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Debating a Naturopathy Student | Do Crystals Have Consciousness? | Heated Discussion | Veganism
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- Debating a Naturopathy Student on various different subjects while only being allowed to say "YES" or "NO"
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That was a 🎤 DROP close ...... very powerful, Arvind
Based. I do not know how you ended up doing a presentation at this institution, but I'm glad they had the chance to hear you speak.
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Animal rescue and this fashion ടh!t eat are different things!🤮😤
What about micro-organisms we kill when we cook our food ?
Student getting afraid of healthy discussion but again arvind won the debate 😂😂😂
Belief does not equate to facts.
Sings: “It ain’t necessarily so...” 🎤
I am ur 69th like😅
I'm baffled at how this incomprehensible to so many.
I believe i can fly (Facts). I drink Redbull
si if we couldn't prove pain feeling on noone, also not in animals, would you not want to give the benefit of the doubt to avoid potential suffering? 💀
This debate is like: Lets have a sword fight, I (the student) will use the sword with my full potential, but you (Arvind) have to grab the sword with your foot and also have to wear a blindfold. Now let's see who will win 😂😂😂😂
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Then also arvind wins 😂😂😂
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Exactly. This level of intellectual dishonesty is mind-boggling
And he still lost lmao ☠️
He is smoking crystals
Smoking on that mineral consciousness pack
Imagine if this is what the future neurosurgeons look like... we're doomed.
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@@PowerfulVillain they are not neurosurgeons no where near that they are studying naturopathy more like ayurvedic medicine (alternative medicine ) to become quack doctors
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There is nothing wrong in asking silly questions, but this student was rude to arvind which is not good.
Awesome way to answer, Arvind!
Naturopathy Student : Everybody has the consciousness.
Unknown : Dear, you don't 💤
Ohhh that was amazing.
Aravind answered it very well👍
He could proved him wrong in many other ways but rather than doing that he sticked to the main purpose of this debate....
5:25 Student: "Why do you say that it doesn't exist? answer with yes or no."
Lmao, what a brilliant brilliant man this student is
Aravind bro Speak is in reality but that student is speaking in an imaginary concept..what a logic 😂
एवरी होम्योपैथी मेडिसिन एंड स्टूडेंट अलसो नो लिटिल बिट अबाउट आयुर्वेद
right!!!! I didn't even understand what was he trying to ask, like what doesn't exist?😭😭
It's dictatorship, not brilliance
I had so much anxiety watching this video .. don't know how Aravind was so calm
"With your request,I don't want you to explain this"😢
Never seen something like this in a discussion
Imagine... these guys are our future neurosurgeons... scary!
Neurosurgeons? LMAO! No no, these are naturopathy students. They will massage your back, suggest sweet balls as cure for cancer, or at best be an assistant to an actual doctor so they can pretend they work in the field of actual medicine!😆
"discussions"
@@harishnarayanan5shut the hell up, illiterate- who doesn't know anything about AYUSH.
Same here ,bro😢😢
GOAT🔥🔥🔥
Arumaiya irukkum bro goat uh
Such scientific discussion/debate are much needed to promote vegan life(basic humanity - to do least harm at all if needed to the surrounding).
Have been living vegan life as much as possible(my diet is completely vegan, now try to help near by stray animals as much as possible, and supporting voices like yours)
Been watching your videos for a long time now(people like me will support you as much as possible), learning this skill of scientific based argumentation by listening to you carefully and making notes.
I also listen to ACHARYA PRASHANT(Most influential Vegan of year 2022, and many more)- who also is fighting this battle to save us humans from ultimate disaster of Climate Change and how it's related to animal cruelty(meat industry, agriculture industry, etc), he also backs it with scientific evidence many times(Hope you know Him).
It's a never ending battle which soon I will also be fighting HEAD ON.
You are a great human being.
Vegan and also a stray animals lover. Nothing in this world can be more compassionate.
Helping poor animals is the best thing one can do. My respects to you sir. 🫡🫡🫡
You need protein my child..seems so weak 😂
@@adhithya.n9988 he has a lot of vegan protein supplements options apart from his diet.
