insult intended. Just cuprous.
Thanks. Just curious. In Iran they put they put them in jail. Taliban are more strict. PM of Pakistan married 6 times. I think (Personally) there is better luck if you give her flowers. No offence intended. Just my experience Married for 65 years. @@heregoes8839
All Muslim brothers and sister….question yourself is my Quran absolute truth and how did this book came about? Is my Muhammad really telling our Muslim people the truth? How did your leader Muhammed knew about Abraham, Moses, Ismael, etc and he put these names in your Quran Book? These names were found originally from Christian’s Bible way before Quran. Your leader shut the New Testament (NT) to all your people. There’s is a resurrection that happened if you read them all chapters esp…start with John & Luke. I encourage you to research bc I did my research too….Jesus said He is the only way to eternal life when we confess with our mouth and believe that He rose from the dead. John 3:16/14:6…❤️🙏RESEARCH and don’t keep saying you did….READ🙏🙏🙏
I have a question for you: why should I trust the New Testament? It has many geographical mistakes, added passages that were not there, the original manuscripts do not exist. How can a document with mistranslations from the Hebrew be a book of G?
You first read if the Bible is truly (as it is now) the word of your and our creator. If you are really honest, sincere, knowledgeable, straight forward and truthful, after reading countless reports published by jewsish and christian scholars, you will realise that Bible should probably the most modified, edited with all sorts of insertion, deletion, addition and subtraction. Only God knows how much of it is from God and Jesus. So YOU READ FIRST what you are reading. Read about the Bible first before you start reading the Bible.
In your research you only read those who you wanted to say what you already believed. But read people who says contrary and raise plausible objections and questions. Even the most smart William lane Craig do not discuss on bible errors and mistakes. If Bible really changed by scribes then Bible could not be right historical document to examine whether resurrection happened or not because no one can change god's final words if nt is really a final testament of God. Only Quranic god claims to protect and guard the Qur'an.
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You dont know how much dr shabir ally has helped me to stay a muslim,alot of scholars dont deal with this and many muslim women doubting islam
So the solution for your doubts is even more doubts 🤦♂️
What happened to "We heard and we obeyed"?
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 if the source is 100% authentic, we hear and we obey
but nowdays some preacher just uses any type of hadist even if it's da'if
we as muslim have to use our reason & heart, and verify and double check whatever other said
this Islam as religion... we can't even talk behind someone, we can't even harm animal like cat
now imagine if you cause harm to a believer (man or woman)... what kind punishment will await us, if we not carefully verify & double check what we learn
@@litfiana5417I appreciate what you said and mostly agree with you. Abdullah ibn Umar RA looked at the Ka'ba once and said "how great is your sanctity in the eyes of Allah SWT yet a Muslim's blood is even greater "
No daif Hadiths can be used to be the sole support for a law. The problem with shabir and commentators here is they want to reject Hadith based on whim. Shabir's standard of "would the prophet Muhammad pbuh have said this" is too vague and subjective. Two Muslims can have different opinions on the same Hadith and the truth is lost. This is clearly not a useful method. The standard method of Islamic scholars are superior to shabir's standard. They're objective and impartial. They don't allow for personal agendas to cherry pick Hadiths.
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411it’s literally not that easy. It is on those that know more to educate people. It’s literally required of them with Islamic knowledge - you can’t keep this info to yourself. Not all people are robots that hear “simon says jump” and you jump
@@Amila-ym7ny The method of distinguishing between a Sahih and Daif Hadith is one of the most written about and studied topics in Islamic studies. If you haven't heard about this then it's only your fault. It's not a hidden or secret knowledge it's one of the fundamental subjects of studying Islam.
We heard and we obeyed is what believers said when they heard revelation. I'm not a robot is not the answer of believers.
Thankyou Dr Shabir & Dr Saffiyah. I felt certain level of discomfort about some narrations of the hadith about women. Alhamdulillah it's just being explained by Dr Shabir
Hadiths are secondary documents, primary source is quran, so any Hadith contradictory to quran is a false one and any Hadith supplementary or complementary to quran is a sahih or acceptable one, may Allah guide us to true knowledge.
No hadith is against the quran.
@@karar302watch the full video
Allah said the Quran is complete and perfect so what complement does it need from the Hadith?
@@Gandaogo actually I mean, hadith,serah of the prophet, history help us understand the Quran, in this sense, Hadith is complementary or supplementary, but it must not be beyond the Quran.
@@Royalbangla52 No.
If it's history, fine, let it remain history but not the Case where it is also imposing religious laws and obligations on believers.
A history of a nation does NOT in anyway impose laws alongside the constitution of that nation.
Allah is sufficient!
I am glad , a man like him has to be popular not those arrogant non intellectual scholars. I really love it these things were pushing me away from islam
May Allah preserve you dr Shabir ,and your family❤
You guys are awesome, love this channel.
Imam Al-Shafi'i said, I can argue with a hundred scholars, but I cannot argue with an ignorant person.
Shabir Ally "I'm not convinced with what Shafi'i says 🤔"
So basically, anyone disagree with a scholar is ignorant?
@@kalijasinfacts
you just educate them kindly.
U are actually making a difference....👍
Asalam Alaikum from Germany. Thanks for this insight in one of this worry some topic.
