"He would play golf with the man but wouldn't have dinner with him, which is the most cutting insult in a native Georgian's arsenal." I nearly choked on my lunch over that line.
You know, with all these references to "nobody can come back from 28-3," "nobody can come back from being down 25 points," and "nobody can come back that much with an aging quarterback," I'm starting to suspect that this is some sort of foreshadowing, or something...
This is an Alex Rubinstein appreciation post, he worked really hard on this along with Jon, I know we all love Jon, and I do too, but let’s give some love to the man who co-founded our favourite fan-based sports series.
You are right. Alex & Jon have great chemistry and I don't notice a drop-off when he takes over the narrative. It seems like Alex is great at research and doing statistic deep dives, while Jon is A++ at establishing the video's theme.
@@vsauce4678 7 points eh?.....kind of like Tom's 7 Lombardi's. And if Brady's SBLI MVP bothers you that much, you can pretend he didn't get that one....He has 4 other Pete Rozelle trophy's anyway.
@@SimuLord and now that Tom Brady's called it a career, DeBerg's record remains intact. 😀 Though Brady did set the record for oldest QB to start and win the game.
"The Oilers had gone 7-9 and 8-8 over the last two seasons with Chris Chandler under center. With such mediocrity unacceptable to coach Jeff Fisher..." That's such an underrated joke.
That Eugene Robinson buildup was absolute perfection knowing what was coming. This series is incredible. You have the amazing ability to get me invested in teams like the Mariners and Falcons, both of which I’ve not really interacted negatively or positively in my life.
I really never got into the history of football or other teams (outside of my eagles) and when the Eugene Robinson incident came up my jaw was on the floor this is such a great series.
@@jpmnky Soliciting for sex isn't a problem, cheating isn't that big of a problem. Sexual assault is the problem and he didn't do that. He'd have been fine. The other player in this series who assaulted his wife would have been done though.
Man, the Falcons will win a Super Bowl eventually. It may be long after all of us are long gone, but it’s gonna happen. As heartbreaking as LI had to be for Falcons fans, I’m willing to wager that XLIII was even worse for Cardinals fans. At least the Falcons have some very good years half the time. The Cardinals have played maybe 10 playoff games. Ever. And they come as close as you possibly can without actually winning it all. Just my take on 28-3.
@@jpmnky falcons have come much much closer lol. literally a run playcall would’ve won them the game. and the cardinals did it to themselves with the james harrison pick six
@@tylerwhitehorn5365 yeah... if they'd tried AT ALL to manage the clock, slow the game down, and just run through it, they could have held on. it was heartbreaking watching them keep calling pass plays when the solution was obvious
@@tylerwhitehorn5365 they didnt even have to run. Some dude on youtube did a video that shows that if the falcons would have taken a knee every play and ran the clock out they would have won
Honestly not sure I could watch this if I were a Falcon fan. As a Seahawks fan I still haven't watched anything from SB XLIX and they actually have a title which makes it a little less rough.
To this day I have never watched SB XLVIII where the Broncos were humiliated and two years later we still won a title. Watching this series from the perspective of a Falcons fan must be extremely sad.
@@jeffanderson3962 As a Seahawks fan I live three truths: Having to explain to everyone that the fail mary was caught by Tate, legitimately. Having to explain that the INT that shall not be named was much better statistically than handing it to Lynch. Having the memory of our SB loss overshadowed by the Falcons' choke job of a lifetime.
I’m studying for digital media production in collage currently and I came back to series for this reason. This is one of the best documentaries I’ve seen and it’s entirely animated in adobe after affects! It’s amazing to see what they were able to do with a small team and one program.
"and [the vikings], as of 2020, have never won a superbowl. but, that's a story for another time." no, actually, you don't need to tell anybody that story. it's fine.
@@ianalex9062 1961. Vikes did win the 1969 NFL Championship, but since they lost Super Bowl IV, that gets a big old asterisk next to "Championship Wins". An amusing thing for Philly was that that win in 1960 was the only post-season defeat for Vince Lombardi, so it's said that until 2017 they were cursed never to hold the trophy bearing his name.
Would say the same for the Mariners and the Cavaliers... Not even a fan either of these team at all but these guys just consistently make premium content. They make you give a damn about teams that you normally wouldn't.
12:37 Damn dude. Jamal Anderson put down a HOF defensive lineman with a right jab and was strong enough to immediately reload and mush Corey Fuller’s face like he was little bro.
I have to say as someone who didn't know about the Eugene Robsinson situation I had no idea it was coming and how it was revealed with the music and how that section of the video was playing out was absolutely chilling and shocking. The way Jon muttered "Noooo" was exactly how I actually felt
@@Donald38 I don't think it should be limited to teams that have never won a championship. I think it's more about having stories to tell that are interesting because they are weird, unusual, funny, dumb, relatable etc. If success and championships were the deciding factor, they wouldn't have done a series on Dave Stieb, who won a World Series ring with the Blue Jays and did accomplish his career-long goal of pitching a no-hitter. There are teams that have won at least one championship that would still make great Dorktown stories IMO.
Morten Andersen is my new hero. Going from 'knowing nothing about football' to 'force of nature football player' is a career trajectory most of us can only imagine.
He just happened to be lucky that there is a kicking mechanic in football that played to an ability he has. It sounds more impressive the way they explained it than it really is. The field goal is one the easiest concepts of football.
@@Drogon7102 I get some of what you're saying, but that said, his longevity and accuracy is without parallel. He's one of only two placekickers to be in the HOF - not even Gary Anderson is in the HOF. I don't think he's overrated or overstated here in this mini-doc.
The description of that Super Bowl feels a lot like last year's Bucs/Chiefs one. From the box score, it's a stomp and uneventful, but in game it was sooo close to actually turning around. But never actually did
It’s a perfect example of “the scoreboard doesn’t tell the whole story”. That super bowl could’ve gone down as one of the all time classics if the Falcons had converted more of their opportunities. It had all the makings of a shootout like super bowl 52 except one team converted their chances and the other (who arguably created more chances) didn’t.
