But they already have proportional representation in Congress and the state legislature. They actually want more representation then they should have proportionally which is an anti-democratic movement. This is just a power grab for conservatives.
I live in Cleveland, OH. Ohio is terribly gerrymandered with 26 of 33 seats in the Ohio senate being held by Republicans, and 67 of 99 House seats are held by Republicans. Over 70% of these seats are held by Republicans, but Ohio is nowhere near a 70% Republican state. Trump won Ohio in 2020 by 8%. I have several of the same complaints as the people who want to create the state of Jefferson do. Columbus does not represent me or my area's interests. Should Cuyahoga County, which has 1.3 million people, be able to form our own state?
@@fishbone3333 Screw the US Constitution; the federal government is not going to exist in a few more years anyway, thereby rendering all that garbage null and void. You people act like this country is somehow an exception to history and is going to last forever, but it's not.
Even though I'm live in Bay Area, I hope that California split up. It's unfair for California's rural and farmers to be subjected to the atrocities of the Urban's policy and laws.
Rather than flee to Idaho or Texas I'm planning to take my education, skill set, and retirement income back to California and join the battle. Jefferson is long overdue.
@Menacing Ship The Constitution says states cannot be created from other states. (Article IV). Even if California AGREED to allow for the creation of Jefferson, any state in the union could challenge it and take it to the SCOTUS. Jefferson could only exist with a change in the Constitution or outright SCOTUS corruption. Article IV: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
@@sircoloniser5454 When W. Virginia was created, Virginia had seceded, so the circumstances were unique. The creation of W. VA was a clear violation of Article IV. As I said in my previous comment, it require a SCOTUS to completely ignore that constitutional provision for it to happen. Fast forward 150 years, there is no way something like this is going to be allowed to happen. There are way too many small, rural states already, which is the primary reason why the Senate is broken.
As a Californian , we should do our best to make it a better place . If it's true that it is not possible to separate then we should take advantage of the connections we have on the inside . As for the communities we should learn to be literate in Finances and law . We would move mountains when channeling our energy to create physical wealth such as clean water and work with nature to create more places that need water , more gardens not lawns , give land back to the natives , learn from the natives, remodel old buildings to place the homeless. No more complaining . No more division . Only solutions ! Enough with this Republican this and Democrat do that . We all have something in common , that California is in a hole , do we want to to dig it deeper with the fighting ? Or do we want to organize and crawl out of it ?
Yes, this is long over due. California has too many electoral votes. It should be cut up redistricting, play the demonrat party. Jerry mandering. Love to a Californian that talks like this. Keep fighting.
If i ever became a billionaire i would help so many people keeping their small businesses going …..a hospital for our people our farming will be farming again with real vegetables no crap in them i hope this will pass oregon idaho and northern ca
Baird is right. They're not poor. They've been impoverished by the state's environmentalist policies enacted by people that see themselves as noble stewards of nature yet live lives entirely separate from nature and reality. California gets it's water from Mount Shasta. Separate mount Shasta from the state of California and California would be a debtor state to the state of Jefferson. It'd take a small army to cut the water supply off from Mount Shasta to lower California and Jefferson could effectively have their demands met.
State succession is fascinating. Especially with the larger States. Can a State as large and diverse as California really fulfill the needs of it’s people? It’s possibly a microcosm of if the Federal government was really the only legislative government and State governments were more so “local councils” in affect. I’ve moved around a lot so the argument if you don’t like it, move to another State is not a big deal for me. But some folks have real roots somewhere, they love where they’re at. They would rather fight to make it more the home they want.
Jimmy Drake for California Governor local man, husband, brother, father, union steward, and constitutionalist. A small town man with small business at heart. I will continue to fight evil and fight for the people to bring back justice to the people. Please spread the word and share.
In effect, the state of California must give permission for the counties to officially secede from the union. It is the only federally legal way to form a new state that is comprised of an already established state. Until this happens, their last methods of secession would have to happen a la West Virginia, California declaring secession from the Union in which the State of Jefferson would then be allowed to petition for Statehood to the Union.
@@tawnyasteele2274 Happy to hear from you Thanks! Pretty excited about that prospect. Really hope to see this process gain more steam! Nothing is better than to see people collectively take control of their own future from a societal perspective.