Great video 👏
I read a book by the Madani Channel Dawat E islami people (Barelvi) and it listed examples which raised my eyebrows and reminded me of hadith. It gave an example of doing good deeds and then stated you get the amount of good deeds as a crow flying in its lifetime. Underneath it cited this as being 500 years. Alarm bells rang and a quick Google showed they rarely live beyond 20-30 yrs. Another one gave an example of a fire worshipper who had a son and he would tell his son to be mindful not to eat in front of Muslims in Ramadan and so this fire worshipper was given paradise when he died. So the highest sin which is associating with God (worshipping fire) is still a guarantee of heaven just for passing a comment to a son to not eat in front of Muslims?! The mind boggles with all these stories and yet countless people believe them. It also had examples of people seeing the prophet and yet basic common sense tells you how would you know it was him? I can't believe these people are sincere and yet they trade barbs on other sects it's beyond parody
Did they mean that crows live 500 years or that they fly a distance of 500 years. which might mean 500 years at human speed.
@@8647-ux6yx I don't believe that hadith, but that's literally how people talk. have you never heard someone say something like "the grocery store is 10 minutes from here". People have used time to describe distance for millennia.
I don't understand why you're comparing fables of mystics with the words of the Messenger of Allah SWT.
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 you wouldn't either with that kind of comment. A fable is defined as a short story meaning it can be fiction so you don't even give justice to the writers if these real "events" which you now term "fables" but at the same time you then also make up another label calling these people mystics in contradiction to the fable aspect to give them some kind of higher authority albeit in some kind of supernatural capacity ("mystics") and you're wrong again because they are no such thing. The example was written by some random Madani book author presumably about experiences of other Madani members almost as if selling their membership, i.e. you, the reader will also witness such miracles or receive good deeds if you join us. Also you're wrong on the other point which you claim is in relation to the words of the prophet. They are alleged words, nothing more because they are from 3rd hand sources however much you may claim authenticity about "chains". Human make mistakes, they lie they cheat and have agendas. If we were to believe people like you then the hundreds of thousands of so called hadiths would be so accurate as if they were observed, compiled, then recorded and verified by human minds akin to supercomputers. Common sense tells you that is impossible especially if many hadith were discarded and even what we have is a small fraction from those that were deemed unreliable.
Another reason you won't understand is your way of thinking. You say why compare the tales of mystics to the words of the prophet and yet miss the point entirely about the pattern of fiction present on both sides and where is started. It's people like you who question and will still insist crows can live 500 years just as there are hadiths which make no sense and equally you believe them. It's like building houses of sand on houses built of sand already, it gives the green light to jokers to write thousands of random books, not one in agreement with another make up what they want for followership. Where does it end?
There's plenty of words I can think of to describe someone who claims crows live for 500 yrs but a mystic would be the last thing I would call them.
Hello! I tried googling what you were talking about because I was curious. For the hadith about the crow, all I could find similar to what you were saying was this "He reported God’s messenger as saying, 'If anyone out of a desire to please God fasts for a day, God will remove him from jahannam as far as a crow flies from the time it is a young bird till it dies of old age.” (Mishkat al-Masabih 2074, 2075). As you can see, it doesn't specify a period of time. This is the only hadith I found mentioning this and it doesn't come from sahih Bukhari or sahih Muslim.
Now as for the fire worshipper, that wasn't a hadith. It comes from a work called Nozhat al-Majales which is a collection of works from persian poets.
A lot of people confuse hadiths and end up not saying it properly so it's best to do research before accepting what someone says.
Quran 6:38
Allah said nothing is left out of his book.
According to this verse no need for the Hadith
I commented on your other comment reply to that I am waiting
You're mistaken that verse isn't about the Qur'an it's Al-lawh Al-Mahfuuz.
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 what's that?
Have you really read the verse?
Mind you, I am writing in English so be clear with your jargons.
Fear Allah!
@@Gandaogo Al-lawh Al-Mahfuuz is the book of record. Where everything is written. The past, future and present of everything. Hence why nothing's left out of that book. It's not the Qur'an.
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 who writes the future?
It's only Allah who knows the future not even the prophet.
The verse says ' this book '
Check it out
May Allah bless this two
JazakAllah MashAllah well done very good episode
With all due respect to Shabir and his daughter. I can't understand how despite the fact that so called sahih hadiths contain many narrations that either contradict, add or subtract from the Quran, or insult the prophet Muhammad, you still believe that hadiths have religious authority over Muslims. This is like deciding to eat a steak that is from the trash that is among flies and maggots.
The fact of the matter is that the hadiths were not revealed by God.
Get off your drugs. Islam is about the Quran AND THE SUNNAH. And hadees always relates to what the prophet said and did. 🙄🙄
Yes such as the hadith talking about the prophet having the strength of ten men in bed and going between all the wives. Who was watching and why would it be relevant? I say they are insults just like the age of Aysha and countless others. Another one talking about God in anthromorphological terms and moving from different parts of heaven as if God is displaced from one area when moving to another and yet Qur'an itself says God is like nothing in creation and no one has seen him not even Moses. The hadiths were written to confuse just like the NT Bible. Tip of the iceberg.
@@razamughal9095you are high on hadith cocaine.
