Thats why goverment should start spending on research and researchers, non of the the country is going to transfer technology because that is their source of income and power which they dont want to lose.
Pehle Tejas MK2(4.5gen) in 2028, then TEDBF(4.5gen) in 2029, AMCA(5gen) in 2035, AMCA MK2 (5gen) in 2039. Till 2039 no plan for 6th gen plane, and USA is already working on one
Currently there’s No accurate definition for 6th Gen fighters, Mainly countries having 5th Gen technology they are adding some AI and drone operations capabilities in fighters to make them 6th Gen. currently DRDO is trying to add such capabilities in Super Sukhoi and if they succeeds then we can also modify AMCA to 6th Gen.
Why is the speaker calling it unfortunate? Showing your spine when needed is not unfortunate, it is right for India to show spine to other countries that still show India colonial mentality.
@@bowxfire5275 we r not, u can say that when we put conditions on europe for migration. Dont be so blind in ur introspection that u forget calling spade a spade
Ek Tejas hi Kaafi hai mere yaaro. Kaveri banjaye fir 300 Tejas banao aur samosa party karo. Advanced Air Defense and 300 Tejas MK1A/ MK2 is enough. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
These countries think that India was born yesterday that they can manipulate us..this issue should have been addressed long time ago.. but we got comfortable importing aircraft. We have endure this issue for a few more years..might as well focus on mass producing Tejas mk1A, Tejas mk2 and AMCA and build our own fighter aircraft manufacturing industry.
Think you want to tranfer technology to country z. There your brother and dad makes two companies and you tranfer the techlogy to them; they will not share with anyone else. So you technically transfered to country Z but practically did not.
Hathiyar hai lekin kya ho agar tum use istemal he na kar pao kyuki tum uske 'OWNER' nhi ho bas usi tareeke ka case ye wala bhi hai manufacturing hamare he desh me hogi lekin wo hamari nhi hogi
if we have to pay such huge amount for this then better buy american ones atlest they r better if nothing else, though it might be little difficult c we bought rafale earlier. Changing platform is a curse, still i think given our size, we can manage
Likh k le lo koi ToT nahi dega.. hamare pass koi choice nahi hai, they should accept the deal or choose the american jet under mrfa to avoid us arm twisting.
Technology दे रहा हैं तो हम मान लेना चाहिए, नहीं तो हमे खुद राफेल जैसा जहाज बना लेना चाहिए, सब बिना खुद से विकसित किए Technology से मांगेंगे तो कोई नहीं देगा.
Dassault can't be leader in 5th generation , 6th generation fighter jets . We can always have option of purchasing aircraft for navy from other companies like Boeing , Lockheed Martin or Euro fighter . Currently our fighter jet requiment is 114 , as economy grows in near future we may require fighter aircraft on regular bases . We are market of future we can certainly negotiate with American fighter or European fighter .
Samasya ye hai ki technology transfer wo nahi denge aur sath me ye bhi kahenge ki Russia se weapon mat kharido aur tum aage ye technology wale weapons Russia ko nahi bech sakte to fir India kamayega kaise
We need to access the current situation, what's needed and situation at both side of borders. Purchase fighter aircraft with some best features, we can achieve technology transfer later on too. We are already developing our own fighter aircraft, this purchase is like till we have our own main fighter aircraft.
No this is not colinism. India needs to suck it up and take whatever is there as we are still struggling. We cannot just keep asking questions when answers are right in front of us!
India should give small fund to 4-5 start up for radar, engine and other components manufacturing from scratch. I am sure they would be able develop technology
Go for super Hornets, we will be soon manufacturing the engines and Boeing is willing tot on the whole aircraft to the point that the aircraft will be exclusively made in India for domestic and export markets
Everyone threatening india Earlier US now France. I do not think in contested air space Rafale can escape from chinese radar n they have S400 Also. So india shd opt for Su57 russian jets instead of Rafale with a condition that Russia transfers technology inclufing AL51 Jet engine
Seriously pata nahi kitna decade ho gaya abhi bhi ek fighter jet karid nahi pa rahe ho...kya bole ab...IAF ki arkat dekhkar ab gussa araha hain...IAF ki filal jo halat hain na Pakistan se bhi jit nahi paoge...China to bhul jao...sala ek fighter jet ka deal nahi kara jara hain...thu..