@@seasonfilms9375 as a person from Chicago I 100% support this and I really hope it happens the ppl of Jefferson need representation if Kentucky was allowed to separate from Virginia then Jefferson should be able to separate from California there 2 different ppl hopefully this picks up steam this must happen
@@Landad_ Yes I know. They want to secede from Cali, however Cali essentially has to give them permission. Until Cali does this, the State of Jefferson's only means of seceding from California lies upon California choosing to secede from the USA; as they would no longer be beholden to federal or state law the State of Jefferson would then be able to appeal directly to U.S. for statehood. This is essentially my previous comment just reworded and with extra nuance.
I’m a Californian from the Valley. At first like the video host I thought this idea was stupid. But what he says actually makes sense. So i am neutral on this movement, but leaning closer to the State of Jefferson Session side.
@@BlueTyphoon2017 you really think a random state can just form and sustain itself between California and Oregon? Not possible bro. Plus, like someone said, the state and Congress won’t allow it
Kind of arrogant reporter, but I think they make a lot of sense. Why not? Let them split off and maybe give DC statehood at the same time. Everyone would be happy.
idk . #1. I think you guys are looking at this as people with already strong opinions who are heavily involved in politics/following politics etc, but the vast majority of regular people are not like that, alot of people dont live & breath politics& that makes their views & understanding of things more malleable& able to be altered when encountering solid arguemnts they cant refute, like most people may have a deeper level grasp on a few core views that they care about, if even that, but if you asked then to argue for a certain policy or position alot of people on many things would only have a more surface level grasp & wouldn't necessarily be able to effectively address solid counter arguements, alot of people are just more undecided or just don't have enough of a nuanced understanding of a topic to fully defend a certain view so hearing a debate &depending who is more convincing in it could really make someone question or shift their position on it...not necessarily for like general overarching poltical tendencies but for the specifics of differnt positions & if enough of these are questioned it eventually shift someone over to left or right & #2. also, it's not like ONE single debate is going to change someone's mind, but I think being exposed to certain arguements& counter arguements over the course of a number or debates can start to lead to a more moderation of ingrained views & over time(it could be relatively short for some or longer for others) actually shift someone's opinion completely. so I don't really think this is true. I think online the right dominated in making it APPEAR like they have the winning arguements by debating young college kids who mostly don't articulate good arguements to support their opinions or even know how to defend them in a debate, but if the left could get better at using these kind of tactics & debating & such It would really even the online rhetoric in a way that I think could be really helpful. I even went through a period of total question everything I believed after a kind of right-wing TH-cam pipeline but after like a year of feeling politically homeless & really working through a nuanced reasoning for my positions, & definitely encountering the left wing TH-cam sphere was helpful in balancing the right wing views that were overwhelming the feeds initially& bringing me back to reality a bit, I can more confidently understand how all those ben shapiro & crowder & so on arguements don't work & are hypocritical& so forth& can call my self a left/independent person & argue for my positions without questioning everything & wondering "who" was right in these debates & policies
Unfortunately the Limousine Liberal Californians would take advantage of the better taxes, housing market, wide open spaces and move there upon retirement and vote for the same principles like thy do in NV and the rest of the west that made them leave. If you need a good example look at the housing market in Lake Tahoe and notice the price difference across each state line. Nevada side is more in demand by Bay Area retirees.
Per the Constitution: " New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress." "Jefferson" is a non-starter. If the people there don't like it, then they should try harder to win elections and to help people understand why their policy positions are superior to the policy positions of those they oppose. FFS, I don't see the people of Austin, TX wanting to become their own state (which BTW, would be a state twice the population of Jefferson). When it comes to these silly separatist movements, it's always white rural people who are upset that they don't get to control everything. Call the wahmbulance.
Your gonna regret saying that when you see the black population and Hispanic population vote red in 2024 because of the white liberals extremism on lgbtq and taxes
The only illegal is those who stand on land that was stolen from their own ancestors those coming back N or S this is their land but since God said we can share maybe you should apply for a passport which I doubt you deserve placing a flag where there is already a flag so disrespectful !
