Installing Tall Skirting Board / Baseboard in a Victorian House
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- I'm on site in this vid - thought I'd take you through a fairly typical skirting / baseboard replacement job in a 100 year old house. The plaster is short of the floor by around 9 inches so that means 10 inch skirtings are in order - these are in keeping with the period of the property. Not the easiest of jobs since the walls aren't flat or plumb (vertically). Any questions pop them in the comments - enjoy and don't forget to Subscribe!
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Very Professional Andy 👍😄📐
Cheers buddy! Everything was green after that job...
I wish our workmen were this thorough and professional!
They can be
They have to be taught until they get it that's IF they are willing to learn
Those things in the wall are old lead gas pipes for lights. If you cut them open you sometimes can still smell the old gas residue from years ago.
Very professional work mate. The three piece glue up and slide in made my day.
Thank you 👍
Good example of "Real World" skirting job. Most walls even in newish homes are a challenge. Loving the channel Andy.
Cheers bud! 👍🛠
Really like the way you make things work for your job to come out right. Showing how to shim to make the molding level was great
Cheers Rob! 👍
Can't stop watching these videos. Weirdly addictive.
Hi Andy. I’m working through your excellent back catalog. I nearly stood up and applauded when you slid in that three piece CA glued assembly around the bump out around 25:10. Well done sir!
Cheers bud! 👍
Ryan Taylor Never mind nearly! I actually did stand up and applause after watching him cut that wood and slide it into place using that CA!!!!!!
That 'bump' looks like an old chimney breast. It looks like the remains of a concrete fire pad in the middle.
OMFG a chippie who don't leave all the filling to the decorator!!!! your my new hero!
Ha ha - I always fill and caulk. I hate painting over wet caulk and don't see why the decorators should have to do it. 👍😀
Good video thanks for posting... Glad to see all the tools you needed and glad some bits were sped up, the video assumes the viewer knows a little about cutting and sticking so it served as a really good overview of the project without being slowed down
Andy, you make this look so easy. I can guarantee you that if I was to attempt that, I would end up throwing something out the window :-))) hats off to handymen all around!
great job Andy. same cannot be said for the builders who did the shoddy work before you got there. couldn't be bothered to take the board far enough down the wall, de-nail the studs or even clear up between the studs. I hate having self trimming tradesmen on my jobs !
Had a similar situation in my house reverb, had to plaster all the holes before fixing the skirting as there are no timber to support. Well done, looks good.
Cheers - yeah these can be quite a big job! 👍
Very interesting. I once had to fit a skirting in a bow window bay and I was very pleased with the result considering it was not a job I'd done before an I'm just a keen amateur!
Well done Andy, excellent video. Just doing my lads house and wondered how to deal with no plaster at bottom of walls to support the skirting.
i live in an 1890 build and the walls are horrendous at times. Thanks for this.
thats a brilliant tip. measure the gap and cut pieces to fill rather than using foam or looking for exact m,acthes.
I always like to finish my own skirting too. Lots don't but I like to know it's been done with care
Excellent job.
Would've taken me about 4-months to do this!
Likewise :-)
Genuinely think that's pure art
Thanks for sharing. Love seeing how others tackle jobs. Great work. Thumbs up !!!
Cheers Pete!
The painters must love you! Doing all that filling for them! Top notch.
It's not that as much as a painter can make it look good they can also make it look real bad if they overlook critical areas .. I do the same thing totally ready for paint .... high end finish work
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Calling yourself a handyman is probably a disservice to yourself. As a carpenter I’ve seen much worse from a lot of carpenters I’ve worked with. Very nice work. The fact you bothered to plumb them and pack to suit was most impressive to me.
Hi Andy
Just catching up on some of your older vids mate, I love tall skirtings and doing jobs just like this one, I’m just in the process of making my own at the moment, as I’ve just built for my Mrs a walk in dressing room.. so I’m in her good books at the moment lol 😆 great content my mate
I've put 3 lots of skirting in my living / dining room in 20 years!
From the original small cheap white, to a taller ogee, painted white, then my wife wanted dark wood, then my wife wanted pine.
I glued the first 2 on. The last time I screwed and plugged them in for easier removal. ;-)
I wish I'd seen this video a long time ago, as the Wickes skirting was bowed and needed to be shimmed at the top.
Great videos...
Cheers Peter! 👍
Hi ,high quality job there mate, good for another 100yrs, lol ,your chancing it breathing in all that mdf dust, but you don't need me to tell you, look after yourself Andy, I'm watching this older video while on lock down 21.4.20, here's Whishing you and your's all the best, stay safe,Stuart.uk.
