Dirty RV Secret - Dumping the Black Tank WITHOUT A Sewer Hook Up!
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- Can you dump your waste tanks at HOME? We show you anyone can dump at home with a few simple products in this video.
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Maybe by pushing the hose past the trap in the toilet should be best. You will need a short piece of hose without the brass end on it to make it easier to insert it. Good thing about this method, no smell 😂
Exactly, just cut the end off one of the hoses, not like you'll use it for anything else!! LOL!
Tried that, made no difference the one time we tried it..
One option instead of the toilet is most homes connected to a municipal sewer have a clean out access point in the sewer line. This clean out is usually similar to the PVC access cap you showed to a septic tank. I have used our macerator and dumped our motor home several times into our clean out without any issues. Our clean out is located outside of our home so easy access, this may not be the case for all though.
We use the cleanout that is closest to the street. I asked the city if this is legal and they ran it up the food chain and came back with affirmative. The logic is that the water in the black tank has been metered somewhere so a municipality has been paid for the water.
@@drmack911 waste water is not "metered" per se, the cost for waste is typically applied by the water utility as a multiple on the water consumed.
I ran a split off my clean out about 15' to make a permanent connection point adjacent to the driveway. Fortunately it was all downhill.
@@PeteFolksinger be careful doing this cities are not good about maintiance notifications if they are doing cleaning in sewer line the pressure from the cleaning trucks water system could cause damage to a rigs plumbing “ sometimes even homes if the vent stack has issues” I do sewer cleaning and inspections and have seen issues multiple time ls with homes. When we work in Rv parks we close valves on peoples rigs during the cleaning process
@@spoolin55psi this is not something I leave hooked up. My rig has macerator pump, so only use my personal dump station when emptying black tank or gray tank
The visual of you pressing the macerater button and the “stream” erupting from your rig was hysterical !!!!
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When I used my FlowJet (the older one that shuts off to cool) I stuck the garden hose not only into the toilet but pushed it in further so it was on the other side of the toilet trap, this way it does not fill the bowel and smell up the bathroom. Worked for me.
Good to know!
I was going to say that. Hose should be well down the toilet pipe. Having a clean out is so much easier.
Your videos are informational and humorous. Have a safe and enjoyable journey.
Thanks for watching! Safe travels to you as well :)
We had a dump station installed at our house. Core drilled through the foundation and tapped into out sewage line. Works great.
Nice mod!
We had someone staying in our trailer for a short time and we used a macerator to dump straight into our septic. I wouldn’t dream of doing it in the house. Friend / relative or enemy. 😂
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After watching this great tutorial, I'm thinking I would prefer a camping toilet that you go in a bag and immediately throw it away! LOL I don't have an RV but hope to some day. Thanks for your tips!
Check out cassette toilets.
We started doing this, and love it. Don't have to go out of our way to a dump station (they're rarely conveniently located for us), wait in line for up to an hour (we're weekend warriors, mostly), and pay $8-$10 (that's what most charge, near us).
This way we can go straight home and I can dump while my wife puts stuff away. I can also take my time to thoroughly flush the black tank, without the pressure of holding up the line behind me.
Loved the video. Two additional comments. First, I think you can buy simple screw on plastic caps to seal up the 3/4” hose after you have drained it.
The second is for camping when you have no sewer connection and have to use a honey wagon tote. The basic idea is to fill the tote and tow it to the dump station…. At a crawl. A lot of campers have trailers and a hefty tow vehicle. Don’t struggle pulling the wagon away from the camper. Put the empty wagon in your truck or tow vehicle and fill it using the macerator. Now you can drive a bit faster to the dump and the extra height will more quickly drain the tank.
Great suggestions - thanks for watching
Instead of buying plastic caps, simply connect both ends of the hose together. This is especially important for your potable water hose as it helps keep it sanitary.
I have this exact pump and I have installed it permanently. I only need a 3/4" hose every day. No more 4". I just strap the black 25ft hose under the chasssis
Nice!