@@MovieGuy666 moron you don't know nothing about history that's why your movies lie alot? Of course it was stolen from Mexico and before? and both times my side of indian was present in fact all of Mexico and South America we're still Indian look at our brown skin our black hair and they want to put a wall ? This is my ancestors land but because I believe in God of course it's really God's he gave to Indian first then all the rest of us blondie or brown and of course Indian don't deserve a wall in their own ancestor land total abuse,shame we living still those times Why God is unleashing mother nature study bible then you will really get smart ,me too . 😇
@@almaescobar2371 Mexicans don't get to consider themselves Indians fighting colonialism, because Mexicans are descended from Spain's native allies that aided them against the Aztecs. There is a reason both the Mayans and Apaches have always hated you. You submitted to Hispanicism long ago and that is all you will ever be, Hispanics. It doesn't matter how many Aztec symbols you steal. And it is funny how you pretend being dark is because of Indian admixture, pretending Spaniards aren't themselves half-Moorish Southern Europeans.
Southern California…central california(s.f and sactown)…anything above sac town…TRUE NORTH…north state🙏🏽I’m born in socal…nowhere compares…to the beautiful true north of California…sf isn’t Northern California 😂
It's only in recent decades that youth have been magically imbued with special insight. In centuries past society understood how fickle and foolish are young minds.
@yourmomsboyfrend Yes I like meters because then we don't have people stealing tons of water. And I have no problem with most of the gun laws. Again, if you like less restrictive gun laws, there are definitely other states where you would be happier.
@Normie meme It’s true though. It won’t happen for the next 100 years, unless D.C/Puerto Rico (or both) are made into states and a red congress tries to even the balance by making Jefferson, which Trump won in super majorities in 2016.
I live on SJ....I'm moving up to Jefferson. Because the state of Jefferson represents the way I want to live....the local government around here doesn't represent me any more. I think after covid all this will change....people want to leave the bayarea in droves. All I ask is the other flat landers don't come too and bring their stupid politics that I'm trying to escape from.
I feel your pain, I live in southern New Jersey. The southern HALF of our state has a fraction of the population in the north. We are blue-collar, farmers, hunters, fishermen, patriotic. The north is urban, entitled, elite, pro-sanctuary, leftist. We have no voice, NJ always goes blue.
Maryland is very similar, a few neighborhoods outside of DC as well as Baltimore turn an entire state filled with miles of rural land and hard working farmers into an eternal blue state.
Lol don't forget chicago and illinois let cook County separate from Illinois cook County is the second most populated County with over 6 million ppl and controls way to much of the state of Illinois and I'm from Chicago
@Table-Country pinxing THRYM Firearms 27 many reasons. Mainly, the leadership is off the rails. Also, I don't believe in their far-right political ideology.
@Table-Country pinxing THRYM Firearms 27 lol there are hardly any liberal supporters of this. Less than 5%, more likely 1 to 2%. of course, if you have any data to back up this claim, I would love to see it. I have no data other than what I see on social media.
The problem with some of the people interviewed clearly support Trump and MAGA! Anyone who supports the radical right are not patriotic Americans! Just the opposite! Oh, and I was born and raised in northern California. Still live here.
I noticed there are several Democratic counties that are part of this movement (I live in one of them). Why would they support this movement since Jefferson would be a Republican state?
It's a bit delusional of these people to believe that both Oregon and California would be willing to give up thousands of miles of valuable coastline 😂 I'm sure if they would have a higher chance of succeeding if they felt less entitled and opted for smaller and more inland territory. Even then, they're delusional.
No Taxation without (adequate) Representation!!!!!!!!
But they already have proportional representation in Congress and the state legislature. They actually want more representation then they should have proportionally which is an anti-democratic movement. This is just a power grab for conservatives.
@@TheFalseShepphard what does that mean? Their representative officials are bad? That means vote in better candidates, not create a new state
@@hughjass1724 Their 38 repersinstives in calif and all of Northern calif has 7 so you do the math!!
I live in Cleveland, OH. Ohio is terribly gerrymandered with 26 of 33 seats in the Ohio senate being held by Republicans, and 67 of 99 House seats are held by Republicans.
Over 70% of these seats are held by Republicans, but Ohio is nowhere near a 70% Republican state. Trump won Ohio in 2020 by 8%.
I have several of the same complaints as the people who want to create the state of Jefferson do. Columbus does not represent me or my area's interests.
Should Cuyahoga County, which has 1.3 million people, be able to form our own state?
"No taxation without representation" sounds crazy to this journalist... Can she even call herself American?
Don't forget us Southern Oregonians!
If Puerto Rico and Washington DC become states, than southern Oregon members Northern California have the right to breakaway me become a state.
@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 Per the US Constitution, they do not have the right.