Bhai jab intellectual property rights aur technology unki hai to aur agar woh ownership mang rahe hai toh galat kya. Hamara goal sirf make in India aur uss technology ki knowledge lena aur sikhna hona chahiye jaise ki china ne 1990 s main pehle sikha phir usse apni technology develop ki. Yeh ownership ke chakkar main koi bhi country india main invest nahi karega. Ab agar apple ne iPhones india main apni factory laga rakhi hai. Toh iska matlab kya woh apni ownership india ko transfer kar de. Meri samaj se toh indian govt. Ki demand samajh se pare hai.
Advanced Technology koi nahi dega. Hamen China ki tarah khud hi innovations karane honge. Proposal employment ke liye thik hai par iske dusare kya implications honge yah sarkar hi jaan sakati hai.
Ughgh Just offer them 4X there market worth and says Dassault aviation would have full control but Dassault aviations would have full Indian control 😂😂 France is anyways broke this is a good opportunity to buy crown jewel of France.
Kya France apne Snecma M88 Engine ki 100% technology transfer karega India ko? Aur kya Nagpur Maharashtra me jo Facility hai unme saare Indian worker hi kaam karenge? Mere personal opinion me agr France is ke liye agree kar jaae to hame jarur aage badhna chahiye 😅
Kyo dayy ownership unkho bhi humkhovsaffaron Kay engine ki jarurat nahi hai kyo ki itnee power kaa engine toh kavari provide karwatta hee hai 80kn humkho France Kay sath meelkar Naya core engine banna hai joh Beena after burner 60to65kn thirst dayy aur over all thirst 120kn after burner chalnya per mellya
It’s our challenge to make a jet engine we what to go forward with it use all our valuable and engenering abilities us all our source to make it possible
When you are dependent on foreign countries for your defense requirements you’ll be bullied similarly 🤣🤦 pull some strings of your HAL DRDO ADA etc who’re just wasting time in their jobs because of no accountability
France sell hi nahi korega kiyuki technology transfer korega Bhai france unpor somosta 4-5 billion ke liye technology transfer korega Bhai mujhe nahi logta west itna fool ho sokta hai
Chalagaya tho ek bath nahi tho ek hathi ise ek kalath hena . Wo he . Bachith karthe raho final hamara intrest succes hone tak . Sukoi bi ise aana india me .
Behind the screen aur aur hua hoga, so they r become so much demanding.. still that matter not close in France but in india clean sheet with close files 😂
Wo toh bolenge hi hamare desh ki baski nahi hai bnana.. Toh aisa hi hog.. Tumko wo hathiyar bhi de and technology bhi de aisa hai kya tumhare pass... ..
Negosation karnee chiya per ownership toh hamaree hogee agar nahi mantya toh fir rolls royal say concern karna chiya yaha rolls royal kaa matlab sirf britan sauvhai uskya paach friend country say nahi rolls royal khoveuro jet ki jaghah Naya engine core banana hai jesmya India investment kargga aur ipr right bhee bhart aur rolls royal kaa hogga
Good sagi kiya india ko jet chaiye. Pr koi abhi tak manta nahi. Aane ko.. Fer india khud k shuru bnane holi holi bnege.. Kyoke je fightee jet india k hai is liye oura haq india ka hoga. Agr koi na bi aye.. Fer bi indian defense khud bnana shuru kre.. Desh piche na ho jaye ialiye jald shuru krne hoge jet ki teyari. India khud hatyaro ko bna rha ia liye thoda peeche chala geya hai..
