The Dorian Mode | Why Everyone Loves This Mode
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- In this episode I discuss in detail how to use the DORIAN MODE or Scale for composition (Film Scoring) or in improvisation on the Guitar, Piano or any instrument. I talk about the unique qualities of the DORIAN mode's Natural 6th and WHY EVERYONE LOVES THIS SOUND.
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Dorian is without any doubt whatsoever the best of all modes! I may be somewhat biased.
Haha Dorian Stretton.
Same ;)
Mixolydian b9 is pretty cool too
Dorian Stretton I agree
@@chloejackson-reynolds418 true. It's not one of the 7 modes though.
Dorian is the glimpse of hope after a tragedy.
Exactly
Nope. That's lydian
@@digletttexano678 the Dorian mode, with the Christmassy 6th note, will help give a whimsical sounding feel, which would have otherwise had a Lenten sounding feel.
@@flanderstruck3751 Lydian mode will be sorted Major sound, with a more Christmassy 4th note.
that's beautiful
Rick: singing in the shower
Sony: triggered
Beato: *could play Dorian in C major but plays in B major like a boss.*
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Why poor monetization
The amasing thing about Dorian is that, although it is minor, it is not "dark". It carries some melancoly, but i'd rather say it's full of mystery and promesses.
The way I think of it, Dorian evokes a sense of melancholy, of forlornness. That something you want is just beyond your reach but you can’t grasp it.
I have to agree. It's minor but it offers hope of resolution ... sometime in the future.
@@thebeamerdreamerwe all tend to enjoy the key of E Dorian, as defined by the C# note.
Your Dorian composition piece had an airy atmospheric feel that the visuals really complemented. Phrygian has always been a favorite mine... Thanks
The Force Theme by John Williams deserves mention, I think it needs to be said.
It’s another example of modulating from Dorian to Aeolian. It’s of the most powerful uses of that composition technique I can think of.
She: I like brave guys...
Rick: I use The Beatles' songs in my videos.
Love it
Fun fact: I used to think of the Dorian Mode as "the Prince scale", because it was learning Prince's solos and guitar work in general that I learned it. Only years later I found out it was called the Dorian Mode. Now that I think about it, really wish you would do a video on Prince'. It's hard because he would save most of his guitar playing for his live shows, so you had to be familiar with it.
Santana
Santana
Sadly, Prince's estate is a very aggressive blocker. Give it another 5-10 years, and no one will remember Prince's music.
Garance A Drosehn That's true, but I think the last couple of years they let it go a bit, other than things that they want to put in reissues and stuff. You can find a lot of live material on TH-cam, which was not the case a few years ago.
Any Prince video would be instablocked
The emotion conveyed by dorian is awe.
It’s strange how I love watching all these Videos and i don’t have a single clue about ANYTHING he’s saying. I don’t even know chords.
Word
Neither do I. I sing but unfortunately don't play instruments. 🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼
same here man! It fascinates me but for what concerns me i know i don t have the brain to ever learn any of this.. still it really makes me feel good
Same here (Well largely). It will seep in by osmosis. 😉
I know just what you're talking about.
The I'm sad but its getting better mode. Loved that composed piece! Tnx.
That's quite right, actually :)
@@dougcrane8031 absolutely.
@debaser I like all modes, they all have their soul.
Nice point, good one! ;)
I'd say it's not really sad, it's more like sweet melancholy mode. No real drama, no bad feelings, for example, you just remembered some happy moments from your childhood and you smile but at the same time realize that your childhood is long gone. So it's a sweet memory, but it kinda sets your mind into the Dorian mode, thinking about how time flows and maybe where your childhood friends are now and so on.
Pink Floyd Breathe is largely in E Dorian with it's Emadd9 to A progression. What's more interesting though is the way they break out of the mode and work back into it.
that’s another dorian- aeolian example
@@harrysouter2304 / Bingo !!! perhaps the single greatest example in rock
@@harrysouter2304 Partially yes, but they also throw an F major 7 in there along with a D7#9 and D7b9 that leads back into Em.