Muslims believe in the Gospel (Nee Testament) too.
The religious authority is Quran. The hadiths help us better understand and practice Islam.
Thank you dear.
Let the Shabir speak
1-Qur'an is the first source of legislation.
2- Sunnah (Hadith) is the second source of legislation.
so these hadiths are considered weak ? does someone have sources ?
*Names and last names, birth and death years, credibility as witnesses of all the people who transmitted it from Sahaba RA or The Prophet SAWS to the muhaddith.*
*Since the muhaddith were usually born centuries after the Last Sahaba RA and add several decades more to the time when hadith has been written.*
*Also, where's the original Al Bukhari book, The One From Year 846 AD, which exact page number and all.*
*Did El Bukhari even wrote it or it was ascribed to him later down the centuries?*
*None of these ahadith have such thing so far.*
*Why Authenticity on Beard and other Hadith was*
*Agreed by El Bukhari and Co but is not based on facts and evidence?*
*On who's Authority it was proclaimed to be Authentic?*
*And if those are words invented by Man, why we are following it blindly?*
His source is his feelings.
You're watching a shabir video asking for sources 🤣. He's an uncle who always giving fatwas, opinions and saying trust me.
what are you talking about?? the hadith about wife lick sore of husband was very weak hadith@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411found the wahabist
Ultimately treat parents, spouses, and children with kindness and the rest will sort itself out. Even if valid why would a believer impose these hadith literally?
The comments show clearly how weak our understanding as Muslims is about our Deen . Read read and read and then start writing comments and try to undo the work of great and true scholars who have done real work Instead of blabbering on TH-cam comments
So you don't like dr.shaber?
So some hadiths have tipped the balance and yet such a source is an authority in Islam ?
Why don't you simply say that the second hadith, the majority of hadith scholars said that it is weak, is this difficult, or are you fishing in troubled waters?
Beautiful. That's why hadiths should be discarded except those with in alliance of direct Qur'an verses.
Prophet Muhammad pbuh said " who ever disobeys me has refused to enter Jannah."
It's really your choice to follow the messenger of Allah SWT or refuse to enter Jannah.
The absurdity of your religion is loud, so you decide to cherry pick what you like and discard what you don't like.
How convenient.
Firstly, JazakAllah for your efforts sir. It's a blessing to find such a person in this era where the majority of men scholars are just devaluing women. Great respect for you.. 👏 ❤️ Sir as you've said "And we have to remember that the Quran was revealed at a time when patriarchy was in vogue" can you clarify more? Does it mean that according to that patriarchy atmosphere some people misquoted Quranic verses or does it mean something else? I would be grateful if you can answer.😊
You lost me when you started
Talking about patriarchy.
Hadiths which say things we currently don't like = forgeries. Hadiths which say things that we currently do like = genuine. Got it!
You need to basic intellect to have balanced approach to deal with such criticality obviously your main source is Quran if polarity of hadith is huge then yes it might not be authentic. Quran us complete guidance for a believer
Many hadiths are not compatible with Quranic principles
Seeing how many problematic hadith have been termed "Sahih" and included in the 6 books, how can one take the books as authority and as witnesses to sayings/narrations? Especially, If we apply the criteria of "sahih-ness" (as per hadith methodology) to the books themselves, would the books still be considered reliable if they contain narrations that are contradictory to either Quran or Intellect or sometimes even the book itself?
But why everyone keeps claiming that the schoolars agree that if it is sahih then it is without any single doubt true??
I expected Dr. Shabir to test the Hadith on tough criteria to sort out week or Daeef or Modoh one from Saheh. Just giving one's opinion may sound logical but still a subjective approach. I think it opens a Pandora for non Muslims to challenge any Hadith and say its not logical or doesn't fit their ethical or moral standards.
Hadith knowledge and its scientific approach is well established fact. My dear Doctor Shabir should have relied on that.
Facts I was thinking the same thing may Allah reward you for this comment Ameen As salamu alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakakitu
There is no scientific approach to Hadith. It is a misnomer. There is no way to scientifically test the way, for instance, you perform tests or evaluations of other scientific subjects. We seem similar misuse in economics, refering to it as "social sciences".
The Hadith are perhaps open to litterary criticism and historic criticism and so on. But there is no "scientific approach" because the source material is not verifiable. None of the statements attributed to Mohammed can be with any scientific certainty confirmed that they are his. It because a circular argument instead. A source is claimed to be trusted and hence whatever he or she said, is considered confirmed words of Mohammed. Hence why the attribution and the person at the center of the attribution becomes so important. Because there is nothing else to rest the Hadith on (even the content of it is not enough). So instead a more apt term would be a litterary analysis or a more clear explanation: comprehensive comparitive analysis of source material that has non-textual and entirely oral origins that lack original source material to which it can be controlled or examined.
When a Hadith sounds so ridiculous and out of this world and doesn’t align with the Quran, the. It’s straight up wrong. Doesn’t matter who narrated it. Sounds like you’re a red pill consumer and benefit from false Hadiths so of course you would want the Hadith to be true.