France thinks india is like africa 😂
Same as Africa poor man 😂😂😂😂
India is not Russia or China babe
It is our tech you beggar, why would we give you our tech
@@Jai-Bharat111 underrated comment
I don't understand who they will transfer the technology to, if the factory is theirs
Africa se tulna kyu kar raha hai Africa me bohat potential hai
Mindset of colonism in France still exhists.
Not only France dude 😂😂😂
It is our tech you beggar, why would we give you our tech
kuch time pehle france ko chaat rahe the ab dekho kaise he
Thats why goverment should start spending on research and researchers, non of the the country is going to transfer technology because that is their source of income and power which they dont want to lose.
So true.
yes
only Russia helps in technology transfer
Russia ke chatte, Russia has also denied the tech transfer on various occasions very recently for stealth fighter jets. @uttamthakur2016
Jai bheem
@@uttamx2016 Russians never transferred the Critical Technologies as well as Data Links to the Indian Defense Forces
As USA flags its tail on GE jet engines
It was expected from France
make your own including engine not GE one
until we have our own 6th gen fighter, they will continue blackmailing us.
Yaha naa 4.5 gen ka atta pata hai naa hi 5th gen kaaa Kya tum 6th par poch gaye sidhe 😂😢
5th Gen 2035 me aye gya😢
Pehle Tejas MK2(4.5gen) in 2028, then TEDBF(4.5gen) in 2029, AMCA(5gen) in 2035, AMCA MK2 (5gen) in 2039.
Till 2039 no plan for 6th gen plane, and USA is already working on one
Currently there’s No accurate definition for 6th Gen fighters, Mainly countries having 5th Gen technology they are adding some AI and drone operations capabilities in fighters to make them 6th Gen. currently DRDO is trying to add such capabilities in Super Sukhoi and if they succeeds then we can also modify AMCA to 6th Gen.
Hamara Tejas time pe nahi ban raha aur aap kaha 6th gen fighter pe pohach Gaye😂😂😂
Why is the speaker calling it unfortunate? Showing your spine when needed is not unfortunate, it is right for India to show spine to other countries that still show India colonial mentality.
agreed, ppl show spine only on comment section
Correct. Unfortunate, may be for France, but bold decision by India. Bravo.
This is prime example of arm twisting by west😂😂😂😂
We are also twisting their arm when it comes to FTA and a few other things.
We cant be hypocrites like the west by shaming them for this.
Yes
@@bowxfire5275 we r not, u can say that when we put conditions on europe for migration. Dont be so blind in ur introspection that u forget calling spade a spade
@@bowxfire5275we will definitely look after our National Interests........Geopolitics doesn't care about Feelings and Emotions
Inki scheme India to bewakuf banane ki hi hoti hain..
MOD is 100% right
No need of desolt
india should look for another Options
India ko Russia se su 35 lene chahiye the jiske samne Rafael kuch nahi hai
Ek Tejas hi Kaafi hai mere yaaro. Kaveri banjaye fir 300 Tejas banao aur samosa party karo. Advanced Air Defense and 300 Tejas MK1A/ MK2 is enough. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is a clever move of Dassult to bag billions of dollars from India and not transfer anything to indian companies.
We have to make our own super fighter jet
Love day ka own fighter jet banwi, wahi samossa tejulal engine dene me katra raha hai usa
@@Shankar_Jangam🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haa thik hai ownership tum rakho..
But 100% revenue aur profit humara hoga😂😂😅😅
Ok done teri sari property ki ownership tum rakho mujhe sara revenue dedo 🎉
Ok done teri sari property ki ownership tum rakho mujhe sara revenue dedo 🎉
once we get dependent, they will ask for revenue without relenting.
Russia never does this to India. They give at least 50 percent ownership to India
100% true! We should develop R&D.
These countries think that India was born yesterday that they can manipulate us..this issue should have been addressed long time ago.. but we got comfortable importing aircraft. We have endure this issue for a few more years..might as well focus on mass producing Tejas mk1A, Tejas mk2 and AMCA and build our own fighter aircraft manufacturing industry.