I love that song.
@@j.s.2419 Most likely Rick Wright was the only one in the band who actually knew the theory behind those chords
I hear Dorian and its major counterpart Lydian as "foolproof" in that there are no bad sounding note clusters to be found in them. Indeed the entire mode can be present as a fully extended chord without any of those pesky tensions begging to be resolved or avoided which are present in every other mode. An argument can be made that unlike the other modes the extensions don't conflict with the primary chord tones so there's nothing to avoid. Another way to think of it is that Dorian and Lydian are "stable" i.e. one can camp out indefinitely in either as is pretty much the case with So What, Impressions, and many others. Nicely done Rick.
It would make sense since so many jazz folk end tunes on Dorian or m6 type chords which can often tend to sound like inversions of Lydian.
There is somethings to avoid to keep the way it sounds, not that it wilol sound bad. If you throw an C+E major thrird 3 on F lydian you will be on the edge to sound like an ordinary C Ionian thing.
@@ohwhen7775 Good point. Also, that m6 II chord is also nearly identical to the V9 in the same key so it combines dominant Mixo and ethereal Lydian flavors along with the primary minor quality. Nice place to land.
actually you can turn the mixolydian scale into a 13 chord, which sounds pretty stable too
@@XENOGOD True but the Mixo mix contains a 4 which if added to the chord would make it less stable, suggesting a subsequent resolution, likewise if the 4 replaces the 3. Again, all the modes except Dorian and Lydian have conflicting elements built in. Not that there's anything wrong with conflict ;)
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When I was 7 my parents sent me to a music school in Warsaw (piano classes). Within 6 years I've learnt sh*t and was discouraged from music. Now I'm 27 and watching your videos and these actually helped me to understand a lot. THANK YOU, kind sir. Now I'm havin' fun with music instead of struggling.
Did they teach you modes? Most people I know who had piano lessons only learnt major scale, minor scale, and harmonic minor scale. No mixolydian or dorian modes. These people struggled to play rock, jazz, or blues.
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@@diannehogan7605 Yes, they did.
Hes such a nice guy isnt he?
I love the guy like a brother.
Probably my favourite minor mode. What a beautiful composition and soundscape at the end there, Rick. Reminds me of norwegian nature. You're a gem. :) Thanks yet again.
I love the piece you've composed in this video !
Your composition was mesmerizing, Rick - well done, brother.
I love Dorian - probably because I’ve been using it longer than the other major scale modes because the minor pentatonic lives in it and that’s where I started all those years ago.
Well said!
B Dorian sounds like the whole Halo soundtrack, especially with the string sound.
I had the exact same thought. When Rick loaded up the strings patch, I immediately went "This is Halo!"
Same same same, absolutely love the Halo Soundtrack
yep when i heard those strings i immediately started humming Roll Call and started looking for Halo comments.
the piece Rick composed sounds like it came straight out of ODST as well.
I saw a video clip of an interview with Martin O'Donnell (composed much of the music in Halo over the years) and he was talking about the music for the upcoming Halo 3. He said, "I don't want to give away too much but I will say this: E, Dorian!"
Dorian always sounded hopeful to me. Gotta love it.
Fantastic Rick. I’m walking around Clava Cairns in the Scottish Highlands, which is an ancient burial ground, and just loving this lesson - the Dorian melodies, the Chords etc. I’m a great lover of Sting and always appreciate how you break down his wonderful compositions. Thank you.
I loved that last sound track piece. It was beautiful. It had me in tears. Thank you so much for all your hard work and heart you put in your videos.
That original piece was beautiful! Wonderful visuals as well. I started watching you for the "What Makes This Song Great" videos but I've been taken on a magic carpet ride!! Love it.
