He was a beast. Great technical skills, and physical presence. The problem was he had to compete against the likes of the rock and stone cold. He didn't have the bigger than life personality needed.
Ken Shamrock was Awesome! He was the "Real Deal." I wanted Shamrock to stay in the WWF much longer than he did. He could of had a Great rivalry with Kurt Angle if he had stayed with the company. Angle made his debut just a month or so after Shamrock left. Imagine Ken Shamrock vs. Kurt Angle in a Ankle Lock Submission Match, that could have been a CLASSIC! Shamrock should have been at least a 2 Time Intercontinental Champion, and YES I agree that he should have been a World Champion in the WWF as well. I hope someday they induct Ken Shamrock in the WWE Hall Of Fame.
He was ahead of his time there was just so many main eventers in that period that made it difficult for him to be a world champ he would have likely excelled in the Ruthless aggression era had he came along later.
If Shamrock stayed around for 2000 he could of had great matches with the likes of Chris Benoit,Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero. I think he would of benifited on Smackdown in 02-03 with the Smackdown 6. I think him and Benoit would of made a good tag team either then or in 2000. The Crippler and the world's dangerous man with Shane McMahon as their manager. He could of been the guy to run over Stone Cold rather than Rikishi, it would of being more believable. I just think he left just at the wrong time unfortunately.
While it was a good video, you didn't really delve into "What went wrong". You could have touched on his unreliability on the road and showing up to shows (Jim Ross mentioned this has a issue with Shamrock), his mic skills holding him back during the Attitude Era where personalities prevailed (DX, Rock,Austin), and heat with people like Triple H talking crap about him to management as to why he wasn't placed higher on the card and why he never returned. As stated by other commenters, had he stayed or returned during the Ruthless Aggression era, he wouldve been a better fit and been pushed more prominently.
Ken Shamrock if only he would've debuted in 2002. I believe he would've held many world titles. Their were too main big characters and too many main eventers. He also couldn't promo which at the time was important if you wanted to become a huge player. He was great in ring but wasn't like Rock, Mankind, Undertaker, Stone Cold and Michaels in terms of character. Imagine him against Lesnar at Wrestlemania 20.
I think Ken Shamrock is one of those BIG what ifs of that era. He's unique because it wasn't like he was primed to be champ and he screwed it up by personal troubles....he just walked away. I wonder how he and Brock would have worked for the title.
He was used wrong. For instance, he's not exactly known as a great promo, so why not maybe give him a good manager? They also overrelied on his UFC experience. He was one-dimensional. He was presented as a guy who used to fight in cages, that's all. It's a shame bc he was a beast at MMA and a very underrated wrestler to me. Also, Vader was really strong. In a match that should look like a shoot, he could hurt 99.7% of men by accident.
Shamrock was over big time in 97/98 especially with his KOTR win. After his heel IC title run in 99, he was wasted and buried. According to JR, Shamrock would miss shows and had poor discipline. And Ken himself said that he missed his family and hated being on the road.
When he turned face again in 99 ot looked like he was about to feud with Vince and was super over. Then he kept getting sneak attacked by Blackman and fell down the card.
I agree Ken should have won a world title , but as others have said , the main event was stacked. But he did still have a pretty decent run. He is also the first ever TNA NWA champ .
He had true legitimacy before legitimacy was really valued in WWE. He was a bonified fighter and not an entertainer which is why they forced him to do silly gimmicks, to try and break his shell and make him an entertainer. If he had stuck through it and maybe offered ideas as what to do with his character and pushed through he could have won the big gold belt in 01-05 and had rivalries with the likes of Triple H Chris Benoit or even Goldberg. The fact is though I don't believe Shamrock was a big draw. Like I said before, it was before legitimacy was truly valued in WWE.
Man just watching that montage at the beginning of the video, what a missed opportunity. Maybe not in the attitude era but in the ruthless aggression era he could’ve definitely become WWE champion.
Shamrock didn’t have the mic skills or the kind of gimmick fans would have gotten behind in the 90’s. Plus he wasn’t very tall. McMahon never pushed smaller guys to the top and they usually ended up stuck in commentary no matter how big they were in their past promotions. Think Taz and Jerry Lawler. Both huge before they signed with McMahon. A couple of matches with McMahon seeing how small they were compared to their opponents was usually the end of their in ring performances for Vince. Shamrock had the actual real rep which is the only thing that kept him in the mid card. He would have gone much further with WCW and would have surely been on top of ECW. Why he chose the WWF in the late 90’s baffles me. Sure they were on top but they were pretty wanky. I mean the peoples elbow? Seriously? That was a move nobody got up from?
