S6 E5| Jeff Stanton

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  • Jeff Stanton is a 6-time supercross and motocross champion. With an old-school work ethic and unwavering discipline, the Michigan mafia member carved out a career that puts him in echelons amongst the all-time greats.
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  • @CoachRobbBeams
    @CoachRobbBeams หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Thank you, David, for getting this legend on the show - absolutely epic. I remember the first time that I met Jeff was when Bevo brought him into the Scott rig - I still have a picture of meeting him hanging in my office today. Jeff has always been the epitome of class (like yourself David) - awesome show! Thank you for all the time and effort necessary to put these together.

  • @55tmilam
    @55tmilam หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The race that Damon said he was going to kick everybody’s ass before the race was Saturday night Pontiac 1990! It is classic!

  • @billburke5062
    @billburke5062 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had a surprise chance meeting up with Jeff Stanton during one of his adv tours at a gas station in his neck of the woods a couple of summers ago. We had a brief chat but he’s an outstanding guy & easy to talk to.
    A true legend & hero to so many of us!

  • @amdguru34
    @amdguru34 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FINALLY!! I have been wanting to listen to Stanton's story forever! I was introduced to moto in 1990 & became a Stanton fan! While Lamson & Henry are my all-time favorites, Stanton will always have a special place in my heart! Thank you, Mr. Pingree!

  • @jimbenedict1257
    @jimbenedict1257 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always followed Jeff because I liked him and he was local hero. At the last Red Bud in 1994, evidently everyone knew he was going to announce his retirement at the award ceremony but me. On the last lap, I was down at the triple right before the 180, leading to the wall jump and I was literally the last one there. He comes over the jump, looks down, points at me, and finishes up his remaining lap. I learned shortly thereafter he was retiring, and that was his last “official” lap at Red Bud as a professional. Just one of many neat moments!

  • @ecoultmx96
    @ecoultmx96 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks David and Jeff for the great interview.

  • @JokersWild70
    @JokersWild70 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Was just watching Anaheim 1993 less than a week ago, where MC put that pass on Jeff and thus, began the Jeremy era. I do remember Jeff announcing his retirement at Red Bud '94. He'd clearly had enough of pro racing. He was definitely a tough, no nonsense competitor who wasnt a pretty rider, but beat everyone with fitness and grit. An inspiration.
    First race I attended was Seattle in '94. Pretty sure Jeff raced that one. Ping, dont know if you remember this but there was a dead dog found in the Kingdome dirt. Ugh...bon appetit!

  • @jeremiahlewis9288
    @jeremiahlewis9288 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow! What a huge improvement in production. Colors are more vibrant, sound is crisp, pictures shown on screen now! Nice work! Great show! Stanton was my favorite rider

  • @albertcorreia3866
    @albertcorreia3866 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a great show. Much respect to the Stanton legend 👍🏁

  • @harvey663able
    @harvey663able หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jeff was my supercross/motocross hero. He is the reason I got into racing in the early 90's. I'm a Michigan kid as well. I wish I could still ride but can't afford it the cost I'd to high for it now days. But I still want a 92 cr 250 replica. I even have a blue Stanton replica helmet from the early 90's.

  • @jmr_56
    @jmr_56 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jeff was my favorite rider growing up and it's awesome to see that he is such a good guy outside of moto.

  • @muscle-milk-ktm1346
    @muscle-milk-ktm1346 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jeff is an all round nice guy! Brilliant interview.

  • @55tmilam
    @55tmilam หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Secession MX park was in Anderson SC. They hosted 1 national in 87

  • @scottworatyla3277
    @scottworatyla3277 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Gret podcast Ping! Stanton is a true ambassador to our sport

  • @danielgibbs7134
    @danielgibbs7134 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Listening to this man, and his accolades with a degree of modesty and humility, is truly inspiring. Humble at that level of success, simply attributing his success to moral grounding and hard work with a purpose.
    Legend status. Sadly I wasn't a big fan in his hayday bc of the timing maybe, idk. Other stars of the time were more flashy maybe?
    But now, reflection and experience have changed a lot for most us.
    Thanks Ping, nice work !