Great vid ! Here is 10 epic rock guitar riffs in dorian :
AC/DC - Back in black
America - A Horse with no name
QOTSA - If Only
RHCP - Transcending
Metallica - Bleeding me
Simon and Garfienkel - Scarborough Fair
Chris Isaac - Wicked game
Nickelback - How you remind me
Green Day - Boulevard of broken dreams
The Door - Rider on the storms (intro bass line)
Nickleback
I always consider the Dorian mode as 'the Santana scale'. In tunes like Oye Como Va and Soul Sacrifice, Santana plays in A Dorian, so everytime I want to remember how the mode feels like, I always remember those 2 songs.
Great comment bro
I don't know if you (Rick) read some of the comments on your videos, but I just want to say that I am amazed everytime I watch one of your video. Your knowledge of music, the ease with which you explain "everything music", the pertinence of the examples you give, your wealth of knowledge... Man! You're one of a kind! The priceless kind, that is! Thank you for making all of this available to us and taking the time to explain it to us.
Thanks for making these videos, Rick. It's great to be able to hear examples of Dorian mode music. And your composition near the end of the video is very beautiful!😺🐱
Dorian is the Lydian of the minor scales. That's what it feels like to me.
Metashrew interesting way of thinking about it. I tend to associate the standard modes by their distance from the center. Dorian corresponds to mixolydian, minor to major, and Phrygian to Lydian. Minor and major are the clean modes (no tritones with any of the notes of their 1 chords), Dorian and mixolydian both have tritones based on the third, and as such are less stable but as long as they 1 chords are emphasized, they work. They can both sound a gritty due to the dissonance. Phrygian and Lydian both have more dissonance, tritones with the 5 and 1 respectively. As such, Lydian has a dim 4 chord, and Phrygian a dim 5 chord. Both require a lot of finessing to get chord progressions to sound natural and stable.
Edit: Locrian is its own (beautiful) can of worms and doesn’t have a mode that corresponds to it.
I would say mixolydian but I feel you
@@goreevisuals That's almost it, you mean "relative" instead of "parallel". The relative major of a minor mode is on its third degree. Thus, Lydian is the relative major of Dorian the same way Ionian is the relative major of Aeolian. And in the same way, Mixolydian is the relative major of Phrygian. Interestingly, if we consider Locrian to be "minor" (which it isn't), then its "relative major" turns out to be Dorian, and if we consider it to be "major" (which it isn't), then its "relative minor" scale is Mixolydian.
There is a central relationship between Dorian and Mixolydian - both modes share the same note save for the third. In that sense, you could say that Mixolydian is a sort of "parallel major" of Dorian, and vice versa. In fact, both modes can be used alternatingly in composition (and even in improvisation - check out the Dorian Bebop scale) with great effectiveness.
This central division is further exacerbated if you divide the modes into major and minor (keep in mind that Locrian is not minor), which are central points in harmony. You can then rank your modes by brightness - from brightest to darkest, omitting Locrian: Lydian, Ionian, Mixolydian, Dorian, Aeolian, and Phrygian.
As you can see, and was explained in further detail by Carbon Monoxide, too much brightness can be difficult to use, and so is too much darkness - both Lydian and Phrygian have a lot of dissonance, whereas Dorian and Mixolydian are more balanced and therefore less dissonant.
So in summary, it all depends on the way you see it, but yes, the idea is that you get the same amount of added brightness when modulating to Dorian from Aeolian as you do when modulating to Lydian from Ionian (and the same goes for darkness with Phrygian and Mixolydian). However, this happens only when modulating, when you have established a harmonic center - major or minor. Otherwise (when writing purely in a specific mode), you should refer to the perspective that was put forth by Carbon Monoxide.
Nailed it bro!!
I think the people saying Dorian is the Mixolydian of minor scales are making theoretical links that aren’t actually there.
I think your instinctive thought (based on the feeling of the sounds) that Dorian and Lydian are intertwined is a lot more true. I agree at least.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the notes that define the sound of Lydian and Dorian are the #4 and natural 6th, respectively, and these are actually the same note in a particular key (thinking modally).