As a Vikings fan who wasn't even old enough to remember the 98 team, I was dreading the footage of the missed field goal. As Jon alluded too, I hope a history of the Vikings comes some day. This series is too fantastic.
@Fries for better or worse, some athletes are defined by that 'one' moment. Mark Sanchez's butt fumble. Byron Russell and defending Michael Jordan. John Carney's missed PAT in 2003. So while it does suck that Gary Anderson's brilliance as "Mr. Perfect" gets forgotten due to missing that one kick, it's unsurprising.
You just knew Super Bowl XXXIII was going to be a disaster when Dan Reeves and Terance Mathis got into an argument a week before the game on how the team was going to get off of the plane after touching down in Miami. It probably wasn't the worst week ever by a team leading up to a Super Bowl (Oakland at Super Bowl XXXVII with the team revolting against Bill Callahan and the Barret Robbins incident probably takes the crown), but between the plane incident and Eugene Robinson, this has to be a close second
Also, Callahan swapping the game plan from a run heavy emphasize (taking advantage of the raiders OLine size) to pass heavy (Tampa's strength) the night before was quite awful.
When Eugene Robinson was arrested the night before the super bowl and got smoked by Rod Smith, I wanted to laugh but held it in and thinking red Foxx voice:Eugene Robinson u big dummy lol..
@Fries absolutely yes…Dan Reeves was also a mentor to Mike Vick…I recall watching ESPN 30 for 30 Vick, Dan Reeves had to give mike some tough love after hearing about two of his friends getting arrested for transporting weed in his car in 2004……
We really don't need it, honestly. It's fine. Nobody needs to hear all the details of the Vikings' agony. Why, yes, I'm from Minnesota, how'd you know? (Though real talk, I'd rather have Jon and Alex tell that story than most anyone else. Everyone else likes to just mock Minnesota. Jon and Alex always approach these things with respect.)
As a Viking fan, it was clear to me Vikings were the obvious other choice for Dorktown NFL team. Ever since 7 year old me cried when Gary Fucking Anderson decided to miss, they've been an intriguing, if not infinitely frustrating team. And they were even more tortured before I was born. In some ways, it was the more obvious story, and I think they did well to avoid it. Sidenote, the Suns will be the NBA team of choice if/when they visit the NBA.
@@pwndnoob4937 you think the Suns would be the most interesting/cursed NBA team to have a multi-part series? Hmm. I mean at least they've had a couple of Finals appearances and the 7SOL team with Mike D'Antoni and Steve Nash. But a Dorktown series wouldn't be a "Collapse" or "Untitled" episode, so it's not all fails and close calls. I kinda wonder if the Clippers would be a good subject. mostly though they've just been straight awful for 30 years (draft busts, Sterling's interference, etc.). I'd love to see some deep dives into their 2006 playoffs run and Lob City onwards (maybe a Collapse episode?), not sure if it would be a Dorktwon series though.
The Atlanta Falcons may not have won Super Bowl XXXIII, but at least one of their own was a champion that year: Bill Goldberg, University of Georgia graduate and former Falcons defensive tackle from 1992-1994, reigned as the World Heavyweight Champion of Atlanta-based World Championship Wrestling from July 6 to December 27 of 1998, the apex of his now-legendary year-and-a-quarter long undefeated streak.
That transition at the 30:30 mark, transitioning into the super bowl, right after mentioning the Vikings and their lack of a super bowl being a story for another time. You guys deserve so much credit for the amazing quality of these. I could watch and listen to you dissect the history of every team and not get bored. I hope you get some excellent success.
I was a snot nosed elementary schooler living in Wyoming when the Broncos were hot in the late 90s. All I remember about Elway is that I liked the name. Everyone was talking about him, I have a distinct out-of-context memory of his name being written on the board by a teacher. When the '99 super bowl happened, everyone was thrilled, and I was thinking, "good for the Broncos, good for John Elway."
Obviously, 1998 was a special year for the Falcons since that was when they first made it to the Super Bowl. However, there is one thing that the 1998 Falcons did that still amazes me, because I have never seen another team do it. They were playing the Saints (and I don't remember if the game was in ATL or NO), but they took the 2nd half kickoff and drove the ball down the field 80 yards for a touchdown. Almost all of the plays were Jamal Anderson runs. The Falcons then kicked off, and the Saints finally got the ball for the first time in the 3rd Qtr with JUST 2:30 REMAINING! Think about that! You're the Saints, and you don't get the ball in the 2nd half until almost the start of the 4th Qtr! WOW, just amazing.
I’m a Vikings fan in Minnesota but was also raised a Broncos fan by my dad who’s from Colorado. The 1998 season is so weirdly conflicting for that reason, but as heartbreaking as the Vikings loss was it still came to a satisfying end in the Super Bowl. The Broncos were just finishing off the Falcons like the Vikings couldn’t, and after going through the playoffs expecting to face the Vikings at the end of it, they got to have a little fun with a team that really shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
That is the best way to put it, the Falcons put their all in a David vs Goliath story for the championship game. Then, completely exhausted and beaten down they would have had to beat yet another Goliath. My frustration isn't even fully with my Vikings not going to the Superbowl, I felt like we had been robbed of possibly one of the greatest Superbowls ever and were instead given the Broncos playing around with a chewtoy for 60 minutes.
@@MrMistiesOne issue I see with Minnesota if they played Denver though: Their run defense might’ve been questionable if they lost to Atlanta and Tampa Bay, and that run defense would’ve faced Terrell Davis, and a very good zone blocking offensive line scheme. They still could’ve easily put up a closer game than Atlanta did, but I don’t know if they’d win because of that matchup.
@@Tytoalba777And it was a good story. One team is generally unsuccessful throughout its history (the only period in the history of the Falcons where they sustained success for more than a couple years is the 2008-2017 range). Whereas the Vikings as the chart in that series showed at the end of part 5 are the last team that: A: Has been around since before the first Super Bowl was played. B: Has not won a Super Bowl. And C: Is significantly above .500 in the regular season in aggregate. And they’ve been that way since the Rams won Super Bowl 34.