  • @DS-oi4wl
    @DS-oi4wl หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:44:52 I was there at the 1990 Anaheim 1 Supercross when Bayle landed on the haybale and cartwheeled. Larry Huffman was on the stadium microphone and yelled, "AND BAYLE HITS A BALE AND HE BAILS!!!!" 😁

    • @DavidPingree_WTMG101
      @DavidPingree_WTMG101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huffman was such a legend on the mic

    • @DS-oi4wl
      @DS-oi4wl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DavidPingree_WTMG101 Here is another one by Huffman: "THEY'RE SWAPPING LIKE A HOLLYWOOD PARTY!!!!!" 😂

  • @raymondharold5973
    @raymondharold5973 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When he first took over from RJ l was bummed because it didn’t feel like RJ had gotten to end his career like we figured it would go down and we knew he been helped along by Rick. Hearing the story about how that came about really filled in the gaps. He was always a real athlete and made our sport a very exciting experience.

  • @shaneleyden622
    @shaneleyden622 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    April 12th 1994 Tampa SX, it was Emig's dirty riding tactics causing Stanton to crash an made his decision to retire that year. Great interview!!!

  • @timothykelly5588
    @timothykelly5588 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the biggest problem is no free, fun,convenient places to ride

    • @markrice2821
      @markrice2821 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tons of places to ride in Michigan!

    • @fmradio42
      @fmradio42 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, NJ Pine Barrons area all gone. last 30+ years

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For me, Jeff's standout performance was at the 1991 Motocross des Nations in Holland. Such a gutsy ride.

  • @jmr_56
    @jmr_56 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The 1994 Tampa incident was a tangle with Emig. They had a run in at the next round in Atlanta too.

  • @brentcarr8365
    @brentcarr8365 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is absolutely an amazing interview. Thanks a million for bringing these legends to the show!! Thanks Dave 🏁

  • @kevintalbot8341
    @kevintalbot8341 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The man who single handedly blew up the SoCal juggernaut dominance of the sport, he was an animal on a dirtbike !

  • @carmelotansengco4605
    @carmelotansengco4605 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In '92, Damon won five races in a row from round 2 to round 6. He was on the way to winning Daytona which would have been his sixth straight but Jeff got him there.

  • @DS-oi4wl
    @DS-oi4wl หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's a badass jersey behind Stanton...even for this era.

    • @harvey663able
      @harvey663able หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's from axo. That was from his last championship in 92, I believe. Jeff, and Damon Bradshaw both ran axo gear. Fox was coming on strong in the 90's and blew up around the mid 90's. Another great set of looking gear was sinsolo, (sp?). Wardy I believe finished his career in it. Both companies are sadly long gone.

  • @kjmaury5116
    @kjmaury5116 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stanton or Payton should 100% be the usa team manager

  • @ericd385
    @ericd385 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great show! 6time is one of my first moto hero’s
    Awesome to see what a genuine guy he is and great job on the interview ping!

  • @markmcg777
    @markmcg777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeff I watched you and cheered for you. As a farm boy growing up and I heard your story at Steel City in 1987. An advantage or disadvantage depending on how you feel, when you make hay square bales on a 90+ degree day, you don’t stop because you are to hot or tired. That hay needs baled and in the barn.

  • @russbohlinger4022
    @russbohlinger4022 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ping! Let me fix your audio issues. Love your stuff brother, lets chat on the audio control and set up.

    • @GIT2WORK747
      @GIT2WORK747 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They that was hard to take. Some people's voices just aren't made for radio.

    • @zachklamfoth7583
      @zachklamfoth7583 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s Jeff he needs the mic in his face

    • @scottackerman8981
      @scottackerman8981 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zachklamfoth7583 yeah he mumbles and up and down tone.

  • @liamhotspur9182
    @liamhotspur9182 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saw him twice, one in Maastricht/Holland with RJ all business and ready to kill face. Second in Valkenswaard MXDN, Damon rode good but MX Kid got teached a riding lesson. The track was UNBELIEVABLE destroyed last moto and Mr. Stanton just got warmed up... We could not believe what we saw from him, almost unhuman.

  • @shannonbrewer871
    @shannonbrewer871 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ill tell ya what ping ive seen all of these shows been with you from day one. And i remember after watching episode 1 i thought this is the best motocross show ever and i immediately made a list of who id love to see on this show and this guy was in my top five i still have the list too and keep checking them off. Anything with stanton on it is awesome and to top it off wardy was on last time he was also one of my top five awesome

  • @JokersWild70
    @JokersWild70 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It was as I thought: Stanton had a run in with Jeff Emig at the '94 Tampa SX. No surprise there

  • @jamesshirley8884
    @jamesshirley8884 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    44:11 in 1987 there was a national at Lake Secession MX in Anderson, SC. I don't remember much details about it.