Great video, Charity and Ben! Our coach was optioned with a macerator which I have used occasionally to empty and flush both waste tanks into our septic tank. When camping with full hookups we just use the sewer hose with gravity dump. The only problem I found with the macerator, as you have noted, is that it seems to have a limited run time before it overheats and stops working. The first time this happened I thought it broke, but waited a few minutes and it was working again. Probably a thermal issue, but really, in my opinion, these things aren't designed right if that is the case. Very important to properly maintain your RV's waste tanks, especially the black tank. I always keep the black tank with some fresh water in it, about 25%, and add some treatment to it.
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Great video guys. You got me when Ben was showing the battery connection and ZAP sound came out. I nearly dropped my phone. 😂 Good one!
This would be great for when our camper is used as our guest house! Thanks!
Thanks for watching
Purchasing my first RV next month so doing all the research I can. I keep coming across your videos and they are so entertaining and informational. Thank you!
Happy to hear Flojet upgraded their motor. I’ve owned 2 and both had failed motors. I found an alternate brand that hasn’t failed yet but isn’t as nice as the Flojet.
You should push the hose into the toilet so it is past the p-trap portion. No smell or gagging needed.
Good to know for next time!
Think I'm happy to have a cassette toilet. 😊
many houses have sewer clean out ports (even if they dont have septic tank). Find that and pump into the port. Basically you are pumping into the pipe that the toilet water flows through out from house. It is the size of a dump station port so hose goes in easy. Look for it in your front yard. If you have two choose the one that pumps towards the street side.
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I do this all the time in Europe with my 35ft Airstream motorhome, Thetford casette dumping is the norm here and usually there are dumping pedestals to make that job easier. So I use a macerator pump to pump upward into the pedestal. I use a clear angle so I can see when black is done when washing it out with gray.
I just love you two!! Bless your hearts
For making this video! Very helpful, more than you know!!
Just starting the process of learning all these RV 'need to knows' and this was fairly easy to understand, wow I'm learning that managing the dump tanks is key. So thanks? Yes, thanks!
I’ve never been more excited to see a 💩 video! We was considering doing another $1k in work to be able to dump easier to our sewer, but THIS will get us by much easier!! Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for watching!
Unique tank products are the best I've been using them for years and they aren't harmful to the environment. Awesome job on the video👍✌️
This is the only option we have for our permanent RV spot. We have a city sewer stub 300 feet away but I would not pump the black tank that far. Every 2 weeks or so, I use my macerator pump, plug it into my cars 12v, and pump into a home made 55 gal blue barrel on a cart from Harbor Freight and hand pull it over to the dump pipe. It works.
I rarely give a thumbs down on a video and maybe it should be a thumbs up for what NOT to do. We tried this method years ago when camped for a week at my sister's house. Thank goodness they were gone for the day because OMG it stunk up their whole house, despite open bathroom window, vent on door closed. I was mortified!!!! It did dissipate after a couple hours (they got home after ) but I will NEVER do this at anyone's house but my own, and then that wouldn't be my first choice.
PRO TIP: I didn't read down, I'm sure someone else commented on this already but here goes anyway.
Since the toilet has a "P" trap in it and no valves, you can feed in about a foot of hose into the toilet and get it past the P-Trap and you won't have any of those smells. Oh and since that's now the "POOPER DOOPER HOSE" she'll want to use gloves too, just sayin.
Just put the hose into the outside house sewer clean-out tap and then when you are done dumping just run some fresh water down the drain with your garden hose.
i love our flojet,
one person job with a blink camera(live view on phone) , and something to hold seat down to hold hose in place
ALSO ALWAYS put the hose end as far as possible in the toilet. it will keep the smells under water and also gravity flushes automatically and before any stuff comes back into toilet
awesome job though making a not so fun video entertaining and fun !!
Thanks for the info and thanks for watching
We use a macerator pump and a Camco Rhino on a golf cart as we live full time at my parents - don’t regret buying it - unique makes the best products
That was a very brave and useful video. Thank you
Thanks for watching
I actually have one and a hose and put a inlet on my house that’s plumbed into the sewer to make it easy. I back in and one hose fills my fresh and one dumps (different hoses of course haha)
Love our Macerator. I always tell people to be nice to me or I'll give them a whole new meaning to TPing your house.
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I did something similar to my actual septic tank by adding a RV septic house adapter at my house, then I got wiser and switched out my RV toilet with a compositing tiolet, and I use a mylar bag "to hide the smell" and two extra trash bags so I can just tie off the bags and put it into black trash cans, it's quicker and no one knows.