As an example, D Dorian and F Lydian are the same set of notes and they both have B as their characteristic note.
A very popular Dorian tune is Oye Como Va by Santana
*stares in Tito Puente*
Or any Santana song
aradder lmao
@@aradder HAHAH
This was really a much more obvious choice and is by far the most well known tune to really hammer home dorian . I feel like his pop rock examples weren't really helpful - still a great video though and love his compositions.
I like the lighting of the room you are in. It's really nice to the eyes! and with all the musical elements in the background. Good filming!
Hey Rick, thank you ever so much for the value of education you are giving people for free! I learned almost everything i know in music from your videos and your book. Keep doing what you're doing it is a real service to the community :)
Nice match between the footage and music. Beautiful!
I really like music that is bright and depressing at the same time!
No Surprises
You like bipolar music.
Nathan Danner Sweet n Sour!
Bright and depressing, sounds like a description of my personality.
This has got to be the best Music Channel out there. Thanks alot Rick!! Going to buy your book..!
I am so glad I've found Rick's videos. I've never been a student of music but I love how much there really is to playing and composition. Love the videos and its making me want to do more formal music study.
You should produce film music. It would fit perfectly: no tours, no promotion. Just beautiful music.
Yes drag out the Sonuscore Orchestra
He does
Great video Rick! As always. love the modal content 👍
Beautiful composition, Rick. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your art.
Dorian is one of my favorite modes, and Rick your composition is beautiful!
Hey Rick, sounds like you could have a second (third/fourth?) career doing film scores. Though those arpeggiated sections might sound good in a fusion context too. Nice stuff.
1:36-1:57
Very beautiful. Also, every modern theatrical musical score ever
Absolutely beautiful mode. There's something so profoundly beautiful and spiritual about music that I just can't put my finger on. Me and everyone else I guess! Your piece at the end is just wonderful Rick. Thank you.
Not sure why I’m addicted to this channel because most of what Rick talks about is way beyond my level of understanding - yet I’m fascinated by it. Beautiful backing track at the end of the video. 🤔👍
"Twilight Zone" by Rush; Dorian (chorus) & Aeolian (verse) mix example
Then there is Van Morrison’s Moondance, and Kenny Burrell’s Midnight Blue.
I just love Van Morrison’s music. Astral Weeks is one of my very favorite albums.
@@Henry-uv9xu Into The Mystic is musical sublimity. Also Tupelo Honey, Domino, Brown Eyed Girl, Wild Nights, well... you catch my drift. LOL!
When I heard Kenny Burrell for the first time recently it seemed to me that that was exactly where Van Morrison got his inspiration from.
@@BrandochGarage I think you’re right. And I’m guessing Kenny Burrell had heard So What by Miles Davis.
@@johnn7776 I think everyone heard that one! :) It is pretty brilliant.
Wow Rick.
I so love the piece you composed for this video at the end. You are very talented and heart centered!♡
Rick; I've been in love with this particular "chord" that I came across, and today I discovered that it was in Dorian! Thanks for your excellent vids, and keep them coming brother. Long Live Music!!!
The beginning triggered all of these Thomas Newman flashbacks like Shawshank or Road to Perdition.
you mean shawshank redemption or road to perdition
LOL i just think red dead redemption
Sounded a bit like the theme from American Beauty.
2 of my faves that I was thinking (and commented) as well :). "Road to Chicago" . . . sublime.
@@Pedozzi yeah Perdition is what i meant :D
Dorian was the first mode I learned after ionian (major scale) and aeolian (natural minor scale). For guitar dorian fits in great with the minor pentatonic scale. The Allman Brothers In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed from Live At Fillmore East is the song that introduced me to the dorian mode. Dickey Betts first solo in particular.
Huge, huge fan of your stuff Rick!!! Great composition, btw🎵
Thanks for making these modal videos, Rick; they're awesome! I always understood the modes in theory, but these are really helpful in explaining them practically and showing their unique sounds.