You need humanity for which there is no option. It's not your fault, it's your parents who could not give good sanskaars to you. Unlucky you.
Wow that was amazing. He stringently limited you to yes or no responses and you still were able to respectfully and quickly refute all of his excuses. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Hilarious discussion. Kudos to you, Arvind, for constructing such an effective argument on why plants don't feel pain based purely on Darwin's theory of evolution. It's truly impressive.
Beautifully explained brother ❤
Arvind is the best advocate for animals on this planet. That is an opinion of mine held so strongly as to border on fact.
But he is a half baked potato too ...
You got to be kidding When he said plants are not conscious...
They feel pain on a different plane for which no organ needs to vibrate ....just like when I call him an idiot ... No organ vibrates but still he feels pain ....
He lost it when he says he doesn't believe in god but starts giving morality lessons ....
Glad nobody could catch him because ...for all his idiotic reasons he is right about one thing though ...about not killing animals ..
Take care
Hope it helps to clarify some point
All due respect to him but he only copied Gary Yourofsky word to word, and he himself admitted to that fact, he copied his arguments word to word
@@NoName-bb2pu Is all of what Arvind says copied from Yourofsky? If not, what percentage? And if he quotes Yourofsky, and credits him, what's the problem?
@@veganforlife5733 there is no problem, specially when I'm vegan and a Tamilian myself like Arvind. However, Arvind is not among the best advocates for animals on this planet, I respect your opinion but it doesn't border on fact, Gary would rank higher, and people like Sam Simon who pumped millions into actual animal rescue and hunting prevention would rank much much higher.
@@veganforlife5733 also having seen both Gary and Arvind talk, the similarity is about 80%, where Arvind has a natural advantage is that India has great veg food so that he can play with the variety to tempt people to change.
Choose Veganism😊😊😊💚💚💚🐥🌱🙏
Why should we go vegan?
Chicken Khao bc
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Quit Christianity
1.why he is fearful of debate?
if you are sure about your things which you want to convey so you must accept debates and discussions. He made arvind quite.
But as far as I know arvind he always let people speak and then he answer.
2.crystal , plant, animal have consciousness but this will not justify the animal exploitation by man.
3. Make a society which is more compassionate if you want to live peacefully. Otherwise don't blame others as everyone has a choice to exploit fellow humans and animals and nature.
And Arvind you are a gem in the face of human💎
what is consciousness according to you? if you belief something go by challenging your own definition and check if it fits what you believe. You may surprise yourself. Just be impartial because we may reject easily what we don't feel comfortable with.
because of less time that's why he didn't do debate you need to watch full video then you can understand what he is saying
No.. plants don't have consciousness.. don't be a fool and ignorant..
And crystals aren't even living..
@@criticalpsycheyou guys are so stupid.. like your lqck of basic established science is so astonishing to me..
Plants are living beings and so they have stuff going inside them..
Stressed plants doesn't mean that they're stressed mentally.. it's just that condition isn't the best for the plant to grow and stay healthy..
And plant ,a living being and not a sentient being, has stuff going inside their cells..
Also, there's a gradience to sentience...
And birds and mammals are very sentient..
@@scienceislove2014 मुझे नहीं लगता कि तुम्हारे में भाई कौन से एसएमएस है एक काम करो वेदों को ढंग से पढ़ो फिर जाकर बात करना
Ask Santhosh does the bubble wrap has life since it produce sound when pressed (probably in pain)?
you really are great brother. Keep doing the good work. We will fight together for animal rights.
empty vessels make the most noise, yes or no?
Yes
Yes
Yes😂
Crystals have consciousness
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My Salt crystals are fighting now 😀
and they all said yes in unison🤦♂️. How brainwashed are they
I didn't know that you are an atheist too. Same here brother. I am also an atheist as well as a vegan.
Good Girl! 👌
In your own words, define “VEGANISM”. ☝️🤔☝️
@@JagadguruSvamiVegananda veganism is an ideology that excludes as much as animal exploitation as much as possible in current world
@@JagadguruSvamiVeganandaGoogle exists for a reason and you should use it. Why the hell would some person explain definitions?