This is exactly how the job I have done is. And you have done it pretty much how I have
Thats a nice job, Probably my least favourite job is fitting skirting in Victorian houses. Good meeting you at the weekend :)
Cheers Neil - great to catch up. You'll have to stop over and have a beer with me & Gary next time! 👍🛠🍺
In college we were taught to try and avoid having to cut a piece that it's scribed on one end and mitred in the opposite end which would dictate cutting and fitting the chimney breast and returns first and then scribe the alcove pieces to those returns. This would only really be an issue for somebody who isn't particularly experienced though as it isn't that hard to get it right, it's just more awkward if you have done your cuts and need to take a little off the piece. Simply commented this for anyone trying to do this themselves.
Brilliant as always Andy
Thanks. Your toolkit rundown reminded me I needed to order some 1mm Packers!
What a trip way things are done over there......we plaster or drywall all way down to floor so dont have that issues you have
You just tend to see this in older properties - new houses are drywall to the floor. No excuse when the room's been re-plastered though! 😂
If you plaster to the floor in an old property you will bridge the damp course....
Very nice. I like your enthusiasm.
Keep up the great work
Cheers bud!
Thank you for your valuable time and effort in making this video 📹
Cheers
Thank you for this video I’ve learned so much great job too.
Cheers! 👍🛠
Lucky the floors were straight, in the house refurb I am doing I had sand down the skirting to sit flat on the floor. Covid 19 project. House was built in 1907. Had to cement bricks
in walls too. 🤦♂️ I still prefer them to the new builds. Hope your house move happens soon. Good luck, looking forward to seeing the new workshop.
Very professional and really helpful.... thank u.
No worries! 👍😀
How is it that Carpenters are always clearing up other trades before we can start work and yet we leave it ready for the next trade to come along, finish the job and take all the credit.😊
I have been a joiner 37 yrs the word is. “The joiner will do it “ as other trades are not a skilled on hand tools and neatness, sparky are the worst no skill at finishing .but 19 edition , last page says consult joiner .
@@2e0mpg I am a sparky but was looking for comments about this mess. Disgusting laziness and disrespectful to the owner of the property by all those who left this behind
Dear Andy, please, next job, put a shiny black plate on the window ledge and when you have finished working, take a look at the dust on it. Since your lungs work like bellows, sucking air in and out, you can magnify the amount of dust on the plate to at least double, in your lungs, probably a lot more than double. Particles of plaster and concrete dust on building sites are made of non organic materials which don't break down and stay in your lungs FOREVER. Dust masks may be a real pain, but regularly changed, they help somewhat. They don't help at all if you don't wear them.... Good luck
You are of course 100% correct! Do normally wear a mask, especially with MDF... however sometimes getting the job done gets in the road of self protection. Can't disagree with anything you've said though! I consider my hand slapped and I'll make a sustained effort to improve this side of my working! :-)
I'm the same, I'm self employed doing home maintenance and there is no excuse not to wear one, but I don't. I need to get in the habit of putting one on...
Please do! We need you to keep making videos!
Nice job Andy.
I just did a lounge with a very similar situation, wonky walls, New plaster, gaps between the bricks and skirting board. Turned out fine but didn't make it look as easy as you did,
Nice job liked the way you did the long runs
Cheers John! 👍
looks like my pre 90's house. its a pain in the backside to do anything to it. Ive abandoned coving in a few rooms because the ceiling and walls are too uneven.
Well done mate, fantastic job👍
Cheers bud! 👍🛠
Hi Andy, great video. Did you make the tall skirting out of mdf or purchased ready made.
My property is 1900s, and the walls have been skimmed over the top edge. It looks terrible.
Planning on removing them to install a taller skirting well at least to over lap the wall plaster.
Regards..
Just came across your channel and noticed your method of using the jig saw to cut your scribe. Surely it’s better to cut a 45 cut on the chopsaw first which exposes the actual scribe then back cut which allows for a variation in and out. That’s how we and most chippies would do it.
That chop saw was terrible for cutting square, especially on the 45, and these boards were too big for my DeWalt. But yes, would agree. 👍
You've proved that you care about the finished product in the way you prepped the work surfaces and methodical approach to the task.
I have a lot of past experience working in 150 + year old properties and the old plaster walls are never plumb. However, I hate caulking, even though it is a necessary evil. I have invested the time using plaster to straighten walls when they have bad spots. At the end it looks like you had to use an awful lot of caulking, which did not exist when the house was built.
If I was the building owner, I'm not sure I would have wanted caulking used. It's a question of personal preference.