As a Vikings fan, it’s hard to gauge whether this one broke my heart more than any woman ever could (I see you Alex) or 2009. But y’all have done such an amazing job with this I have to watch it. Side note: PLEASE cover the Vikings next or if you go to the NBA side of things? The LA Clippers.
I can’t wait for the part that’s gonna show the team that made me a falcons fan. Matt Ryan, Roddy White, Michael Turner, Julio, Jon Abraham and lil later Tony G.
@@RockinRobb01 It is the Georgia curse. UGA lost to Alabama in the same endzone/building in a similar situation just a month or so earlier. Whoever won that game won the right to beat up on Notre Dame for the national championship.
The 98 NFC championship still tears me apart as a Vikings fan. Can’t wait until you do a Minnesota sports video series, our misery deserves recognition!
I'm currently struggling with some anxiety, and Jon's and Alex storytelling is so soothing, so well done, that I try to pause this video to really enjoy the story I'm being told. Even though I was fully aware of the Deion/Eugene/Morten Anderson stories, I still was hanging on every word because this is so well told. Never stop doing it.
Damn, yall made this series so engaging and entertaining that I forgot it was about the ATLANTA FALCONS, THE TEAM THAT MIKE VICK WORE ON HIS JERSEY. WHAT THE FUCK IS COMING IN THESE LAST 2 EPISODES?! The energy you guys delivered so far has been incredible and infectious. Long Live Secret Base
Masterpiece. I had to pause a few times to take breath and reflect. This really is an incredible story. (I am Italian and used to watch a lot of football in the nineties)
At 26:34, Alex says it veers 6 inches left. In the Vikings doc that came out today, when they're talking about this game from the Vikings perspective he says it veers 9 inches left. 69, Gemini, the Yin and the Yang
Next chapter: the Michael Vick years and their playoff woes In the famous words of UrinatingTree: only a brick wall could stop you, its name is the Eagles
This video series is so fucking amazing. As a 49er fan I appreciate all the subtle connections and nods so much. This video already had 4 connections before you mentioned Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan’s father who coached the two losing superbowl Falcons and Niners in the last decade. Crazy how intertwined the Niners and Falcons history is.
I hope so. That team is amongst the most fascinating in the NFL. It even has the thread, like the Seattle Mariners, of constantly being on the brink of moving. The team threatened more than once to move to Birmingham.
With my birthday having been on January 31st, 1999, I've been looking very much forward to this episode to really get to the context of the super bowl that's always been the fun fact I've spouted at parties. I have not been disappointed.
"can't come back from 28-3" and "too mediocre for Jeff Fisher" jokes aside, can we talk about the fact that in the 2 years preceding and following Super Bowl XVI, the Bengals and 49ers had a combined .395 winning percentage.
This series along with your Mariners one are honestly some of the most astounding story-lines that I hadn't the faintest idea had existed and has added so much to my enjoyment of sports. Some of the best laughs and most magical moments (I still re-watch Blowers' pre-game home run prediction). It has definitely made me really appreciate the underappreciated teams and magical moments they have. Now that I actually look out for those types of things so far I've noticed how the Bears seem utterly unable to have anyone successfully throw a football for them, how the Twolves and Kings could have assembled a superteam from their missed draft choices over the last 20ish years (let alone the combination of narcissism and delusion by their front offices to believe in their own utterly terrible decisions), the Clippers entire existence and how for the longest time the best thing they had going for them was their announcer, the Vikings numerous ups and downs, and why there is a team called the Jazz playing in a place that could only be described as the literal absence of jazz music. I also think that an entire history of the Sixers might be a really good one to consider for a next in depth one. They've got so many ups and downs, from Wilt's struggles as his entire team vs a perennial superteam of hall of famers in the Celtics, how they put it together to finally win one, the ensuing collapse afterwards, the Dawkins years, the Dr J years, Moses Malone's arrival, Barkley and Malone early years, Barkley forcing his way out and them collapsing again, the AI years, them re-inventing the idea of a collapse with the process, then missing on so many picks with the only one that has truly worked (ie a top 5 pick producing a player actually involved in the MVP conversation) being a guy who spent his first two years so injured that people literally had no idea what to expect when Embiid finally played. Plus in Philly you have a team and city constantly at odds with their own organization (can we forget their GM creating burner accounts solely to talk shit on their own players), but where they somehow are unwavering in their love for the team (albeit often showing that love with a chorus of boos). I say all this and I'm not even a Sixers fan I just think they're a fascinating look into how beautifully illogical the human psyche can become when there is a passion for sports. Anyway love these series to the point that I look forward to these more than any movie or tv show release! Thanks for taking the time to do these, I can only imagine how much time it would take to put these together.
Those game graphs are really cool. Not even a Vikings fan, but that NFC Championship still makes me sigh. That was such a badass roster. Just for the Falcons to get destroyed in the super bowl.
“The score is 28-3. Nobody can come back from that, especially with an aging quarterback.” 😭
I had to let out a sad, melancholy, angry chuckle. I wish to hell it hadn’t happened.
I laughed so hard when he said that... Lol
Hehe I was looking for this comment
That hurt... so bad...
There's another one at 43:56
"He would play golf with the man but wouldn't have dinner with him, which is the most cutting insult in a native Georgian's arsenal."
I nearly choked on my lunch over that line.
Slapshoes? You find TH-camrs from everywhere in these comments
You know, with all these references to "nobody can come back from 28-3," "nobody can come back from being down 25 points," and "nobody can come back that much with an aging quarterback," I'm starting to suspect that this is some sort of foreshadowing, or something...
Yeah it really makes you wonder
the way Alex being so subtle with dropping them makes you appreciate it even more too
Maybe they're setting up for a game where the Falcons really DO come back from that!
@@jmandawgfan2533 That has to be it! There’s no other option!
@@jmandawgfan2533 I mean it has to be, if not then why would they mention that score that much in a Falcons series?