Again, for average Muslims, I think they should start with knowledge of the five pillars, then study the characteristics of the Prophet (saw), known as the Shamaa'il al-Muhammadiyya. Because by the time that the Prophet was chosen for his mission, it was because Allah (swt) saw the goodness and uprightness in his heart. It's the reason why Aisha (ra) called him, "the walking Qur'an". This is the lense through which the average person should conduct their lives. Hadiths are not to be thrown out altogether, bc it's a never-ending game. We will end up with nothing. If a hadith appears problematic, it's best to say "that's interesting... but I know that the Prophet was kind and compassionate and nurturing and fought for women".
> Hadiths are not to be thrown out altogether, bc it's a never-ending game. We will end up with nothing
So you will accept problematic hadiths just to avoid having "nothing"? Is the Quran that insufficient of a guide?
@@blumachine tell me how to pray nimaz from the Quran? Only show me references from Quran.
@@blumachine - The problem are not the hadith corpus per se. Because people with the same impetus of throwing out any material they find problematic can be carried into the Qur'an. There are plenty of criticisms that people levy against some "problematic" statements in the Qur'an. (e.g., the verse where it appears that God sanctions men hitting their spouses in Surat al-Nisaa'). But the overwhelming majority of Muslims would never think to just toss or ignore "problematic" verses. They instead opt to contextualize it and frame it in the bigger picture of what the Qur'an's overall message is.
The same should be done with the hadith: we need to contextualize, critique and apply the general maqasid of the shari'ah to these hadiths. Hadiths in themselves are not the end-all be-all of ethical and legal questions. They each have to go through a whole process of evaluation against legal principles, etc. This is not stuff that the average person should be doing anyway. Again, the average Muslim should focus on being kind, compassionate, just, merciful, etc. Do their 5 pillars and apply the ethos of the Prophet Muhammad's (saw) characteristics. The Prophet never hit women, shouted at them, treated them unjustly, etc. So that's what we should be following. Because that's the sunnah, or the habit of the prophet. Even if there are individual hadiths that seem to contradict the general sunnah of the Prophet. They are outliers.
@@8647-ux6yx - Honestly, I can tell from the way you're arguing simplistically that you don't have any formal training in these matters. Once again, I encourage all lay Muslims to stick to the basics of what they will be held accountable for spiritually. There's no point arguing about these matters, as if it's being discussed with any kind of sublety.
How do you pray? It’s not from the Quran?
If Sahih hadiths cannot be trusted Islam falls apart. Muhammads authenticity Falls apart.
No because there is the Quran. Hadiths came 200 years after the prophets pbuh” death. Even he himself said not to write down anything else but the Quran. It’s why you have quranists. But since Hadiths can be sourced back to the original sayer there’s no doubt some of them are actually what the person said. The problem becomes that not every one of them encompasses your morals.
@@matthoffman6962but the profhet learned the prayer salah in the hadith because its not in the quran so we must trust and follow these Hadiths
Yes, in Quran mentioned be good to parents. In Quran also mentioned wali can't prevent the daughter to get back into marriage. My point is if parent is really to be obeyed more than her choice of spouse then that has breach this law. In Surah An Nisa:34 clearly mention that righteous women is devoutly obedient to her husband. This verse also imply that the husband is to be obeyed (so long it's not haram). With due respect to Dr Shabir, this is his opinion and it is not the strongest argument on this particular matter. The muktabar scholars still strong in the argument. In terms of hadith, the chain is not the same level of the Quran but still strong due to the science of hadith and the perspective is actually aligned with Quran. Allah knows best.
No where in the Quran does it say a woman must obey her husband, that is your wishful translation 🤡
@@tranfang365
I mean the husband has to
Sacrifice himself so he has
The major responsibility.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 a woman sacrifices her body and her peace when having kids so what’s your point? You can’t make up things and say it’s from the Quran. People can read you know.
@@tranfang365
I'm fully aware of that, but the man
is the one who protects, provides
& Cares for the woman and is expected to give up his own life, people specifically
In the West have forgotten the mans role
and act as if men did nothing throughout
History but be bullies.
@@tranfang365
So do men, they go to protect
women and help them, people
seem to forget men have responsibilities
and duties & can't just do whatever
They want.
Daniel gets irritated😂
Love your abaya
Dr. Saffiyah why is it so difficult to simply label a Hadith as false even it somehow found it way into the 6 major books. Perhaps you should add a recap of how the ancestral Hadith writers selected what to add or what to keave especially Bukhari
MashaAllah. May Allah surround you both with goodness ♥️♥️
What about the issue of women and salah during menstruation?
Told in the Qur'an that anybody (including women) aren't allowed to perform Salah in junub state. Menstruation is one of the junub state.
Allah created a woman to menstruate so how can it be unclean? We all have blood, men and women! What if one has a disease that the person frequently has bleeding cysts on their body?
there is Only ONE source ,that is the Quran
there is no 'part 2' in islam
Part 12 and 13 are missing in the playlist, kindly check
Assalamu Aleykum, Thank you for the answer!
The discussion about hadiths being authentic is quite interesting and difficult.
I recalled another hadith: "the best of you are those who are the best to their wives". And this statement is quite strong. But if we follow the same logic we used for the hadiths mentioned in the video - the Quran talks about parents being the most important to a person, do we have to call this hadith problematic as well?