It was exciting times when he came.. loved how crazy he would get on his opponents in the ring.. but we all know UFC was his thing. and it was very exciting i must say.. before it got all washed up. I don't even watch it anymore.. i moved to arm wrestling! it's coming back bigger than ever!
This was the problem he was too over because of the rep. Vinnie Mac had 4 visions The Rock , Triple H, Stone cold Steve Austin and the Undertaker. Ken Shamrock was to help the brand and the Rock no trolling here from me but that was the case
I don't think it went wrong really? He was during an era with the biggest talent pool in history and 6-7 all time greats in the main events. He was an upper midcarder, was very over and had flirtations with and some good matches in the main event scene. He had a whole RAW dedicated to him saving Steph, a ppv title match v hbk, a feud with ministry Taker. A fantastic 6 months feud with The Rock and a couple of Raw main events with Austin. He had a good career but he was never going to be THE guy during that era. He dropped down the card during his Steve Blackman feud and lost to many matches although never clean on the way to his departure.
There were 2 problems with putting the belt on him. 1) The roster was sooo stacked when he was there. Remember Brett, Shawn, the Rock, SC, HHH, etc. 2) He was always wanted to go back to fighting you don't invest money in what's gonna go away soon.
He is a legend with high pride, real badass fighter, legit wrestler fighter and champion .... Just didnt fit with wwf horny trend direction I wish to c him as a manager in AEW Den lion aew branch its the dream team
I just don't like him as a wrestler. He is really unoriginal... Kinda like he was trying to emulate Stone Cold and The Rock at the same time. He just didn't have any charisma or originality.
Shame, great man, great body, great athletic terms of fighting. Average wrestler, bad on mic bad promo. BUT, he deserved a push. He was intense at a time that ment something. I won't flick my cunny over how OVER this guy was I just....I ...I just...sigh miss seeming him as a option on my ORIGINAL XBOX WWE GAME!!! (You pick the name) I pray he does well...or he will kill me..and if he he calls in Steve..well..we are all dead. (Black men...don't hurt me please)
Ken Shamrock should have been WWF Champion!
Yesss!!! Baddest man on the planet!
He was a beast. Great technical skills, and physical presence. The problem was he had to compete against the likes of the rock and stone cold. He didn't have the bigger than life personality needed.
@@ryanarment5393 right! I loved when he would go on rampages. Legitimately scary! He was the beast before Lesnar
Nah, midcard was perfect for him.
multiple times.
Ken Shamrock's WWF run did help popularize MMA.
I think Ken had a great run with many memorable moments and matches. Main event was just stacked with GOATs
He was in main events. He just left too early.
Ken Shamrock was Awesome! He was the "Real Deal." I wanted Shamrock to stay in the WWF much longer than he did. He could of had a Great rivalry with Kurt Angle if he had stayed with the company. Angle made his debut just a month or so after Shamrock left. Imagine Ken Shamrock vs. Kurt Angle in a Ankle Lock Submission Match, that could have been a CLASSIC! Shamrock should have been at least a 2 Time Intercontinental Champion, and YES I agree that he should have been a World Champion in the WWF as well. I hope someday they induct Ken Shamrock in the WWE Hall Of Fame.
He was ahead of his time there was just so many main eventers in that period that made it difficult for him to be a world champ he would have likely excelled in the Ruthless aggression era had he came along later.
Agreed. If he had walked in to the front door 3 years later, he'd be a hall of famer who won multiple hw/universal titles.
Shamrock could have been World Champ if he had a man like Paul Heyman backing him.
Ken Shamrock definitely should have been WWF Champion or at the very least form an alliance with Steve Blackman & Dan Severn
He had a great run in 98 and a good run with the IC belt. Memorable matches and he had a style that made him stand out.
He was recently in Impact and was inducted into their hall of fame a year ago.
If Shamrock stayed around for 2000 he could of had great matches with the likes of Chris Benoit,Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero. I think he would of benifited on Smackdown in 02-03 with the Smackdown 6. I think him and Benoit would of made a good tag team either then or in 2000. The Crippler and the world's dangerous man with Shane McMahon as their manager. He could of been the guy to run over Stone Cold rather than Rikishi, it would of being more believable. I just think he left just at the wrong time unfortunately.
Yes, he would HAVE.
Thinking about him doing submission shoot style fighting with all of them would have been incredible.