I've had same issues when dealing with French in past. They negotiate after deal has already been done.
Very good observation.
This is exactly correct.
If India doesn't get 51% ownership then it is no point to give more orders to Dassault . India doesn't own anything or India will not get any IPR
West are blackmailing india due to dependence on west.India should make its own
It's taking too much time, and we don't have it
India should not agree any cost with France
Why is it do you think india unfortunately rejected it. It is fortunate that we have strong leadership who can reject such immature request
It is a JV, how can Dassault take full ownership?
Once Iron brothers are now falling apart ....😂😂😂😂
Tecnology transfer ker rhe hai to kyq dikkat hai yarr ?
Abe beokoof vo dene ki jagah tumse property harpana chahta hai jab us par ownership uski hogi to tumko kya punchh dega?
@@ghanvedsingh8946Bhai main nagpur se hu. Bhai job chahiye agar woh price pe kar rahe hai place ki toh kya dikkat hai
Bhai factory ki owner unhe dedoge toh tumhe kuch nhi milega sari details sb unke paas hi rahegi
Think you want to tranfer technology to country z. There your brother and dad makes two companies and you tranfer the techlogy to them; they will not share with anyone else.
So you technically transfered to country Z but practically did not.
@@gamingpanther7773 ooh now I got it.
5:26 reasons
रिसर्च और डेवलपमेंट में कितना खर्च और एजुकेशन सिस्टम कैसे मजबूत किया जाए जिस भारत को नही पता उससे पैसा लूटना हक है
I am from Nagpur Maharashtra 😊
And road minister nitin gadkari ji from here
We are so close to wars and here indian is fighting for ownership of factory and not for acquiring more fighters
Owner is more important ,dude
Hathiyar hai lekin kya ho agar tum use istemal he na kar pao kyuki tum uske 'OWNER' nhi ho bas usi tareeke ka case ye wala bhi hai manufacturing hamare he desh me hogi lekin wo hamari nhi hogi
India should have agreed to this if there is complete transfer of technology including the engines. We should be able to produce our engines.
Jab factory he tumhari hogi to technology ka transfer kisko karoge khudko 😂😂😂😂
We should invest in Tejas mk1 & mk2.
if we have to pay such huge amount for this then better buy american ones atlest they r better if nothing else, though it might be little difficult c we bought rafale earlier. Changing platform is a curse, still i think given our size, we can manage
Our AMCA AND TEJAS MK2 ,TEDEF PROGRAMME SHOULD BE FAST TRACKED BY GOVT OF INDIA.
Its fortunately humare raksha mantri ne inkaar kiya😅
Jai Sri Ram..Jai Hind..Jai Bharat..OM
Likh k le lo koi ToT nahi dega.. hamare pass koi choice nahi hai, they should accept the deal or choose the american jet under mrfa to avoid us arm twisting.
Ghanta Dasault technology dega, IAF ko agle 10 sal tak kuch bhi milna is now next to impossible 😅
What happened to 100% FDI in defence
Technology दे रहा हैं तो हम मान लेना चाहिए, नहीं तो हमे खुद राफेल जैसा जहाज बना लेना चाहिए, सब बिना खुद से विकसित किए Technology से मांगेंगे तो कोई नहीं देगा.
India should develop own fighter jets
India should import foreign brains and Indian pvt companies to make engines for fighter jets ..
Dassault can't be leader in 5th generation , 6th generation fighter jets . We can always have option of purchasing aircraft for navy from other companies like Boeing , Lockheed Martin or Euro fighter .
Currently our fighter jet requiment is 114 , as economy grows in near future we may require fighter aircraft on regular bases .
We are market of future we can certainly negotiate with American fighter or European fighter .
Samasya ye hai ki technology transfer wo nahi denge aur sath me ye bhi kahenge ki Russia se weapon mat kharido aur tum aage ye technology wale weapons Russia ko nahi bech sakte to fir India kamayega kaise
We need to access the current situation, what's needed and situation at both side of borders.