Lol, shabir keeping his distance from the abundance of embarrassing things in the hadiths
Classical examples of problematic hadith, and in addition, a dhaif hadith of golden rule 😅. Thank you Dr. Shabir
I think the most important question is what's the grade of the hadiths you mentioned? Let's hear what the ahadith scholars have to say about those ahadiths and take it from there inshaa Allaah
Alf Mabruk!
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But that means that a sahih hadith is not always reliable?
That’s exactly right.
He is providing any facts just his feelings may Allah protect Muslims from all fitnah
@@najmussaqib7542 so you think that every Sahih Hadith is true?
@@eros727 this is where my confusion always starts. Because most of the scholars say that if it is sahih than it is 100% true….
@@Coco_Moco01 Sahih just means that the chain of narrators is commonly accepted and that they are of sound mind and honest. It doesn’t take into account the context of the narration. So if a mistake were to occur within the chain, and it was carried forth, then it’s incumbent for people to use their intellect and determine if it makes sense. For an extreme example, imagine if a Hadith said that the prophet pbuh said that the moon was made of cheese. And everyone just went along with it and accepted it. All throughout the chain of narration they repeated the same thing. This would constitute a Sahih Hadith. Then it turns out that it’s obviously not. So now you have a situation where one thing has to be true: did the prophet actually say this? Impossible. Did he lie? Impossible. Was it ever made of cheese? Impossible. Then it was obviously either fabricated by someone early on, or misheard and misquoted. The context (main criticism) is extremely important in determining what’s more likely to be true. And of course if any Hadith shows any signs that it goes against the Quran, then it’s automatically false.
The problem with the excuse is that the Quran and Mohammed is a guide and example for all mankind from generation to generation.
There's no way to obfuscate it.
Stfg
I’ve never heard such a refreshing and realistic take on the hadiths before and the challenges women of the ummah face. Thank you for being humble in your research!
What about what men face??
Authentic Hadith is a correct Hadith
authentic hadiths are authenticated by people. Not by Allah. So not all authentic hadiths are authentic.
You believe that Ayesha was 6 😂
@@thiest-pn4xq ....لقد كانت هذه عادات العالم وقتها ، المرأه تتزوج بعد البلوغ، و لو كان هذا غريبا على عادات العرب وقتها لكان مشركى قريش أول من انتقد رسول الله ، صلى الله عليه وسلم ، و ما اسلم معه احد، شئ من المنطق ، حتى لو كنت تكره الإسلام
Has the Command of ALLAH mentioned in Surah Nah'l 16:1 come to pass yet?
The Hadiths make Islam terrible. Tho I’m not Muslim , the Quran isn’t a terrible book but the Hadiths have such odd and terrible stories in them that are part of Muslim theology. It corrupts the religion.
Yeah & they try to make women
look oppressed and like they
are all victims.
Quran 65:4
Quran 4:34
Quran 4:24
Women are equal to men in
The Quran?
Both have balanced rights!! And 65:4 doesn't say man have a degree over woman it says men have a degree ( of responsibility) over them! THEM means on divorced women!! Read it completely, just dont take one line from verse . In order to understand a verse you have to read the whole chapter. Read quran carefully kid. May Allah guide you
@@alayaslifestyle Ofc, Quran 65 is the talak surah. Now, Quran 65:4 is about child divorce before menstration. According to this ays, at what age, girls can marry? Muhammad, when he was 54, married Aisha. Aisha was 6 years old. If you have a sister adn she is 6 years old. Is it OK for you to marry a man who is 50 years old?
@@fishersofmen0419if he is the prophet of God and the most pure soul on earth he can marry my daughter at any age.
@zgsfreaky9102 yes, Muhammad is sunna. What about for Muslim men? Can they marry little girls?
@@fishersofmen0419 No, it says in the quran they have to reach maturity. Muslim men are not the same as the prophet. I don’t see whats so hard to understand here
How can Gods message be so confused, esp when you claim Islam is the Last True Message?
See islamqa about this hadith- it was ‘Classed as saheeh by al-Haakim, and adh-Dhahabi agreed with him. Also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.’
Yes you must respect your husbands women it is an act of devotion to Allah. Please get over it feminists.
People are vilifying religions
acting like all hate women
For no reason it makes no
Sense.
What about hadith about women wearing perfume?
Its a sahi hadees, and hardly something that is difficult to adhere to.
@@razamughal9095you need to get off of that cocaine.
Theres another hadith that says aisha and other women wore musk. Very contradictory
@@komo5278 hazrat Aisha RA*, show some respect with the name of the mother of the muminoon
All sahih hadith 💯 Authentic 🤔
@@heregoes8839 what if he said it? Would you boycott Islam then?
Quran is the constitution and Hadith is the interpretation of Clouses, Shariah is the law
Funny 😄 how he says to " make matters even worse" there's two bad Hadith Ughh 😔 just when im getting pulled in that pushed me back 😞Islam is peaceful the extremism or misinterpretation of the religion and the quaran for non muslims is too bad
I was about to donate that 1000$ you are asking for, then I remembered your video saying gender is on a spectrum so I didn't. May God guide you.
but the quran says men have a degree of authority over women
I believe there is an ayat the say wives have equal rights over the husband
Husbands have A degree over wives because they provide for them. If a husband not providing no degree over wives
My own humble opinion that we must be careful about hadits because hadits is jumble between right and false. In a nutshel hadits is not protected by God. It extremely differ from the Qur'an.