"He was efficient which is a compliment you give your furnace." Had me rolling
Same here lol 😂
This is an Alex Rubinstein appreciation post, he worked really hard on this along with Jon, I know we all love Jon, and I do too, but let’s give some love to the man who co-founded our favourite fan-based sports series.
This almost reads as if Alex fuckin died or some shit.
A legend since uffsides. Sorry to blow up that small lil community but that series is iconic
Hell yeah, love Alex. Smart guy who's incredibly entertaining.
You are right. Alex & Jon have great chemistry and I don't notice a drop-off when he takes over the narrative. It seems like Alex is great at research and doing statistic deep dives, while Jon is A++ at establishing the video's theme.
I… Agree!
Still laughing at “very special airplane man.”
Spent a solid 30 minutes watching just waiting for the Eugene Robinson bomb to drop. Best Super Bowl memory ever.
I hope the “with such mediocrely unacceptable to Jeff Fisher” joke doesn’t go unappreciated
just as happy to see this comment as i was to hear the joke
without this comment I would’ve completely missed it
Titans fan since 99 here. That joke goes FULLY appreciated.
I think that for every 8 people that do catch that joke, there will be 8 that don't.
I'm laughing at that because as a Titans fan, granted, it was near the end of his reign, I found it hilarious.
30:04 Hey welcome, glad you all made the trip back here. How's everyone been?
“They found themselves down 28-3, and no one can come back from that, let alone with an aging quarterback.”
oh how i love this show
They weren’t lying James white was the real Super Bowl mvp he didn’t give the Falcons 7 points
@@vsauce4678 7 points eh?.....kind of like Tom's 7 Lombardi's.
And if Brady's SBLI MVP bothers you that much, you can pretend he didn't get that one....He has 4 other Pete Rozelle trophy's anyway.
“Andersen played roughly seven million seasons.”
Jon’s deadpanning stuff like this gets me every damn time.
Dude was built like a dinosaur and according to Jon apparently played since the dinosaurs too! 😂
Any time Jon hits us with a hyperbole in a deadpan tone I have to pause the video
It's so natural how he does it that you nearly miss it if you're not paying 100% attention. Incredible work of genius
“Tuggle wasn’t a football player, he was an Atlanta Falcon.” Got me emotional
100% should be an HOFer
One of the best LB of all-time
*cries in bird language*
I’m actively crying right now. Jesse Tuggle IS the Atlanta Falcon!!!!
Me to, had to half ass fight back some tears damnit
Jon laughing at Steve DeBerg and saying “Oh no!” is absolutely hilarious
@@SimuLord lol
DeBERG-THE ORIGINAL DARNOLD
@@SimuLord and now that Tom Brady's called it a career, DeBerg's record remains intact. 😀 Though Brady did set the record for oldest QB to start and win the game.
@@hbdragon88 oh well
@@hbdragon88 yeah about that :^(
Watching this in 2023 after SB Nation's Minnesota Vikings episode on this game 😭
As Jon perfectly said at 29:51, "that's a story for another time"
"The Oilers had gone 7-9 and 8-8 over the last two seasons with Chris Chandler under center. With such mediocrity unacceptable to coach Jeff Fisher..."
That's such an underrated joke.
The Hard Knocks with the Rams is so epic!!!
Looked for this comment lol
who has rated it and rated it too low? subtle joke? sure.
As a Titans fan, Jeff had good years but didn't get that reputation until he took the Rams job. Funny joke tho 😂
How is it underrated?
“But that’s a story for another time.”
And what a story that was.
"the very special airplane man?!"
Fucking lost it
Fun fact: Jessie Tuggle's son is the current best defender on ATL.. Grady Jarrett.
dang i’m a falcons fan and i never knew that great trivia question
Wtf I was like no way and then looked it up. Blown
whoa
I'm pretty sure that's gonna come up in Chapter 7...
Only a true Falcons fan knows this tidbit of information
Watching this whole series as a Vikings fan, there has been a knot in my stomach knowing that the 98 playoffs were coming eventually.
Imagine being a 49ers fan and hearing the Hearst Injury again.
I feel you. I'm invested in this story, but as a fellow Vikes fan, I don't want to re-experience that pain.
@@16ktsgamma oh dear vikings fans could only imagine the pure pain and shock of your super bowl winning team not winning more super bowls.
I put a time stamp up for future fellow vikings fans. I still curse Gary Anderson's man's every time.
GARY FUCKING ANDERSEN! I WAS SIX YEARS OLD, AND I'LL NEVER FORGET IT
"The very special airplane man?!" was absolutely my favorite line, had me laughing way too hard
"Noooooo"
38:10
The “more on him later” for Eugene Robinson stung a little, ngl.
The Very Special Airplane Man???
It’s not as legendary as the “Out of Nazareth” joke but “like a local news reporter knocking down an ice sculpture” was a *pretty good* joke
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To be fair, “Undrafted out of Nazareth” is a pretty hard one to beat.
I know you probably not doing anything so go look up “Seven Hunnid” on TH-cam
“The Oilers went 8-8 and 7-9 the past 2 seasons. With such mediocrity unacceptable to coach Jeff Fisher,” is also a really strong one.
That Eugene Robinson buildup was absolute perfection knowing what was coming. This series is incredible. You have the amazing ability to get me invested in teams like the Mariners and Falcons, both of which I’ve not really interacted negatively or positively in my life.
Yeah...the entire section where exiting the plane was being explained, I cringed so hard because I knew what this setting up perfectly.
I really never got into the history of football or other teams (outside of my eagles) and when the Eugene Robinson incident came up my jaw was on the floor this is such a great series.
He was very fortunate he did that in 1999, and not say 2019. He’d have been done.
equally good imo. coming from someone who had no idea where it was going
@@jpmnky Soliciting for sex isn't a problem, cheating isn't that big of a problem. Sexual assault is the problem and he didn't do that. He'd have been fine. The other player in this series who assaulted his wife would have been done though.