While it was a good video, you didn't really delve into "What went wrong". You could have touched on his unreliability on the road and showing up to shows (Jim Ross mentioned this has a issue with Shamrock), his mic skills holding him back during the Attitude Era where personalities prevailed (DX, Rock,Austin), and heat with people like Triple H talking crap about him to management as to why he wasn't placed higher on the card and why he never returned. As stated by other commenters, had he stayed or returned during the Ruthless Aggression era, he wouldve been a better fit and been pushed more prominently.
I remember him and Blackmon matches. Iconic! Kendo Stick anyone? 🥋🥢♿
Ken Shamrock if only he would've debuted in 2002. I believe he would've held many world titles. Their were too main big characters and too many main eventers. He also couldn't promo which at the time was important if you wanted to become a huge player. He was great in ring but wasn't like Rock, Mankind, Undertaker, Stone Cold and Michaels in terms of character. Imagine him against Lesnar at Wrestlemania 20.
Remember when HHH said he didn't want Ken to when the IC title and the front office said go tell Ken that; and then he didn't.
I think Ken Shamrock is one of those BIG what ifs of that era. He's unique because it wasn't like he was primed to be champ and he screwed it up by personal troubles....he just walked away. I wonder how he and Brock would have worked for the title.
Awesome video mayne.
I loved using shamrock in WrestleMania 2000.
He was used wrong. For instance, he's not exactly known as a great promo, so why not maybe give him a good manager? They also overrelied on his UFC experience. He was one-dimensional. He was presented as a guy who used to fight in cages, that's all. It's a shame bc he was a beast at MMA and a very underrated wrestler to me. Also, Vader was really strong. In a match that should look like a shoot, he could hurt 99.7% of men by accident.
He should've returned to WWE after his first fight with Tito Ortiz. It was the perfect time for Ken Shamrock to hang up the gloves.
Shamrock was over big time in 97/98 especially with his KOTR win. After his heel IC title run in 99, he was wasted and buried. According to JR, Shamrock would miss shows and had poor discipline. And Ken himself said that he missed his family and hated being on the road.
When he turned face again in 99 ot looked like he was about to feud with Vince and was super over. Then he kept getting sneak attacked by Blackman and fell down the card.
They wanted him to take part in an incestuous storyline. Shamrock wanted no part of it and asked for his release.
He was legitimately scary! Crazy! Baddest man on the planet!
Man, I love those lion's den matchs
Do Steve Blackman next please. And also great video dude
Blackman was awesome. They lied to him and told him kicking was okay until 45 min before match 1 of brawl-for-all, pure bs.
I agree Ken should have won a world title , but as others have said , the main event was stacked. But he did still have a pretty decent run. He is also the first ever TNA NWA champ .
They should have let Bret drop the belt to him instead of Shawn
Liked the way he put on that angle lock
I can't find that dungeon match between ken shamrock and Owen hart. Any idea how I can find it?
It's on the WWE Network
I actually feel bad for Shamrock after watching this.
I loved his theme song
Same suited him and his intense enraged character so well
I’m definitely subscribing.
He had true legitimacy before legitimacy was really valued in WWE. He was a bonified fighter and not an entertainer which is why they forced him to do silly gimmicks, to try and break his shell and make him an entertainer. If he had stuck through it and maybe offered ideas as what to do with his character and pushed through he could have won the big gold belt in 01-05 and had rivalries with the likes of Triple H Chris Benoit or even Goldberg. The fact is though I don't believe Shamrock was a big draw. Like I said before, it was before legitimacy was truly valued in WWE.
Man just watching that montage at the beginning of the video, what a missed opportunity. Maybe not in the attitude era but in the ruthless aggression era he could’ve definitely become WWE champion.
why not attitude
@@jakelang806 Wrong place wrong time. He would’ve fit better with the ruthless aggression era.
Shoulda booked him in a Wrestlemania "phone match" with Jerry Sags. First one to knock his opponent cold with an old dial phone WINS!
yo that track in the intro was dope!!!
my brother saw that fight Ken Shamrock and the late Owen Hart, if i could only share the pics here. my brother said it was the most iconic fight
Shamrock didn’t have the mic skills or the kind of gimmick fans would have gotten behind in the 90’s. Plus he wasn’t very tall. McMahon never pushed smaller guys to the top and they usually ended up stuck in commentary no matter how big they were in their past promotions. Think Taz and Jerry Lawler. Both huge before they signed with McMahon. A couple of matches with McMahon seeing how small they were compared to their opponents was usually the end of their in ring performances for Vince. Shamrock had the actual real rep which is the only thing that kept him in the mid card. He would have gone much further with WCW and would have surely been on top of ECW. Why he chose the WWF in the late 90’s baffles me. Sure they were on top but they were pretty wanky. I mean the peoples elbow? Seriously? That was a move nobody got up from?