Master class.brilliant job.
Cheers MrSkippylen! 👍
It is a disgrace you had to deal with that shambles Andy. You should have had the skirt on first, as it would have been done originally. Or the plasterer should have seen to it there were horizontal battens for you to nail to and him to finish his bottom edge to. Still you sorted it out. Well played sir.
Do you have a slower more in depth video of how you scribe those ends with the jigsaw please?
Great job found the video very interesting and informative keep the videos coming thanks.
Masterclass!
Great video. Can you do a video on how to measure and fit skirtings using a normal circular saw one day? Ta
nice video, great job. Man you must be fit to work on the floor, up and down all the time. I'd want a hell of a lot of money just for that!
Fortunately I don't do many jobs like that - I don't touch flooring at all for that exact reason. Already had one knee op! 😀🛠
Great job Andy these wee jobs take alot of time and gear a fella would need a couple a hundred quid for the like of this Nightmare at the start but you sorted it out very nicely Just found you and will follow you from now on All the best from THE FAILED JOINER from Northern Ireland
Cheers for the kind comments Ivan!
Nice job. Learnt a few things here.
Good job,I myself love doing this type of work,but it bugs me the amount of tools I need to do this
Cheers Jerry! Yeah especially with the tall skirtings it's tricky without an array of tools! 😃👍
25:20 I see the No Nonsense Grab Adhesive but what was the red one, is there a difference?
Andy, one thing, perhaps it’s just me , I couldn’t leave all the crap behind the skirting. Nice work though 👍
A few tips for you:
1) Use expanding (gun) foam, not 'no nails' . I know that might sound odd - but try it... if you ever need to remove them, you'll find it sticks much better, but can be removed by simply sliding an old saw down behind it - after that, it's easily scraped off, for re-fixing. Not only that - it costs less than a tenth of liquid nails, and will support the bottom of the skirting, between the packings.
2) Fix the packings to the walls with the SDS and plugs - then nail to them, rather than screwing through the mdf on the face - otherwise the filler on the screw heads will pop, eventually.
3) Cut the scribes at 45 deg on the chop saw, then follow the line with a handsaw and for the moulded part, a coping saw. You can't get an accurate cut with a jigger.
4) Remove those gripper rods before you start. A bloke I know lost a hand, after he cut himself on one of those damned things, which later turned sceptic.
5) Use knee pads - or you'll suffer later in life - also, if you kneel on the head of a screw, you'll see why, a lot sooner.
6) Treat yourself to a 2nd fix paslode.
Other than that, you deserve credit for taking the job on. I wouldn't have, because it's obvious you're follwing someone who either hasn't the most basic idea what they're doing, or doesn't give a damn about the tradesman following him.
Cheers bud! Kneepads are built in to my pants btw - already had one knee op! Great tips! 👍👊
What did you use to stick the spacers and skirting to the wall? Is that caulk or some sort of glue?
Out of interest, were you coping the internal corners free hand with the jigsaw? Wouldn't have thought they would come out too well being done free hand? Perhaps that's what the caulking at the end of the vid was for? OR you are just very skilled, hats off to you sir!!!!! Great job, looks great
another good job, crisp finish
I'm curious why you do your inner corners like that without a mitre?
Im going to doing this shortly at a house im buying. Im curious if you need to leave a gap at the bottom for carpets to "tuck under" as such? I noticed here you didn't? This is the best video iv found on YT for this work. Looks so good finished well done mate!
No you don’t need to leave a gap…
im impressed with the finishing. most chippies would leave the corking and sanding to the painters. fair play to ya :)
Why are these been fitted before the floor? Surely they're not using those current boards?
Nice job Andy.
Would be nice if you explained the type of bonding adhesive you used solvent v Polymer and the filler was it water based or expoxy and your preference to makes ,
Man,you are a fu¢πing boss. I'm having skirting fitted on Monday. If he's as good as you I'll be well happy
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Great video really interesting! Lots of dust though so a mask might not go amiss better safe than sorry👍
You are absolutely correct. 👍
Hi, what is the stuff that you mixed and put between the joints, then sanded it down? Thanks for the vid very helpful
Great video. Are you just gluing the wood blocks to the old house brick? I'm surprised that it would stick given the nature of old dusty brick
Great job. Would have liked to see more detail on joining at the corners. I have two golden rules with tradesmen. No smoking and NO music but that’s of course because I live in the house. When I was an electrical apprentice back in the 70s the sparky that trained me forbid radios and tape players. “Not our house”
Very useful. Well done.
Brilliant Video and very timely for me as I’m renovating my 1920s house. Thanks.