I like what you say about awareness of the half-step intervals in the modes.
I feel like the Ethiopian pentatonic scale and its modes perfectly illustrate the range of moods and ideas that can be created and discovered in these half-step intervals.
My God Hypes! All the playing in this is just beautiful. "Haunting" is the word for it! Love these mode videos. I go back and watch them for inspiration.
Thanks Hypes!
Love these videos of yours Rick!
You do such a beautiful job of explaining and demonstrating this very special mode. Thank you!
I hear the Dorian mode is best played using D'Ddorian strings.
Boooooooo! - -- sorry I meant, goddammit, here's your +1. now get out. :-)
c0il bah dum tiss....
Hahaha nice
My nan wants her joke back
The world don't need no more Phrygian puns. Bach off, man.
I’m sorry. I own the Dorian mode. You must cease and desist. 😜
I'm Dorian and I own this mode
Who is she and what does she mean to you? 😈
I own purple and potassium chloride. Not related to video, just throwing that out there.
replaycraig Thanks for the heads up!
Durin S. Bane You will be hearing from my attorneys. Or at least someone who has watched a lot of Law & Order. Good day. I said good day sir! 😂😜
Thank you Rick. Really enjoying your videos!
Nice composition at the end. Great vid all around. Keep up the fantastic work!
I think Dorian might just be the most iconic and fulfilled mode due to the legends that have used them in the most iconic tunes! Always a pleasure to watch and learn from ye Rick!
RC32 can u name some examples for us? I learn so much from rick AND his followers.
@@forprogress999 Santana is probably the best example. Oye Como Va or Soul Sacrifice come to mind for me
Aeolian mode is the most used because its the same as natural minor. Then mixolydian because of how many rock songs use it (1 - b7 - 4 progressions). Then Dorian
That piece is incredible! Mad World by Tears for Fears is another great song in Dorian mode.
What a beautiful piece in the end Rick. Love it!
Love your composition in this one, hauntingly beautiful! 👌😩👌
"Whipping Post" by The Allman Brothers is one of the most famous Dorian songs of all time.
@@officialWWM you don't make the difference
@@officialWWM thats incredibly unfortunate. I feel bad for you
Even I heard of it... 👍🏾👍🏾
@@officialWWM I'm Australian and I know the Allman Brothers Band well. They were well known if the 70s. If you like extended blues with lots of improvising check out 'Live at Filmore East'.
@@officialWWM it's okay to not know about an older band if you're young, but now that you know about The Allman Brothers, I highly encourage you to check out their music.
beautiful haunting melody
Thank you so much for making these videos, Rick! I'm learning so much from you!
Omg Rick, you are an amazing teacher and musician! I am so happy to have discovered you today. Thank you so much!
My improvising life changed forever when I realized the Major 6 is the 3rd of the MA 4 chord. Dorian for life!
The Rain Song from LZ is dorian too, my favorite dorian song ever composed.
The Dorian mode has got to be my favorite- so beautiful!
One of the most beautiful video of yours, thank you Rick!
Years after reading Miles Davis' autobiography, I now know what he meant when he critiqued John Coltrane for continuing to play "in the mode" after Davis had moved on to experimental fusion. Thank you.
Isn't "Riders on the Storm" in E Dorian?
Also, I believe the main soft melody of the Halo videogame series is in Dorian.
I haven't analyzed this in detail, but I always associate this sound, along with Lydian, with Thomas Newman's scores. I know uses a lot of Lydian but I could swear there's Dorian in there, too!
I was going to guess "The Rain Song".
Someone else mentioned Newman and I realized the main theme of my fave film (Shawshank Redemption, which Thomas Newman scored) is in C Dorian.
The Vomit err, maybe I misunderstand, but the middle section of the chant hangs on the fifth of E Dorian. The full chant goes as follows:
E~/F#/G\F#/A\G\F#~\ E>~~...
B/C#/D~\C#\A/C#\B>~...
