Had been ThinkPad 14" user for past 15 + years, but my last one was EliteBook G8 835 5850U/16GB and the current on is EliteBook G10 7840U/32GB. EliteBooks are nice but not on par with ThinkPads when it comes to build and I really miss the Trackpoint. What will be my next ... price/performance/build will guide me, but definitely AMD, even Lunar Lake is not to my expectations. Bland - I like the looks of ThinkPads and EliteBooks, they are stylish, too. :))
It's definitely a nice machine, but I'd have to ask myself: why not the VivoBook S14? The price is similar, and this device doesn't seem to be superior to it in pretty much anything. Though I suspect inertia characteristic to corporations would make anyone on an HP contract just keep buying this, and they'd be pretty reasonably happy with it, which is nice. But for a consumer, or someone that has a budget for work equipment that includes a laptop purchase that suits their needs, I struggle to see why this over the S14 or the Lenovo offerings, given the price and not-new CPU.
That is a fair point, even tho I would argue that build-quality (if you care about it, is better with the HP than with the Vivobook) That said, you do have quite a few compelling options in this space and within the type of device. Lenovo's Yoga Pro 7 laptops usually perform quite well, even though the latest Yoga with Strixpoint offers nowhere near the battery life of the EliteBook. So just having a newer generation CPU, doesnt automatically mean it will better in all aspects!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Oh yes, I don't mean to say this isn't a good CPU, but from a corporate buyer perspective, I think "what year/generation is it from?" might hold much greater weight than perhaps it should, much like how MacBooks are shopped by model year instead of actual processor specs- something which has started to change with the M-series, I've noticed. I myself am rocking a humble 5980HX and its raw performance is, honestly, more than sufficient for the vast majority of applications- my FEMAP analysis tend to finish running significantly faster than the rest of the class, for example. My brother's 12700H is considerably stronger, for example, but I can often get 5 hours or so of light work done, 8 if I really push it and re-install Armory Create, while he barely gets 2. It's a compromise I'm happy with, and he is happy with, as he doesn't pack the laptop day-to-day, but travels with it instead. This is generally a knock against Intel's downright confusing lineup, they have, what, three distinct product lines with often overlapping performance envelopes? It's terrible, and one can barely keep track of things as the implementations differ so strongly between devices. I keep track of the tech world- heck, here I am commenting on notebookcheck reviews! And *I* find it hard to know what to expect from Intel just by reading the processor's name, when a couple of years ago I could guess Cinebench scores from model an wattage alone. Forgot to comment: the microphone quality seems hilariously bad on this HP. You move your head a few centimeters and it sounds like you are on the other side of the room. Webcam looked all-in-all decent, but the mic array seems horribly calibrated. Bizarre.
Very, very true. While we have great options when it comes to mobile CPUs from all the major players, its very hard to keep track of what is what and how all these different chips perform. Agreed on the mic, but i am also not too impressed by the camera, but it seems a much harder problem to solve, considering almost everything struggles with it.
Meteor lake?😊
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Had been ThinkPad 14" user for past 15 + years, but my last one was EliteBook G8 835 5850U/16GB and the current on is EliteBook G10 7840U/32GB. EliteBooks are nice but not on par with ThinkPads when it comes to build and I really miss the Trackpoint. What will be my next ... price/performance/build will guide me, but definitely AMD, even Lunar Lake is not to my expectations. Bland - I like the looks of ThinkPads and EliteBooks, they are stylish, too. :))
It's definitely a nice machine, but I'd have to ask myself: why not the VivoBook S14? The price is similar, and this device doesn't seem to be superior to it in pretty much anything.
Though I suspect inertia characteristic to corporations would make anyone on an HP contract just keep buying this, and they'd be pretty reasonably happy with it, which is nice. But for a consumer, or someone that has a budget for work equipment that includes a laptop purchase that suits their needs, I struggle to see why this over the S14 or the Lenovo offerings, given the price and not-new CPU.
That is a fair point, even tho I would argue that build-quality (if you care about it, is better with the HP than with the Vivobook)
That said, you do have quite a few compelling options in this space and within the type of device. Lenovo's Yoga Pro 7 laptops usually perform quite well, even though the latest Yoga with Strixpoint offers nowhere near the battery life of the EliteBook.
So just having a newer generation CPU, doesnt automatically mean it will better in all aspects!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Oh yes, I don't mean to say this isn't a good CPU, but from a corporate buyer perspective, I think "what year/generation is it from?" might hold much greater weight than perhaps it should, much like how MacBooks are shopped by model year instead of actual processor specs- something which has started to change with the M-series, I've noticed.
I myself am rocking a humble 5980HX and its raw performance is, honestly, more than sufficient for the vast majority of applications- my FEMAP analysis tend to finish running significantly faster than the rest of the class, for example. My brother's 12700H is considerably stronger, for example, but I can often get 5 hours or so of light work done, 8 if I really push it and re-install Armory Create, while he barely gets 2. It's a compromise I'm happy with, and he is happy with, as he doesn't pack the laptop day-to-day, but travels with it instead.
This is generally a knock against Intel's downright confusing lineup, they have, what, three distinct product lines with often overlapping performance envelopes? It's terrible, and one can barely keep track of things as the implementations differ so strongly between devices.
I keep track of the tech world- heck, here I am commenting on notebookcheck reviews! And *I* find it hard to know what to expect from Intel just by reading the processor's name, when a couple of years ago I could guess Cinebench scores from model an wattage alone.
Forgot to comment: the microphone quality seems hilariously bad on this HP. You move your head a few centimeters and it sounds like you are on the other side of the room. Webcam looked all-in-all decent, but the mic array seems horribly calibrated. Bizarre.
Very, very true. While we have great options when it comes to mobile CPUs from all the major players, its very hard to keep track of what is what and how all these different chips perform.
Agreed on the mic, but i am also not too impressed by the camera, but it seems a much harder problem to solve, considering almost everything struggles with it.
Oof... That camera... :-(
Yeah, its a shame.