@@fishbone3333 Screw the US Constitution; the federal government is not going to exist in a few more years anyway, thereby rendering all that garbage null and void. You people act like this country is somehow an exception to history and is going to last forever, but it's not.
Yep! Even though I live bend I am only less than a hour away from Jefferson
Even though I'm live in Bay Area, I hope that California split up. It's unfair for California's rural and farmers to be subjected to the atrocities of the Urban's policy and laws.
Well I live near Sacramento, and I'm GLAD us Democrats will not allow the State of Jefferson to happen!
@@kbanghart of course not! The left LOVES centralized power.
@@kbanghart Of course. The Dems want to silence those who oppose them and do it for power.
@@Alastasius yes. And hopefully this November we will throw more Trump supporters out of power.
@@kbanghart What a troll. Do you have a job or something?
Rather than flee to Idaho or Texas I'm planning to take my education, skill set, and retirement income back to California and join the battle. Jefferson is long overdue.
Yes please do help let this happen the ppl of Jefferson need a voice they need representation
😁🙏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I say just prepare in Idaho and than when you want to buy a permanent home, come back to Jefferson to fight for statehood!! That’s what I am doing
I hope they suceed.keeo on keeping on.
With the D.C statehood being declined due to balance of power, perhaps this could be the compromise
Yep. And let Texas go.
@Menacing Ship The Constitution says states cannot be created from other states. (Article IV).
Even if California AGREED to allow for the creation of Jefferson, any state in the union could challenge it and take it to the SCOTUS. Jefferson could only exist with a change in the Constitution or outright SCOTUS corruption.
Article IV:
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
@Menacing Ship It can still have representation without being a state
@@fishbone3333 west virginia violates this, west virginia is NOT apart of virginia
this clause means about as much as the eighteenth amendment
@@sircoloniser5454 When W. Virginia was created, Virginia had seceded, so the circumstances were unique. The creation of W. VA was a clear violation of Article IV. As I said in my previous comment, it require a SCOTUS to completely ignore that constitutional provision for it to happen. Fast forward 150 years, there is no way something like this is going to be allowed to happen. There are way too many small, rural states already, which is the primary reason why the Senate is broken.
As a Californian , we should do our best to make it a better place . If it's true that it is not possible to separate then we should take advantage of the connections we have on the inside . As for the communities we should learn to be literate in Finances and law . We would move mountains when channeling our energy to create physical wealth such as clean water and work with nature to create more places that need water , more gardens not lawns , give land back to the natives , learn from the natives, remodel old buildings to place the homeless. No more complaining . No more division . Only solutions ! Enough with this Republican this and Democrat do that . We all have something in common , that California is in a hole , do we want to to dig it deeper with the fighting ? Or do we want to organize and crawl out of it ?
Yes, this is long over due. California has too many electoral votes. It should be cut up redistricting, play the demonrat party. Jerry mandering. Love to a Californian that talks like this.
Keep fighting.
Government doesn't represent city dwellers either. They represent the corporations.
Mendocino County supports The State of Jefferson!
Credit to the excellent reporter here. WIll try and check out more of her work. An actual journalist, wow.
I hope they succeed
Cancel out CA's lib judges!
I'm from Los Angeles and I agree with them.
yes spepratinei to jeefferson.
California should be split into 3 and they add DC as a state. 4 new states
AMEN!!!!
They should divide the the state of California
i live here it has so much support
Seppo Luddities
It’s a Kentucky
If i ever became a billionaire i would help so many people keeping their small businesses going …..a hospital for our people our farming will be farming again with real vegetables no crap in them i hope this will pass oregon idaho and northern ca
Baird is right. They're not poor. They've been impoverished by the state's environmentalist policies enacted by people that see themselves as noble stewards of nature yet live lives entirely separate from nature and reality. California gets it's water from Mount Shasta. Separate mount Shasta from the state of California and California would be a debtor state to the state of Jefferson. It'd take a small army to cut the water supply off from Mount Shasta to lower California and Jefferson could effectively have their demands met.
State succession is fascinating. Especially with the larger States. Can a State as large and diverse as California really fulfill the needs of it’s people? It’s possibly a microcosm of if the Federal government was really the only legislative government and State governments were more so “local councils” in affect. I’ve moved around a lot so the argument if you don’t like it, move to another State is not a big deal for me. But some folks have real roots somewhere, they love where they’re at. They would rather fight to make it more the home they want.