Also why does the commenter have to respond in their own words? Is this some exam paper or what?
Well let's be agnostic rather than atheist, because we don't know whether someone created this universe or not, right?
@@religionofpeace782 wrong.
If i was in place of arvind, would have losed my consciousness and would start fighting with that person. He dares to speak whole illogical think and expect us to answer is only yes and no. It's just a test of patience. How Arvind handled the situation so peacefully is commendable and also how is answerd in the end. Arvind clearly won the debate with his Logical and scientific argument. Rationality wins.
I would throw my sandale.
Hats off aravind bro !!!
Arvind's presentation at the end: awesome beyond words. He is specific and assertive and yet not offensive. The conciliatory look on his opponents face at the end: beautiful. Arvind wins for the animals again. tyty!!
And these people will become doctors?😮 I pity the patients that will visit them. Guys, note this guy's name so that you can decide whether to risk your life with his diagnosis or not.
No... he's not a real doctor.. they're practicing naturopathy..
Naturopathy is mot synonymous with neurology..
Naturopathy, or naturopathic medicine, is a form of alternative medicine.
R u a doctor
The degree of Bnys comes under AYUSH Stream of medical sciences, India and the one who persues and completes it is a professional doctor, sir.@@scienceislove2014
@@scienceislove2014Oh makes sense. I didn’t know that. I was shocking he didn’t even know basic things like evolution and was spouting so much nonsense being a doctor. It makes sense he’s in alternative medicine
They're naturopathy students not mbbs
As simple as that and still they don't understand
si if we couldn't prove pain feeling on noone, also not in animals, would you not want to give the benefit of the doubt to avoid potential suffering? 💀
Sir plz come dehradun city's college to aware the veganism. I m with you to helpling this mission
Arvind has a lot of patience. This student wants to talk, but does not want to listen. Ultimately arvjnds patience enlightened him
4:50
Student - Yes or no?
Arvind - Can you repeat the question one more time?
Student - no this is not a question
Hilarious
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He asked “YES or no?” not once but twice, too!! 😩🤣🤣
Arvind is an intelligent man . ❤❤
Forget everyhting, I will never go to a naturopathy specialist who believes that crystals have consciousness 😂😂
Crystals can retain vibration and energy but it has no consciousness of its own
Wooooo
Wooooo
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what is consciousness itself has problem in definition.
pseudoscience
@@criticalpsychedude it's science crystals can store energy like a battery
Man, this student ruined the debate, debates don't happen this way. This student is like instead of sweeping junk one by one, let me pile up the junk in a huge mountain and than I will allow you you sweep the junk.
The point is not about being conscious or not ,,, the point is which is better... for just 1 pound of meat you are wasting 100 pounds of plants... 80% of agricultural lands and forests have been cleared for livestock rearing to produce meat.... which accounts for only 20% of nutrition for humans !!!!!! Choose wisely...
Okay, let's assume plants do experience pain or have consciousness (backed by some research papers as he stated). Now, the question arises, if we are consuming animal based products or animals (herbivores: plant eaters), we have to feed them plenty of plants first or create tremendous resources for their feeding. So, it results in the exploitation of both plants and animals. Moreover, consumption of animals or animal products eventually results in climatic changes, huge wastage of resources, deforestation, carbon footprinting etc. Now, if we are solely dependent on the plants, it would result in less exploitation or cruelty to our nature. Please, go vegan and say NO TO ANIMAL ABUSE, they are brutally tortured every second.🙏 GO VEGAN 🌱🌱 we are compassionate beings.
Thank you for coming to our college Arvind. A lot of students turned vegan because of you. Naturopathy itself is not any medical system that uses drugs. Its a way of life, advocating veganism for health.This particular student is into pranic healing as he argues that crystals have consciousness. Pranic healing system also says its unethical to kill animals and eat them. Clairvoyants of the system claim that Non-vegetarian food has dirty grey energy & therefore unhealthy for both body and mind. Its difficult to prove as there's only weak evidence. Some people through experience & practice know/believe in it. I don't see a space for argument here. The student is clearly ignorant and arrogant with his approach. But not all students and all naturopathic doctors have the same approach or opinion.