On the Day of judgement what's your humble opinion worth?
If the example of Khadija is anything to go by than women seemed to have had a better place in pre Islamic Arabia than later!
False
Very unscholarly and insincere. No references to the ahadith, their chains, zero details. How can you comment on somethings authenticity without even critiquing its source
You see the scholars of our time 🤦🤦
*so called
@@najmussaqib7542 He is actually a tiny minority in the west who have adopted Quranism. They reject the traditional and established Islamic positions from any school of thought. Very much influenced by western Liberalism
He completely disregards isnad in the entirety of the series about Hadith. In this video he claims that the Hadiths were created by some guy who was mad at his wife. 😂😂😂
Do you know how easy to prove that? If he studied a little bit of Hadith he would have known what Madar Al-Hadith concept is. He doesn't do any leg work just speculates and pretends it's facts.
Someone said the channel should be named let Shabir speak 😂😂😂
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 very true. Let shabirs desires speak
WHAT IF MOHAMMED SAID IT??? If the saying is good, GREAT that came from Mohammed. If its an awful saying NO that didn't come from MOHAMMED. Cherrypicking! That's all islam is about...you do that with the bible and you doing that with your own so called authentic hadiths too. I'm sorry for you but it seems without that Islam falls. You guys should step up cos that isn't making your islam religion look so good
It insane how many Hadith they reject simply because it goes against their preconceived notion of Muhammad. They have Sahih Book they reject lol
Even had it been 💯 authenticated. What's your objection to a prophet of God saying such a thing?
Assuming you're Chrisitan. There're so many X-rated passages in the Bible was recently removed from primary schools in Utah, USA due to "Vulgarity and violence".
So, by your own standard this is tame compared to the explicit verses in the Bible.
Didn't Shabir once said Jesus WAS crucified?does he still believe that?
I think a more professional approach to learning Islam (unlike what these 2 are doing) is to gather ALL the chains (versions) of a Hadeeth in question then analyze what the Hadeeth scholars have said about authenticity and discuss only authentic Hadeeth. Instead of creating confusion among people. If you open the door to picking and choosing scripture based on your desires then you might as well use any book as your source of guidance since the guidance is actually coming from your desires instead of Evidences.
If you dont like pus then dont disrespect your husband.
If you dont like pus then avoid going to hell.
Awaiting them is Hell, and they will be left to drink oozing pus,
which they will sip with difficulty, and can hardly swallow. Death will overwhelm them from every side, yet they will not ˹be able to˺ die. Awaiting them still is harsher torment.
14:16-17
I only believe mutawitr hadith that does not contradict the Quran
Everything cotradict with or does not come from alquran does not come from Muhammad, why? because the prophet preached alquran, not others.
“Problematic Hadith about women” really!! I really didn’t know that Hadiths can cause problems?😂
Just because a hadith doesn’t sit well with new age feminists doesn’t make it weak shabir. There is a system the scholars developed to classify them and the Hadith about women respecting their husbands being tied with their deeds and ability to enter jannah are NUMEROUS. This Hadith you mentioned about prostration to husbands was classified as sahih or Hasan by many scholars.
Many other scholars classified the hadith mentioned as weak. It is a legitimate concern for anyone interested in seeking the truth when there is dispute over religious matters by the scholars themselves.
Brothers and sisters, the Qur'an is sufficient and following hadiths is impermissible. Allah has warned us about this.
"And of men is he who takes instead frivolous *hadith* to lead astray from Allah's path without knowledge, and to take it for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement." 31:6
Read the following ayahs:
And in anything over which you disagree - *its ruling is [to be referred] to Allah.* [Say], "That is Allah , my Lord; upon Him I have relied, and to Him I turn back." 42:10
"One day We shall raise from all Peoples a witness against them, from amongst themselves: and We shall bring thee as a witness against these (thy people): and We have sent down to thee the *Book explaining all things* , a Guide, a Mercy, and Glad Tidings to Muslims." 16:89
"O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah *a light and a clear Book* ." 5:15
"Alif, Lam, Ra. These are the verses of the *Book and a clear Qur'an* ." 15:1
"Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath *revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained* ? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers." 6:114
" *A Book whose verses have been detailed* , an Arabic Qur'an for a people who know," 41:3
" *Thus do We explain the signs in detail* ; and perchance they may turn (unto Us)." 7:174
"And when We read it, follow thou the reading;" 75:18
"Nay more, *it is for Us to explain it (and make it clear)* : 75:19
"For We had certainly sent unto them a Book, based on knowledge, *which We explained in detail* ,- a guide and a mercy to all who believe." 7:52
"And they do not come to you with an argument except that *We bring you the truth and the best explanation* ." 25:33
" *Allah has sent down the best hadith* : a consistent Book wherein is reiteration. The skins shiver therefrom of those who fear their Lord; then their skins and their hearts relax at the remembrance of Allah. That is the guidance of Allah by which He guides whom He wills. And one whom Allah leaves astray - for him there is no guide." 39:23
"These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. *Then in what hadith after Allah and His verses will they believe?* " 45:6
"Then in what *hadith* after the Qur'an will they believe?" 77:50
So obey Allah, and obey His Messenger: but if ye turn back, *the duty of Our Messenger is but to proclaim (the Message) clearly and openly* . 64:12
"Say, "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger; but if you turn away - then upon him is only that [duty] with which he has been charged, and upon you is that with which you have been charged. And if you obey him, you will be [rightly] guided. *And there is not upon the Messenger except the [responsibility for] clear notification* ." 24:54
*The most merciful* 55:1
"It is *He* Who has taught the Qur'an." 55:2
" *The guiding of them is not thy duty* (O Muhammad), but Allah guideth whom He will. And whatsoever good thing ye spend, it is for yourselves, when ye spend not save in search of Allah's Countenance; and whatsoever good thing ye spend, it will be repaid to you in full, and ye will not be wronged." 2:272
"And We have certainly diversified in this Qur'an for the people from *every [kind of] example* ; *but man has ever been, most of anything, [prone to] dispute.* " 18:54
"Say, " Allah is most knowing of how long they remained. He has [knowledge of] the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and the earth. How Seeing is He and how Hearing! They have not besides Him any protector, and *He shares not His legislation with anyone.* "" 18:26
“You worship not besides Him except [mere] names you have named them, you and your fathers, for which Allah has sent down no authority. *Legislation is not but for Allah.* He has commanded that you worship not except Him. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.” 18:40
This is Kufr.