    • @55tmilam
      @55tmilam หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The only national that was held there. Rick Johnson won the 250 class and Donny Schmitt the 125

  • @jdc8352
    @jdc8352 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This show is awesome. As usual.

  • @teamflanneloutdoors5631
    @teamflanneloutdoors5631 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Midwest guy here so definitely watched Stantons early days. That Hi-Point gear was sano! Was at bikeweek 89', Bayle won Gainesville, Stanton was pissed in the pits! Bradshaw won Daytona 125's, I think probably Jeff battled Wardy I'll have to watch it now. Larry Ward was Honda "support" 125 #971 in 89'.
    Thanks again, killer interview, dig the channel👍👍

  • @DS-oi4wl
    @DS-oi4wl หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stanton was great...and is still great.

  • @ArdenBallard
    @ArdenBallard หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely amazing show Ping.

  • @ronaldtravis970
    @ronaldtravis970 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He raced in a seriously competitive time 🤘

  • @Powersparky59
    @Powersparky59 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So cool back in the day we had keith bowen,eddie warren ,jeff stanton , brian swink ,niko izzi ,michigan used to put out some great racers , oh ya brock tickle

    • @Rideeverydayofficial
      @Rideeverydayofficial หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dehoop

    • @jinoziniosti5633
      @jinoziniosti5633 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rideeverydayofficial Dehoop was the first MIchigan Mafia racer on the Whiskey Throttle show.

  • @55tmilam
    @55tmilam หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Broc Glover has the same story about his last SX coming back to an empty box van,and he won the race!!!!!!!

  • @JayEss414
    @JayEss414 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video . cool dudes.

  • @tpm3092
    @tpm3092 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    JMB wasn't the last 500 National Champ. I believe Larocco was in '93, when they went to 8 250 rds and 4 500 rounds

  • @jmr_56
    @jmr_56 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting thing about 91 was that Jeff had 4 wins in the 250 nationals and JMB didnt win any, but took the title. At the Hangtown mudder (only ran a single moto that day) Stanton, Ward, and Bradshaw all had dnfs while JMB got 2nd. Jeff also had a disasterous 2nd moto at Troy that sank his year.

  • @guschristensen5671
    @guschristensen5671 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great podcast the Bigelow you forgot was Kirk, he was the oldest, great hearing the Michigan guy

  • @markrice2821
    @markrice2821 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outstanding Interview. My first win was at Baja Acres! "By sure luck lol" I knew Eddie Warren 801 very well. Also, Bob Hannah was everybody's Idle at that time! If I remember correctly Log Road was very hard pack and rocky track.

  • @carmelotansengco4605
    @carmelotansengco4605 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eight full seasons, six national titles and three des nations titles. Not bad.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Daytona.......1987........Epic.

  • @thomasmarr6347
    @thomasmarr6347 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Growing up in Sherwood Mi there were rumors that Jeff would drive his ford ranger around during the summer with the Heat blowing to help get himself in shape for moto he was a beast 😎

  • @neillezotte6818
    @neillezotte6818 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great interview. Wish Jeff's mic was placed better. Volume is up and down

  • @DS-oi4wl
    @DS-oi4wl หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:09:16 I believe Bayle won Gainsville when Johnson got hurt and even wore "Starbuster" on the back of his race pants to indicate he was gunning for the top guys.

  • @KirtVoreis
    @KirtVoreis หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stanton was my childhood hero! I got to hang out with him in 1995 after a MTB race in Traverse city, MI. I spent a week at his farm and rode the Honda practice track with him and Steve Lamson. At the end of the week Jeff, Lamson and I went out on a street motorcycle cruise to his buddies house. On the way home Lamson and I rode side by side on Honda Valkyrie cruisers and Jeff was ahead of us on a XR 500. We went under a freeway overpass with Jeff leading. As we came out the other side a lady in a station wagon loses her brakes and runs through the intersection T-boning Jeff at about 50 mph. Lamson and I locked up the brakes and almost hit the wagon as Jeff gets launched rag doll into the air then slamming into a bus stop. It was unreal. We ran over to him and it was not a good sight, he was really banged up with blood foaming from his mouth. We waited for ambulance and got him to the hospital. My dad died on a street bike when i was a kid so it was very emotional for me to witness. Crazy to meet your hero and then watch him almost die in front of you. I will never forget that week with him and Lamson.