Northern California just needs to figure out WHERE to draw the line!! SECESSION DAMNIT! LGBFJB!
Jimmy Drake for California Governor local man, husband, brother, father, union steward, and constitutionalist. A small town man with small business at heart. I will continue to fight evil and fight for the people to bring back justice to the people. Please spread the word and share.
No thanks, I'll vote for newsom
Are u on Recall ballot?
Gods speed
@@kbanghart why
Im just curious?
@@kellydillon9513 because I like him better than these other candidates
Does anyone know what the recent status is of this movement? Did it just drop off the radar? We were all looking at this with hope.
In effect, the state of California must give permission for the counties to officially secede from the union. It is the only federally legal way to form a new state that is comprised of an already established state.
Until this happens, their last methods of secession would have to happen a la West Virginia, California declaring secession from the Union in which the State of Jefferson would then be allowed to petition for Statehood to the Union.
@@tawnyasteele2274 Happy to hear from you Thanks! Pretty excited about that prospect. Really hope to see this process gain more steam! Nothing is better than to see people collectively take control of their own future from a societal perspective.
@@seasonfilms9375 as a person from Chicago I 100% support this and I really hope it happens the ppl of Jefferson need representation if Kentucky was allowed to separate from Virginia then Jefferson should be able to separate from California there 2 different ppl hopefully this picks up steam this must happen
it's never going to happen lol.
@@Landad_ Yes I know. They want to secede from Cali, however Cali essentially has to give them permission. Until Cali does this, the State of Jefferson's only means of seceding from California lies upon California choosing to secede from the USA; as they would no longer be beholden to federal or state law the State of Jefferson would then be able to appeal directly to U.S. for statehood.
This is essentially my previous comment just reworded and with extra nuance.
He isn’t wrong. “What is the government going to do today?” Is the exact question we all have…
Think about the gun opportunities in New California
I'd move there for sure.
There are already gun opportunities
People who DON'T want it can LEAVE! LGBFJB!
A Patriot State of NEW CALIFORNIA? GITERDONE! LGBFJB!
I’m a Californian from the Valley. At first like the video host I thought this idea was stupid. But what he says actually makes sense. So i am neutral on this movement, but leaning closer to the State of Jefferson Session side.
It''s a non starter. The state of California will not permit it, nor will Congress.
My opinion has changed. It is stupid and no way this “state of Jefferson” can happen. They just gotta learn to live with it
@@ggCA07 agreed
@@ggCA07 wait, how is it stupid?
@@BlueTyphoon2017 you really think a random state can just form and sustain itself between California and Oregon? Not possible bro. Plus, like someone said, the state and Congress won’t allow it
Kind of arrogant reporter, but I think they make a lot of sense. Why not? Let them split off and maybe give DC statehood at the same time. Everyone would be happy.
True giving DC and Jefferson statehood means that the historical trend of adding 1 democrat state and 1 Republican state will continue great idea
LONG LIVE JEFFERSON FROM NORTH CAROLINA!!!!
Not going to happen
@@kbanghart it can lol 😂 if west Virginia and Kentucky can split and become there own state so can Jefferson stay mad
@@Steve-zc9ht nah, not bad bro, I love your efforts though
Same here man!!!!
@@dinosaurcj God bless Joe Biden
Yes XX Here in Stanislaus County and WE support this Strongly. But now our movement is with Red White & blueprint. Look it up on here YT
idk .
#1. I think you guys are looking at this as people with already strong opinions who are heavily involved in politics/following politics etc, but the vast majority of regular people are not like that, alot of people dont live & breath politics& that makes their views & understanding of things more malleable& able to be altered when encountering solid arguemnts they cant refute, like most people may have a deeper level grasp on a few core views that they care about, if even that, but if you asked then to argue for a certain policy or position alot of people on many things would only have a more surface level grasp & wouldn't necessarily be able to effectively address solid counter arguements, alot of people are just more undecided or just don't have enough of a nuanced understanding of a topic to fully defend a certain view so hearing a debate &depending who is more convincing in it could really make someone question or shift their position on it...not necessarily for like general overarching poltical tendencies but for the specifics of differnt positions & if enough of these are questioned it eventually shift someone over to left or right
&
#2. also, it's not like ONE single debate is going to change someone's mind, but I think being exposed to certain arguements& counter arguements over the course of a number or debates can start to lead to a more moderation of ingrained views & over time(it could be relatively short for some or longer for others) actually shift someone's opinion completely.
so I don't really think this is true. I think online the right dominated in making it APPEAR like they have the winning arguements by debating young college kids who mostly don't articulate good arguements to support their opinions or even know how to defend them in a debate, but if the left could get better at using these kind of tactics & debating & such It would really even the online rhetoric in a way that I think could be really helpful.