We bought one of then 2 yes ago, love it. Much easier to dump. We dump 100ft at a 3 ft incline with no problem. But we dump in our clean out on the outside of or home.
Ben; We have a vastly different conception of what a "fun part" constitutes!
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You guys are so fun! Thank you for making this informative and entertaining video 😃
Thanks for watching
We dump at home from time to time. We have a clean out for our sewer line so we open it up and hook up to that trap like you would at a dump station at the camp ground.
Yes, that is how we usually do it as well (much better way)!
Back in the bad old days what was commonly done was after you break camp
and packup to head for home we would crack the black tank valve juuuuuuuuust
a little to get a dribble going then hit the road. When you pulled into your driveway
at home, empty tank.
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I did the same thing at my home. I was paranoid the whole time that the hose may slip out of the toilet. After I was done, I used some disinfecting bathroom cleaner on the pump and flushed through the hose. Kills any residual smell.
Nice video. Thanks for sharing. ❤
Interesting - but, wouldn't do this - would just try to find dump station.
gets into the ground water/can and does get out and ruins your water table/ground water source can be almost permanently ruined by any spills into the ground, it all goes into the well water. Black or grey. Too many chemicals in those old pipes/tanks lethally toxic and impossible to remove from the ground/well water table. My trailer has no tanks, love it! Tupperware is the best solution, cheap and safe, never use any chemicals.
Well....lol....so happy I wasn't eating chili dogs or chocolate pudding while watching! Very informative though! I think I would rather open up and drive down the highway! Lol....dump stations are actually fun I'm finding out! Lol....a video that you learn from someone else's mistake! You guys are great!
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!!! Just like plumbing trap under sink... cut metal end off hose, and it will fit bending up and over the water trap to the actual sewer drain at bottom of toilet keeping the water in trap will keep smell back and the view unless you pull hose back into the bowl.
Yeah I'll just drive it the 7 miles to the Love's station and dump but thank you 🤣
If you or your friends house has a front clean out plug go directly into the sewer i used my daughters to dump blue tank which was only about a 15 foot run it was just up hill.
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You guys are my RV gurus by the way😅
Put the hose in the sewer clean out ports rather than in a toilet. 12:14 you could be a regular Robin Williams 15:13
Very entertaining video! You guys really had me rolling! I can see me asking my wife to hold a Poo hose and running it into our house toilet! through a window no doubt! 😂I think you guys did a good job explaining a nasty (no pun intended) subject. I'll stick to running it into a cleanout outside. Great job! Don in Florida
Thanks for watching!
I use the Unique also. It really does work well.
If u do it in a toilet just cut the end off the hose so u don’t scratch the bowl and shove the hose in so it goes around the u bend and the water doesn’t even go in the bowl, right into sewer….
Ben you are the "master of poopy" and I mean that in the nicest way.
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You need to dump it in the clean-out trap at your house every house has one outside of a wall just above the ground level, this is what plumbers use to clean out your house pipes to the street.
Maybe using the "Poo-Pourri" first since you had the hose under the waterline
Good idea
This was a great video! I have one snd they work great!
I always use the mouth suction method to start the siphon, be sure to wipe off the outside of the hose and pay attention. At times it takes a couple of tries. Good luck, it’s best to train your wife or kids this process.
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It would be a brilliant idea to have an outside clean out installed on your house with a removeable cap then pump the waste down it wile running clean water in the house like drain a bathtub of water slowly or wile someone is taking a shower.
Just open the cap put in your hose turn on the pump as this is going someone is actually using water inside the house this extra water should help keep your sewage lines from cloging up and moving freely.
Should you have some blockage in your sewage lines say on an older home with clay sewage lines and tree roots. If its kept a liquid insted of solids its going to move a lot smoother but if you do have a blockage problem then a clean out will keep a plumber from snaking inside the house so its a win win.
Ive never had to have this done but im sure its a shitty mess.
If you can afford a 250k dollar motor home you can afford to do this too. And you'll probably wanna keep this crap out of your house.