Purchase fighter aircraft with some best features, we can achieve technology transfer later on too. We are already developing our own fighter aircraft, this purchase is like till we have our own main fighter aircraft.
And some people call France and Russia are reliable partner, 😂😂😂
Quickly
No this is not colinism. India needs to suck it up and take whatever is there as we are still struggling. We cannot just keep asking questions when answers are right in front of us!
India should give small fund to 4-5 start up for radar, engine and other components manufacturing from scratch. I am sure they would be able develop technology
SAHI HAI DEAL....KAR LO INDIA.......DEFENCE EXPORT KAB KAREGA INDIA.....
They are not foolish, they have leverage.
Tejas hi thik aur order so uska aur bvr missile achi lagai usme bas kam ho jayega
France is black mailing India
It is unwise to give full ownership of the critical sefence industry within Bharat.
Complete shares to France is very unwise
What is future of Reliance aero........Gobar bhagat........ don't think....... from Punjab
Isme galat kya hai deal ektarfa thode na hote hai
Ab bus love day Hilavo ..we are at least short by 200 -300 &our politicians wont do nothing ..
ismai govt ki kya galti, video samagh ni aaya ke
They want to copy paste Olympic opening.
To make sure the tot is done properly and absorbed , we need to have an indian partner for sure.
Go for super Hornets, we will be soon manufacturing the engines and Boeing is willing tot on the whole aircraft to the point that the aircraft will be exclusively made in India for domestic and export markets
Super Hornet is right now backbone of US Navy, US won’t allow backbone of their Naval aviation to be produced anywhere except the US.
Everyone threatening india Earlier US now France.
I do not think in contested air space Rafale can escape from chinese radar n they have S400 Also. So india shd opt for Su57 russian jets instead of Rafale with a condition that Russia transfers technology inclufing AL51 Jet engine
Isme foolish kya hai? That is how businesses work.
No one is going to gv aircraft engine & TOT. All are fake, better reduce testing time and bring, Tejas MK1 & 2 & AMCA to production lines ASAP
Another example of western Hypocrisy
Hats off to gujrat's people they know how to make best deal 🎉
Gujarat walo ne hi to deal Kari thi
Seriously pata nahi kitna decade ho gaya abhi bhi ek fighter jet karid nahi pa rahe ho...kya bole ab...IAF ki arkat dekhkar ab gussa araha hain...IAF ki filal jo halat hain na Pakistan se bhi jit nahi paoge...China to bhul jao...sala ek fighter jet ka deal nahi kara jara hain...thu..
Bhai jab intellectual property rights aur technology unki hai to aur agar woh ownership mang rahe hai toh galat kya. Hamara goal sirf make in India aur uss technology ki knowledge lena aur sikhna hona chahiye jaise ki china ne 1990 s main pehle sikha phir usse apni technology develop ki. Yeh ownership ke chakkar main koi bhi country india main invest nahi karega. Ab agar apple ne iPhones india main apni factory laga rakhi hai. Toh iska matlab kya woh apni ownership india ko transfer kar de. Meri samaj se toh indian govt. Ki demand samajh se pare hai.
By Russian fighter Su 35 in MRFA 114 fighter
Just talk with other countries first
Ownership chahiye beta😂
Advanced Technology koi nahi dega. Hamen China ki tarah khud hi innovations karane honge. Proposal employment ke liye thik hai par iske dusare kya implications honge yah sarkar hi jaan sakati hai.
U turn is under us pressure
Ughgh Just offer them 4X there market worth and says Dassault aviation would have full control but Dassault aviations would have full Indian control 😂😂
France is anyways broke this is a good opportunity to buy crown jewel of France.
Kya France apne Snecma M88 Engine ki 100% technology transfer karega India ko? Aur kya Nagpur Maharashtra me jo Facility hai unme saare Indian worker hi kaam karenge?