I even went through a period of total question everything I believed after a kind of right-wing TH-cam pipeline but after like a year of feeling politically homeless & really working through a nuanced reasoning for my positions, & definitely encountering the left wing TH-cam sphere was helpful in balancing the right wing views that were overwhelming the feeds initially& bringing me back to reality a bit, I can more confidently understand how all those ben shapiro & crowder & so on arguements don't work & are hypocritical& so forth& can call my self a left/independent person & argue for my positions without questioning everything & wondering "who" was right in these debates & policies
to be fair if they become a state DC have to be as well. IM not a liberal but I want to keep it fair
FREEDOM FOR JEFFERSON!
I'm no genius, but to me it seems that the guy they interviewed about Jefferson that was against it was drunk.
Right - you are no genius. He doesn't sound "drunk" at all. Watch again, Skippy.
Unfortunately the Limousine Liberal Californians would take advantage of the better taxes, housing market, wide open spaces and move there upon retirement and vote for the same principles like thy do in NV and the rest of the west that made them leave. If you need a good example look at the housing market in Lake Tahoe and notice the price difference across each state line. Nevada side is more in demand by Bay Area retirees.
I say fight back, why leave to Idaho if those same liberals move up there for better taxes housing market and wide open spaces??
These poor counties cannot afford to leave California. It is economically impossible.
CA made it that way. They have long taken the resources of NorCal without ever giving back to the counties.
And who do you think did that lol the government of California
This man's anti-environmental attitude is dangerous.
Bay Area elites think they can tell us what we can do with our own Land
@@user-xg8pz1jb6r us Californians CAN tell you what to do with your own land.
Plen122 We’ll use our 2nd amendment if you try you commie!
@Jeff Goodman "ndangeous"
@@kbanghart it's there land so no you can't
Per the Constitution: " New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."
"Jefferson" is a non-starter. If the people there don't like it, then they should try harder to win elections and to help people understand why their policy positions are superior to the policy positions of those they oppose. FFS, I don't see the people of Austin, TX wanting to become their own state (which BTW, would be a state twice the population of Jefferson).
When it comes to these silly separatist movements, it's always white rural people who are upset that they don't get to control everything. Call the wahmbulance.
Your gonna regret saying that when you see the black population and Hispanic population vote red in 2024 because of the white liberals extremism on lgbtq and taxes
WARNING! about 1:25 seconds in there is a commercial with Stacy Abrams. I almost vomited my hot pocket.
LMFAO 🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆 Jefferson State WHAT A FKIN JOKE..,. IT'S NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, KEEP ON DREAMING.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The only illegal is those who stand
on land that was stolen from their
own ancestors those coming back
N or S this is their land but since
God said we can share maybe you
should apply for a passport which
I doubt you deserve placing a flag
where there is already a flag so
disrespectful !
we stole it from mexico moron.
@@MovieGuy666 moron you don't
know nothing about history that's why your movies lie alot? Of course
it was stolen from Mexico and before? and both times my side of
indian was present in fact all of
Mexico and South America we're
still Indian look at our brown skin
our black hair and they want to
put a wall ? This is my ancestors
land but because I believe in God
of course it's really God's he gave
to Indian first then all the rest of
us blondie or brown and of course
Indian don't deserve a wall in their
own ancestor land total abuse,shame we living still those
times Why God is unleashing mother
nature study bible then you will really
get smart ,me too . 😇
@@almaescobar2371
Mexicans don't get to consider themselves Indians fighting colonialism, because Mexicans are descended from Spain's native allies that aided them against the Aztecs. There is a reason both the Mayans and Apaches have always hated you. You submitted to Hispanicism long ago and that is all you will ever be, Hispanics. It doesn't matter how many Aztec symbols you steal. And it is funny how you pretend being dark is because of Indian admixture, pretending Spaniards aren't themselves half-Moorish Southern Europeans.
Southern California…central california(s.f and sactown)…anything above sac town…TRUE NORTH…north state🙏🏽I’m born in socal…nowhere compares…to the beautiful true north of California…sf isn’t Northern California 😂
I wonder what the younger people think about this, they only interviewed the older population on the subject.