"Nobody can come back from a score like that, least of all an aging quarterback." 15:08
please, it hurts. every single time, it hurts.
Man, the Falcons will win a Super Bowl eventually. It may be long after all of us are long gone, but it’s gonna happen. As heartbreaking as LI had to be for Falcons fans, I’m willing to wager that XLIII was even worse for Cardinals fans. At least the Falcons have some very good years half the time. The Cardinals have played maybe 10 playoff games. Ever. And they come as close as you possibly can without actually winning it all. Just my take on 28-3.
@@jpmnky falcons have come much much closer lol. literally a run playcall would’ve won them the game. and the cardinals did it to themselves with the james harrison pick six
@@tylerwhitehorn5365 yeah... if they'd tried AT ALL to manage the clock, slow the game down, and just run through it, they could have held on. it was heartbreaking watching them keep calling pass plays when the solution was obvious
@@tylerwhitehorn5365 they didnt even have to run. Some dude on youtube did a video that shows that if the falcons would have taken a knee every play and ran the clock out they would have won
" He was efficient, which is a compliment you give to a furnace"
As someone who just replaced their furnace, it is a perfect compliment.
has your furnace fallen apart immediately afterwards?
The long form torture of the inevitable with these 28-3 references are borderline experimental.
Honestly not sure I could watch this if I were a Falcon fan. As a Seahawks fan I still haven't watched anything from SB XLIX and they actually have a title which makes it a little less rough.
To this day I have never watched SB XLVIII where the Broncos were humiliated and two years later we still won a title. Watching this series from the perspective of a Falcons fan must be extremely sad.
“This is borderline experimental” - Jay Bauman
@@micahpaulsen3940 IT BROKE NEW GROUND.
@@jeffanderson3962 As a Seahawks fan I live three truths:
Having to explain to everyone that the fail mary was caught by Tate, legitimately.
Having to explain that the INT that shall not be named was much better statistically than handing it to Lynch.
Having the memory of our SB loss overshadowed by the Falcons' choke job of a lifetime.
"are we gonna talk about the football game"
Atlantians: Na it's cool, no need to talk about that, see y'all next week!
As a Falcons fan, there’s no need to EVER discuss EITHER of the Falcons’ Superbowls…..
These guys are literally geniuses. This is better than most sports docs you see on tv with 100x less of a budget
💯
I’m studying for digital media production in collage currently and I came back to series for this reason. This is one of the best documentaries I’ve seen and it’s entirely animated in adobe after affects! It’s amazing to see what they were able to do with a small team and one program.
We’re 4 parts into an incredible story... and Michael Vick hasn’t even shown up yet. Part 5 is about to be legendary.
“28-3. No one can come back from a score like that. Least of all an aging quarterback.” Love the call back to the first episode 👌
"and [the vikings], as of 2020, have never won a superbowl. but, that's a story for another time."
no, actually, you don't need to tell anybody that story. it's fine.
@Fries Before Super Bowl 52, the Eagles and Vikings were partners as the winningest franchises never to win rings.
@Fries Ah yes, I forgot the Pre-Super Bowl Era. The Vikings were only conceived in the 50s or 60s, I think.
@@ianalex9062 1961. Vikes did win the 1969 NFL Championship, but since they lost Super Bowl IV, that gets a big old asterisk next to "Championship Wins".
An amusing thing for Philly was that that win in 1960 was the only post-season defeat for Vince Lombardi, so it's said that until 2017 they were cursed never to hold the trophy bearing his name.
@@timfortune9 the Vikings hate the Packers SO much, they won't even win a Lombardi trophy!!
@@RedtheCat2014 Sadly, that makes too much sense.
Never thought I'd be so invested in the history of the Falcons. Fantastic series.
Welcome to the life of suffering that is the Falcons
Would say the same for the Mariners and the Cavaliers...
Not even a fan either of these team at all but these guys just consistently make premium content. They make you give a damn about teams that you normally wouldn't.
Theres so many other franchises that would also make for a great documentary like this ie. the Vikings and my hometown failures, the Mapleleafs
I feel like you came here expecting a different kind of "Atlanta Falcon"
I agree
12:37 Damn dude. Jamal Anderson put down a HOF defensive lineman with a right jab and was strong enough to immediately reload and mush Corey Fuller’s face like he was little bro.
Dude, Jamal Anderson was the TRUTH in ‘98!!!
I have to say as someone who didn't know about the Eugene Robsinson situation I had no idea it was coming and how it was revealed with the music and how that section of the video was playing out was absolutely chilling and shocking. The way Jon muttered "Noooo" was exactly how I actually felt
Same here. I was at a loss for words at that part
The very special airplane man???
Same here. This is my 3rd viewing and on the first watch, I was shocked
Yes, jaw was agape. His "noooo" was my inner voice at precisely the right time.
It's been almost 3 years and I still say "The very special airplane man" out of context all the time
The History of the Jets would be another fantastic series. It’s statistically incredible they’ve been able to remain so consistently bad for so long
"Also, hey there, Todd Haley."
-Alex Rubenstein
The History of the Red Sox would also be fun.
It won’t happen because SB3
@Fries I felt like this series was less of an Untitled and more of an extremely long-form Rewinder.
@@Donald38 I don't think it should be limited to teams that have never won a championship. I think it's more about having stories to tell that are interesting because they are weird, unusual, funny, dumb, relatable etc. If success and championships were the deciding factor, they wouldn't have done a series on Dave Stieb, who won a World Series ring with the Blue Jays and did accomplish his career-long goal of pitching a no-hitter. There are teams that have won at least one championship that would still make great Dorktown stories IMO.
Morten Andersen is my new hero. Going from 'knowing nothing about football' to 'force of nature football player' is a career trajectory most of us can only imagine.
He just happened to be lucky that there is a kicking mechanic in football that played to an ability he has. It sounds more impressive the way they explained it than it really is. The field goal is one the easiest concepts of football.
@@Drogon7102 I get some of what you're saying, but that said, his longevity and accuracy is without parallel. He's one of only two placekickers to be in the HOF - not even Gary Anderson is in the HOF. I don't think he's overrated or overstated here in this mini-doc.