Mere personal opinion me agr France is ke liye agree kar jaae to hame jarur aage badhna chahiye 😅
Kyo dayy ownership unkho bhi humkhovsaffaron Kay engine ki jarurat nahi hai kyo ki itnee power kaa engine toh kavari provide karwatta hee hai 80kn humkho France Kay sath meelkar Naya core engine banna hai joh Beena after burner 60to65kn thirst dayy aur over all thirst 120kn after burner chalnya per mellya
korean kf-21 join krna isse behtar rahega,wo bhi ek partner dund rhe engine ke liye....
Korea nahi dega technique itne bhole kyu ho koi bhi technology nahi deta har desh Russia nahi hai India ke liye
@@fatihsultanmehmet6490 engine sath banane ki baat kr rha hu, uske pass bhi engine nhi hai...bhola hu bebkoof nhi...
@@theaistoriess south Korea ne offer nahi diya hame uske pass America jaise allies hai jo use sath dete aye hain
Hamlog apna rafale bna lenge uske baad factory ko France ko de denge export ke liye
It’s our challenge to make a jet engine we what to go forward with it use all our valuable and engenering abilities us all our source to make it possible
When you are dependent on foreign countries for your defense requirements you’ll be bullied similarly 🤣🤦 pull some strings of your HAL DRDO ADA etc who’re just wasting time in their jobs because of no accountability
Absurd idea
France can not replace USA evn having so musch talent and skills because of no vision.
And they want me should leave russia
France sell hi nahi korega kiyuki technology transfer korega Bhai france unpor somosta 4-5 billion ke liye technology transfer korega Bhai mujhe nahi logta west itna fool ho sokta hai
🤣😁भारत को उल्लू/ पागल समझा है क्या..???
Chalagaya tho ek bath nahi tho ek hathi ise ek kalath hena . Wo he . Bachith karthe raho final hamara intrest succes hone tak . Sukoi bi ise aana india me .
ये मांग गलत है
Su 57 is best for India...
😂😂
What kind of tot is that... They should at least sign a deal similar to brahmos
Ab usa sab hathkande apnayega bharat ke khilaf.
Gore to gore hain aakhir.
Would F ' off have been too subtle?
😂
West soon face new crisis and still think they are super .....joker 😂
Nahi chahiye rakhlo rafale apne paas
Sir news pad ke sunate hai
अभी तक सोच अंग्रजों वाली है 😂😂😂😂😂
amca nahi babega aur hoga to bhi chalega but west usa russia in sab ki aukat dikhana chahiye..india apne dum par jet banana chahiye
Cancell karo rafail ko bhar mey jay france
India should buy rafale jets to keep our IAF in fighting condition till tejas mk2 and amca comes in reality.
Nehi
Behind the screen aur aur hua hoga, so they r become so much demanding.. still that matter not close in France but in india clean sheet with close files 😂
Wo toh bolenge hi hamare desh ki baski nahi hai bnana.. Toh aisa hi hog.. Tumko wo hathiyar bhi de and technology bhi de aisa hai kya tumhare pass... ..
Negosation karnee chiya per ownership toh hamaree hogee agar nahi mantya toh fir rolls royal say concern karna chiya yaha rolls royal kaa matlab sirf britan sauvhai uskya paach friend country say nahi rolls royal khoveuro jet ki jaghah Naya engine core banana hai jesmya India investment kargga aur ipr right bhee bhart aur rolls royal kaa hogga
Good sagi kiya india ko jet chaiye. Pr koi abhi tak manta nahi. Aane ko.. Fer india khud k shuru bnane holi holi bnege.. Kyoke je fightee jet india k hai is liye oura haq india ka hoga. Agr koi na bi aye.. Fer bi indian defense khud bnana shuru kre.. Desh piche na ho jaye ialiye jald shuru krne hoge jet ki teyari. India khud hatyaro ko bna rha ia liye thoda peeche chala geya hai..