The money. He's arguably one of the most influential MMA fighter of all time in his era but mma didn't pay and WWF did
ken wasnt small look at his physique
It's not the people's elbow you don't get up from. It's the Rock Bottom, followed by the elbow.
Shamrock was a Liability in the WWF
It was exciting times when he came.. loved how crazy he would get on his opponents in the ring.. but we all know UFC was his thing. and it was very exciting i must say.. before it got all washed up. I don't even watch it anymore.. i moved to arm wrestling! it's coming back bigger than ever!
He was more in the case of right place at the wrong time… if he stayed just a little while longer we would have had Brock vs Shamrock.
This was the problem he was too over because of the rep. Vinnie Mac had 4 visions The Rock , Triple H, Stone cold Steve Austin and the Undertaker. Ken Shamrock was to help the brand and the Rock no trolling here from me but that was the case
I don't really count Taker, he was like Foley where he was utilized more to help put the other 3 over.
@@ChrisM07 Actually good point because as said by many wrestlers he was the Lockerroom leader
He was my favorite I loved his fearless attitude he's another talent I feel like wwe fumbled like so many others
I don't think it went wrong really? He was during an era with the biggest talent pool in history and 6-7 all time greats in the main events. He was an upper midcarder, was very over and had flirtations with and some good matches in the main event scene. He had a whole RAW dedicated to him saving Steph, a ppv title match v hbk, a feud with ministry Taker. A fantastic 6 months feud with The Rock and a couple of Raw main events with Austin. He had a good career but he was never going to be THE guy during that era. He dropped down the card during his Steve Blackman feud and lost to many matches although never clean on the way to his departure.
What went wrong with shamrock? 🤔 Triple H case solved!!!!
Let the Good times roll.
In my opinion putting the WWF championship belt of HHH is what ruined the company.
They should of had him rival with kane after king of the ring instead of what actually happened afterwards.
I think he did really well in the WWF when I was 10 I actually thought that he was the worlds most dangerous man
2022 Ken Shamrock WWE Hall of Fame
For me the biggest injustice is ken not in the wwf or wwe hall of fame
Great biography of his career. But you never really explained why it all went wrong and why the company doesn’t have anything to do with him.
Wait. Vince trying to ruin someone’s character. That’s hard to believe.
There were 2 problems with putting the belt on him. 1) The roster was sooo stacked when he was there. Remember Brett, Shawn, the Rock, SC, HHH, etc. 2) He was always wanted to go back to fighting you don't invest money in what's gonna go away soon.
Also, called woman Ryan? Really? I'm taking hard pass. Rianne, Rheonne, fine but not Ryan or Chris or Jason on...
It's kind of like having a brother named Jennifer. Lol
I was wondering the same like WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
What went wrong ?
He is a legend with high pride, real badass fighter, legit wrestler fighter and champion .... Just didnt fit with wwf horny trend direction
I wish to c him as a manager in AEW
Den lion aew branch its the dream team
It’s so simple WWE got rid of shamrock because he couldn’t cut a promo. The guy could barely memorize his our name. 🥴 👈
He was another Underrated by vince
Shamrock > Lesnar
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You should react to zombies or descendants
So, what went wrong?
there's crony inside wwe, and they really screwed him up.
Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen SHAAAAAMROCK
I just don't like him as a wrestler. He is really unoriginal... Kinda like he was trying to emulate Stone Cold and The Rock at the same time. He just didn't have any charisma or originality.
Here's what wnet wrong - Shamrock had no charisma/mic skills
Shame, great man, great body, great athletic terms of fighting. Average wrestler, bad on mic bad promo. BUT, he deserved a push. He was intense at a time that ment something. I won't flick my cunny over how OVER this guy was I just....I ...I just...sigh miss seeming him as a option on my ORIGINAL XBOX WWE GAME!!! (You pick the name)
I pray he does well...or he will kill me..and if he he calls in Steve..well..we are all dead. (Black men...don't hurt me please)
Shamrock aged fast and horribly. Steroids are a bummer.
Sad thing is Owen dropped Steve on his head on purpose
It was not enough money
Bruh he should’ve stayed in wrestling he took so many Ls in mma. Royce knocking him out smh.
ocean?
YOU ALREADY KNOW AH DAS HOT
World champion?? Come on man lol he had zero charisma, awful mic skills. Yes he looked great but his character was so boring.
Jinder Mahal, Randy Orton, The Great Khali Says Hold My Beer 🍺🍺
@@gqsmoove87 randy orton???
Bad attitude
“At this point in time the wwe doesn’t acknowledge the ufc”
2 years later and they’re the same company 😂