    • @shawngrimm2118
      @shawngrimm2118 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bob Hannah designed and built lake Secession

    • @Rideeverydayofficial
      @Rideeverydayofficial หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely nuts! Iceman mtb race?

    • @KirtVoreis
      @KirtVoreis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RideeverydayofficialBack in the early nineties Stanton, Jeff Ward and Paul Tracy raced for the company I rode for, Yeti cycles. The owner was good friends with them and would build them custom race bikes and invite them to our XC and DH nationals. Was a rad time! Even got to work with Mert Lawwill designing DH bikes.

    • @derekmattice3077
      @derekmattice3077 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rideeverydayofficial Shanty Creek in Traverse City, MI hosted a Norba National until the mid 90s.

  • @Gpx111
    @Gpx111 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thorpe last ride on 500 honda factory .he retired in 93

  • @David_Boyd_
    @David_Boyd_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome 👌 show

  • @Bobby83060
    @Bobby83060 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Question. Ping, do you think we need to bring back the 125 class. Something more affordable for the kid that wants to give moto a go.

    • @DavidPingree_WTMG101
      @DavidPingree_WTMG101 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely!

    • @harvey663able
      @harvey663able หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im not ping but ping has stated on gypsy tails podcast that a 125 is needed to make the jump from super mini to big bikes is needed because the 250s are a bit much for the kids. I agree it should be part of it. Look at Deegan. Just before he signed with star he was on a ktm. As he was making a switch from super mini to star he had a few shows where he was on a ktn 125 to help ease the curve to the 250s. It was only a short time tho. In my opinion it will help kids learn to flow a bit better and COULD help stop some of the injuries that come from the no fear styles of kids. I also think between 250s and 450s some of the top guys should run a 2 stroke 250 to learn a bit more and ease that curve as well. You really have to flow with a 2 stroke even a 250 2 smoker.

    • @liamhotspur9182
      @liamhotspur9182 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nobody needs 4strokes in Motocross!

    • @jinoziniosti5633
      @jinoziniosti5633 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@liamhotspur9182 well the posers and the vets ..

  • @DS-oi4wl
    @DS-oi4wl หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:21:36 Bob Hannah asked Stanton about retiring and if he missed it. "No," he said.
    "Then you made the right decision," Hannah told him.
    I like what Hannah said in an interview once about why he retired -- "Because I got tired of twistin' up my knees and landin' on my head," he said.😄

  • @daykin17
    @daykin17 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Larocco was the last 500 champ

    • @derekmattice3077
      @derekmattice3077 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In 1993 as well, that was the final year of the split schedule with the 250s.

  • @voodootele
    @voodootele หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great interview as always. Its crazy to think he referred to himself as the old guy, when he was only 24. I think his appearance had a lot to do with my perception of how old he was. When I look at the footage of him at the 1989 MXON, he was only 20 but he looks 30! I bet Stanton could grow a beard and had a hairy chest at 12 years of age.

  • @shawngrimm2118
    @shawngrimm2118 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lake Secession was Anderson SC

  • @Powersparky59
    @Powersparky59 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember being at polka dots race track in midland mich i was racing the 125 B class and i seen this guy hauling ass and found out it was jeff

  • @Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on
    @Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What year and race was it when Jeff whiskey throttled out of a corner.??.

    • @carmelotansengco4605
      @carmelotansengco4605 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you're talking about Binghampton 1994.

    • @fmradio42
      @fmradio42 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@carmelotansengco4605 Broom Tioga is when he went off the track into the bushes?

    • @fmradio42
      @fmradio42 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I found it on Facebook.
      Ward 🆚 Stanton [‘89 Dallas SX ~ final lap battle] #AtlantaMotoCrew #CamelSupercross #89DallasSX #Supercross #JeffStanton #JeffWard.

    • @carmelotansengco4605
      @carmelotansengco4605 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fmradio42 Yes. I think that was John Dowd's first ride as a factory Yamaha rider.

  • @TheLoopy989
    @TheLoopy989 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t know how you tease this guy seems like the most salt of the earth down to earth great guy in the world so I’ll give him that. but for some reason I keep thinking of good times for SNL good times… yeah good times…

  • @fmradio42
    @fmradio42 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard Jeff was on a road bike at a stop traffic light when a car hit the back of him. that JMB initials story is in Mcgrath's book Wide open.

    • @liamhotspur9182
      @liamhotspur9182 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What happened?!

    • @fmradio42
      @fmradio42 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@liamhotspur9182 Not sure, happened few years ago.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its crazy that a full time workers in the US only gets two weeks off, the lowest in the OECD.