@@hbdragon88 Now, I am wholly unaware of this, I thought Morten Andersen was the lone kicker in the HOF, who else is in it?
@@ianalex9062 the other one is Jan Stenerud.
Ben Graham did something similar, having never played American football, but I'm sure he knew what it was though.
30:04 "But... that's a story for another time." who's here after the Vikings episode?
Jesse Tuggle should be HOF. He was one of the best LB of the 1990's, and actually lead the league in tackles some years
The 7-9 jab at Jeff Fisher was subtle but I very much appreciated it.
29:52 “But thats a story for another time”. I see what you guys are up to
"With such mediocrity (8-8) unacceptable to Jeff Fisher..." - I'll take words that were never expected to be spoken for $400
The description of that Super Bowl feels a lot like last year's Bucs/Chiefs one. From the box score, it's a stomp and uneventful, but in game it was sooo close to actually turning around. But never actually did
It’s a perfect example of “the scoreboard doesn’t tell the whole story”. That super bowl could’ve gone down as one of the all time classics if the Falcons had converted more of their opportunities. It had all the makings of a shootout like super bowl 52 except one team converted their chances and the other (who arguably created more chances) didn’t.
Chris Chandler was efficient
“It’s the kind of compliment you give your furnace”
Still shocked every time I hear about a normal person existing who happens to also be named Chris Chandler
@@moss2441 no relation.
“…which is a complement you give your furnace.”
When I tell you I had to stop the video for 30 seconds solid of stomach-pain-inducing laughter…
So far this series has featured John Heisman, Jesus Christ, and MC Hammer. Looking forward to seeing who shows up in this one.
My bet is on the Kool-aid Man
😂🤣
Why'd you say the same person three times?
@@TheDood95 OH, YEAH!
@@ThatJoshGuy327 The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost
As a Vikings fan who wasn't even old enough to remember the 98 team, I was dreading the footage of the missed field goal. As Jon alluded too, I hope a history of the Vikings comes some day. This series is too fantastic.
@Fries for better or worse, some athletes are defined by that 'one' moment. Mark Sanchez's butt fumble. Byron Russell and defending Michael Jordan. John Carney's missed PAT in 2003. So while it does suck that Gary Anderson's brilliance as "Mr. Perfect" gets forgotten due to missing that one kick, it's unsurprising.
I really do think the quip from 29:52 was foreshadowing, as the Vikings were, indeed, Dorktown's next full NFL docu-series.
“Since you can’t come back from down 25 in the Super Bowl.” Damn…
39:38 Jon almost had me in the first half, not gonna lie
I couldn’t stop laughing at this for some reason
"wait the what...OH SHIT"💀💀💀
I was riveted by the Atlanta vs Vikings chart piece. Very well done.
Jon is obviously amazing as always but Alex brought his A+ game to this series.
Jeff George reveals himself to be a team cancer, in other news, Grass is Green. You go 3-13 in the ensuing chaos
UTree's legacy of failure shows the complete opposite side of this series. This was the case for the Falcons AND the Mariners.
You just knew Super Bowl XXXIII was going to be a disaster when Dan Reeves and Terance Mathis got into an argument a week before the game on how the team was going to get off of the plane after touching down in Miami. It probably wasn't the worst week ever by a team leading up to a Super Bowl (Oakland at Super Bowl XXXVII with the team revolting against Bill Callahan and the Barret Robbins incident probably takes the crown), but between the plane incident and Eugene Robinson, this has to be a close second
Also, Callahan swapping the game plan from a run heavy emphasize (taking advantage of the raiders OLine size) to pass heavy (Tampa's strength) the night before was quite awful.
@@alec1115 I'm not a big conspiracy theory fan, but I'd put my tinfoil hat on for Callahan throwing the game for Jon Gruden.
Interesting seeing you here
When Eugene Robinson was arrested the night before the super bowl and got smoked by Rod Smith, I wanted to laugh but held it in and thinking red Foxx voice:Eugene Robinson u big dummy lol..
@Fries absolutely yes…Dan Reeves was also a mentor to Mike Vick…I recall watching ESPN 30 for 30 Vick, Dan Reeves had to give mike some tough love after hearing about two of his friends getting arrested for transporting weed in his car in 2004……
"this is tragic for the Vikings... ... but that's a story for another time" - so we're getting a video on the Vikings history Jon? Thanks!
We really don't need it, honestly. It's fine. Nobody needs to hear all the details of the Vikings' agony.
Why, yes, I'm from Minnesota, how'd you know?
(Though real talk, I'd rather have Jon and Alex tell that story than most anyone else. Everyone else likes to just mock Minnesota. Jon and Alex always approach these things with respect.)
@@InchonDM exactly, everyone needs to know exactly how tortured the Vikings are. and if anyone is going to do it right, it's Dorktown
As a Viking fan, it was clear to me Vikings were the obvious other choice for Dorktown NFL team. Ever since 7 year old me cried when Gary Fucking Anderson decided to miss, they've been an intriguing, if not infinitely frustrating team. And they were even more tortured before I was born. In some ways, it was the more obvious story, and I think they did well to avoid it.
Sidenote, the Suns will be the NBA team of choice if/when they visit the NBA.
@@pwndnoob4937 you think the Suns would be the most interesting/cursed NBA team to have a multi-part series? Hmm. I mean at least they've had a couple of Finals appearances and the 7SOL team with Mike D'Antoni and Steve Nash. But a Dorktown series wouldn't be a "Collapse" or "Untitled" episode, so it's not all fails and close calls.
I kinda wonder if the Clippers would be a good subject. mostly though they've just been straight awful for 30 years (draft busts, Sterling's interference, etc.). I'd love to see some deep dives into their 2006 playoffs run and Lob City onwards (maybe a Collapse episode?), not sure if it would be a Dorktwon series though.
Good news.