I want to install skirting over a laminate floor. Would it be ok to paint, do floor then install and paint the skirting.
Good job Andy. I've never seen bare mdf skirtings that are not primed. I'm sure they would be cheaper but would that not be a nightmare for the painter with the contoured edge.
Lol probably - glad I wasn't painting them! 😂 Customer supplied them. 👍
easy way / is to cut your longest skirting piece /foam it in place carry on round room / when foam has gone of put your fixing in place / no need for packers job done
Normal day for me, not only do I live in one of these 99% of my work is on them. Great job mate, new sub from me.
i must ask stupid me why is there a gap at the bottom where you put skirting board
What is the song with the saxophone in it playing at 3:15?
My floors as well as the walls are all over the place. Do I need to scribe the bottom of the skirting to the floorboards?
Also is that caulk or no nails you're using?
Thanks
Any idea where this skirting was from? Would suit my Victorian renovation quite well.
Excellent job 👏
Brilliant job mate
Cheers Ajit! 👍
Best skirting vid by far. Do you caulk with solvent free no nails or proper caulk ?
Cheers buddy - proper caulk... but no nails works if you don't have anything else to hand, don't think it's particularly flexible though.
Gosforth Handyman
I brought some solvent free adhesive today. We've been using solvent based pink grip or gripfill and caulking. Hopefully water based adhesive will not be brittle.
Great work. But every time you said "level" I was thinking he means plum!! Haha
Who cares? It doesn't matter at all.
Great looking job thanks for sharing 🇬🇧👍
Great job and well explained video.. just for curiosity how much I can charge for a job like that ?
Good job. What glues did you use to stick the boards/shims to wall and what did you use to glue the outside mitres on the fireplace reveal?
Hi... I watched this video with interest...A couple of things....When I was learning the trade I was told that the skirting boards should be scribed to the floor and the top of the skirting board should be level around the room. I notice that you and every other TH-cam video poster must have had a level floor, and negate having to do this procedure.(granted ...you didn't show everything). I only mention this as I once entered a room and the homeowner had chosen a floural print wallpaper...and the fact that the skirts wern't level made the whole room look askew....perhap if the client is just painting the walls it would be ok.
I was also taught...when scribing internal mitres that they should be back cut, where necessary, to allow for corners that are not exactly 90 degrees to meet perfectly, and to save all that caulk in the corners which does detract from the sharp angles of the exterior corners. At least you plumbed them upright with packers...save cutting all those wooden plugs we had to fit in the mortar joints.
You were right in saying that it's not really a job for a DIYer.. and the finer point which make a good job good...are sometimes missed in TH-cam videos.
All good stuff though...and thank you.
Good points. Yes, in this example the floor was level. Looks like a lot of caulk but it's just from where I've forced it in to the corners with my finger - joint is tight. 👍
Quality job; really useful video thanks. Can I ask what size nails you were using in the nail gun?
Cheers! 18ga - 35mm 👍
You never served your time with the council that’s for sure, they normally leave the holes and caulking to us painters , a painter makes a bad council joiner look good 😂
Could you please tell me where you got the skirting board from . Thanks
Hey! Thanks so much for making a fantastic video. Can I ask, at 18:05, why did you use a jigsaw on the top bevelled section of the skirting? Wouldn't two mitre cuts meet anyway? Sorry if this is a daft question, we're just novice DIYers. Thanks!
The corners are often bowed and are rarely 90 degrees so you get a much cleaner fit if you do scribed joints if poss.
Gosforth Handyman ok great! Thanks again for replying and making the video!
Just wondering what the final caulking step is meant for? To stop bugs or drafts?
Nice JOB👍👍👍
Nice job!
Which thickness of wood should be use to make wooden packers?
Nice vid. If carpet is going to be fitted do you need to leave a gap between the skirting and the floor, is it just a few mm?
No, you shouldn't need to leave a gap as long as the floor is level. 👍
The problem with old houses is that many things get altered that can be overlooked. I live in an approximately 130 year old one but as ground levels changed around the area previous owners and builders never considered the dpc level. So my question is:
Is there is a risk that the wooden leveling trims could dampen over time as as they could now be located at dpc level?
Oh and I was looking for a video like this for a long time. Well done sir!
This was upstairs so no risk of damp. The Sticks Like ** glue is pretty robust but I would look to resolve the damp issues properly. If the DPC is bridged that needs sorting. Cheers for watching!
Gosforth Handyman Andy, for those of us on the other side of the pond what is dpc?
@@ronh9384 damp proof course
Phil English Thanks Phil!