Love the way you communicate Arvind❤
finally after a long time arvind sir. ❤ from uttarpradesh 🤗
Bro thought he was being such a hero. I'm amazed how Arvind handles people like this so calmly.
That was just satisfying to watch ❤
Vegan for the animals always
He knew Arvind would point out all of his logical fallacies which is why he wasn't allowing him to speak.
Perfect
Scientists have differentiated botany and zoology based on several key properties and characteristics that distinguish plants from animals. Here are the primary criteria used:
Cell Structure:
Botany (Plants): Plant cells have a rigid cell wall made of cellulose, chloroplasts for photosynthesis, and large central vacuoles.
Zoology (Animals): Animal cells lack a cell wall, do not have chloroplasts, and generally have smaller vacuoles.
Nutrition:
Botany: Plants are autotrophic, meaning they produce their own food through photosynthesis using sunlight, carbon dioxide, and water.
Zoology: Animals are heterotrophic, meaning they must consume organic material for energy.
Mobility:
Botany: Plants are generally stationary and rooted in one place.
Zoology: Most animals have the ability to move independently at some stage of their life cycle.
Reproduction:
Botany: Plants can reproduce both sexually (through the production of seeds and spores) and asexually (through methods like budding, vegetative propagation, and fragmentation).
Zoology: Animals primarily reproduce sexually, although some can reproduce asexually (such as through budding or parthenogenesis).
Growth:
Botany: Plant growth is often indeterminate, meaning they can continue to grow throughout their lives.
Zoology: Animal growth is usually determinate, meaning they stop growing once they reach a certain size.
Response to Stimuli:
Botany: Plants respond to environmental stimuli like light, gravity, and touch through slower, growth-based movements (e.g., phototropism, gravitropism, thigmotropism).
Zoology: Animals have a nervous system and can respond quickly to stimuli through movement and behavior.
Cell Differentiation and Organization:
Botany: Plant tissues are often less differentiated and organized into simpler structures like roots, stems, and leaves.
Zoology: Animal tissues are highly differentiated into complex organs and systems (e.g., circulatory, nervous, digestive systems).
Energy Storage:
Botany: Plants store energy primarily as starch.
Zoology: Animals store energy as glycogen and fat.
These fundamental differences in cellular structure, nutrition, mobility, reproduction, growth patterns, response to stimuli, tissue differentiation, and energy storage have led to the clear distinction between the study of plants (botany) and animals (zoology).
Everytime you want to eat something just check if it falls in Botany or Zoology class and you are good to proceed eating if it falls under Botany and anything which falls under Zoology should not be eaten. Thats the end of discussion
amazing ... only rational conversations will get us to a better place. arrogance, attitude will pull us backwards. always ready and be willing to change.
Damn, this must've offended the healing crystals in his pockets😂
Well said man, that Doc. got his answer 😊.
Thing is that, Doc. was diverting the point to non issue. The hole point is that should we abuse the animals for our survival? The ans is No.
We can be happy with plants based food.
I love Arvind's response. A tight slap of logic and true knowledge ❤
The student is someone I will avoid at all costs 😂
A masterclass of exploring facts vs beliefs 👏🏽🌱🌱
The first time that minerals experienced embarrassment
Thanks
The discussion drives back to fundamentals of life. You won't get answers in science but in spirituality.
Brilliant defence! I am not yet fully a vagan but an aspiring one. This inspires me so much
First time I have heard the word Mineral Kingdom
Telling king Arvind, not to speak 😡 I came here to hear the king's speech. 👊👊👊🔥🔥🔥🔥👑
Amazing how you responded Arvind
Good articulation Aravind Sir...
This students reminds of the saying: "It is better to be silent and to be mistaken as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubts".
Thank you for your amazing work Arvind!
Thanks!