You could also fit the system with a proper sewage drain hookup. And a hose fausset close by. In case you need it then put down lawn lime to kill the germs only use a powered form used for concrete construction its called hydrated lime. Lime you put on your grass is pellets that desolves slowly
Hydrated lime works extremly fast. It will also kill any oder.
Reason i know this i had a sewage line break and went unfixed for a long time before i knew about it.
I had to do something to make the groud safe and kill the bad bacteria
Hydrated lime does this. Wear a mask you do not want to breath it.
Lime beds were used in homes if you used well water from under your home. It kept the soil clean of bacteria.
Mood docking hahaha😂
Have you guys thought about putting a rv hook ups at your house? A friend of mine did it with a small septic system it cost him 1K. He said the power hook up was the most expensive part.
We have the electric hook up although we no longer need it with the solar set up. We’re actually using the RV to power some things in the house instead of the other way around!
@@GratefulGlamper that is awesome next thing put one of those new lifetime roofs on and put solar on your roof with Tesla wall batteries. One of my Army buddies did it after loosing power in his home last year for a month then had rolling blackouts for another month. He said it’s amazing rarely uses grid power anymore
I actually tied My line right into the washer line in the house and put a shut off so it can't feed back. Works great. Just takes longer to flush it.
Good idea!
I have no idea what your talking about I didn't smell a thing. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣
"If you let her fling, it's not a good thing." 🤣🤣 Charity, you didn't lose your Texas T-shirt did you? Haven't seen it in a while. As for Ben's shirt...love it...despite being totally let down by SpaceX the past two nights out in Titusville. I am jealous by the way. I "get" to bring my Class B marine toilet tank inside tomorrow to empty it. It always splashes 🤮
Still have the Texas shirt! Thanks for watching 😉
I do this all the time. Just need to get the hose past the trap.
Any time you're connecting water to waste, you need to use a vacuum breaker, which needs to be higher than your fixtures. Dump stations already have vacuum breakers on the top of the pole connecting to the rinse water. Using a hose at home or at a full hookup site with a vacuum breaker up high does the same thing, but make sure that any hose from the vacuum breaker to the waste tanks is never to be used for drinking water. Sincerely, your friendly neighborhood, licensed plumber.
Poo pipes should be flexible or an optional upgrade
I was boondocking on the beach in TX and nomads weee dumping black water into the Gulf of Mexico . They did it at night when it’s dark and when questioned told me it was Grey water.? I think it’s pretty common practice ….whatever works I guess
Very cool product for sure! Thanks for sharing this info and video😊……Lisa ( The Wingman’s wife)
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This product is cool but it's a lot of hose and extra electric connections with a second person would bring to much attention to you
our house has a sewer clean out port that is only 4 feet from street in our yard. It is better to use those if you have them. So we can just use a macerated hose which looks like a mini sticky slinky hose rather than a regular hose.
Suggestion... leave your dump valve open 1/4 way between stops. Its gone, like magic!
That's what all the city-campers do in L.A. and Portland, so it must be good!
Nice job. Agree with using sewer cleanout as first choice. Now my question. I found the tank cleaning products you show at 12:07 in the video, but deciding which to use is ...? Did you post another video? If not, do you have a suggestion of where to look. There web site is lacking this detail.
We use the drop in pods called RV Digest it
I could pull the slide in and raise jacks and drive to a dump station and dump tanks faster than this. I don’t get the up side of this option. Or just use a portable tank dump and take that to the dump station with a pickup.
We started doing this, and love it. Don't have to go out of our way to a dump station (they're rarely conveniently located for us), wait in line for up to an hour (we're weekend warriors, mostly), and pay $10 (that's what most charge, near us).
This way we can go straight home and I can dump while my wife puts stuff away. I can also take my time to thoroughly flush the black tank, without the pressure of holding up the line behind me.
I thought that’s what the street drain was for. Know what I mean Clarke?😅
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You can rinse that hose out too..
Isn't the macerator the coolest invention? LOL We got one early on into our full-time status (June 2022) as we were boondocking in someone's backyard/field (Hip Camp situation). It is great for pumping up into the bed of the truck, into the poop wagon. I would not recommend towing your poop wagon off the back of a hitch though. The wheels/axle really don't hold up well at all. Charity, you really got the sh@tty end of the deal, huh? LOL
I think I would prefer to dump it into the waste line instead of the toilet but it did make for great content!