The Atlanta Falcons may not have won Super Bowl XXXIII, but at least one of their own was a champion that year: Bill Goldberg, University of Georgia graduate and former Falcons defensive tackle from 1992-1994, reigned as the World Heavyweight Champion of Atlanta-based World Championship Wrestling from July 6 to December 27 of 1998, the apex of his now-legendary year-and-a-quarter long undefeated streak.
RIP Garrison Hearst's ankles and knees and other body parts. One of my favorite RBs growing up as a kid but he got destroyed by unlucky injuries
“Demolishing it far worse than any woman ever could” …felt that
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That last zoom in on Tuggle’s super bowl patch was crazy. The proof that they made the super bowl was there the whole time!
That transition at the 30:30 mark, transitioning into the super bowl, right after mentioning the Vikings and their lack of a super bowl being a story for another time.
You guys deserve so much credit for the amazing quality of these. I could watch and listen to you dissect the history of every team and not get bored. I hope you get some excellent success.
That story is coming very soon
38:25 this is the hardest a jon bois video has ever made me laugh and that’s saying a lot
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38:23 "The Very Special Airplane Man?" is such an amazingly funny name for someone LMAO.
as someone who has never followed Football before, hearing a name I actually recognize activates my fight or flight
Like that dicaprio meme when he's pointing
Well get ready because. Coming up on Michael Vick
I was a snot nosed elementary schooler living in Wyoming when the Broncos were hot in the late 90s. All I remember about Elway is that I liked the name. Everyone was talking about him, I have a distinct out-of-context memory of his name being written on the board by a teacher.
When the '99 super bowl happened, everyone was thrilled, and I was thinking, "good for the Broncos, good for John Elway."
@@brandonthesteele Thanks northern neighbor
The fact that this was uploaded right after the ATLiens 25th Anniversary Edition was released is just unreal.
Obviously, 1998 was a special year for the Falcons since that was when they first made it to the Super Bowl. However, there is one thing that the 1998 Falcons did that still amazes me, because I have never seen another team do it. They were playing the Saints (and I don't remember if the game was in ATL or NO), but they took the 2nd half kickoff and drove the ball down the field 80 yards for a touchdown. Almost all of the plays were Jamal Anderson runs. The Falcons then kicked off, and the Saints finally got the ball for the first time in the 3rd Qtr with JUST 2:30 REMAINING! Think about that! You're the Saints, and you don't get the ball in the 2nd half until almost the start of the 4th Qtr! WOW, just amazing.
I’m a Vikings fan in Minnesota but was also raised a Broncos fan by my dad who’s from Colorado. The 1998 season is so weirdly conflicting for that reason, but as heartbreaking as the Vikings loss was it still came to a satisfying end in the Super Bowl. The Broncos were just finishing off the Falcons like the Vikings couldn’t, and after going through the playoffs expecting to face the Vikings at the end of it, they got to have a little fun with a team that really shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
That is the best way to put it, the Falcons put their all in a David vs Goliath story for the championship game. Then, completely exhausted and beaten down they would have had to beat yet another Goliath. My frustration isn't even fully with my Vikings not going to the Superbowl, I felt like we had been robbed of possibly one of the greatest Superbowls ever and were instead given the Broncos playing around with a chewtoy for 60 minutes.
It's all full circle! "That's a story for another time." Now we get a vikings doc series!
@@MrMistiesOne issue I see with Minnesota if they played Denver though:
Their run defense might’ve been questionable if they lost to Atlanta and Tampa Bay, and that run defense would’ve faced Terrell Davis, and a very good zone blocking offensive line scheme.
They still could’ve easily put up a closer game than Atlanta did, but I don’t know if they’d win because of that matchup.
30:04 this line has came to fruition
That's a story for _now_
A bit of foreshadowing some would say….
@@Tytoalba777And it was a good story.
One team is generally unsuccessful throughout its history (the only period in the history of the Falcons where they sustained success for more than a couple years is the 2008-2017 range).
Whereas the Vikings as the chart in that series showed at the end of part 5 are the last team that:
A: Has been around since before the first Super Bowl was played.
B: Has not won a Super Bowl.
And C: Is significantly above .500 in the regular season in aggregate.
And they’ve been that way since the Rams won Super Bowl 34.
That fake ending and Jon's reaction had me cackling! 🤣
We love you, Jon.
As a Vikings fan, it’s hard to gauge whether this one broke my heart more than any woman ever could (I see you Alex) or 2009. But y’all have done such an amazing job with this I have to watch it.
Side note: PLEASE cover the Vikings next or if you go to the NBA side of things? The LA Clippers.
The Vikings probably have a more interesting history then the falcons
@@kurtwagner350 honestly? I’m a huge fan of this so far. I wasn’t even a Mariners fan before I watched that documentary and it blew me away.
do the other big four league (already did one on the cavs)… a canucks or sabres one would be really interesting
@@UserName-ts3sp I’d love to see them cover a hockey team.
@@AndrooTheNerd bet the minnesota history would be fun to watch too… wild and north stars
I love how excited Jon gets when he introduces the '98 Falcons
I can’t wait for the part that’s gonna show the team that made me a falcons fan. Matt Ryan, Roddy White, Michael Turner, Julio, Jon Abraham and lil later Tony G.
As a 49ers fan I still can't believe we won that game.
@@RockinRobb01 It is the Georgia curse. UGA lost to Alabama in the same endzone/building in a similar situation just a month or so earlier. Whoever won that game won the right to beat up on Notre Dame for the national championship.
“Such mediocrity unacceptable under coach Jeff Fischer” oh the irony, thank you, Secret Base
30:04 I’m so glad that “another time” has arrived. Loving the history of the Vikings!
RIP Coach Reeves! You brought a lot of people a lot of happiness in your life and career!
The 98 NFC championship still tears me apart as a Vikings fan. Can’t wait until you do a Minnesota sports video series, our misery deserves recognition!
That series is coming very soon
I'm currently struggling with some anxiety, and Jon's and Alex storytelling is so soothing, so well done, that I try to pause this video to really enjoy the story I'm being told. Even though I was fully aware of the Deion/Eugene/Morten Anderson stories, I still was hanging on every word because this is so well told.