Thanks alot. Truly appreciate the support 🙏
me to that student...ha bhai kesi lagi aaa gaya swaad😂
Arvind just nailed it .. proud to be your supporter and i entered veganism by the hands of arvind
As a microbiologist I can relate to the guy who is talking about the pain that as been experienced by plant . Under a microscope, plants exhibit fascinating responses to stimuli that could be interpreted as pain-like reactions. Here are some examples:
1. *Cellular damage*: When plant cells are damaged, they release chemical signals, such as electrical impulses, that can trigger responses in neighboring cells.
2. *Mechanical stress*: Plants exhibit mechanical stress responses when subjected to physical forces, like bending or cutting, which can lead to changes in cell shape and gene expression.
3. *Electrical impulses*: Plants generate electrical impulses in response to stimuli, similar to animal nervous systems. These impulses can be measured using electrodes.
4. *Calcium waves*: Plants exhibit calcium waves, similar to those in animal cells, which play a role in signaling and responding to stimuli.
5. *Hormone responses*: Plant hormones, like ethylene and jasmonic acid, are released in response to stress, damage, or disease, triggering defense responses.
While these responses are not equivalent to animal pain, they demonstrate that plants are dynamic, responsive organisms that react to their environment at the cellular level.
Keep in mind that the scientific community still debates whether these responses constitute "pain" in plants. However, it's clear that plants are more than just passive objects - they're complex, interacting systems that respond to their environment. we can understand that even plants go through stress but as a human beings we are taking advantage not only of the domestic animals but also eating plants , deforestation and polluting the earth. I appreciate that you understand the pain that is experienced by the animal and you stopped eating meat. Aravind I know for the fact that you don't believe in god since you don't have any solid evidence but there are so many things like microorganisms which can only be viewed under a microscope, oxygen,atoms etc which has been discovered but before that if someone describes the existence of the invisible they wouldn't believe because they can't see it and hence my point yes god is not visible, I don't have the special equipment to prove to you about his existence and he can only be felt by your heart, if you believe god does not exist because there is no scientific evidence that does mean god is not present because before the discovery of microorganisms, oxygen and atoms no one believed the existence but it does not mean microorganisms never existed and only exist after the discovery. There are so many things that is not yet discovered by human beings and yet to be discovered so have a open mind to everything and don't set the bar high that god does not exist.
Your final response Arvind was BRILLIANT!! 🇦🇺🌱
He does not seems to be doctor 😂
Naturopathy 😂😂😂
Munna bhai MBBS 😂
No
Keep doing what you are doing!! Great content as always 💗💗💗
Minerals have consciousness
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Atoms too
Yes said who. Nikola Tesla. Do your study.
@@swapnilnikumbh5681and he was wrong , just because he was the greatest physicist dosnt mean we have to believe whatever he says.
Hippocrates was the greatest doctor of his time but still his black bile theory was wrong , science is not bullshit like a religion , it needs evidences.
@@PantheraGoat 👍
The moment when arvind started talking 🔥🔥
once again your exceptional arguments and confidence in your faith in veganism has amazed me arvind, being someone who believes in god and has read the vedas, I can assure you that vedas are ever evolving and they are applicable in a different manner in different eras. meat consumption was understandable in the paleolithic era when our ancestors were not aware enough and barely had any compassion, but imitating them today even tho this is a completely different era with more choices is not only logically wrong but delusional on levels one cannot imagine. in fact even in paleolithic era only 3 percent of our diet consisted of meat. and dairy was not even present at that time. I will keep supporting you by donating you so that you keep sharing your beautiful perspective on veganism and will always pray to the lord that you soar higher and higher without any ounce of fear.
Great debate 👏👏
Vera level reply bro...loved it.
Arvind is on fire 🔥
It's not consciousness or awareness, it's sentience. And remember that animals usually also have families. So it's not just the pain of an individual that could arguably be reduced to zero. It's the pain of someone(s) losing a mother, a father, etc
si if we couldn't prove pain feeling on noone, also not in animals, would you not want to give the benefit of the doubt to avoid potential suffering? 💀
Well Said Mr.Arvind 👍👌❤️
Pretty impressive Arvind!