[\B/D/]E/G/A\F#~\E/G\F#\E/F#\D>~/~~~>...
Dorian is also the first of the old church modes, so that makes sense for Gregorian chanting.
I immediately thought of American beauty when I heard the opening notes
Your composition is beautiful. Thank you for all your time and effort.
Beautiful....thank you Rick Beato for these videos!!!
Dorian has something to it. Improvising something in Dorian nearly always works well with an audience.
Dorian mode: Exists
Carlos Santana: "Hello there"
Frank Zappa has entered the scene.
"When you play music"
General Santana
@@aaroninja1 hahaha
@@Marcaine for the culture lol
Oh my gosh Rick! Your piece vibrated my soul! I love Dorian pieces!
Great video. I can't believe how effortlessly you can target the most beautiful sounds of each mode
The Dorian mode makes me thing of Type O Negative's "October Rust" album and that makes me happy.
I looked up "Music" in a giant dictionary and all I saw was a picture of Rick Beato.
Love the Dorian composition! Well done Rick. I definitely need to explore Dorian possibilities. Thanks for the inspiration.
Beautiful atmospherics on the tune. Smooth, peaceful, and introspective. I could use listening more of this type! Peace Rick and thank you for the peaceful interlude.
Pat Martino's "convert to minor" idea was identified wrongly by one writer as natural minor, but it's Dorian. Also, the Dorian mode is symmetrical intervalically.
Dorian is one of my favorites. Next to Lydian.
For me it's the opposite, Lydian followed by Dorian. Both sound fantastic.
Funny thing the same note that makes dorian unique is the same that makes lydian unique related to the parent major scale so no wonder why you like them both
They have the perfect amount of dissonance
Mixolydian. It feels like dirt roads to magical fairy kingdoms in the woods.
Rick, your compositions are so beautiful
Great video as always! I love your original composition and and beautiful video along with it!
Rick has forgotten more theory than I’ll ever know.
Do enjoy the silence by Depeche Mode
Schismatic Audio I love your profile picture! Pawn Hearts is a masterpiece, and Van der Graaf Generator is one of the best prog bands ever!
I always enjoy the silence by Depeche Mode.
@@deliusmyth5063 Yes, the silence before and after is the best part.
Nice band/album profile picture
Rick loves electronic music :)
Excellent video about one of my favourite modes :) -- and such a wondrous soundtrack!! x
Beautiful, Rick. Thanks for your song.
Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits uses the Dorian mode very well.
I watched 'The Shawshank Redemption' again recently. Some of the music on this video reminded me of the music in the film. Was Thomas Newman using the dorian mode?
That's pretty much what I thought too, except it was Newman's superb score for Road To Perdition that came to mind.
rhessex huh, now that you mention it, the main theme (both Stoic Theme and Sisters on the soundtrack if I recall rightly) is in Dorian. C Dorian in the case of Stoic Theme. I think Sisters might be transposed, despite being a soft reprise. I always thought the four-note bass line was interesting because it’s like a slowed down blues walk-up almost, but instead rendered somber and foreboding when slowed underneath the main melody.
I’m only a minute into the video, but I was hoping/expecting to hear something of Marty O’Donnell’s scores from the Halo trilogy of videogames, which are mostly based in E Dorian, including the famous chanting main theme as well as Halo 3’s main theme (Finish The Fight for example, I think it’s called?)
Hunter Short I thought of Halo too
This!
Rick, whenever you demonstrate modes, it's actually some of the most beautiful stuff!
I really love the Lydian one \m/
Your original piece is terrific. Please keep sharing your passion for music!
Whenever I hear a dorian scale on an acoustic lute type instrument, I'm suddenly in medieval times.
Scarborough fair vibes
"Unfinished Sympathy" ending strings arrangement
Your composition was dreamlike and ethereal. I have listened to it over and over. So lovely.
I want to thank you Rick. I really did not understand anything about music theory after so many years of playing guitar, until I discovered your channel. Thank you for everything!