Never stop doing it.
Damn, yall made this series so engaging and entertaining that I forgot it was about the ATLANTA FALCONS, THE TEAM THAT MIKE VICK WORE ON HIS JERSEY. WHAT THE FUCK IS COMING IN THESE LAST 2 EPISODES?! The energy you guys delivered so far has been incredible and infectious. Long Live Secret Base
Last three episodes, my friend.
This video was Part 4 of 7.
BAHAHAHA The gag before the Broncos Falcons game was comedy gold, you guys are insane writers
Masterpiece.
I had to pause a few times to take breath and reflect.
This really is an incredible story.
(I am Italian and used to watch a lot of football in the nineties)
19:55
The rare step out of bounds to take 2 points off the opponent play. Absolute Genius
The 28-3 puns and the music when talking about the saints makes me smile everytime.
"But... that's a story for another time." Well. I'll need to make sure I have a drink ready for that one.
At 26:34, Alex says it veers 6 inches left. In the Vikings doc that came out today, when they're talking about this game from the Vikings perspective he says it veers 9 inches left. 69, Gemini, the Yin and the Yang
Alex did give the "about 6 inches" figure here, but Jon was the one who said it was "about 9 inches" in the Vikings account. Yin and yang indeed.
As a lifelong Vikings fan, I've been dreading this chapter.
Next chapter: the Michael Vick years and their playoff woes
In the famous words of UrinatingTree: only a brick wall could stop you, its name is the Eagles
He ironically joins the Eagles after his 2nd stint in the NFL
30:03 "thats a story for another time." -posted from another time
This video series is so fucking amazing. As a 49er fan I appreciate all the subtle connections and nods so much. This video already had 4 connections before you mentioned Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan’s father who coached the two losing superbowl Falcons and Niners in the last decade. Crazy how intertwined the Niners and Falcons history is.
30:13 Story for another time? Does that mean we'll get a Dorktown series on the History of the Minnesota Vikings?
I hope so. That team is amongst the most fascinating in the NFL. It even has the thread, like the Seattle Mariners, of constantly being on the brink of moving. The team threatened more than once to move to Birmingham.
Please no.....🥺
The ATLiens & Outkast shoutout tho 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I’m not a football fan, never watched a falcons game, but the quality of these videos is so good that I’ve watched every episode….
The subtle stray that Jeff Fisher caught from Alex was a work of art.
With my birthday having been on January 31st, 1999, I've been looking very much forward to this episode to really get to the context of the super bowl that's always been the fun fact I've spouted at parties. I have not been disappointed.
My birthday is January 31 I was born on a super bowl as well I celebrate every year on the super bowl since it’s the first Sunday of February now
Been heavily invested in this series, but as a Vikings fan, I've been dreading this episode from the beginning.
"can't come back from 28-3" and "too mediocre for Jeff Fisher" jokes aside, can we talk about the fact that in the 2 years preceding and following Super Bowl XVI, the Bengals and 49ers had a combined .395 winning percentage.
I would sell my soul to get a series like this for all 32 NFL teams
New Cleveland Browns and Lions history might be a little depressing and heartbreaking but 1000% agree
@@stickguyalex cardinals too
Wouldn’t sell my soul but I’m with you on a series for all 32 teams
I completely LOST it at the ending fake out. Brilliant. I love this whole series and it's so damn well produced! Informative and greatly entertaining.
38:14 the reaction that Jon gives here is honestly the most disbelief I have ever seen from him
That subtle Jeff Fisher burn.... love it.
This series along with your Mariners one are honestly some of the most astounding story-lines that I hadn't the faintest idea had existed and has added so much to my enjoyment of sports. Some of the best laughs and most magical moments (I still re-watch Blowers' pre-game home run prediction). It has definitely made me really appreciate the underappreciated teams and magical moments they have. Now that I actually look out for those types of things so far I've noticed how the Bears seem utterly unable to have anyone successfully throw a football for them, how the Twolves and Kings could have assembled a superteam from their missed draft choices over the last 20ish years (let alone the combination of narcissism and delusion by their front offices to believe in their own utterly terrible decisions), the Clippers entire existence and how for the longest time the best thing they had going for them was their announcer, the Vikings numerous ups and downs, and why there is a team called the Jazz playing in a place that could only be described as the literal absence of jazz music.
I also think that an entire history of the Sixers might be a really good one to consider for a next in depth one. They've got so many ups and downs, from Wilt's struggles as his entire team vs a perennial superteam of hall of famers in the Celtics, how they put it together to finally win one, the ensuing collapse afterwards, the Dawkins years, the Dr J years, Moses Malone's arrival, Barkley and Malone early years, Barkley forcing his way out and them collapsing again, the AI years, them re-inventing the idea of a collapse with the process, then missing on so many picks with the only one that has truly worked (ie a top 5 pick producing a player actually involved in the MVP conversation) being a guy who spent his first two years so injured that people literally had no idea what to expect when Embiid finally played. Plus in Philly you have a team and city constantly at odds with their own organization (can we forget their GM creating burner accounts solely to talk shit on their own players), but where they somehow are unwavering in their love for the team (albeit often showing that love with a chorus of boos). I say all this and I'm not even a Sixers fan I just think they're a fascinating look into how beautifully illogical the human psyche can become when there is a passion for sports.
Anyway love these series to the point that I look forward to these more than any movie or tv show release! Thanks for taking the time to do these, I can only imagine how much time it would take to put these together.
You guys are genius sorry tellers . I'm an Australian that doesn't care about American football and I'm living this series.
Those game graphs are really cool. Not even a Vikings fan, but that NFC Championship still makes me sigh. That was such a badass roster. Just for the Falcons to get destroyed in the super bowl.
“The Very Special Airplane Man?!” God BLESS your delivery Jon goddamn
26:30 Jaw is agape from that turn of events. Kinda happy I am catching up on Football now. Digging the narrative.