As a geology student, we failed crystallography and minerology. Common now, minerals have consciousness is the most bs line i have ever listened.😆😆😆
I feel seriously more concern about this doctor's future patients than vegan non vegan thing😓
Could you please answer me🙏
I agree to you on everything you say but what if eating animal based diet becomes a necessity for someone like me?
I have a rare, progressive and incurable autoimmune disorder and I've came to know that (i've read several research papers)eating animal based diet might cure me upto an extent or atleast make me stay stable.
I am a vegetarian right now but for the sake of my health i am open to test other diets as well and carnivore or animal based diet has caught my interest despite being an animal lover and regular dog feeder.
Please advise on this.
This guy asked one question that if we are not aware of something we cannot say its wrong. To slightly modify his question "Would one be correct in saying a thing does not exist only because its existence has not yet been proved?"
We as vegans need to ask specific questions and ask for proofs regarding the claims of these research studies.
some crystal has done something wrong with his consciousness with the power of its consiousness.🤣
How hypocritical of this person to claim that a 100% inanimate object - a crystal - has consciousness while ignoring the consciousness of all living beings and defending to kill them for food! This tops even the #HareKrishna gang.
#GoVegan
#GoVeganForTheAnimals
#GoVeganForThePlanet
#DitchTheDairy
#DairyIsCruel
#Peacebeginsonyourplate
You are a light in a dark place.
Bro, plants will scream. Since the sounds are in "ultrasonic wave length" you can't hear them. Only Bats can hear them
Wow long ,painful, one ended discussion until Arvind puts the smackdown
Brilliant argument by Arvind.
Arvind, you're putting in a lot of effort, but your argument is weak when someone raises the animal vs. plant debate. Just show them the numbers: it takes a significant amount of plants to feed animals to produce 1 chicken or a hamburger. Even if we assume plants have the same level of consciousness as animals, choosing the less violent option for survival makes more sense. This is the point you need to convey to him.
Arvind, you became a vegan 10 years ago. You were probably in your teens, back then. Which incident prompted/convinced you to go vegan?
There are TWO reasons why vegans comprise a fraction of one percent of the population:
The main reason is due to humans’ failure to care about what they put into their own bodies - as long as it tastes good, who gives a damn about the consequences to one’s own health, or to the ethical concerns regarding other creatures or the environment?
The other reason is due to vegan advocates and animal rights activists being inept in their understanding of morality, as well as their abysmal grasp of human physiology. Almost every single vegan activist I know of, wrongly believes that we are omnivores, and they are CLUELESS in respect to metaethics and applied ethics.
However, this is not the most unfortunate thing about the matter. The saddest thing is, that there is hardly a single vegan activist willing to spend even a single hour or so, in order to study proper diet and meta-ethics with the current World Teacher Himself, Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda, despite him freely offering to do so on his social media platforms. 😩
He has a video explaining his journey
You are legend!
Sir I have a question. You have mentioned a lot of times that we have no right to kill organisms because they have a will to live. Like a cow tries to runaway from humans so we need to tie it. But sir so do plants. Even they want to live. How can we say that? Well you see plants like cactus have evolved drastically just so they can SURVIVE and LIVE in deserts. Potato as we know it today exists because it evolved that way to store food for unfavourable conditions. Some plants produce toxins in their body to prevent themselves from getting eaten by herbivores (ex: calotropis). Mycorrhiza are being formed in the nature too increase to odds of survival. The fact that plants have and still undergo so many adaptations for survival that means it HAS a WILL TO LIVE. Infact from the very Mycoplasma to the Blue whale all organisms do every possible thing that can get them living. So doesn't that mean that every organisms is having a right to live beacause they show tendency to LIVE despite harsh conditions? and the fact that animals can even try to protect themselves but plant can't even do that we are going to eat them (because they cannot runaway) doesn't it make them even more helpless?
hahaha valid and powerful answer 🔥
anna ingum irukainga
I will not pop bubble wrap from now on since according to this yes/no guy it feels pain
😂😂😂😂😂
you are the best!
Aravind 🔥🔥 what a gem!
that student tried to be a cool ass but embarassed himself infront of all girls 😂
Aravind Patience level 💯🫡
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