  • @JokersWild70
    @JokersWild70 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Correction: LaRocco was the last 500 champ in 1993. 1993 was the last year of the split, was it not? I seem to remember Kiedrowski winning the 250 MX title that year, and then he ran the #1 plate in the 500 class, but lost to LaRocket. Also JMB is the only rider to win 3 AMA championships in one year. That can never be tied or beaten either. All 3 were legitimate seasons in their own right, so a 2 round "World Supercross" title, which was sanctioned by the FIM anyways, doesnt count

  • @Tommo47NZ
    @Tommo47NZ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep

  • @Bobby83060
    @Bobby83060 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Deegan was blessed with a silver spoon life, and he seems to be damn good.

    • @markrice2821
      @markrice2821 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He has great work ethic and desire. Love the kid! It's all about the parents!

  • @scottackerman8981
    @scottackerman8981 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stanton could win anywhere on any given day, he was just a monster in his time and we are lucky he was on the Des Nations team. But his interviews were always soooo boring, he even sounds boring in this interview (when you could hear him). Of course Ping made it a great show.

  • @Rideeverydayofficial
    @Rideeverydayofficial หลายเดือนก่อน

    Larocco was last 500 champ. Was only 4-5 races

  • @downshiftdan
    @downshiftdan หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Jeff, why did you tell the Twitch Stenberg to bug off when he asked you for your autograph?

  • @SB405-xj9vm
    @SB405-xj9vm หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stanton was a Man Among Men! Work ethic, dedication and a desire to win. However, JEFF WAS WRONG WRONG WRONG about Robbie Reynard!!! Robbie didn’t grow up privileged. He grew up with BOTH of his parents and older sister. Trust me, they weren’t rich and neither Robbie or his sister were privileged! His parents and sister sacrificed everything for his racing! Just like Jeff did with Yamaha, Robbie received amateur support from Kawasaki. Yes, Robbie was considered the next (big thing, which was warranted) but injuries derailed that. However, he was never privileged!!!

  • @JosephDredd31
    @JosephDredd31 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    David ,We don't race anymore because of the "COST", It's just too much in the economy were currently in. 10K just for a bike that only last's a season for most racers is just too much.

  • @AdamKarriem
    @AdamKarriem หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought LaRocco was the last 500 champion.

  • @Powersparky59
    @Powersparky59 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive went to detroit races for a long time so i know what im talking about my first race my mom drove 3 hours to pontiac silverdome in 1977 and i watched bob hannah battle with kent howerton and jeff ward was in the 125 class but dam jeff we paid you

  • @normandbaillargeon2214
    @normandbaillargeon2214 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I bought a Ezra Lusk practice bike 95 rm 250 from ED longacre. Gold anadized gold fork tubes hand built pipe totally a piece of crap

  • @randykirschbaum7261
    @randykirschbaum7261 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ping, you are one of the best but please don't interrupt the guest to tell us your stories. We know your story because you had your own podcast already. Thanks

  • @Powersparky59
    @Powersparky59 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think it’s ridiculous that jeff feels he had to be a idiot to fans to win a race , its us fans that pay you , that was the most ridiculous thing i ever heard

  • @jordanwhisson5407
    @jordanwhisson5407 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can’t stand bs god botherer’s

  • @RussellHache
    @RussellHache หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's too many commercials you're getting too greedy I stopped viewing the video because of too many commercials

    • @DavidPingree_WTMG101
      @DavidPingree_WTMG101 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Greedy? I don't monetize the show with TH-cam... take it up with them.

    • @RussellHache
      @RussellHache หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ok thank for explaining that to me. Wow I wish Jeff would of spoke into the mic. LOL

  • @dougdickason
    @dougdickason หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, i do have one big issue, disagreement with Stanton, when he brought up Trey Canard "taking out Chad Reed and then not expecting Chad to return the favor as "Chad blasted him right after they got up. As distinguished as Stanton is, im surprised that he doesn't know that the reason why Trey wasn't expecting a payback was because it was all Chads fault that Trey took him.out. Chad basically cross jumped Trey over a small table (i believe it was a table) jumping from the right side (outside) to the left side (inside) while Trey maintained the left (inside) line the whole time and so their lines came together as they were landing...because Chad changed his line in mid air. That's why Trey wasn't expecting Chad to respond, not that Trey was some dimwit mindlessly jumping into people.