The Qur'an tells us to follow the Hadith.
Do you pray? Give zakat ? Perform hajj? You wouldn't know how without the Qur'an.
Allah: In what hadith other than the Qur'an will they believe?
You: The Qur'an says to follow the hadith.
And you call me the ka fir 😂
For Muslims these Hadith are not problematic, only problematic for Feminist..Why does dis channel focus on the opinion of feminist?
Because it's feminist opinionated &
Making the men all the bad guys.
The best among you are best to your wives
Muslims criticise the Bible NT and rightly so but appear to have a blind spot when admitting hadith are basically the same, i.e. hearsay but somehow elevate them to higher standards. The weird thing is God never sanctioned any of these extra books and Qur'an itself even goes so far as to condemn other "hadiths" and even the hadiths have hadiths which condemn their writings!?
Hadiths and Bible I don't think they are the same thing. And hadiths can be helpful in the better understanding (that's what people say)
@@rebacathek-popfan7950helpful but also extremely detrimental to a person’s iman. Many reverts show how the Quran saved them but then they read hadiths and second guess their decision to become Muslim.
Ive learned to accept what i understand logically and push aside what i just dont and ask allah to help me understand one day. Islam has helped me a lot so i wont leave the religion but im not going to blindly sit here and say i understand everything and everything makes sense and im happy w everything bc that’d be a huge lie.
@@Amila-ym7ny , as a Muslim I tbh agree
Muslims can critique Hadiths but the Quran is unanimously agreed upon as being supreme. The bible for Christians is like the Quran for Muslims, so the Bible should not have contradictions.
Can anyone here explain the verse 4:34 Quran - which gives right to men to strike/beat their wives? Asking genuinely - what is your interpretation of 4:34 ?
You can watch a video about this from the impactful scholar channel
Nouman Ali khan talks about it well
That was completely taken out of
Context to use it to vilify the man
most men do not just go around
hitting people.
'Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-'As reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Verily, Allah does not take away knowledge by snatching it from the people but He takes away knowledge by taking away the scholars, so that when He leaves no learned person, people turn to the ignorant as their leaders; then they are asked to deliver religious verdicts and they deliver them without knowledge, they go astray, and lead others astray.
Sahih Muslim 2673 a
You 2 are making ignorant people doubt and detest Hadeeth. Please be professional and if you want to discuss a topic STOP giving your Opinions and i stead give Evidences. Show each Hadeeth and chains on screen with comment of each Muhadith. If your too busy to edit vidros properly then outsource the editing to somewhere.
Q4:34 must be a weak ayah.
there is no such thing as a weak ayah. Every ayah is from God. Whichevre muslim believes that an ayat in the Quran is false or not from Allah, will automatically become a disbeliever and outright kafir (infidel).
@@IslamChannelUSA
Also, ive seen u before and idk whos teaching you the deem but u need to avoid the whole "Quran only" belief. Thats heretical. You need to also believe in Sunnah (extracted from hadiths)
@@dom3073They are only as reliable as the the author, the false prophet Muhammad.
Does that apply to the Satanic Verses as well?
@@dom3073you can’t force a belief
I request you to take time to phrase the titles of your clips in a way that is gentle and pleasing. As a scholar said, "Our religion is devine but our history is human", difference of opinion is unavoidable and may be necessary to arrive at an amicable settlement but let's not be part of creating a division.
No, the title is indeed phrased very correctly. And the video should have made that clear, since there are hadith’s that aren’t sahih, and there’s nothing wrong with making that clear. If anything videos like these help us muslims all stay on the right path.
The hadith cannot be trusted on the most elementary truths. If it were from God it would not contain so many contradictions. But this means that everything you think you know about Muhammad is a lie.
Explain then why you still believe in the Bible despite its clear contradictions and unknown history.