I (Charity) totally got the 💩end 😂 Thanks for watching
The secret is to change out the wheels in the wagon. Got this advice early on… game changer.
@@cherylreynolds2672 I didn't realize you could d that. Must be something at Lowes to make the swap, huh? lol
@@WestsontheMove I got it off of someone else’s TH-cam video. 😉
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Black tanks hold around 30 gallons. Toilet bowls hold at the most 1 gallon, add water used to get it to work and how are you not going to overflow in your bathroom. No way I would do that into any house. If there’s access to a septic tank that would be ok but not in my house. Use the macerator to make using the blue trolly better but not in a house.
Pour water from a pitcher into your toilet bowl... it won't overflow. Gravity ;-)
you should find a sewage clean out in your yard so you dont have to go inside!! thats what i do.
9:56 here’s when black tank comes out
Nice job god bless
You don’t use Matt’s Liquified? All the test show it is good stuff
We don’t, only the unique products
how do you identify this newer model over previous? is there a different model #?
Why wouldn't you just dump in a regular dump area before heading home? I mean, this maybe makes sense if you have someone staying on your property in the RV, but stopping at a stop before going home to drain your tanks normally seems better to me and the garden hoses wouldn't be contaminated with tank waste. To me this seems extra and costly and to have to keep these hoses separated and not used for the garden or any other purposes seems a bit over the top for a $5 dump fee to be easily covered on your way home.
Depends on access to a dump station, etc. after boondocking or using the RV as a guest house.
We started doing this, and love it. Don't have to go out of our way to a dump station (they're rarely conveniently located for us), wait in line for up to an hour (we're weekend warriors, mostly), and pay $10 (that's what most charge, near us).
This way we can go straight home and I can dump while my wife puts stuff away. I can also take my time to thoroughly flush the black tank, without the pressure of holding up the line behind me.
Shove the hose past the trap in the toilet and you won't smell anything.
Cut the end off at an angle..
Push the hose past the S trap in the toilet. No smell this way and one person can run it this way.
Good to know!
Just use your sewer cleanout, it's the same thing as a dump site.
Common sense would say , make more rvs with cassette toilets, up to 10 gallons, with spare cassette ,especially class bs and c
How would this work if you’re emptying into a house toilet that’s on septic? Wouldn’t the chemicals be harmful to the bugs in the septic system?
Not the unique brand of tank treatments as they are all septic friendly and formaldehyde free.
I can’t imagine doing this to someone’s house..🤢🤢🤢
It would certainly need to be a REALLY good friend 😂
Ben’s a poet, but he don’t know it, feet don’t show it, even though they’re Longfellows. 🤣🤣
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I’ve never heard the words “fresh and clean” used when discussing black tanks.
Lol it's a mini muffin muncher.
interesting to know that this is possible....but i'm too scared😂. poo under pressure kinda terrifies me
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Dont do this if you have a siptic system the chemicals you put in your black tank could be harmful to the helpful bacteria in the septic tank and leach field
.and cause a big problem to your septic system. Very very expensive. However if you know that you can dump your black tank every day or so there is no need to add chemicals. If you have town sewer it's all good 👍 just be aware it's not legal everywhere also just .. . use the clean out if you can you should test your hoses for leaks and make sure you mark these hoses non potable.
We use the products from Unique Camping + Marine which are septic safe and formaldehyde free.
We just use the ditch at the end of the street.
Did you have to keep flushing the toilet during this process?
I did flush the toilet just a few times. You do not have to keep flushing however.
@@GratefulGlamper My husband just informed me that toilets will flush automatically when filling. That’s why you can pour a bucket of water in there and it will flush if your water is shut off. Learn something new every day
Do y’all prefer this macerator/hose for normal dumping stations? Seems like it would be a lot less space for hoses and such than the typical gravity kind…but a LOT to carry around if you kept both types. Not a critique; but a genuine question. 😂
This is definitely not the preferable method (as we mentioned in the video) but doable in a pinch or moochdocking scenario.
@@GratefulGlamper To be clear, I’m not asking about the toilet, but the macerator/hose into a dump station. :)
Omg he made me jump!
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Butt connectors?