Us younger people think that you are nuts
It's only in recent decades that youth have been magically imbued with special insight. In centuries past society understood how fickle and foolish are young minds.
@Table-Country pinxing THRYM Firearms 27 I'm speaking for a lot of people
@yourmomsboyfrend lol how are us Californians infringing on your rights?
@yourmomsboyfrend Yes I like meters because then we don't have people stealing tons of water. And I have no problem with most of the gun laws. Again, if you like less restrictive gun laws, there are definitely other states where you would be happier.
More power to them. Long live the state of Jefferson.
The state of Jefferson isn't going to happen
@Normie meme I just checked. Nothing going up in flames around here.
@today is not yesterday where?
@@andrew...9085 yes
@Normie meme
It’s true though. It won’t happen for the next 100 years, unless D.C/Puerto Rico (or both) are made into states and a red congress tries to even the balance by making Jefferson, which Trump won in super majorities in 2016.
I live on SJ....I'm moving up to Jefferson. Because the state of Jefferson represents the way I want to live....the local government around here doesn't represent me any more. I think after covid all this will change....people want to leave the bayarea in droves. All I ask is the other flat landers don't come too and bring their stupid politics that I'm trying to escape from.
I'm from Los Angeles and feel the same way.
Send me a postcard from the fantasy state of Jefferson and tell me how that works out for you! 🙂
I feel your pain, I live in southern New Jersey. The southern HALF of our state has a fraction of the population in the north. We are blue-collar, farmers, hunters, fishermen, patriotic. The north is urban, entitled, elite, pro-sanctuary, leftist. We have no voice, NJ always goes blue.
Good, I'm in California so I vote blue also
Maryland is very similar, a few neighborhoods outside of DC as well as Baltimore turn an entire state filled with miles of rural land and hard working farmers into an eternal blue state.
@@DaneLMusic thank goodness
@@DaneLMusic oh and BTW, land doesn't vote.
@@kbanghart you are a very ignorant person
Please do
California, New York, and Texas should be split into at least 3 states each.
Lol don't forget chicago and illinois let cook County separate from Illinois cook County is the second most populated County with over 6 million ppl and controls way to much of the state of Illinois and I'm from Chicago
Nah, just New York and California.
Long live 51st state
jefferson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Living in Sonoma County, i would move ASAP to the State of Jefferson!
State of Jefferson
No, vote blue
@@kbanghart Stooge
@@peace__777 simp
@@kbanghart NPC
@@basedpuertorican4943 TDS
Ah, the good ol,tea party!!! This makes sense now, or rather it MAKES NO SENSE,!.,👎👎👎👎👎
I really want this, so i can own land without California's crazy taxes.
People in S. Oregon want to be a part of the new state of Jefferson also. Many already fly the flag.
That's great that they fly the flag but you need more than a flag to become a state.
@Marshall Kinnaird Yes, and The state of Jefferson doesn't have one
@Table-Country pinxing THRYM Firearms 27 many reasons. Mainly, the leadership is off the rails. Also, I don't believe in their far-right political ideology.
@Table-Country pinxing THRYM Firearms 27 lol there are hardly any liberal supporters of this. Less than 5%, more likely 1 to 2%. of course, if you have any data to back up this claim, I would love to see it. I have no data other than what I see on social media.
@yourmomsboyfrend Where did I say I would like control over someone else's life? I hear this a lot, yet no defense.
Hail the state of Jefferson! Down with California!
What about central California?
The problem with some of the people interviewed clearly support Trump and MAGA! Anyone who supports the radical right are not patriotic Americans! Just the opposite! Oh, and I was born and raised in northern California. Still live here.
ugh.
they're gonna breakway and soon turn into the very same monsters they seceded from
That’s Oregon
0% chase this is going to happen
So cyberpunk don’t ring no bells
I noticed there are several Democratic counties that are part of this movement (I live in one of them). Why would they support this movement since Jefferson would be a Republican state?
It’s more about the economic situation and how California government just completely ignores the states above Sacramento and the Bay Area!!
I live by sacramento can we join yall too??
Long Live SOJ
It's a bit delusional of these people to believe that both Oregon and California would be willing to give up thousands of miles of valuable coastline 😂 I'm sure if they would have a higher chance of succeeding if they felt less entitled and opted for smaller and more inland territory. Even then, they're delusional.