Hadiths are Inspired by ALLAH??? Seriously?
Prophet Muhammad pbuh was inspired by Allah SWT.
Do you think Allah SWT only gave him the Qur'an and never revealed to him anything else or guided him?
How are the two related? Or is Prophet Muhammad indeed Bukharis stories?@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411
Dr shabir, why are yoy silent about the burning of christian church in Pakistan?
In remember you talking about Quran burning in the west, what about christian house of prayers burned lately??
Is there any reason you are silent about it??
Your silence indicates you approbation and contentment..
Should christian burn 5 mosque is kufar's lands?
You set the example first. List all the crimes your people committed apologise for them then ask Muslims to do the same.
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 wich crime our people did, list them and where??
List them,,
I wait
@@mohamedsheikhmohamed5411 so you are saying we should burn your mosque as response?
List all the crime we committed in the name of our God is your are truthful
@@whoisthispleasefathmah8963 genocide of Muslims in Andalusia.
The titles of these video is soo ugly and should hurt the heart of anyone who loves Rasulullah SAW
If you want to debunk fabricated Hadith, then name the videos accordingly.
Hadith and Problematic can never be in the same title
Start reading the Bible and study what Yeshua Mashiach has taught thanks to mankind. He is coming back!
C
slowly you are becoming a Quranist.. and after few years you will become an ex muslim .
"Masha demon on throne above seven skies who can be seen on day of resurrection"
Fear Allah, Shabir.
You're basically telling people to deny and reject the hadiths they don't like, this is a major deviance.
Delete this fitnah and do not speak in issues outside of your scope of knowledge and specialty.
Can you do a video about hoor al ain. It hurts me so bad that men are going to sleep with other women in heaven. That is not something a woman would look forward to.
I think we're confusing ourselves here, yes we're equal as human beings but have different responsibilities in either a family setup or community setup and so on. Because the Hadith makes emphasis on respecting a husband (man) in a family setup doesn't make it a false one, we have a Hadith which emphasis on respecting the mother more than the father which doesn't make it a contradictory Hadith and we all know which gender a mother is. I respect your opinion Dr. Shabbir but sometimes your opinions appear contradictory to your beliefs as a Muslim which can lead many Muslims in the western world astray. Last time you talked hijab being an innovation and yet your daughter is well covered as a Muslim woman. I really don't understand you sometimes
Why do women cover their hair? Did Allah make a mistake in giving them hair.
Very puzzled? Help. Many religious books? Are those all FALSE. Is Quran the only correct one. No insult intended. Just cuprous.
Thanks. Just curious. In Iran they put they put them in jail. Taliban are more strict. PM of Pakistan married 6 times. I think (Personally) there is better luck if you give her flowers.
No offence intended. Just my experience Married for 65 years. @@heregoes8839
According to Sheikh Khaled Abou El Fadl, Fatimah Al Kubra, the great granddaughter of our prophet, did not cover her hair
with that logic why do do you cover your private parts are they mistakes？
I mean men are told to cover their
Hear as well.
This Hadith is not weak or incorrect,
It is an authentic Hadith
The hadiths were forged.
you will be held accountable for this slander on judgement day @@HH-pv9ex
what are you talking about?? the hadith about wife lick sore of husband was very weak hadith@@HH-pv9ex
problematic for who ? feminists, lgbt followers, secularists, liberals ? we have to stop appealing to these lost individuals
All Muslim brothers and sister….question yourself is my Quran absolute truth and how did this book came about? Is my Muhammad really telling our Muslim people the truth? How did your leader Muhammed knew about Abraham, Moses, Ismael, etc and he put these names in your Quran Book? These names were found originally from Christian’s Bible way before Quran. Your leader shut the New Testament (NT) to all your people. There’s is a resurrection that happened if you read them all chapters esp…start with John & Luke. I encourage you to research bc I did my research too….Jesus said He is the only way to eternal life when we confess with our mouth and believe that He rose from the dead. John 3:16/14:6…❤️🙏RESEARCH and don’t keep saying you did….READ🙏🙏🙏
I have a question for you: why should I trust the New Testament? It has many geographical mistakes, added passages that were not there, the original manuscripts do not exist. How can a document with mistranslations from the Hebrew be a book of G?
You first read if the Bible is truly (as it is now) the word of your and our creator. If you are really honest, sincere, knowledgeable, straight forward and truthful, after reading countless reports published by jewsish and christian scholars, you will realise that Bible should probably the most modified, edited with all sorts of insertion, deletion, addition and subtraction. Only God knows how much of it is from God and Jesus. So YOU READ FIRST what you are reading. Read about the Bible first before you start reading the Bible.
Who wrote the Bible Jesus never claim to be god Paul invented Christianity Islam is Unitarian religion we don’t worship human being.
FAKE NEWS. THE BIBLE HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH, AND IF REALLY WORKS, YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE.
In your research you only read those who you wanted to say what you already believed. But read people who says contrary and raise plausible objections and questions. Even the most smart William lane Craig do not discuss on bible errors and mistakes. If Bible really changed by scribes then Bible could not be right historical document to examine whether resurrection happened or not because no one can change god's final words if nt is really a final testament of God. Only Quranic god claims to protect and guard the Qur'an.